Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-10 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: > Not sure why this would be different on QPC2v2 to the old QPC2, but > still. I did already fix that problem in QPC2, but QPC2v2 got a completely new PAR driver... ;-) > I hope Marcel or Tony will be able to integrate the modification to > SMSQE in time. It is integrated,

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones
>> GO to SBASIC, enter OPEN#3,PAR and you'll find that seems to flush out >> the printed output, if it's the same problem as I have with >> QPC2v2final. > >It wasnt, but thank you all the same. However, it is now fixed. Yet Im not >the wiser as to when or how that happened. Im not the sort of user

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-09 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes: > P Witte wrote: > > 10 a = 0 > > 20 OPEN#1;'con_0x0' > > 30 PAUSE#1; 200 > > it zaps QPC. > > Cannot reproduce that. OS? Memory settings? I did mention you had to EX it? The cut-of value is at 2x2; 1x1 and 0x0 both kill QPC2v2. M$ Windoze 2000 5.00.2195 AMD Athlon 700MHz

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-09 Thread P Witte
Peter Graf writes: > >Of course Im interested in a Q60, but I know very little about them, like: <> Thanks for all that, Peter. I hope there were many more interested readers out there. I shant sport with your collective patiences by replying to it all in detail ;) I should be happy to be kept po

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-09 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: > Exactly the same problem as I reported a week or so ago. > > GO to SBASIC, enter OPEN#3,PAR and you'll find that seems to flush out > the printed output, if it's the same problem as I have with > QPC2v2final. It wasnt, but thank you all the same. However, it is now fixed.

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-09 Thread Peter Graf
Per wrote: >Of course Im interested in a Q60, but I know very little about them, like: >cost, delivery, compatibility, reliability, how difficult is it to assemble >(special equipment required, etc), networking (can you network two+ of them >under Linux, for example?), upgradability (CPU, RAM), e

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote: > 10 a = 0 > 20 OPEN#1;'con_0x0' > 30 PAUSE#1; 200 > it zaps QPC. Cannot reproduce that. OS? Memory settings? Marcel

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote: > Help! I just discovered I cant print from QPC2v2! Please wait for QPCv2.02. Marcel

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Exactly the same problem as I reported a week or so ago. GO to SBASIC, enter OPEN#3,PAR and you'll find that seems to flush out the printed output, if it's the same problem as I have with QPC2v2final. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html >Help! I just discovered

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-08 Thread P Witte
More on my QPC2v2 setup: If I EX a program, such as the SB snippet below 10 a = 0 20 OPEN#1;'con_0x0' 30 PAUSE#1; 200 it zaps QPC. A call to WINDOW#ch; 0, 0, 0, 0 does the same. (Some bracketing clauses also appear to need to be there.) Looks like an SMSQ/E bug to me, but QPC shouldnt really cr

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 6 Feb 2001, at 22:40, Peter Graf wrote: > > BTW I have used the same case for a Q60. (Thanks to Keith.) Possible, but > it means a lot of tinkering since Tony Firshman has not yet developed a Q60 > Mini-Backplane ;-))) > Knowing Tony, it won't be long in coming Does that mean the Q60

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-07 Thread P Witte
Help! I just discovered I cant print from QPC2v2! The old version runs fine, but the new one doesnt talk to the printer (though it had a quick stab at the fax device (using the default setting)). Tried both the new Printer setting, then LPT1 (to which my Epson is connected) - no joy! As I said; th

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-07 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 at 02:07:57, Peter Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Tony wrote: > (In fact the small size of the MinisQL and a monitor switchbox meant I could have two in the space of one! although I mainly use the QPC2 system). >>> >>>BTW I have used the

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Peter Graf
Tony wrote: >>>(In fact the small size of the MinisQL and a >>>monitor switchbox meant I could have two in the space of one! although >>>I mainly use the QPC2 system). >> >>BTW I have used the same case for a Q60. (Thanks to Keith.) Possible, but >>it means a lot of tinkering since Tony Firshman

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Timothy Swenson
On Feb 7, 12:09am, P Witte wrote: > The problem with upgrading computers is disposing of the old ones humanely > (ie, with the least possible trouble to oneself ;). They do tend to take up > a lot of space, and operating with more than a couple of keyboards, half a > dozen rodents, and assorted mo

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 at 22:40:25, Peter Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Dilwyn wrote: > >>Same here really. While I'd love to buy a Q40 or Q60, space >>considerations, wife's considerations etc etc mean one computer space >>is all I'm allowed now. (In fact the small size

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: <> The problem with upgrading computers is disposing of the old ones humanely (ie, with the least possible trouble to oneself ;). They do tend to take up a lot of space, and operating with more than a couple of keyboards, half a dozen rodents, and assorted monitors (not to f

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 at 19:05:38, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >.uk> wrote: >(Ref: <00ed01c09076$7b5850e0$ad075cc3@default>) > >> >>>Yes, it is a great product ... so many people can benefit. I use the >>>QPC2 style of QL'

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Peter Graf
Dilwyn wrote: >Same here really. While I'd love to buy a Q40 or Q60, space >considerations, wife's considerations etc etc mean one computer space >is all I'm allowed now. (In fact the small size of the MinisQL and a >monitor switchbox meant I could have two in the space of one! although >I mainly

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Peter Graf
Roy Wood wrote: >The real problem that faces us is a lack of any really new software for >the QL in general and the longer that situation persists the more people >we will lose to other computers. Yes, this is the biggest problem. I didn't mention it directly, but I think good native hardware le

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 at 19:05:38, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk> wrote: (Ref: <00ed01c09076$7b5850e0$ad075cc3@default>) > >>Yes, it is a great product ... so many people can benefit. I use the >>QPC2 style of QL'ing now more than I do 'black box' or derivatives >way. >>Although I often have

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-06 Thread Dilwyn Jones
>Yes, it is a great product ... so many people can benefit. I use the >QPC2 style of QL'ing now more than I do 'black box' or derivatives way. >Although I often have both running at the same time. I'm lucky enough >to have a small room stuffed full of gear ! > >>As for Q40/Q60 - I'd love one, b

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread P Witte
Peter Graf writes: > Hm. If it smells like Bill Gate's feet, tastes a little like Pentium > silicon and sometimes looks like coffee, I have my doubts that it is tea. > (just joking) > > Look at it this way: If a Windows PC is a QL, then a Sun workstation is an > Amiga, an AIX server is a gameboy,

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Q Branch
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I have also enjoyed the thread. However, is there any news, yet, of >Text87 in full colour? That would fill my cup completely. I have been negotiating with Fred Toussi about this and he needs TT to write a section of code (d

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel wrote: >Anyway, let's call it a /QL compatible/ platform of it's own. How about/SMSQ only/ platform of it's MS Windows? :-) Still think interfaces that nobody can access don't make a platform. But surrounded by SMSQ-on-Windows users it looks like I must give up :-) Peter

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcel Kilgus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: >> 0100,0100,0100 > >Erm, Wolfgang... ;-) > >>> QDOS. I can run a different operating system on it, not only QDOS. The >>> interfaces to the hardware are defined and accessible. >> All right, then QPC

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> QPC2v2 is a great product, it just a pity that it is now mainly us more >'expert' QL users that are left to use it. > >I agree, but I'm not that much of an expert - so I just use it in the manner >of a QL, to do what I

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Peter Graf
Tony Firshman wrote: >Do you get initial screen blanking, and then >nothing (I wish TT did a splash screen!). Or better: A progress indicator while starting up. You probably miss the old QL way of a screen memory test you can *watch* :-) >Describe exactly, because, like the QL, the various fau

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Peter Fox
Original Message from Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:17:25 + > In article <001c01c08eac$6dc1a420$f4075cc3@default>, Dilwyn Jones > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >This is specific to QPC2v2final, the old QPC2 and QPC1 on the same PC > >and none of my other systems do t

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > 0100,0100,0100 Erm, Wolfgang... ;-) >> QDOS. I can run a different operating system on it, not only QDOS. The >> interfaces to the hardware are defined and accessible. > All right, then QPC must be a platform as well, because you could > adopt another OS for it, too. (I

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Urs König
> Although the 'QPC2v2 again' thread is getting a bit long, the > discussion has been very interesting and shows that we need both an > emulator and a native hardware way forward. The emulator scene is very > well served at the moment. Let's hope that the future of > Q40/Goldfire/any other SGC suc

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 4 Feb 2001, at 10:36, Peter Graf wrote: > Of course the QL is a platform. It is not true that the QL is restricted to > QDOS. I can run a different operating system on it, not only QDOS. The > interfaces to the hardware are defined and accessible. All right, then QPC must be a platform as wel

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-05 Thread Norman Dunbar
>> QPC2v2 is a great product, it just a pity that it is now mainly us more 'expert' QL users that are left to use it. I agree, but I'm not that much of an expert - so I just use it in the manner of a QL, to do what I want to do. >> Many of those who have abandoned the QL OS for the pleasures

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <001c01c08eac$6dc1a420$f4075cc3@default>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >This is specific to QPC2v2final, the old QPC2 and QPC1 on the same PC >and none of my other systems do this. I could understand it if it was >a FLUSH requirement (the old Falkenberg hard disk system had

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 03:50 ðì 4/2/2001, you wrote: >On 3 Feb 2001, at 16:15, Peter Graf wrote: > > > I wasn't talking about what QPC *could* do if it was *changed*. You called > > QPC a platform all by itself, and I think it is not. Because IIRC the only > > thing that can be run are <=68008 coded SMSQ/E applicatio

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-04 Thread Dilwyn Jones
>> to work. Sadly I was wrong, printing will still stop after say after >> half a page of graphics or a couple of pages of text. The interesting >> thing is: if I go to SBASIC and just enter the command OPEN#3,PAR it's >> enough to make printing resume and finish! I am completely unable to >> pred

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-04 Thread Peter Graf
Wolfgang wrote: >> I wasn't talking about what QPC *could* do if it was *changed*. You called >> QPC a platform all by itself, and I think it is not. Because IIRC the only >> thing that can be run are <=68008 coded SMSQ/E applications. > >Right, then QL, then, isn't a platform, either, because al

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-04 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 3 Feb 2001, at 16:15, Peter Graf wrote: > I wasn't talking about what QPC *could* do if it was *changed*. You called > QPC a platform all by itself, and I think it is not. Because IIRC the only > thing that can be run are <=68008 coded SMSQ/E applications. Right, then QL, then, isn't a platf

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: <> > to work. Sadly I was wrong, printing will still stop after say after > half a page of graphics or a couple of pages of text. The interesting > thing is: if I go to SBASIC and just enter the command OPEN#3,PAR it's > enough to make printing resume and finish! I am complete

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 at 17:23:34, Peter Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Bill wrote: > >>Presently I run a Q40 and a PC sharing a Sony monitor and epson printer >>, no switchboxs required, the monitor has two inputs and its own switch >>for selection, the printer runs on

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 at 18:00:43, Bill Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >Well now, I recall when I installed the i/o card there was a problem ( >turned out to be not connecting to motherboard) and I checked all the >jumpers, are there not about forty of them? Yes- that i

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Bill Waugh
Peter Graf wrote: > > Wolfgang wrote: > > > >> I think it is native hardware that keeps a system alive. A system that > >> mostly depends on emulation is dead. > >> > >No. Maybe the Ql is not dead enough (:-{ There is a movement about called Retro, people are looking for something that is mis

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Bill Waugh
Peter Graf wrote: > > Bill wrote: > > >Presently I run a Q40 and a PC sharing a Sony monitor and epson printer > >, no switchboxs required, the monitor has two inputs and its own switch > >for selection, the printer runs on USB from the PC and Parallel from the > >Q40 > > Very good idea. > > >

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Peter Graf
Wolfgang wrote: >QPC presumes (and rightly so) that you have a running >and functioning Windows machine. Exactly. That is IMHO one of the reasons why a Windows PC is not a QL system. On a QL/Q40 I don't have to fight with Windows problems to keep my QL/Q40 from crashing. >I don't know about

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel wrote: >> Why can't you accept the fact, that QPC is just a software emulator, >> emulating one single OS? > >Sure, it is. It's designed for that. But the only direct link between >QPC and SMSQ/E is the way the configuration works, because it is read >out of the SMSQ/E file. Still QPC and

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Peter Graf
Wolfgang wrote: >> The size of problems depends not only on development itself. >> >> After I developed a program, I need a stack of disks or some Webspace. >> But what after I developed a mainboard? >> >> See the difference? Dealing with the production+service issue might have >> cost me more

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Peter Graf
Bill wrote: >Presently I run a Q40 and a PC sharing a Sony monitor and epson printer >, no switchboxs required, the monitor has two inputs and its own switch >for selection, the printer runs on USB from the PC and Parallel from the >Q40 Very good idea. >only one proviso the printer must be off

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Peter Graf wrote: > I wasn't talking about what QPC *could* do if it was *changed*. No, QPC can stay the same for this task. > Why can't you accept the fact, that QPC is just a software emulator, > emulating one single OS? Sure, it is. It's designed for that. But the only direct link between Q

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 2 Feb 2001, at 9:37, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > On 2 Feb 2001, at 8:21, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > > > > It could also have been a contradiction in terms, especially if I said > > 'working PC' !! > Well yes, but nobody would have believed it, anyway > > Wolfgang >

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 3 Feb 2001, at 2:05, Peter Graf wrote: > > No, I don't think that graphic driver problems are rare. But graphics drivers with QPC are - and that's what was being discussed. QPC presumes (and rightly so) that you have a running and functioning Windows machine. > IIRC QPC has not. For exam

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 3 Feb 2001, at 2:06, Peter Graf wrote: > > There are, and I know several. For obvious reasons they are on this list. NOT on the list, you mean. > But who says that you must give up your PC if you want the speed of a Q40 > or Q60. There are keyboard/mouse/screen switch boxes to help switching >

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 3 Feb 2001, at 2:08, Peter Graf wrote: > The size of problems depends not only on development itself. > > After I developed a program, I need a stack of disks or some Webspace. > But what after I developed a mainboard? > > See the difference? Dealing with the production+service issue might

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Bill Waugh
Phoebus Dokos wrote: snip only one proviso the printer must be off when you switch on the Q40 > >else the Q40 will not boot properly ( why?) > >This is not a problem I just bring power to the Q40 and from Q40 to PC > >so Q40 has to be fired up first or nothing works. > > Most probably a power

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 10:11 ðì 3/2/2001, you wrote: >Peter Graf wrote: > > > But who says that you must give up your PC if you want the speed of a Q40 > > or Q60. There are keyboard/mouse/screen switch boxes to help switching > > between a real QL and a real PC. Many people have more than one computer. > > > > Peter

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread John Hitchcock
Peter has said - >Look at it this way: If a Windows PC is a QL, then a Sun workstation is an Amiga, an AIX server is a gameboy, and a Macistosh is a Windows PC. Software is Hardware, emulation is native, and everything is everything.> I've contributed absolutely nowt to this fascinating thread -

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread John Hitchcock
Phoebus said - >Nuff said (as my American Friends say)> When I worked for Castrol (Ellesmere Port, UK) there was at the end of one expansive production floor a giant space-heater. Her name was "Fairy Nuff". I know this because it was chalked on her, in large letters, just above her ample and ro

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Bill Waugh
Peter Graf wrote: > But who says that you must give up your PC if you want the speed of a Q40 > or Q60. There are keyboard/mouse/screen switch boxes to help switching > between a real QL and a real PC. Many people have more than one computer. > > Peter Presently I run a Q40 and a PC sharing a

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel wrote: >> QPC can't do that. For examle it can not run QDOS. > >QDOS had to be adapted to run on the Q40, the same as SMSQ/E was. I >could adapt QDOS classic to run on QPC. I wasn't talking about what QPC *could* do if it was *changed*. You called QPC a platform all by itself, and I thin

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Peter Graf wrote: > QPC can't do that. For examle it can not run QDOS. QDOS had to be adapted to run on the Q40, the same as SMSQ/E was. I could adapt QDOS classic to run on QPC. Instead of writing to some hardware ports for opening a serial port, one does a "dc.w qpc.sopen". Not a big differenc

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Peter Graf wrote: >>QPC does have all that, too. Isn't that amazing? > IIRC QPC has not. For example try an old program that directly accesses the > QL screen. Does work if you actually are in 512x256 mode. > Yes, but there was also another effect. My impression is that QPC supported > the tran

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 03:13 ìì 2/2/2001, you wrote: >Don't denigrate people who don't buy new software and hardware. We can still >learn from them, if only to discover why they don't. With a bit of luck we >may learn what to produce to start them buying again. Last year a black >box/gold card QDOS user upgraded

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel wrote: >> There are a lot of reasons why a M$ Windows PC is not a QL system. One of >> them you have given yourself: It would have to behave like a QL! When I >> need minutes to boot the machine and my emulator crashes because of a >> Windows graphic driver problem I really don't have the

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Peter Graf
Wolfgang wrote: >Well, I'd say that a hardware developper has hardware problems, >and a software developper has software problems... I don't think >that developping either QPC or the Q40 was a mean feat! The size of problems depends not only on development itself. After I developed a program,

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel wrote: >> For me a Windows PC is never a QL system!!! > >Point of view. I see it this way: if it smells like tea, tastes like >tea and looks like tea, it probably is tea. Hm. If it smells like Bill Gate's feet, tastes a little like Pentium silicon and sometimes looks like coffee, I have m

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Peter Graf
Marcel wrote: >Of course not. QPC is a platform all by itself. It does not need to >imitate anything. IMHO QPC is a good software emulator, but not a platform by itself. If it was a platform, you could run an operating system on it! QPC can't do that. For examle it can not run QDOS. Or any othe

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Peter Graf
Wolfgang wrote: >> It was just an example. Lets say I want to use MAC software. Under Q60 >> Linux it can run native and fast (because of the 68060), but on PC Linux I >> need to emulate a MACs CPU so I lose 95% of the speed. > >A rather bad example, because I could say the same for PC >programs

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Geoff Wicks
- Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again "Hehe, the reason was your really useful work software. (It is not useful to me as my needs do not include english (and thesaurus or spell checking algorithms are generally unu

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Norman Dunbar wrote: >>> I then got a huge black hole on the screen for my troubles, which >swallowed >>> my mouse any time it ventured near it. More or less same phenomenon >whether >>> QL- or full-colour modes used. > >AHA - I get this when my screen saver has been running and I then kick it >ou

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Geoff Wicks
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again > On 1 Feb 2001, at 20:06, Geoff Wicks wrote: > > > > The point I wanted to make is that we are a "Broad Church" in the QL > > Community. That is,

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Claude Mourier 00
Personaly I think QPC2 and Q40 are both importants. But considering the lack of production, QPC2 is nowaday the only way to upgrade your QL (and have access to GD2). And it is a good product that gives us the opportunity to have SMS evrywhere with only a HD disk (and a CD if you need applications)

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
URL:http://www.LynxFinancialSystems.com -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:36 PM To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote: > QPC2: > CreatSurface(GetDesktopMode) failed > Error code: (and this I found particularly rude:) 887600e1. Well, unfortunately there is no function which translates error codes into readable text. And there are hundreds of them. 887600e1 is a DirectDraw err

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > I'm not so sure. If the users show enthusiasm, the software > developers may do more. I think that Marcel wouldn't have done > QPC2 if he hadn't had much feedback from all concerned. Let's say it this way: the original plan was to release QPC1 v1.00 and then go on to so

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: P Witte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again >> I then got a huge black hole on the screen for my troubles, which swallowed >> my mouse any time it vent

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:45 PM To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again >> Normally you don't notice the difference. When the priority is >> set to "lowest", the emulation

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 2 Feb 2001, at 8:21, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > It could also have been a contradiction in terms, especially if I said > 'working PC' !! Well yes, but nobody would have believed it, anyway Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 1 Feb 2001, at 5:41, Phoebus Dokos wrote: > Indeed we are a Broad Church (and thank you for bringing back the old > meaning of Church) nevertheless, IMHO people that do not need new software > or hardware do not contribute at all in the evolution of our platform. > Change is a product of i

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 1 Feb 2001, at 21:04, Peter Graf wrote: > Wolfgang wrote: > > There are a lot of reasons why a M$ Windows PC is not a QL system. One of > them you have given yourself: It would have to behave like a QL! When I > need minutes to boot the machine and my emulator crashes because of a > Windows

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 1 Feb 2001, at 20:06, Geoff Wicks wrote: > The point I wanted to make is that we are a "Broad Church" in the QL > Community. That is, we embrace a wide range of people and opinions. To > survive we have to have a high degree of tolerance. We need both QPC and the > Q40 as well as those peopl

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:10 PM To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again >> A source level debugger is the least I expect nowadays. Oooh, yes please !!!

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Wolfgang Lenerz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again >> "work PC" - Isn't that an oxymoron (or a simple moron???) :o) :o) :o) It could also have be

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 04:52 ìì 1/2/2001, you wrote: >QPC does have all that, too. Isn't that amazing? > Well I don't really know what you meant here Marcel but if you think any of us is "attacking" or "blaming" your work, well I don't think that this is the case. It is well established and I believe nobody here

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread P Witte
re: > > .. The windowing > > facility is not one I'll use much (it also crashes on my machine > > when changing between windowed and full-screen). > > Hmm, that's not really supposed to happen. What graphics card do you > use? Latest drivers? Complete crash or just

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 03:06 ìì 1/2/2001, you wrote: >- Original Message - >From: Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again > >Hehe I kind of anticipated this email Geoff (although I don't know you >personally I do admire your work). >It

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Peter Graf wrote: > There are a lot of reasons why a M$ Windows PC is not a QL system. One of > them you have given yourself: It would have to behave like a QL! When I > need minutes to boot the machine and my emulator crashes because of a > Windows graphic driver problem I really don't have the

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Norman Dunbar wrote: > On my (work) NT box, an 'idle' QPC session uses 98% of the processor time - > at least that's what task mangler tells me. Yes, it just does use all processor time that's available. > This is what makes the Windows portion of my QL :o) sluggish. Really? Normally you don't

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Phoebus Dokos wrote: > Emulators are supposed to completely "simulate" the native hardware. That's your definition. > However QPC doesn't do that with the latest QL hardware (which is > the Q40). Of course not. QPC is a platform all by itself. It does not need to imitate anything. > My belief

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Peter Graf wrote: > For me a Windows PC is never a QL system!!! Point of view. I see it this way: if it smells like tea, tastes like tea and looks like tea, it probably is tea. >>The mentioned PC runs Linux with 100 times (or >>whatever) the speed. > I have a 300 MHz PC where I think factor 5 i

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Phoebus Dokos
I also want to mention another aspect of Emulation as well. Emulators are supposed to completely "simulate" the native hardware. However QPC doesn't do that with the latest QL hardware (which is the Q40). In this aspect we are driven towards a complete separation. My belief is that QPC should com

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Geoff Wicks
- Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again Hehe I kind of anticipated this email Geoff (although I don't know you personally I do admire your work). It wasn't directed to you directly but yours was the first name to

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Peter Graf
Wolfgang wrote: >I disagree. If it runs Ql software, looks like a QL (on the monitor) >and baves like one, then it is a QL. Never mind whether it is an >elulator or a Q40 (or a "real" Ql, for that matter). There are a lot of reasons why a M$ Windows PC is not a QL system. One of them you have

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 31 Jan 2001, at 16:41, Marcel Kilgus wrote: > It also crashes more easily, like "JMON 0" crashes straight out back > > into Windoze. > > Couldn't say so. Works just fine. Same here : no problem! Wolfgang Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 31 Jan 2001, at 23:24, Peter Graf wrote: > Yes with QPC+PC (+ necessarily M$ Windows!) you get a PC! But when you say > "also" a PC you imply that you get a QL system when you buy such a PC. > > I feel that real QL style hardware users seem to become a minority on this > list, but at this po

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 1 Feb 2001, at 8:37, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > Hey, it's only a work PC after all !! - "work PC" - Isn't that an oxymoron (or a simple moron???) Wolfgang

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Norman Dunbar
Per, >> Ok, so its probably a local issue. I can use eg JMON 24 to debug another >> job, but it crashes in the same way as JMON 0 soon as it hits a breakpoint. Makes >> finding out whats going on rather awkward :( I'm ok with JMON 0 or JMON 12 and breakpoints work fine - I was doing some breakpoi

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Norman Dunbar
Per Witte wrote : >> When Windoze is running, QPC just about stops whatever it is doing. With QPC >> in the background, my Windoze pointer behaves strangely (sluggish, >> disappears intermittently,..) in some programs. Changing the fore- and >> background settings in the startup menu does not pro

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread P Witte
Norman Dunbar writes: > I've had QPC2v2 for a few days now and I am not having problems when I do a > JMON 0 as you are. Ok, so its probably a local issue. I can use eg JMON 24 to debug another job, but it crashes in the same way as JMON 0 soon as it hits a breakpoint. Makes finding out whats go

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes: > > up our own file system's much-lamented inadequacy. The windowing > > facility is not one I'll use much (it also crashes on my machine > > when changing between windowed and full-screen). > > Hmm, that's not really supposed to happen. What graphics card do you > use? Late

RE: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-02-01 Thread Norman Dunbar
Thanks for pointing that out Marcel, in that case, I have the following : Config = QPC Configuration v2 final Taskbar = QPC II v2 Final QPC_VER$ = 2.00 I have discovered a small (?) problem as follows : QPC running on an Compaq 400 Mhz 128M memory running NT 4. QPC configured for window mode. W

Re: [ql-users] QPC2v2 again

2001-01-31 Thread Phoebus Dokos
At 03:19 ìì 31/1/2001, you wrote: >Phoebus Dokos wrote: > > Correct but then again, buying a PC doesn't mean you get a name brand (with > > bundled softare you are right). > > Many people (including myself) want to buy things that will accomodate > > their needs. > >Me too. But most people buy com

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