[Zope] Re: working with urls

Nicholas Wieland wrote: First of all thanks everyone for the help, I've resolved my problems one after the other thanks to the suggestions I've found here. Now I'm rewriting urls by substituting the href attribute with custom data, and everything works fine. What I'd like is having an url like

[Zope] Re: MVC Approach

Thomas Adams wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a newbie to Zope, using version 2.7.3 (okay it is not the newest one) > and I want to know if there is something > like a MVC approach available for Zope, i.e. Model-View-Controller > approach, as it is for instance in Java with the Struts framework from > Ap

[Zope] New mailinglist for Zope 3 translators

Hello all, [Sorry for the cross-post, please CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only.] two months ago, I started an initiative [1] to translate Zope 3.1 using Ubuntu's Launchpad system [2]. Since then, I've received a lot of emails from numerous volunteers around the world and many of them made some

Re: [Zope] DateTime mess

Chris Withers wrote: > Andreas Jung wrote: > >> >> I agree that is should be replaced but I also mentioned that we tried >> to achieve that already some years ago and we gave upso talking >> about deprecation really makes sense when someone puts a replacement >> module on the table. I know tha

Re: [Zope] DateTime mess

Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > > | 2. If we find it's possible, we rid the current DateTime implementation > | and recreate the DateTime class by subclassing datetime.datetime. For > | backwards compatability, we make sure

Re: [Zope] DateTime mess

Lennart Regebro wrote: >>Datetimes are dull values, they should just pickle nicely. > > They do. Yes, that's my point. That's why we don't need added persistency. > A module with extra utilities + timezone support would be nice. pytz provides some extensive timezone support. Not sure what the e

Re: [Zope] DateTime mess

Chris Withers wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > >> I think we need Zope to use some frankendatetime (a datetime.datetime >> that also supports the old DateTime API) throughout the deprecation >> period. Whenever people make a call to the old DateTime API on a &

Re: [Zope] DateTime mess

Lennart Regebro wrote: > I agree, official deprecation and warnings should only happen when we > have a real backwards compatibility and transition-path. Which would > include what you call a "frankendatetime". :-) > > Which, as I understand it, is what Jürgen Herrman wanted to create... Not if I

[Zope] Short tutorial on I18n with Five

I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to document the internationalization (i18n) features that Five has brought to the Zope 2 world since version 1.1: http://worldcookery.com/files/fivei18n This short tutorial compares current Zope-2-based solutions to the i18n problem with the Zope 3

[Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Stephan Richter ]-- > | Hello everyone, > | > | With the development of Zope 3, the Zope developers committed to a new > | development process and higher software quality guidelines. With the > adoption > | of Zope 3 technologies in the wider

Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > | Andrew Milton wrote: > | > +---[ Stephan Richter ]-- > | > | Hello everyone, > | > | > | > | With the development of Zope 3, the Zope developers committed

Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > | > | Handing over ownership to the ZF and therefore having signed a > | Contributor Agreement are the terms of the svn.zope.org repository, just > | like that code is to be made ZPL. > >

Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

Andrew Milton wrote: > +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- > | > | > | * putting a project/package under the wings of the ZF ensures long-term > | > | IP protection > | > > | > How? I think my death + 70 years is further away than the death

[Zope] Re: Packing Data.fs

Duncan Booth wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: > >> Mark Gibson wrote: >>> I know zope makes a copy of Data.fs before packing. Is it possible to >>> specify a location other than /var to place that copy? >> Actually, it makes a *new* file when packing, and then unlinks the old >> file and re-links the

[Zope] Re: zope.org

Chris Withers wrote: > Gaute Amundsen wrote: >> Actually, I am starting to think there should be a big notice on the >> frontpage of the http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ section saying: >> >> "don't bother with this, just read the source" > > There's actually some merit to this, anyone mind if I

[Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer

Peter Bengtsson wrote: What's going on here?? Which is which? http://www.ikaaro.org/localizer or http://www.j-david.net/software/localizer/ They're both zope products and both with the same name. Perhaps the author of the "deprecated" page could put a redirect or something to the new one. Do

Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer

Peter Bengtsson wrote: But how do you use it? I installed Five 1.2.6 In my product's directory I created a configure.zcml that looks like this:: http://namespaces.zope.org/zope"; xmlns:browser="http://namespaces.zope.org/browser"; xmlns:i18n="http://namespaces.zope.org/i18n";

[Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Martijn Pieters wrote: On 9/5/06, Maciej Wisniowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm using Zope 2.9.4 with Five1.4 (linux box). I'm trying to use DateDisplayWidget (from /zope/app/form/browser/textwidgets.py) [snip] So is this something with my Zope that I don't have request.locale or is that a

[Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Maciej Wisniowski wrote: > I consider this a feature request but not as a bug. Ehm... I'm not sure whether we understand each other. I mean the bug There is no bug. is that DateDisplayWidget in Zope2.9.4 uses request.locale which as you said is from Zope3 world. So, as far as I understand,

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Martijn Pieters wrote: On 9/5/06, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maciej Wisniowski wrote: > > I consider this a feature request but not as a bug. > Ehm... I'm not sure whether we understand each other. > > I mean the bug There is no bug. Sure

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Maciej Wisniowski wrote: DateDisplayWidget expects an IBrowserRequest. Zope 2's request only pretends to be an IBrowserRequest. At the current state, it can't implement the whole interface. That's a known issue, but we can't do anything about it, at least not in DateDisplayWidget (and numerou

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-9-5 16:28 +0200: Maciej Wisniowski wrote: > I consider this a feature request but not as a bug. Ehm... I'm not sure whether we understand each other. I mean the bug There is no bug. Seems a funny interpretation of &quo

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-9-5 16:44 +0200: ... It's an issue, not a bug. According to Wikipedia: A software bug is an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program that prevents it from working as intended, or produc

Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer

Peter Bengtsson wrote: HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE isn't a variable. It's an HTTP header (Accept-Language) that you really shouldn't modify. The request should be treated as read-only. To test languages, either write your own IUserPreferredLanguages adapter that returns the language you want or simply

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-9-5 20:57 +0200: ... Note that I'm well aware of this issue and have thought hard about it. I think the only long term solution out of this mess is to get rid of the __getattr__ spelling once and for all. The "__getattr

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Maciej Wisniowski wrote: I'll call this an "issue" for now, but I won't argue semantics here. All I can say is that the Five project's promises were never that everything from Zope 3 works instantly. And it has also been Five's policy to make a quick lie here and there just to get things goin

[Zope] Re: zope 3 invisibility

Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6 Sep 2006, at 02:04, Fred Drake wrote: On 9/5/06, Carlos de la Guardia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I frequently blog about Zope, and recently posted a list of 10 reasons why I think Zope 3 is kind of invisible to the Pyth

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Practically, it will very rarely hinder you to add attributes (such as "locale") to the request. I think "locale" and "debug" are just common enough to be form variables. Funny, I've never used e

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Chris Withers wrote: (Btw, just thought of another one possible name clash: 'response') no-one uses that is Zope 2 land 'cos of RESPONSE... Well. Could be that someone uses 'response' as a form variable, as in "the response to a question" in a QandA system, perhaps. The sad thing about thi

Re: [Zope] Re: request.locale - do we have this in 2.9.4?

Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-9-7 15:08 +0200: Chris Withers wrote: (Btw, just thought of another one possible name clash: 'response') no-one uses that is Zope 2 land 'cos of RESPONSE... Well. Could be that someone uses 'response' as a f

[Zope] Re: tal assignment

David Bear wrote: I wanted to assign a list object to a tal global variable but I can't seem to find the correct syntax. I tried: tal:content=""> blah This will print "['item1', 'item2']" ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mai

[Zope] Re: PageTemplate i18n migration from Zope2 to Zope2+Five / Zope3...

Pascal Peregrina wrote: I would like to know the right way to manage messages and store them in ZODB with Zope2+Five or Zope3. Currently, in Zope2, I use Localizer MessageCatalog objects. Is there a new way already available through Five? (note that I don’t want to use flat files for translation

[Zope] Re: Extra Fancy Template Manipulation

Edward Pollard wrote: Hi all, I've got three subsites that formerly used three different templates. I'd like for them now to use the same template, but I'd prefer not to have to touch the thousands of pages of content that currently point in three different places for their template. The easy s

[Zope] Re: View classes based on Page Templates in Zope2

Peter Bengtsson wrote: Something I like about Zope3 is the View classes. What I like about it especially is that it's a brilliant place for putting in little extra silly python methods that are specific to your template rather than the object class. Eg. class ViewProduct(BrowserPage): __c

[Zope] 2nd edition of Zope 3 book available!

I'm proud to announce that -- as the first Zope book ever -- my book titled "Web Component Development with Zope 3" has been released as a second edition and is now available from online and local bookstores. Like the first edition, the new book is targeted at all web developers who want to ge

[Zope] Re: [Warning] Zope 3 component architecture (CA) not reliably usable for registrations from Python

Dieter Maurer wrote: I tried to use Zope3 events to get informed when requests start and end. One of our modules (the interface module to "jpype") requires such a notification for reliable work. Therefore, it tried to register the corresponding subscriptions on import of this module. That is a

[Zope] Re: [Warning] Zope 3 component architecture (CA) not reliably usable for registrations from Python

Chris Withers wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: If you are populating the CA before ZCML is fully parsed, then: Why is the CA predicated on ZCML?! It's not. And Stephan's "Collect all registrations before executing them!" isn't actually necessary either (it's just necessary for conflict resolu

[Zope] Re: Zope 2 and Zope 3

Geoff Gerrietts wrote: I have a couple questions about the current game plan for Zope development that I was unable to answer for myself by searching through mailing list archives and the zope.org website. I hope my inability to answer them is not merely a symptom of poor sear

[Zope] Re: Zope 2 and Zope 3

Geoff Gerrietts wrote: [some paragraphs about scaling which I can't really comment on] As for source control, I figure all of your code (DTML, yuck) is in the ZODB. This went out of fashion a long time ago, most serious development happens on the filesystem (in Python packages) which can obvious

[Zope] Re: Configure.zcml In Hello World Video On WorldCookery.Com Doesn't Work

Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote: Here is my configure.zcml file, which is identical to the one Paul Everitt says to write: http://namespaces.zope.org/browser";> for="zope.app.container.interfaces.Icontainer" permission="zope.Public" /> and here is the e

[Zope] Re: Running ./zopectl gives NameError: name 'set' is not defined

michael nt milne wrote: Hi On trying to make a new zopeinstance from a Plone 2.5 instance created using the unified installer I am getting the following error when I attempt to run ./zopectl and start the instance. Traceback (most recent call last): ... NameError: name 'set' is not defined

[Zope] Re: zope.testbrowser, how to?

Basil Shubin wrote: Basil Shubin wrote: Hi friends, I want use zope.testbrowser for testing my sites, but before write it as DocTest I want execute each statemnt interactively in python shell. I don't know any way to see where it's works, what value it returns, what error I can get and how t

[Zope] Get paid for spending your summer improving Zope!

The Zope Foundation has been accepted as a mentoring organization in this year's Google Summer of Code project. That means chosen students who want to hack on one of the Zope projects (Zope 2, Zope 3, ZODB, CMF, grok, ...) this coming summer will get paid USD 4,500 if they successfully complete

[Zope] Re: V iewlet in rotterdam?

Derek Richardson wrote: Zope 3.3 I want to add a viewlet to the rotterdam skin. I don't want to create my own skin. is there an accepted way of doing this? I'm surprised that the left sidebar in rotterdam doesn't appear to have a viewlet manager. I have been unable to find any declarations i

[Zope] Re: smart development & debugging

Roberto Scelzo wrote: to aj: If you have the freedom to choose your Zope version: - start with Zope 2.10 + CMF 2.1 - put your templates etc. into the filesystem using portal_skins - use Zope 3 technology together with CMF: Zope 3 schema + formlib for creating content-types, forms etc...

[Zope] Re: 2.10.3: "default" keyword with tal:replace problems?

Sascha Welter wrote: Yesterday evening I installed 2.10.3 for some tests with Zwiki (haven't tried any of the other 2.10s). I noticed that the wiki logo wasn't displayed. I think I narrowed it down to the "default" keyword in tal:replace being treated like "nothing". My testcase (in a blan

[Zope] Fwd: Zope 3 training in Oslo with Philipp von Weitershausen

In case anybody who's interested is not subscribed to zope-announce... Original Message Subject: Zope 3 training in Oslo with Philipp von Weitershausen Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:15:04 +0200 From: Andreas Johnsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bouvet

[Zope] Re: _p_resolveConflict not called on conflict

Martijn Pieters wrote: On 8/7/07, Joachim Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes ZEO is involved, but where do I specify a Products-directory in etc/zeo.conf ? You can't, AFAICT. ZEO servers only support one Products directory in their INSTANCE_HOME, it appears. 'Products' is just like any o

[Zope] Re: asynchronous MailHost

Andreas Jung wrote: --On 19. August 2007 11:37:30 -0600 Sean Fulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just read about the latest changes to MailHost: http://blog.zopyx.com/blog_ajung/archive/2007/08/19/zopes-mailhost-overha uled I'm currently using MaildropHost to do async delivery and would like

[Zope] Re: z3c.offlinepack

Ross Patterson wrote: Also, I can't seem to get the ReStructuredText in the long_description on the pypi page to display as ReStructuredText instead of just displaying as test. Anyone got any pointers? I assume you're generating long_description from a README.txt file or so. If you have docut

[Zope] Re: Zope is in trouble

Gregory Dudek wrote: A key factor is that from the zope.org web site it is not clear if the community is healthy or not, and the general impression is that the project is stalled since so many links are dead and defunct (and in fact I am not so sure of the zope community health myself any longe

[Zope] Re: Frustrated with Python and Frameworks. Zope, Grok, , Django, CherryPy

Tres Seaver wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, On Nov 28, 2007 12:16 AM, Martijn Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could also consider putting them in some kind of collective-like SVN repository so that people can make changes when they need to. I think this is a great idea as it works wi

[Zope] Re: Five 1.5.5 and menuItem - problem with 'filter' parameter

Pawel Lewicki wrote: Hi, Am I doing anything wrong or filter parameter of browser:menuItem is just ignored? I have that problem in Plone but I suspect CMF ActionsTool if not Five itself. I tried "whatever" Python Script, registered page view, etc. No success. You're using it wrong. The

[Zope] Re: Five 1.5.5 and menuItem - problem with 'filter' parameter

On 1 Dec 2007, at 23:49 , Pawel Lewicki wrote: Pawel Lewicki pisze: Philipp von Weitershausen pisze: Pawel Lewicki wrote: Hi, Am I doing anything wrong or filter parameter of browser:menuItem is just ignored? I have that problem in Plone but I suspect CMF ActionsTool if not Five itself

[Zope] Re: Upgrade Five for Zope 2.9.7?

James Robertson wrote: How do I upgrade Five (http://codespeak.net/z3/five/) from v1.3.8 to v1.4.4 in Zope v2.9.7? The Plone product I wish to install (Reflecto v1.2 - http://plone.org/products/reflecto) apparentl. requires v1.4.1+. Frustratingly, the installation page (http://codespeak.net/z3/

[Zope] Re: dtml-tree documentation

Andreas Jung wrote: Is there a complete documentation of the dtml-tree tag anywhere? The dtml reference of the Zope book has the following for some options: "This attribute is for advanced usage only" Where can I find out about this 'advanced usage'? Using DTML and related DTML tags is like dri

[Zope] Re: PageTemplates len() of unsized object

Dieter Maurer wrote: Giampiero Benvenuti wrote at 2008-5-24 11:47 +0200: ... after the upgrade from zope2.9.7 to 2.10.6 i get this error in the event log: 2008-05-24T09:31:32 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://myurl/error_log/manage_main Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, l

Re: [Zope] Re: PageTemplates len() of unsized object

On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:44 , Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2008-5-28 21:52 +0200: Dieter Maurer wrote: 2008-05-24T09:31:32 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://myurl/error_log/manage_main Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 119, in publish Module

[Zope] Re: Python instance growing while ZTC

Marco Bizzarri wrote: Hi all. Apologies in advance if my question has a somewhat obvious answer. I'm working on a Zope application, developed as a python product. I've ZTC in place for this application. While I run all the ZTC, I can see python process size growing. Can I use this as an indica

[Zope] Re: I wonder why class constructor is never in apidoc ?

KLEIN Stéphane wrote: I wonder why class constructor is never in apidoc ? Because nobody has bothered to implement this feature. Patches are welcome :) Are there something in OOP concept I haven't understand ? I don't know what you mean with this.

[Zope] Re: Deployment Best Practices?

Jeff McNeil wrote: That's not all that obvious to someone new to the Zope system. Most of the documentation I've found is geared towards the 2.x branch. As Zope 3 and Zope 2 are different animals, I wouldn't think that the deployment steps and recommendations would be all that similar. With b

[Zope] Re: Deployment Best Practices?

Paul Winkler wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 01:20:53PM -0400, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jeff McNeil wrote: I'd love to be able to just drop an egg on the file system and tell Zope "Here, go load that one now" via configuration alone. You could also write your own ZCML

[Zope] Disable configuration of 3rd party packages with z3c.unconfigure

When relying on a third-party package with ZCML configuration, it is sometimes desirable to disable certain directives, for instance when the third-party package defines an event subscriber that you'd like to disable. This is now possible with z3c.unconfigure. While zope.configuration (the pa

[Zope] Re: Page Template help

Garito wrote: Could someone point me where the page template code decide if an expression is a path expression or a string or python one, please? I'm studying the zope page template classes and I would like to understand where this decision is taken Products.PageTemplates.Expressions.createZ

Re: [Zope] Page Template help

Garito wrote: > Use: > /path/to/the/object/with/${some/magic/variables}/to/solve/some/paths/in/a/simplest/way Path expressions already support this. tal:define="pathel some/magic/variables; objpath/to/the/object/with/?pathel/to/solve/some/..." So basically in TALES path ex

Re: [Zope] Page Template help

Garito wrote: > Considere this case: > > I have the sking value in the variable at args/Yanged/Skin > > How can I do the equivalent to > > args/Yanged/raiz/Skins/${args/Yanged/Skin}/arbolYanged.css/absolute_url > > ? > > In the python way it will be: > > path(path('string:' + > 'args/Yanged/

Re: [Zope] Page Template help

Garito wrote: > Finally it's possible to do what I need without the need to declare any > variable? Not that I know of. > If not my change will be 4-6 lines of code and it's ok for me to make > this change > > I only need to understand were the code decides if the expression is > standard, st

Re: [Zope] Script (Python) insecure ?

Thanks a lot for taking care of these issues, Andreas! Andreas Jung wrote: > > > --On 12. August 2008 16:05:47 +0200 Andreas Jung > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> --On 12. August 2008 14:16:44 +0200 Andreas Jung >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> *sigh* >>> >>> I wished that both e

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.x for Py 2.6 as 64 bit Windows application?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We're contemplating the move of our Zope 2.x application to 64-bit Windows. > We rely on a few add-on packages, notably PyWin, which has 64-bit support for > Py 2.6 only. > > I'd be grateful for a rough idea on when there could be a Zope 2.x release > working with Python

Re: [Zope] [Off-Topic] KSS ugly?

Encolpe Degoute wrote: > Dieter Maurer a écrit : >> Garito wrote at 2008-10-8 14:22 +0200: >>> I'm agree with you, Tino. Plone has a lot of ugly features (as KSS, for >>> instance) >> Why is KSS ugly? >> Reading the documentation, I found it quite attractive > > That is what KSS opponents atr