Re: [WISPA] DNS Name Resolver for WISP

2016-06-23 Thread John J. Thomas
As an ISP, you might consider blocking malware sites. OpenDNS used to be free for anyone that wanted to use it, businesses included, but they changed their terms of service. What they told us was the free service used a database that didn't get updated very frequently, and filtered about

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread John J Thomas
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS compliant. John -Original Message- From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-08 Thread John J Thomas
I realize that many here hate the Cisco word, but all their radios are DFS compliant. John -Original Message- From: Art Stephens [mailto:asteph...@ptera.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 08:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700

[WISPA] Ubiquiti UniFi AP Pro

2013-06-27 Thread John J Thomas
Does anyone know where I can get one of these? I'm hearing 6-8 week back order? Otherwise, what other devices might be competitive? Needs to be 802.11 a/b/g/n Standard 802.11af POE Indoor model ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti UniFi AP Pro

2013-06-27 Thread John J Thomas
? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John J Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:13:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti UniFi AP Pro Does anyone know where I can get one of these? I'm hearing 6

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti UniFi AP Pro

2013-06-27 Thread John J Thomas
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John J Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:36:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti UniFi AP Pro I'm not familiar with that, is it on their web site? John

Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-03 Thread John J Thomas
Cisco 3560 series are about $4000... John -Original Message- From: Nick [mailto:lists-wi...@atomsplash.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:18 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch? They need to run up to 1Gbps. ATT is installing a 1Gbps

Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

2011-02-03 Thread John J Thomas
that are barely above scrap value. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John J Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 04

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-18 Thread John J. Thomas
FWIW, Cisco 871's will route wirespeed at 100 megabits/sec, but can only firewall/NAT/VPN at 25 megabits/sec. John -Original Message- From: Al Stewart [mailto:stewa...@westcreston.ca] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 03:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from Stationto Cruiser

2009-10-18 Thread John J. Thomas
If you are working with law enforcement, they generraly need FIPs compliance on anything that touches their network. John -Original Message- From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:05 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net, ''WISPA General List''

Re: [WISPA] Support a WISP on ARIN's board- Final Slate of Candidates Announced for ARIN Board of Trustees and Advisory Council

2009-10-11 Thread John J. Thomas
The theory is that routing slots cost money. If you have a /19 and consume a routing slot there is x cost. If you have a /8 and consume a routing slot then the cost is nearly the same. Even if that is the case, it still seems the pricing should be more linear. John -Original Message-

[WISPA] Senate Bill

2009-09-02 Thread John J. Thomas
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area

2009-04-12 Thread John J. Thomas
www.covadwireless.com They service a large chunk of the SF Bay Area and some of the Los Angeles area. John -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [mailto:t...@ida.net] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 05:20 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-18 Thread John J. Thomas
Some MME info http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol John -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Too give

Re: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures?

2009-02-18 Thread John J. Thomas
Would it be possible to modify a Mini ITX 1U rack mount enclosure? I think you can find them for under $200. John -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:b...@belwave.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 08:22 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread John J. Thomas
You DO NOT have to use a CLI to do firewalling nowadays. Cisco has the SDM for routers, and the ASDM for ASA's. John -Original Message- From: e...@wisp-router.com [mailto:e...@wisp-router.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 07:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh

Re: [WISPA] Berber carpet

2009-02-16 Thread John J. Thomas
Is there any reason you don't just cut an X in the carpter and then trim it? John -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:j...@scrivner.com] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 08:18 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Berber carpet You need to use a sharp razor knife

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread John J. Thomas
Let's talk about this for a minute. When I signed up for my $24.95 DSL, ATT *gave* me a free DSL modem- if the rules change, that won't be able to happen anymore. If you, as a WISP say here are your options 1. Pay $299 install, and the client can do whatever they want 2. Pay $49 install and a

Re: [WISPA] IPv6 and Us

2008-03-04 Thread John J. Thomas
I hope they don't charge more for IPv6. Currently ARIN is offering discounts for those that want to deploy IPv6, and they are considering making IPv4 cost more as time goes on in order to push IPv6 adoption. John -Original Message- From: Anthony R. Mattke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Fiber

2007-12-16 Thread John J. Thomas
If the drop is 550', you can use Multi mode and the termination is considerably cheaper. As for individual strands, there is probably a balance where it makes sense to not necessarily drop 128 strands, but do something more than 6 strands. John -Original Message- From: George

Re: [WISPA] Copper Plant

2007-06-16 Thread John J. Thomas
These guys have the right idea... http://www.fiberinternetcenter.com/ John -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copper Plant And this is why I planning a fiber roll out in my

Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular

2007-05-12 Thread John J. Thomas
Sprint EVDO is $59-79 per month, and there are hardware routers that accept the card. John -Original Message- From: Pete Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 05:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular The $10/mo for web access

Re: [WISPA] For George - just because you were thinking of me.

2007-03-28 Thread John J. Thomas
I wonder if they know what the word multicast measn... John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 08:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] For George - just because you were thinking of me. Even worse than the

Re: [WISPA] ot, linux for home users

2007-03-13 Thread John J. Thomas
Here are some ideas... http://www.codeweavers.com/products/differences/ John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 10:47 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] ot, linux for home users Hi All, With all the

Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2007-03-04 Thread John J. Thomas
inline... -Original Message- From: Scott Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 04:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS The charger is designed for the size and number of batteries in the original configuration. Changing the

Vonage Was Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know

2007-03-04 Thread John J. Thomas
Gee, has this ever happened to someone on a cell phone? -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 10:03 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know Not to change the subject, but on that page,

Re: [WISPA] School wants authentication

2007-03-04 Thread John J. Thomas
-Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 02:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] School wants authentication I have a customer who is a high school. They have fiber run to switches in 10 buildings. All of those buildings are

Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2007-03-04 Thread John J. Thomas
Yes, especially if it would have multiple power taps. We are working on some stuff that would might need 12, 24 and 48 volts DC. John -Original Message- From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2007 10:18 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: RE: [WISPA]

Re: Vonage Was Re: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know

2007-03-04 Thread John J. Thomas
PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2007 11:32 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: Vonage WasRe: [WISPA] CALEA opinion... it's nice to know On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:01:16 +, John J. Thomas wrote Gee, has this ever happened to someone on a cell phone? I have dialed 911 and had the call

Re: [WISPA] Some opinions

2007-03-01 Thread John J. Thomas
Carlos, if you put Cisco AP1242's in Nema boxes, you can alternate 2.4 and 5.8 GHz, thus using only 5 radios. John -Original Message- From: Carlos A. Garcia G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Some opinions Hi i

Re: [WISPA] Some opinions

2007-03-01 Thread John J. Thomas
1400's are way too expensive to even consider for this. John -Original Message- From: Carlos A. Garcia G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2007 05:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some opinions do u think that this can be done with cisco 1400 wireless

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-27 Thread John J. Thomas
essid's all over the place, they're replacing the older actiontec essid's. George John J. Thomas wrote: I have one in front of me, the FCC ID is PGR2W2700RD. From the 2Wire website Eliminate Coldspots with HyperG Technology 2Wire?s HyperG? high-powered wireless technology virtually eliminates

Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ?????

2007-02-22 Thread John J. Thomas
Cisco AP 1242 Radios have 5.4 GHz as an option in the current flash. John -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 04:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ? Travis, Are saying you are

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-22 Thread John J. Thomas
been selling non-compliant equipment in the form of those DSL modems that they sell to their customers. Just a thought. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com John J. Thomas wrote: The Telcos all over are deploying 400 mW units-anything that says 2WIRE is 400 mW. John -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-21 Thread John J. Thomas
The Telcos all over are deploying 400 mW units-anything that says 2WIRE is 400 mW. John -Original Message- From: Lonnie Nunweiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 09:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

Re: [WISPA] Routers

2007-02-14 Thread John J. Thomas
cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual

Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV white spaces

2007-02-07 Thread John J. Thomas
inline... -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 10:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV white spaces Here are few raw comments that might fray some nerves: 1. The FCC is

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-02-03 Thread John J. Thomas
Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John J. Thomas wrote: Sam, Walmart has made most of its money by screwing others. Truck driver makes delivery to Walmart ad unload pallets. Goes to have receiving sign for them. Receiving refuses to sign, and says that *after* the truck driver *unloads* the items

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-01-27 Thread John J. Thomas
billionaires. The trick seems to be, if you can somehow manages to be the cheapest and do it right you can make a boat load of money and it doesn't have to be at the expense of the customer. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Peter R. wrote: John J. Thomas wrote: But, the model will work

Re: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] New report on Muni Wifi

2007-01-27 Thread John J. Thomas
True, to be fair, there are Munis doing private Wireless, public wireless and both. Most Munis see the benefit of doing it private, although some are still politically tempted to do the public or public-private mix to make them some campaign points. When we work with cities and they say they

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-01-27 Thread John J. Thomas
Mark, how would you like to be the employee at an American television tube manufacturer and then lose your job and watch the plant close. The manufacturer found that foreign companies were dumping their product on the American market so they filed suit. When push came to shove, Walmart filed

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing

2007-01-27 Thread John J. Thomas
I read an article once about this. What happens when Walmart can't drop prices any lower? Who foots the bill when Walmart employees get sick and go to the Emergency room? John -Original Message- From: Peter R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 03:46 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: Advanced Bandwidth Management

2007-01-25 Thread John J. Thomas
But, the model will work if you bill by the bytes If Joe is paying $40 per month for 6 Gig and gets throttled at 6 Gig, then he has a disincentive for keeping going. If he is paying $40 for unlimited access, he has no reason to slow down. Charter cable is doing 10 meg down/1 meg up in

Re: [WISPA] Need opinion

2006-12-17 Thread John J. Thomas
Carlos, the Cisco 1242's bridge, but need to be put in a NEMA box to be outdoor rated. You can get them for about $500 on the street. Now, before everyone jumps on, YES, they are more expensive than Mikrotik and some others, but they do bridge well. JT -Original Message- From: Carlos

Re: [WISPA] bare conduits

2006-12-01 Thread John J. Thomas
I have heard of people using something resembling a ping pong ball, pressure on one end and vacuum on the other to push a small string/ribbon through. Once that is done you just pull bigger string until you get the size you want. John -Original Message- From: chris cooper

[WISPA] Service in Colorado?

2006-11-13 Thread John J. Thomas
Anybody want to provide wireless in Colorado? http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=110287 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Low power Ethernet Switch

2006-11-03 Thread John J. Thomas
These guys aren't cheap... http://www.korenix-usa.com/JetNet4500.htm John -Original Message- From: David E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2006 09:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Low power Ethernet Switch D. Ryan Spott wrote: Looking

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-09-28 Thread John J. Thomas
inline... -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations Until, the IRS decides that they can not be considered a contractor, because they do not do work for

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-09-23 Thread John J. Thomas
Id never said they couldn't be paid by the hour. I used to work for a roofing company, and they were regularly questioned about they way they paid their employees. If you have someone work in your office at for 6 hours, and then they go and flat-rate a 3 hour job, that looks like overtime to

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-09-22 Thread John J. Thomas
Yes, and, if for some reason they take too long on a job such that the flat-rate billing is less than Minimum wage, you get into hot water John -Original Message- From: Scott Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 05:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

Re: [WISPA] OT: OpenSER and CCME

2006-09-14 Thread John J. Thomas
If youare trying to use OpenSER, you will need to upgrade the handsets for SIP, SCCP won't work. If you have access to Cisco support, you can download the information to convert the handsets to SIP. John -Original Message- From: Paul Hendry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik

2006-09-07 Thread John J. Thomas
Butch, to do Layer 3 fast roaming, Cisco uses GRE tunnels into a WLSM module. That combined with CCX extensions allow them to do under 50 ms handoffs. Supposedly, just the CCX extensions make it possible for under 150 ms handoffs. I wonder if it is possible for Mikrotik to implement any of

Re: [WISPA] fiber connection for bridgewave

2006-08-01 Thread John J. Thomas
Does $400 include terminating ans testing Single mode? That is very cheap if so. Even for multi mode, $400 is a reasonable rate. John -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2006 09:16 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: RE: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] I need Mikrotik Help

2006-07-31 Thread John J. Thomas
How many is some? They may be boxes that have been compromised with a worm, trojan, virus or spyware. Look closely at the destination ports they are connecting to. If the addresses/ports are in sequence, they may have malware on their PC. John -Original Message- From: Ron Wallace

Re: [WISPA] photo cell power

2006-07-29 Thread John J. Thomas
I don't remember the name offhand, the next time I get near one, I will get it for you. We have been disappointed with the convergence time, and distance coverage in 5 GHz, but this may be due to a flaky AP. We will be doing some more work and range testing in the next couple of weeks. I

Re: [WISPA] photo cell power

2006-07-29 Thread John J. Thomas
inline -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 03:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] photo cell power I don't remember the name offhand, the next time I get near one, I will get it for you. We have been

Re: [WISPA] photo cell power

2006-07-28 Thread John J. Thomas
Yes, that's how the Cisco 1500's are powered. The company that makes the adapters also makes them for othter devices. John -Original Message- From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:01 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: [WISPA] photo cell power

Re: [WISPA] Forgetful

2006-07-19 Thread John J. Thomas
Someone is missing a GOLDEN opportunity here. If someone setup a site that charged a *small* fee to be listed, and then maybe a smaller fee (per use) to search,they could possibly make some money. I don't think it is worth $250 per year to do tower searches. I would probably be willing to pay

Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-15 Thread John J. Thomas
, but Marlon talked about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John J. Thomas wrote: Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters

Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-15 Thread John J. Thomas
ethernet over standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John J. Thomas wrote: Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters. John

Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-15 Thread John J. Thomas
Oops, forgot the link http://www.patton.com/products/pe_products.asp?category=162tab=fbMiDAS_SessionID=c71906728f2547be800411b59ae3244a John -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 07:39 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re

Re: [WISPA] DC Inverter help

2006-07-09 Thread John J. Thomas
Mac, have you looked at these? http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=203 John Message- From: Mac Dearman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2006 07:34 PM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: RE: [WISPA] DC Inverter help Can anyone give me a lead as to what I am

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread John J. Thomas
This should be reason enough for a close look at TOS and pricing mechanisms. If your clients have to pay more for usage, then they will think twice before buying into this. Fry's Electronics usually has a $20 wireless router on sale so this is not the only possible threat. The $20 wireless

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-06 Thread John J. Thomas
I think the general thinking is that WISP's shouldn't have to pay to make the Governments' job easier... John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 5, 2006 11:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-25 Thread John J. Thomas
-Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes John J. Thomas wrote: inline... First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-25 Thread John J. Thomas
Then there are companies like airmatrix that charge less than 1k per node. The key with mesh is density, and many mesh startup's fail because they Underbuild their networks. - Jeff On 4/24/06 7:53 AM, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what equipment they are using, but Cisco AP1500's (mesh

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-25 Thread John J. Thomas
So, in Atlanta, the trees are so dense that a 5 GHz radio putting out 26 dBm into a 7.5 dB omni can't go 2500 feet? John -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-24 Thread John J. Thomas
I don't know what equipment they are using, but Cisco AP1500's (mesh) are abnout $3700 each and Cisco recommends 18-20 per square mile. Thats $74,000 for the boxes plus antennas, mounts, POE and install. John -Original Message- From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-24 Thread John J. Thomas
You mean it's not already :-) John -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 07:36 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes I'll go ahead and predict that San Francisco will be a

Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes

2006-04-24 Thread John J. Thomas
inline... -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 07:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes I am doubting that wisps can actually accomadate the muni in most situations, unless they are

Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

2006-04-09 Thread John J. Thomas
This sounds like it could have potential. I'm sure that most WISPs would like to take a vacation sometime :-) The main problem I see is how does an ISP give them enough info to be useful, while not letting people deep into his network? If this is just level 1 stuff, then network maps,

Re: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum]

2006-04-09 Thread John J. Thomas
Yes, when you start working with Cities and giving them good service, they remember It is nice to have someone call you asking for service because Mr. x from another city liked your work. John -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 9,

Re: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum]

2006-04-08 Thread John J. Thomas
It is a little strange to have a few MHz be left out, but with that range, who cares? This will make for some very cool possibilities... John -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 7, 2006 09:24 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [Fwd:

Re: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum]

2006-04-08 Thread John J. Thomas
Thanks for the link, it seemed kind of strange why that little slice of 6 MHz was left out. John -Original Message- From: Dawn DiPietro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2006 06:43 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [WISPA] TV spectrum] All, I guess

Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment

2006-04-06 Thread John J. Thomas
, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment If it would stop raining.. We don't have it all

Re: [WISPA] phone-to-voip-to-ethernet conversion

2006-04-06 Thread John J. Thomas
PBXFXOmoduleEthernetWirelessBridgeWirelessBridgeEthernetFXS module Here is one example, Google will probably get you cheaper ones John -Original Message- From: Mario Pommier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2006 10:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment

2006-04-05 Thread John J. Thomas
5, 2006 06:09 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment John, It's now April 5th. How are you faring with the Cisco mesh gear? On 3/1/06, John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Cisco radios can do 4.9-5.8 GHz. I am assuming that 5.3-5.7 will be available in a update

Re: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
Look at Cisco Catalyst 500 series or HP Procurve series. John -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation I need a recommendation for a 12 port switch that

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
In some rural areas, it can be tough to do it in 1 to 5 years. What if you need to provide service to the 2 houses that are 15 miles from your current tower and there is 0 potential for growth? This would allow you to charge enough for long enough that you don't have to lose money. How about

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
Are you willing to put up a tower to serve 2 customers? Only if you think you can get your money back. John -Original Message- From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 01:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform I agree, I

Re: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
Generally, you want QOS classifying as close the edges as you can get it. Then you want your switches to honor the TOS/COS tags, then you want your edge router to police/queue/fragment to your upstream. John -Original Message- From: Rick Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] Custom LMR-400 Cables?

2006-03-15 Thread John J. Thomas
Hyperlink Technologies http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/cable_feed400.php John -Original Message- From: Jason Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 05:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Custom LMR-400 Cables? Anyone know where I can get custom

Re: [WISPA] VPN and Router Choices?

2006-03-15 Thread John J. Thomas
There are a couple of ways to do this. 1. You can use hardware firewalls for site-to-site VPN. 2. You can use hardware firewalls and terminate them to a Windows or Linux server for a site-to-ste VPN. What performance level do you want? How secure does it need to be? How much bandwidth do they

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-28 Thread John J. Thomas
super cell designs as the core to feed the MESH relay points. However, that wouldn't really be typical mesh topology, (although it may according to Cisco's definition :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John J. Thomas

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-25 Thread John J. Thomas
There has been so much talk about this, I might be inclined to help the FCC find those WISPs that are snubbing their noses at the law. This is a professional list and those here should be abiding by the law. I wonder if it would be a good thing to kick out those that promote illegal activities?

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-25 Thread John J. Thomas
We are still waiting to deply Cisco mesh, so I can't vouch for it *yet*. We will be installing for the City of Gilroy Ca. probably in the next 4 weeks. This is currently only a partial deployment, but they plan on lighting the whole city. I can tell you that the equipment is expensive -$3500

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-25 Thread John J. Thomas
Yes, unfortunately, the Cisco mesh is only using 5.8 for backhaul right now. Since they recommend 16-18 mesh boxes per square mile, 5.25 GHz and up would be a much better choice John -Original Message- From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006

Re: [WISPA] Switch recommendations

2006-02-25 Thread John J. Thomas
Where are these being used? If it is at the customer edge, it will be different than if at your core. The Netgear FS726T runs between 100 and 200 dollars and supports up to 8000 MAC adresses. John -Original Message- From: Pete Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday,

Re: [WISPA] Motel setup

2006-02-18 Thread John J. Thomas
b tends to be more reliable than g, especially when penetrating walls. JT -Original Message- From: Paul Hendry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 02:33 PM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motel setup I notice this kit is 11b only. Is there a

Re: [WISPA] Neat tool

2006-02-07 Thread John J. Thomas
I have one, and it works well. This is a very handy tool. John -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2006 09:40 PM To: 'Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization' Subject: [WISPA] Neat tool Just found this. Anyone ever