Re: Purchasing a second body
Hi! Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
Re: PAW: sparrows
Hello Herb, I like that shot very much! However it is not crisp sharp, I think that doesn't hurt, on the contrary, it accentuates the warm feeling of the nest. Big kudos for that shot! Sunday, March 14, 2004, 8:51:38 PM, you wrote: HC taken on the *istD with a Sigma 50-500 and Sigma 2X extender at 500mm wide HC open and then cropped to the 50% center portion. equivalent FOV to a 1500mm HC lens on a 35mm film body. Man, I can only dream of something like that equipment... Attila
Re: WOW- Damaged Wedding Photo Results
Hi, Kevin! Your choice of colours looks way much better than mine. I'll go back and try to duplicate that on the edited original. Very interesting to see the similarities in approach among us. Thanks. Jostein - Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:58 AM Subject: WOW- Damaged Wedding Photo Results I have posted the results I have received on this WOW project. Thank you to all who participated. I think there may be at least one other attempt that may come in later. Here's the link. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/81452/1/2858344 Overall, I looks like you all had some of the similar difficulties. The jawline was tough and I never could really get the lips to look natural. I want to commend Jostein for his submission. He reports spending five hours on it. I have uploaded my own effort as well as an additional copy of Jostein's with my own color balancing. Thanks again to everyone who participated.
Re: How minilabs work (was: Re[2]: Gulls photos)
Hello Butch, Thank you very much for that info. It helped me a *lot* to understand why minilabs scratch film. Attila
Re: wow for the pda users, for walkden, wow. pow wow, pee wee prickly paw paw, how now bow wow dun cow
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Bob W wrote: The use of Re: (note the trailing space) in the subject line of replies is regulated in the Internet standard document RFC 2822, section 3.6.5: I know. And it's still a crap idea. The word 'Subject' covers all the territory that 'Re:' covers. 'Re:' is entirely redundant. Maybe or maybe not. It has, however, been an Internet standard since the 70's and is well established and hard to change. And some may still like it. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Purchasing a second body
You might also consider the PZ-1p/Z-1p. US$300 will buy you a mint one. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: wow for the pda users, for walkden, wow. pow wow, pee wee prickly paw paw, how now bow wow dun cow
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Bob W wrote: If the dates and times are working properly then that's all you need. The replies must have come after the first post. Sort by subject and date/time. You could even better sort by thread. Each message should have a In-Reply-To-header that tells which mail it is a reply to, regardless of subject changes. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Porst 135mm 1.8
Hi Kevin, you can also pull and hold the DOF-preview in M mode. The metering scale on the right lights up as long you hold the lever in place. You can then track the changes in exposure balance according to your changes of time or aperture...very convenient IMHO. Thomas Uh, Doh. I meant to say if it's too slow, open up the stop. Then repeat your meter reading and shoot. In any case, the *ist-D meter works very well in multi segment, center weighted, and spot. it's a perrfectly adequate exposure tool. On Mar 14, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The change in shutter speed reflects the meter reading. If it's too slow, stop down. Then repeat your meter reading and shoot. On Mar 14, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] issued this cry: Just press the little green button. I press the little green button , when in M mode, and it changes the the shutter speed. Is the meter supposed to be active? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: Re:Bicycles
Chris, I strongly suggest you reduce that morphine dose. Helmets with brake levers don't exist, you see. :-) Cheers, Jostein (who is off to persuade the doctor to give me an antibiotics prescription) - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: Re:Bicycles Oh PleaseNOT A DIATRIBE about bicycles.I still miss my Specialised carbon fibre racer with Schmidt gears(SOBB).Now didn't that have a camera in the brake lever???Hm!Nah,was the helmet. S'okay,it's just the morphine for pain(what pain)tablets taking effect. Regards Chris Kennedy
Re: RAW sharpening
David, My experiments with the sharpening of RAW files is just preliminary yet, but one thing I have noticed. Images with high contrast areas (like the example Rob Brigham posted the other day), will benefit from adjusting chromatic aberration first. Would be interesting to see comparisons of different ways of sharpening, btw. For example RAW sharpening vs. conversion to LAB and channel sharpening. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 11:50 PM Subject: RAW sharpening I just tried the RAW plug-in for Photoshop with great success. I do, however, need a refresher course on sharpening. I am having trouble finding the balance between too much and not enough. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
Hi Frits, It seems like the hot pixel phenomena are pretty widespread, but then some dont seem to have any at all. It will be interesting to see what the 'average' number of hot pixels is amongst those who submitted results to Rob. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Frits Wüthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I ran this test using a TIF file, which is recommended, as a jpg might cause false reporting on hot pixels which are artifacts of jpg compression. When shooting RAW and using the converter of Photoshop CS to create a TIFF, I didn't find any hot pixels. With TIF writing by the camera on the flash card directly however, I did find hot pixels, no dead ones. I did the test with Noise Reduction (NR) on and NR off. NR off NR on 30 s834 3 15 s82 5 8 s 31 0 4 s 25 0 2 s 15 0 1 s 17 0 1/2 s 11 0 1/4 s 5 0 1/8 s 2 2 same results up to and including 1/4000 s (2 hot pixels with NR off and NR on). On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 00:39, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. I want to compare the number of recorded 'hot' pixels with other owners to see if the results I got from testing are normal or otherwise. It'll take about 3/4 of an hour to run the tests the same way I did. I used a little utility called 'Dead Pixel Test' which is available at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm I took a series of shots with the following set-up. 1. Lens cap on 2. Viewfinder cap on 3. Manual mode 4. Manual Focus 5. JPEG Highest Quality 6. F8.0 using FA 24mm (not that the lens should really matter) 7. Noise reduction On I took frames with shutter speeds ranging from 1/4000 down to 2 seconds (all speeds in between). I then used the Pentax Photo Browser to export a *.csv worksheet to work on in excel. Then I ran each frame through the test program, as per the instructions. I set the Luminance threshold to 60, and the Dead Pixel threshold to 100. Thankfully, I recorded no dead pixels, and the worst result was a total of 4 'hot' pixels at 1/8 and 1/6 sec. noise reduction does cut in at 1/4 sec, eliminating all 'hot' pixel occurrences from 1/4 too 2 secs. As other have pointed out, some of the images I uploaded yesterday definitely display hot-spots caused by these 'hot' pixels. What I am interested in is the results that anyone else may get to compare to my camera. Thanks in advance, Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos Cool photos, especially the dragonflies in flight. I was wondering how the *ist-D would do with bugs - looks great! (Mine arrived with the first snow, so no chance to test it on insects yet). - MCC At 12:41 PM 3/13/2004 +0800, you wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized. http://www.heritageservices.com.au/Pentax%20ist%20D%20Photos/Web%20Gallery/i ndex.htm Tell me what you think? Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com - -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL
Re[2]: PAW - Tabletop shots
Hello Boris, Monday, March 15, 2004, 7:24:09 AM, you wrote: BL Hi! BA http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/ BA OK, don't shoot me, there are 4 pictures rather big in size. I did an BA interesting experiment with my lens, and these are the results. You BA could also read the text, but it is not necessary, I'm just a newbie BA in a need for a macro lens:) BA I would like to hear some constructive criticism about the pictures. BL Ok then, here goes. BL I am sorry I am kinda late, but my debt to the list is getting BL smaller... No problem with that, I can wait:) Your comments are appreciated anytime. BL 1. Abstract with Marbles - nothing to say - it is just good. Cute BL says my wife who's standing beside me as I am typing this. I like the BL lines... And I like the little shadows... That is my favourite one. Maybe because I like marbles... I had a hard time arranging them in those nice lines, they tend to roll away easily. BL 2. Marbles and Bearing Balls - well, does not say much to me though. BL It does not click but I don't know how to get it to click. Just click on it, and you get the larger image. But that's a rather weak composition I must admit, so maybe it doesn't even worth it. BL 3. Spades and Hearts - the best. Since the support you used to keep BL the cards up is not seen it is very much like an optical illusion BL shot. My wife asked me to show her the image again to make sure the BL cards do stand up. Well done. Thanks. That was a funny idea of mine:) I used another card for support. Maybe you can notice that on the large version, but you have to look very hard at the edges. I'm glad it worked:) BL 4. Break! - the weakest one. Everything is in the middle and small. If BL my daughter were her, she'd say nu-nu-nu and shake her little finger BL at you grin... I agree. It was shot mainly to test corner and center sharpness at wider apertures. Doing all that work at f/16 gave me long exposures as I should take reciprocity failure into account, but I don't know how to do it properly. The tablecloth is actually the clearest white, but it got some kind of drappish tint, what is more proeminent on the prints than on the monitor. In this particular case I even like it, but don't know how this may come out in general. I tried to use on-camera flash to get shorter exposure times, but the results are awful:( So for closeups f/16 is my lens's sweet spot, and I have to live with it until I get a macro. Thanks for your reply. Attila
OT: Ebay practices, WAS RE: Pentax 28-80/2,8?
Hi, Mark wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I do not like it when sellers describe an item as a Pentax lens in the auction title and then described the item as for Pentax, made by in the auction body. There is one retailer that regularly describes a lens as Pentax bayonet sometimes with fit afterwards and sometimes not. Even worse, and what leads me to suspect that they are deliberately trying to deceive, is that all the pictures carefully do not show the name of the manufacturer. mike
RE: Purchasing a second body
G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty, GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Hi! Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
OT: Lens cleaning in San Francisco?
I am asking this one for a friend in San Francisco. He had a EXAKTA SCHNEIDER 150/4 being cleaned in HK but was messed up. The glasses were not properly cleaned and there is some mechanicam problem with the aperture. Does anyone have tried any reputable service centres in that area so my friend could pay a visit? Many thanks. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Purchasing a second body
I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty, GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
Re: Purchasing a second body
Hi! Let it be clear g, MZ-6, ZX-L, ZX-6, and MZ-L are different names of the same body. I've no idea where is natural habitat of each of these names, but the body is the same. Boris
RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
I also want to understand why I don't get any hot pixels when I use the Photoshop CS raw converter and create a tiff file that way. Perhaps I need to tweak the settings. On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 10:40, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Hi Frits, It seems like the hot pixel phenomena are pretty widespread, but then some dont seem to have any at all. It will be interesting to see what the 'average' number of hot pixels is amongst those who submitted results to Rob. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Frits Wüthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I ran this test using a TIF file, which is recommended, as a jpg might cause false reporting on hot pixels which are artifacts of jpg compression. When shooting RAW and using the converter of Photoshop CS to create a TIFF, I didn't find any hot pixels. With TIF writing by the camera on the flash card directly however, I did find hot pixels, no dead ones. I did the test with Noise Reduction (NR) on and NR off. NR off NR on 30 s 834 3 15 s 82 5 8 s 31 0 4 s 25 0 2 s 15 0 1 s 17 0 1/2 s 11 0 1/4 s 5 0 1/8 s 2 2 same results up to and including 1/4000 s (2 hot pixels with NR off and NR on). On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 00:39, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Hi guys, Anyone willing too take part in a little experiment with your *ist D? I know how you guys all love comparing lenses and gear from time to time, so hopefully a few of you might help me out. I want to compare the number of recorded 'hot' pixels with other owners to see if the results I got from testing are normal or otherwise. It'll take about 3/4 of an hour to run the tests the same way I did. I used a little utility called 'Dead Pixel Test' which is available at http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm I took a series of shots with the following set-up. 1. Lens cap on 2. Viewfinder cap on 3. Manual mode 4. Manual Focus 5. JPEG Highest Quality 6. F8.0 using FA 24mm (not that the lens should really matter) 7. Noise reduction On I took frames with shutter speeds ranging from 1/4000 down to 2 seconds (all speeds in between). I then used the Pentax Photo Browser to export a *.csv worksheet to work on in excel. Then I ran each frame through the test program, as per the instructions. I set the Luminance threshold to 60, and the Dead Pixel threshold to 100. Thankfully, I recorded no dead pixels, and the worst result was a total of 4 'hot' pixels at 1/8 and 1/6 sec. noise reduction does cut in at 1/4 sec, eliminating all 'hot' pixel occurrences from 1/4 too 2 secs. As other have pointed out, some of the images I uploaded yesterday definitely display hot-spots caused by these 'hot' pixels. What I am interested in is the results that anyone else may get to compare to my camera. Thanks in advance, Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D Photos Thanks Mark. I would have liked the 'in flight' shot to be a bit sharper, but you know how fast these little buggers move. It was more luck than good management. I'm pretty happy with the overall performance of the *ist D though, even if I do have a couple of 'hot' pixels. Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services Lawrence Way, Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 Mob: 0414-967 644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Photos Cool photos, especially the dragonflies in flight. I was wondering how the *ist-D would do with bugs - looks great! (Mine arrived with the first snow, so no chance to test it on insects yet). - MCC At 12:41 PM 3/13/2004 +0800, you wrote: Hi gang, Here are the results of my first foray into the bush with an *ist D. all of the shots were taken with the *ist D, battery grip, FA 100mm macro. All were handheld. Photoshop work was limited to sharpening and adjusting the levels a bit. The files are all in the 1-3 mb range, so be warned, they'll take a while to come down the pipe via a 56k modem. None of them are resized.
Re: OT: Spain suffers
My sincere condolences to all the people who are a victim of this attack. -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Purchasing a second body
G'day Keith. Mate, In Australia the camera sold here is the MZ-6. The MZ-6 is also sold in europe and Canada as the MZ-6. However, They are scarce as hens teeth second hand too expensive to buy new. I bought the U.S. ZX-L which is the exact same camera, Just a different model name on it. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton OZ -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty, GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
Re: PAW: sparrows
several reasons for the softness: lens isn't super sharp, 2X extender makes it worse, shooting wide open is worse, and 1/500s shutter speed, even on a good tripod, is marginal at that much magnification when you have to be holding the camera and aiming it. the ball head couldn't be tight as i had to track the rapidly moving birds. mostly though, i think it is the converter. Herb - Original Message - From: Boros Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:56 AM Subject: Re: PAW: sparrows I like that shot very much! However it is not crisp sharp, I think that doesn't hurt, on the contrary, it accentuates the warm feeling of the nest. Big kudos for that shot!
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
the RAW converter is doing noise reduction. turn on Advanced mode and look at all of the noise reduction settings. Herb - Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I also want to understand why I don't get any hot pixels when I use the Photoshop CS raw converter and create a tiff file that way. Perhaps I need to tweak the settings.
RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
But Frits is reporting hot pixels with in-camera NR on when creating Tiffs but not when creating RAW and converting in CS. This would suggest that the NR in Photoshop is doing something better than the dark frame subtraction. I must admit I am slightly puzzled - I thought the in-camera NR (dark frame subtraction) was supposed to get rid of ALL hot pixels by removing any hot pixels in the dark frame from the resultant picture, presumably interpolating a best guess of what should be there. So why do you get ANY hot pixels with NR on? When I did the tests a while back, I seem to recall seeing quite a lot with NR off and absolutely none with it on. I have always shot with NR on and see no purpose for me in doing otherwise. I am not a speed junkie (as far as cameras are concerned anyway) so NR has absolutely no downside that I can think of for me. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 March 2004 11:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test the RAW converter is doing noise reduction. turn on Advanced mode and look at all of the noise reduction settings. Herb - Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I also want to understand why I don't get any hot pixels when I use the Photoshop CS raw converter and create a tiff file that way. Perhaps I need to tweak the settings.
Re: Purchasing a second body
Good info - thanks! Re the cost, is there some built-in tax or other DIS-advantage to buying that camera in OZ, vs. the U.S.? Other than currency exchange numbers? What _would_ the MZ-6 cost in OZ? keith Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day Keith. Mate, In Australia the camera sold here is the MZ-6. The MZ-6 is also sold in europe and Canada as the MZ-6. However, They are scarce as hens teeth second hand too expensive to buy new. I bought the U.S. ZX-L which is the exact same camera, Just a different model name on it. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton OZ -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty, GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
Re: Purchasing a second body
At 03:51 AM 15/03/2004 -0800, you wrote: Good info - thanks! Re the cost, is there some built-in tax or other DIS-advantage to buying that camera in OZ, vs. the U.S.? Other than currency exchange numbers? What _would_ the MZ-6 cost in OZ? keith I cannot comment on this particular camera, as I have no idea how much it costs, but for the last 5 or 6 years we have been buying from the US, as OZ was not very competitive. We purchased flashes, bodies, lenses, even film. We saved thousands of dollars that way. what it cost us buying from the States was approx 60-70% of the OZ cost. and that includes all postage (FedEx) taxes and other fees. As we can claim it on tax, there is no point for us to smuggle it in, saving 10% on GST. HOWEVER when purchasing *istD it was cheaper to buy here. The cost was the same in figures, but once you take into account the exchange rates, buying in US was ~30% more expensive + postage + tax. But now US is more competitive again. (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bicycles
Jostein,Come on,I said the camera was in the helmet,but with miniaturisation who knows?Look what they did to Rolleiflex.Wait a minute,you sure about the helmet and the brake lever? Regards Chris K Good luck with the antibiotic.Plenty of garlic obviates the necessity of that stuff!
Re: OT: Lens cleaning in San Francisco?
Hi Alan ... There's no place in San Francisco that I'd recommend. There might be a good place but I've yet to find it. All my gear goes out of town. shel Alan Chan wrote: I am asking this one for a friend in San Francisco [...] Does anyone have tried any reputable service centres in that area so my friend could pay a visit? Many thanks.
Re: bullshit thread about threading threads
Maybe changing the subject of this thread will get it out of the PAW or WOW. It's just becoming blather and is serving no one any useful purpose. As for your previous subject line (Re: wow for the pda users, for walkden, wow. pow wow, pee wee prickly paw paw, how now bow wow dun cow) ... well, I guess you must be trying to make a point ... Anders Hultman wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Bob W wrote: If the dates and times are working properly then that's all you need. The replies must have come after the first post. Sort by subject and date/time. You could even better sort by thread. Each message should have a In-Reply-To-header that tells which mail it is a reply to, regardless of subject changes.
Re: Purchasing a second body
Morgan said: I've owned a ZX-M for about three years now and suddenly decided that I wanted to be able to do rear-curtain sync flash photography. ... I learned of all the merits of the AF-500 FTZ flash unit. So, I purchased it online (used, at half the price). Imagine my surprise when I got my fancy flash unit home and suddenly learned there is a difference between TTL metering and TTL flash metering... This flash unit is great. Too bad I can only use it manually. So, I need a new body. I can't really afford a new one, and I don't mind using old equipment at all. I'm just a bit confused about what to purchase. I shoot almost exclusively in manual mode. I don't really see myself using any fancy automatic programmed picture type settings. I do need a good meter reading in the viewfinder, quick shutter/aperture adjustment, the ability to do exposure compensation, and of course--support for my new flash. I've been thinking that perhaps I should purchase a used PZ-20. Any suggestions? My suggestion, if you can find one in your affordability range, is a ZX-5n. There'll be practically no learning curve going to that camera from a ZX-M. In fact, you might consider replacing your -M with the -5n if you need to squeeze some extra bucks from somewhere. ERN
Re: OT: First US Popular TV Drama
Hopalong Cassidy never struck me as a drama. Ryan Lee wrote: My lecturer/tutor at uni, Dr Alan Mckee, author of Australian Television: A Geneaology of Great Moments, selected Hopalong Cassidy (1949) and after a deluge of suggestions (and bargaining! The shows everyone mentioned all came up..), consensus was that 1950 was a reasonable year to settle on. Hopalong Cassidy: http://web.cnjnet.com/~mweinber/hoppy.html Job well done, panel! Thanks much! Ryan
OT: In search of the ulitmate lens
The future may be very exciting, optically at least. http://www.research.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage.asp?lNodeId=13lArticleId= CRB
Re: PAW--FisheyeWaterFall Redux
I wish my lens film combination were that good. The dam itself is actually curved, and the image is full frame. The fisheye only added the curve to the horizon. I unintentionally put a little of myself into that photo, the lower right hand corner of that shot is the railing on the bridge I was standing on. The lower right is my hand. frank theriault wrote: Hi, Peter, I can't pull up the first one (I know I'm several days late with this), but from what I recall of the first one, I do like the second one much better. Kind of kewl the way (what I assume is) a straight edge of a dam is now curved as if the water pours into a bowl. It seems more coherent to my puny brain to process, and thus I can enjoy the other aspects of the scene. The water in the resevoir above the dam looks to be glass smooth; I like the contrast against the falling water. Cool shot! Thanks. frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW--FisheyeWaterFall Redux Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:45:49 -0500 Having taken a few suggestions I re-photographed my second PAW here it is along with the URL of the first for anyone who might be interested. http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_FisheyeWaterfall2.html http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_FisheyeWaterfall.html _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: PAW: More Cows
Thanks, Frank. I prefer His Bovinity, however, 8-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/04 03:52PM Steve, You, sir, are the Cow Man! NOTICE TO EVERYBODY ON THIS LIST: HENCEFORTH, YOU ARE TO REFER TO MR. DESJARDINS AS THE COW MAN! YOU ARE TO ADDRESS HIM AS COW MAN. THIS STARTS IMMEDIATELY! But seriously, Steve, that's really an amazing shot (quite frankly it could have been sheep, goats or any other cud-chewing livestock in place of the cows, but no matter). It really is a complex composition, but you somehow got everything to fall into place in a way which seems to make perfect sense! The fence (two lines, really, the top and the bottom, diverging from left to right), the tree on the left with it's branches merging with the branches from the unseen tree on the right, the slope more or less bisecting the image, the two cows on the slope, two more by the fence. It's all right there, all so coherent, I think it comes together perfectly, all those planes and lines and objects. It's most pleasing to the eye. Well, done, Mr. Cow Man! vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: More Cows Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:30:52 -0500 More bucolic splendor (I even spelled it right this time): http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/ Obviously, this is a picture that relies largely on composition and texture. Any suggestions? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens
Don't know about 'mulimedia software' that fly, but the fluid lenses are interesting. On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 15:57, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: The future may be very exciting, optically at least. http://www.research.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage.asp?lNodeId=13lArticleId= CRB -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentax in the movies
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, mike wilson wrote: But even Thylvethter's film can't be as crap as Silver Dream Racer, a film about (allegedly) motorcycle racing and (undoubtedly) in line for being one of the naffest films ever. It's so bad, I didn't even go to see it! 8-))) As any fule no, the very best motorcycle racing film of all time is No Limit :-) And here's a relevant link (taken with a Pentax LX of course). http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~chris/shuttle.html Yes, it's the crappiest scan ever, I know :-) Chris
New toy finally arrived
Hi all. Well my new to me 28-105 finally arrived Friday,no thanks to the postal service's and Canada CustomsgThat part only took them 3 weeks.D'oh. Looks in great shape and did a dry run with the PZ-1. Now if Pentax Canada will get back to me in regards to my finder problem,all will be good again. Thanks Joe Dave
Re: PAW - HorseShoe Bend
That's a great National Geographic photo. The style seems to be out of favor but I like them. Larry Hodgson wrote: Below is a link to a shot that I made yesterday (Saturday). This is called Horseshoe Bend and is on the Colorado River just below the Glen Canyon Dam in Arizona. This is a world class trout fishing river. The water is crystal clear and cold as it exists the base of the dam. Many people have taken this exact same image, but since it is only 4 hours from my home I thought I would give it a shot. If you look closely you can see some boats and in the full size version (not posted) you can see fishermen in the water. I say Made this image because it is actually from 10 separate images from my *istD with FA 28 lens. I shot in RAW and converted in Photoshop. I stitched together with Panorama Maker 3.0 It was 2 rows 5 wide. Shots were vertical and then rotated during conversion. The resulting image after cropping is 4837x3900 pixels. I also took this shot with my Sigma 14 which just got the entire scene. I was not happy with it because the 14 that I have is one of the first ones and is not very sharp and is low on contrast. With all the discussion lately about full frame sensors and 14 MP sensors and such, this shows what can be done with just 6 MP camera. I know not all subjects can be captured with this technique, but it sure works with landscapes. The saturation was bumped up a little, but this is about what it looks like in person. Comments welcome. Larry from Prescott The Link: http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65384/1/2851282/Large
Re: PAW: More Cows
Yes they are. Thats a fairly nice composition, it prompts me to ask, how much do you pay them to stand in the right positions... Steve Desjardins wrote: More bucolic splendor (I even spelled it right this time): http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/ Obviously, this is a picture that relies largely on composition and texture. Any suggestions? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Porst 135mm 1.8
Did you set the camera to release with lenses without an A position on the lens, (custom function 16 if I remember correctly). Kevin Waterson wrote: I have a Porst 135mm 1.8-16 lense that I cannot get to work with the *istD. I have tried all modes but the camera will not fire. If it is set to M then the shutter speed is displayed but no metering. The same when it is set to Av or Tv. Even in B it will not fire. Any thoughts? Kind regards Kevin
Re: Pentax 28-80/2,8 ?
The only f2.8's that come close to that range are the FA 28-70 and the AF 35-70, that I know of anyway. keller.schaefer wrote: Does any body know of a Pentax 28-80/2,8 (!) sold only in the USA and Switzerland - at least that is what the (Ebay) seller claims (and still does, even after being specifically asked). bdimitrov.de doesn't have it, but it would surely be an interesting lens... Probably just another example of Sorry, I don't know nothing about photography - found these parts in a drawer... - or maybe not? Sven
Explanation of terms
I'm fairly new to the list and was hoping I could get an explanation of the terms: PAW and WOW. I did not find terms on the PDML FAQ and hoped to 'get a clue' from the group. Thanks, Cedric Milan
Re: Explanation of terms
- Original Message - From: Cedric Subject: Explanation of terms I'm fairly new to the list and was hoping I could get an explanation of the terms: PAW and WOW. PAW: Whats on the end of my dog's legs. WOW: What I say when I see my wife. Seriously, PAW is Picture A Week, and is intended to allow us to show off our work to other list members and get either accolades or over ripe fruit tossed our way. WOW: I don't actually know what it stands for, but it seems to involve digitally restoring or repairing images that are posted from time to time. William Robb
Re: Explanation of terms
PAW = Picture a Week: List members can post photos made with any gear for comments criticism or suggestions, or just for fun. WOW = Workshop of the Week: List members post photos that they would like some editing help with, maybe Photoshop adjustments, and so on. Other listers make the adjustments, noting what they did and how they did it, and the results are available for all to see. In both the PAW and the WOW there is generally a great camaraderie, and all who participate or observe get to learn something. shel belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fairly new to the list and was hoping I could get an explanation of the terms: PAW and WOW. I did not find terms on the PDML FAQ and hoped to 'get a clue' from the group. Thanks, Cedric Milan
Re: Whats the better 50mm
They both have the same optical formula, which is best probably boils down to sample variation. You'll like the manual focus feel of the A/50 much better than the FA. William Robb wrote: Optically, what are the differences between the A/50mm f/1.4 and the FA50mm f/1.4? Thanks William Robb
Re: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens
A direct link: http://www.research.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FNewPressRelease.asp?lArticleId=2904lNodeId=13 S Collin Brendemuehl wrote: The future may be very exciting, optically at least. http://www.research.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage.asp?lNodeId=13lArticleId= CRB
Re: Purchasing a second body
It's the MZ-6 in Europe. Many of your nomenclature questions can be answered here: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ Keith Whaley wrote: I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. Last, does Australia follow Europe's Pentax designations? Thanks, keith whaley Trevor Bailey wrote: G'day All. I picked up an as new ZX-L from KEH.com for a very good price. The only gripe was that they shipped it UPS. Bloody shipping, customs duty, GST cost more that the ZX-L. I will never have anything shipped to Australia via UPS again. The next time I buy from keh.com, I will ask if they can ship via USPS. The ZX-L is fantastic. It leaves the MZ-7 for dead. Anybody want to buy a MZ-7 ? :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton, OZ -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Purchasing a second body Find a ZX/MZ-L It suits your need very nicely... I'd second that. For example if you have FG battery grip it will fit MZ-6 (ZX-L, MZ-L - same camera, different names). Other than that, this is the last modern Pentax that is compatible with all lenses and seems to have most of flash automation bells and whistles... It is cheap too... I have one, so that if you need to know more, feel free to ask, including off-list. HTH. Boris
Re: PAW - HorseShoe Bend
--- Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great National Geographic photo. The style seems to be out of favor but I like them. Larry Hodgson wrote: Below is a link to a shot that I made yesterday (Saturday). This is called Horseshoe Bend and is on the Colorado River just below the Glen Canyon Dam in Arizona. And I like 'em too. When the first photographers treked out into the hills and valleys of the USA they conveyed a sense of awe and wonder, this image taken with the latest technology shows just that same sense... Awesome, Wonderful. Tom (humbled) ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Re: Whats the better 50mm
- Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling Subject: Re: Whats the better 50mm They both have the same optical formula, which is best probably boils down to sample variation. You'll like the manual focus feel of the A/50 much better than the FA. William Robb wrote: Optically, what are the differences between the A/50mm f/1.4 and the FA50mm f/1.4? Thanks Thanks Peter. I am actually wanting it for the istD, so I will probably go for the FA. I already have about a dozen manual focus 50mm lenses, but if the A was considered better than the FA, I would look at it anyway. William Robb
Question on RTF flash usage with SF1/SF1n
The SF1/SFX and SF1n/SFXn cameras, the series that introduced the RTF TTL flash to the SLR world, were nevertheless criticized (in reviews, at least) for the limited film range the flash was useable with: ASA 25-400. Does this mean that the flash won't fire at all with ASA 800 film in the camera, for example, or that it will fire but the exposures will be a stop overexposed? And if overexposure is the case, would exposure compensation take care of the problem, at least where flash is the dominant source of light in the scene? Joe -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
Re: Music from our musicians?
Okay, after all this (very diverting, amusing interesting!) I will reveal my true self ;-) here: http://www.MurderAtTheRegistry.com Of course it's very unhip 80ties Postpunk-stuff, but who cares - not me :-) There are also some mp3s to download, albeit not the latest ones. And of course:some pix of gigs, when I put my PZ-1 with 85mm lens into the hands of some buddy...now this is on-topic again, isn't it? ;-) Thomas I have done a fair amount of recording and could probably convert something to MP3, but I would have to warn you - I was a 'metal' musician before hand problems made me a 'former' musician. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
Re: Explanation of terms
You are in serious trouble now... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fairly new to the list and was hoping I could get an explanation of the terms: PAW and WOW. I did not find terms on the PDML FAQ and hoped to 'get a clue' from the group. Thanks, Cedric Milan
RE: In search of the ulitmate lens
Intereting. Its eems to me photography looks more like the human eye fvery day - first the digital sensor, then the lens! all the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. marts 2004 15:58 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens The future may be very exciting, optically at least. http://www.research.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage.asp?lNode Id=13lArticleId= CRB
OT: Damn Windows!
Trying again: - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: OT: Damn Windows! Dear friends, I've got a silly problem with Windows 98, and I hope someboby will be able to suggest me a solution. In case, please reply me off-list. When I browse through folders and files using explorer, all files are sorted as I like (e.g. alphabetical order). When I have to either open or import a file from inside a running software, the possible files are always shown sorted in reverse order of their respective date/time, which is useless for finding the proper file to import into PageMaker (typical application). So I have to sort the files before I can start looking for the file I need. This happens every time, so in case I have to import 200 images into a PageMaker file I have to sort files 200 times! This strange behaviour has started after I re-installed Windows 98 on a new bigger hard-disk. Any idea about how replacing the damn auto-reverse-date-sorting with a useful file name sorting? I repeat, the problem happens only when browsing through files within active applications. Thanks, Dario
Re: Explanation of terms
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:12:47 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW: What I say when I see my wife. You see. You can be diplomatic when you want to be! :-) John -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: [WARNING] Optical Physics/Math Question
That begins to make sense. I will have to run sum numbers and see if I can not get my head around it. Bob Blakely wrote: The energy dispersion math relates to angle. f/(N/2) is the cotangent of an angle. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Whats the better 50mm
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Peter J. Alling wrote: down to sample variation. You'll like the manual focus feel of the A/50 much better than the FA. Except if you are me :-) Kostas
Re: OT: First US Popular TV Drama
Surely you mean Drama, my good man. Take off that high hat, opera cape, and the monocular. You are fooling no one. -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hopalong Cassidy never struck me as a drama. Ryan Lee wrote: My lecturer/tutor at uni, Dr Alan Mckee, author of Australian Television: A Geneaology of Great Moments, selected Hopalong Cassidy (1949) and after a deluge of suggestions (and bargaining! The shows everyone mentioned all came up..), consensus was that 1950 was a reasonable year to settle on. Hopalong Cassidy: http://web.cnjnet.com/~mweinber/hoppy.html Job well done, panel! Thanks much! Ryan -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
RE: Damaged Wedding Photo
Some of the results are awesome as I tried a bit the other day and got no where close to what some of the guys did. I'm getting the impression though that some of you had a better original file to work with then the original one posted. Did you send a bigger version to the participants Kevin? If so I still wouldn't mind having a go just for practice. I would make a suggestion that if it is doable rathen sending a bigger version of files to each one requesting it, rather post a bigger version for download on personal web space somewhere. Dave -Original Message- From: Kevin Thornsberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 11:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo Sorry, I forgot to put WOW in the title. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Thornsberry Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:22 PM To: PDML Subject: WOW: Damaged Wedding Photo WOWers, Here's a bit of a challenge. I found a framed picture from when my parents got married. Somehow portions of the picture had stuck to the glass. Before trying to remove the picture I decided to scan it glass and all. Here's the result. http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/81452/1/2829205 In addition to the parts that are stuck, you can see the picture has faded due to the dark border where no light had hit the picture. I did my best with it a couple of years ago. With what some of you have accomplished with the WOW I thought I'd throw it out there for you to try. In a day or so I'll post the submissions as well as what I was able to do. Thanks. Kevin
Re: Re:Damaged wedding photo results
Um... As all good magicians, we don't really give away our secrets. But since it's you asking...:-) The first thing to do is always to make a copy of the background layer. If in doubt, you can then always take a look at the original by just turning off the visibility of the copy. With Kevin's image, this was very useful for fresh looks at the line of the cheekbone, the necklace and the lips. You'll need time in good measure anyway. Guess that's the hardest trick to pull in most cases. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:40 AM Subject: Re:Damaged wedding photo results I am ,once again,at a loss at the possibilities shown by these people,in particular Jostein although all are meritorius,but then it is all done by mirrors isn't itisn't itPlease people ,come on,own up!Not even a little mirror.Not even a sliver?Shsh. Regards Chris Kennedy
Re: Question on RTF flash usage with SF1/SF1n
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Joe Wilensky wrote: The SF1/SFX and SF1n/SFXn cameras, the series that introduced the RTF TTL flash to the SLR world, were nevertheless criticized (in reviews, at least) for the limited film range the flash was useable with: ASA 25-400. Does this mean that the flash won't fire at all with ASA 800 film in the camera, for example, or that it will fire but the exposures will be a stop overexposed? I will see what happens tonight with an unloaded camera, by setting the ISO explicitly. I have heard (but not confirmed) that the MZs only do TTL flash up to 800 ISO too; it could be just that they are a bit better that the SFXn in that department. Kostas
Re: C-41 Tetenal Tabs Kit continued
Welcome back, Don. Jostein - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: P: C-41 Tetenal Tabs Kit continued I see I omitted to say in the previous post that one dose of 150 ml is enough, according to the instructions, for 2 x 36 exposure films -- one after the other. So far I've processed 6 x 24 exposure films in 300 ml (over a week) and intend to do at least another one. The results so far are as good as they've ever been. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See Extra Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!
Re: Photo joke
I don't get it. Nor do I. Nothing amusing there.
PAW: More Cows
Those of us in technology will only photograph tucows at a time. :) Collin
Re: Purchasing a second body
Thanks, Peter. I actually knew that, but it didn't pop up when I was thinking about the various names. A minor retrieval problem...faulty RAM, you know. keith Peter J. Alling wrote: It's the MZ-6 in Europe. Many of your nomenclature questions can be answered here: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ Keith Whaley wrote: I'm going to leave a little more of the previous messages than I usually do, for continuity. I'm a little confused here. Has to do with camera body nomenclature. I had made a notation that what Pentax markets in the U.S. as a ZX-L is called the MZ-6 in Europe. Yes? No? I think the unknown poster might have been wrong, and I'm trying to get it straight. I suspect it's really the MZ-L instead. [...]
Re: Photo joke
I get it ... not funny ... perhaps more a contemporary homage to Dorothea Lange than a joke. John Francis wrote: I don't get it. Nor do I. Nothing amusing there.
PPAW
In addition to keeping up with e-mail, deleting spam, checking for viruses, miscellaneous software upgrades, I now feel that I have to download and install a Pentax Program a Week. Joe
FS: 6x7 outfits
All for sale, but hoping to sell as complete outfit: 67II w/ AE prism, strap, cap Excellent cond. 6x7 w/ prism, polaroid back, 2 standard backs, strap, cap Bargain cond. 400/4 Takumar w/case, caps Excellent cond. 165/2.8 SMC w/case, caps Excellent cond. 105/2.5 Tak w/case, caps Excellent cond. 55/4 SMC w/case, caps Excellent cond. Close up extension set, extra #2 w/case Excellent cond. 67 to K adapter, boxed Like new cond. Wood grip Excellent cond. Focus handle for 165/2.8 Excellent cond. Rubber eyepiece for 6x7 Excellent cond. 67II, 67 original manuals; 6x7 photocopy manual Ex; BGN cond. Tamrak photo backpack, fit all above but 400/4 Ex- cond. Serious offers on all or parts considered. Photos available. Please email off list. Thanks. Jay
Re: PRA
jtainter a écrit : In addition to keeping up with e-mail, deleting spam, checking for viruses, miscellaneous software upgrades, I now feel that I have to download and install a Pentax Program a Week. and .. PRA I want download Pentax Remote Assistant !
Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies
A friend of mine (who owns Ferraris) says: Porsches have no soul. To him they are too functional and lack the style and soul of his Italian works of art. Personally, I've always liked the 911 and all its derivatives. Another friend, who has had the chance to drive many cars in a spirited fashion, hated the Carrera 4 (all-wheel-drive version of the 911) because it couldn't be upset under any driving conditions. It was too perfect. Of course he drives his Miata on the sidewalls Christian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:43 AM Subject: Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies Wow, this may be the first time I've ever heard anyone express this. I really like a lot of the Porsche cars, both race and street. Trying to see what about them might put you of so much...nope, they're cool. Guess we disagree on that one. Cory - Original Message - From: mike wilson Hmmm. Not sure I've _ever_ seen a beautiful Porsche. To me they are all brutal, fugly (not to mention stolen) designs. m
F: Epson scanner (was C-41 Tetenal Tabs Kit continued)
Thanks Jos. I bought a big bag of outdated film a month or so ago thinking it would last a while. But it's going faster than I thought possible. I'll have to find more soon. But I do have a dozen or so chromes -- Astia -- and as soon as I get chemicals I'll be able to try it out. By the way and couple of months ago I acquired a scanner -- paid for by the proceeds of an eBay sale. It's an Epson Perfection 3200 Photo. It's great! So great that I gave the Olympus S-10 to the University. They've set it up in one of the labs for scanning pictures from a 35 mm camera on one of the microscopes. I feel a little better now -- after having received several thousands of Euros worth of very good equipment from them. True it was not being used and would probably have been scrapped. Just one of the cameras (there were three) is worth it's weight in gold to me. Not to mention the couple of dozen objective lenses and the condensers. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See Extra Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy! - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: C-41 Tetenal Tabs Kit continued Welcome back, Don. Jostein - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: P: C-41 Tetenal Tabs Kit continued I see I omitted to say in the previous post that one dose of 150 ml is enough, according to the instructions, for 2 x 36 exposure films -- one after the other. So far I've processed 6 x 24 exposure films in 300 ml (over a week) and intend to do at least another one. The results so far are as good as they've ever been. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See Extra Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!
ONLY - Pug march is available on my website
Hi folks, since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at least the March PUG on my own website. This means: Some links on this page are NOT!!! working. But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the pictures of March. Since I changed some typos directly on the komkon server the descriptions and other things are not ok on some pages. But the pics should be there. I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available! No archives as such. So now the issue of the URL It will change each month at present it is: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04mar I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out for good. If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The address on the page DOESN'T work!!! I hope this helps a little. Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the komkon server. Cheers Adelheid
Re: Photo joke
Looks like there is a Dorothea Lange in Germany - and the images are a joke compared to the real ones. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: mike.wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 4:11 PM Subject: Photo joke http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/account/myprofile/437177 click on meine fotos mike
OT: First US Popular TV Drama
Ryan,
Hopalong Cassidy ('49) was probably more of a kids show than a drama that aired in the
evening for adults. The Lone Ranger and Hoppy were the start of kids merchandising
tie-ins. But they were dramas for Saturday morning TV, when the kids were home from
school. Of course, Howdy Doody ('47) was the first kid's show and aired daily for
years.
Quite a trip down memory lane, whatever vague memories I have from '49... :-)
Regards, Bob S.
Ryan writes:
My lecturer/tutor at uni, Dr Alan Mckee, author of Australian Television: A
Geneaology of Great Moments, selected Hopalong Cassidy (1949) and after a
deluge of suggestions (and bargaining! The shows everyone mentioned all came
up..), consensus was that 1950 was a reasonable year to
settle on.
Re: PAW - HorseShoe Bend
Larry, I agree with Tom. It's a wonderful shot. I like it so much that I put a copy into the rotation I use for wallpaper. Will you be printing big copies of it for sale? Regards, Bob S. Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: --- Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great National Geographic photo. The style seems to be out of favor but I like them. Larry Hodgson wrote: Below is a link to a shot that I made yesterday (Saturday). This is called Horseshoe Bend and is on the Colorado River just below the Glen Canyon Dam in Arizona. And I like 'em too. When the first photographers treked out into the hills and valleys of the USA they conveyed a sense of awe and wonder, this image taken with the latest technology shows just that same sense... Awesome, Wonderful. Tom (humbled)
Re: PAW - HorseShoe Bend for sale, etc.
Bob S. wrote: Larry, I agree with Tom. It's a wonderful shot. I like it so much that I put a copy into the rotation I use for wallpaper. Will you be printing big copies of it for sale? Regards, Bob S. Thanks again to all for the kind words on HorseShoe Bend. Bob, I'll be getting an Epson 4000 later this summer. When I do, I'll be able to print up to 17 wide and as long as need be. Some of my images can now be purchased from http://www.photoglow.com/ Check out this web site. Photoglow is backlit frames for photographs. I have several in my house and they are spectacular. I am one of the featured artists at this site and my images can be purchased there. I'll be adding HorseShoe Bend and some others shortly. This site has just resently been revised and a few of the images in my gallery are not actually mine. This will soon be corrected. Check it out and see what you think. Larry from Prescott
RE: More UPS bashing: Re: Purchasing a second body
H... That would work on t-shirts, Bill. You'd sell a boatload of 'em. g -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dreaming of a UPS free world. _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: My discovery ;-)
Neither my MX nor LX have Av or Tv dials. No menus either. Perhaps I got defective samples. I'll write to Pentax Canada and axe. vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My discovery ;-) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:28:15 +1030 I didn't know it until yesterday, when I discovered it by accident. While navigating through the menu, instead of using the fiddly button at the back of the camera, one can use the Av and Tv dials to go up and down and left and right. Maybe everyone knows about it, but just in case someone does not - I am sharing my discovery with you ;-D (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: My discovery ;-)
Now you tell me. -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course I am talking about *istD and the menu on the back. (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: ONLY - Pug march is available on my website
That is why I am hesitant to report this Adelheid: hen I click on my submission, I see there are three photographs on the page. The second and third are not mine. But thanks for doing this, the photo's load very fast. On Mon, 2004-03-15 at 22:38, Peter J. Alling wrote: As this is above and beyond the call of duty how could we complain. Adelheid v. K. wrote: Hi folks, since der komkon server seems to be down again I decided to put at least the March PUG on my own website. This means: Some links on this page are NOT!!! working. But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the pictures of March. Since I changed some typos directly on the komkon server the descriptions and other things are not ok on some pages. But the pics should be there. I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month is available! No archives as such. So now the issue of the URL It will change each month at present it is: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04mar I will work out something more convenient if the komkon server stays out for good. If you have complaints questions about this site please use the mailing address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The address on the page DOESN'T work!!! I hope this helps a little. Please be patient, the server connection is not as good as the one on the komkon server. Cheers Adelheid -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: A mouse is born
Hi, George Pake died recently. He led the team at Xerox PARC that produced the Star system, the forerunner of all the commercial GUI/WIMP systems we now use. http://news.independent.co.uk/people/obituaries/story.jsp?story=501284 While surfing around just now looking for information about him, I came across this interesting little snippet which many people may not have seen: http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?Douglas+Engelbart It shows 3 video clips from 1968 of Englebart giving one of the first public demos of the mouse and hyperlinking. Work which led directly to the Xerox PARC stuff that Pake led. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Purchasing a second body
They were hoping you'd buy four. John On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:39:43 -0800, Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is quite common to have 2 names for some Pentax cameras, but 4??? What were they thinking? Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Let it be clear g, MZ-6, ZX-L, ZX-6, and MZ-L are different names of the same body. I've no idea where is natural habitat of each of these names, but the body is the same. _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
RE: OT: Frank the Superhero.
Cesar and Malcolm, Actually, I do many of my own bike repairs. That's one thing about track bikes - not much to go wrong/replace. A new chain (I have a chain breaker) every couple of months or so (time to get one, BTW), along with a daily clean and oil of the chain is about it. But, yeah, I can tighten wheel bearings, replace or tighten BB's, I have a crank puller, I can replace and tighten spokes, and sort of true a wheel (but not very well). I used to have old style wheels and BB's that were cup and cone type bearings. So I learned how to strip, clean and repack those (what a freaking PIA). Back in the old days, when I had a bike with gears and brakes, I could adjust and do maintenance on those things as well. I'm happy to no longer have to do that crap, though. But, when I buy a new part, I'm just as happy to get someone to install it who knows what they're doing. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Frank the Superhero. Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:16:40 -0500 But Frank is so common you can deny it all... If you need a repairman for your bike bring it here... I have restored a few and used to maintain a few for friends over the years. I have many of the necessary tools, except for alignment. But that was a few years ago, with the latest gear I may be lacking in tools. But I know that I can at least service my Bianchis and just about anything before 1995... César Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:45 AM Nah... I just rides 'em. Someone else (who knows what they're doing, and has proper tools) repairs 'em. vbg cheers, frank (who's always a bit apprehensive to see a subject line with my name on it g) The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Frank the Superhero. Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:32:17 - frank theriault wrote: Non sequitor: Speaking of mantras, my sister gave me a t-shirt for Christmas, which says: I'm kind of like a superhero, with no powers or motivation. Kind of sums up my life. My sister knows me all too well. You're NOT 'Bicycle Repair Man'? Malcolm _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens
AFAIK, the human eye does not alter its focal length by changing it's shape. It doesn't alter it's focal length at all! Unless I'm in the minority in being unable to zoom in and out. g I guess they meant focus? Or maybe they meant that (no matter what the human eye does) their lenses will be able to zoom and focus by changing the shape of the lens elements. As they said, it's first applications will be low cost optics, such as cell phone cams. They also mentioned endoscopes (eeew!), so I guess they'd be great where compactness is an issue. I personally applaud endoscopes with smaller tubes. g I wonder how long, or indeed if, they'll be able to apply this technology to higher end camera optics. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:57:47 -0500 The future may be very exciting, optically at least. http://www.research.philips.com/InformationCenter/Global/FHomepage.asp?lNodeId=13lArticleId= CRB _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: My discovery ;-)
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: RE: My discovery ;-) Neither my MX nor LX have Av or Tv dials. No menus either. Perhaps I got defective samples. I'll write to Pentax Canada and axe. vbg They both certainly have Av and TV dials, though no menus. If yours are missing those parts, you probably want to send the equipment off for repairs. William Robb
Re: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens
frank theriault wrote: AFAIK, the human eye does not alter its focal length by changing it's shape. It doesn't alter it's focal length at all! Unless I'm in the minority in being unable to zoom in and out. g you can't??? you must be kidding. the next thing you'll tell us that you focus your eyes by turning a knurled ring and adjust to the light using click-stop dials? but seriously, they (phillips) seem to use capillar forces to do the trick, which should limit the lens diameter to pretty small sizes. in theory anyway. mishka
RE: PAW:Colorful Keys
Not my taste, I'm afraid. I think it would be a nice shot left bw. The comp's really nice. I find the coloured keys a distraction. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PAW:Colorful Keys Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:30:05 -0700 I guess that would help. http://www.davidmadsen.com/paw.htm David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PAW:Colorful Keys (opening up the envelope) ...and the url IS... vbg -frank, pretending to be an Oscar presenter, and finding the card in the envelope blank, and then having the whole audience laugh at me - a recurring nightmare! The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW:Colorful Keys Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:08:52 -0700 Just a little goofing around with hand coloring a BW print. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=htt p://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
OT: Photo.net down again! What do you use?
These guys are really starting to piss me off. They were down last week for several days, IIRC. I put up my PAW on Saturday evening, and about an hour after they posted, down again. Yesterday morning, still down. Going yesterday afternoon and evening. Now, down again for the last couple of hours that I've been home this afternoon and evening. It's really hard to get comments when no one can see the damn thing! I'm going to have to find another place where I can post photos. What does anyone else use, and how do you like it? thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: My discovery ;-)
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: My discovery ;-) Just went and checked. No Av dial. No Tv dial. I'm quite certain that I got bad cameras. I recall that I got the MX from you. Can I have a refund? Nope, that MX went out the door with a TV dial, you must have lost it. It's the little dial on the top right with all the numbers. The AV dial is the one on the lens nearest the body, and is user replacable by switching lenses, in case your camera is missing it. William Robb
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
thermal noise will cause pixels to be bright enough to seem like a hot pixel on a long enough exposure. dark field subtraction can remove only pixels that hot in the dark field. if the actual exposure has bright pixels different from the dark field, they will remain. Photoshop can detect these and filter them out. the camera could too. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I must admit I am slightly puzzled - I thought the in-camera NR (dark frame subtraction) was supposed to get rid of ALL hot pixels by removing any hot pixels in the dark frame from the resultant picture, presumably interpolating a best guess of what should be there. So why do you get ANY hot pixels with NR on?
Re: OT: Photo.net down again! What do you use?
I spend too much money for an unlimited Earthlink account. 10 meg of webspace for each e-mail address and I'm allowed to create up to 7 for the price of one. On the upside I can post just about anything I want to. frank theriault wrote: These guys are really starting to piss me off. They were down last week for several days, IIRC. I put up my PAW on Saturday evening, and about an hour after they posted, down again. Yesterday morning, still down. Going yesterday afternoon and evening. Now, down again for the last couple of hours that I've been home this afternoon and evening. It's really hard to get comments when no one can see the damn thing! I'm going to have to find another place where I can post photos. What does anyone else use, and how do you like it? thanks, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW: More Cows
I'm not offended or confused, I'm in pain! Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: At 16:40 2004.03.15 -0500, you wrote: From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARR. Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Those of us in technology will only photograph tucows at a time. :) Collin Sorry to offend or confuse. I thought it was funny. In a geeky sort of way. Collin
RE: OT: In search of the ulitmate lens
On 15 Mar 2004 at 18:39, frank theriault wrote: AFAIK, the human eye does not alter its focal length by changing it's shape. It doesn't alter it's focal length at all! Unless I'm in the minority in being unable to zoom in and out. g I guess they meant focus? No, it changes it's FL by modifying the lens shape. Since the lens to retinal distance is effectively fixed objects can only be focused by altering the FL. http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/docs/physics/u6a12phy.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Photo.net down again! What do you use?
Fellow biker Frank, Yes, I also got annoyed at not getting in to photo.net. Last week, a post by Jens Bladt took me to http://fotopic.net/ It looks alright, or maybe even good, as they are lots of customising stuff. I registered for an account, but haven't yet made any use of it. Good luck, Lasse - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:27 AM Subject: OT: Photo.net down again! What do you use? These guys are really starting to piss me off. They were down last week for several days, IIRC. I put up my PAW on Saturday evening, and about an hour after they posted, down again. Yesterday morning, still down. Going yesterday afternoon and evening. Now, down again for the last couple of hours that I've been home this afternoon and evening. It's really hard to get comments when no one can see the damn thing! I'm going to have to find another place where I can post photos. What does anyone else use, and how do you like it? thanks, frank
Re: PAW: sparrows
they weren't making a lot of sounds when i was watching them. i'm still learning about birding, so i would have to sit and study them as opposed to concentrating on taking the photos. it took about an hour of standing beside the car before they got comfortable enough to come as close as they did. staying in the car, they would have been on the wrong end of the car, out the back and i wouldn't have been able to see them much. tripod - Gitzo 1325 CF with the 1377M ball head and dovetail QR adapter for my Arca Swiss lens plate. the combination is about the right size. i wouldn't go any heavier in load without attaching a stablizing weight to the center column. the ball head had its tension up but not locked so i could move it fairly quickly but it would stay more or less where i let go of it. i think a Wimberly would make things a lot easier. Herb... - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: Re: PAW: sparrows Nice shots, Herb - they do look like song sparrows. Did they say maids maids put on your tea kettle kettle ? Tripod or bean bag? Or hand held?
Re: OT:Racing Movies-was:Pentaxc in the movies
On Mar 15, 2004, at 5:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: Must have been aerodynamics or suspension or something, because I refuse to believe that those big Chevy V8's could move the cars as fast as that Turbo. It wasn't aerodynamics. In truth, it's not hard to make well over 1000 horsepower with a normally aspirated Chevy V8. The ports and valves are sewer size, and the chamber design allows for at least 13.5:1 compression ratio with little valve restriction. That's horsepower. The engine doesn't know it has pushrods. Hell, the world's most powerful automotive engines are pushrod engines. Top fuel drag racing engines now make around 8000 horsepower from 8 liters. That would be 8 litres to the Porsche boys g.
RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
But surely if it is a hot pixel then it will always be hot at that exposure? If it was only hot for one of the two frames then it must have been an error in the data rather than a stuck hot pixel. It is my understanding that the dark frame exposure is the same 'shutter' time as the main shot, so if it is truly hot it should be there too. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2004 00:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test thermal noise will cause pixels to be bright enough to seem like a hot pixel on a long enough exposure. dark field subtraction can remove only pixels that hot in the dark field. if the actual exposure has bright pixels different from the dark field, they will remain. Photoshop can detect these and filter them out. the camera could too. Herb... - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test I must admit I am slightly puzzled - I thought the in-camera NR (dark frame subtraction) was supposed to get rid of ALL hot pixels by removing any hot pixels in the dark frame from the resultant picture, presumably interpolating a best guess of what should be there. So why do you get ANY hot pixels with NR on?
Re: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test
there are other pixels coming through bright enough to register as hot because of thermal noise. note that the test program is using a pretty liberal definition of hot. thermal noise can be pretty high on some sensors. look at the actual TIFF image and see just how bright they are. it takes some extra work, but you can detect some hot pixels against a dark background and filter them out even without dark field subtraction. there are not many things in nature of a color that happens to trigger only one pixel and no adjacent ones. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: RE: *ist D Pixel Comparison Test But surely if it is a hot pixel then it will always be hot at that exposure? If it was only hot for one of the two frames then it must have been an error in the data rather than a stuck hot pixel. It is my understanding that the dark frame exposure is the same 'shutter' time as the main shot, so if it is truly hot it should be there too.
Re: My discovery ;-)
As a work-around solution, I suggest you get yourself a pen and a couple of sticky labels. S frank theriault wrote: Just to make certain, I went and put a lens (it was a Pentax lens, just to make sure there are no compatibilty problems) on and off each body several times. I didn't see anything that said Av on either the lens or the bodies. I'm getting worried now. Also checked the manuals for both bodies. Nowhere is the letters Av or Tv mentioned. Obviously a flaw in both manuals as well. Damn that Pentax!! thanks for your concern and help, Bill, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My discovery ;-) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:44:31 -0600 Let me rephrase slightly. If a lens is mounted, then there will likely be an AV dial present. - Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: My discovery ;-) From: frank theriault Neither my MX nor LX have Av or Tv dials. No menus either. Perhaps I got defective samples. I'll write to Pentax Canada and axe. vbg They both certainly have Av and TV dials, though no menus. If yours are missing those parts, you probably want to send the equipment off for repairs. William Robb _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Purchasing a second body
Another world 1st I supposed? g Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan They were hoping you'd buy four. John _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Purchasing a second body
How about pink colour LIMITED for ladies? Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Pentax's marketing strategy has been revealed. Now they have to think up something else. Way to go John. _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
