[WISPA] 900 client and omni antennas

[Rick Harnish]

What are the 900 client antennas of choice as well as omni
directionals.  I would like a solution that can get 5-6 miles NLOS.  We don’t
have a lot of dense foliage that we have tried to penetrate up until now but
are looking for a solution for select cells.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

260-918-4340
VoIP

www.oibw.net

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RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPQ Opinions

[Rick Harnish]

Mike,

Jimmy P. has NO digestive tract?  I lived in the same house with him for 4
days when in Louisiana and I can swear that he has none. I think that is
where the term "CAMP SHAGNASTY" must have came from! ;)

Gotta love Jimmy though, he has a heart of gold!

Rick Harnish


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:31 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPQ Opinions

Are you sure that isn't Jim Patients Digestive Tract??   ;-)

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPQ Opinions

Better yet, use StarOS access points.  They work great with Tranzeos and 
will run like rice and beans through Mac's digestive tract.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Mac Dearman wrote:

> EVERY AP that we upgraded above 86r locks up every couple hours. 86r 
> is stable and has performed exceedingly well for months without a 
> single issue. If you downgrade to a lesser firmware - - - - be sure 
> that you are PHYSICALLY on site where the gear is!! It will loose its 
> config and go back to factory default AND it will have to be power 
> cycled! Please read this again carefully and understand !! :-) or 
> else!
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600 318.303.4227
> 318.303.4229
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Nash wrote:
>
>> Mac, what are you seeing?  Have you used 89? 88 had issues (firmware 
>> units
>> were shipped with), I've upgraded to 89.  Not had any issues, but 
>> only in
>> production for about a week.
>>
>> Mark Nash
>> Network Engineer
>> UnwiredOnline.Net
>> 350 Holly Street
>> Junction City, OR 97448
>> http://www.uwol.net
>> 541-998-
>> 541-998-5599 fax
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPQ Opinions
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> ***WARNING  WILL ROBINSON 
>>>
>>> You better steer clear of any updates on those Tranzeo APs over build
>>> 86r
>>>
>>> WARNING YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED :-)
>>>
>>> Mac Dearman
>>> Maximum Access, LLC.
>>> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
>>> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
>>> www.inetsouth.com
>>> www.mac-tel.us
>>> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
>>> Rayville, La.
>>> 318.728.8600
>>> 318.303.4227
>>> 318.303.4229
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Nash wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> I've been using them for about a month now for a couple of smaller
>>>> sectors.  Had stability problems with the AP's that I was using (YDI
>>>> AP-Plus w/Turbocell, operating as an 802.11b AP).  I then installed
>>>> Tranzeo AP's.  I had issues with them not reconnecting to the AP when
>>>> the AP was power-cycled.  Updated firmware on AP's & clients.  Been
>>>> running stable for about a week.  Now I have purchased another 
>>>> 10-pack.
>>>>
>>>> The AP's web interface really cleaned up & gave me client names on the
>>>> station list with the latest firmware.
>>>>
>>>> I can't give you long-term statistics, nor can I answer your huge
>>>> PPPoE question.
>>>>
>>>> Mark Nash
>>>> Network Engineer
>>>> UnwiredOnline.Net
>>>> 350 Holly Street
>>>> Junction City, OR 97448
>>>> http://www.uwol.net
>>>> 541-998-
>>>> 541-998-5599 fax
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>*From:* JohnnyO <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>*To:* wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 9:52 AM
>>>>*Subject:* [WISPA] Tranzeo CPQ Opinions
>>>>
>>>>We will be doing a large deployment of CPEs in the next 60-90days.
>>>>I would like to hear all of the negatives or issues people are
>>>>seeing with the Tranzeo CPQ line.

RE: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6

[Rick Harnish]

Mac, JohnnyO, Joe Laura or Joe Miller, can you make this meeting?

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] FCC Katrina Meeting / March 6

 Released:  02/17/2006.  FCC'S INDEPENDENT PANEL REVIEWING THE IMPACT OF 
HURRICANE KATRINA ON COMMUNICATIONS NETWORKS ANNOUNCES
NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, MARCH 6, 2006
AT THE MISSISSIPPI E-CENTER AT JACKSON STATE UNIVERSITY
 IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
(DA No.  06-371).  EB.
Contact:  Lisa M. Fowlkes at (202) 418-7452 or Jean Ann Collins at (202) 
418-2792.
News Media Contact: Janice Wise at (202) 418-8165 
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.doc>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.pdf>
<http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-371A1.txt>


Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate
813.963.5884
http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm

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[WISPA] New Board Instated and official call for open board position applicants

[Rick Harnish]

On Thursday, February 16, 2006, the Founding Board of WISPA officially
accepted the results of the recent Board election. The new Board begins
immediately and will consist of the following members.

John ScrivnerMount Vernon
Net
Matt LarsenInventive Media
Marlon ShaferOdessa
Office Equipment
Rick HarnishOnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless
George RogatoOregonFAST
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless

The Board would like to express thanks to previous board members, Bob
Moldashel, Gary Hoffman and Alex Huppenthal.

Officers for the coming year are:

John ScrivnerPresident
Matt LarsenVice President
George RogatoTreasurer
Rick HarnishSecretary

The Board also voted to create a Promotional/Marketing Committee in which
George Rogato was elected as the Chairman. The purpose of this committee will
be to promote and market WISPA and its membership throughout the industry.
Anyone interested in serving on this committee, please contact George at [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 

One Board position is still open.  Anyone interested please fill
out an application at http://election.wispa.org. 


 

According to the bylaws: 

 

3.6 Vacancies. If a vacancy occurs on the board of directors, the
Secretary will notify the membership via email or the legal means required by
these bylaws. The membership will have three (3) calendar weeks to submit
nominations to the Nominating Committee. Any nominees must submit to the
Secretary the properly completed application which will be open for review to
the general membership in the manner prescribed by the nominating committee.
Within one (1) week of the closing of nominations, the Secretary will make
available (via the WISPA website) all nominees application information. The
membership shall have 4 weeks time after all nomination applications are made
available to review candidate information prior to a vote. The vote shall be
conducted at either a special meeting of the membership called by the board of
directors, or as the board may determine, and by electronic means as authorized
by these bylaws. Any director elected to fill a vacancy shall hold office until
the next annual meeting of the board of directors, or until such
director’s successor is elected and qualifies.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

260-918-4340
VoIP

www.oibw.net

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RE: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

[Rick Harnish]

Shannon,

You can go to http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless and login
with your email and password to view the current membership of the
wireless@wispa.org listserv.  Let me know privately if you forgot your
password.

Currently the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list is private to all paid members.
We discuss things on that list that we do not discuss on the open
wireless@wispa.org list.  There are currently about 50 paid members of
WISPA.  We would like to double that number in 2006.  We have tried to
maintain an affordable membership fee so that we can attract more members.
New membership applications can be found at
http://signup.wispa.org/wispa-newacct.html.  

Thank you,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's
all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point
so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the
WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested
in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA
(Kentucky Association of ISP's) and several of the member
ISP's are also deploying wireless but I haven't heard any of
them mention WISPA. At our next monthly meeting, I plan
on getting their input to see if any of them are members. I'm
not a big fan of joining non-local organizations but WISPA
looks like a good group to be associated with so that's why
I'm giving it a look.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider

==
Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and
UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!

No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles

FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com
==


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo


I understand the problem.  Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help
us get some spectrum.  The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it
up!  Join TODAY!

KyWiFi LLC wrote:

>We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members
>of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local
>vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure.
>It does resemble the tower image used in the WISPA logo so
>maybe whoever designed the WISPA logo got it from the
>same or similar clip art gallery or CD?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
>KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
>http://www.KyWiFi.com
>http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
>Phone: 859.274.4033
>A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider
>
>==
>Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and
>UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!
>
>No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles
>
>FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com
>==
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
>
>
>Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no.  Has to be the whole wispa logo,
not just part
>of it.
>
>I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy.
>
>Marlon
>(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
>64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: JohnnyO
>  To: wireless@wispa.org
>  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:18 PM
>  Subject: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo
>
>
>  Are we all able to use the WISPA logo like this ?
>http://www.kywifi.com/images/vptower/CIMG5548.jpg
>
>  Also - came across this post on tower talk , figured we all may be able
to learn a
>little bit about house cleaning from this.
>
>  Who is Bob Smith ?
>
>  *Bob Smith Wrote*
>
>  HI All,
>
>  I'm a wireless network consultant in my 'other life' and thought you
>  all might get
>  a real charge out of seeing what some people call a 'commercial tower
install'
>
>  The tower in the

RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

[Rick Harnish]

I designed a saddle system with UHMW.  Want some?

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

What are you using to hold those radio circuit boards in place?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator


> Nah, that one is a mess (hurried job), here is the way they should look.
>
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482 Office
> 260-307-4000 Cell
> 260-918-4340 VoIP
> www.oibw.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
>
> Rick,
>
> Sweet! You did a heck of a clean job on that cabnet.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
>
>
>>I use Signamax fiber transceivers.  They run on 12vDC.  I still run AC up
>> the tower with 12 guage wire in EMT conduit to a box with a regulated 12v
>> power supply.  I have attached a photo of a recent box that has fiber
>> running down a 260' tower.  The fiber transceiver is on the left side.
>> There is also a Hirschman 4 port switch with a fiber port beside it.  We
>> wanted to try both and allow some redundancy.  I doubt if I put two in 
>> the
>> next application.  In this case we ran 12 strand hybrid fiber up the
>> tower.
>> It was over kill but we had enough extra left over from another job that
>> it
>> was convenient and cheap to use.  There is also a Corcom RF isolator
>> inline
>> on the power leads.  I designed this box to combat a recent installation
>> of
>> a 7000w FM radio transmitter mounted 10' below our system.
>>
>> Rick Harnish
>> President
>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>> 260-827-2482 Office
>> 260-307-4000 Cell
>> 260-918-4340 VoIP
>> www.oibw.net
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:56 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
>>
>> But then you need AC up the tower right?
>> Or how do you do it?
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 PM
>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
>>
>>
>>>
>>> For this, I've normally used an Ethernet fiber converter. Cat5 -> Fiber
>>> on
>>> the tower and Fiber -> Cat5 down below.
>>>
>>> These are "standard" 10/100 megabit Ethernet converters readily 
>>> available
>>> from networking supply houses.
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank Keeney
>>> Pasadena Networks, LLC
>>> Antennas, Cables and Equipment:
>>> http://www.wlanparts.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> On Behalf Of Jason Wallace
>>>
>>>
>>>Does anyone know of a good isolator for cat5?  I want to really
>>> protect
>>> my network from a tower mounted radio.
>>>
>>>
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[WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

[Rick Harnish]

This is a notice that the FCC Form 477 is due March 1st. 
The link below is for the FCC Website concerning this report.  http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html

 

Also one of the FAQ’s concerning WISPs

 

8. Are Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISPs) exempt?

No.
Entities that provide broadband connections to end user locations by using spectrum on an unlicensed basis
for the “last hop” to the end user location must report information
about those connections. Typically this is done by completing the questions for
broadband category 7 (“terrestrial fixed wireless”) in Part I of
the form and also filling in column (f) in Part V of the form. (If broadband
connections are reported in another technology category, such as
“terrestrial mobile wireless,” please put a brief explanatory note
into Part IV of the form.) A WISP should consider the user data rate (as
opposed to the over-the-air raw data rate, for example) when determining
whether connections are broadband for purposes of Form 477. (A broadband
connection enables the end user to receive information from and/or send
information to the Internet at information transfer rates exceeding 200 kbps in
at least one direction. See also FAQ #5.)

A WISP should not report subscribers to its
broadband Internet-access service when that service is delivered over a
broadband connection to the end user location that the WISP, or the
WISP’s customer, has obtained from an unaffiliated entity such as a municipality,
public utility district, or DSL service provider (“DSL
wholesaler.”) The underlying, facilities-based providers of wired
broadband connections to end user locations are responsible for reporting them,
and any particular broadband connection should be reported only once in this
data collection. See also FAQ #10.

Part II
and Part III of Form 477 – which are the parts of the form where
information about local telephone service is collected – may not apply to
particular WISPs:

·   
Only WISPs that are authorized (by
the WISP’s state telecommunications regulator) to operate as a CLEC need
to consider Part II of the form, and they should also see FAQ #13.

·   
Only WISPs that offer mobile
telephone service as commercial mobile radio service (CMRS) providers need to
consider Part III of the form. Note that CMRS providers typically hold or
operate spectrum licenses for cellular, PCS, or SMR services.

Respectfully

 

Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

260-918-4340
VoIP

www.oibw.net

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RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

[Rick Harnish]

I believe I heard a stat that 475 WISPs
filled them out last time.  Pretty poor showing in my opinion with some
sources saying there are approximately 6000 WISPs in the US.  You
do what you want.  As for me, I’m going to stay legal.  If the
FCC monitors this listserv, who do you think they will concentrate their
efforts on, those who follow their rules or those who snub them.  I am
going to assume they will go after those who don’t follow the rules
first.  If you think you are invincible because they “don’t
know about you”, Good Luck!

 

Respectfully,

 



Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

260-918-4340
VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  

 













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
6:11 PM
To: 'WISPA
 General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477
Due March 1st



 

Someone needs to start an
online poll in which we can go on and anonymously vote on weather we fill this
form out or not. Does the FCC say how many of these forms are being turned in?

 



Kurt
Fankhauser

WAVELINC

114 S. Walnut St.

Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

www.wavelinc.com



 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
11:54 AM
To: 'WISPA
 General List'
Subject: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due
March 1st

 

This is a notice that the FCC Form
477 is due March 1st.  The link below is for the FCC Website
concerning this report.  http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html

 

Also one of the FAQ’s
concerning WISPs

 

8. Are Wireless Internet
Service Providers (WISPs) exempt?

No. Entities that provide broadband connections to end
user locations by using spectrum on an
unlicensed basis for the “last hop” to the end user
location must report information about those connections. Typically this is
done by completing the questions for broadband category 7 (“terrestrial
fixed wireless”) in Part I of the form and also filling in column (f) in
Part V of the form. (If broadband connections are reported in another
technology category, such as “terrestrial mobile wireless,” please
put a brief explanatory note into Part IV of the form.) A WISP should consider
the user data rate (as opposed to the over-the-air raw data rate, for example)
when determining whether connections are broadband for purposes of Form 477. (A
broadband connection enables the end user to receive information from and/or
send information to the Internet at information transfer rates exceeding 200
kbps in at least one direction. See also FAQ #5.)

A WISP should not
report subscribers to its broadband Internet-access service when that service
is delivered over a broadband connection to the end user location that the
WISP, or the WISP’s customer, has obtained from an unaffiliated entity
such as a municipality, public utility district, or DSL service provider
(“DSL wholesaler.”) The underlying, facilities-based providers of
wired broadband connections to end user locations are responsible for reporting
them, and any particular broadband connection should be reported only once in
this data collection. See also FAQ #10.

Part II and Part III of Form 477 – which are the
parts of the form where information about local telephone service is collected
– may not apply to particular WISPs:

·   
Only WISPs that are authorized (by
the WISP’s state telecommunications regulator) to operate as a CLEC need
to consider Part II of the form, and they should also see FAQ #13.

·   
Only WISPs that offer mobile
telephone service as commercial mobile radio service (CMRS) providers need to
consider Part III of the form. Note that CMRS providers typically hold or
operate spectrum licenses for cellular, PCS, or SMR services.

Respectfully

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

www.oibw.net

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RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

[Rick Harnish]

Hehe, you tell me what you want to accomplish and we can build them for you.
Just don't be to shortsided, think to the future.  

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

Beautiful enclosure Rick! How long before we see these
available at RadioShack? ;-)


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider

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UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator


Nah, that one is a mess (hurried job), here is the way they should look.  

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

Rick,

Sweet! You did a heck of a clean job on that cabnet.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator


>I use Signamax fiber transceivers.  They run on 12vDC.  I still run AC up
> the tower with 12 guage wire in EMT conduit to a box with a regulated 12v
> power supply.  I have attached a photo of a recent box that has fiber
> running down a 260' tower.  The fiber transceiver is on the left side.
> There is also a Hirschman 4 port switch with a fiber port beside it.  We
> wanted to try both and allow some redundancy.  I doubt if I put two in the
> next application.  In this case we ran 12 strand hybrid fiber up the 
> tower.
> It was over kill but we had enough extra left over from another job that 
> it
> was convenient and cheap to use.  There is also a Corcom RF isolator 
> inline
> on the power leads.  I designed this box to combat a recent installation 
> of
> a 7000w FM radio transmitter mounted 10' below our system.
>
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482 Office
> 260-307-4000 Cell
> 260-918-4340 VoIP
> www.oibw.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:56 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
>
> But then you need AC up the tower right?
> Or how do you do it?
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator
>
>
>>
>> For this, I've normally used an Ethernet fiber converter. Cat5 -> Fiber 
>> on
>> the tower and Fiber -> Cat5 down below.
>>
>> These are "standard" 10/100 megabit Ethernet converters readily available
>> from networking supply houses.
>>
>>
>> Frank Keeney
>> Pasadena Networks, LLC
>> Antennas, Cables and Equipment:
>> http://www.wlanparts.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> On Behalf Of Jason Wallace
>>
>>
>>Does anyone know of a good isolator for cat5?  I want to really 
>> protect
>> my network from a tower mounted radio.
>>
>>
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RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

[Rick Harnish]

Quick Google search for Sections 502 and 503 of the Communication Act
returned this result.

http://www.telecomattorneys.com/analysis.html

You all might want to read it.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.pdf


20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477?

Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject

to the

enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable 
law. In

particular, the Commission has authority pursuant to sections 502 and 503 of

the

Communications Act to enforce compliance by fine or forfeiture.





Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" ; "Marlon Schafer 
(509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st


> OK...OK.
>
> I agree that all should probably file.  I have several partners so I am 
> not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my

> WISP entity.
>
> BUT...What is the penalty for not filing  Does anyone know???  Can

> we get an official statement for this situation? Are there fines? 
> Penalty's?? Do you get a nasty gram??  Do they not send me a xmas card 
> next year??  What???
>
> It may help bring more compliance or it may result in less filings. 
> Either way I think the membership should know.
>
> Marlon...How about asking some of your contacts.
>
> -B-
>
> -- 
> Bob Moldashel
> Lakeland Communications, Inc.
> Broadband Deployment Group
> 1350 Lincoln Avenue
> Holbrook, New York 11741 USA
> 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada
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RE: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

[Rick Harnish]

Welcome Roger!  Sounds like a much warmer environment than what some of us
work in during the winter.  Your welcome to stay around for awhile.  We
welcome your experienced input.

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Roger Boggs
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:48 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

Bored to tears in a hotel room outside of Richmond, VA so I thought I'd
jump onto this list and see who's here and what we're talking about
lately.  Haven't been doing much outdoor wireless stuff for more than a year
now..  All indoor - mostly in hospitals and warehouses in support of
RFID installations..

Just seeing what's hot and what's not these days.

Carry on.

Roger Boggs

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RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

[Rick Harnish]

I think this clause of the Communications Act might be used for unlicensed
spectrum violations.

"If the violator is neither a broadcast station licensee or permittee, cable
television operator, or applicant for any broadcast or cable television
operator license, permit, certificate or other instrument of authorization
issued by the FCC, or a common carrier, the amount of the forfeiture penalty
can not exceed $10,000.00 for each violation or for each day of any
continuing violation, except that the amount assessed for any continuing
violation can not exceed a total of $75,000.00 for any single act or failure
to act constituting a violation."

Or is it?

"Certain sections of Part 1 of Title II contain specific penal provisions
for violations. For example, Section 219 of the Act requires annual reports
from communications carriers and their parent corporations, if any to file
annual reports with the FCC. The failure of a carrier to file an annual
report is subject to a fine of $1,200.00 for each and every day the carrier
fails to file the report. The $1,200.00 fine under Section 219 is separate
and distinct and not in addition to those prescribed under Sections 501 and
502 of the Act. Similarly, Sections 214, 220 and 223 have separate and
distinct forfeiture provisions, which are not cumulative to the forfeiture
provisions under Sections 501, 502 and 503 of the Act."

Either way, not to many WISPs could afford these penalties not to mention
attorneys fees, time and travel.

Rick Harnish
President
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

Hey Scott,

By no means am I attempting to dig this up again but there are 2 trains 
of thought that have been brought out on this list. One is to file and 
let the Commission know they exist and the other is to fly under the 
radar.  Some say letting the FCC  (and others) know they exist could 
bring positive or negative results. Flying under the radar (providing 
there are no penaltys) and not reporting is another option.

Giving up spectrum is not something that happens much anymore without an 
auction. Wisp numbers are not the only thing that will drive new 
unlicensed spectrum releases. Manufacturers lobbying, municipal systems, 
colleges and universities needs, scientific and research spectrum 
requirements for data.  These are all things that will drive unlicensed 
spectrum releases IMHO if and when they happen.

Nowback to my question.  What happens to the provider that doesn't 
file Anyone care to suggest/project/assume/state what the official 
punishment is?  I know what it is for the "others"  (LEC's , CLEC's, 
Cable Operators) but what about the unlicensed operator? 

And what about the local university that provides "broadband" for the 
student for free or at a reduced rate??  Do they need to file??

Hmmm..

-B-



Scott Reed wrote:

> One penalty for not filing impacts all of us, filers or not, less 
> attention on our needs from the FCC.  Why would the commissioners 
> agree to give us much needed spectrum, rules we can live with, new 
> options in radio/antenna combinations, etc., when there are so few 
> willing to stand up and be counted.
>
> Please, file honestly.  I need your "vote" for the above things.
>
> Scott Reed
> Owner
> NewWays
> Wireless Networking
> Network Design, Installation and Administration
> www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/>



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[WISPA] Jack Unger

[Rick Harnish]

I would like to welcome Jack Unger to WISPA.  He has joined
WISPA as a full paid member this morning.  His website is http://www.ask-wi.com/

He is best known for his training seminars around the world
and for his book, Deploying License-Free 
Wireless Wide-Area Networks.  http://www.ask-wi.com/book.html

This is not an advertisement but simply an introduction to
a man who some say is the father of our industry.  

Respectfully,

 

Rick
Harnish

President

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Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

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RE: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers THREAD NOW CLOSED!

[Rick Harnish]

To All,

I agree, this thread is starting to get old and is bordering on verbal
attacks from several parties.  Enough opinions have been given for people to
make up their own mind.  Just because one person likes or dislikes something
doesn't mean that others will.  Please refrain from pushing your opinions on
others TOO FAR!  Thanks to the gentleman who introduced this product to the
list.  I'm sure you did so because it works well for you.

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers

Please don't continue on this topic.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers


> this from a 19 yr old business wiz... :P
>
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> > If you can't "do the job right" with a non-EZ connector then mabey you
> > should consider a different occupation. Out of thousands of crimps I've
> > never once had a crimp fail and all my crimps are consistant with each
> > other. A good solid RJ-45 crimp is very easy to make if you know what
> > your doing. Cutting corners by using "cheater" type products is not the
> > way you should be running a wisp.
> >
> > Kurt Fankhauser
> > WAVELINC
> > 114 S. Walnut St.
> > Bucyrus, OH 44820
> > 419-562-6405
> > www.wavelinc.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:55 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
> >
> > EZ is not for speed.  It's for doing the job right.  One service call
> > because of your "fast" crimp and all the speed for years of  "fast"
> > crimping is lost.
> >
> > Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> >
> >> I can crimp a regular rj45 connector faster than you can crimp your EZ
> >> ones. If you know what you are doing you have no problem crimping one.
> >>
> >> Kurt Fankhauser
> >> WAVELINC
> >> 114 S. Walnut St.
> >> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> >> 419-562-6405
> >> www.wavelinc.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:26 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
> >>
> >> What is your time worth?
> >>
> >> -Matt
> >>
> >> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> That's it.  Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Do you really pay $.60 per connector???  Maybe it's not as nice of a
> >>> tool as I thought
> >>>
> >>> laters,
> >>> Marlon
> >>> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> >>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> >>> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own
> >>>
> >>>
> >> wisp!
> >>
> >>
> >>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> >>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> >>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Aubrey Wells"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:14 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.happcontrols.com/electrical_supplies/92060900.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Aubrey Wells
> >>>> One Ring Networks
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> o: (404) 601.1407
> >>>> f: (404) 601.1408
> >>>> c: (770) 356.9767
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Marlon K. S

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st-That's Enough!

[Rick Harnish]

This thread is now closed.  These personal
attacks on Mr. Thomas are uncalled for.  We insist on more professional
decorum.  Any more attacks like this one will result in a list suspension. 
Some of you read a lot more into Mr. Thomas’s post than I think he intended. 
This behaviior is ridiculous and uncalled for.  I suggest some apologies are
due.

 

Respectfully,

 



Rick
Harnish

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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006
12:19 AM
To: WISPA
 General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477
Due March 1st



 

I 2nd that one Bob ! - Noone likes a lil tattle tale -
I think John Thomas just let his alligator mouth overload his mockinbird butt
on this one. Definitely lost my respect.

JohnnyO

On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 18:49 -0500, Bob Moldashel wrote: 

 John J. Thomas wrote: >There has been so much talk about this, I might be inclined to help the FCC find those WISPs that are snubbing their noses at the law. This is a professional list and those here should be abiding by the law. I wonder if it would be a good thing to "kick out" those that promote illegal activities?> >Whether you like it or not, WISPs will eventually be taxed- I guarantee the ILECs will see to that. If the FCC wants you, they will eventually find you.> >John Thomas> > >  > Dude, No one likes a snitch... Your energy would be better spent working on your website...Don't cha' think -B- -- Bob MoldashelLakeland Communications, Inc.Broadband Deployment Group1350 Lincoln AvenueHolbrook, New York 11741 USA800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada631-585-5558 Fax516-551-1131 Cell 




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RE: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

[Rick Harnish]

http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mario Pommier
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:47 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPS DO have to file the 477

so what is the link to the form?
I've seen links to instructions, and descriptions in the fcc website.
Maybe my browser is hiding the actual form.
thanks.

Mario

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> Thanks Kris!
>
> For those that don't know him, Kris is a telecom attorney who's been a 
> HUGE friend to the WISP industry.
>
> http://www.lokt.net/
>
> Laters,
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Lists for LoKT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:26 AM
> Subject: RE: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8
>
>
>> Yes, WISPs must fill out Form 477. Here is the link to the 
>> instructions for
>> the form: http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf
>> In that form, the relevant part is below. And as an aside, sheesh, 
>> everybody
>> should try to be a little nicer to each other. And that's coming from a
>> lawyer even...
>>
>> . Facilities-based Providers of Broadband Connections to End User 
>> Locations:
>> Entities that are facilities-based providers of broadband connections -
>> which, for purposes of this information collection, are wired "lines" or
>> wireless "channels" that enable the end user to receive information from
>> and/or send information to the Internet at information transfer rates
>> exceeding 200 kbps in at least one direction - must complete and file 
>> the
>> applicable portions of this form for each state in which the entity 
>> provides
>> one or more such connections to end user locations.
>>
>> For the purposes of Form 477, an entity is a "facilities-based" 
>> provider of
>> broadband connections to end user locations if it owns the portion of 
>> the
>> physical facility that terminates at the end user location, if it 
>> obtains
>> unbundled network elements (UNEs), special access lines, or other leased
>> facilities that terminate at the end user location and provisions/equips
>> them as broadband, or if it provisions/equips a broadband wireless 
>> channel
>> to the end user location over licensed or unlicensed spectrum. Such 
>> entities
>> include incumbent and competitive local exchange carriers (LECs), cable
>> system operators, fixed wireless service providers (including "wireless
>> ISPs"), terrestrial and satellite mobile wireless service providers, 
>> MMDS
>> providers, electric utilities, municipalities, and other entities. (Such
>> entities do not include equipment suppliers unless the equipment 
>> supplier
>> uses the equipment to provision a broadband connection that it offers 
>> to the
>> public for sale. Such entities also do not include providers of fixed
>> wireless services (e.g., "Wi-Fi" and other wireless ethernet,or wireless
>> local area network, applications) that only enable local distribution 
>> and
>> sharing of a premises broadband facility.) For such entities, the 
>> applicable
>> portions of the form are: 1) the Cover Page; 2) Part I; 3) Part IV (if
>> necessary); and the relevant portion(s) of Part V.
>>
>> Kris
>> __
>> Kristopher E. Twomey
>> Telecom/Internet Law and Regulatory Consulting
>> 510 903-1304
>> www.lokt.net
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:00 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: FCC Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8
>>
>> Send FCC mailing list submissions to
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RE: [WISPA] I know you guys will appreciate this...

[Rick Harnish]

That was great Bob!  

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] I know you guys will appreciate this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1514168659738935009


:-)


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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

[Rick Harnish]

Mac,

As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be
allowed to use the spectrum.  I would doubt if many consumer devices will be
allowed to operate in this spectrum.

I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade for
the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum.
http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html

I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra upgrade.


Rick Harnish
President
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260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

Marlon,

  Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose 
to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to

be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am 
dreaming here!!

Thanks,
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
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Rayville, La.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now


> Hi All,
>
> I talked to the FCC the other day.  5.4 is at the "grammatical checking 
> stage".  All of the hard work is done.  Should see product soon.
>
> They (the FCC) has extended the certification of the existing rules (5.4's

> rules also affect new 5.2 gig gear) for the current crop of 5.2 gig gear. 
> Only till around June though.  The new rules should be well in place by 
> then.
>
> For those that haven't seen the latest from the NTIA (that's who was 
> holding things up).
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/press/2006/5ghz_020806.htm
>
> laters,
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
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RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

[Rick Harnish]

Alex,

Please take this offlist.  This is not proper content for discussion on the
Wispa list servs.

Respectfully,  
 
Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
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Founding Member of WISPA 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] New revenue stream

I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would 
be okay to deploy on the network.

They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus 
additional fees for high load times.

When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they aren't 
in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.

Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of 
liability exists..

It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew says 
they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.

Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are 
doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom line. I 
don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself  - 
answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.

Any experience with this?

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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

[Rick Harnish]

Yes, my mistake.  Thank you for pointing out my error.  I wondered if I was
referring to the right NPRM but didn't take the time to look it up.  

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steve Stroh
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now


Rick:

I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed 
"contention-based" sharing mechanism.)

This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT 
requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the 
radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of 
the way.

It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for 
high-bandwidth, relatively short-range.


Mac:

It IS "available to everyone" - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news 
is that it may well be enough to "encourage" WLANs and cordless phones 
to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz.


Thanks,

Steve

On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote:

> Mac,
>
> As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to 
> be
> allowed to use the spectrum.  I would doubt if many consumer devices 
> will be
> allowed to operate in this spectrum.
>
> I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade 
> for
> the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum.
> http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html
>
> I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra 
> upgrade.
>
>
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482 Office
> 260-307-4000 Cell
> 260-918-4340 VoIP
> www.oibw.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
>
> Marlon,
>
>   Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned 
> loose
> to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this 
> going to
>
> be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I 
> am
> dreaming here!!
>
> Thanks,
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> Authorized Barracuda Reseller
> MikroTik RouterOS Certified
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.mac-tel.us
> www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
> Rayville, La.
> 318.728.8600
> 318.303.4228
> 318.303.4229
>

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[WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

[Rick Harnish]

To All,

 

I took over the moderation of the wireless@wispa.org list about a year and
one half ago.  The previous moderator handed over the reigns for a variety
of reasons but many of which were criticisms about how he did his job and the
personal stress involved.  I have received the same criticisms and have
let them hit my thick skin as gracefully as I could.  

 

This position is not a fun one, I need to try and keep up
with about 5 WISPA listservs as well as other duties for 50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists.  Tonight, I was
about 75 messages behind when I found time to catch up.  Alex’s post
with the title, “New Revenue Stream” was one of the newest messages
when I checked.  I will admit, I wasn’t in the best mood when I read
it.  Knowing that this list is publicly monitored, I really did not feel
it was the proper place to discuss hosting pornography and describing how
profitable it could be.  I try to be pretty liberal in my moderation
duties, but I felt this one stepped over the line.  Several of you feel I
was in error.  Possibly.

 

I have received a few complaints about my decision.  This
decision to moderate in no way harbored ill thoughts towards Alex
Huppenthal.  I would have responded the same way on that thread for any
poster.  I am disappointed he took my action so deeply to heart.  Normally,
I would not let a few complaints bother me, but in this case I am choosing to
respond.  While I stand by my decision that this was not proper content
for this list, I will allow the thread to continue if the members feel it is
important.  If you feel I was in error, feel free to contact me offlist. 

 

 

Respectfully,

 



Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

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[WISPA] List Discussion

[Rick Harnish]

First, I want to thank all of you for discussing moderation
duties.  We can only learn from the fruitful discussion that has developed
since last night.  While I received a bit of criticism for my action, I
also received many “attaboys”.  Just realize that there is no
way that any moderator is ever going to please every participant on a list
serv.  I still think that I made an educated decision for the long term
good of WISPA and our industry by nipping that thread in the bud.  If I hadn’t
stepped in quickly, the discussion MIGHT have become much more graphic and
embarrassing to the list.  Yes, I did thwart the discussion before it got
started but I felt it my duty to the association.  Obviously, people have
differing opinions of my duty and that is fine.  I realized a long time
ago that no decision I ever make will make every list member happy.  My
duty is to try to anticipate the long term effects of the impending discussion
and results the discussion may have on our industry .  I do so without
regard to race, religion or personal beliefs to the best of my ability.  

 

Now, I’m going back to my work schedule.  This is
my last response to this topic.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
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RE: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED)

[Rick Harnish]

Brian,

I will have to agree with Bob.  This is not a court of law.  WISPA has no
interest in the trying of vendors on this list.  This is a group of your
peers and WISP-Router is not going to defend themselves in this forum.
Therefore, please take this to an attorney and pursue your claims in a legal
and appropriate manner.  

Rick Harnish
President
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260-918-4340 VoIP
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: wisp-router (THREAD CLOSED)

My Opinion

FYIThis is not appropriate list traffic. This post does absolutely 
nothing for the promotion of WISPA.

-B-





Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

> My opinion.
> FYI   For those of you who remember this..
> I am still fighting them.  They disputed my dispute.  LOL  Who do they 
> think they are to take my money and not send the product?  Anyway, I 
> will not give up on this.  They will learn it's not ok to steal.
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>
>> Anyone ever have trouble with them.  FYI  They just informed me it is 
>> my fault they didn't ship me out what I paid for.
>> I've never done anything with Mikrotik.  I ordered what a friend told 
>> me to, I don't know what anything looks like,
>> I assumed when I looked in the box it was all there.  Well, I have 
>> Butch lined up an am ready to use it and...imagine that,
>> I'm missing parts.  Maybe I didn't call within the first 7 days.  Who 
>> gives a fart!  Be warned.  I just got screwed.
>> Credit card dispute to the rescue again.   Ahh, this just pisses me 
>> off.  I should get what I paid for. I don't lie.  I know I didn't get 
>> the part.  Speaking of not getting it.  Don't these people know the 
>> customer (ME) is always right? I can't get away with this crap with 
>> my subs, that's for sure.
>> Just so ya'll know, when I first called, the guy I talked to said it 
>> looked like it might not have been shipped.  They would look into is 
>> and call me back.
>> I was happy and thinking how I would post to the list and say how 
>> fast they helped me and solved my problem.  Nope.  Not today.  I
>> was promptly called back and blamed for their poor quality control.
>>
>>
>> Also, where can I order a RB564 Daughterboard to replace the one the 
>> "ups guy must have stole"?  Not wisp-router.  Need it overnight.
>>
>


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[WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] USA Today article on TV white space

[Rick Harnish]

This just out on TV Whitespaces.  We
should thank Marlon Shafer and John Scrivner for their persistent cooperation
with leaders of various industries to keep pushing this forward.

 



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From: FCC NPRM for UHF
TV Band Unlicensed Use [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rogers, Chris B
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:59
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] USA Today
article on TV white space



 

FYI... article in yesterday's USA Today.

-Chris 

Plan would widen rural areas' access to high-speed service


By Paul
Davidson, USA
TODAY
URL: http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2006-03-13-wireless-rural_x.htm


A proposal
to allow wireless broadband providers to use vacant frequencies between TV
channels is gaining support in Congress, a development that could deliver
high-speed access to underserved rural areas. 


 
  
  
  
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  FCC Chairman Kevin Martin has not acted on the vacant
  frequencies matter.
  
  
  
  
 
 
  
  By Paul Sakuma, AP File
  
 


Two recently introduced Senate bills would require
the Federal Communications Commission to issue rules to accommodate the
unlicensed services within six months. The measures, which are garnering
bipartisan support, are likely to be discussed at a Senate Commerce Committee
hearing on Tuesday. 

Yet, they're opposed by TV broadcasters that fear the
services would disrupt the nation's transition to digital television. 

A bill by Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Ted
Stevens, R-Alaska, tries to ensure that broadcasters are protected from
interference. A similar bill by Sen. George Allen, R-Va., is co-sponsored by
Sens. John Sununu, R-N.H., John Kerry, D-Mass., and Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.
Rep. Jay Inslee, D-Wash., plans a similar measure in the House. The bills could
be added to telecom reform this year.

Thousands of providers use antennas and free,
unlicensed spectrum to deliver broadband to sparsely populated rural regions
that would be too costly to serve with wires. 

But gearmakers such as Intel are drooling at the
prospect of using TV airwaves, which are in low-frequency bands that allow
signals to travel farther and to better penetrate buildings and foliage. That
means networks could be built with fewer antennas at a fraction of what systems
cost now. Lower expenses could entice wireless providers to expand service. 

"It would allow broadband services in many rural
areas," says Margie Dickman, senior attorney, Intel government affairs. 

At the end of last year, 24% of adult rural Americans
used broadband at home, vs. 39% of those in urban and suburban areas, says the
Pew Internet & American Life Project. 

In 2004, the FCC under then-chairman Michael Powell
proposed that wireless services be permitted to operate in the TV band as long
as they don't disrupt TV stations. But current Chairman Kevin Martin has not
acted on the matter out of concerns that the services would disrupt
broadcasters as they shuffle channels in the switch to digital. By Feb. 17,
2009, broadcasters must return their analog channels to the government. 

"Our concern is that we don't have people go
home (on Feb. 18, 2009), turn on the TV and it not work because somebody turned
on a wireless unlicensed device," says Dennis Wharton, spokesman for the
National Association of Broadcasters. 

But Intel's Peter Pitsch says wireless providers would
use smart transmitters that steer clear of channels used by TV stations and
reduce their power when necessary.

 

 

Christopher B. Rogers
NBI / Intel Capital
(503) 456-2104
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[WISPA] FW: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces and the growing political importance of 802.22...

[Rick Harnish]

More FYI.

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: FCC NPRM for UHF TV Band Unlicensed Use On Behalf Of Jim Snider
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: [TVWHITESPACE] This morning's senate hearing on the TV white spaces
and the growing political importance of 802.22...

I attended this morning's senate hearing on wireless policy (see
http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1709) and thought
that Kevin Kahn's verbal statement in support of unlicensed use of the
TV white spaces was excellent.  Here is a link to the written statement,
which I have not read: http://commerce.senate.gov/pdf/kahn-031406.pdf.
Jeannine Kenney from Consumers Union also provided a strong endorsement
of unlicensed use of the TV spaces.  Even the GAO's representative,
JayEtta Hecker was quite supportive of the white spaces proposal.  

On the other hand, MSTV and PFF came out swinging against it.  But it is
noteworthy that none of the senators badmouthed the white spaces
proposal and Senators Lautenberg, Allen, and Kerry gave it vigorous
endorsements, with even Committee Chair Stevens (who has one of the two
pro white spaces bills) speaking out in favor of it.  The most eloquent
statement was by Lautenberg.

As a practical matter, the biggest task right now is to refute MSTV's
detailed engineering attack on the white spaces proposals, including a
point-by-point attack of NAF's Marcus, Kolodzy, Lippman paper.  This was
handed out to all the senators.  

It's also time to recognize and respond to the broadcasters' strategy of
using the IEEE 802.22 standards setting body to dilute any white spaces
proposal Congress or the FCC might adopt.  Given the current political
situation, the 802.22 standards body recommendations have become central
to the broadcasters' counter attack.  On the surface, 802.22 supports
the FCC's white spaces proposal.  But it's a crippled version of the
proposal, and that appears to be the compromise the broadcasters are now
gunning for.

--Jim

P.S.  If you haven't yet, please read the comments and reply comments to
the FCC's proceeding on digital TV distributed transmission systems
(docket 05-312).  I believe that if broadcasters are successful in
expanding their interference protection from their Grade B out to their
DMA lines, it will have a huge impact on how much white space would be
available under 04-186.  If others think my analysis is wrong, I'd
welcome your feedback.

J.H. Snider, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow 
New America Foundation 
1630 Connecticut Ave., NW 
Washington, DC 20009 
Phone: 202/986-2700 
Fax: 202/986-3696 
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RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

[Rick Harnish]

Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this.  We use it on all tower
installs but not for CPE's.  

Rick Harnish
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a
long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it
would take to make it.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8" diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone & Internet Provider

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From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098

It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?

Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
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RE: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum]

[Rick Harnish]

I'll tell all of the wispa list members something.  JOHN SCRIVNER is on of
the best allies any of us have.  His untiring devotion to the WISP industry
is amazing.  MARLON SHAFER also has but endless hours of volunteer time into
this effort.  These two gentlemen deserve a standing ovation from around the
country.  

I have been relatively absent from the list the last few months building new
systems and rebuilding old systems.  I owed my staff, my business and my
customers some time dedicated to them.  Hopefully, I can start getting more
involved again to help stimulate this legislation.

Thanks to all who have sent letters and commented on this legislation.  Lets
all keep it up.

Regards,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: Frannie Wellings
Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum]

Thanks Dawn. I was in a bit of a panic when I asked for the contact info 
for the fist press release. I went back and re-read your post after that 
and contacted the TIA press agent directly. I copied this list on that 
message asking for them to correct the information.
Thanks all and so sorry,
Scriv


Dawn DiPietro wrote:

> All,
>
> I guess at this point I am at a loss of words. The original press 
> release with contact info was posted in my first email.
> Did the contact person at the TIA ever get back to you about the press 
> release? What should be done in the future
> to avoid a situation like this?
>
> I was under the impression there were people on this list to make 
> corrections when the media passes on misinformation.
> We do need to thank Frannie for clearing this up.
>
> Below is a link to explain why 608-614 Mhz spectrum cannot be used for 
> wireless broadband.
>
http://www.medical.philips.com/us/products/patient_monitoring/products/phili
ps_telemetry_system/index.html 
>
>
>   "Philips Telemetry System (608-614 MHz)
>Fresh capabilities for our proven system (operating at 
> 608-614 MHz)
>Philips classic telemetry systems are installed in 
> thousands of healthcare facilities around the world, and they have 
> proven both
>durable and adaptable for over a decade. Upgraded 
> transmitters combine standard and EASI derived 12-lead ECG* monitoring
>on a single device, run on AA batteries, and provide 
> audio feedback for many tasks. They're also upgradeable to run on our 
> cellular
>telemetry system."
>
> Apologies to all,
> Dawn DiPietro
>
> John Scrivner wrote:
>
>> We have a problem. It appears the press release we read earlier was 
>> wrong. Attached is the exact language of the bill. It is asking for 
>> ALL tv channels except for one small band. I do not know what is 
>> wrong with that one channel but this is actually a VERY GOOD bill. I 
>> am sorry for the mix up. I only acted on what I was told was the 
>> purpose of the bill. Had I read the ACTUAL bill this would not have 
>> happened. Dawn DiPietro, can you please send me contact information 
>> on the press outlet that sent out the previous information? It is 
>> time for us to SUPPORT this bill If you need help with language let 
>> me know but apparently I am not much help as I told you guys the 
>> wrong position on this one.. I learned a valuable lesson here gang. I 
>> will never again send out any notices to all of you for action prior 
>> to reading the ACTUAL bill and not just what he news tells us it is. 
>> I am very, very sorry for this terrible mix up. Please forgive me.
>> Scriv
>>
>>
>> IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
>>
>> Mr. INSLEE (for himself, Mrs. BLACKBURN, and Ms. BALDWIN) introduced
>>
>> the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on
>>
>> *
>>
>> A BILL
>>
>> *
>>
>> To amend the Communications Act of 1934 to promote and
>>
>> expedite wireless broadband deployment in rural and
>>
>> other areas, and for other purposes.
>>
>> //
>>
>> /Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- /
>>
>> //
>>
>> /tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled/,
>>
>> **
>>
>> *SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. *
>>
>> This Act may be cited as the ''American Broadband
>>
>> for Communities Act''.
>>
>> 2
>>
>> **
>>
>> *SEC. 2. UNUSED TELEVISION SPECTRUM

RE: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

[Rick Harnish]

Rick,

Please take no offense to this reply.  I haven't really been following this
thread until your last one and I read it because I enjoy reading your posts.

I reviewed your first post and the thread that followed.  You did ask for
input in your first post.

"Any input ?"

We do live in a free market economy and if someone is already doing this
cheaper than what your business plan is set for, is it totally wrong for
them to point it out?  Does that mean that you can't "do it better" at a
higher price?  As pointed out in other threads recently, cheaper is not
normally better.  If you are looking at a new business venture, your
research should generate an awareness of what other businesses are charging
and what kind of service that price includes.  If you think you can go head
to head and garner a market niche of WISPs as a WISPA member, then I think
you should give it a whirl.  As far as I know, Ron Johnson is not a paid
WISPA member.  If I were to choose a company as a wireless support center, I
would definitely weigh WISPA membership and experience heavily when making
my decision.

Maybe I am reading Ron's post in a different light than you are but I didn't
really see any strong attack on your post.  He merely pointed out that he is
in the business to do this and he is cheaper.  That in no way means the
other members of this list are going to flock to him for a solution.  

I'm sure I will draw criticism from some whichever side of the fence I take
here.  I think it is a good topic to discuss and for that reason, I will
allow the thread to continue.  I personally will find it interesting to know
what it takes to run a call center.  

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

Ya know Ron, that was uncalled for.

Wow, ripped apart on-list.  Great atmosphere for getting some feedback
on a business idea.  

Never again.

Hey Harnish, how about that ?   Argh.

Ron Johnson wrote:

>Guys 
>
>We have been support ISPs for over 10 years. Dialup, Cable, DSL, or
>wireless. Yes it can get complicated. But then again it is our business to
>know how to get the job done.
>
>Give me a call if we can help you with your Tech support and Customer
>service calls
>
>O BTW we price ours at a much better rate that these guys you are talking
>about.
>
>Ron Johnson
>President 
>National Support Center Inc.
>800-203-7961
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Mark Nash
>Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 6:53 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?
>
>Google GTC tech support. They are reasonable.  Level 1 and level 2 techs
>allow them to get their costs down.  If you have something specifically for
>wisps that would be more valuable.
>
>But there is a lot involved in doing this on. As a new customer of yours, I
>would expect you to familiarize your techs with my way of doing things so
>you can be useful for my customers when they call.
>
>My business partner owns a call center and we have looked at doing this a
>little without much interest in taking the plunge to do it.
>
>GTC had a hefty startup fee (I think it was $5k) to have one of their
>managers get familiar with my system and develop training for their L1 & L2
>techs.  Then they took the number of subscribers we had and made the base
>monthly fee ($1 x # of subs).  That gives you (1 minute x # of subs) of
>'tech time' per month.  Any overage would be about $.60 per minute for that
>month.
>
>Not a bad deal.  I didn't feel that the diversity of my system lent itself
>well to a 3rd party tech support at the time, and since then everything I
>have chosen to deploy has had a consideration given to 'Call Center Tech
>Support'.  Whether we do the tech support or not, it is worth it to spend
>time and money to streamline tech support methods so we can hire support
>personnel that are further down on the food chain.
>
>Mark
>-Original Message-
>From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:04:12 
>To:WISPA General List 
>Subject: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?
>
>
>I have a customer that just installed a $100k phone system and is lookin 
>for other uses.
>
>Having experience in both call center mangement and tech support department
>creation / operations and management, I've got half a mind to sit a 
&g

RE: [WISPA] Quick note of hello

[Rick Harnish]

Welcome back Jeff and Patrick.  This
seems to be one of the more active lists in the industry now.  Its good to
have both of you back.  Its so active, I am about 100 emails behind right
now……..but that is more my problem of lack of time than it is too
much traffic.  

 



Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

260-918-4340
VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  

 













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 12:34
PM
To: 'WISPA
 General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Quick note of
hello



 

Ditto.  I hear
things are going well here!

 

Jeff

 



 



Jeff
Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 



 



 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 12:17
PM
To: 'WISPA
 General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Quick note of
hello

Hi all,

 

I just wanted to drop you
guys a note that I have re-subscribed after being off the list for maybe two
years. Hope all is well.

 



Patrick Leary

AVP Marketing

Alvarion, Inc.

o: 650.314.2628

c: 760.580.0080

Vonage: 650.641.1243

Skype: pleary





 



 






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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Rick Harnish]

Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

"FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
HSDPA.
For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP."

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the
browser...
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>
> > same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
> > "unable" page.
> >
> > JohnnyO wrote:
> >
> >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
> >> provided
> >>
> >> We are currently unable to serve your request
> >>
> >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
> >> completed.
> >>
> >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
> >> believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
> >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
> >> google map for WISPS
> >>
> >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
> >>
> >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
> >> bob kim
> >>
> >> GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h
tml
> >>
> >>
> >
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RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Rick Harnish]

Robert, 

Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:33 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

"FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or
HSDPA.
For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP."

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the
browser...
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>
> > same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
> > "unable" page.
> >
> > JohnnyO wrote:
> >
> >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
> >> provided
> >>
> >> We are currently unable to serve your request
> >>
> >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
> >> completed.
> >>
> >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
> >> believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
> >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
> >> google map for WISPS
> >>
> >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
> >>
> >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
> >> bob kim
> >>
> >> GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h
tml
> >>
> >>
> >
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RE: [WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Rick Harnish]

I'm not kidding Robert, I applaud your efforts, but if you want a usable
product, you need to get either a faster server or a faster hosting service.
Adding sites to this is excruciating.  I have plenty of bandwidth on my end
so I would guess the problem is on your end still.  

Respectfully,  
 
Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Founding Member of WISPA 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

Funny Guys.. really fuy Rick!
any hows... my goal here is to get the public the RIGHT kind of
internet service for their needs...

True MOBILE Broadband Synch / low latency is still years off...

so... Im planning to add a note:
"
for FIXED Wireless Broadband, contact a WISP.
for Mobile Wireless Internet, contact evdo-coverage.com
A WISP can deliver much faster connection speeds than EVDO at wire
line latencies. 3g Such as EVDO and HSDPA are only medium speed on the
download stream and thin band on the uploads."

Can You Guys gimme any speeds to quote???

ps... thanks for the free hosting offer... suuuper cool of you
JohnnyO! will advise

re hover text..:
in Satelite mode.. the hover text is clear.. so i gotta do a
conditional color filter...


Newest Revision
Alpha Version:
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com

On 4/26/06, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lol
>
>
>
> On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?
> >
> > Rick Harnish
> > President
> > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> > 260-827-2482 Office
> > 260-307-4000 Cell
> > 260-918-4340 VoIP



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Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

[Rick Harnish]

Here is the email I sent out to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
list.  Anyone belonging to a "state"@wispa.org
list should send a similar email out to those perspective lists. 
Obviously, you should change the contact for your appropriate state. 
Those can be found at http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/recd_map.html.

 

 

 

Scott and others,

 

 

 

A company called “Open
 Range” has applied
for an RUS loan for a nationwide wireless rollout.  They have sent out
public notices to newspapers all over the states.  I didn’t see it
in my local paper but the Huntington Herald Press ran it and a customer alerted
me of it.  According the notice we have 30 days (less now) to file papers
showing our service areas.  

 

 

 

The Indiana
contact for the RUS program is:

 

 

 

Allen D. Deforest Illinois

 

5523 South Cardwell
  Road Indiana

 

Bloomington,
 Indiana 47403

 

(812) 825-3727

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

Incumbent Broadband Providers need to file a “Legal Notice
Response Form”  which is found at http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband.htm. 
The link to the form can be found in Application Materials.  Coverage Maps
are required to be attached to the form.  The date of the notice was
4/17/2006.  I would get the forms in by the 10th of May to be safe.

 

 

 

Respectfully, 

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:01 AM
To: WISPA Board Members List
Subject: Re: [Board] Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

 

Anybody have an response or opinion or ?

George

 

George wrote:

> Hi guys

> A couple things.

> Do you think that wispa ought to have a vehicle in place for our
wispa 

> members to be able to have help filing for grants like this?

> And shouldn't we ought to add another director or three to the
board  to 

> help facilitate some projects.

> I'm sure if we asked the member ship again for 3 more additional 

> candidates that we may just have more interested participation.

> 

> I still haven't really gotten going on the promo stuff yet,. Tom
and I 

> started a discussion and we got 3 basic ideals on the table, but
we 

> haven't taken it from there. I feel the next step for us is to
open up 

> applications for additional promo and marketing committee members.

> 

> Hoe do you guys feel about this?

> 

> George

> 

> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> 

>> anyone seen anything like this before?

>> 

>> Marlon

>> (509)
982-2181  
Equipment sales

>> (408) 907-6910
(Vonage)   
Consulting services

>> 42846865
(icq)   
And I run my own wisp!

>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)

>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott

>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM

>> Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Don't you provide service here?:

>> 

>> LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a
prospective 

>> applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan
Guarantee 

>> Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities


>> Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We
are 

>> required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to
provide 

>> broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in
the State 

>> of Washington
in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, 

>> Burlington,
Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College
  Place, East 

>> Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale,
Fort Lewis, Gig 

>> Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres,
Lynden, Moses Lake,
Othello, Quincy,


>> Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. 

>> Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the
date of 

>> this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently
providing 

>> broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment
to 

>> provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service
providers 

>> should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the
number of 

>> residential customers receiving broadband service in the
proposed 

>> service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of
each 

>> level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in
the 

>> proposed service area. A map should 

RE: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?

[Rick Harnish]

I would contact your local RUS
representative to see if they have such a list.

 



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:50
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS
loans/grants?



 

Is there a centralized listing of all communities to
be effected by Open
 Range?

Best,
-- 
Dylan Oliver
Primaverity, LLC 






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[WISPA] Monopole Burns

[Rick Harnish]

For your viewing pleasure.  Moral of the Story:  Be Safe
Everyone

 

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0406/319299.html

 

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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

[Rick Harnish]

We were subcontracted by a Rural Utility Cooperative to inventory, install,
make sales, consult, and perform billing activities and maintenance for
their Wildblue rollout.  This is ongoing revenue for the installed
customers.  I believe we installed about 175 units last fall until the
capacity of Beam 27 (midwest) reached capacity.  

Wildblue is putting another bird in space this fall and more sales
opportunities will commence at that time.  

It is mandatory that you be a certified WildBlue installer to perform such
duties.  

Rick Harnish
President
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260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
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www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company?

We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to 
give away the customers.

grr

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue


> We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /
> Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with
> them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity
> and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've
> dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins.
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM
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> Subject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue
>
>
> To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internet
> service under its own brand.
>
> [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban
> d_1]
>
> The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,
> Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T as
> part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology
> that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.
> Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist
> <http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html> at
> 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM
>
> -- 
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
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RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue

[Rick Harnish]

Given the opportunity, most WildBlue
customers will switch to an alternative source of broadband as soon as it is
available in their area.  WildBlue is much better than Directway but it is
STILL satellite Internet.  Physics is Physics.  Ping
times usually average from 550-650 ms (at least early on, I’m not sure
right now)  They don’t allow gaming or VoIP.

 



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:35
PM
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 General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T
reselling Wildblue



 

Around here, I got more
calls for service in the week after the Wild Blue rollout than in the 3 months
before.

And, now with their system overload, I am poaching their customers left and
right

Bring em' on!!!

Rick Harnish wrote:



We were subcontracted by a Rural Utility Cooperative to inventory, install,make sales, consult, and perform billing activities and maintenance fortheir Wildblue rollout.  This is ongoing revenue for the installedcustomers.  I believe we installed about 175 units last fall until thecapacity of Beam 27 (midwest) reached capacity.   Wildblue is putting another bird in space this fall and more salesopportunities will commence at that time.   It is mandatory that you be a certified WildBlue installer to perform suchduties.   Rick HarnishPresidentOnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.260-827-2482 Office260-307-4000 Cell260-918-4340 VoIPwww.oibw.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:51 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue Has anyone found a way to get long term revenue from a sat. company? We're working with a sat installation company but we're going to have to give away the customers. grr Marlon(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)    Consulting services42846865 (icq)    And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam   - Original Message - From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:13 PMSubject: RE: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue    

We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana /Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success withthem. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacityand add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we'vedealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Peter R.Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] AT&T reselling Wildblue  To fill in on rural gaps, AT&T is selling Wildblue satellite internetservice under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadband_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska,Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by AT&T aspart of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technologythat underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed.Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist at5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM --   Regards, PeterRAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP StrategistWe Help ISPs Connect & Communicate813.963.5884http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm  -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 

   






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RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO

[Rick Harnish]

Mac Dearman had a few a week or so ago that he was trying to sell.  You
might check with him.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO

Cliff, I think Jim Patient has some. www.jeffcosoho.com 
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO


No Paul, but I will look at them. 
Thanks,
Cliff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO

Have you considered the EMP-8602 instead? Cheaper, newer chipset and
supports a, b and g (100mW, 400mW and 400mW). Not used them myself but
have
heard good things from people who have.

Paul Hendry
Skyline Networks

http://www.skyline-networks.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: 10 May 2006 23:46
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO

Defacto Wireless has them in stock as of 2pm

www.defactowireless.com



Cliff Leboeuf wrote:

> I am in need of the following. Anyone out there care to help? :)
>
>  
>
> Qty 2 - SR5-80211A  SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
>
>  
>
> Please contact me off-list.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>  
>
>  
>
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

[Rick Harnish]

Tom,

" You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it
in."  

You don't need "the big ass Hammer"!  Just pour a little water on the
ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in
again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in
and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you already
have water bottles in stock :)

I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water softens the
ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
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RE: [WISPA] need your contact info

[Rick Harnish]

I knew you should have bought a computer and a cell phone at Fry's instead
of those Squid thingy's.  Did Butch break your laptop?

Rick Harnish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] need your contact info



Hey folks,

  My PC bit the dust while I was in Dallas (MUM) and now the magic smoke in
my cell phone has escaped. In these two POS items was contained my entire
brain! If I am supposed to have your work contact number, email addy, cell
phone number, VoIP number, home number...etc -   Would you please shoot me
an email (off list please to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the pertinent
data?  It would make my life a million times easier and I would certainly
appreciate your time and effort. 

Oh yeah - - - if you owe me money - - - don't worry as my wife has that data
in a safe place :-)

Thanks,
Mac Dearman
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

[Rick Harnish]

Scott,

 

I don’t have much sand here, you
have to go north of Fort Wayne
to get into that.  We have a lot of clay here as well.  

 



Rick
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From:
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:57
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices



 

Yeah, your in that nice sandy soil up north. 
Come on down to Centerville. 
My yard is harder that the sidewalk in the summer.   Put some water
on the ground in the at it would make steam, not mud.  That's why pottery
is made of clay, and boy do we have some. 

Actually, I will have to try that, but I am pretty sure around here every uses
a fence post driver or the hammer drill type attachment. 

Scott Reed 
Owner 
NewWays 
Wireless Networking 
Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 


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Sent: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:26:54 -0400 
Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices 

> Tom, 
> 
> " You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to
hammer it 
> in."   
> 
> You don't need "the big ass Hammer"!  Just pour a little
water on the 
> ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in

> again.  Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the
way in 
> and hammer it the last few inches.  Works like a charm.  And you
already 
> have water bottles in stock :) 
> 
> I never would have believed it until I saw it done!  The water
softens the 
> ground and works as a lubricant.  Its really slick. 
> 
> Respectfully, 
> 
> Rick Harnish 
> President 
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 
> 260-827-2482 Office 
> 260-307-4000 Cell 
> 260-918-4340 VoIP 
> www.oibw.net 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: [WISPA] gas prices

[Rick Harnish]

Cliff,

You mean JohnnyO has friends?  That's an interesting concept for sure!  :P

Met one of your fine employees at MUM.  Brent I think his name was.  He
represented you well.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
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260-827-2482 Office
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260-918-4340 VoIP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices

JohnnyO,

I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon
insulate himself from some liability.

I agree.

Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :)

But, then again -- what are friends for?

- Cliff


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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM
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But then again - You're from Houma ! 

JohnnyO

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices


I have to also agree!

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Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM
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I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a
business Marlons size against incorporating "Good".

Too much protection there not to do it.

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices


> You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet

> neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability
> protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred
dollars 
> it takes to incorporate.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> 
>> We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer.
>>


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RE: [WISPA] soho router to replace wrt54g?

[Rick Harnish]

I refuse to sell Linksys routers anymore.  I have given them two chances.
They went to crap when Cisco bought Linksys.  We tried again a year later
and still found them really flaky.  Technical Support help would just deny
there was any problems with them.  I gave up! We have tried Netgear, Dlink,
Trendnet..but we have found Buffalo AirStation G54 Wireless Routers
to be excellent for stability and in house coverage.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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Subject: [WISPA] soho router to replace wrt54g?

Since the new wrt54g's how come out, they are crap, any suggestions for a
low-cost soho router?


Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
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RE: [WISPA] SORBS.net

[Rick Harnish]

Not coming up for me either George

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:54 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] SORBS.net

Anyone else having a problem bringing up sorbs?
I just got one of those dreaded reject letters with a sorbs problem and 
I'm having a hell of a time getting it to open.

George

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RE: [WISPA] SORBS.net

[Rick Harnish]

Took forever but it finally loaded the webpage.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
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260-918-4340 VoIP
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] SORBS.net

Not coming up for me either George

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:54 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] SORBS.net

Anyone else having a problem bringing up sorbs?
I just got one of those dreaded reject letters with a sorbs problem and 
I'm having a hell of a time getting it to open.

George

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RE: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

[Rick Harnish]

We have a radio station streaming from mutually collocated tower across our
backhaul.  The backhaul is running Star-OS on War Boards.  We had a few
issues when they were streaming direct from the tower to their clients.
They now send one stream to an offsite server which then serves their
clients from a more stable connection.  I assume it is in a datacenter on
fiber.  They blocked access to the collocated streamer from all IP's except
the server address.  This way they are only running one stream instead of
dozens.  It is an AM station.  You can listen to it at http://www.wadm.com/.
Enjoy if you like country music.   

Rick Harnish
President
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

The radio station that I get space from was ready to do that from one of the

DJ's houses in my coverage area.

I agree with your thoughts below.  The tough part for me (and why I 
eventually talked them out of the idea) is that our noise levels and 
competition competence levels are not conducive to perfect service in the 
area in question.

But sure, it should work just fine as long as all other parameters normally 
stay normal!
Marlon
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)


> I've been asked if an FM broadcast station can broadcast from a "remote" 
> (non-studio) location by putting the audio over an existing license-free 
> wireless network to connect back to the main studio. On the surface of it,

> I don't see why this wouldn't work as long as:
>
> 1. The wireless network is reliable, and
> 2. The remote FM audio stream can be converted to a half-duplex stream of 
> Ethernet packets.
>
> Does anyone know of someone who has done this successfully and, if so, 
> what equipment was used on both the audio and RF networ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>jack
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RE: [WISPA] looking for a device

[Rick Harnish]

Virtual LAN.  Imagine segregating segments of your network across a backhaul
pipe so that they flow together but don't actually see each other.  Managed
switches have the ability to create VLANs per port.  Think of it as a merger
between routing and switching.  Its a pipe or several inside a pipe.  Tried
to be simple here, I'm sure someone else can give you a more technical
description.

Rick Harnish
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 9:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

Can you or someone explain what double VLAN is? I have never heard of 
such a thing. How can it be used to help us?
Thanks,
Scriv

>
> Yo may want to look at Alvarion. Alvarion does support VLAN. new 
> Firmware4 supports double VLAN also.
> Alvarion used to have one model that was designed to have a second 
> integrated radio into it.
> I can't remember if it was a 900/2.4 combo, or a 5.8/2.4 combo.
>
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[WISPA] RE: [Spam] [isp-wireless] Cat5 and Tower Vandalism

[Rick Harnish]

We just had a 300' tower we rent space on vandalized.  The vandals stripped
all the copper off of the tower, guy wires, and building grounds.  My
installer calculated that the should have netted about $1300 from the take.
The tower got hit by lightning Wednesday morning and we lost some equipment.
Doesn't surprise me with no grounds on the tower.  They climbed all the way
to the top, left the lightning rod but stripped off the cable.  Better check
your sites, this might become commonplace.  They must have dropped their
bolt cutters in the dark because my climbers found them in the grass.  

-Original Message-
From: Chad Halsted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:05 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: RE: [Spam] [isp-wireless] Cat5

Yea, I can't wait to see what #4 solid copper ground wire is going to be
per foot.

-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:05 PM
To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: Re: [Spam] [isp-wireless] Cat5

You guys price cable lately???  Out here my local hardware store went
from 
$89 per box to $130 per box in the last two weeks!

Copper pipe and electrical have also done this.

Marlon
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RE: [WISPA] Chicago tower

[Rick Harnish]

Marlon,  

I think we need a leeettle bit more information.  There are a lot of
people and a lot of towers in Chicago.  

Rick Harnish
President
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Founding Member of WISPA



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Chicago tower

Anyone know who's this is?

marlon

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[WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's

[Rick Harnish]

So, has anyone successfully deployed the Tranzeo 900
solution with SR9’s yet?  Mikrotik, Ikarus or Star-OS?   I’m
looking for real results so I can start making decisions.

 

Thanks,

 

Rick Harnish

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RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's

[Rick Harnish]

Well that's why I needed clarification.  I'm trying to figure out whether
Tranzeo 900 -> WAR/WRAPs AP is a good solution or stay with a pure StarOS or
Mikrotik AP-Client solution.

Thanks Lonnie,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's

Whoa, bad assumption Rick.  We would never be waiting for anything
from Tranzeo.

I was saying we are awaiting our first batch of SR9 for evaluation and
our own network, but that many of our customers have already tested
SR9's with our software, and they report excellent results with both
the WAR board and the new V3 code for WRAP boards.

The Tranzeo should talk with an SR9 since they both use an Atheros
base.  The only trouble will be the driver and that I can't speak to.

Lonnie

On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lonnie,
>
> To clarify please, I assume your saying that you are awaiting your first
> shipment of Tranzeo 900's for your own usebut others have already
> deployed WAR Boards V3 or WRAPs with the Tranzeo 900 solution.  Is that
> correct?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900's and SR9's
>
> We are awaiting our own shipment but customers have reported good
> results with WAR boards and the new V3 for x86 WRAP boards.
>
> Lonnie
>
> On 8/3/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > So, has anyone successfully deployed the Tranzeo 900 solution with SR9's
> > yet?  Mikrotik, Ikarus or Star-OS?   I'm looking for real results so I
can
> > start making decisions.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Harnish
> >
> > President
> >
> > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> >
> > 260-827-2482
> >
> > Founding Member of WISPA
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RE: [WISPA] Web site update

[Rick Harnish]

The link worked for me. http://signup.wispa.org/wispa-newacct.html  I'm sure
more links will be added shortly.  Matt is trying to get the new website up
so he can place vendor logos on it to help promote their membership and
products.  I will get with Matt and see if I can assist.   

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web site update

George Rogato wrote:

> Thank you Matt Larsen for your hard work.
> http://www.wispa.org/
>
> George
>
Matt,
Great job!

This link from the sign-up page is broken:
http://www.wispa.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=26&mo
de=thread&order=0&thold=0

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RE: [WISPA] ARC Wireless Cat5 cable (need to order)

[Rick Harnish]

Brian,

Try http://www.kendallelectric.com/locations.asp.  We buy a lot of cable
from them.  There should be a location close to you.

Rick Harnish

 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:48 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com
Subject: [WISPA] ARC Wireless Cat5 cable (need to order)

I ran out of cable and ARC wireless is waiting for 35k foot of cable to 
be in their Q before they order.  Last time I ordered it was .689 cents 
a foot for the outdoor gel filled with drain wire.  But the raw 
materials have gone up 40% I hear.  So we'd be doing good to get it $100 
to $120 a spool.

So anyway, I am trying to spark some orders so I can get good cable at 
good prices.  The ARC guy is getting back to me with the quote for the 
35k.  He will ship to multiple addresses and take multiple payments.  I 
only use 1-2000 foot a month and I am small, so I know some of you guys 
can get a few rolls.  I will be posting the cat5 spec sheet and the 
final price per foot later.  I'm not going to bother them with 35 people 
wanting 1 roll.  If you can get 4-5 rolls give me a shout and I'll pass 
on the info to ARC that you want to be added to the 35k buy I'm setting 
up and you will pay them and get shipment from them.

Disclaimer:  I get nothing from this except the 4-5 spools I order for 
myself at the same price you pay.

ps  Get in on this order.  I can't find cable anywhere else for under 
$200 a spool.

Brian
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[WISPA] Spectrum Auction Began Today

[Rick Harnish]

August 9, 2006 
FOR SALE:
Spectrum 
By Roy
Mark 





Let
the bidding begin. 

Wednesday
morning, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) opens its advanced
wireless services (AWS) auction with hopes of bagging as much as $15 billion
from cell phone providers, cable companies, satellite broadcasters and outright
speculators. 

Given
the explosive demand for spectrum to deliver wireless video and broadband
services, the FCC might well hit its target. 

In
all, the FCC will put up for auction 1,122 AWS licenses in the 1710-1755 MHz
and 2110-2155 MHz bands. The spectrum was previously occupied by the Department
of Defense. 

The
country's dominant cell phone providers -- Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel and
Cingular -- certainly all want a piece of the action and are expected to be
major players in the auction, which may last up to a month or longer. 

The
Big Three will likely face fierce bidding from T-Mobile, the nation's number
four cell phone provider. A unit of Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile USA currently
lacks the capacity to provision mobile broadband. 

Cable
giants Comcast, Time Warner and Cox also figure into the equation as they seek
to add wireless phone service to their popular bundles of television, telephone
and broadband. 

Satellite
television providers DirecTV and EchoStar are also expected to make a serious
splash in the bidding as they increasingly feel the pinch from bundled cable
offers. 

DirecTV
and EchoStar, fierce competitors on any given day, are so serious about
grabbing some spectrum for broadband services they formed a partnership known
as Wireless DBS and dropped a $972.5 million check on the FCC to guarantee
their bidding spot. 

Comcast
is also playing the combination game, joining with Sprint Nextel to put up
$637.9 million to grab a spot in the auction queue. 

Adding
to the mix are speculators such as Wall Street money manager Mario Gabelli, who
last month paid a $130 million fine to
settle civil litigation charges he rigged a few bids in a previous FCC spectrum
auction. 

According
to the Department of Justice (DoJ) complaint, the FCC established rules for
certain auctions that permitted only "small" or "very
small" businesses to participate or to qualify for bidding credits and
favorable financing. 

The
DoJ said although Gabelli and his affiliated companies did not qualify for
these auctions, he nevertheless masterminded a scheme to participate in the
wireless auctions. 

Despite
the fine, Gabelli and his affiliates qualified for this FCC spectrum auction. 

For
the losers of the complex process, hope awaits in 2008, when the FCC is
expected to auction off the spectrum being deserted by television broadcasters
moving to digital broadcasting. 

That
auction is expected to shatter this month's expected record proceeds, since the
spectrum previously used by the broadcasters can penetrate through mountains
and dense urban areas. 

Respectively

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

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RE: [WISPA] Welcome Alvarion to WISPA - Our Newest Vendor Member

[Rick Harnish]

Matt,

As far as I know, Alvarion is the only radio manufacturer that has stepped
up to the plate so far.  We are trying to convince other manufacturers to
support the trade association that is their bread and butter as well.
Thanks to Patrick Leary and the Alvarion team for their decision to support
WISPA.

Rick Harnish
President
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260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Welcome Alvarion to WISPA - Our Newest Vendor Member

Do we have other radio vendors as members? I would certainly like to 
know since it would impact my decision when buying new radios.

-Matt

John Scrivner wrote:
> We are proud to announce that Alvarion has joined WISPA as our newest 
> vendor member. Alvarion has been key in the development of the 
> operations of many WISPs over the years. Alvarion is considered by 
> many to be the premier solution for WISP operations and we welcome 
> them to WISPA as a vendor member. I am sure I speak for all WISPA 
> members when I say welcome to Alvarion.
> Scriv

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RE: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2 [THREAD CLOSED]

[Rick Harnish]

Better late than never!  This Thread is closed.  Start a new thread if you
want to discuss either platforms further and keep it civil. Offline
discussions with the various parties of this thread have taken place and
concerns have been voiced.

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2

Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact 
same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree 
with everything you said here.
:-)
Scriv



Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> Calm down kids!!
>
> First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time practicing 
> some self-control.  Instead of digging into Lonnie, why not just make 
> a request to change the name of the thread.  FWIW, Lonnie did NOT 
> hijack this thread - others who were testing WAR boards out brought up 
> their experiences with it and testing and Lonnie responded.  That is 
> entirely appropriate.  There would not be a response like George's if 
> you didn't have a history of pissing people off on this and other 
> lists.  What George said is true - there are companies and other WISPs 
> that won't subscribe to a list of you are on it.  I'm not going to go 
> into details here, but you are welcome to hit me up offlist if you 
> want a breakdown.   Also it is not George's responsibility to manage 
> posts and subject lines, so it is not fair to dig into him about list 
> management.
>
> Second, to George.  I appreciate your desire to maintain decorum on 
> the lists, but I think it would have been more appropriate to respond 
> to JohnnyO offlist.  I don't think this was a situation of bigotry, 
> just a slightly misunderstood bit of joking around between a couple of 
> people who are a little bit sensitive toward ribbing coming from each 
> other.  Not a big deal at all.
>
> Finally, to everyone...
>
> I am very happy to see that we have built up a nice community on the 
> WISPA lists, and I  hope we continue to build that sense of 
> community.  I am all for a little bit of spice and it is good to see 
> some legitimate, real world experience and testing get exchanged 
> between the members.  Of all the lists I'm on, this is now the most 
> useful one to me by FAR, and that is not something that happened 
> overnight.  It has taken some time and unfortunately we do still have 
> to try to put people in their place when things get a little too out 
> of hand, but overall I think that we have done a very good job of 
> maintaining the balance between total control and anarchy.
> Peace out,
>
> Matt Larsen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> JohnnyO wrote:
>
>> George - can you tell me if calling me a bigot is a slam ? IF it is,
>> then you fall under the same category.
>> I guess it's ok for a vendor to hijack threads to promote his own stuff
>> ? The thread was about the Routerboard 532As and Mikrotik. This is my
>> opinion and I will post my opinions. I guess you think it's ok for you
>> to practice DICTATORSHIP ?
>> I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS
>> crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I
>> would look for posts labled Star-OS !
>> Maybe you should put more time into managing the posts and subject lines
>> of the threads.
>>
>> I do have an opinion and am a paying member.
>>
>> Which vendors are you talking about ? Which WISPs ? Don't throw out
>> bullcrap unless you're willing to provide the proof.
>>
>> I banter/kid/joke with the Canadians and have for several years and will
>> continue to do so. I have slammed vendors on Part-15s lists and also
>> Judd's list who have proved to me to be substandard in customer service
>> or product quality, but I can't recall the last time I "slammed" a
>> vendor on WISPA.
>>
>> JohnnyO
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of George Rogato
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:50 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 532 and NStreme2
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> *Lonnie is famous for hijacking threads to promote his products. 
>>> We shouldn't punish him for it because after all, he is canadian ! :)~
>>>
>>> JohnnyO
>>> 
>>
>>
>> Johnny.. Where do you come from that you thin

RE: [WISPA] Wireless internet equipment Sales/Repairs (Alvarion, BreezeCom, BreezeACCESS, Canopy, Cisco)

[Rick Harnish]

As far as I know, they didn't contact the Board for approval to post this
ad.  We will discuss it and most likely send them a bill for advertising on
this listserv.  A representative from this company should send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately.  We invite EZlinx to pursue vendor membership
WISPA but we do not condone this unsolicited and unapproved spamming
behavior.

Thanks,

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless internet equipment Sales/Repairs
(Alvarion,BreezeCom, BreezeACCESS, Canopy, Cisco)

Thought there was some new way for posting ads on the list.  Is this one 
"ok"?

Justin Ide wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Ezlinx.net is an ISP/WISP located in Wilkes-Barre, PA  that also 
> specializes in the repair of wireless internet equipment.
>
> We repair Cisco, Motorola Canopy, Alvarion, Proxim, Trango,  and 
> Tranzeo units. 
>
>  We currently offer two repair plans:
>
>  
>
> Pay Per Unit Plan:
>
> We will repair your equipment for a fixed charge. Repair prices vary 
> greatly due to the many different types of wireless equipment. Charges 
> are determined by the manufacturer of the equipment, frequency range, 
> and type of equipment (Subscriber / Access). Please call for a quote. 
> We do not charge to examine your equipment so there is no charge 
> unless we fix it!
>
>  
>
>  50/50 Plan:
>
> Our alternate plan is what we call the 50/50 plan. Send us all your 
> broken equipment and we will repair as much of it as we can. When we 
> are done, the repaired equipment is split 50/50 between your company 
> and ours. We will send you back your half of the repaired equipment as 
> well as any equipment that we couldn't fix.  There is no monetary 
> charge to you except the shipping charges to get the equipment to us. 
> This plan works well for companies that have a box (or in some cases 
> boxes) of broken equipment sitting in a corner somewhere. They don't 
> know what to do with the equipment because repair charges would be 
> astronomical and the units are out of warranty. Thanks to the 50/50 
> plan half of that broken equipment can be turned into working assets!
>
>  
>
>  We test all units for full functionality after our repairs. Tests 
> are performed for association, attenuation, as well as traffic.  We 
> reset all units to full factory defaults and provide reports on our 
> repairs.  We have many customers satisfied with our repair work and 
> just in case you are not satisfied all units come with a 30 day warranty.
>
> If you are interested we will gladly forward an email with 
> instructions on how to send your equipment in.
>
> We also purchase working and non working equipment.  if you have 
> access to inventory please call us at:
>
> 1-866-439-5469 or by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>
>  
>
> Thank you for your time and we look forward to working with you.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> EZlinx.net
>
> 1-866-439-5469
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Store.ezlinx.net
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ---
>
> Justin Ide
>
> Phone:  *866-439-5469*
>
> Fax:  *800-396-7134*
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://www.ezlinx.net
>
>  
>
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RE: [WISPA] How can this be?

[Rick Harnish]

Fastest and most reliable does not equate to broadband penetration which his
where the US is lagging.  I think that is Dawn's point.

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
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Founding Member of WISPA
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How can this be?

The USA show's the fastest, most reliable connections!

I guess that must be because no one here uses the internet!  (eye roll)
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How can this be?


> Marlon,
> 
> Please explain how the information on this website contradicts either of 
> those 2 thoughts.
> 
> Regards,
> Dawn DiPietro
> 
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>> http://www.internettrafficreport.com/
>>
>> I thought America was running behind the rest of the world in broadband!
>>
>> And I thought most of Asia was wired with ftth and the latest in 
>> wireless technologies!
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
>> 1999!
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
> 
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RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

[Rick Harnish]

Mike,

I tried calling the toll free number we set up a few years ago and it went
to someone else.  All calls should go to John Scrivner's office at MVN.net
for now (618) 244-6868.  Emails can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The will be
held for moderation but I will get to them as soon as I can.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:39 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

Can anybody provide the address and phone number for WISPA?  I did not find
it on the website.

Thanks

Mike

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RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

[Rick Harnish]

1 Dr. Park Road, Suite H1
PO Box 1582
Mt. Vernon, IL 62864

That is the address that is on my business card we made a couple years ago.
It seems like Scriv may have moved his office since then though, you better
confirm with him.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:44 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

I was looking for the mailing address.  I will pass on the phone number for
Scriv.  Thanks

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:50 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

Mike,

I tried calling the toll free number we set up a few years ago and it went
to someone else.  All calls should go to John Scrivner's office at MVN.net
for now (618) 244-6868.  Emails can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The will be
held for moderation but I will get to them as soon as I can.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:39 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

Can anybody provide the address and phone number for WISPA?  I did not find
it on the website.

Thanks

Mike

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RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

[Rick Harnish]

Good Idea, Mr. Larsen will get on it! :P

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:00 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

Rick, thanks,
I went to mvn.net and used his address there.  Thanks for looking into ti,
maybe we shold add that info to the wispa.org website?

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:53 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

1 Dr. Park Road, Suite H1
PO Box 1582
Mt. Vernon, IL 62864

That is the address that is on my business card we made a couple years ago.
It seems like Scriv may have moved his office since then though, you better
confirm with him.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:44 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

I was looking for the mailing address.  I will pass on the phone number for
Scriv.  Thanks

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:50 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

Mike,

I tried calling the toll free number we set up a few years ago and it went
to someone else.  All calls should go to John Scrivner's office at MVN.net
for now (618) 244-6868.  Emails can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The will be
held for moderation but I will get to them as soon as I can.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Delp
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:39 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA mailing address and phone number

Can anybody provide the address and phone number for WISPA?  I did not find
it on the website.

Thanks

Mike

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RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

[Rick Harnish]

John and Frannie,

We do not have any subscribers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.  I
sure don't ever recall hearing from an operator up there.  I'm going to post
this to the isp-wireless list as well.  Maybe there is an North Dakota
operator on that list.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:18 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

Anyone out there a WISP in North Dakota? If yes then please send an 
email off to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frannie is a great gal 
and she can help you to help WISPs and our customers with legislative 
efforts. If you make contact please let us know what work you guys do 
together.
Many thanks,
Scriv


 Original Message 
Subject:North Dakota
Date:   Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:49 -0400
From:   Wellings, Frannie (Dorgan) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Hi John,

Do you have any WISPs in North Dakota who are members of WISPA?

Hope you're doing well!!

Best,

Frannie

***

Frannie Wellings

Office of Senator Byron Dorgan
322 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2551/ fax (202) 224-1193


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RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

[Rick Harnish]

Ryan will you please contact Frannie then.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

Rick Harnish wrote:
> John and Frannie,
> 
> We do not have any subscribers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
I
> sure don't ever recall hearing from an operator up there.  I'm going to
post
> this to the isp-wireless list as well.  Maybe there is an North Dakota
> operator on that list.
> 
> Rick Harnish
> President
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 260-827-2482
> Founding Member of WISPA
> 
> 
We are in ND ( and MN ) right along the border

Ryan

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of John Scrivner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:18 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]
> 
> Anyone out there a WISP in North Dakota? If yes then please send an 
> email off to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frannie is a great gal 
> and she can help you to help WISPs and our customers with legislative 
> efforts. If you make contact please let us know what work you guys do 
> together.
> Many thanks,
> Scriv
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  North Dakota
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:49 -0400
> From: Wellings, Frannie (Dorgan)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Do you have any WISPs in North Dakota who are members of WISPA?
> 
> Hope you're doing well!!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Frannie
> 
> ***
> 
> Frannie Wellings
> 
> Office of Senator Byron Dorgan
> 322 Hart Senate Office Building
> Washington, D.C. 20510
> (202) 224-2551/ fax (202) 224-1193
> 
> 

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RE: [WISPA] Pac Wireless Antennas

[Rick Harnish]

I have used 2 of them so far.  I asked Jack Unger about them after I had the
first one in place.  I haven't had any issues with about 20 clients on each
sector so far.  I doubt if I have tested the capacity yet though.  Below are
the comments from his response to my thread.

The thread started on or about May 16th.  Called: 180* sector choices



Rick,

Here's what I see that's good about the Pac Wireless antenna:

1. The 3-in-1 design may be the only solution where only one
antenna-mounting space exists on a tower.

2. The inclusion of electrical downtilt will minimize overshooting
customers.

3. The inclusion of null fill will minimize connectivity problems with
customers located very close to the tower.

4. The 15 dBi gain is in the appropriate and usable range.

5. The weight (14 lbs) will make the antenna easy to raise and mount.

6. The price range ($700) is moderate considering that you're really getting
three sector antennas in one.

Here's what I see that will need special consideration and planning.

1. The front-to-back ratio is only 15 dB. This is low compared to the 30 dB
that I usually recommend for high-quality antennas.

2. The sector-to-sector isolation is 35 dB. When compared to the 83 dB of
isolation that 10 feet of vertical separation would provide, 35 dB is a lot
less.

In summary, this appears to be a good antenna system with the one limitation
that the somewhat low f/b ratio and sector-to-sector isolation will combine
to place the burden for good AP-to-AP isolation on the quality of the
co-located access point receivers and the quality of the overall AP/site
design. Receivers with poor or moderate selectivity (in other words,
receivers on Wi-Fi cards) will be overloaded by the other AP transmitters
with the result being a throughput reduction that begins when traffic levels
increase. The more traffic, the more missed incoming packets, the more
retransmissions and the more throughput reduction. The result will be that
the site reaches saturation sooner and won't handle as much traffic as a
site where the AP receivers are not being overloaded.

The solution (other than to use really expensive equipment which has good
receiver filtering and selectivity built in) is to again use single-channel
bandpass filters on each AP. These will reduce the level of signal from the
co-located adjacent-channel AP transmitters and permit the site to handle
more traffic (reach saturation later) than a site where the receivers ARE
being overloaded.

Finally, in addition to the above, it's important not to "defeat" the
antenna isolation by letting RF energy "leak" directly from AP to AP either
on the ground or from PC-card to PC card. Proper shielding and grounding
will help to maintain that hard-won receiver-to-transmitter isolation
resulting in a high-performance, high-traffic handling, reliable, profitable
site.

jack


Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jory Privett
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Pac Wireless Antennas

I was wondering if anyone has used one of these before and if they are worth

the money?
http://www.pacwireless.com/products/SO24.shtml

Jory Privett
WCCS


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RE: [WISPA] Voicemail to Text/email

[Rick Harnish]

I assume you can set call forwarding to Callwave to trigger if your phone is
unanswered after so many rings but before it goes into my normal voicemail
box.  Is there an audio clip that has the actual voice message as well?  It
would be nice to verify confusing texts with the actual voicemail.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Voicemail to Text/email

I signed up for their free beta after reading this - and it works pretty
good.  I set it to text message the voicemail, and it was accurate enough to
understand the voicemail.  Except one little glitch, I said:

This is a test of callwave

And it thought I said:

This is a test is always

But other than that, it seems to be neat.  I hate checking voicemail so this
should alleviate the problem now.

Thanks for the tip.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Justin S. Wilson
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:19 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Voicemail to Text/email

Found this interesting:

http://www.callwave.com/landing/vtxt.asp

 

Vtxt <http://www.callwave.com/landing/vtxt.asp> , a new
service from CallWave that transcribes voicemails and sends them to you as
text messages or e-mails. All you have to do is forward your calls to a
unique phone number supplied by CallWave. Your messages are processed by an
automated speech-recognition engine and sent to you in about four or five
minutes. You can choose to receive the transcriptions as text messages,
e-mails or on the CallWave website.

 

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Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services

WEB: http://www.mtin.net

WEB: http://www.metrospan.net

WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com

 

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[WISPA] Test

[Rick Harnish]

Just testing

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA

 

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[WISPA] Test Again

[Rick Harnish]

Just doing more testing

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA

 

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RE: [WISPA] email for Kris Towney

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:33 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] email for Kris Towney

Anyone?

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145


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[WISPA] Michael Erskine

[Rick Harnish]

The board will review the posts between Michael Erskine and Peter Rad this
weekend and determine what action is necessary and appropriate.  We cannot
allow one member to run other member’s out of WISPA but we do need to follow
procedure.  Michael, this isn’t the first time the board has had to
reprimand your list behavior.  This is the third time.  Please address the
board at HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] before we make
any decision.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish


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RE: [WISPA] Michael Erskine

[Rick Harnish]

Michael Erskine will not be penalized for his post.  We did not find
anything threatening although his tone was rather condescending and
disrespectful towards Peter.  Folks, we have asked plenty of times to keep
political commentary off of this list.  Take it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Be
respectful to other members and avoid having arguments or stimulating
arguments.  There are members in WISPA from a wide assortment of backgrounds
and areas of the country.  There is no reason to boast your credentials over
someone else.  It really has no use or relevance to this listserv.  If you
have to type something like that, to feel good about yourself, then feel
free to remove yourself from this list.  Those people who "are never wrong"
and keep threads going forever trying to prove their point, waste a lot of
bandwidth, our member's time and patience.  I have been approached by many
lurkers of this list that cannot believe how unprofessional some people can
get.  While I tend to take a fairly light approach in moderating this list
in respect for the "freedom of speech", I do have to keep WISPA's best
interest in mind.  

Michael, I have had to slap your hand before for your political commentary
and belligerent replies.  You bordered on another suspension this time.  I
ask you to not "walk the line" so closely.  WISPA is an association that
depends on its membership dues to survive.  We will not allow one member to
diminish our ranks because they do not wish to follow the list rules of
behavior.  However, WISPA also appreciates the many hours you have devoted
to the CALEA committee.  Most people do not understand how much effort you
have put into that committee.  For that I commend you.  

Peter has also devoted a lot of his time to our efforts, recently joining
the Promotion Committee and has been a very influential and a wise counselor
to our board the past year.  He is versed in the ISP industry with years of
experience.  We also commend his efforts.  

I ask that both of you ignore each other's posts.  I am not about to make
you guys be friends, just that you don't badger each other in the public
arena, especially the WISPA publicly archived listserv any further.  The
rest of us really don't care about your political differences of opinion.
Debate it privately or not at all.  

Peter, I am not going to remove you from this list as you have too much to
offer to others.  If you feel you must leave, you may do it yourself by
following the links provided at the bottom of the page.  I respect you and
whatever decision you make.  I hope it is a decision to stay. 

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:33 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Michael Erskine

The board will review the posts between Michael Erskine and Peter Rad this
weekend and determine what action is necessary and appropriate.  We cannot
allow one member to run other member’s out of WISPA but we do need to follow
procedure.  Michael, this isn’t the first time the board has had to
reprimand your list behavior.  This is the third time.  Please address the
board at HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] before we make
any decision.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish


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RE: [WISPA] Contract Installers

[Rick Harnish]

Ron,

Please be patient.  John sent his secretary an email asking her to prepare
the copy.  He is out of touch for the next two days working on some
important projects.  I'm sure he will get it to you as quickly as he can.

Rick Harnish

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ron Wallace
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:48 PM
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hey john how Do I access this document, Thanks 
Ron Wallace

>-Original Message-
>From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 05:43 PM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Cc: 'Dori Crow'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers
>
>Will do. Dori, please send me an electronic version of our contractor 
>agreement so I can share it with the WISPA members on our 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. I will forward it once you email it to me 
>directly.
>Thanks,
>Scriv
>
>
>CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
>> Scriv, 
>> On the member list, would other members share their contract for
"contract
>> installers" please.
>>
>> Chuck Profito
>> 209-988-7388
>> CV-ACCESS, INC
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Providing High Speed Broadband 
>> to Rural Central California
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of John Scrivner
>> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:11 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers
>>
>>
>> Find the guys in your area who do Dish and Direc TV installs. They will 
>> do the job for $75 to $100.
>> Scriv
>>
>>
>> Ron Wallace wrote:
>> 
>>> To All,
>>>
>>> Again I would lik to use some contract installers. Anyone know any? I 
>>> spoke with an Indiana WISP last year, but can't find his e-mail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Wallace
>>> Hahnron, Inc. 
>>> 220 S. Jackson Dt. 
>>> Addison, MI 49220 
>>>
>>> Phone: (517)547-8410
>>> Mobile: (517)605-4542 
>>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
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RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

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John,

We sell Dish but gave up on DirecTV about 6 months ago.  We have also
installed Wildblue for two years now.  I can put you in contact with a large
distributor of Dish/DirecTv in the Midwest if you want to pursue it.

Rick


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Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably
be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. 
Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about
becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV
industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do
this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others
doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this.
Any information is much appreciated.
All the best,
John Scrivner


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RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

[Rick Harnish]

John,

We sell Dish but gave up on DirecTV about 6 months ago.  We have also
installed Wildblue for two years now.  I can put you in contact with a large
distributor of Dish/DirecTv in the Midwest if you want to pursue it.

Rick


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Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:55 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably
be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. 
Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about
becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV
industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do
this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others
doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this.
Any information is much appreciated.
All the best,
John Scrivner


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RE: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas

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I want to say his name was Jeremy but I may be mistaken.  It seems like Jeff
Booher had a buddy down there, but maybe it was Bermuda.

Rick

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Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:48 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] wireless in the Bahamas

There are several.  This is one I know of personally:

http://www.abacoinet.com/

Also, there was a guy on these lists who was from there, and I'm drawing a
complete blank on his name.  Someone will remember him, I'm sure.

Jeff




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I am curious if anyone on the list is familiar with wireless internet
service in the Bahamas.

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[WISPA] See what we put up with!

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I thought everyone might get a kick out of this trouble ticket.

 


Comments: 

customer reported that the internet has been offline on Sunday, for the past
2 weeks. turns out the panel is on an outlet controlled by the light switch.
I had him move the POE to a "constant hot" outlet, and also walked him
through the process of rebooting the panel, in case he's in this situation
again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[WISPA] Form 477 Due Tuesday

[Rick Harnish]

These forms are due Sept 4th.

 

The form required for this filing is at HYPERLINK
"http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477.xls"http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/4
77.xls and the detailed reporting instructions are at HYPERLINK
"http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf"http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form
477/477instr.pdf.  The required Certification Statement is at HYPERLINK
"http://www.fcc.gov/wcb/iatd/form477/certificationstatement.pdf"http://www.f
cc.gov/wcb/iatd/form477/certificationstatement.pdf or can be found on page
14 of the instructions file.  A set of frequently asked questions (FAQs) is
available at HYPERLINK
"http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html"http://www.fcc.gov/bro
adband/broadband_data_faq.html.  

 

IMPORTANT REMINDERS FOR FCC FORM 477 FILERS:

 

1)  If you do not see your "holding company" name listed within the
drop-down list for Cover Page question #3 or if your holding company name
has changed or edits need to be made to the holding company name, please
contact Suzanne Mendez via email at HYPERLINK
"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] or directly by phone
at (202) 418-0941.Please use the drop-down box to select the appropriate
holding company name.  This will make it easier for all affiliated entities
to use exactly the same name - including punctuation - when answering Cover
Page question #3.   

 

2)  For spreadsheet rows where you are reporting data in Form 477 column
(a), please be sure to completely answer all the other Form 477 questions
across that row - for example, Form 477 questions (b) through (j) in Part
I.A and in Part II of the form - placing a 0% in data cells where a zero
applies versus leaving that data cell blank.  But keep in mind that you may
leave the entire row blank if the correct answer to Form 477 column (a) is
zero.

 

3)   If a revised Form 477 is submitted after the filing due date of
September 4, 2007, it should not show "Original Filing" as the answer to
Cover Page question #7.  Instead, that answer should be changed from
Original Filing to Revised Filing1.  Please make note of the Example
filename provided on the Cover Page and save the form using the filename as
indicated by the Example. 

 

If you have any questions about how to complete and/or file Form 477 after
you have reviewed the reporting instructions and Form 477 FAQs, or if you
are not able to download the form, please direct your questions to HYPERLINK
"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] or to a member of the FCC Form 477
Team at (202) 418-0940.  Thank you.

Sincerely,
Suzanne Mendez
FCC Form 477 Team Member

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish

 


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RE: [WISPA] In support of legal operation

[Rick Harnish]

Zack and Ralph,

The WISPA Board encourages all members to help develop our Association.  As
you know the WISPA Board is made up of WISP Operators just like yourself and
I'm sure you know how precious our time is.  When we go to the FCC with an
idea, we have to write a document requesting a change in policy.  The FCC is
not going to do our job for us.  I suggest you will both be much more
successful in your pleas for a Policy Stance Doctrine on the use of FCC
certified equipment, if you type a formal request and suggested text for
this stance and submit it to the board for either a Board vote or a Member
vote.  

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Behalf Of Zack Kneisley
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] In support of legal operation

John, List.. anyone else really.

I was trying not to get into a discussion at a "12 year old level". I merely
support anyone who feels that they want to change something, through a
structured method. Although I agree on this particular issue, making a
statement  "look at our code of ethics" does not accomplish that Ralph
requested.

Is there no structure in WISPA? Is there no means to petition an
organization that supposedly "represents all wisps" to entertain the mans
request? Is there no sturcture in WISPA that is aimed towards ratifying or
creating a documents.

I think what it comes down to is a few simple questions.

Does a member of WISPA have the right to request such a public stance?
Does WISPA have a means of debation these requests?
Is there even a process in place that could lead to a document such as Ralph
requested?

If WISPA is not open to have a democratic way to represent the individual
wisps, then this whole debate has no merit. If an individual that comes to
the table with an idea, getys shutout by one person What type of
organization is WISPA.

I've thought of joining WISPA on several occasions, but I have yet to see it
as an organization for WISPS, after all, given this thread, it doesn't seem
that there is not any self governing process to ask for anything. Unless I'm
seriously missing something, there are no processes in place that allow a
member or non member to bring a topic to the table, and for it to be
considered as an action that WISPA should take. To myself, WISPA looks like
an organization controlled by a handful of individuals, not by the WISPS it
is supposed to, in its own Code of Ethecs Attempt to represent.

WISPA's Goals see:http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=6

6. Political lobbying group – Unified voice for the WISP industry

How can this be acheived when the discussion turns to name calling and
comparing the thoughts of others to 12 year olds.


**
WISPA, at least make an official statement to Ralph. Either, stating that
WISPA, (not John), believes that WISPA' ethics statement achieves the same
goals as Ralphs request, or, that WISPA is just plain rejecting the idea -
with an explanation why..

**

Now, can you understand why their are people that would passionately get
behind WISPA, if only an adult discussion, debate, and decision be made.
Where is the leadership that makes these calls.. who makes these decisions?

I'm sorry for obvious grammatical mistakes and typos, 4:00 AM comes fast.

Zack



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RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

[Rick Harnish]

Ralph,

I have placed you on moderation.  I will approve or disapprove all of your
posts to this public list.  I expect your cooperation in this matter.  By
the way, we did make a change to Article 2 of the Code of Ethics this
morning in our board meeting in response to your pleas.  I'm sure it isn't
enough to satisfy you but it is the best we can do at this time.  WISPA
represents all WISPs and will seek to guide them into compliance through
various means.  This will be continued discussion with the FCC on rule
modification, pressuring vendors to certify all systems and hardware and
educating the members on the importance of certification.  This will not be
a quick process and may take years to accomplish.  I hope you realize that
your comments are driving more people away from WISPA than they are
educating.  Please keep your comments and discussions civil.  While you may
be completely legal with your compliance, your tact and lack of politeness
on the list is disgraceful, thus in my opinion, you are no better than any
non-compliant WISP in our fold.  If you want to be perceived as a
professional then you need to start acting professional.

I have not moderated your posts on the member's only list as it is a private
list.  However, I expect the same degree of proper decorum on that list as
well.

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish
List Moderator

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:25 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Yes, the truth does hurt...
Maybe Mikrotik can start making a cell phone repeater to add to the product
line.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful..

Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him back
to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment.

Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list _usefull_
and _relevant_ to my work.

ryan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Amen!
But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They were
written for all the OTHER people.

Ralph


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ty Carter 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are
homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front...

Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating or
broadcasting of a cell providers frequency.

And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not.

1.  You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of
2.  You don't own the freq.
3.  You don't have the subscriber

Shall I go on...

Ty Carter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Cc: Jack Daniel
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Be prepared...

In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical
AND legal side of this.


- Original Message - 
From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


> Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before?
I 
> have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but
have 
> no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna
and 
> they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to
be 
> able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before
and 
> what kind of results they have had? TIA.
>
> Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check
> out www.info-ed.com for information.
>


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RE: [WISPA Members] communication (was Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.)

[Rick Harnish]

Correction, I have made the needed revisions to the webpage code of ethics
as of last night.  Unless there is further discussion about other changes,
we are complete for now.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of John Scrivner
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] communication (was Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone
Repeaters.)

The revisions to the Code of Ethics are not completed yet. We are 
redefining the terms under which we will all act and behave as a 
condition of membership in WISPA. Our Code of Ethics is the only logical 
place I know of for us to state that we will support the following of 
all laws. Once the revisions are completed we will send a public 
statement along with a copy of the updated text.  Our Board Meeting 
minutes are being  put together now so we can send those to all members 
for review via this list. All WISPA members are subscribed to this 
list.  Let us know if we are missing anything else here.
All the best,
Scriv
 

Matt Liotta wrote:
> In a email addressing Ralph directly that went to the list at large I 
> learned there was a WISPA Board meeting and a Code of Ethics change. 
> This seems like a terrible way to communicate such information to our 
> members especially since not all members are on the public list.
>
> -Matt
>
> Rick Harnish wrote:
>> Ralph,
>>
>> I have placed you on moderation.  I will approve or disapprove all of 
>> your
>> posts to this public list.  I expect your cooperation in this 
>> matter.  By
>> the way, we did make a change to Article 2 of the Code of Ethics this
>> morning in our board meeting in response to your pleas.  I'm sure it 
>> isn't
>> enough to satisfy you but it is the best we can do at this time.  WISPA
>> represents all WISPs and will seek to guide them into compliance through
>> various means.  This will be continued discussion with the FCC on rule
>> modification, pressuring vendors to certify all systems and hardware and
>> educating the members on the importance of certification.  This will 
>> not be
>> a quick process and may take years to accomplish.  I hope you realize 
>> that
>> your comments are driving more people away from WISPA than they are
>> educating.  Please keep your comments and discussions civil.  While 
>> you may
>> be completely legal with your compliance, your tact and lack of 
>> politeness
>> on the list is disgraceful, thus in my opinion, you are no better 
>> than any
>> non-compliant WISP in our fold.  If you want to be perceived as a
>> professional then you need to start acting professional.
>>
>> I have not moderated your posts on the member's only list as it is a 
>> private
>> list.  However, I expect the same degree of proper decorum on that 
>> list as
>> well.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Rick Harnish
>> List Moderator
>
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[WISPA] Committee Chairs

[Rick Harnish]

I need task each committee chair to write a brief synopsis of what the
committee’s focus is , current projects being worked on and future project
plans so that I can add it to the website.  Please submit these articles to
me by next Wednesday.

 

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RE: [WISPA] Committee Roll Call

[Rick Harnish]

Jeff,

I just want you to send me an email offlist letting me know what committees
you are on.  I'm not sure why there were hyperlinks on this list email.  I
cut and pasted from the webpage, I should have sent it in plain text.  Sorry
about that.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Committee Roll Call

I'm probably the only dense one...but how do I respond?  If you want me to
post a comment, I'll need a user name/password.  

Jeff 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] Committee Roll Call

I need to document the various committee members for the website.  Please
respond to HYPERLINK
"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are a
member of any of the following committees or wish to join one.  I would like
all responses by Sunday evening.

 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=65"WISPA Committees 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=73"700 Mhz Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=71"CALEA Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=66"Certification Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=70"FCC Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=72"Promotions Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=69"Wholesale Committee 

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[WISPA] Committees

[Rick Harnish]

I have posted the committee rosters to the HYPERLINK
"http://www.wispa.org/"WISPA website.  If I have overlooked you or assigned
you to a committee you don’t feel you are on, please let me know and I will
make the changes.  If anyone wants to volunteer to be on a committee, we are
seeking additional volunteers.  This is your chance to help make WISPA what
you want it to be.

 

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[Rick Harnish]

I need to document the various committee members for the website.  Please
respond to HYPERLINK
"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are a
member of any of the following committees or wish to join one.  I would like
all responses by Sunday evening.

 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=65"WISPA Committees 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=73"700 Mhz Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=71"CALEA Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=66"Certification Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=70"FCC Committee 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=72"Promotions Committee 
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RE: [WISPA] Is this about Calea?

[Rick Harnish]

Kris Twomey posted the following on the FISPA list yesterday concerning the
same question.

>From a quick look, it doesn't impact CALEA. Subpoenas under CALEA are always
signed by a judge (or at least should be!).

Kris

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NYTIMES.com

September 7, 2007


  Judge Voids F.B.I. Tool Granted by Patriot Act

By ADAM LIPTAK 


A federal judge yesterday struck down the parts of the recently revised 
USA Patriot Act that authorized the Federal Bureau of Investigation 
 
to use informal secret demands called national security letters to 
compel companies to provide customer records.

The law allowed the F.B.I. not only to force communications companies, 
including telephone and Internet providers, to turn over the records 
without court authorization, but also to forbid the companies to tell 
the customers or anyone else what they had done. Under the law, enacted 
last year, the ability of the courts to review challenges to the ban on 
disclosures was quite limited.

The judge, Victor Marrero of the Federal District Court in Manhattan, 
ruled that the measure violated the First Amendment and the separation 
of powers guarantee.

Judge Marrero said he feared that the law could be the first step in a 
series of intrusions into the judiciary's role that would be "the 
legislative equivalent of breaking and entering, with an ominous free 
pass to the hijacking of constitutional values."

According to a report from the Justice Department's inspector general in 
March, the F.B.I. issued about 143,000 requests through national 
security letters from 2003 to 2005. The report found that the bureau had 
often used the letters improperly and sometimes illegally.

Yesterday's decision was a sequel to rulings by Judge Marrero in 2004 
and a federal judge in Connecticut in 2005, both of which enjoined an 
earlier version of the law. Congress responded last year by amending the 
law in reauthorizing it.

The earlier version of the measure barred all recipients of the letters 
from disclosing them. The amended law changed the ban slightly, now 
requiring the F.B.I. to certify in each case that disclosure might harm 
national security, criminal investigations, diplomacy or people's safety.

The law authorized courts to review those assertions, but under 
extremely deferential standards. In some cases, judges were required to 
treat F.B.I. statements "as conclusive unless the court finds that the 
certification was made in bad faith."

In yesterday's decision, Judge Marrero said that the revisions to the 
law did not go far enough in addressing the flaws identified in the 
earlier decisions and that in fact they created additional 
constitutional problems.

Recipients of the letters, he wrote, remain "effectively barred from 
engaging in any discussion regarding their experiences and opinions 
related to the government's use" of the letters. Indeed, the very 
identity of the Internet service provider that brought this case remains 
secret.

The judge said the F.B.I. might be entitled to prohibit disclosures for 
a limited time but afterward "must bear the burden of going to court to 
suppress the speech." Putting that burden on recipients of the letters, 
he said, violates the First Amendment.

The decision found that the secrecy requirement was so intertwined with 
the rest of the provision concerning national security letters that the 
entire provision was unconstitutional.

Judge Marrero used his strongest language and evocative historical 
analogies in criticizing the aspect of the new law that imposed 
restrictions on the courts' ability to review the F.B.I.'s determinations.

"When the judiciary lowers its guard on the Constitution, it opens the 
door to far-reaching invasions of privacy," Judge Marrero wrote, 
pointing to discredited Supreme Court 
 
decisions endorsing the internment of Japanese-Americans during World 
War II and racially segregated railroad cars in the 19th century.

"The only thing left of the judiciary's function for those Americans in 
that experience," he wrote, "was a symbolic act: to sing a requiem and 
lower the flag on the Bill of Rights."

Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union 
, 
which represented the Internet company, said Judge M

[WISPA] FW: Launch of LoKT Telecom/Internet Blog- www.ispcleclaw.com

[Rick Harnish]

I have added a link to Kris Twomey's new Blog to the WISPA homepage.
Judging from today’s post, we need to keep our eye open for an upcoming NPRM
on possible use of 2155-2175 mHz.  See excerpt below:  

 

“The FCC refused to grant M2Z's request for a (basically free) national
license in the 2155-2175 MHz spectrum range. Instead, the FCC will open a
formal rulemaking seeking comments on proposed uses of the spectrum. The
spectrum could be sold at auction, or possibly opened to unlicensed use.”

 

Subject: Launch of LoKT Telecom/Internet Blog- www.ispcleclaw.com

 

First I'd like to thank everybody who's been emailing asking what 

happened to the LoKT newsletter. I was surprised how many people enjoyed 

it. After much thought and some procrastination, I decided to officially 

retire the newsletter. In it's place, I have just launched a blog at 

www.ispcleclaw.com. My hope is that the blog format will allow for more 

timely delivery of information than the monthly newsletter did. I'm just 

starting, so if anybody has any thoughts about what would make the blog 

more helpful, please let me know before I get stuck in my ways.

 

Kris

 

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RE: [WISPA] Google Coverage Map WAS: You're all going to lose ( I hope not)

[Rick Harnish]

Google Earth Plus

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Coverage Map WAS: You're all going to lose ( I
hope not)

How did you make that coverage map in Google.  First I've seen like that and

I like it.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Forrest W. Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] You're all going to lose ( I hope not)


> Clint Ricker wrote:
>> Not to be overly provocative here, but why are you paying $60/meg?
> I'd be more than happy to pay less.   Please let me know where I can buy a

> DS3 or OC3 delivered somewhere within my footprint or at most only a 
> couple of radio hops away for less than the $50-75 I'm paying now (right 
> now I have two full DS3's - one is around $50/meg and the other is around 
> $75/meg).
>
> If you're domain is correctly registered, you're ~50 miles from Atlanta. 
> I'm ~400-600  miles from Salt Lake City, Seattle, or  Denver - take your 
> pick.   I'm *lucky* to get it at $50/meg.   If I was paying loop, it would

> be more.
> -forrest
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RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

[Rick Harnish]

Did they fail because of the immature technology or a failed business plan?
Would the more mature technology available today have made an impact on
Metricom-Ricochets ultimate success or failure?

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Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:49 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

Yes they have.
Metricom-Ricochet. They failed.

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:54 PM
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I take it that nobody has ever built a 900MHz NLOS mesh network 
before.  Which is not a good sign to me.  That's a sign that my idea 
probably won't work.

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RE: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

[Rick Harnish]

George,

I have read this email three times and still can't determine whether you are
sincerely asking a question(s) or whether you are stirring the pot here.
Please clarify professionally.  I actually have been enjoying Matt's posts
this morning.  I found them to be very informative.  While we don't purchase
anything from Cogent, I still like to have my thumb on the pulse of the
whole industry, from top to bottom.  

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

Widely known "where" Matt?

I'd like to know how you guys get the pulse of what everyone is thinking.

As for being the red headed step child nobody likes Mike, Do you think 
they actually "like" each other, especially one as aggressive as Cogent 
who is making the others drop their pricing?





Matt Liotta wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> Is anyone using Cogent as a bandwidth provider?  Pros and cons?
>>
> Cogent is awful and widely known for it. Nevertheless, the do have an 
> important place in the industry. If you use them for an upstream make 
> sure you have another one and understand enough about BGP to get around 
> the traffic engineering they do.
> 
> 
> -Matt
>

 
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RE: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

[Rick Harnish]

That clarifies it.  I just wasn't following your line of questions as they
seemed rather vague.  However, as I said, I'm not very acquainted with
Cogent.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:45 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent

I'm very serious.
I've read it over and over again on the various list from those who 
resell other bandwidth bashing cogent.

It's a stratergy, if you sell high, bash the low.
makes sense.

So if Matt says Cogent is the worse, I want him to back it up with facts.

I can point to some facts that say otherwise. Thier revenues increase 
every quarter, and their bit price goes down.

How can everyone not like cogent, when their sales keeps going up?

Or why do some people not like cogent?




Rick Harnish wrote:
> George,
> 
> I have read this email three times and still can't determine whether you
are
> sincerely asking a question(s) or whether you are stirring the pot here.
> Please clarify professionally.  I actually have been enjoying Matt's posts
> this morning.  I found them to be very informative.  While we don't
purchase
> anything from Cogent, I still like to have my thumb on the pulse of the
> whole industry, from top to bottom.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternate transport providers, Cogent
> 
> Widely known "where" Matt?
> 
> I'd like to know how you guys get the pulse of what everyone is thinking.
> 
> As for being the red headed step child nobody likes Mike, Do you think 
> they actually "like" each other, especially one as aggressive as Cogent 
> who is making the others drop their pricing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>> Matt wrote:
>>> Is anyone using Cogent as a bandwidth provider?  Pros and cons?
>>>
>> Cogent is awful and widely known for it. Nevertheless, the do have an 
>> important place in the industry. If you use them for an upstream make 
>> sure you have another one and understand enough about BGP to get around 
>> the traffic engineering they do.
>>
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>

>  
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RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

[Rick Harnish]

Clint,

Your solution as you stated it has no place on the WISPA list.  We will not
allow this kind of (presumed) advice to penetrate our list. I'm referring to
point No. 3 in particular.  It goes against the WISPA Code of Ethics and
against FCC policy.  I ask that you refrain from making suggestions like
this again.

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Clint Ricker
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

Dustin from one of the WISPs down in Florida related a couple of years
back the following solution that had worked for him in such
situations:

1. Go to the offending provider
2. Relate to them that, if they proceed, they will drive your customers away
3. After which point, you will have nothing better to do with your
wireless gear than to turn it around and blast their APs.

Is there legal recourse?  Perhaps, but civil would be the only way
that I can see...not to mention that time / expense / trouble spent in
such a pursuit is not to be understated.  See a good telecom lawyer if
you decide to head down that route; if you are having a major problem,
then the money spent getting their viewpoint on the matter is worth
it

A well drawn up cease and desist letter from a good attorney (if you
are out in the boonies, don't use a local guy, pay for a telecom
lawyer).  It is probably bluffing because I doubt you have the
resources for a full on litigation, but, then again, they probably
don't either...

Remember, one of the liabilities of unlicensed is, well, that it is
unlicensed.  Which means you don't actually have rights to anything.
Which means, as is FCC policy, that "take interference" is policy...

There are reasons why companies are bidding in the GDP of a small
country to get licensed over unlicensed



On 9/12/07, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Issue is that if you are using legal 2.4 equipment and the new guy is
> using legal 2.4 equipment, the fcc is not going to get involved.
>
> or any unlicensed frequency
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
> > No need to get into complicated legal territory. If you can prove to a
> > jury that a company is not complying with FCC rules in a way that is
> > interfering with your business then you can certainly win a tortuous
> > interference suit against the company in question regardless of whether
> > the FCC will commence enforcement. Additionally, you should immediately
> > send the company a cease and desist letter with a deadline. After the
> > deadline you file a compliant with state court and ask for an injunction
> >  to have the court force the company to cease their interference. A
> > couple hours of your attorney's time should be able to get both done. If
> > you have to litigate the hours will go through the roof.
> >
> > -Matt
> >


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[WISPA] WISPA Files Comments on NRPM 03-201

[Rick Harnish]

I have posted the WISPA comments, primarily written by Jack Unger with the
assistance of the FCC Committee to the WISPA homepage.  Feel free to review
both the HYPERLINK
"http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-117A1.pdf"NPRM and
the HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=89"Comments.  We encourage all
WISP operators to file their own comments as well.  Email comments can be
sent at HYPERLINK
"http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/email.html"http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/email.ht
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RE: [WISPA] Multiradio Mesh Equipment

[Rick Harnish]

I am interested as well.  I have contact info on my salesman from Bel Air
but we haven't purchased anything yet.  I can forward it to you if you would
like.

Rick Harnish

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Multiradio Mesh Equipment

List,

Anyone has experience with multiradio (3-4 radios)mesh units.  Bel Air,
Mesh Dynamics, Strix? Would like to hear your opinions on them

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[WISPA] Links on WISPA Webpage

[Rick Harnish]

I have started an easy link method of following current and past NPRMs at
the FCC.  On the side of the WISPA Homepage under FCC Committee you will see
links to current NPRMs, Public Comments, WISPA Comments and a link to submit
your own comments on NPRM’s that are open for comment.  I will try to stay
current with this information, if I fall behind, someone let me know.  It is
work in progress so I may be missing a few NPRM’s like 700 Mhz.  It will
look like this: 

 ·  HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=87"FCC NPRM's 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=98"04-186 TV Whitespaces 

*   HYPERLINK
"http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/Upload?hot_docket=1009000856%7C04-186%7CTV+Wh
ite+Spaces&Send=Continue"Submit Comments Online 
*   HYPERLINK "http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi"Read
Public Comments 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=18"WISPA 04-186 Comments 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=93"07-164 2155-2175 MHz AWS
BAND 

*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=94"NPRM 

*   HYPERLINK
"http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-117A1.pdf"03-201
902-928 MHz Rule Modification 

*   HYPERLINK "http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi"Read
Public Comments 
*   HYPERLINK "http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=89"WISPA 03-201 Comments 

Respectfully,

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RE: [WISPA] ISPCON - WHOSE GOING?

[Rick Harnish]

I believe at least 6 out of the 7 Board Members will be in attendance.  We
hope more of you decide to attend!

 

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:11 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON - WHOSE GOING?

 

This will be my first ISPCON.

 

-Matt

 

Mac Dearman wrote:

> I thought I would see who is planning to attend ISPCON?

> 

> We need to make a plan! 

> 

> 

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> 

> Mac

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[WISPA] Outstanding Operator Nomination

[Rick Harnish]

The WISPA Board has decided to award an Annual WISPA Outstanding Wireless
Operator Award at the fall ISPCON.  We are now accepting nominations for
this years award.  Please submit your nominees to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] by 5 pm Tuesday.  Include a brief description why
you think your nominee is deserving of this award.

 

We will also be awarding an Outstanding WISPA Contributor Award.  This award
will be given to a principal  or associate member or vendor, who has helped
WISPA in some form during the past 12 months.  Nominations for this award
are also open and due Tuesday.

 

Respectfully,

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RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

[Rick Harnish]

Have you verified your information source with research or are you
suggesting we believe your third party "understanding"?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

They have submitted for several OET's from my understanding, for those
frequencies.


On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:52 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

> And speaking of misleading Jeff, you should do the basic diligence
> before reporting what is or is not available in the U.S. from any
> vendor. All are welcome to check who has what available at least in  
> the
> U.S. via this search. Jeff, if you are accurate, you'll see all these
> frequency options for versions on the OET equipment authorization
> search. Of the seven you list Jeff, only two are available. The  
> rest is
> just talk or a place mark on a future roadmap. See for yourself:
> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
>
>
> Patrick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:22 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum
>
> ...not misleading fluff, Airspan for example is shipping TODAY
> 802.16-2004
> compliant ( not wimax compliant, not that it matters considering
> there is
> no wimax interop for QOS, so really who cares anyways ) solutions in
>   1.4, 2.3, 2.5, 3.3-37, 5.4, 4.9, and 5.8ghz bands.
>
> -
> Jeff
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[WISPA] WISPA Shirts

[Rick Harnish]

We are considering getting some new WISPA shirts printed up for ISPCON.  If
anyone is interested, they will be nice button down shirts.  I don’t know
the price yet but will report back soon.  If you would like one, please send
me the sizes you would like and I will get them ordered, OFFLIST please.
The last shirts we got look like the attachment.  Also include color
preference.  I am going to get them all made in the same color and will take
the color that I get the most response from.  If you’re not going to ISPCON
but would still like a shirt, let me know that as well.

 

Thanks,

Rick Harnish


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RE: [WISPA] WISPA Shirts

[Rick Harnish]

OK, I just got back from the Shirt Shop.  These will be nice shirts! 
 
Five Star Performance Woven
Stain Release
No Fade
No Shrink
No Pill (fabric stays smooth)
No Wrinkle
60/40 Blend
Embroidered Logo
Short Sleeve
Colors Available White, Navy, Putty, Black

Price $42 plus $5 shipping if you will not be at ISPCON.  Please make
payment through Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I plan on having a drawing at
ISPCON to give away a couple shirts and I will probably have a few extra
made up.  However, get your orders in now.  I need to order them tomorrow.

Thanks,
Rick Harnish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:57 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Shirts

We are considering getting some new WISPA shirts printed up for ISPCON.  If
anyone is interested, they will be nice button down shirts.  I don’t know
the price yet but will report back soon.  If you would like one, please send
me the sizes you would like and I will get them ordered, OFFLIST please.
The last shirts we got look like the attachment.  Also include color
preference.  I am going to get them all made in the same color and will take
the color that I get the most response from.  If you’re not going to ISPCON
but would still like a shirt, let me know that as well.

 

Thanks,

Rick Harnish


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RE: [WISPA] WISPA Shirts

[Rick Harnish]

When making your paypal transaction, please put "WISPA Shirt Order" in the
Subject Line.

Thanks,
Rick

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA Shirts

OK, I just got back from the Shirt Shop.  These will be nice shirts! 
 
Five Star Performance Woven
Stain Release
No Fade
No Shrink
No Pill (fabric stays smooth)
No Wrinkle
60/40 Blend
Embroidered Logo
Short Sleeve
Colors Available White, Navy, Putty, Black

Price $42 plus $5 shipping if you will not be at ISPCON.  Please make
payment through Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I plan on having a drawing at
ISPCON to give away a couple shirts and I will probably have a few extra
made up.  However, get your orders in now.  I need to order them tomorrow.

Thanks,
Rick Harnish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:57 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Shirts

We are considering getting some new WISPA shirts printed up for ISPCON.  If
anyone is interested, they will be nice button down shirts.  I don’t know
the price yet but will report back soon.  If you would like one, please send
me the sizes you would like and I will get them ordered, OFFLIST please.
The last shirts we got look like the attachment.  Also include color
preference.  I am going to get them all made in the same color and will take
the color that I get the most response from.  If you’re not going to ISPCON
but would still like a shirt, let me know that as well.

 

Thanks,

Rick Harnish


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