[NTG-context] Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? If it is not: - Is there a way to automatically merge the content of the couple of pages, and to remove the "wrong" pages, or should it be done manually ? Thanks for your help. List : Command/ attachment Command/ background Command/ bar Command/ beginblock Command/ button Command/ characterkerning Command/ comment Command/ completecombinedlist Command/ completelistoffloats Command/ completelistofsorts Command/ completelistofsynonyms Command/ completeregister Command/ copylabeltext Command/ ctxfunction Command/ ctxfunctiondefinition Command/ currentlabel Command/ delimitedtext Command/ description Command/ enumeration Command/ fence Command/ fraction Command/ framed Command/ framedtext Command/ getbuffer Command/ hbox Command/ help Command/ high Command/ highlight Command/ label Command/ labellanguage Command/ labeltext Command/ labeltexts Command/ language Command/ leftlabeltext Command/ linenote Command/ low Command/ lowhigh Command/ lowmidhigh Command/ margindata Command/ mathcommand Command/ mathdoubleextensible Command/ mathextensible Command/ mathframed Command/ mathmatrix Command/ mathornament Command/ mathoverextensible Command/ mathovertextextensible Command/ mathradical Command/ mathtriplet Command/ mathunderextensible Command/ mathundertextextensible Command/ mathunstacked Command/ nextparagraphs Command/ note Command/ ornament Command/ paragraphs Command/ placecombinedlist Command/ placefloat Command/ placelistoffloats Command/ placelistofsorts Command/ placelistofsynonyms Command/ placement Command/ placepairedbox Command/ placeregister Command/ presetlabeltext Command/ referenceformat Command/ register Command/ rightlabeltext Command/ script Command/ section Command/ seeregister Command/ setupcombinedlist Command/ setupitemgroup Command/ setuplabeltext Command/ setuppairedbox Command/ setupregister Command/ shift Command/ sorting Command/ startattachment Command/ startbackground Command/ startbuffer Command/ startcolumnset Command/ startcomment Command/ startdelimitedtext Command/ startdescription Command/ starteffect Command/ startenumeration Command/ startfittingpage Command/ startfloattext Command/ startformula Command/ startframedtext Command/ starthelp Command/ startindentedtext Command/ startitemgroup Command/ startlabeltext Command/ startlinenote Command/ startlines Command/ startmakeup Command/ startmathalignment Command/ startmathcases Command/ startmathmatrix Command/ startmixedcolumns Command/ startnarrower Command/ startnote Command/ startpagecolumns Command/ startparagraphs Command/ startparallel Command/ startplacefloat Command/ startplacepairedbox Command/ startsection Command/ startsectionblock Command/ startstartstop Command/ startstop Command/ startstyle Command/ starttabulate Command/ starttextbackground Command/ starttyping Command/ startviewerlayer Command/ startxtable Command/ stoplinenote Command/ style Command/ synonym Command/ textbackground Command/ textnote Command/ tooltip Command/ type Command/ typebuffer Command/ unit ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to track down source of [entry not flushed] displaying in indexes?
After many hours of trial-and-error, I was able to recreate the problem in a
minimum working example:
file main.tex only contains:
\starttext
\index{birds}
\index{insects}
\input secondary
\placeindex
\stoptext
file secondary.tex only contains:
\index{turtles}
For reasons I can't understand, the index produces the same [entry not flushed]
error. It seems here happening when contents are input.
My code is so simple, I can't understand what I've typed wrong.
--Joel
On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 12:51:56 PM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
Okay, I maybe made some progress. I traced the code back and back through the
various documents and found I have some items inside:
\startnointerference\startnointerference
My intent is to have items that are "there" but invisible to viewers, taking up
no space on screen, but treated as being present, so the index will still point
to that particular page.
This solution seems to be what's causing the [entry not flushed] error in the
index.
Is there another solution instead of startnointerferencethat will hide text or
any content but still allow page references to link to that blank spot?
--Joel
On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 07:53:21 AM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
I have some custom registers that I use to index some information. When
compiled, it just prints [entry not flushed] instead of printing some of the
page numbers.
I have tens of thousands of lines of code, so have no idea how to break the
problem down to a minimal example. What does [entry not flushed] mean? What
kind of feature in my document do I need to search for that might explain why
this is appearing?
Here is the minimal code used in my index, as you see it isn't showing the
error, so something else in the document is causing it:
\setvalue{W3}{this is text for W3}
\defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=3,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\define[1]\learnedis{%
\txt{} \getvalue{#1}
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{#1}
}
\define[1]\learned{%
\textreference[textref#1]{\expanded{\currentstructuretitle}}
\reference[ref#1]{}%
%
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
}
\starttext
\learned{W3}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placeregister[learnedlong]
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: How to track down source of [entry not flushed] displaying in indexes?
Okay, I maybe made some progress. I traced the code back and back through the
various documents and found I have some items inside:
\startnointerference\startnointerference
My intent is to have items that are "there" but invisible to viewers, taking up
no space on screen, but treated as being present, so the index will still point
to that particular page.
This solution seems to be what's causing the [entry not flushed] error in the
index.
Is there another solution instead of startnointerferencethat will hide text or
any content but still allow page references to link to that blank spot?
--Joel
On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 07:53:21 AM MDT, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
I have some custom registers that I use to index some information. When
compiled, it just prints [entry not flushed] instead of printing some of the
page numbers.
I have tens of thousands of lines of code, so have no idea how to break the
problem down to a minimal example. What does [entry not flushed] mean? What
kind of feature in my document do I need to search for that might explain why
this is appearing?
Here is the minimal code used in my index, as you see it isn't showing the
error, so something else in the document is causing it:
\setvalue{W3}{this is text for W3}
\defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=3,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\define[1]\learnedis{%
\txt{} \getvalue{#1}
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{#1}
}
\define[1]\learned{%
\textreference[textref#1]{\expanded{\currentstructuretitle}}
\reference[ref#1]{}%
%
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
}
\starttext
\learned{W3}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placeregister[learnedlong]
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] How to track down source of [entry not flushed] displaying in indexes?
I have some custom registers that I use to index some information. When
compiled, it just prints [entry not flushed] instead of printing some of the
page numbers.
I have tens of thousands of lines of code, so have no idea how to break the
problem down to a minimal example. What does [entry not flushed] mean? What
kind of feature in my document do I need to search for that might explain why
this is appearing?
Here is the minimal code used in my index, as you see it isn't showing the
error, so something else in the document is causing it:
\setvalue{W3}{this is text for W3}
\defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=3,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\define[1]\learnedis{%
\txt{} \getvalue{#1}
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{#1}
}
\define[1]\learned{%
\textreference[textref#1]{\expanded{\currentstructuretitle}}
\reference[ref#1]{}%
%
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
}
\starttext
\learned{W3}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placeregister[learnedlong]
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] How to add data from another PDF in index?
Fantastic! Exactly what I needed. My publisher was gong to ask for the
information of this index soon, so its great that already works!
--Joel
On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:45:48 AM MST, Alan Braslau
wrote:
Hans needs to confirm, "In the next update..."
Test files (MWEs):
% index-1.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
test \index{entry WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{another WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{onemore WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{whatever WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{common} \page empty \page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
% index-2.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\defineregister[xedni]
\useregister[workbook][index-1][index][WB ]
\starttext
test \index{onemore TB.1} \page
test \index{another TB.1} \page
test \index{entry TB.1} \page
test \index{common} \page
test \xedni{onemore TB.2} \page
test \xedni{another TB.2} \page
test \xedni{entry TB.2} \page
test \xedni{common} \page
\placeregister[index,xedni,workbook]
\stoptext
This seems to work well - I have applied it to a long and complicated
multi-volume book project to great success!
We need to thank Hans for the quick implementation.
Alan
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 05:43:01 + (UTC)
Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I am making a textbook and workbook set.
> I have this custom index using this code, in both the textbook and
> workbook: %
> \defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \define[1]\learnedis{%
> \txt{} \getvalue{#1}
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{#1}
> }
> \define[1]\learned{%
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
> }
>
> \starttext
>
> \learnedis{blah blah}
>
> \input knuth
>
> \learnedis{some more}
>
>
> \startchapter[title=Standards]
> \placelearnedshort
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> My question is, can I have references to the Workbook page numbers in
> the textbook? And visa-versa?
>
> For instance, the Textbook index currently looks like this:
> -
> Standards
> blah blah 1
> some more 2
> --
> With the data in the Workbook it might look like this:
> Standards
> blah blah 1, WB: 1, 3-8
>
> some more 2, WB: 8-9
> yet more WB: 10, 12
>
> --
> Is this possible to merge index information like this?
> --Joel
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Fort Collins, CO 80521 USA
mobile: (970) 237-0957
Conserve energy! ;-)
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Re: [NTG-context] How to add data from another PDF in index?
Hans needs to confirm, "In the next update..."
Test files (MWEs):
% index-1.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\starttext
test \index{entryWB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{another WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{onemore WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{whatever WB.1} \page empty \page
test \index{common}\page empty \page
\placeregister[index]
\stoptext
% index-2.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\defineregister[xedni]
\useregister[workbook][index-1][index][WB ]
\starttext
test \index{onemore TB.1} \page
test \index{another TB.1} \page
test \index{entry TB.1} \page
test \index{common} \page
test \xedni{onemore TB.2} \page
test \xedni{another TB.2} \page
test \xedni{entry TB.2} \page
test \xedni{common} \page
\placeregister[index,xedni,workbook]
\stoptext
This seems to work well - I have applied it to a long and complicated
multi-volume book project to great success!
We need to thank Hans for the quick implementation.
Alan
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 05:43:01 + (UTC)
Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I am making a textbook and workbook set.
> I have this custom index using this code, in both the textbook and
> workbook: %
> \defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \define[1]\learnedis{%
> \txt{} \getvalue{#1}
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{#1}
> }
> \define[1]\learned{%
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
> }
>
> \starttext
>
> \learnedis{blah blah}
>
> \input knuth
>
> \learnedis{some more}
>
>
> \startchapter[title=Standards]
> \placelearnedshort
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> My question is, can I have references to the Workbook page numbers in
> the textbook? And visa-versa?
>
> For instance, the Textbook index currently looks like this:
> -
> Standards
> blah blah 1
> some more 2
> --
> With the data in the Workbook it might look like this:
> Standards
> blah blah 1, WB: 1, 3-8
>
> some more 2, WB: 8-9
> yet more WB: 10, 12
>
> --
> Is this possible to merge index information like this?
> --Joel
--
Alan Braslau
816 West Mountain Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80521 USA
mobile: (970) 237-0957
Conserve energy! ;-)
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Re: [NTG-context] How to add data from another PDF in index?
We are currently working on fixing cross-references as well as shared
register information between products in a ConTeXt project structure.
Much is possible, but not all is fully worked out.
My current use is a multi-volume book, sharing Tables of Contents
between the two volumes. As a teaser,
\placelist [part,chapter,section,subsection]
[criterium=product,reference=VolumeII]
will include the TOC of VolumeII in product VolumeI.
Once we have this figured-out, I will have to create a wiki page.
Alan
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 05:43:01 + (UTC)
Joel via ntg-context wrote:
> I am making a textbook and workbook set.
> I have this custom index using this code, in both the textbook and
> workbook: %
> \defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
> \setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
> pagenumber=yes, indicator=no] %
> \define[1]\learnedis{%
> \txt{} \getvalue{#1}
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{#1}
> }
> \define[1]\learned{%
> \learnedshort{#1}
> \learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
> }
>
> \starttext
>
> \learnedis{blah blah}
>
> \input knuth
>
> \learnedis{some more}
>
>
> \startchapter[title=Standards]
> \placelearnedshort
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> My question is, can I have references to the Workbook page numbers in
> the textbook? And visa-versa?
>
> For instance, the Textbook index currently looks like this:
> -
> Standards
> blah blah 1
> some more 2
> --
> With the data in the Workbook it might look like this:
> Standards
> blah blah 1, WB: 1, 3-8
>
> some more 2, WB: 8-9
> yet more WB: 10, 12
>
> --
> Is this possible to merge index information like this?
> --Joel
--
Alan Braslau
816 West Mountain Avenue
Fort Collins, CO 80521 USA
mobile: (970) 237-0957
Conserve energy! ;-)
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[NTG-context] How to add data from another PDF in index?
I am making a textbook and workbook set.
I have this custom index using this code, in both the textbook and workbook:
%
\defineregister[learnedshort][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedshort][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\defineregister[learnedlong][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learnedlong][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=2,
pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
%
\define[1]\learnedis{%
\txt{} \getvalue{#1}
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{#1}
}
\define[1]\learned{%
\learnedshort{#1}
\learnedlong{\getvalue{#1}}
}
\starttext
\learnedis{blah blah}
\input knuth
\learnedis{some more}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placelearnedshort
\stopchapter
\stoptext
My question is, can I have references to the Workbook page numbers in the
textbook? And visa-versa?
For instance, the Textbook index currently looks like this:
-
Standards
blah blah 1
some more 2
--
With the data in the Workbook it might look like this:
Standards
blah blah 1, WB: 1, 3-8
some more 2, WB: 8-9
yet more WB: 10, 12
--
Is this possible to merge index information like this?
--Joel
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[NTG-context] setupregister/placeregister
Hello, The criterium key in setupregister (so placeregister, placeindex, ...) takes the following values: criterium local text current previous all section all: places all entries of the document section: (part, chapter, section, ...) places entries associated with that structure element. Can someone explain local, text, current, previous for their scope and perhaps subtle differences are not entirely obvious to me. Thank you Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Why won't custom indexes work when the value comes from \getvalue?
I setup a custom index like this (see minimum example code below):
The problem is, when I try to create an index entry, using \setcoreidea, but
place \getvalue inside, it won't render, ex.: \setcoreidea{\getvalue{secret1}}
As you can see in this sample code, \setcoreidea will work fine, but when
\getvalue{} is placed inside, it can't find the value.
Any suggestions?
--Joel
\defineregister[coreidea][compress=yes]\setupregister[coreidea][style=sansbold,
textstyle=slanted, n=2, pagenumber=yes, indicator=no]
\define[1]\setcoreidea{%
\coreidea{#1}%
}
\setvalue{secret1}{this won't work}
\starttext
%
\setcoreidea{this works}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\input knuth
\input knuth
\setcoreidea{\getvalue{secret1}}
\startchapter[title=Core Ideas]
\placecoreidea
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] setupregister with realpage?
On 9/24/2022 3:30 AM, Benjamin Buchmuller wrote: Thank you, Hans! This works, I get all the correct page references! I didn't know about cont-new.mkxl to temporarily store "hacks". I assume the file is updated with each release? Is there a way to store local hacks, e.g., in texmf-local? I could not find "cont-loc" (maybe it's not a file). Just use that file, as it will be updated. Local copies can only interfere later on (unless you check them each update). You can have an cont-loc.mkxl file in you local tree for various personal preferences and hacks. For dev there is also cont-exp.mkxl but that's not supposed to be known; it's what we use for experimental things that i test for a while. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupregister with realpage?
Thank you, Hans! This works, I get all the correct page references!
I didn't know about cont-new.mkxl to temporarily store "hacks". I assume the
file is updated with each release? Is there a way to store local hacks, e.g.,
in texmf-local? I could not find "cont-loc" (maybe it's not a file).
For future reference, this is how I am using the hack:
\def\MyRegisterPageCommand#1{\currentregisterrealpage}
\setupregister[MyRegisterA][pagecommand=\MyRegisterPageCommand]
\setupregister[MyRegisterB][pagecommand=\MyRegisterPageCommand]
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 17:47, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> On 9/23/2022 11:08 PM, Benjamin Buchmuller via ntg-context wrote:
>> Dear list,
>> \setuplist has the convenient option [pagenumber=realpage]
>> \setupregister has not (yet).
>> How can I get the realpagenumber instead of the userpagenumber for the
>> register indices?
>> I tried
>> \def\MyPageCommand#1{\realpagenumber}
>> \setupregister[MyIndex][pagecommand=\MyPageCommand]
>> but this prints only the current (although real) page number.
> you can try with this in cont-new.mkxl
>
> \pushoverloadmode \unprotect
>
> \let\currentregisterrealpage\!!zerocount % todo: more general accessor
>
> \permanent\protected\def\withregisterpagecommand#1#2#3#4%
> {\ifcase#3\relax
> {\tt [entry\space not\space flushed]}%
> \else
> \def\currentregisterpageindex{#2}%
> \def\currentregisterrealpage{#3}%
> \iflocation
> \strc_references_goto_internal{\applyprocessor{#1}{\registerparameter\c!pagecommand{#4}}}[internal(#2)]%
> \else
> \applyprocessor{#1}{\registerparameter\c!pagecommand{#4}}%
> \fi
> \fi}
>
> \protect \popoverloadmode
>
> which sets \currentregisterrealpage
>
> -
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Re: [NTG-context] setupregister with realpage?
On 9/23/2022 11:08 PM, Benjamin Buchmuller via ntg-context wrote:
Dear list,
\setuplist has the convenient option [pagenumber=realpage]
\setupregister has not (yet).
How can I get the realpagenumber instead of the userpagenumber for the register
indices?
I tried
\def\MyPageCommand#1{\realpagenumber}
\setupregister[MyIndex][pagecommand=\MyPageCommand]
but this prints only the current (although real) page number.
you can try with this in cont-new.mkxl
\pushoverloadmode \unprotect
\let\currentregisterrealpage\!!zerocount % todo: more general accessor
\permanent\protected\def\withregisterpagecommand#1#2#3#4%
{\ifcase#3\relax
{\tt [entry\space not\space flushed]}%
\else
\def\currentregisterpageindex{#2}%
\def\currentregisterrealpage{#3}%
\iflocation
\strc_references_goto_internal{\applyprocessor{#1}{\registerparameter\c!pagecommand{#4}}}[internal(#2)]%
\else
\applyprocessor{#1}{\registerparameter\c!pagecommand{#4}}%
\fi
\fi}
\protect \popoverloadmode
which sets \currentregisterrealpage
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[NTG-context] setupregister with realpage?
Dear list,
\setuplist has the convenient option [pagenumber=realpage]
\setupregister has not (yet).
How can I get the realpagenumber instead of the userpagenumber for the register
indices?
I tried
\def\MyPageCommand#1{\realpagenumber}
\setupregister[MyIndex][pagecommand=\MyPageCommand]
but this prints only the current (although real) page number.
Thank you!
Benjamin
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Re: [NTG-context] sorting for particular sub entries to register
Thanks Robert,
Initially I thought it would probably be Lua which could come up with a
simple solution, though Hans had made it clear that 'messing with' the
key was the way to go, and, as always, he was proven correct. I simply
had to find out the best way to do the messing! But when time allows I
will take a closer look at the Lua possibilities.
Julian
On 1/2/22 18:49, Robert via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Julian,
Another solution could be to use Lua.
I have a multilingual document in which some elements to be printed
bold (Language 1), and collected in an index (trk) arranged according
their (verbal) stems. Elements from Language 2 are to be printed in
italics in the text and collected in a separate index.
In the present example the morphemes from Language 2 are separated by
::, the verbal stem ends in -.
In \\textbf the input is reproduced as is. Then interesting things
happen in the index (trk).
The first element (until the first ::) is taken as an main entry in
the index (hence !). Then the complete input is retained as the
secondary entry. Note that in the index - separates the morphemes.
I use LuaLatex, but I am quite sure this is also possible in Context.
It is quite complex, but it works.
Robert
\newcommand{\TWI}[1]{\directlua{twi_help(\luastring{#1})}}
\begin{luacode}
function twi_help ( s )
s = unicode.utf8.gsub (s,
'^([^:]+)::([^:]+)::([^:]+)::([^:]+)::([^:]+)$' ,
'\\textbf{%1::%2::%3%::%4::%5}\\sindex%[trk%]{%#%1!%1%-%2%-%3%-%4-%5}’ )
s = unicode.utf8.gsub … other action
\end{luacode}
\begin{document}
text text text text \TWI{dī-::dū::kin::dah} text text text text text
\end{document}
Op 1 feb. 2022, om 01:41 heeft jbf via ntg-context
het volgende geschreven:
Yes, Adam, that works. Though it can be a laborious solution, since
it means creating keys for everything in a sub entry list (and I have
many instances, 40 or more in some cases). However, I did not ask for
a 'simple' solution, just a solution! Thank you.
Julian
On 1/2/22 11:09, Adam Reviczky wrote:
Hi Julian,
How about using the keys in every instance?
\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
\starttext
P\index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
B\index[Plenary+beriti]{Plenary Council+{\it beriti} (experts)}
A\index[Plenary+aeriti]{Plenary Council+aeriti (experts)}
S\index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
B\index[animals+bpecial]{animals+bpecial}
A\index[animals+apecial]{animals+‘apecial’}
U\index[animals+upecial]{animals+‘upecial’}
T\index[animals+tpecial]{animals+tpecial}
\placeindex
\stoptext
See result in:
https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ
Adam
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:38 PM jbf via ntg-context
wrote:
Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of two
situations in sub entries to a book index (register). Sub
entries that have formatting or sub entries that are surrounded
by quote marks (straight or curly, it makes no difference) do
not appear in the correct alphabetical order.
Two attempts on my part:
text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti}
(experts)} text after.
text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after. Or
alternatively, \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The
processor is not for the 'periti' case above but I use it for
book titles.
\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly interferes
with correct alphabetic positioning in the sub entry list.
Placing +periti in the key does not overcome that problem.
In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single quote mark
(‘) that causes the problem. The item comes last in the sub
entry list. And if i include a key [special], then it comes
first in the sub entry list. Either way, it is out of the
desired sorting order.
I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of various
ones, but it is always possible that I have not fully understood
those suggestions. The reality is that at the moment the issue
remains unresolved for me. Any further wisdom out there to offer me?
Julian
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Re: [NTG-context] sorting for particular sub entries to register
Hi Julian,
Another solution could be to use Lua.
I have a multilingual document in which some elements to be printed bold
(Language 1), and collected in an index (trk) arranged according their (verbal)
stems. Elements from Language 2 are to be printed in italics in the text and
collected in a separate index.
In the present example the morphemes from Language 2 are separated by ::, the
verbal stem ends in -.
In \\textbf the input is reproduced as is. Then interesting things happen in
the index (trk).
The first element (until the first ::) is taken as an main entry in the index
(hence !). Then the complete input is retained as the secondary entry. Note
that in the index - separates the morphemes.
I use LuaLatex, but I am quite sure this is also possible in Context.
It is quite complex, but it works.
Robert
\newcommand{\TWI}[1]{\directlua{twi_help(\luastring{#1})}}
\begin{luacode}
function twi_help ( s )
s = unicode.utf8.gsub (s, '^([^:]+)::([^:]+)::([^:]+)::([^:]+)::([^:]+)$' ,
'\\textbf{%1::%2::%3%::%4::%5}\\sindex%[trk%]{%#%1!%1%-%2%-%3%-%4-%5}’ )
s = unicode.utf8.gsub … other action
\end{luacode}
\begin{document}
text text text text \TWI{dī-::dū::kin::dah} text text text text text
\end{document}
> Op 1 feb. 2022, om 01:41 heeft jbf via ntg-context het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Yes, Adam, that works. Though it can be a laborious solution, since it means
> creating keys for everything in a sub entry list (and I have many instances,
> 40 or more in some cases). However, I did not ask for a 'simple' solution,
> just a solution! Thank you.
>
> Julian
>
> On 1/2/22 11:09, Adam Reviczky wrote:
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>> How about using the keys in every instance?
>>
>> \setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
>> \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
>>
>> \starttext
>> P\index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
>> B\index[Plenary+beriti]{Plenary Council+{\it beriti} (experts)}
>> A\index[Plenary+aeriti]{Plenary Council+aeriti (experts)}
>>
>> S\index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
>> B\index[animals+bpecial]{animals+bpecial}
>> A\index[animals+apecial]{animals+‘apecial’}
>> U\index[animals+upecial]{animals+‘upecial’}
>> T\index[animals+tpecial]{animals+tpecial}
>>
>> \placeindex
>> \stoptext
>>
>> See result in: https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ
>> <https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:38 PM jbf via ntg-context > <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>> Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of two situations in
>> sub entries to a book index (register). Sub entries that have formatting or
>> sub entries that are surrounded by quote marks (straight or curly, it makes
>> no difference) do not appear in the correct alphabetical order.
>>
>> Two attempts on my part:
>>
>> text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
>> text after.
>>
>> text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after. Or alternatively,
>> \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
>>
>> The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The processor is not for
>> the 'periti' case above but I use it for book titles.
>>
>> \setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
>> \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
>> In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly interferes with
>> correct alphabetic positioning in the sub entry list. Placing +periti in the
>> key does not overcome that problem.
>>
>> In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single quote mark (‘) that
>> causes the problem. The item comes last in the sub entry list. And if i
>> include a key [special], then it comes first in the sub entry list. Either
>> way, it is out of the desired sorting order.
>>
>> I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of various ones, but it is
>> always possible that I have not fully understood those suggestions. The
>> reality is that at the moment the issue remains unresolved for me. Any
>> further wisdom out there to offer me?
>>
>> Julian
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] sorting for particular sub entries to register
Yes, Adam, that works. Though it can be a laborious solution, since it
means creating keys for everything in a sub entry list (and I have many
instances, 40 or more in some cases). However, I did not ask for a
'simple' solution, just a solution! Thank you.
Julian
On 1/2/22 11:09, Adam Reviczky wrote:
Hi Julian,
How about using the keys in every instance?
\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
\starttext
P\index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
B\index[Plenary+beriti]{Plenary Council+{\it beriti} (experts)}
A\index[Plenary+aeriti]{Plenary Council+aeriti (experts)}
S\index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
B\index[animals+bpecial]{animals+bpecial}
A\index[animals+apecial]{animals+‘apecial’}
U\index[animals+upecial]{animals+‘upecial’}
T\index[animals+tpecial]{animals+tpecial}
\placeindex
\stoptext
See result in: https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ
Adam
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:38 PM jbf via ntg-context
wrote:
Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of two
situations in sub entries to a book index (register). Sub entries
that have formatting or sub entries that are surrounded by quote
marks (straight or curly, it makes no difference) do not appear in
the correct alphabetical order.
Two attempts on my part:
text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti}
(experts)} text after.
text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after. Or
alternatively, \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The processor
is not for the 'periti' case above but I use it for book titles.
\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly interferes
with correct alphabetic positioning in the sub entry list. Placing
+periti in the key does not overcome that problem.
In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single quote mark
(‘) that causes the problem. The item comes last in the sub entry
list. And if i include a key [special], then it comes first in the
sub entry list. Either way, it is out of the desired sorting order.
I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of various ones,
but it is always possible that I have not fully understood those
suggestions. The reality is that at the moment the issue remains
unresolved for me. Any further wisdom out there to offer me?
Julian
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Re: [NTG-context] sorting for particular sub entries to register
Hi Julian,
How about using the keys in every instance?
\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
\starttext
P\index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
B\index[Plenary+beriti]{Plenary Council+{\it beriti} (experts)}
A\index[Plenary+aeriti]{Plenary Council+aeriti (experts)}
S\index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
B\index[animals+bpecial]{animals+bpecial}
A\index[animals+apecial]{animals+‘apecial’}
U\index[animals+upecial]{animals+‘upecial’}
T\index[animals+tpecial]{animals+tpecial}
\placeindex
\stoptext
See result in: https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ
Adam
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:38 PM jbf via ntg-context
wrote:
> Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of two situations in
> sub entries to a book index (register). Sub entries that have formatting or
> sub entries that are surrounded by quote marks (straight or curly, it makes
> no difference) do not appear in the correct alphabetical order.
>
> Two attempts on my part:
>
> text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
> text after.
>
> text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after. Or alternatively,
> \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
>
> The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The processor is not
> for the 'periti' case above but I use it for book titles.
>
> \setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
>
> \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
>
> In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly interferes with
> correct alphabetic positioning in the sub entry list. Placing +periti in
> the key does not overcome that problem.
>
> In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single quote mark (‘) that
> causes the problem. The item comes last in the sub entry list. And if i
> include a key [special], then it comes first in the sub entry list. Either
> way, it is out of the desired sorting order.
>
> I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of various ones, but it
> is always possible that I have not fully understood those suggestions. The
> reality is that at the moment the issue remains unresolved for me. Any
> further wisdom out there to offer me?
>
> Julian
>
>
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[NTG-context] sorting for particular sub entries to register
Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of two situations
in sub entries to a book index (register). Sub entries that have
formatting or sub entries that are surrounded by quote marks (straight
or curly, it makes no difference) do not appear in the correct
alphabetical order.
Two attempts on my part:
text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti}
(experts)} text after.
text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after. Or
alternatively, \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The processor is not
for the 'periti' case above but I use it for book titles.
\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly interferes with
correct alphabetic positioning in the sub entry list. Placing +periti in
the key does not overcome that problem.
In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single quote mark (‘) that
causes the problem. The item comes last in the sub entry list. And if i
include a key [special], then it comes first in the sub entry list.
Either way, it is out of the desired sorting order.
I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of various ones, but
it is always possible that I have not fully understood those
suggestions. The reality is that at the moment the issue remains
unresolved for me. Any further wisdom out there to offer me?
Julian
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Re: [NTG-context] registers, how to ignore quote marks
Hi Julian,
Have you tried \index[Innovative]{‘Innovative’}?
See wiki entry: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Registers
- To sort a word (such as "ConTeXt" under "C"), use: \index
<https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/index>[CONTEXT]{\ConTeXt}
You would have to change each index call though.
Adam
On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:42 AM jbf via ntg-context
wrote:
> I have an issue that has been raised at least twice in this list but as
> far as I can see it has not received an answer. Perhaps someone can help
> with the following?
>
> I have an index entry that has unicode quote marks either side:
> ‘Innovative Beings’. I need to retain those quote marks. If I put
> \index{‘Innovative’} then ‘Innovative’ is sorted under ‘ instead of under
> the letter I. How do I get my indexing to ignore the quote marks, at the
> very least the initial one?
>
> My index setup at the moment is as follows:
>
> \defineregister[index][compress=yes]
>
> \setupregister[index][n=1]
>
> \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
>
> The only hint I could gain from the wiki was that it might depend on using
> a method key in \setupregister, but I could not see which to use. Tried a
> few and got weird results.
>
> Julian
>
>
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[NTG-context] registers, how to ignore quote marks
I have an issue that has been raised at least twice in this list but as
far as I can see it has not received an answer. Perhaps someone can help
with the following?
I have an index entry that has unicode quote marks either side:
‘Innovative Beings’. I need to retain those quote marks. If I put
\index{‘Innovative’} then ‘Innovative’ is sorted under ‘ instead of
under the letter I. How do I get my indexing to ignore the quote marks,
at the very least the initial one?
My index setup at the moment is as follows:
\defineregister[index][compress=yes]
\setupregister[index][n=1]
\defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
The only hint I could gain from the wiki was that it might depend on
using a method key in \setupregister, but I could not see which to use.
Tried a few and got weird results.
Julian
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create an index that refers to multiple other books?
I tried adding 'pageprefixsegments' to setupregister, but cannot find any
value that adds anything, ex. pageprefixsegments={WB1}
pageprefixsegments=part:number
How does it work? I'd be fine if the index listed pages like "WB1 3" meaning
"Workbook 1, page 3", it isn't ideal but is better than not having the index
showing anything.
--Joel
On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 07:41:15 AM MST, Henning Hraban Ramm via
ntg-context wrote:
Am 18.01.22 um 14:27 schrieb Joel via ntg-context:
> One possible solution I see, since the textbooks and workbooks share the
> same macros, formatting, fonts, etc. is to just render them as a single
> file, resetting the page number at the start of each new book, then
> later use pdfjam to split the files, but I'm not sure how the index
> could tell readers which of the five "page 5's" (for example) the index
> is referring to. --Joel
In this case, you could use \part per workbook and use
pageprefixsegments in \setupregister to add the part number in front of
the page number.
Otherwise, I guess it would be possible to read the .tuc files of the
other products to create index entries. (Some Lua programming; shouldn’t
bee too hard, but still way over my head.)
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create an index that refers to multiple other books?
On 1/18/2022 2:16 PM, Joel via ntg-context wrote:
I am writing a secondary textbook to be used in public schools. In my
state, the textbooks must adhere to standards, such as the Common Core
State Standards (CCSS). It is typical for a textbook to contain an index
for teachers to check where in the textbook which standards are used.
I've used the following code to create such an index, if I simply place
`\learned{}` somewhere containing the standard's ID, it creates a custom
index entry, and `\placelearned` displays that index.
\defineregister[learned][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learned][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=1,
pagenumber=yes]
\starttext
\learned{CCSS+W.7.3}
\input knuth
\learned{CCSS+W.7.3}
\input knuth
\learned{CCSS+W.7.1}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placelearned
\stopchapter
\stoptext
This prints an index like this:
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1 1
W.7.3 1
My problem is my textbook also includes four separate workbooks. I need
the index to show my publisher that I've covered all 300+ standards, so
I need the index at the back of the textbook to also contain details of
which pages in each workbook the standards are found. How can I combine
the index so it refers to all books? Something like this:
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1 T 1, Wk.1 3-8, 12, Wk.2 8-9, 60-61
W.7.3 T 1, Wk.1 3-8, 12, Wk.2 8-9, 60-61, Wk.3 1-2, 54, 70, 90,
Wk.4 99, 102, 104
...or possibly like this...
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1
Textbook: 1
Workbook 1: 3-8, 12
Workbook 2: 8-9, 60-61
W.7.3
Textbook: 1
Workbook 1: 3-8, 12
Workbook 2: 8-9, 60-61
Workbook 3: 1-2, 54, 70, 90
Workbook 4: 99, 102, 104
Is there any way to print an index that covers pages across multiple books?
in principle one can load an index but you want some prefixing ... i
suppose that we can make some more native feature (some weekend
challenge i guess)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create an index that refers to multiple other books?
Am 18.01.22 um 14:27 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: One possible solution I see, since the textbooks and workbooks share the same macros, formatting, fonts, etc. is to just render them as a single file, resetting the page number at the start of each new book, then later use pdfjam to split the files, but I'm not sure how the index could tell readers which of the five "page 5's" (for example) the index is referring to. --Joel In this case, you could use \part per workbook and use pageprefixsegments in \setupregister to add the part number in front of the page number. Otherwise, I guess it would be possible to read the .tuc files of the other products to create index entries. (Some Lua programming; shouldn’t bee too hard, but still way over my head.) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to create an index that refers to multiple other books?
One possible solution I see, since the textbooks and workbooks share the same
macros, formatting, fonts, etc. is to just render them as a single file,
resetting the page number at the start of each new book, then later use pdfjam
to split the files, but I'm not sure how the index could tell readers which of
the five "page 5's" (for example) the index is referring to. --Joel
On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 06:19:01 AM MST, Joel via ntg-context
wrote:
I am writing a secondary textbook to be used in public schools. In my state,
the textbooks must adhere to standards, such as the Common Core State Standards
(CCSS). It is typical for a textbook to contain an index for teachers to check
where in the textbook which standards are used. I've used the following code to
create such an index, if I simply place `\learned{}` somewhere containing the
standard's ID, it creates a custom index entry, and `\placelearned` displays
that index.
\defineregister[learned][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learned][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=1, pagenumber=yes]
\starttext
\learned{CCSS+W.7.3}
\input knuth
\learned{CCSS+W.7.3}
\input knuth
\learned{CCSS+W.7.1}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placelearned
\stopchapter
\stoptext
This prints an index like this:
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1 1
W.7.3 1
My problem is my textbook also includes four separate workbooks. I need the
index to show my publisher that I've covered all 300+ standards, so I need the
index at the back of the textbook to also contain details of which pages in
each workbook the standards are found. How can I combine the index so it refers
to all books? Something like this:
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1 T 1, Wk.1 3-8, 12, Wk.2 8-9, 60-61
W.7.3 T 1, Wk.1 3-8, 12, Wk.2 8-9, 60-61, Wk.3 1-2, 54, 70, 90, Wk.4 99,
102, 104
...or possibly like this...
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1
Textbook: 1
Workbook 1: 3-8, 12
Workbook 2: 8-9, 60-61
W.7.3
Textbook: 1
Workbook 1: 3-8, 12
Workbook 2: 8-9, 60-61
Workbook 3: 1-2, 54, 70, 90
Workbook 4: 99, 102, 104
Is there any way to print an index that covers pages across multiple books?
--Joel
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[NTG-context] How to create an index that refers to multiple other books?
I am writing a secondary textbook to be used in public schools. In my state,
the textbooks must adhere to standards, such as the Common Core State Standards
(CCSS). It is typical for a textbook to contain an index for teachers to check
where in the textbook which standards are used. I've used the following code to
create such an index, if I simply place `\learned{}` somewhere containing the
standard's ID, it creates a custom index entry, and `\placelearned` displays
that index.
\defineregister[learned][compress=yes]
\setupregister[learned][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=1, pagenumber=yes]
\starttext
\learned{CCSS+W.7.3}
\input knuth
\learned{CCSS+W.7.3}
\input knuth
\learned{CCSS+W.7.1}
\startchapter[title=Standards]
\placelearned
\stopchapter
\stoptext
This prints an index like this:
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1 1
W.7.3 1
My problem is my textbook also includes four separate workbooks. I need the
index to show my publisher that I've covered all 300+ standards, so I need the
index at the back of the textbook to also contain details of which pages in
each workbook the standards are found. How can I combine the index so it refers
to all books? Something like this:
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1 T 1, Wk.1 3-8, 12, Wk.2 8-9, 60-61
W.7.3 T 1, Wk.1 3-8, 12, Wk.2 8-9, 60-61, Wk.3 1-2, 54, 70, 90, Wk.4 99,
102, 104
...or possibly like this...
Standards
c
CSS
W.7.1
Textbook: 1
Workbook 1: 3-8, 12
Workbook 2: 8-9, 60-61
W.7.3
Textbook: 1
Workbook 1: 3-8, 12
Workbook 2: 8-9, 60-61
Workbook 3: 1-2, 54, 70, 90
Workbook 4: 99, 102, 104
Is there any way to print an index that covers pages across multiple books?
--Joel
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Re: [NTG-context] How to manually adjust the sort order of items appearing in a custom index?
Am 17.01.22 um 16:53 schrieb Joel via ntg-context:
I created a custom index that displays a list of "Important Dates"
appearing in my book. It lists the year, a short description of what
happened, and should show the page number.
I'm running into two errors though:
First, if the date is the same year, it is sorting alphabetically,
example
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Yet another event happened}
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Another event happened}
...will print the wrong one first in the index..
1912 - Another even happened
1912 - Yet another event happened.
Is there a way to manually tell it to display one first? I don't want to
add visible month and day details, that would be even more confusing to
the index as I have to print it in American order.
Second, when it compiles it is not printing the page number, instead
prints "[Entry not flushed]".
-- Joel
Here is my minimum working example:
\defineregister[listdates][compress=yes]
\setupregister[listdates][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=1,
pagenumber=yes]
\define[2]\dateis{%
\listdates{#1~\emdash ~#2}%
}%
\starttext
\dateis{1900s+1911}{Some event happened}
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Yet another event happened}
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Another event happened}
\startchapter[title=Important Dates]
\placelistdates
\stopchapter
\stoptext
Change your definition of \dateis (or use an additional macro) to use
the sort key of \index:
\index[1900s+191201]{January}
\index[1900s+191202]{February}
Hraban
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[NTG-context] How to manually adjust the sort order of items appearing in a custom index?
I created a custom index that displays a list of "Important Dates" appearing in
my book. It lists the year, a short description of what happened, and should
show the page number.
I'm running into two errors though:
First, if the date is the same year, it is sorting alphabetically, example
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Yet another event happened}
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Another event happened}
...will print the wrong one first in the index..
1912 - Another even happened
1912 - Yet another event happened.
Is there a way to manually tell it to display one first? I don't want to add
visible month and day details, that would be even more confusing to the index
as I have to print it in American order.
Second, when it compiles it is not printing the page number, instead prints
"[Entry not flushed]".
-- Joel
Here is my minimum working example:
\defineregister[listdates][compress=yes]
\setupregister[listdates][style=sansbold, textstyle=slanted, n=1,
pagenumber=yes]
\define[2]\dateis{%
\listdates{#1~\emdash ~#2}%
}%
\starttext
\dateis{1900s+1911}{Some event happened}
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Yet another event happened}
\dateis{1900s+1912}{Another event happened}
\startchapter[title=Important Dates]
\placelistdates
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] new upload
On 12/1/2021 9:49 AM, denis.ma...@unibe.ch wrote:
Thank you, Hans!
I don't understand 2, 3, and 4, but I can wikify 1. Just two question: What
exactly are the limitations? And what is meant by horizontal registers?
% this is a variant of an example on the mailing list
\mainlanguage[es]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu]
\defineregister
[Russian]
[n=1,
command=\Words,
pagenumber=no,
language=ru,
textalternative=horizontal,
distance=0pt]
\setupregister [Russian] [2] [textstyle=bold,left={, }]
\setupregister [Russian] [3] [textstyle=italic,left={, }]
% word category meaning
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={исчисление}, entries:2={n.
neutr.}, entries:3={cálculo}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={исчисление}, entries:2={n.
neutr.}, entries:3={cálculo}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={вероятность}, entries:2={n.
fem.},entries:3={probabilidad}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={обозначать}, entries:2={v.},
entries:3={denotar}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={область}, entries:2={n.
fem}, entries:3={región, área}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={событие}, entries:2={n.
neutr.}, entries:3={evento}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={определение}, entries:2={n.
neutr.}, entries:3={definición}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={знание}, entries:2={n.
neutr,}, entries:3={conocimiento}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={бесконечно}, entries:2={adv.},
entries:3={infinitamente}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={сборник}, entries:2={n.
masc.}, entries:3={colección, compilación, compendio}]
\setregisterentry [Russian] [entries:1={неравенство}, entries:2={n.
neutr.}, entries:3={desigualdad}]
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Ruso-español]
\placeRussian
\stoptitle
\stoptext
Regarding the implementation: I've just tried it, and I wondered whether the
stacking of bars should not happen the other way round. As in
\underbar{\underdot{asdf}}
I would have expected the bar to be below the dot. But maybe that's wrong
expectations...
that would become rather messy and hard to analyze (this is already a
runtime consuming feature) and never be consistent, think of
\underbar{%
\underdot{}
x
\underdot{}%
}
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Re: [NTG-context] Concerning dictionaries. glossaries and related in ConTeXt
Hi,
kind of like this but maybe we need to go setups as we do with lists and
sections adn such
Hans
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-\pushoverloadmode \unprotect
\newconditional\c_strc_registers_traditional
\settrue\c_strc_registers_traditional
\permanent\protected\def\startregisterentry#1% todo: level
{\typo_injectors_check_register
\begingroup
\dostarttagged\t!registerentry\empty
\global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\zerocount
\ifconditional\c_strc_registers_traditional
\hangindent\d_strc_registers_hangindent
\hangafter \c_strc_registers_hangafter
\else
\namedregisterparameter\currentnestedregister\c!left\relax
\fi
\typo_injectors_mark_register}
\permanent\protected\def\stopregisterentry
{\ifconditional\c_strc_registers_traditional
\endgraf
\else
\namedregisterparameter\currentnestedregister\c!right\relax
\fi
\global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\zerocount
\dostoptagged
\endgroup}
\permanent\protected\def\usenestedregisterstyleandcolor#1#2% will change
{\useregisterstyleandcolor#1#2%
% how about style
\ifconditional\c_strc_registers_text_interaction
\ifempty\currentcolorparameter \else
\resetinteractionparameter\c!color
\resetinteractionparameter\c!contrastcolor
\fi
\fi}
\permanent\protected\def\startregisterentries#1% depth
{\ifconditional\c_strc_registers_traditional
\endgraf
\fi
\begingroup
\c_strc_register_level\ifnum#1>\c_strc_registers_maxlevel\c_strc_registers_maxlevel\else#1\fi\relax
\dostarttagged\t!registerentries\empty
\pushmacro\currentregister % bah
\edef\currentregister{\currentregister:\number\c_strc_register_level}%
\let\currentnestedregister\currentregister
\usenestedregisterstyleandcolor\c!textstyle\c!textcolor
\ifnum\c_strc_register_level>\plusone
\advance\leftskip\d_strc_registers_distance\relax
\fi
\d_strc_registers_hangindent\registerparameter\c!distance\relax
\c_strc_registers_hangafter \plusone
\ifconditional\c_strc_registers_traditional
\blank[\v!samepage]%
\fi
\popmacro\currentregister}
\def\c!textalternative{textalternative}
\appendtoks
\doifelse{\registerparameter\c!textalternative}\v!horizontal
\setfalse\settrue\c_strc_registers_traditional
\to \everysetupregister
\protect \popoverloadmode
\starttext
\mainlanguage[es]
\enableexperiments[fonts.compact]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu] % computer-modern-unicode]
\setuphead[chapter]
[alternative=middle]
\defineregister[Russian]
\setupregister[Russian]
[expansion=yes,
balance=no,
n=2,
command=\Words,
pagenumber=no,
language=ru]
\def\Ruso[#1]%
{\begingroup
\getdummyparameters
[word=,
category=,
meaning=,
#1]%
\setregisterentry
[Russian]
[keys={\dummyparameter{word}},
entries:1={\dummyparameter{word}},
entries:2={\dummyparameter{category}},
entries:3={\dummyparameter{meaning}}]%
\endgroup}
\setupregister
[Russian]
[textalternative=horizontal,
distance=0pt]
\setupregister
[Russian][2]
[distance=0pt,
textstyle=bold,
left={, }]
\setupregister
[Russian][3]
[distance=0pt,
textstyle=italic,
left={, }]
\starttext
\Ruso
[word=исчисление,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=cálculo]
\Ruso
[word=вероятность,
category=n. fem.,
meaning=probabilidad]
\Ruso
[word=обозначать,
category=v.,
meaning=denotar]
\Ruso
[word=область,
category=n. fem,
meaning={región, área}]
\Ruso
[word=событие,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=evento]
\Ruso
[word=определение,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=definición]
\Ruso
[word=знание,
category=n. neutr,,
meaning=conocimiento]
\Ruso
[word=бесконечно,
category=adv.,
meaning=infinitamente]
\Ruso
[word=сборник,
category=n. masc.,
meaning={colección, compilación, compendio}]
\Ruso
[word=неравенство,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=desigualdad]
\starttitle[title=Ruso-español]
\placeRussian
\stoptitle
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Concerning dictionaries. glossaries and related in ConTeXt
On 11/26/2021 12:22 PM, Jairo A. del Rio via ntg-context wrote:
Hi, list. I want to know how I should handle alphabetically sorted data
in ConTeXt. So far, I'm abusing registers in order to get simple
glossaries, but I prefer to manage data with tools such as JabRef rather
than manually typing entries inside a document. I attach an example of
what I achieved:
\unprotect
\mainlanguage[\s!es]
\enableexperiments[fonts.compact]
\setupbodyfont[computer-modern-unicode]
\setuphead[chapter]
[\c!alternative=\v!middle]
\defineregister[Russian]
\setupregister[Russian]
[\c!expansion=\v!yes,
\c!balance=\v!no,
\c!n=2,
\c!command=\Words,
\c!pagenumber=\v!no,
\c!language=\s!ru]
\def\Ruso[#1]%
{\begingroup
\getdummyparameters[word=,category=,meaning=,#1]%
\Russian[\dummyparameter{word}]%
{\bold{\dummyparameter{word}}
\italic{\dummyparameter{category}}
\dummyparameter{meaning}}%
\endgroup}
\protect
\Ruso
[word=исчисление,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=cálculo]
\Ruso
[word=вероятность,
category=n. fem.,
meaning=probabilidad]
\Ruso
[word=обозначать,
category=v.,
meaning=denotar]
\Ruso
[word=область,
category=n. fem,
meaning={región, área}]
\Ruso
[word=событие,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=evento]
\Ruso
[word=определение,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=definición]
\Ruso
[word=знание,
category=n. neutr,,
meaning=conocimiento]
\Ruso
[word=бесконечно,
category=adv.,
meaning=infinitamente]
\Ruso
[word=сборник,
category=n. masc.,
meaning={colección, compilación, compendio}]
\Ruso
[word=неравенство,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=desigualdad]
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Ruso-español]
\placeRussian
\stoptitle
\stoptitle
\stoptext
Reading the manuals, I find that the publication mechanism for
bibliography kinda fits my needs (using ConTeXt to sort and type data
generated via external software) but, unlike registers, it doesn't seem
to include options for alphabetical headers. Is it fine to keep using
registers in this case? Is there a better mechanism for this task in
ConTeXt? Thank you in advance.
you can also use:
\setregisterentry
[Russian]
[keys={\dummyparameter{word}},
entries={\bold{\dummyparameter{word}}
\italic{\dummyparameter{category}}
\dummyparameter{meaning}}]%
no need for c! v! s! unless you make a multi-userinterface style
anyway, makes me wonder if we should have a horizontal register variant
\setupregister
[Russian][2]
[textstyle=bold]
\setupregister
[Russian][3]
[textstyle=italic]
so that we keep stuff on one line
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[NTG-context] Concerning dictionaries. glossaries and related in ConTeXt
Hi, list. I want to know how I should handle alphabetically sorted data in
ConTeXt. So far, I'm abusing registers in order to get simple glossaries,
but I prefer to manage data with tools such as JabRef rather than manually
typing entries inside a document. I attach an example of what I achieved:
\unprotect
\mainlanguage[\s!es]
\enableexperiments[fonts.compact]
\setupbodyfont[computer-modern-unicode]
\setuphead[chapter]
[\c!alternative=\v!middle]
\defineregister[Russian]
\setupregister[Russian]
[\c!expansion=\v!yes,
\c!balance=\v!no,
\c!n=2,
\c!command=\Words,
\c!pagenumber=\v!no,
\c!language=\s!ru]
\def\Ruso[#1]%
{\begingroup
\getdummyparameters[word=,category=,meaning=,#1]%
\Russian[\dummyparameter{word}]%
{\bold{\dummyparameter{word}}
\italic{\dummyparameter{category}}
\dummyparameter{meaning}}%
\endgroup}
\protect
\Ruso
[word=исчисление,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=cálculo]
\Ruso
[word=вероятность,
category=n. fem.,
meaning=probabilidad]
\Ruso
[word=обозначать,
category=v.,
meaning=denotar]
\Ruso
[word=область,
category=n. fem,
meaning={región, área}]
\Ruso
[word=событие,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=evento]
\Ruso
[word=определение,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=definición]
\Ruso
[word=знание,
category=n. neutr,,
meaning=conocimiento]
\Ruso
[word=бесконечно,
category=adv.,
meaning=infinitamente]
\Ruso
[word=сборник,
category=n. masc.,
meaning={colección, compilación, compendio}]
\Ruso
[word=неравенство,
category=n. neutr.,
meaning=desigualdad]
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Ruso-español]
\placeRussian
\stoptitle
\stoptitle
\stoptext
Reading the manuals, I find that the publication mechanism for bibliography
kinda fits my needs (using ConTeXt to sort and type data generated via
external software) but, unlike registers, it doesn't seem to include
options for alphabetical headers. Is it fine to keep using registers in
this case? Is there a better mechanism for this task in ConTeXt? Thank you
in advance.
Best regards,
Jairo
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[NTG-context] Generating HTML
I would want to generate HTML, but in the example below, "html-test.tex", the
index does not show in the file "html-test-export/html-test-div.html", and the
source file \index{…}, gets in the HTML a black triangle. The index and links
work fine in "html-test.pdf", though.
— html-test.tex —
\definefontfamily [mainface][math][stix]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
\setupinteraction[state=start, click=yes, focus=standard, color=darkblue]
\setupbackend[export=yes] % Exporting HTML/XML
\defineregister [index]
\setupregister [index] [indicator=no]
\startchapter[title={Introduction}]
Foobar\index{foobar} out of working order.
\startbodymatter
Foo\index{foo} or bar\index{bar}.
\startbackmatter
\completeindex
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Indexing redux
On 8/26/2021 03:26, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Rik,
On 26 Aug 2021, at 03:14, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote:
List,
I am trying to create an index with both "see" and "see also" cross-reference entries.[1] At this
point, ConTeXt provides basic support for "see" entries via the \seeREGISTER command (it does not properly
support references to sub-entries) and it provides no support at all for "see also" entries.
Can somebody suggest a way to generate these entries? Perhaps a way of
inserting entries into the index before it is formatted, in the manner of
\writetolist or \writebetweenlist? (MkII has \writetoregister, but that did not
carry forward and I do not know if it would have helped here.)
Since strc-reg.mkiv starts with a number of ’todo’ comments, I think your best
bet is to create an
actual functional example along with an explanation of what you want the
typeset result to look
like in the cases where it is not doing what you want.
Generally, explicit examples / test files are the best way to get replies to
questions
(either by Hans or anyone else).
The following produces what I am looking for, and a bit more. Page 3 of
the output shows what I would like to see, page 4 is the generated
index. I don't really need the "see under" and "see also under"
variants, but they would be nice to have. I am indifferent to having
stops before "see also"s. I would like to be able to turn checking on or
off, so that generic directives (in the example, see also specific
breeds) will not generate an error, while the Ford Prefect example will
generate an error.
\defineprocessor[also][color=blue]
\defineprocessor[under][color=green]
\defineprocessor[alsounder][color=orange]
\define\seealsoindex\seeindex
\define\seealsounderindex\seeindex
\define\seeunderindex\seeindex
\setupinteraction [state=start]
\setupregister [index][balance=no,check=no]
%% seeindex entries may start on the same line as their head entry
\seeindex {dog breeds+Wiener dog}{dog breeds+Dachshund}
%% The next example should not work,
%% since there is no main entry /Adams, Douglas/
\seeindex {Prefect, Ford}{Adams, Douglas}
%% When referring to a subentry, the target must be a subentry,
%% but should display as if a main entry. The next example
%% should point to the /Adams+Douglas/ subentry, but it
%% should be formatted as if it were /Adams, Douglas/
\seeindex {Dent, Arthur}{Adams+Douglas}
%% The following two work as expected
\seeindex {Matilda effect}{obliteration}
\seeindex {Marut, Ret}{Traven, B.}
%% seealso should be placed after as a subentry after real page
references
%% seealso should have an appropriate label (default English /see also/)
\seealsoindex {pseudepigraphy}{also->obliteration}
\seealsoindex {dog breeds}{also->breeding programs}
\seealsoindex {dog breeds}{also->specific breeds}
%% seealsounder is like seealso except that it refers to a main entry
\seealsounderindex{Coton de Tulear}{alsounder->dog breeds}
%% seeunder also is like seealso except that it refers to a main entry
\seeunderindex {Weimaraner}{under->dog breeds}
\starttext
Stuff
\index{obliteration}
\index{Adams+Douglas}\index{Adams+John}
\index{Beagle}
\index{dog breeds+Beagle}
\index{dog breeds+Coton de Tulear}
\index{dog breeds+Dachshund}
\index{dog breeds+Weimaraner}
\page
More stuff
\index{Adams+John Quincy}
\index{misquotation}
\index{pseudepigraphy}
\index{Traven, B.}
\index{Beagle}
\index{Coton de Tulear}
\index{breeding programs}
\page
\definedescription[Index][headstyle=bold,alternative=top,inbetween=]
\startIndex{a}
Adams\par
\quad \reference[AdamsDouglas]{Adams, Douglas}Douglas\quad 1\par
\quad John\quad 1\par
\quad John Quincy\quad 2\par
\stopIndex
\startIndex{b}
Beagle\quad 1, 2\par
\reference[breedingprograms]{breeding programs}breeding
programs\quad 2
\stopIndex
\startIndex{c}
Coton de Tulear\quad 2.\par
\quad {\em See also under} \in[dogbreeds]
\stopIndex
\startIndex{d}
\reference[DentArthur]{Dent, Arthur}Dent, Arthur {\em see}
\in[AdamsDouglas]\par
\reference[dogbreeds]{dog breeds}dog breeds\par
\quad \reference[dbBeagle]{dog breeds, Beagle}Beagle\quad 1\par
\quad \reference[dbCoton]{dog breeds, Coton}Coton de
Tulear\quad 1\par
\quad \reference[dbDachshund]{dog breeds,
Dachshund}Dachshund\quad 1\par
\quad \reference[dbWeimaraner]{dog breeds,
Weimarane
Re: [NTG-context] register for biblical citations
You are correct on both counts; it is not quite random (just not what I
was looking for ) and yes, the abbreviated book title needs to be in
the mix as well, just in case it also ends up throwing things out. But,
as you can see subsequently, each contribution is making things clearer
(for me, not so accustomed to working with Lua code) and I have every
confidence we will work this one out. For almost anyone using ConTeXt
for preparing a book that includes such an index, and I believe it is
normal for biblical citations to be listed according to biblical book
order, at least, this is the author's request in my case, the ultimate
solution will benefit such people in the future.
Julian
On 16/4/21 8:57 pm, r.erm...@hccnet.nl wrote:
It seems that the items are actually not randomly listed.
It appears to me that the list is sorted on the chapter number, and then the
verse number. The abbreviated book title is not involved in this sorting order,
which it should be.
Robert
Op 16 apr. 2021, om 12:22 heeft jbf het volgende
geschreven:
There was no mention of the indicator anywhere in what I copied from your
example. I did try indicator=no just now in case it should be made explicit:
(\setupregister[bibcit][language=biblical,before=,indicator=no]
but that makes no difference either. Same result. Seemingly random index.
Julian
On 16/4/21 8:06 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 4/16/2021 11:47 AM, jbf wrote:
Hans, thanks for your ingenious solution but there is still a way to go I
suspect!
I implemented (copy-paste) precisely the solution offered and I get an index
but with some strange results ! Notice that in my previous own solution (but
only as far as 26 books!) I at least got an index in the order of the biblical
books, but using the luacode you offered, I get a seemingly random result (see
below).
I extended your example by a few books. so:
\startluacode
sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
method = interfaces.variables.before,
replacements = {
{ "Gen", string.char(1) },
{ "Ex", string.char(2) },
{ "Lev", string.char(3) },
{ "Deut", string.char(4) },
{ "Lam", string.char(5) },
{ "Dan", string.char(6) },
{ "Joel", string.char(7) },
{ "Ps", string.char(8) },
{ "Prov", string.char(9) },
{ "Sir", string.char(10) },
{ "Mt", string.char(11) },
{ "Mk", string.char(12) },
},
}
\stopluacode
But the result I get (just showing you a dozen or so, and you will see that Gen
doesn't even turn up in this list ... it does, but much later!):
Mk 2:19-20 with parallels (PES) 146
Mt 3:8-10 (PES) 135
Prov 3:11-12 (PES) 139, 172
Sir 4:17-18 (PES) 139
Mt 5:5 (PES) 146
Mt 5:6 (MAC) 123
Mt 5:16 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (PES) 145
Mt 7:13-14 (PES) 146
Sir 10:9 (PES) 142
Mt 11:12 (PRO) 160
Mt 12:34 (MAC) 124, 137
Mt 12:36 (PES) 134
Mk 12:41-44 (MAC) 122
Sir 17:27 (PES) 142
I have no idea why this is happening. I changed nothing of what you gave me and
removed anything I had previously. If you need an example of how \bibcit is
being used in the text, just in case it helps (but I doubt it), here is one:
The widow’s mite pleased God because of her good intention, rather than the
heap of money that the pharisees, urged on by self-love, threw into the
treasury box (cf. \bibcit{Mk 12:41-44 (MAC)}Mk 12:41-44).
So, not sure where to go from here. Could I perhaps return to my earlier
question, which indicated that by using the keyword approach [a] [b] and so on,
as far as [z] I was at least getting a passable result, but how could I
continue past [z]? Could I have used [1], [2] etc which would allows me to get
as far as 66 (if I were to need every biblical book)?
don't set the indicator
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Re: [NTG-context] register for biblical citations
It seems that the items are actually not randomly listed.
It appears to me that the list is sorted on the chapter number, and then the
verse number. The abbreviated book title is not involved in this sorting order,
which it should be.
Robert
> Op 16 apr. 2021, om 12:22 heeft jbf het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> There was no mention of the indicator anywhere in what I copied from your
> example. I did try indicator=no just now in case it should be made explicit:
>
> (\setupregister[bibcit][language=biblical,before=,indicator=no]
>
> but that makes no difference either. Same result. Seemingly random index.
>
> Julian
>
> On 16/4/21 8:06 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 4/16/2021 11:47 AM, jbf wrote:
>>> Hans, thanks for your ingenious solution but there is still a way to go I
>>> suspect!
>>>
>>> I implemented (copy-paste) precisely the solution offered and I get an
>>> index but with some strange results ! Notice that in my previous own
>>> solution (but only as far as 26 books!) I at least got an index in the
>>> order of the biblical books, but using the luacode you offered, I get a
>>> seemingly random result (see below).
>>>
>>> I extended your example by a few books. so:
>>>
>>> \startluacode
>>> sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
>>> method = interfaces.variables.before,
>>> replacements = {
>>> { "Gen", string.char(1) },
>>> { "Ex", string.char(2) },
>>> { "Lev", string.char(3) },
>>> { "Deut", string.char(4) },
>>> { "Lam", string.char(5) },
>>> { "Dan", string.char(6) },
>>> { "Joel", string.char(7) },
>>> { "Ps", string.char(8) },
>>> { "Prov", string.char(9) },
>>> { "Sir", string.char(10) },
>>> { "Mt", string.char(11) },
>>> { "Mk", string.char(12) },
>>>
>>> },
>>> }
>>> \stopluacode
>>>
>>> But the result I get (just showing you a dozen or so, and you will see that
>>> Gen doesn't even turn up in this list ... it does, but much later!):
>>>
>>> Mk 2:19-20 with parallels (PES) 146
>>> Mt 3:8-10 (PES) 135
>>> Prov 3:11-12 (PES) 139, 172
>>> Sir 4:17-18 (PES) 139
>>> Mt 5:5 (PES) 146
>>> Mt 5:6 (MAC) 123
>>> Mt 5:16 (MAC) 121
>>> Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (MAC) 121
>>> Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (PES) 145
>>> Mt 7:13-14 (PES) 146
>>> Sir 10:9 (PES) 142
>>> Mt 11:12 (PRO) 160
>>> Mt 12:34 (MAC) 124, 137
>>> Mt 12:36 (PES) 134
>>> Mk 12:41-44 (MAC) 122
>>> Sir 17:27 (PES) 142
>>>
>>> I have no idea why this is happening. I changed nothing of what you gave me
>>> and removed anything I had previously. If you need an example of how
>>> \bibcit is being used in the text, just in case it helps (but I doubt it),
>>> here is one:
>>>
>>> The widow’s mite pleased God because of her good intention, rather than the
>>> heap of money that the pharisees, urged on by self-love, threw into the
>>> treasury box (cf. \bibcit{Mk 12:41-44 (MAC)}Mk 12:41-44).
>>>
>>> So, not sure where to go from here. Could I perhaps return to my earlier
>>> question, which indicated that by using the keyword approach [a] [b] and so
>>> on, as far as [z] I was at least getting a passable result, but how could I
>>> continue past [z]? Could I have used [1], [2] etc which would allows me to
>>> get as far as 66 (if I were to need every biblical book)?
>> don't set the indicator
>>
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] register for biblical citations
There was no mention of the indicator anywhere in what I copied from
your example. I did try indicator=no just now in case it should be made
explicit:
(\setupregister[bibcit][language=biblical,before=,indicator=no]
but that makes no difference either. Same result. Seemingly random index.
Julian
On 16/4/21 8:06 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 4/16/2021 11:47 AM, jbf wrote:
Hans, thanks for your ingenious solution but there is still a way to
go I suspect!
I implemented (copy-paste) precisely the solution offered and I get
an index but with some strange results ! Notice that in my previous
own solution (but only as far as 26 books!) I at least got an index
in the order of the biblical books, but using the luacode you
offered, I get a seemingly random result (see below).
I extended your example by a few books. so:
\startluacode
sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
method = interfaces.variables.before,
replacements = {
{ "Gen", string.char(1) },
{ "Ex", string.char(2) },
{ "Lev", string.char(3) },
{ "Deut", string.char(4) },
{ "Lam", string.char(5) },
{ "Dan", string.char(6) },
{ "Joel", string.char(7) },
{ "Ps", string.char(8) },
{ "Prov", string.char(9) },
{ "Sir", string.char(10) },
{ "Mt", string.char(11) },
{ "Mk", string.char(12) },
},
}
\stopluacode
But the result I get (just showing you a dozen or so, and you will
see that Gen doesn't even turn up in this list ... it does, but much
later!):
Mk 2:19-20 with parallels (PES) 146
Mt 3:8-10 (PES) 135
Prov 3:11-12 (PES) 139, 172
Sir 4:17-18 (PES) 139
Mt 5:5 (PES) 146
Mt 5:6 (MAC) 123
Mt 5:16 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (PES) 145
Mt 7:13-14 (PES) 146
Sir 10:9 (PES) 142
Mt 11:12 (PRO) 160
Mt 12:34 (MAC) 124, 137
Mt 12:36 (PES) 134
Mk 12:41-44 (MAC) 122
Sir 17:27 (PES) 142
I have no idea why this is happening. I changed nothing of what you
gave me and removed anything I had previously. If you need an example
of how \bibcit is being used in the text, just in case it helps (but
I doubt it), here is one:
The widow’s mite pleased God because of her good intention, rather
than the heap of money that the pharisees, urged on by self-love,
threw into the treasury box (cf. \bibcit{Mk 12:41-44 (MAC)}Mk
12:41-44).
So, not sure where to go from here. Could I perhaps return to my
earlier question, which indicated that by using the keyword approach
[a] [b] and so on, as far as [z] I was at least getting a passable
result, but how could I continue past [z]? Could I have used [1], [2]
etc which would allows me to get as far as 66 (if I were to need
every biblical book)?
don't set the indicator
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Re: [NTG-context] register for biblical citations
Hans, thanks for your ingenious solution but there is still a way to go
I suspect!
I implemented (copy-paste) precisely the solution offered and I get an
index but with some strange results ! Notice that in my previous own
solution (but only as far as 26 books!) I at least got an index in the
order of the biblical books, but using the luacode you offered, I get a
seemingly random result (see below).
I extended your example by a few books. so:
\startluacode
sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
method = interfaces.variables.before,
replacements = {
{ "Gen", string.char(1) },
{ "Ex", string.char(2) },
{ "Lev", string.char(3) },
{ "Deut", string.char(4) },
{ "Lam", string.char(5) },
{ "Dan", string.char(6) },
{ "Joel", string.char(7) },
{ "Ps", string.char(8) },
{ "Prov", string.char(9) },
{ "Sir", string.char(10) },
{ "Mt", string.char(11) },
{ "Mk", string.char(12) },
},
}
\stopluacode
But the result I get (just showing you a dozen or so, and you will see
that Gen doesn't even turn up in this list ... it does, but much later!):
Mk 2:19-20 with parallels (PES) 146
Mt 3:8-10 (PES) 135
Prov 3:11-12 (PES) 139, 172
Sir 4:17-18 (PES) 139
Mt 5:5 (PES) 146
Mt 5:6 (MAC) 123
Mt 5:16 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (PES) 145
Mt 7:13-14 (PES) 146
Sir 10:9 (PES) 142
Mt 11:12 (PRO) 160
Mt 12:34 (MAC) 124, 137
Mt 12:36 (PES) 134
Mk 12:41-44 (MAC) 122
Sir 17:27 (PES) 142
I have no idea why this is happening. I changed nothing of what you gave
me and removed anything I had previously. If you need an example of how
\bibcit is being used in the text, just in case it helps (but I doubt
it), here is one:
The widow’s mite pleased God because of her good intention, rather than
the heap of money that the pharisees, urged on by self-love, threw into
the treasury box (cf. \bibcit{Mk 12:41-44 (MAC)}Mk 12:41-44).
So, not sure where to go from here. Could I perhaps return to my earlier
question, which indicated that by using the keyword approach [a] [b] and
so on, as far as [z] I was at least getting a passable result, but how
could I continue past [z]? Could I have used [1], [2] etc which would
allows me to get as far as 66 (if I were to need every biblical book)?
Julian
On 16/4/21 5:24 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 4/15/2021 11:28 AM, jbf wrote:
My simple MWE:
\defineregister[bibcit]
\setupregister[bibcit][%
indicator=no,
before=]
text... \bibcit[a]{Gen 3:6 (MAC) }Gen 3:6
(and so one for each Genesis reference, then moving on to Leviticus
with [b] etc.)
In other words, I have used the key option [] using the alphabet to
change the order, with Genesis as [a], Exodus [b], Leviticus [c], and
so on.
Problem 1: there are 26 letters in the English alphabet. There are
many more biblical books (OT and NT) than 26, so what do I do when I
reach z?
Problem 2: the (MAC) would not normally be required in any biblical
citation, but in my case it is, as well as (PER), (PRO) and several
other references. In other words, these indicate where, in a set of
documents, the particular citations are to be found. But I think they
may affect the order of citations, so, for example, I get the
following results for the first four books of the Bible:
Gen 3:6 (MAC) 120
Gen 4:2-8 (MAC) 123
Gen 39:6-20 (MAG) 127
Gen 17:1 (PES) 137
Gen 18:27 (PES) 140
Gen 28:10-12 (PES) 141
Ex 20:12 (MAG) 129
Lev 6:5-6 (PES) 136
Deut 6:5 (PES) 145
Lam 3:27 (MAG) 129
Notice that Gen 39:6-20 is out of order in terms of chapters and
verses. It should come after Gen 28:10-12 (PES) but I do not know how
to control that order. It may be that (MAG), which comes after (MAC)
in alphabetical terms, is controlling the order, rather than chapter
and verse which I really want to control the order.
I realise this is complicated, but I'm sure ConTeXt is up to it. I've
got the basics right for getting at least 26 books in some sort of
order, but after that??
cheat (crossed fingers that you have enough entries) :
\startluacode
sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
method = interfaces.variables.before,
replacements = {
{ "Gen", string.char(1) },
{ "Ex", string.char(2) },
{ "Lev", string.char(3) },
{ "Deut", string.char(4) },
{ "Lam", string.char(5) },
},
}
\stopluacode
\defineregister[bibcit] \setupregister[bibcit][language=biblical,before=]
\starttext
test ... \bibcit{Gen 3:6}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 4:2-8}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 39:6-20}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 17:1}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 18:27}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 28:10-12}
test ... \bibcit{Ex 20:12}
test .
Re: [NTG-context] register for biblical citations
On 4/15/2021 11:28 AM, jbf wrote:
My simple MWE:
\defineregister[bibcit]
\setupregister[bibcit][%
indicator=no,
before=]
text... \bibcit[a]{Gen 3:6 (MAC) }Gen 3:6
(and so one for each Genesis reference, then moving on to Leviticus with
[b] etc.)
In other words, I have used the key option [] using the alphabet to
change the order, with Genesis as [a], Exodus [b], Leviticus [c], and so
on.
Problem 1: there are 26 letters in the English alphabet. There are many
more biblical books (OT and NT) than 26, so what do I do when I reach z?
Problem 2: the (MAC) would not normally be required in any biblical
citation, but in my case it is, as well as (PER), (PRO) and several
other references. In other words, these indicate where, in a set of
documents, the particular citations are to be found. But I think they
may affect the order of citations, so, for example, I get the following
results for the first four books of the Bible:
Gen 3:6 (MAC) 120
Gen 4:2-8 (MAC) 123
Gen 39:6-20 (MAG) 127
Gen 17:1 (PES) 137
Gen 18:27 (PES) 140
Gen 28:10-12 (PES) 141
Ex 20:12 (MAG) 129
Lev 6:5-6 (PES) 136
Deut 6:5 (PES) 145
Lam 3:27 (MAG) 129
Notice that Gen 39:6-20 is out of order in terms of chapters and verses.
It should come after Gen 28:10-12 (PES) but I do not know how to control
that order. It may be that (MAG), which comes after (MAC) in
alphabetical terms, is controlling the order, rather than chapter and
verse which I really want to control the order.
I realise this is complicated, but I'm sure ConTeXt is up to it. I've
got the basics right for getting at least 26 books in some sort of
order, but after that??
cheat (crossed fingers that you have enough entries) :
\startluacode
sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
method = interfaces.variables.before,
replacements = {
{ "Gen", string.char(1) },
{ "Ex", string.char(2) },
{ "Lev", string.char(3) },
{ "Deut", string.char(4) },
{ "Lam", string.char(5) },
},
}
\stopluacode
\defineregister[bibcit] \setupregister[bibcit][language=biblical,before=]
\starttext
test ... \bibcit{Gen 3:6}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 4:2-8}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 39:6-20}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 17:1}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 18:27}
test ... \bibcit{Gen 28:10-12}
test ... \bibcit{Ex 20:12}
test ... \bibcit{Lev 6:5-6}
test ... \bibcit{Deut 6:5}
test ... \bibcit{Lam 3:27}
\blank[3*big] \placeregister[bibcit]
\stoptext
but is shows that it's not impossible to come up with a solution
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Re: [NTG-context] register for biblical citations
My simple MWE:
\defineregister[bibcit]
\setupregister[bibcit][%
indicator=no,
before=]
text... \bibcit[a]{Gen 3:6 (MAC) }Gen 3:6
(and so one for each Genesis reference, then moving on to Leviticus with
[b] etc.)
In other words, I have used the key option [] using the alphabet to
change the order, with Genesis as [a], Exodus [b], Leviticus [c], and so on.
Problem 1: there are 26 letters in the English alphabet. There are many
more biblical books (OT and NT) than 26, so what do I do when I reach z?
Problem 2: the (MAC) would not normally be required in any biblical
citation, but in my case it is, as well as (PER), (PRO) and several
other references. In other words, these indicate where, in a set of
documents, the particular citations are to be found. But I think they
may affect the order of citations, so, for example, I get the following
results for the first four books of the Bible:
Gen 3:6 (MAC) 120
Gen 4:2-8 (MAC) 123
Gen 39:6-20 (MAG) 127
Gen 17:1 (PES) 137
Gen 18:27 (PES) 140
Gen 28:10-12 (PES) 141
Ex 20:12 (MAG) 129
Lev 6:5-6 (PES) 136
Deut 6:5 (PES) 145
Lam 3:27 (MAG) 129
Notice that Gen 39:6-20 is out of order in terms of chapters and verses.
It should come after Gen 28:10-12 (PES) but I do not know how to control
that order. It may be that (MAG), which comes after (MAC) in
alphabetical terms, is controlling the order, rather than chapter and
verse which I really want to control the order.
I realise this is complicated, but I'm sure ConTeXt is up to it. I've
got the basics right for getting at least 26 books in some sort of
order, but after that??
Julian
On 15/4/21 6:08 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 4/14/2021 11:16 PM, jbf wrote:
I am wondering if anyone has had to set up a register (index) for
biblical citations, where the order is not alphabetical but the order
of the biblical books themselves, so, for example, citations from
Genesis (e.g. Gen 1:1; Gen 6:4; Ex 15:2; Deut 12:8 etc. etc). I am
not at all sure how to achieve this.
best make some MWE and explain what you expect
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Re: [NTG-context] Index formatting difference LMTX and MkIV redux
Bump.
This is still a problem. Can anyone acknowledge that the problem exists
outside my own installation? If so, is there a work-around? An explanation?
On 10/21/2020 21:42, Rik Kabel wrote:
Hello list,
About two months ago (2020-08-26) I described a difference between
LMTX and MkIV in the setting of index registers entries, and more
particularly, in the trimming of text to fit the available width
therein. I have now created a smallish example to demonstrate the problem.
I do notice that the problem is very sensitive to the width settings,
and slight variations in width create different results with both engines.
This ConTeXt input:
\definepapersize [pinched crown quarto]
[width=6.69in,
height=9.61in]
\setuppapersize [pinched crown quarto]
\setuplayout [width=fit,
backspace=1.4in, cutspace=1in,
leftmargin=0.65in, rightmargin=0.65in]
\setupregister [index]
[n=2, balance=no, maxwidth=4cm]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={Index Test}]
\index{Anonymous+Felix quem faciunt aliena pericula cautum}
\index{{Diderot, Denis}+Et des boyaux du dernier prêtre, Serrons
le cou du dernier roi}
\index{{Dunne, Finley Peter}+Thrust ivrybody, but cut th’ ca-ards}
\index{Eisenhower+Dwight D.+influence … by the military-industrial
complex}
\index{Eisenhower+Dwight D.+plundering, for our own ease and
convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow}
\placeindex
\stopchapter
\stoptext
produces, with MkIV:
and with LMTX:
The example code shows one other instance as well, in the fourth
indexed entry.
Beside looking uglier, this results in a couple more pages for the
same number of index entries.
As I noted in my first description of the problem, this may not be
unique to register processing, and perhaps it is an issue with
limitatetext or doboundtext, or something else entirely.
--
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Re: [NTG-context] index issues
> Am 06.11.2020 um 12:22 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm :
>
> (2)
> Page/column breaking is odd in that the preferred breaking point seems to be
> one entry too early, i.e. the last entry of one letter end up in the next
> column and the previous column is one line too short.
> It doesn’t change with balance=yes/no.
If one of the \index{D...} lines is commented in the following example, the
last D entry goes into the second column, the columns get balanced, and the
second line of the last K entry is broken to the next page.
If you uncomment that line, it looks as intended (no balancing, full left
column).
What’s wrong? Can I influence this e.g. with penalties?
(Screenshots were too big...)
Hraban
\setuppapersize[A6]
\setupbodyfont[16pt]
\setupregister[index][balance=no,indicator=no]
\showframe
\starttext
%\setinjector[index][10][{\column}]
%\showinjector[index] % ERROR!
\index{Danold}
\index{Drum}
%\index{Dapper} % uncomment to test
\index{Kankra}
\index{Kookaburra}
\placeregister[index][criterium=all]
\page
\startregister[index][test]{Knuth}
\input tufte
\index{Donald}\index{Drom}\index{Divine}
\page\index{Dummy}
\input knuth
\index{Donald}\index{Dom}\index{Dunno}
\page
\stopregister[index][test]
\input darwin\index{Darwin}
\page
\dorecurse{5}{
\input knuth
\index{Knuth}\index{Donald}\index{Dixit}
\page\index{Knothing}
}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] index issues
Hello again,
still struggling with indexes.
(1)
\setupregister’s before and after go around the indicator.
e.g. \setupregister[][indicator=no,after={XX}]
never shows that XX, since after is only used after the indicator, while before
also works without.
I was hoping for a hook at the end of a section (to add \testcolumn, \blank
etc. to work around no.2). Is there any?
(2)
Page/column breaking is odd in that the preferred breaking point seems to be
one entry too early, i.e. the last entry of one letter end up in the next
column and the previous column is one line too short.
It doesn’t change with balance=yes/no.
E.g.
p.1
A A
A A
A
A B
A B
A B
A <<<< !?
p.2
B C
B C
B C
C
C
C D
C D
(3)
(How) can I otherwise influence page/column breaking? E.g.
- always keep multi line entries together
- break before or after some entry
(4)
Is it possible to combine entries from \index and \startregister[index]?
If I use \start/stopregister and have the same index entry within the range or
on the same page, I get duplicate pages or page ranges, like 10-12 from
\startregister and additionally 11, 12-13 from \index entries, makes at the
moment 10-12, 11, 12-13 instead of just 10-13.
I’ll prepare MWEs, but maybe you can answer some of these without?
Thank you in advance,
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Index formatting difference LMTX and MkIV redux
Hello list,
About two months ago (2020-08-26) I described a difference between LMTX
and MkIV in the setting of index registers entries, and more
particularly, in the trimming of text to fit the available width
therein. I have now created a smallish example to demonstrate the problem.
I do notice that the problem is very sensitive to the width settings,
and slight variations in width create different results with both engines.
This ConTeXt input:
\definepapersize [pinched crown quarto]
[width=6.69in,
height=9.61in]
\setuppapersize [pinched crown quarto]
\setuplayout [width=fit,
backspace=1.4in, cutspace=1in,
leftmargin=0.65in, rightmargin=0.65in]
\setupregister [index]
[n=2, balance=no, maxwidth=4cm]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={Index Test}]
\index{Anonymous+Felix quem faciunt aliena pericula cautum}
\index{{Diderot, Denis}+Et des boyaux du dernier prêtre, Serrons le
cou du dernier roi}
\index{{Dunne, Finley Peter}+Thrust ivrybody, but cut th’ ca-ards}
\index{Eisenhower+Dwight D.+influence … by the military-industrial
complex}
\index{Eisenhower+Dwight D.+plundering, for our own ease and
convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow}
\placeindex
\stopchapter
\stoptext
produces, with MkIV:
and with LMTX:
The example code shows one other instance as well, in the fourth indexed
entry.
Beside looking uglier, this results in a couple more pages for the same
number of index entries.
As I noted in my first description of the problem, this may not be
unique to register processing, and perhaps it is an issue with
limitatetext or doboundtext, or something else entirely.
--
Rik
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Re: [NTG-context] force index entries without page number
Il 04/09/20 11:01, Henning Hraban Ramm ha scritto:
Am 03.09.2020 um 13:32 schrieb mf :
Use check=yes
But I need check=no, because my author has several entries like
Miller, Carolyne, born Princess of Sayn-Wittgenstein 123–125
Sayn-Wittgenstein, Carolyne of see Miller, Carolyne
i.e. the reference target often has a different wording from the entry,
and thus \seeindex{Something}{} always inserts a "see".
Now I understand.
Since I'm working with XML, I'm using registers in an even stricter way:
the text I'm indexing is actually the ID of a person in a database.
Something like this:
Carolyne
in the main text results in a \index[miller_carolyne]{v18in231}
In another place of the XML there's a record like this:
Miller, Carolyne ...
The deeptextcommand parameter of \setupregister is set to a macro that
takes the ID and gives back the text of the person.
Maybe in the database there's also another record like this:
sort-key="sayn_wittgenstein_carolyne">Sayn-Wittgenstein, Carolyne
Miller, Carolyne
that results in a
\seeindex[sayn_wittgenstein_carolyne]{Sayn-Wittgenstein,
Carolyne}{Miller, Carolyne}
I don’t know how common these "passim" entries are in scientific works; maybe I
could use
Mainperson firstpage–lastpage
instead to avoid the major hassle of tricking the index mechanisms.
in that case \startindex...\stopindex or \startregister...\stopregister
could be your friends.
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] strange behavior with \groupedcommand in recent versions of LMTX
On 9/1/2020 5:47 PM, mf wrote:
\unexpanded\def\groupedwordorparagraphright{\dosingleempty\dogroupedwordorparagraphright}
\def\dogroupedwordorparagraphright[#1]{\groupedcommand{\setbox\scratchbox\hbox\bgroup}
{\egroup\ifdim\wd\scratchbox < \hsize
\wordright{\unhbox\scratchbox}
\else
\par\penalty1
\startalignment[flushright]\unhbox\scratchbox\stopalignment
\fi}}
\unexpanded\def\wordorparagraphright#1{%
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox{#1}
\ifdim\wd\scratchbox < \hsize
\wordright{#1}
\else
\par\penalty1
\startalignment[flushright]\unhbox\scratchbox\stopalignment
\fi}
\starttext
\type{\wordorparagraphright} should use \type{\wordright} if its
argument
is narrower than \type{\hsize}, or make a right-aligned paragraph
with it
when it's wider.
Below, \type{\wordorparagraphright} is tested with a short text, that
has enough room on the same line.
\blank
Reference:
\input ward\wordright{same line, right}
\blank
Implementation as a grouped command (it doesn't work):
\input ward\groupedwordorparagraphright{same line, right}
\blank
Normal implementation, not as a grouped command (it works):
\input ward\wordorparagraphright{same line, right}
\stoptext
Unfortunately the grouped version is the one I need, because it's used
in a register, and it would give an error if not defined through
\groupedcommand:
\setupregister[myregister]
[pageleft=\wordorparagraphright\bgroup,pageright=\egroup]
fortunately there is a solution that takes less code:
\unexpanded\def\whatever
{\dosingleempty\dowhatever}
\def\dowhatever[#1]%
{\dowithnextbox
{\ifdim\wd\nextbox<\hsize
\wordright{\box\nextbox}%
\par
\else
\par
\penalty1
\startalignment[flushright]\unhbox\nextbox\stopalignment
\fi}\hbox}
\starttext
\input ward \whatever{same line, right}
\blank
\input ward \whatever{\input tufte }
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] strange behavior with \groupedcommand in recent versions of LMTX
Hello list,
this is a MWE that worked right in MkIV and in LMTX versions (at least)
until April 22nd, 2020.
There's a macro, \wordorparagraphright, that takes one argument, makes a
hbox with it and measures its width
- if its width is less than \hsize, then it calls \wordright
- if its width is more than \hsize, then it ends the current paragraph
and starts a right-aligned paragraph with the argument
There are two implementations in the MWE: one is through
\groupedcommand, and that's the one that worked once and doesn't now.
\unexpanded\def\groupedwordorparagraphright{\dosingleempty\dogroupedwordorparagraphright}
\def\dogroupedwordorparagraphright[#1]{\groupedcommand{\setbox\scratchbox\hbox\bgroup}
{\egroup\ifdim\wd\scratchbox < \hsize
\wordright{\unhbox\scratchbox}
\else
\par\penalty1
\startalignment[flushright]\unhbox\scratchbox\stopalignment
\fi}}
\unexpanded\def\wordorparagraphright#1{%
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox{#1}
\ifdim\wd\scratchbox < \hsize
\wordright{#1}
\else
\par\penalty1
\startalignment[flushright]\unhbox\scratchbox\stopalignment
\fi}
\starttext
\type{\wordorparagraphright} should use \type{\wordright} if its argument
is narrower than \type{\hsize}, or make a right-aligned paragraph with it
when it's wider.
Below, \type{\wordorparagraphright} is tested with a short text, that
has enough room on the same line.
\blank
Reference:
\input ward\wordright{same line, right}
\blank
Implementation as a grouped command (it doesn't work):
\input ward\groupedwordorparagraphright{same line, right}
\blank
Normal implementation, not as a grouped command (it works):
\input ward\wordorparagraphright{same line, right}
\stoptext
Unfortunately the grouped version is the one I need, because it's used
in a register, and it would give an error if not defined through
\groupedcommand:
\setupregister[myregister]
[pageleft=\wordorparagraphright\bgroup,pageright=\egroup]
TIA,
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] Definition of \registerpagerange (Henning Hraban Ramm)
Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2020, 06:55 +0200 schrieb ntg-context-
requ...@ntg.nl:
> This doesn’t answer your question, but I found:
>
> \setupregister[index][compress=yes] % 14, 15 becomes 14-15
> \setupregister[index][compress=text] % 14, 15 becomes 14f.
>
> To change the "f."/"ff." text, you’d use:
>
> \setuplabeltext[de][following:singular=sq.,following:plural=sqq.]
>
> This is defined in tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-txt.lua
> and addressed in context/base/mkiv/strc-reg.mkiv in the definition of
> \registerpagerange:
>
> \unexpanded\def\registerpagerange#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8% #1:class
> #2:processor content, content todo: -- configurable
> {\pushcurrentregister{#1}%
>\edef\p_pagenumber{\registerparameter\c!pagenumber}%
>\ifx\p_pagenumber\v!no\else
> \registerpageseparator
> \global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\plusone
> \dostarttagged\t!registerpagerange\empty
> \dostarttagged\t!registerfrompage\empty
> \withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}%
> \dostoptagged
> \ifconditional\c_strc_registers_following
>\ifnum#3=\numexpr#6-1\relax
> \labeltext{following:\s!singular}%
>\else
> \labeltext{following:\s!plural}%
>\fi
> \else
>\registeronepagerangeseparator
>\dostarttagged\t!registertopage\empty
>\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#6}{#7}{#8}%
> \fi
> \dostoptagged
> \dostoptagged
>\fi
>\popcurrentregister}
>
> (see
> https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/strc-reg.mkiv?search=singular
> )
>
>
> You should be able to combine the two "else" branches.
Thank you for answering. I have had looked into this source before and
tried exactly the same approach you descrived but I am on TeXlive 2019
where this is defined differently:
\unexpanded\def\registerpagerange#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8% #1:class
#2:processor content, content todo: -- configurable
{\pushcurrentregister{#1}%
\edef\p_pagenumber{\registerparameter\c!pagenumber}%
\ifx\p_pagenumber\v!no\else
\registerpageseparator
\global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\plusone
\dostarttagged\t!registerpagerange\empty
\dostarttagged\t!registerfrompage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}%
\dostoptagged
\registeronepagerangeseparator
\dostarttagged\t!registertopage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#6}{#7}{#8}%
\dostoptagged
\dostoptagged
\fi
\popcurrentregister}
and, most importantly, does not work with this approach:
\unexpanded\def\registerpagerange#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8% #1:class
#2:processor content, content todo: -- configurable
{ \pushcurrentregister{#1}%
\edef\p_pagenumber{\registerparameter\c!pagenumber}%
\ifx\p_pagenumber\v!no\else
\registerpageseparator
\global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\plusone
\dostarttagged\t!registerpagerange\empty
\dostarttagged\t!registerfrompage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}%
\dostoptagged
\ifnum#3=\numexpr#6-1\relax
f.%
\else
\registeronepagerangeseparator
\dostarttagged\t!registertopage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#6}{#7}{#8}%
\fi
\dostoptagged
\dostoptagged
\fi
\popcurrentregister}
May it be that parameters have changed since then?
Best regards
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Re: [NTG-context] Definition of \registerpagerange
> Am 05.05.2020 um 10:35 schrieb Hynek, Stefan :
>
> Hello fellow ConTeXies,
>
> since April 2019 it is possible to use \setupregister with
> compress=text which is a fine addition and has its use cases.
> Unfortunately, I am confronted with the demand to style the registers
> with 'f.' for a following single page and else with page ranges. Since
> the Definition of \registerpagerange is not well documented I don't
> know which parameter to check for the conditional statement when
> rewriting it. Could you please give me a hint?
This doesn’t answer your question, but I found:
\setupregister[index][compress=yes] % 14, 15 becomes 14-15
\setupregister[index][compress=text] % 14, 15 becomes 14f.
To change the "f."/"ff." text, you’d use:
\setuplabeltext[de][following:singular=sq.,following:plural=sqq.]
This is defined in tex/context/base/mkiv/lang-txt.lua
and addressed in context/base/mkiv/strc-reg.mkiv in the definition of
\registerpagerange:
\unexpanded\def\registerpagerange#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8% #1:class #2:processor
content, content todo: -- configurable
{\pushcurrentregister{#1}%
\edef\p_pagenumber{\registerparameter\c!pagenumber}%
\ifx\p_pagenumber\v!no\else
\registerpageseparator
\global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\plusone
\dostarttagged\t!registerpagerange\empty
\dostarttagged\t!registerfrompage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}%
\dostoptagged
\ifconditional\c_strc_registers_following
\ifnum#3=\numexpr#6-1\relax
\labeltext{following:\s!singular}%
\else
\labeltext{following:\s!plural}%
\fi
\else
\registeronepagerangeseparator
\dostarttagged\t!registertopage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#2}{#6}{#7}{#8}%
\fi
\dostoptagged
\dostoptagged
\fi
\popcurrentregister}
(see
https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/strc-reg.mkiv?search=singular)
You should be able to combine the two "else" branches.
HTH
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[NTG-context] Definition of \registerpagerange
Hello fellow ConTeXies,
since April 2019 it is possible to use \setupregister with
compress=text which is a fine addition and has its use cases.
Unfortunately, I am confronted with the demand to style the registers
with 'f.' for a following single page and else with page ranges. Since
the Definition of \registerpagerange is not well documented I don't
know which parameter to check for the conditional statement when
rewriting it. Could you please give me a hint?
In ConTeXt that shipped with TeXlive 2015 it worked that way:
\unexpanded\def\registerpagerange#1#2#3#4#5#6#7%
{\registerpageseparator
\global\setconstant\c_strc_registers_page_state\plusone
\dostarttagged\t!registerpagerange\empty
\dostarttagged\t!registerfrompage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}%
\dostoptagged
\ifnum\the\numexpr#6-#3\relax=1
f.%
\else
\registeronepagerangeseparator
\dostarttagged\t!registertopage\empty
\withregisterpagecommand{#1}{#5}{#6}{#7}%
\dostoptagged
\fi
\dostoptagged}
With best regards
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Re: [NTG-context] index with chapter and section numbers
On 11/7/2019 10:25 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
Hi,
In a math text book, I would like to create an index of some material where
chapter and section numbers are given instead of a page number.
For instance if the result « 3.2.5 Banach Fixed Point Theorem » is stated in
section 2 of chapter 3, and is the fifth numbered statement in that section, I
would like to create a \myindex command so that adding the command
\myindex{Banach Fixed Point Theorem}
at that location, I get in the index created by \myindex a line such as
Banach Fixed Point Theorem 3.2.5
Is this possible?
well, the info is actually there already so i added a new option (that
you then wikify) ...
\setupregister
[index]
[pagesegments=1:4,
pagemethod=section]
\starttext
\chapter {one} \section {alpha}
x\index {whatever 1}x\index {whatever 2}x\index {whatever 2}x \page
x\index {whatever 1}x\index {whatever 2}x\index {whatever 2}x \page
\chapter {one} \section {alpha}
x\index {whatever 1}x\index {whatever 2}x\index {whatever 2}x \page
x\index {whatever 1}x\index {whatever 2}x\index {whatever 2}x \page
\placeindex[n=1]
\stoptext
which then renders:
w
whatever 1 1.1, 2.1
whatever 2 1.1, 2.1
in next beta
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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode
That helps!
But in any case, it looks like the problems are actually several (also the one
of the precise order of the words in the index), and I think the 'fastest'
solution for now is that I just compile the index (only 4 pages), make a
separate component file and rearrange the contents by copy-and-paste. Not the
most elegant of solutions, but it works. :-)
> On 22. Aug 2019, at 01:58, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
> wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> In IV one can do something such as this:
>
> % Registers (Indices)
>
> \defineregister[TIB]
>
> \setupregister[TIB][indicator=yes,compress=yes]
>
> and then in the body:
>
> \TIB[don du gner ba]{don du gñer ba : patthanā : wish}don du gñer ba'i
> phyir rdzogs par byed do
>
> \TIB[non mons]{ñon moṅs : kilesa : defilements}ñon moṅs pa śin tu che
> ba yin-no
>
>
> Richard
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Re: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode
Robert,
In IV one can do something such as this:
% Registers (Indices)
\defineregister[TIB]
\setupregister[TIB][indicator=yes,compress=yes]
and then in the body:
\TIB[don du gner ba]{don du gñer ba : patthanā : wish}don du gñer ba'i
phyir rdzogs par byed do
\TIB[non mons]{ñon moṅs : kilesa : defilements}ñon moṅs pa śin tu che
ba yin-no
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Subject: [NTG-context] formatting index entries: alphabetical order in
Unicode
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 01:42:40 +0200
Mailer:
I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my
book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it)
is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning
with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'.
Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such
special characters?
Robert
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[NTG-context] registers: subentry indentation different from word--number gap?
I don't think the current behavior is a bug, so the following is a
feature request:
With the following fairly minimal example
\setupregister[index][indicator=no, distance=0.5em]
\starttext
ABC\index{x}DEF\index{x+yyz}
\blank
\placeindex
\stoptext
the distance parameter sets (1) the hanging indentation of the 'yyz'
subentry and also (2) the distance between an entry and its pagenumber.
(That's what a look at strc-reg.mkiv shows too.)
It's a matter of taste, but my eye thinks that 0.5em is right for no. 2,
but too small for no. 1 -- whereas the default (1em) is just right for
no. 1 but too large for no. 2.
Thus, could the two dimensions be decoupled and bcome settable
indepently? Perhaps keep 'distance' for the entry--pagenumber distance
(no. 2), which is its meaning on the wiki, and invent 'subdistance' for
the hanging indent (no. 1)?
I've just realized a cheap hack to do the same, so maybe it's not worth
messing with backward compatability by adding a new parameter. The hack:
\def\blah#1{#1\hskip-0.5em}
\setupregister[index][indicator=no, distance=1em, textcommand=\blah]
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[NTG-context] mapping seeregister command to xml
Hi,
I'm having trouble mapping the seeregister command to an xml setup.
Example (looks somewhat messy, but explains why I need it):
\startbuffer[test]
This is a test. IGRR 4, 988sort="IGRR4+988" target="TAM 2 677">IGRR
4+988 = TAM 2, 677sort="TAM2+677">TAM 2+677
\stopbuffer
\startxmlsetups xml:testsetups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{*}{-}
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{document|p|inscription|seeinscription|emph|index}{xml:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:testsetups}
\startxmlsetups xml:document
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlflush{#1} \par
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:emph
{\em \xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:inscription
\expanded{\inscription[\xmlatt{#1}{sort}]{\xmlflush{#1}}}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:seeinscription
\expanded{\seeinscription[\xmlatt{#1}{sort}]{\xmlflush{#1}}{\xmlatt{#1}{target}}}
\stopxmlsetups
\defineregister[inscription][inscriptions]
\setupregister[inscription][pagestyle=,
textstyle=,
location=right,
prefix=none,
indicator=no]
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{test}{}
\blank [line]
\placeregister[inscription]
\stoptext
Maybe my problem is with expansion in index entries? I must admit that I
haven't really grasped why the \expanded was necessary and what it does...
All best
Thomas
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[NTG-context] registers: setting pageleft parameter by index term
Hello list, please consider this MWE:
\definenumber[p]
\setnumber[p][1]
\def\PageLeft{ p.~}
\def\TextCommand#1{\getnumber[p]
#1\doif{\rawcountervalue[p]}{2}{\def\PageLeft{ P.~}}\incrementnumber[p]}
\setupindex[n=1,pageleft=\PageLeft,pageright=,textcommand=\TextCommand]
\starttext
Foo\index{foo}.
\page
Bar\index{bar}.
\page
Baz\index{baz}.
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
The pageleft parameter of \setupindex (\setupregister) is normally set
to " p.~", but it gets redefined to " P.~" for the second term in the
index ("baz").
Here i'm using a counter and i check when it is 2, but i'd like to check
if the term is "baz" (and i don't know how to do that test).
If you use deeptextcommand instead of textcommand, the pageleft
parameter can't be redefined.
The following variation compiles, but it does not work, because pageleft
is always " p.~":
\definenumber[p]
\setnumber[p][1]
\def\PageLeft{ p.~}
\def\TextCommand#1{\getnumber[p]
#1\doif{\rawcountervalue[p]}{2}{\def\PageLeft{ P.~}}\incrementnumber[p]}
\setupindex[n=1,pageleft=\PageLeft,pageright=,deeptextcommand=\TextCommand]
\starttext
Foo\index{foo}.
\page
Bar\index{bar}.
\page
Baz\index{baz}.
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
In my setup i must use deeptextcommand, and i want to set the pageleft
and pageright parameters to a different value for some particular terms
of the index.
Since the argument passed to deeptextcommand is not the text of the term
(it's actually an id used to retrieve a much longer text), i can
discriminate the terms by their id, but i can't setup pageleft and
pageright accordingly from the command specified by deeptextcommand.
On the other hand, textcommand would let me set pageleft and pageright,
but its argument is not pure text, and i don't know how to get the id
from it.
How can i solve this problem?
Thanks,
Massimiliano
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Re: [NTG-context] index "compress" option / collapsing of page numbers
Am 2019-04-03 um 13:30 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> On 4/3/2019 10:56 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Am 2019-04-02 um 18:53 schrieb Hans Hagen :
>>> On 4/2/2019 11:54 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>>>> Ahoi,
>>>> with \setupregister[compress=yes], index entries 1,2,3,4 become 1–4.
>>>> That’s great.
>>>> But (at least in German publications) it’s usual that 1,2 becomes 1f. and
>>>> 1,2,3 becomes 1ff.
>>>> Is it possible to configure it that way?
>>> it should not be too hard to program but, it being german problem:
>>>
>>> - you have to come up with an example
>>> - wolfgang has to come up with a proper keyword (compress=?)
>>>
>> Thank you – it’s not only a German habit, even if we pronounce it
>> “folgende”, “f.” stems from Latin “folio”, and “ff.” is a duplicated
>> abbreviation, as was usual in mediaeval Latin.
>> So, this is at least used in English, German, Norwegian and Swedish, as far
>> as I could find. In French they seem to use “sq.” and “sqq.” (sequens).
>> https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.
>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.
>> https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/sq.
>> I suggest the following setup options:
>> compress = no —> don’t collapse (as now)
>> compress = yes —> always use – (as now)
>> compresssymbols={\,f.,\,ff.} (or how can you setup a list?)
>> compress = symbols —> use first symbol for one other page, second for more
>> pages
>> if there’s only one symbol, more than one sequential page should use –
>> (like “yes”)
>> Is this feasible?
>
> i'll add
>
> \setuplabeltext % predefined
> [en]
> [following:singular=f.,
> following:plural=ff.]
>
> \setupregister[index][compress=text]
Great! Thank you!
I’ll document it.
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Re: [NTG-context] index "compress" option / collapsing of page numbers
On 4/3/2019 10:56 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2019-04-02 um 18:53 schrieb Hans Hagen :
On 4/2/2019 11:54 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Ahoi,
with \setupregister[compress=yes], index entries 1,2,3,4 become 1–4. That’s
great.
But (at least in German publications) it’s usual that 1,2 becomes 1f. and 1,2,3
becomes 1ff.
Is it possible to configure it that way?
it should not be too hard to program but, it being german problem:
- you have to come up with an example
- wolfgang has to come up with a proper keyword (compress=?)
Thank you – it’s not only a German habit, even if we pronounce it “folgende”,
“f.” stems from Latin “folio”, and “ff.” is a duplicated abbreviation, as was
usual in mediaeval Latin.
So, this is at least used in English, German, Norwegian and Swedish, as far as
I could find. In French they seem to use “sq.” and “sqq.” (sequens).
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/sq.
I suggest the following setup options:
compress = no —> don’t collapse (as now)
compress = yes —> always use – (as now)
compresssymbols={\,f.,\,ff.} (or how can you setup a list?)
compress = symbols —> use first symbol for one other page, second for more pages
if there’s only one symbol, more than one sequential page should use –
(like “yes”)
Is this feasible?
i'll add
\setuplabeltext % predefined
[en]
[following:singular=f.,
following:plural=ff.]
\setupregister[index][compress=text]
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Re: [NTG-context] index "compress" option / collapsing of page numbers
Am 2019-04-02 um 18:53 schrieb Hans Hagen :
> On 4/2/2019 11:54 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Ahoi,
>> with \setupregister[compress=yes], index entries 1,2,3,4 become 1–4. That’s
>> great.
>> But (at least in German publications) it’s usual that 1,2 becomes 1f. and
>> 1,2,3 becomes 1ff.
>> Is it possible to configure it that way?
> it should not be too hard to program but, it being german problem:
>
> - you have to come up with an example
> - wolfgang has to come up with a proper keyword (compress=?)
>
Thank you – it’s not only a German habit, even if we pronounce it “folgende”,
“f.” stems from Latin “folio”, and “ff.” is a duplicated abbreviation, as was
usual in mediaeval Latin.
So, this is at least used in English, German, Norwegian and Swedish, as far as
I could find. In French they seem to use “sq.” and “sqq.” (sequens).
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/sq.
I suggest the following setup options:
compress = no —> don’t collapse (as now)
compress = yes —> always use – (as now)
compresssymbols={\,f.,\,ff.} (or how can you setup a list?)
compress = symbols —> use first symbol for one other page, second for more pages
if there’s only one symbol, more than one sequential page should use –
(like “yes”)
Is this feasible?
As far as I see, we need this only for index entries, i.e. \setupregister,
since there’s no command like \at for more than one page anyway; or is there a
need to collapse pages in bibliographies?
Test case:
\usemodule[visual]
\setuppapersize[A6]
\setupregister[index][
compress=yes,
%compresssymbols={\,f.,\,ff.},
%compress=symbols,
]
\starttext
\placeindex\index{nonsense}
\page
\strut\index{something}\page
\strut\index{something}\page
\dorecurse{7}{
\fakewords{10}{100}\index{something}\par
\fakewords{20}{200}\index{other}\par
\fakewords{10}{100}\index{something}\par
}
\index{finis} % not flushed?
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] LMTX deeptextcommand issue
On 4/2/2019 8:41 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
Dear All,
my document ends with the index
\startbackmatter
\chapter{Rejstřík jmenný}
\start
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\placeindexname
\stop
\stopbackmatter
\startbackmatter
\chapter{Rejstřík věcný}
\start
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\placeindexsubject
\stop
\stopbackmatter
At the beginning there is a condition for one word (kind of manual column
balancing) - but according to the log, see below, this seems to be an issue:
\newconditional\IndexState
\define[1]\IndexInternalCommand
{\doifelse{#1}{Dolsko}{\global\settrue\IndexState}{\global\setfalse\IndexSta
te}#1}
\define[1]\IndexCommand
{\setfalse\IndexState
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox{#1}%
\ifconditional\IndexState
\column
\fi
\box\nextbox}
does
\unexpanded\def\IndexCommand#1%
{
work?
\defineregister[indexname][indexnames]
\setupregister[indexname][command=\Word, textcommand=\IndexCommand,
deeptextcommand=\IndexInternalCommand]
\defineregister[indexsubject][indexsubjects]
\setupregister[indexsubject][command=\Word]
\setupheadtext[indexname=Rejstřík jmenný]
\setupheadtext[indexsubject=Rejstřík věcný]
This worked in luatex 1.0.1, but in LMTX I am getting:
structures > begin of sectionblock 'backpart'
structure > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 0.1 -> Rejstřík jmenný
fonts > defining > font 'palab', feature 'locl', script 'latn', no
language 'dflt'
tex error > tex error on line 25 in file
D:/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/page-run.mkiv: ?
[internal expandable lua function call]
\IndexInternalCommand ...\setfalse \IndexState }#1
\IndexCommand ...ate \setbox \scratchbox \hbox {#1
}\ifconditional
\IndexStat...
\doapplyregisterentrycommand ...extcommand {#2
\dostoptagged
\registerentry ...plyregisterentrycommand {#2}{#5}
\fi \else \let
\currentreg...
l.25 }
...l.11633 \stop
15
16 \registerctxluafile{page-run}{}
17
18 \unprotect
19
20 \unexpanded\gdef\showprint{\dotripleempty\page_layouts_show_print}
21
22 \gdef\page_layouts_show_print[#1][#2][#3]% only english
23 {\setbuffer[crap]%
24 \unprotect
25 >> \definepapersize[X][\c!width=4em, \c!height=6em]
26 \definepapersize[Y][\c!width=12em,\c!height=14em]
27 \setuppapersize[X,#1][Y,#2]
28 \setuplayout[#3]
29 \setuplayout[\v!page]
30 \framed
31 [\c!offset=\v!overlay,\c!strut=\v!no,
32\c!width=\paperwidth,\c!height=\paperheight]
33 {\ss ABC\par DEF}%
34 \protect
35\endbuffer
When I've seen that 'crap' and weird page dimensions, I thought it is part
of the April fool, like all that LMTX announcement.
This issue is not urgent, I was just curious how different the output is.
Thanks,
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[NTG-context] LMTX deeptextcommand issue
Dear All,
my document ends with the index
\startbackmatter
\chapter{Rejstřík jmenný}
\start
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\placeindexname
\stop
\stopbackmatter
\startbackmatter
\chapter{Rejstřík věcný}
\start
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\placeindexsubject
\stop
\stopbackmatter
At the beginning there is a condition for one word (kind of manual column
balancing) - but according to the log, see below, this seems to be an issue:
\newconditional\IndexState
\define[1]\IndexInternalCommand
{\doifelse{#1}{Dolsko}{\global\settrue\IndexState}{\global\setfalse\IndexSta
te}#1}
\define[1]\IndexCommand
{\setfalse\IndexState
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox{#1}%
\ifconditional\IndexState
\column
\fi
\box\nextbox}
\defineregister[indexname][indexnames]
\setupregister[indexname][command=\Word, textcommand=\IndexCommand,
deeptextcommand=\IndexInternalCommand]
\defineregister[indexsubject][indexsubjects]
\setupregister[indexsubject][command=\Word]
\setupheadtext[indexname=Rejstřík jmenný]
\setupheadtext[indexsubject=Rejstřík věcný]
This worked in luatex 1.0.1, but in LMTX I am getting:
structures > begin of sectionblock 'backpart'
structure > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 0.1 -> Rejstřík jmenný
fonts > defining > font 'palab', feature 'locl', script 'latn', no
language 'dflt'
tex error > tex error on line 25 in file
D:/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/page-run.mkiv: ?
[internal expandable lua function call]
\IndexInternalCommand ...\setfalse \IndexState }#1
\IndexCommand ...ate \setbox \scratchbox \hbox {#1
}\ifconditional
\IndexStat...
\doapplyregisterentrycommand ...extcommand {#2
\dostoptagged
\registerentry ...plyregisterentrycommand {#2}{#5}
\fi \else \let
\currentreg...
l.25 }
...l.11633 \stop
15
16 \registerctxluafile{page-run}{}
17
18 \unprotect
19
20 \unexpanded\gdef\showprint{\dotripleempty\page_layouts_show_print}
21
22 \gdef\page_layouts_show_print[#1][#2][#3]% only english
23 {\setbuffer[crap]%
24 \unprotect
25 >> \definepapersize[X][\c!width=4em, \c!height=6em]
26 \definepapersize[Y][\c!width=12em,\c!height=14em]
27 \setuppapersize[X,#1][Y,#2]
28 \setuplayout[#3]
29 \setuplayout[\v!page]
30 \framed
31 [\c!offset=\v!overlay,\c!strut=\v!no,
32\c!width=\paperwidth,\c!height=\paperheight]
33 {\ss ABC\par DEF}%
34 \protect
35\endbuffer
When I've seen that 'crap' and weird page dimensions, I thought it is part
of the April fool, like all that LMTX announcement.
This issue is not urgent, I was just curious how different the output is.
Thanks,
Jan
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Re: [NTG-context] index "compress" option / collapsing of page numbers
On 4/2/2019 11:54 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Ahoi, with \setupregister[compress=yes], index entries 1,2,3,4 become 1–4. That’s great. But (at least in German publications) it’s usual that 1,2 becomes 1f. and 1,2,3 becomes 1ff. Is it possible to configure it that way? it should not be too hard to program but, it being german problem: - you have to come up with an example - wolfgang has to come up with a proper keyword (compress=?) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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Ahoi, with \setupregister[compress=yes], index entries 1,2,3,4 become 1–4. That’s great. But (at least in German publications) it’s usual that 1,2 becomes 1f. and 1,2,3 becomes 1ff. Is it possible to configure it that way? Greetlings, Hraban --- https://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Bidi-related register problem
On 1/27/2019 12:07, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 1/27/2019 12:59 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
Here is a much-closer-to minimal example.
\setupregister [index] [maxwidth=4cm]
\setupdirections [bidi=on,method=two]
\starttext
.\index{Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey}
\placeindex
\stoptext
With the \setupdirections line removed, all is well. However, that
line is otherwise required. Setting bidi off around \placeindex is
not an option either, since some index entries require it.
Tricky ... i'll catch it but better use method tree then (later this
year i might redo some r2l code)
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That allows the compilation to complete, but method=three breaks other
stuff. Try this:
\starttext
\setupdirections [bidi=on,method=three]
\rightaligned{(( How is this?}
\stoptext
(I also see problems with boxes set in the margin where before they were
set centered in the textblock, but cannot construct an example yet.)
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Re: [NTG-context] Bidi-related register problem
On 1/27/2019 12:59 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:
Here is a much-closer-to minimal example.
\setupregister [index] [maxwidth=4cm]
\setupdirections [bidi=on,method=two]
\starttext
.\index{Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey}
\placeindex
\stoptext
With the \setupdirections line removed, all is well. However, that line
is otherwise required. Setting bidi off around \placeindex is not an
option either, since some index entries require it.
Tricky ... i'll catch it but better use method tree then (later this
year i might redo some r2l code)
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Re: [NTG-context] Bidi-related register problem
Here is a much-closer-to minimal example.
\setupregister [index] [maxwidth=4cm]
\setupdirections [bidi=on,method=two]
\starttext
.\index{Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey}
\placeindex
\stoptext
With the \setupdirections line removed, all is well. However, that line
is otherwise required. Setting bidi off around \placeindex is not an
option either, since some index entries require it.
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[NTG-context] Bidi-related register problem
Recent betas have introduced a bidi-related problem with register
processing.
In the following example, compilation generates a recoverable error when
register processing has to trim an entry to fit maxwidth. The error is:
luatex warning > node filter: error:
...eXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/typo-dub.lua:496: attempt to index
local 'stacktop' (a nil value)
Removing the maxwidth constraint, or setting it to a much wider value,
allows error-free compilation.
Without \setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two] there is no problem, but
without it RTL texts are not handled properly. This is a recent change;
bidi=global worked a few months ago. (I have not tried with LTR text in
a default-RTL document).
% macros=mkvi
\defineregister[Mindex]
\setupregister [Mindex]
[n=2,
maxwidth=4cm,
balance=no]
\starttexdefinition unexpanded MIndex
\dosinglegroupempty\doMIndex
\stoptexdefinition
\starttexdefinition unexpanded doMIndex #MARKER
\def\Marker{#MARKER}%
\dosinglegroupempty\doMIndexFull
\stoptexdefinition
\starttexdefinition doMIndexFull #ITEM
\doifelse{#ITEM}{}
{\expanded{\Mindex{\Marker}}}
{\expanded{\Mindex{\Marker+#ITEM}}}
\stoptexdefinition
\setupdirections [bidi=on,method=two]
\setupbodyfont [libertinus,11pt]
\starttext
\startparagraph
\MIndex{One}{Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey}
\input jojomayer
\stopparagraph
\startparagraph
סלאם שלום
\stopparagraph
\placeregister[Mindex]
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Re: [NTG-context] Sorting registers method for "uppercase like lowercase, diacritics ignored"
I don’t know if this setup is supposed to work with \place..., for me
\setupregister[method={zm,pm,zc,zm,uc}] works.
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Am 2019-01-20 um 21:59 schrieb Marcus Vinicius Mesquita
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> Dear list,
>
> In the wiki page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Registers it is said that:
>
> - There’s no preset for the combination "uppercase like lowercase, diacritics
> ignored", try "zm,pm,zc,zm,uc".
>
> Well, I tried all possible permutations thereof, and also the predefined
> methods, and none gives what my editor wants, which is just "uppercase like
> lowercase, diacritics ignored".
> See MWE attached.
> Please, would somebody help me achieve the desired result?
>
> TIA
>
> ConTeXt version:
> ConTeXt Process Management 1.02
> current version: 2019.01.19 12:06
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Sorting registers method for "uppercase like lowercase, diacritics ignored"
On 20.01.19 21:59, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita wrote:
Well, I tried all possible permutations thereof, and also the predefined
methods, and none gives what my editor wants, which is just "uppercase like
lowercase, diacritics ignored".
See MWE attached.
Please, would somebody help me achieve the desired result?
Your example doesn't contain any uppercase letters. Which makes it a bit
difficult to test what you're looking for. I must admit that I'm not
very familiar with register "methods," I assume that Wolfgang or Hans
will be able to tell you how to use them. For your case, if you merely
want to get rid of all distinctions between upper- and lowercase,
accents, etc., you could use
Lua (slightly modified example):
\mainlanguage[pt]
\defineregister [nome]
\setupregister [nome] [
language=pt,
n=1,
]
\startluacode
userdata = userdata or { }
function userdata.indexing(s)
t = characters.lower(characters.shaped(s))
context.nome( { t }, s)
end
\stopluacode
\def\mynome#1%
{\ctxlua{userdata.indexing([==[#1]==])}}
\starttext
\mynome{árvore}árvore \mynome{Äard}Äard \mynome{água}água
\mynome{Água}Água \mynome{abnegação}abnegação \mynome{alegria}alegria
\mynome{agrilhoado}agrilhoado \mynome{anjo}anjo \mynome{ódio}ódio
\mynome{orgulho}orgulho \mynome{Åz}Åz \mynome{Åaaa}Åaaa \mynome{Özz}Özz
\mynome{Öaa}Öaa
\page[yes]
\placeregister [nome]
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Documentation of change / Evolving documents
Hi,
I often have documents that are not finished but need to change over time.
A client changes their mind, laws are changed, …
While working with the document, I want to see the changes.
When the document is finally finished, I only want to see the change history.
I came up with the following.
When the mode is „change“ the date (or version) is shown in the margin and the
change is printed in red.
Without mode „change“ only the change history is printed.
What I want now is to change the layout of the register.
Adding some vspace around the date and printing the date in bold.
Is there a way to achieve this or am I on the wrong way?
(Should the date be the indicator, thus giving me the layout I want?)
\enablemode[change]
\setuppapersize [A4][A4]
\setuplayout[width=middle, backspace=1.5in, cutspace=1.5in,
height=middle, topspace=0.75in, bottomspace=0.75in]
\setupbodyfont[11pt]
\defineregister [change]
\setupregister [change] [
indicator=no %% no letter
style=sansbold, %% headings
textstyle=slanted,%% entries
pagestyle=bolditalic, %% page refs
n=1, %% columns
]
\def\ChangeV#1#2{\change{#1+#2}\doifmode{change}{\inmargin{\tx #1}{\red
#2\par}}}
\def\ChangeD#1#2{\change{#1+#2}\doifmode{change}{\inmargin{\tx #1}{\red
#2\par}}}
\starttext
\ChangeV{V. 1.0}{Fertig!}
\input knuth
\ChangeD{2018-12-22}{Fertig!}
\ChangeD{2018-12-23}{Letzter Fehler beseitigt.}
\input knuth
\ChangeD{2018-12-23}{Allerletzter Fehler beseitigt.}
Ende
\startsection[title={History}]
\placechange
\stopsection
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible seeindex enhancement
On 10/25/2018 16:39, Rik Kabel wrote:
List,
I am looking for a way to modify the text used for \seeindex (in
English, "see") to have two types of seeindex result in the same index
register. I would like to produce, for example,
pseudepigraphy, 103,/see also obliteration/
and at the same time be able to produce the standard
Marut, Ret,/see Traven, B./
For the first of these in print documents (no interaction required) I
can use \seeindex{pseudepigraphy}{also obliteration}, but that does
not produce an interactive link.
Can anyone suggest how to accomplish this?
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Following up on my post, here is an MWE demonstrating the lack of
interaction, which is expected because {also obliteration} is not indexed:
\setupinteraction [state=start]
\setupregister[index]
[check=no]
\seeindex {pseudepigraphy}
{also obliteration}
\seeindex {Matilda effect}
{obliteration}
\seeindex {Marut, Ret}
{Traven, B.}
\starttext
Something, but could be only \tex{dontleavhmode}.
\index{obliteration}
\index{pseudepigraphy}
\index{Traven, B.}
\placeindex
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Re: [NTG-context] index with more than one column?
Try it without the columns environment in your document, i.e.
\startchapter[title=\mytitle{Register}]
\placeregister[index]
\stopchapter
Hans van der Meer schrieb am 26.08.18 um 17:48:
Could the following setup I used be the culprit?
\setupregister[index][pagestyle=slanted,textstyle=small,alternative=A]
On 26 Aug 2018, at 17:43, Wolfgang Schuster
<mailto:wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The real question is why do you get an index without two columns.
\starttext
\dorecurse{26}{\convertnumber{a}{#1}\expanded{\index{\convertnumber{a}{#1
\placeregister[index]%[n=3]
\stoptext
Hans van der Meer schrieb am 26.08.18 um 17:37:
How do I produce an index with more than one column?
This produces one column only:
\startchapter[title=\mytitle{Register}]
\startcolumns[n=2]
\placeregister[index]
\stopcolumns
Nor did \placeregister[index][n=2] or \placeindex[n=2], with or
without the columns envirenment, produce the result wanted.
The \startsimplecolumns[n=2] environment did produce two columns,
but then played havoc with the textheight.
dr. Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] seeindex problem with recent betas
On 8/8/2018 23:48, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \setupregister[index][check=no] Wolfgang Thank you, Wolfgang. I saw the discussion on the list, but missed it in i-context.pdf. Wiki updated. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] seeindex problem with recent betas
\setupregister[index][check=no] Wolfgang Rik Kabel schrieb am 09.08.18 um 04:32: With older versions of ConTeXt (including that in TL18) seeindex entries pointing to a multi-level (plussed) index entry worked (visually, at least) without complaint. The output might look like: Digby, John 73 Dilbert see Adams+Scott Dirac, Paul 287 or Digby, John 73 Dilbert see Adams, Scott Dirac, Paul 287 where the second part is a literal repeat of what is in the second argument of seeindex. (It is not, however, linked to the plussed entry as it would be to a single-level entry.) However, current version (2018.07.27 19:12) generates a result like: Digby, John 73 Dilbert Dirac, Paul 287 along with the warning: structure > registers > invalid crosslink : Adams+Scott, ignored Surely it is better to display the non-linked see entry as before (together with the warning message so that the non-linking is pointed out) and have a printable document than it is to display an empty entry! -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] issue with balanced columns
Dear list,
I have the following sample:
\showframe
\showgrid
\setuplanguage[agr][patterns={agr, us}]
\mainlanguage[agr]
\definepapersize[HippPaper][width=6in, height=9in]
\setuppapersize[HippPaper]
\setupbodyfont[dejavu, 13pt]
\setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic, x=.95]
\setupregister[index]
[language=gr,
indicator=no,
before=,
after=,
distance=3ex,
textstyle=\tfx,
pagenumber=no,
n=2,
align={verybroad, hz,hanging},
method={zm,zc}]
\starttext
\mbox{}
\index{ἀδελφός, ὁ: brother}
\index{ἀδικίη, ἡ: wrongdoing, injustice}
\index{ἀκρόησις, –ιος, ἡ: hearing, listening}
\index{ἄνευ: without (\char43\ gen.)}
\index{ἄρρην, –εν: male}
\index{γένος, –εος, τό: race, family}
\index{δήλησις, –ιος, ἡ: ruin, bane}
\index{διαίτημα, –ατος, τό: regimen, diet}
\index{ἐπικρίνω: decide, consider}
\index{ἰητρικός, –ή, –όν: of a physician, medical}
\index{κάμνω: be sick, suffer from illness}
\index{λοιπός, –ή, –όν: remaining, rest}
\index{μάθησις, –ιος, ἡ: learning}
\index{μαθητής, –οῦ, ὁ: learner, pupil}
\index{μανθάνω: learn}
\index{μισθός, ὁ: wages, pay, hire}
\index{νόμος, ὁ: custom, law}
\index{ὁρκίζω: bind by oath}
\index{υἱός, ὁ: son}
\index{χρέομαι: use}
\index{ὠφέλειη, ἡ: help, aid, benefit}
\placeindex
\stoptext
Although colums are balanced, I get unbalanced columns.
Is there a command that prevents the wrong balanced columns?
Many thanks for your help,
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Re: [NTG-context] Overriding / redefining / disabling standard commands
Alan Braslau <mailto:braslau.l...@comcast.net> 26. Juni 2018 um 04:00 On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:50:51 -0400 \setupregister[index][referencing=off] This option doesn’t exist in MkIV and there is no other option to disable \index. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Overriding / redefining / disabling standard commands
On 6/25/2018 22:00, Alan Braslau wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:50:51 -0400
Rik Kabel wrote:
On 6/25/2018 20:11, Alan Braslau wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:11:30 -0400
Rik wrote:
On 6/25/2018 17:52, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
\startmode[ebook]
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\stopmode
\starttext
\index{Knuth}\input knuth
\index{Ward}\input ward
\index{Zapf}\input zapf
\startnotmode[*export]
\completeregister[index]
\stopnotmode
\stoptext
Unfortunately, this does not suppress generation of index
references in the exported output. Here is a snippet of the
-div.html file generated by the example you provided:
Thus,
I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new system must not
only be the implementer and first large--scale user; the
designer should also write the first user manual.
and a snip of the output with the default css:
Thus the request for a (simple) mechanism to redefine or disable
standard commands. There are commands other than \index that might
also benefit from similar treatment.
\def\MyIndex#1{\index{#1}}
is one route.
Another might be
\let\index\gobbleoneargument
(use at your risk)
Alan
This would work if \index took one argument, but it takes as well an
optional argument preceding the required argument, and so these fail.
The best solution would seem to be one which does not require
knowledge of the number of required and optional arguments, but that
might be a stretch.
That is why I asked for help.
\setupregister[index][referencing=off]
Besides, if you use \index, why object to index reference tags in the
export?
Alan
Alan (and list),
This option still leaves the registerlocation entries in the html file,
and so accomplishes nothing that Wolfgang's suggestion did. Being
implemented in the environment file, it does have the advantage of not
requiring changes to the content source file.
As to why I object to index reference tags in the export: There are a
few constructs beyond indexes that I wish to exclude in export output --
indices are one and the problem is easily demonstrated. Referencetags
themselves are not a significant problem -- a little css will hide them.
I have not explored the other constructs yet (among them margin notes
and cross-references) but was hoping for a generic solution, or at least
an easily adapted per command solution.
There are a few options I can see. In order of least to most preferred,
I can maintain separate sources; I can invoke a filter in my makefile to
preprocess the source, removing \index commands (or margin notes, or
...); I can redefine \index (or margin notes, or ...) to be no-ops.
As much as possible I would like to use the same content source files
for different output formats with some unique environment files. Filters
are an added step and fragile, depending on correctly identifying the
target constructs. So, I have been looking at redefinition.
I thought that the ability to override a command like \index might be
generally useful, and so brought it up to the list when I could not find
a way to do it.
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Re: [NTG-context] Overriding / redefining / disabling standard commands
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:50:51 -0400
Rik Kabel wrote:
> On 6/25/2018 20:11, Alan Braslau wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:11:30 -0400
> > Rik wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/25/2018 17:52, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >>> \startmode[ebook]
> >>> \setupbackend[export=yes]
> >>> \stopmode
> >>>
> >>> \starttext
> >>>
> >>> \index{Knuth}\input knuth
> >>>
> >>> \index{Ward}\input ward
> >>>
> >>> \index{Zapf}\input zapf
> >>>
> >>> \startnotmode[*export]
> >>> \completeregister[index]
> >>> \stopnotmode
> >>>
> >>> \stoptext
> >> Unfortunately, this does not suppress generation of index
> >> references in the exported output. Here is a snippet of the
> >> -div.html file generated by the example you provided:
> >>
> >> >> onclick="location.href=#aut-1">Thus,
> >> I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new system must not
> >> only be the implementer and first large--scale user; the
> >> designer should also write the first user manual.
> >>
> >> and a snip of the output with the default css:
> >>
> >> Thus the request for a (simple) mechanism to redefine or disable
> >> standard commands. There are commands other than \index that might
> >> also benefit from similar treatment.
> >>
> > \def\MyIndex#1{\index{#1}}
> >
> > is one route.
> >
> > Another might be
> >
> > \let\index\gobbleoneargument
> >
> > (use at your risk)
> >
> > Alan
> >
> This would work if \index took one argument, but it takes as well an
> optional argument preceding the required argument, and so these fail.
>
> The best solution would seem to be one which does not require
> knowledge of the number of required and optional arguments, but that
> might be a stretch.
>
> That is why I asked for help.
\setupregister[index][referencing=off]
Besides, if you use \index, why object to index reference tags in the
export?
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] sort order in registers (indexes)
Am 2018-06-10 um 20:50 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm :
> Ah, thanks for the hint. But how can I employ these definitions with
> index/list ordering?
> Setting mainlanguage and method "*,uc" doesn’t seem to do the trick.
Sorry, found it. In my test file there was still "language=cz" in the setup,
and the language key is not documented.
> Hans, please add the replacement
> { "ß", "ss" }
> to definitions['DIN 5007-1'] and definitions['DIN 5007-2']
> Thank you!
Wikified:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupregister
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/keyword:method
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Re: [NTG-context] sort order in registers (indexes)
Am 2018-06-10 um 14:11 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm :
> Am 2018-06-10 um 13:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm :
>
>>> I think this may achieve what you want:
>>> \setupregister[index][method={zm,zc}]
>>> I hope it helps,
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> I overlooked that there is indeed some documentation:
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/keyword:method
>
> But reading through that and the source I’m still confused.
>
> I’d like to write a proper explanation for the wiki (and my book).
>
> Is there anywhere documentation about the meaning/goal of the presets or
> algorithms?
>
> Are these codes translatable into something like "ignore diacritics", "ignore
> upper/lowercase" etc.?
Ok, I think I got it...
For a proper sorting, you first apply a "mapping", then a "casing" and finally
"unicode".
Presets:
default = upper like lowercase, diacritics separate
before = upper before lower, diacritics ignored
after = lower before upper, diacritics ignored
first = lower before upper, diacritics separate
last= upper before lower, diacritics separate
* If you don’t set the sorting method, the preset "first" ist used (and not
"default").
* There’s no preset for the (in my eyes most meaningful) combination "upper
like lowercase, diacritics ignored" (zm,zc,uc).
* Aren’t language specific sorting rules possible at the current state? Or does
"unicode" handle that?
E.g.
-- DIN 5007-1 (German default sorting) is like zm,zc,uc, but ß should be sorted
like ss.
-- DIN 5007-2 (German phonebook sorting) would additionally require umlauts to
be sorted as ä = ae etc.
-- Austrian phonebook sorting sorts umlauts after base vocals, i.e. a, ä, o, ö,
u, ü, s, ß.
-- Danish and Norwegian: x, y, z, æ, ø, å
-- Finnish and Swedish: x, y = ü, z, æ, ä, ö, ø, å (until 2006 v = w)
-- etc.
(according to https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetische_Sortierung)
If nobody objects I’ll add this to the wiki.
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Re: [NTG-context] sort order in registers (indexes)
Am 2018-06-10 um 13:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm :
>> I think this may achieve what you want:
>> \setupregister[index][method={zm,zc}]
>> I hope it helps,
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> I overlooked that there is indeed some documentation:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/keyword:method
But reading through that and the source I’m still confused.
Source snippet:
local validmethods = tohash {
"ch", -- raw character (for tracing)
"mm", -- minus mapping
"zm", -- zero mapping
"pm", -- plus mapping
"mc", -- lower case - 1
"zc", -- lower case
"pc", -- lower case + 1
"uc", -- unicode
}
local predefinedmethods = {
[v_default] = "zc,pc,zm,pm,uc",
[v_before] = "mm,mc,uc",
[v_after] = "pm,mc,uc",
[v_first] = "pc,mm,uc",
[v_last]= "pc,mm,uc",
}
I’d like to write a proper explanation for the wiki (and my book).
Is there anywhere documentation about the meaning/goal of the presets or
algorithms?
Are these codes translatable into something like "ignore diacritics", "ignore
upper/lowercase" etc.?
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Re: [NTG-context] sort order in registers (indexes)
Am 2018-06-10 um 12:42 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez :
> On 06/10/2018 11:49 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Ahoi,
>>
>> usually, uppercase index entries are sorted before all lowercase entries.
>> Is there a simple setup to change that?
>>
>> i.e. I need the sorting
>> sum - Sun - sunny
>> instead of
>> Sun - sum - sunny
>>
>> I know I can influence sort order for single entries, but I’d like a general
>> setting.
>
> Hi Hraban,
>
> I think this may achieve what you want:
>
> \setupregister[index][method={zm,zc}]
>
> I hope it helps,
Thank you very much!
I overlooked that there is indeed some documentation:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/keyword:method
(Source:
http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git/blob/HEAD:/tex/context/base/sort-ini.lua)
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Re: [NTG-context] sort order in registers (indexes)
On 06/10/2018 11:49 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Ahoi,
>
> usually, uppercase index entries are sorted before all lowercase entries.
> Is there a simple setup to change that?
>
> i.e. I need the sorting
> sum - Sun - sunny
> instead of
> Sun - sum - sunny
>
> I know I can influence sort order for single entries, but I’d like a general
> setting.
Hi Hraban,
I think this may achieve what you want:
\setupregister[index][method={zm,zc}]
I hope it helps,
Pablo
> (Diacritics are handled as wanted.)
>
>
> \starttext
> \strut
> \index{Sun}\index{sun}\index{Suomi}\index{suave}
> \index{sunny}\index{sum}\index{Sumatra}\index{summon}
> \index{sample}\index{super}
> \index{şample}\index{südlich}\index{súper}
> \index{şun}\index{sün}\index{şüñ}
>
> \completeindex
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] \seeindex with subentries
This has been reported before...
BTW, how should cat+Siamese be formatted?
cat 1
Burmese 1
obese, see Siamese
or
cat 1
Burmese 1
obese, see cat, Siamese
Clearly the second case would be needed for
\seeindex{pet+obese}{cat+Siamese}
with
pet
obese, see cat, Siamese
Alan
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 21:44:13 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> This MWE:
>
> """
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> \setupregister[index][n=1]
>
> \starttext
> My \index{dog}dog is a \index{dog+bullterrier}bullterrier.
> He doesn't like \index{cat}cats.
> There are a lot of \index{cat+stray}stray cats, but only a few of
> them are \index{cat+Siamese}Siamese. I don’t think there are
> \index{cat+Burmese}Burmese cats.
>
> \seeindex{cat+obese}{cat+Siamese}
> \seeindex{hound}{dog}
>
> \completeindex
>
> \stoptext
> """
>
> ... shows two problems at once:
>
> """
> c
> cat 1
> Burmese 1, see cat+Siamese
> Siamese 1
> stray 1
> d
> dog 1
> bullterrier 1
> h
> hound see dog
> """
>
> While the reference "hound see dog" is properly formatted, cat+obese
> is missing (i.e. sorted under Burmese) while there is no
> \index{cat+obese}, and the reference "cat+Siamese" is shown as-is,
> not properly formatted.
>
> That means, refering to index sub-entries is broken at the moment
> (current beta and at least several previous).
>
>
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[NTG-context] \seeindex with subentries
This MWE:
"""
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupregister[index][n=1]
\starttext
My \index{dog}dog is a \index{dog+bullterrier}bullterrier.
He doesn't like \index{cat}cats.
There are a lot of \index{cat+stray}stray cats, but only a few of them are
\index{cat+Siamese}Siamese. I don’t think there are \index{cat+Burmese}Burmese
cats.
\seeindex{cat+obese}{cat+Siamese}
\seeindex{hound}{dog}
\completeindex
\stoptext
"""
... shows two problems at once:
"""
c
cat 1
Burmese 1, see cat+Siamese
Siamese 1
stray 1
d
dog 1
bullterrier 1
h
hound see dog
"""
While the reference "hound see dog" is properly formatted, cat+obese is missing
(i.e. sorted under Burmese) while there is no \index{cat+obese}, and the
reference "cat+Siamese" is shown as-is, not properly formatted.
That means, refering to index sub-entries is broken at the moment (current beta
and at least several previous).
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Re: [NTG-context] roadmap
> > * References: see Massimiliano’s question, apparently there are > > options missing for code before/after the list of pages > > These hooks were added; adding a few more hooks is normally no big > deal > ... the main problem with such additions is that they seldom get > documented (in fact that imo is also a it up to the one requesting > such > features). > Touché! I've added them to the wiki. I was already updating that page of the wiki (\setupregister) on Friday, but also realized that it was way behind the syntax you can check with setup-en.pdf (the Commands manual). It missed the brand new "pageleft" and "pageright" parameters, but even much more than them. So i asked myself about the opportunity to document a brand new feature without the missing ones that have been already in place for a much longer time. Anyway, that's the spirit of a wiki: everybody can add his 2 cents of knowledge. The table of the command parameters was also difficult to read and modify in the wiki source, so i gave up for that moment and wondered about a more general solution for command documentation. Your messages today motivated me to update that page anyway. The setup-en.pdf manual is a great source of documentation and it's synchronized with every new version, because it's automatically generated from sources. It lets you know the commands, their parameters and their types. I've looked a bit into the "i-" files in the "interface" directory of the ConTeXt distribution, and i've seen that the commands are also classified into categories. What you miss in that manual is the parameters' meaning and some example of usage. I'm thinking about some companion files to the "i-" ones that carry the information about the parameters' meaning and usage. Some of those texts could be "recycled" from the current wiki pages. Then we could generate some automatic, up to date wiki pages directly from the combination of those files. I'm not going to work on that before the meeting and i've already promised more than i can achieve. But we could discuss that at the meeting. Greetings, Massi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
\wordright is ok until the numbers don't exceed the text width.
It manages these two cases right:
Index term, and some
text 21, 34, 45, 72
Index term, and some
text
21, 34, 45, 72, 89
When the numbers exceed the text width, it fails:
Index term, and some
text
21, 34, 45, 72, 89, 101, 103, 109
It fails because it uses a hbox, that can't do nothing but running
beyond the right margin.
This would be a solution:
Index term, and some
text
21, 34, 45, 72, 89,
101, 103, 109
where the rule is: when the numbers exceed the text width, close the
paragraph, then start a new, right aligned one.
So i wrote this:
---
\def\wordorparagraphright#1{\let\scratchWidth\relax
\setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{#1}\newdimen\scratchWidth
\scratchWidth=\wd\scratchbox
\ifdim\scratchWidth < 0.9\textwidth
\wordright{#1}%
\else
\par
\startalignment[flushright]#1\stopalignment
\fi}
\starttext
\input sapolsky \wordorparagraphright{\it other text} \par
\blank
\input sapolsky \wordorparagraphright{\it other text, this time longer}
\par
\blank
\input sapolsky \wordorparagraphright{\it other text, this time
much much much much much much much much much much much much
much much much much much much much much much much longer} \par
\stoptext
---
But it doesn't work with
---
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages
{\begingroup
\dostarttagged\t!registerpages\empty
\useregisterstyleandcolor\c!pagestyle\c!pagecolor
\registerparameter\c!pageleft}
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages
{\registerparameter\c!pageright
\dostoptagged
\endgroup}
\protect
\def\wordorparagraphright#1{\let\scratchWidth\relax
\setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{#1}\newdimen\scratchWidth
\scratchWidth=\wd\scratchbox
\ifdim\scratchWidth < 0.9\textwidth
\w
ordright{#1}%
\else
\par
\startalignment[flushright]#1\stopalign
ment
\fi}
\setupregister
[index]
[n=1,
alternative=A,
distance=0pt,
pageleft=\wordorparagraphright\bgroup,
pageright=\egroup]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
---
I suppose it's related to the problem that \groupedcommand solves.
Is there a solution?
An even better solution would be:
Index term, and some
text 21, 34, 45, 72,
89, 101, 103, 109
where the rule is: put the text until it fills the current line, than
proceed flushing the remainder of the paragraph lines to the right.
Here i tried changing \leftskip in the middle of a paragraph, but it
works globally.
I think this is even harder to implement, at least in the middle of the
register macros.
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Re: [NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
On 5/10/2018 12:35 PM, MF wrote:
This is a more polite version, that lets you restore the original
macros.
\let\origstartregisterpages=\startregisterpages%
\let\origstopregisterpages=\stopregisterpages%
\def\setupregisterpagescommand#1{%
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages{\origstartregisterpages#1\bgroup }
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages{\egroup\origstopregisterpages}}
\def\resetregisterpagescommand{%
\let\startregisterpages=\origstartregisterpages%
\let\stopregisterpages=\origstopregisterpages}
\setupregister[index][n=1,alternative=A]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\setupregisterpagescommand{\wordright}
\placeindex
\page
\resetregisterpagescommand
\placeindex
\stoptext
btw, Hans, are you going to add an option to \setupregister? :)
knowing that wolfgang looked into it i just wait till he cooks up something
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Re: [NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
The following solution which adds two additional keys (pageleft and
pageright)
is cleaner because it doesn’t have to overload commands.
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages
{\begingroup
\dostarttagged\t!registerpages\empty
\useregisterstyleandcolor\c!pagestyle\c!pagecolor
\registerparameter\c!pageleft}
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages
{\registerparameter\c!pageright
\dostoptagged
\endgroup}
\protect
\setupregister
[index]
[n=1,
alternative=A,
distance=0pt,
pageleft=\wordright\bgroup,
pageright=\egroup]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
MF <mailto:mass...@fastwebnet.it>
10. Mai 2018 um 12:35
This is a more polite version, that lets you restore the original
macros.
\let\origstartregisterpages=\startregisterpages%
\let\origstopregisterpages=\stopregisterpages%
\def\setupregisterpagescommand#1{%
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages{\origstartregisterpages#1\bgroup }
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages{\egroup\origstopregisterpages}}
\def\resetregisterpagescommand{%
\let\startregisterpages=\origstartregisterpages%
\let\stopregisterpages=\origstopregisterpages}
\setupregister[index][n=1,alternative=A]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\setupregisterpagescommand{\wordright}
\placeindex
\page
\resetregisterpagescommand
\placeindex
\stoptext
btw, Hans, are you going to add an option to \setupregister? :)
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Re: [NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
This is a more polite version, that lets you restore the original
macros.
\let\origstartregisterpages=\startregisterpages%
\let\origstopregisterpages=\stopregisterpages%
\def\setupregisterpagescommand#1{%
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages{\origstartregisterpages#1\bgroup }
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages{\egroup\origstopregisterpages}}
\def\resetregisterpagescommand{%
\let\startregisterpages=\origstartregisterpages%
\let\stopregisterpages=\origstopregisterpages}
\setupregister[index][n=1,alternative=A]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\setupregisterpagescommand{\wordright}
\placeindex
\page
\resetregisterpagescommand
\placeindex
\stoptext
btw, Hans, are you going to add an option to \setupregister? :)
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Re: [NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
Thanks Wolfgang and sorry if i reply to my mail, since i've downloaded
yours on another PC.
I've found these macros in strc-reg.mkiv, that are called right before
and after the page numbers:
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages
{\begingroup
\dostarttagged\t!registerpages\empty
\useregisterstyleandcolor\c!pagestyle\c!pagecolor}
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages
{\dostoptagged
\endgroup}
And this seems to work:
\let\origstartregisterpages=\startregisterpages%
\let\origstopregisterpages=\stopregisterpages%
\unexpanded\def\startregisterpages{\origstartregisterpages\wordright\bg
roup }
\unexpanded\def\stopregisterpages{\egroup\origstopregisterpages}
\setupregister[index][n=1,alternative=A]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
I've also learned about \groupedcommand, which i did not know.
Again, thanks for you help.
Best wishes,
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
There is no option to apply a command to all page numbers but you can
add something after the register entry with the textcommand key.
Be aware this solution isn’t perfect because in the worst case
(narrow columns for the register or long entries) page numbers
can be split on multiple lines.
\setupregister
[index]
[n=1,
alternative=A,
textcommand=\groupedcommand{}{\hfill\quad}]
Wolfgang
MF <mailto:mass...@fastwebnet.it>
9. Mai 2018 um 17:09
Hello list,
i'd like moving the page numbers in my index to the right, with a
\wordright.
\setupregister[index][n=1,alternative=A]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
The index is at page 4. I want to move the numbers "1,3" and "2" to the
right.
The parameter pagecommand is for the single page number, i want to put
a command (\wordright) around the whole block of page numbers.
How can i do that?
Greetings,
Massi
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[NTG-context] registers: how can I place a command around the whole of the page numbers of an index term?
Hello list,
i'd like moving the page numbers in my index to the right, with a
\wordright.
\setupregister[index][n=1,alternative=A]
\starttext
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\LATEX\index{\LaTeX}
\page
\CONTEXT\index{\ConTeXt}
\page
\placeindex
\stoptext
The index is at page 4. I want to move the numbers "1,3" and "2" to the
right.
The parameter pagecommand is for the single page number, i want to put
a command (\wordright) around the whole block of page numbers.
How can i do that?
Greetings,
Massi
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Custom sorting of "pseudo-language" in a register
On 3/22/2018 9:25 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: John Grasty <johnpgra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 4:15 PM
Subject: [NTG-context] Custom sorting of "pseudo-language" in a register
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Hello all,
I’m just getting acquainted with ConTeXt, and I am finding it so much
more suitable for my work and needs. Thanks for the great software.
Here’s my situation. I write in Slovene and in English, and I need to
make numerous references to biblical passages. I want to create an
index of these citations, but I want them in the order they appear in
the Bible rather than alphabetical order. Henri Menke provided a
perfectly workable solution on TeX StackExchange[^1], but because this
is a multi-year project, I wanted to find a bit more permanent
solution. I discovered I can use Lua LPEG to parse and normalize my
citations so they are referenced in a uniform style.
My problem comes in the register sorting. Hans, I saw where in the
paste you have recommended a “pseudo-language” to implement a custom
sort in such a situation. I have almost figured out how to accomplish
this. (See the MWE below.) I have no problem with single word sections
(Genesis, Exodus, etc.). I can turn off indicators, do the custom sort
(see below), and I get the intended result. If I have a multiple word
title (Evangelij po Janezu), that technique doesn’t work. The
replacement for more than one word (or if a number is involved, like
1John) doesn’t seem to work. I have no doubt there is a good reason;
I’m just a newbie!
It seems my options are to:
1. Figure out how to do a replacement for a phrase or a book with a
number in its name. Then this technique seems to work ok.
2. Or to add an entries and figure out some way to not print the first
level in the index. So the indicator will be the book name, and
underneath the chapter and verses will be listed with out the book
name being repeated.
Are there any ideas to point me in the right direction?
You're bitten by the cleaner that kind of normalizes entries as you can
see when you say
\enabletrackers[*sort*]
replacing spaces by \0 can help but that sort of assumes that you know
what happens inside
So, i added some code to handle that. I also added a helper so that you
can do:
\startluacode
local list = {
-- old testament
"Genesis", "Exodus", "Leviticus", "Numbers", "Deuteronomy",
"Joshua",
"Judges", "Ruth", "1 Samuel", "2 Samuel", "1 Kings", "2 Kings",
"1 Chronicles", "2 Chronicles", "Ezra", "Nehemiah", "Esther",
"Job", "Psalms",
"Proverbs", "Ecclesiastes", "Canticles", "Isaiah", "Jeremiah",
"Lamentations", "Ezekiel", "Daniel", "Hosea", "Joel", "Amos",
"Obadiah",
"Jonah", "Micah", "Nahum", "Habakkuk", "Zephaniah", "Haggai",
"Zechariah",
"Malachi",
-- new testament
"Matthew", "Mark", "Luke", "John", "Acts", "Romans", "1
Corinthians",
"2 Corinthians", "Galatians", "Ephesians", "Philippians",
"Colossians",
"1 Thessalonians", "2 Thessalonians", "1 Timothy", "2 Timothy",
"Titus",
"Philemon", "Hebrews", "James", "1 Peter", "2 Peter", "1 John",
"2 John",
"3 John", "Jude", "Revelation",
}
sorters.definitions['bbt'] = {
replacements = sorters.replacementlist(list),
}
\stopluacode
\defineregister
[booksort]
[language=bbt,
n=1,
indicator=no]
\starttext
One \booksort{Genesis+5.2}
Two \booksort{Exodus+2}
Three \booksort{Genesis+45}
Four \booksort{Philemon+2}
Five \booksort{John+45}
Six \booksort{1 John 1+45}
Seven \booksort{2 John 2+45}
\blank[3*line]
\placeregister[booksort][language=bbt]
\stoptext
It probably makes sense to make this into a module but then we need to
collect a few lists.
I'll upload a beta.
Hans
Thanks so much for your help,
John Grasty
[1]:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/418575/custom-ordering-for-a-index-register-in-context/
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\startluacode
local utfchar, utfbyte = utf.char, utf.byte
local sorters = sorters
local definitions = sorters.definitions
local replacementoffset = sorters.constants.replacementoffset
local variables = interfaces.variabl
Re: [NTG-context] \completeindex and \setuparranging
survoje <mailto:surv...@free.fr>
19. März 2018 um 21:26
Bonsoir Wolfgang !
I tried according to your method (without arrangement and extra run)
without result, I tried others possibilities without result. The index
page is never ok with \setuparranging... Surely I did not understand.
I wanted to make a booklet of musical scores in A5 (24 pages), just
with successive png and index for each score :
\starttext
\externalfigure[Alaude][width=\textwidth]\index{Alaude}
\blank
\externalfigure[Amazing][width=\textwidth]\index{Amazing}
\externalfigure[Valse_5T][width=\textwidth]\index{Valse a 5 temps}
\blank
\externalfigure[Valse8Temps][width=\textwidth]\index{Valse à 8 temps}
\externalfigure[ValseEcossaise][width=\textwidth]\index{Valse écossaise}
\page
\setupregister[index]
[n=2,pagestyle=bold]
\completeindex
\stoptext
Your index doesn’t work because you have no paragraphs in your document.
When you
add \dontleavehmode before each \externalfigure the entries are correct.
\setupwhitespace[line]
\defineexternalfigure[score][width=\textwidth]
\starttext
\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[Alaude][score]\index{Alaude}
\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[Amazing][score]\index{Amazing}
\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[Valse_5T][score]\index{Valse a 5 temps}
\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[Valse8Temps][score]\index{Valse à 8 temps}
\dontleavehmode\externalfigure[ValseEcossaise][score]\index{Valse écossaise}
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \completeindex and \setuparranging
Bonsoir Wolfgang !
I tried according to your method (without arrangement and extra run)
without result, I tried others possibilities without result. The index
page is never ok with \setuparranging... Surely I did not understand.
I wanted to make a booklet of musical scores in A5 (24 pages), just with
successive png and index for each score :
\starttext
\externalfigure[Alaude][width=\textwidth]\index{Alaude}
\blank
\externalfigure[Amazing][width=\textwidth]\index{Amazing}
\externalfigure[Valse_5T][width=\textwidth]\index{Valse a 5 temps}
\blank
\externalfigure[Valse8Temps][width=\textwidth]\index{Valse à 8 temps}
\externalfigure[ValseEcossaise][width=\textwidth]\index{Valse écossaise}
\page
\setupregister[index]
[n=2,pagestyle=bold]
\completeindex
\stoptext
- Never mind ! I will do it in A4.
Thank you for your attention !
Gérard with help de "google translate" 8-)
Le 19/03/2018 à 12:00, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
Try to produce a document without arrangement and make an extra
run afterwards where you arrange the pages. You can use modes for this.
\startnotmode[arrange]
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\stopnotmode
\startmode[arrange]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2UP]
\stopmode
Process your document first with
context my_document.tex
and make an extra run at the end with
context --once --mode=arrange my_document.tex
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \completeindex and \setuparranging
Gerard <mailto:surv...@free.fr>
19. März 2018 um 11:22
Bonjour, Hi !
Pablo, ok for the remark ! I leave the previous subject and I open
mine because it's not solved
Le 18/03/2018 à 23:21, Gerard a écrit
Thank you Wolfgang for the solution :
context --arrange my_document.tex
I responded too quickly. Look at the two pictures attached :
- \placeindex does not mark the pages
- \completeindex only marks page 19 (the last page)
Your example doesn’t help because it doesn’t show the problem.
That's the context :
---
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2UP]
\setupregister[index][n=2,
pagestyle=bold]
\starttext
\externalfigure[Alaude][width=\textwidth]\index{Alaude}
\blank
\externalfigure[Andro][width=\textwidth]\index{Andro}
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext
-
and running by "context --arrange my_document.tex"
It's ok with :
-
\setuppapersize[A5]%[A4,landscape]
%\setuparranging[2UP]
-
Try to produce a document without arrangement and make an extra
run afterwards where you arrange the pages. You can use modes for this.
\startnotmode[arrange]
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\stopnotmode
\startmode[arrange]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2UP]
\stopmode
Process your document first with
context my_document.tex
and make an extra run at the end with
context --once --mode=arrange my_document.tex
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] \completeindex and \setuparranging
Bonjour, Hi !
Pablo, ok for the remark ! I leave the previous subject and I open mine
because it's not solved
Le 18/03/2018 à 23:21, Gerard a écrit
Thank you Wolfgang for the solution :
context --arrange my_document.tex
I responded too quickly. Look at the two pictures attached :
- \placeindex does not mark the pages
- \completeindex only marks page 19 (the last page)
That's the context :
---
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2UP]
\setupregister[index][n=2,
pagestyle=bold]
\starttext
\externalfigure[Alaude][width=\textwidth]\index{Alaude}
\blank
\externalfigure[Andro][width=\textwidth]\index{Andro}
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext
-
and running by "context --arrange my_document.tex"
It's ok with :
-
\setuppapersize[A5]%[A4,landscape]
%\setuparranging[2UP]
-
Thanks for the help.
Gérard... and thanks to "google translate" :)
Le 18/03/2018 à 20:32, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
survoje <mailto:surv...@free.fr>
18. März 2018 um 19:37
Bonjour,
\completeindex (or \placeindex) works in this case :
\setuppapersize[A5]%[A4,landscape]
%\setuparranging[2UP]
with %
but does not work in this case :
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2UP]
I do not understand where is my mistake !
You have to use the arrange option for the context command, e.g.
context --arrange my_document.tex
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Custom sorting of "pseudo-language" in a register
Hello all,
I’m just getting acquainted with ConTeXt, and I am finding it so much more
suitable for my work and needs. Thanks for the great software. Here’s my
situation. I write in Slovene and in English, and I need to make numerous
references to biblical passages. I want to create an index of these citations,
but I want them in the order they appear in the Bible rather than alphabetical
order. Henri Menke provided a perfectly workable solution on TeX
StackExchange[^1], but because this is a multi-year project, I wanted to find a
bit more permanent solution. I discovered I can use Lua LPEG to parse and
normalize my citations so they are referenced in a uniform style.
My problem comes in the register sorting. Hans, I saw where in the paste you
have recommended a “pseudo-language” to implement a custom sort in such a
situation. I have almost figured out how to accomplish this. (See the MWE
below.) I have no problem with single word sections (Genesis, Exodus, etc.). I
can turn off indicators, do the custom sort (see below), and I get the intended
result. If I have a multiple word title (Evangelij po Janezu), that technique
doesn’t work. The replacement for more than one word (or if a number is
involved, like 1John) doesn’t seem to work. I have no doubt there is a good
reason; I’m just a newbie!
It seems my options are to:
1. Figure out how to do a replacement for a phrase or a book with a number in
its name. Then this technique seems to work ok.
2. Or to add an entries and figure out some way to not print the first level in
the index. So the indicator will be the book name, and underneath the chapter
and verses will be listed with out the book name being repeated.
Are there any ideas to point me in the right direction?
Thanks so much for your help,
John Grasty
[1]:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/418575/custom-ordering-for-a-index-register-in-context/
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\startluacode
local utfchar, utfbyte = utf.char, utf.byte
local sorters = sorters
local definitions = sorters.definitions
local replacementoffset = sorters.constants.replacementoffset
local variables = interfaces.variables
local gen = utfchar(replacementoffset + 1), utfchar(replacementoffset + 11)
local exo = utfchar(replacementoffset + 2), utfchar(replacementoffset + 220)
local jn = utfchar(replacementoffset + 4), utfchar(replacementoffset + 27)
sorters.definitions['bbt'] = {
replacements = {
{ "Geneza", gen },
{ "Eksodus", exo },
{ "Janez", jn },
},
orders = {
gen, exo, jn
}
}
\stopluacode
\mainlanguage[sl]
\defineregister[booksort]
\setupregister[booksort]
[language=bbt,
n=1,
indicator=yes,
]
\starttext
\booksort{Janez+5.2}One
\booksort{Eksodus+2}Two
\booksort{Geneza+45}Three
\page
\placeregister[booksort][language=bbt]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] about \placeindex: uppercase initial and lowercase initial, two languages
On 01/28/2018 03:16 PM, Jeong Dal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To place the index at the end of the book, I put \placeindex before
> \stopproduct.
> It is compiled well.
> But, for the better output, I have two questions about the index.
>
> 1. In the output, it distinguished uppercase and lowercase initial.
> [...]
> Is there a way to make index combining the lowercase and the uppercase
> together as follows?
>
> s
> set
> simple statements
> …
> Squeeze theorem
Hi Jeong,
"method={zm, zc}" is your friend here:
\setupregister[method={zm, zc}]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=2em]
\index{Squeeze theorem}
\index{simple statements}
\index{set}
\index{sweat}
\placeindex
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
> 2. The index shows the English letters first and the Koren letters follows.
> Although it is OK that English words are shown first, is there a way
> to make Korean words are shown first since the main language is Korean?
I wonder whether two different indices would make sense here.
I guess register order is related to the position in any charset you
take. The ASCII characters come before any other range you select (not
only CJK, but Greek or Cyrillic).
Just in case it helps,
Pablo
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http://www.ousia.tk
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