Re: [Emc-users] OT: Balluff BRGE1-WSE10 encoder

2024-04-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 4/10/24 08:46, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: Are you sure that the machine uses an encoder for the turret positioning? The fact that it will work at some tool positions seems to sound more like it has a series of switches, and that one of them isn't working. The switches might be

Re: [Emc-users] black list aliexpress

2024-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 3/18/24 07:53, Todd Zuercher via Emc-users wrote: Gene, In all honesty I wouldn't mind knowing more about your VFD source you say you want black listed. I'm so sick of trying to track down high speed VFDs that I'm almost tempted to pay the machine manufacturer's ridiculous 3X normal

Re: [Emc-users] Stepping through linuxcnc

2023-12-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/10/23 17:08, alanmthomason--- via Emc-users wrote: Hi There.I am looking for guidance to build linuxcnc in a way that I can step through it. I can build currently, but in trying to understand the underlying code I was hoping to use a debugger to step through it. I could not find any

Re: [Emc-users] OT Fanuc ot-c cpu power supply A16B-1212-0950

2023-12-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/5/23 11:26, Todd Zuercher wrote: I think all Fanuc red cap encoders are digital. The question marks are if the coms signal is differential quadrature or serial and if serial what format, and what the commutation tracks/signals are or if they are rolled into the absolute encoder serial

Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

2023-10-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/4/23 05:39, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: How would that be handled if plastic pipe was used to build a large pipe organ? On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM MDT, Todd Zuercher wrote: Remember, blowing large quantities of air though PVC plumbing can build up

[Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 1/18/23 18:29, Jon Elson wrote: Daniel Rogge of Tormach has mentioned that he is trying to set up a meeting in April with Robert Ellenberg, John Morris and Alex Rossler over a weekend.  Does anybody have a specific date they would prefer or can't attend?  We could possibly set up a meeting

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Air cooled router spindle problem

2023-03-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 3/4/23 14:08, gene heskett wrote: Yup, I agree with Gene, if the motor was not spinning AT ALL, but the VFD or motor was making a whining sound, it may mean the VFD was only powering one phase winding. That would indicate a VFD failure.  Did you unplug anything while waiting for it to

[Emc-users] US midwest LinuxCNC meeting

2023-02-02 Thread Jon Elson
During one of the LinuxCNC group chats, I got myself elected to set up a US meeting of LinuxCNC-interested people. After checking several possibilities, Tormach stepped up and offered to host it.  They are in the Madison, WI area, although they have moved out of the Waunakee office/lab space

Re: [Emc-users] Resolvers and 2 phase AC servos

2023-01-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 1/21/23 19:34, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: One thing that might cause some ... well, "issues" is my resolvers are used to determine the absolute angular position of my two rotational axes, ie they are driven off the axes themselves after the gearing, not off the motors before the

[Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit finally in production

2022-11-18 Thread Jon Elson
Well, I wanted to give an update.  I finally ran some production parts on my retrofitted R2E3. I had some issues with the spindle VFD causing communication errors between the PC and my PPMC boards, and fixed that by running a ground wire between the PC and the PPMC card cage. Then, I had an

[Emc-users] Need Kwik Switch 200 toolign

2022-11-15 Thread Jon Elson
I am setting up a Bridgeport R2E3 (Boss 8) mill, and need to get a bunch of Universal Kwik Switch 200 tooling.  I am having a VERY difficult time finding any that are affordable.  I can still buy it new from Universal DeVlieg for about $250 per each arbor or holder, but that is going to add

Re: [Emc-users] Protel99 SE Drill file to G-CODE for LinuxCNC or MACH3.

2022-11-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/1/22 16:58, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 21:23, John Dammeyer wrote: Anyway. Does anyone know of a Protel 99SE drill file conversion program to G-Code for CNC? I found this: https://github.com/DJ027X/drl2ngc But looking at the code I am not sure it copes with lines that

Re: [Emc-users] losing encoder counts

2022-10-05 Thread Jon Elson
Wow, it gets deeper! It is NOT the encoder, or anything in the encoder-reading process. I marked the motor shaft, and the motor is returning to the exact same position every cycle. Well, I tried a different indicator and mount, and the problem was in the indicator mount!  I was using an

Re: [Emc-users] losing encoder counts

2022-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/2/22 19:34, John Dammeyer wrote: Oh boy does that bring back memories. I started with the US Digital Encoders on the DC Servos. According to the designer of the PIC upgrade board for the HP_UHU Servo drive the US Digital were crap and caused nothing but problems. I switched to CUI and

[Emc-users] losing encoder counts

2022-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
I thought I was about done with my R2E3 retrofit project. But, doing some testing, I found it was losing a little bit of position when moving. Every axis shows this, but it is worst on the Y axis. I have a program that moves Y 3" back and then returns to the indicator. It seems like at 12IPM

Re: [Emc-users] XSY inverters (VFD)

2022-09-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 9/23/22 17:24, gene heskett wrote: Each brand of vfd seems to have its own setup. But that lf boost is a tricky one. I don't know if that invertor shows you the amperage being delivered but it seems it would be an odd one if it didn't. What you normally do is read the motors nameplate for

[Emc-users] XSY inverters (VFD)

2022-09-23 Thread Jon Elson
Does anybody know the XSY Inverters? I have an XSY-AT1 Inverter (VFD) and I have it mostly programmed just fine.  To get good torque at lower speeds, I turned up parameter P72 (Torque compensation setting) and that worked great at the lowest speeds.  But, at higher speeds, the motor current

Re: [Emc-users] Hey guys. Need a bit of resistor help

2022-08-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 8/21/22 03:44, Robin Szemeti via Emc-users wrote: The output is open collector NPN ... so if you need PNP (why?) then just use a PNP transistor like so: No, that will cause excessive base current in the PNP transistor.  You need about a 10K resistor in series with the PNP' base wire.

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-08-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/11/22 14:57, linux...@rodes.biz wrote: Jon, I'm working with older AMC analog drives now. 25A20's What is the full part number of your drives? Is it an 30A20AC ? I like the AMC drive, even though I am having tuning problems (I think it is the particular drive and/or motor.) They

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: PCIe parport issues?

2022-07-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/24/22 21:08, Jon Elson wrote: On 7/24/22 19:00, Bari wrote: On 7/24/22 18:31, gene heskett wrote: Both of you need to go play with the /lib/udev/rules giving the real user permissions. Or make your selves members of what ever group udev assigns it. Some dummy has decreed its a security

[Emc-users] Fwd: PCIe parport issues?

2022-07-24 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, I sell a line of motion interfaces for LinuxCNC, and supply Syba PCIe parport cards to go with them.  I am retrofitting a Bridgeport R2E3 mill for my own use, and bought a Dell Optiplex 7010 computer to run it.  I cannot get the Syba cards (with NETMOS MCS9900 or MCS9901 chips)

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-11 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, Is anyone else using AMC 30A20 servo amps?  I now have two of these, waiting for another one to show up on eBay for a decent price.  How hot do these run?  The first one I got had no heat sink, the 2nd one had a heat sink with gigantic fins 1" tall. But, there was no heat sink grease

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/4/22 11:12, Jon Elson wrote: I have managed to get two AMC 30A20 servo amps on eBay, one relatively cheap, the other somewhat expensive.  Now, I need a 3rd.  These are 30A peak 15 A continuous, up to 180 V DC input. These match the current specs of the NC400's that came

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-04 Thread Jon Elson
I have managed to get two AMC 30A20 servo amps on eBay, one relatively cheap, the other somewhat expensive.  Now, I need a 3rd.  These are 30A peak 15 A continuous, up to 180 V DC input. These match the current specs of the NC400's that came with the machine.  But, for the Z axis, maybe less

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-02 Thread Jon Elson
Now, using the engine crane I managed to get the table off and have access to the metering orifices, all EIGHT of them.  I will have to order them from Bijur. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-02 Thread Jon Elson
Well, now that I have all 3 servo amps connected to motors, the whine is quite loud, and closing the cabinet makes little difference.  My ear protectors are designed not to cut voice frequencies, so the 5 KHz goes right through them!  Ugh, they have got to go.  I have verified that all 3 of

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/1/22 20:03, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 01:46, Stuart Stevenson wrote: oh yeah? with being totally deaf in my left ear and 60% loss in my right ear I never heard anything like that! Before or after the Dah-Lih? So, you remember it, too? Jon

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-07-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 6/26/22 00:13, m...@mattshaver.com wrote: On 2022-06-25 18:30, Jon Elson wrote: On 6/25/22 15:56, Jon Elson wrote: Hello, all, I just got an R2E3 Bridgeport mill in my basement, and will be doing a LinuxCNC retrofit. I seem to recall the NC400 servo amps create a maddening squeal

Re: [Emc-users] R2E3 retrofit

2022-06-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 6/25/22 15:56, Jon Elson wrote: Hello, all, I just got an R2E3 Bridgeport mill in my basement, and will be doing a LinuxCNC retrofit. I seem to recall the NC400 servo amps create a maddening squeal, is that correct, or an I remembering some other system? I had to pull the rigid ram

Re: [Emc-users] small hole needle gauge thingy

2022-02-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 2/17/22 06:35, fxkl47BF--- via Emc-users wrote: Take a look at this video at time 16:30 Does anyone recognize this device https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf7DuvcScyk It is a tapered-pin hole diameter gauge.  very quick to use, not terribly accurate. I have a set of fine pin gauges, just

Re: [Emc-users] rotary table re-engineeering

2022-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
I had a Palmgren rotary table with XY linear slides, similar to the one in recent pictures.  The handles were different, otherwise I'd say mine was identical.  But, I found the XY slides to be VERY floppy, it made machining very difficult.  It caused terrible chatter and poor finishes.  I was

Re: [Emc-users] OT: mouses

2022-01-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 1/10/22 11:09 AM, fxkl47BF--- via Emc-users wrote: I'm in the market for a "decent" mouse for cad. There is a passel of them out there. Many of them are very pricey. I'm just a casual user. And a lefty. Do y'all have any recommendations? I can't use a mouse for CAD.  When you go to press a

Re: [Emc-users] Running 440V 3PH 2 speed motor off 220V 3PH or 1PH?

2021-06-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 6/17/21 8:45 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Everything I've read on VFDs says do not feed them from a transformer. WHY?  Every VFD is being run from a transformer!  What's that thing up on a pole beside your house, or on a pad behind your industrial shop?  Yes, it is a

Re: [Emc-users] Servo Motor Tuning.

2021-06-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/02/2021 01:20 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I really don't know if this is the right forum for this question but in working with the mill over the last few months every once in a while the DC Brushed Servo Y axis makes this horrible noise like a stepper motor at the harmonic instability. Try

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

2021-06-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/01/2021 06:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any particular one that jumps out as the best solution? And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable screen? You may want to use "touchy"

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with tapping

2021-05-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/24/2021 04:26 PM, Ed wrote: Following is a snippet of a program using G33.1 The first hole is tapped correctly then all the rest get switched X and Z. It will move to X -.8 then back then to x-.25 and repeat for the rest whether there is a G33.1 on the line or not. Using Version

Re: [Emc-users] homing off glass scale

2021-05-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/22/2021 07:12 PM, dave engvall wrote: Has anyone tried homing off the reference channel on a glass scale? There is information on the web indicating that at least some of the chinese glass scales mask and compare the 4 lines each side of the reference mark in addition to the reference.

Re: [Emc-users] Can't find the PP. Where is lspci or equiv ?

2021-05-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/04/2021 09:16 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] On 05/04/2021 07:26 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I thought I'd try that on my LinuxCNC system. With or without sudo it does print a list of all the devices but it doesn't tell me the actual port address

Re: [Emc-users] Can't find the PP. Where is lspci or equiv ?

2021-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/04/2021 07:26 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I thought I'd try that on my LinuxCNC system. With or without sudo it does print a list of all the devices but it doesn't tell me the actual port address of the standard port on the machine (0x378) which I know because when I dual boot it into

Re: [Emc-users] Can't find the PP. Where is lspci or equiv ?

2021-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/04/2021 02:01 PM, Ed wrote: Updating an old retrofit that uses step servos, Gecko 320's. I tried using lspci to find the ports (onboard and an addon ) and no such animal as lspci. Is there another good way to find the ports? On some installs, for some reason, lspci is not listed in

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2021 07:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Thanks Jon, I hadn't thought of it in that exact manner, and it makes perfect sense. So I'll likely give it a shot in the next few days. Does there seem to be a golden ratio that works well consistently? Some people seem to have a feel for the

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2021 02:34 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Friction will of coarse vary, but assume the amplitude of the jitter is constantly reset to zero by a passing edge from the encoder, but it times out in 2 millisecs. Leaving the pwmgen outputing a very low duration pulse in one direction or the

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2021 12:03 PM, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2021-05-03 kl. 17:42, skrev Jon Elson: Assuming machine is lubricated there shear force in oil/grease depend on speed so it might actually be rather close to viscous friction and hence rather close to linear. Then an oil/grease pump

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2021 02:57 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: More specifically, which of the F's is suitable for forcing a closer to null settling point when there is considerable friction in the system? That's the problem! Friction is nonlinear, and it hurts during acceleration but HELPS during deceleration.

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2021 01:00 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: The below is exactly true. The problem is that PID is widely used and PID is only "reactive" it can only deal with what has already happened and the time lag is the source of oscillations.In the past, PID was the only control option because we

Re: [Emc-users] reducing rigid tapping overshoot

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/28/2021 01:53 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: I'm running LinuxCNC 2.7 on a PC. Which of these would I select for that? https://github.com/LongDirtyAnimAlf/fpcupdeluxe/releases/tag/1.8.2r I'm not sure you need any of these. Most Linux installs have fpc in their software library, it can be

Re: [Emc-users] reducing rigid tapping overshoot

2021-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/24/2021 05:00 AM, andrew beck wrote: if I try rigid tap at 1000 rpm at 1mm pitch i get a over travel of about 5mm. I can reduce the deceleration ramp in the altivar 71 schiender drive to 0.5 secs and then the over travel is about one revolution of the spindle. but if i leave the

Re: [Emc-users] wiring up mesa ency encoder

2021-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2021 11:23 PM, andrew beck wrote: update on encoder splitting to altivar vfd and mesa card hey guys just a update and a few more questions so I managed to get the encoder mounted on my spindle and working fine. the vfd works in closed loop control now and I get quite nice power

Re: [Emc-users] Worn Ball Screw?

2021-04-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/12/2021 09:48 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Those here who have had to deal with a worn out ball screw. I'd dig into the works and examine everything. It does NOT sound like simple wear. The rotating nut likely runs in a pair of either angular-contact bearings or tapered roller bearings.

Re: [Emc-users] Small PC for use with 7i90 / 7i96?

2021-03-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/29/2021 07:48 PM, Billy Huddleston wrote: For really small, like a 7" cube, you can get mini ITX motherboards and a matching cabinet and power supply from the usual outfits like NewEgg, etc. The 7" cube box allows full-height PCI cards. If you can handle something a little bigger, you

Re: [Emc-users] Programs to write G code

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 02:34 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: I am very interested in your programs. In the past I have used PyCAM to generate gcode, and even Excel and text editors to write gcode, attempted to use BlenderCAM without success, still have to test FreeCAD Path Module. I have put the Pascal

Re: [Emc-users] Programs to write G code

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 02:46 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I'll hold off for now. Too many things on my plate. Plus I'm pretty sure I downloaded the bore IJ code from someone's web site where they had a bunch of utilities available. I really want to acknowledge who did the original work. Well, these

Re: [Emc-users] Programs to write G code

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 05:09 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/28/2021 02:46 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I'll hold off for now. Too many things on my plate. Plus I'm pretty sure I downloaded the bore IJ code from someone's web site where they had a bunch of utilities available. I really want to acknowledge who

[Emc-users] Programs to write G code

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 11:52 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: The code fragment I posted was originally in C. I translated that to Pascal. I was just wondering if you were the author of the bore with IJ or R C code. I didn't see any links to the programs on your web site. Right, I never posted the Pascal

Re: [Emc-users] pushbuttons for "canned" G code?

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/27/2021 10:00 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Jon, -Original Message- On 03/24/2021 10:18 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: However this page I think shows how you create the G code command as a MDI command. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Custom_MDI_Buttons Thanks very

Re: [Emc-users] pushbuttons for "canned" G code?

2021-03-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/24/2021 10:18 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: However this page I think shows how you create the G code command as a MDI command. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Custom_MDI_Buttons Thanks very much for the link! I got it working with very little trouble. Push a button, it

Re: [Emc-users] Heidenhain LS403 scale

2021-03-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/26/2021 10:44 PM, Karl Schmidt wrote: On 3/26/21 3:34 PM, Feral Engineer wrote: Does anyone have a working solution for using Heidenhain LS403 scales with LinuxCNC? They're 2 phase sinusoidal feedback. Trying to connect to a mesa 7i95. Phil T. The Feral Engineer They used to build

[Emc-users] pushbuttons for "canned" G code?

2021-03-24 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, I have a gadget I put together for a project at work, beagle bone and Machinekit. It is a one-axis linear positioner. I only need to move to the correct positions for 4 samples. So, the G-code is something like : G1 F25 X1 Where the number after the X will be 0,1,2,or 3. I already

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill

2021-03-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/19/2021 05:21 PM, Alan Condit wrote: I finally got my PCB mill all wired up and I started with the stepconf configuration that works with my X2 mill. Neither the X axis or the Z axis work. They just shudder. However, the Y axis works fine it will do 180 ipm. So I took the stepper off of

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/18/2021 08:43 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] Sent: March-18-21 6:22 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index On 03/18/2021 05:18 PM, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Need

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/18/2021 05:18 PM, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Need to orient spindle. Using a quadrature encoder spindle need to be "homed" by rotating up to one revolution to find index pulse but there is no homing for spindle. Know what index pulse is in encoder but what does the index enable signal

Re: [Emc-users] Nice camera/probe integration

2021-03-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/12/2021 11:14 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: This would be an awesome setup for Linuxcnc. https://www.datron.com/revolutionize-workpiece-setup/ I got a "USB microscope" and built it into a tool holder and hooked it up with camview to show in a window of LinuxCNC. It worked, but I really

Re: [Emc-users] Gear cutting setup on low-cost HF mill??

2021-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2021 12:39 PM, Peter Hodgson wrote: Could you not make a broaching cutter mounted in the quill and cnc broach one tooth at a time with the stock mounted on a rotary table? That's a slow version of the custom gear cutter and right angle drive. Bridgeport made an adapter to turn their

Re: [Emc-users] Gear cutting setup on low-cost HF mill??

2021-03-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/11/2021 12:28 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: The really hard part that I don't know how to do is a ring gear. I can't figure out how to cut internal teeth. I might just buy these if they can't be machined. Internal teeth need to be cut with a gear shaper, or specialized gear hobbing

Re: [Emc-users] Coordinated Spindle - mill

2021-03-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/10/2021 02:08 PM, Karl Schmidt wrote: I finally have all the hardware working - I built gear pickups + Z .. Thanks to Jon Elson's example .. works well - thanks for sharing. https://lrak.net/secret/pictures/wells_index/wells_index/2020-02-05_10-37-10_jpg.jpeg.html

Re: [Emc-users] nother not so silly Q

2021-03-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/07/2021 11:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I guess I'm one of the guys that grew up reading the printed word, and to this day I grasp a howto 10 times better by reading it on paper. So, how is the best way to get a paper copy of a man page, since man doesn't seem to have the

Re: [Emc-users] Debian gui lockups on fresh install

2021-03-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/05/2021 12:20 AM, Feral Engineer wrote: So new discovery. If I plug in an external monitor, both displays work perfectly. What screen resolution is the laptop screen? Some laptops have really ODD screen dimensions and not all drivers can handle those. I've run into this before, a long

Re: [Emc-users] Following Error Joint 2

2021-03-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/03/2021 09:17 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Recall this is open loop motion with no feedback from the servo other than if the servo faults which it doesn't. So weight shouldn't matter. Should it? OK,this is EXTREMELY bizarre! In open loop, how could LinuxCNC know anything about the load on

Re: [Emc-users] Issues with custom pendant.

2021-03-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/02/2021 08:11 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I've followed the directions in this link. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Custom_MDI_Buttons LinuxCNC fails on start up if I include this line in the postgui.hal file. net remote-rapid-to-home halui.mdi-command-00 <=

Re: [Emc-users] Tandem home switches on single axis

2021-03-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/01/2021 11:02 AM, Feral Engineer wrote: Hi Jon No encoders. Besides the 7i76e and raspberry pi, the machine is using the original steppers and electronics. OK, without encoders, then you are limited by the servo period. So, figure some way to tie the sensor in with the mechanical

Re: [Emc-users] Harmonic drive, rubber flex ring

2021-03-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/01/2021 04:11 AM, andrew beck wrote: This may interest people wanting to make 4th axis stuff https://youtu.be/-065J34xC5o The output disc seems to be rotating in a jerky manner. This could be a video compression artifact, or related to precision of the parts. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] Tandem home switches on single axis

2021-03-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/28/2021 10:21 PM, Feral Engineer wrote: Hello Hive mind, Question for the group. I have an emco pc turn 55. I've successfully gotten everything working 100% on LCNC with the exception of one thing, the x and z axis utilize a mechanical limit switch to latch home position, but then each

Re: [Emc-users] Accuracy of the resolver.

2021-02-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/22/2021 12:32 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 17:37, dave engvall wrote: Another view point. https://www.heidenhain.us/resources-and-news/resolvers-vs-encoders/ How odd that the encoder manufacturer thinks that encoders are better :-) In the presence of electrical noise,

Re: [Emc-users] Accuracy of the resolver.

2021-02-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/22/2021 09:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 18:17, nkp216 wrote: How to calculate the accuracy of the resolver? In terms of linearity or in terms of resolution? Resolution is hard to quantify, as they are analogue devices, so the accuracy is dependent on the measurement

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with E Stop Logic

2021-02-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/16/2021 03:58 PM, Matthew Herd wrote: So I've got egg on my face on this one. It seems that changing to dout.07 in my config solved the issue. No idea why it didn't work for me before. I'm certain I tried that in my config, but I can't say. Also, I tried the sim config again and it

Re: [Emc-users] dynamic glade ui's

2021-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2021 04:36 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: I'm working on some ideas for a user interface for a multichannel syringe pump. It will support up to twelve syringes, and link any combination of them, such that a "leader" channel has a dispense rate, and "follower" channels have dispense ratio as

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with E Stop Logic

2021-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2021 10:56 AM, Jon Elson wrote: The very old boards only gave a few hundred ns for the resistor to pull the E-stop/ line up. If there was too much capacitive load on the cable, it would not rise enough and then the board would go back to E-stop. I put a stretch circuit

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with E Stop Logic

2021-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2021 10:22 AM, Matthew Herd wrote: Great, I may not be able to get back to the machine to test until the weekend, but will update you as soon as I am able to test. But given the results I’ve seen with the sample config, I doubt it’ll work. Well, then something is broken. If it

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with E Stop Logic

2021-02-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/15/2021 05:21 AM, Matthew Herd wrote: Tying SSR8’s together should work fine for me, since I’ve wired the enables to the second board’s SSR8. Changing to dout.07 is easy enough. I don’t have the boards here to visually verify, but I did set switch 10 before installing. I also wired up

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with E Stop Logic

2021-02-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/14/2021 09:03 PM, Matthew Herd wrote: Thank you Jon. So it’s impossible to reassign dout.15 to E-stop enable? I’m using the first board for the E-stop loop, but attempting to use dout.15 on the second board to enable my servo drives. No, sorry, SSR8 on the second board is a slave to

Re: [Emc-users] Problem with E Stop Logic

2021-02-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/14/2021 08:02 PM, Matthew Herd wrote: I’ve been working on a new configuration using a fresh install from the live image for 2.8.0 and have had some trouble with my E Stop logic. I am using two Pico USC boards and a config based on the default USC with encoder sample. When I attempt

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2021 09:41 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Well, it takes FF1 = 20.5 to get a cruise at about null, And I did have FF2 = .5, but .35 cancels the stop spike. So my question is why are these so far out of the normal range where for a stepgen FF1=1.0 and FF2 = .001 is about right. Something else

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2021 04:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: So, looking at pid.error with a 100mv/div scale, 1 div would be .1 degree? If you look closely at the Halscope screen, you will see that it does NOT show a "v". So, you would get a 100m/div scale, 100 milli-somethings. If the INPUT_SCALE or SCALE

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 10:37 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I went to take the bs-1 off its table, and found I can't take it very far as I have negleted to build a 2nd set of inline connectors so I can disconnect the encoder and really take it away. And I've yet to come up with a scheme to detect that it is

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 07:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But is the error also in degrees? The halsope is measuriing volts and I have not found anyplace where it states the error is in the same sized unit the rest of that particular servo is using. And, if its degrres I should have tripped a coup le dozen

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 01:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: You may be forgetting that this is calibrated in a degree Ah, yes, 0.25 degrees doesn't look so huge. Jon ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 12:42 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: So back to the original subject. It's not just motion that can cause a driver fault. A broken encoder wire, DC or AC power instability, or even random electrical noise. In all those cases I've found I still have to execute a HOME ALL command to

Re: [Emc-users] PCB fabrication

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 11:13 AM, Alan Condit wrote: I am thinking about having a 2” x 4” PCB fabricated. I have used OSHPark in the past but I seem to recall someone saying that there were cheaper options available. I searched back through the emc-users threads but couldn't find anything. Can anyone tell

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 05:11, John Dammeyer wrote: Should just the enables to the other servo drives be removed or should power be cut to all drives. I don't know what the industry standard is, but I can think of arguments for leaving the drives

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/10/2021 01:12 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: FERROR = 0.50 MIN_FERROR = 0.25 And as you can see, running errors allowed are fairly large as I am not done tuning. Geez, these don't protect you at all from something going wrong! Here's the settings on my X axis : FERROR = 0.003 MIN_FERROR =

Re: [Emc-users] Dealing with Servo Faults

2021-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
On Wednesday 10 February 2021 00:08:41 John Dammeyer wrote: Quick question. There's a multi-axis operation in progress. For whatever reason one of the servos throws out a fault and of course stops. Should just the enables to the other servo drives be removed or should power be cut to all

Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please

2021-02-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/08/2021 12:11 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: If you've room for it Jon I expect it would be a pretty good deal at that price. But check the ceiling height it needs too, that looks to be in excess of the usual 96" tall. I'd probably be 5 or 6"" or so thru the ceiling in my garage. With 3

Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please

2021-02-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/08/2021 08:20 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Gene, If you aren't too far away to drive to Cleveland, these guys might be a good place to ckeck out. HGR has all manor of junk to look at. Here is just one of many options.

Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please

2021-02-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/07/2021 06:38 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: 1. Any tool griping mechanism the has to squeeze a collet by drawing it lengthwise in a tapered seat has to compromise your tlo offsets in the tool table I have fitted myself out with a set of R8 tool holders, and rarely use a collet anymore. About

Re: [Emc-users] To: Jon Elson

2021-02-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2021 11:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: thats about got me to call the guy with needles full of knee grease for a couple shots Totally off the EMC topic, but I had been having trouble with a sore shoulder, and thought it was maybe arthritis creeping in. But, it came and went suddenly, so

Re: [Emc-users] To: Jon Elson

2021-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2021 09:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetngs Jon; I am in the process of installing a newer machine to run that GO704. But I cannot find a copy of boot.comp to build for the buster kernel. Where can I pull another copy of it from? Hmm, I have a copy of what looks to be the right

Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please

2021-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2021 04:59 PM, Mark Johnsen wrote: Hi Gene, I always had an eye on the Rongfu RF-45. Here's one like it for a tad more than the one you have your eye on and might not include shipping:

Re: [Emc-users] machine opinion please

2021-02-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/06/2021 04:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; My patience with the GO704 is about used up. I've the sheckles now to replace it with something that might be better, and this one looks as if it might scratch the itch. I'd like to get a bridgeport style but simply do not have the room

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed changes with threading.

2021-02-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/05/2021 01:35 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 05 February 2021 13:53:44 Jon Elson wrote: On 02/05/2021 10:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: You have my curiosity bump itching Jon, When I get my stuff back together on the GO704, and get my new 'scope unpacked, I'll take a look at the step

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed changes with threading.

2021-02-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/05/2021 01:11 PM, johnd wrote: What's the resolution of your spindle encoder and base period servo period? There is no base thread on this servo system. The servo thread runs at 1 KHz. The spindle encoder uses the bull gear in the mill's head, so it has 324 counts/rev. Jon

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