Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Camara Family
Aloha Andrew, I am also researching Camara family, but the farthest Is to my great great grandfather Bernardo de Camara born around November 1852, his wife Maria Ludovina de Jesus born around 1851. Haven't done much in the last two years and all I know they are from Sao Miguel. I don't know exactly where they were born. Gail Elizares Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2015, at 6:55 PM, drewca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my name is Andrew Camara and I'm researching my family tree. My family is originally from Santa Barbara das Ribeiras.,Pico, Azores. I have 1437 individuals on my family tree tracing back to Francisco Pereira Camara, b. 28 Jan 1761. d. 25 Jan 1833. Married Perpetua Rosa 12 Jan 1783. I'm have some information on their children and their children but only a name, birth date or death date. Is there a source for information in English? Is there anyone else in this group that is researching the Camara surname on this site? Any help would be appreciated greatly, Andrew. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaiian Marriages
Aloha Eric, What island and what district they were in? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Gomes Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:24 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaiian Marriages Hi group, I have been thinking about my great great grandparents lately. They are Manuel Rodrigues and Isabel Marie ???. They are my grandmother's paternal grandparents. From what I can gather, both were born in the Azores (not sure where yet.) However, there was an age gap of 14 to 16 years between them. He was born in 1854 and she was born in 1870 - 1872. According to the 1920 census, he immigrated to Hawaii in 1874 and she in 1890. Unfortunately, the census takers made an error here because according to the 1900 Census when they were living in Hawaii, their oldest son was born in Hawaii in 1886. My great-grandfather, Joaquin Rodrigues was born on the Big Island on December 1, 1897. I do not know her maiden name and my grandmother cannot remember it. She is now 87 years old. I have also tried to locate both of them on the passenger lists on LUSAWEB.com without success. I presume they were married in Hawaii. I am wondering if there is a resource for church records on the islands? In some of the census's, it says that she was Naturalized. I am going to check to see if she is in the databases at the local court house the next time I am over there. Just wanted to bounce this off the group and see if anyone else has any ideas. The family moved to California by the 1910 Census. Any thoughts will help. Thanks Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA -- Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA Surnames: Gomes, Smith, Townsend, Lopes, Cabral, Erwin, Kennedy, Rodman, Rodrigues, and many more. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: FTDNA Conference - suggestions and stuff
yes to both Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, rml...@gmail.com rml...@gmail.com wrote: Yes to both. On Monday, October 7, 2013 5:49:54 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: OK, better start a separate thread for this even if the conference is 5 weeks away. I'll take people's suggestions to the conference. So far I have: 1) Population Finder bar under the Family Finder matches (opt in button) 2) Diacritics support on the Gedcoms So, if you want 1 2, go ahead and say so. Then I can come armed saying I have 25 people wanting these features! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart
Cheri, We have that in my family, my dad and his brother married two sisters. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 5:59 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double First Cousins chart OK, I think I came up with an idea to illustrate double first cousins. I think the people that I used are fairly famous worldwide. If you think of you and your first cousin, you are first cousins because you share Grandma and Grandpa ___ in common. Double first cousins share BOTH sets of grandparents in common. You get a brother and sister from one family marrying the sister and brother from the other family. I've use Desi Arnaz Lucille Ball for one family and John F. Kennedy and Jackie Bouvier Onassis as the other family. Their kids marry each other and we'll pretend they have you and me. Change my gender to suit your needs on the attached chart. (PDF - I think most people can view this). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA batch 523 is in!
This year alone I have 19 more matches, a lot more work ahead for me.LOL Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elisabeth Costa Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA batch 523 is in! No new matches for me either! That's okay I'm still sorting through the initial matches. Elisabeth Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Mary Bordi busybo...@gmail.com wrote: Oh silly me! There was one new Family Finder Azores group match for my mom. No family tree but there is one name listed that rings a bell! Off to look at my tree! On Monday, August 12, 2013, Mary Bordi wrote: Thanks for the notification. But no new Azores matches for me or for my mom. Maybe next time! Mary On Monday, August 12, 2013, Cheri Mello wrote: We had about 13 Family Finder (FF) tests come in this morning! The notifications go out at 8pm Central Time. However, all of us who have tested can log in and see if we match to anyone whose results came in today. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S.
To Fred, You're not the only one having problems on the Souzas' side, I am too. I'm just waiting for George Pacheco when he is able to, to help me find where my great grandparents came from. All I know is San Miguel nothing else. And thank you Cheri for all you do! Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:05 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S. Repost for Fred Souza, fsouza31 at comcast.net Cheri, Thanks so much for clarifying how this works. I don't have any connection to a genealogy program yet, but I regularly read the correspondence from within the group, and this was the first time I had seen SOUSA mentioned, so I wanted to look at what he had just in case it gave some hints to my family. My only surviving uncle (born in the US) seems to think there was a dramatic name change so that our last name shouldn't even be Souza, (and I have some feeling that he may be right since my dad had issues when he retired because of the name he thinks is the right one being on his birth certificate). Of course, this makes finding any information really complicated. On the other side it is even more complicated because there maternal surname issue and there being a lack of any family to contact creates another dead end. At this point I will be satisfied to just get back to the information from the original immigrants, and leave it up to my kids and cousins to go from there. Thanks, Frederick Souza 19 Owen Drive Stonington, CT 06378-1012 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S.
Aloha Cheri, Sorry Cheri my misspelling it should be Sao Miguel in the Azores. I did find quite a bit more info since I posted my tree. Just need to find the time to put it in. My biggest set back on the Souza side is I can't find him in any of the ship lists nor my great grandmother. This is where I'm hoping that George is going to be able to help me. I'm not sure where we connect but I do have a feeling it is through the Barboza or Barbosa side. That would be my mother's grandmother. If that is our link, just to let you know I do have a family pic with her and her husband and all the children. I'll keep on trudging... Thanks, Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:40 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S. Gail E, You tested your DNA, so you know more than you think. Don't know which one of your lines yet, but your DNA is dancing around a group of us with Vila Franca ancestry. So at least one of your lines comes from there. P.S. You may want to double check your genealogy program to be sure you have the island as Sao Miguel. San Miguel island is one of the Channel Islands off the coast of California. Someone searching the archive/web board/forum may not be able to find your post as they would be looking for Sao Miguel island, one of the Azores. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S.
Cheri, Looking into my notes she was born in Sao Miguel, Azores, around 1872 and died in Paauilo, Hi 1943. Her dad was Jose Freitas Silva born Aug 05, 1884, (I don't know where) and died October 22, 1908 probably in Paauilo because he is buried at Kukaiau County Cemetery next to Paauilo. I don't have anything on her mother.Her husband Francisco da Luz came from Madeira. It seems she came over around 1882 to Hawaii. From my notes that I got from a family member it seems she had 3 brothers Manuel, Marion, and Antone, two sisters Evelyn and Dolores. It seems Antone, Evelyn and Dolores carried the Barboza name. Gosh Portuguese carries too many names, LOL. Through the DNA it does seem we have a closer connection right? I'm just curious to see where the connection is. I'm still kind of tied up now but hopefully I can spend a lot more time researching and getting more organized in a couple of months. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:30 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S. Gail E, I looked at your Gedcom through FTDNA and I don't know if the info is missing on your end or the system ate it. The Barboza that is your mom's grandma is Maria Silva Barboza b. 1872 (no place stated) and d. 1948 (no place stated). I looked at Maria's hubby, Francisco A. da Luz, and it also gives birth and death years but no places. Mine were Mello Barbozas. He took that name from his grandma. My Barbozas are in Vila Franca (to Ponta Garca), but it's in the early 1700s. We're off almost 150 years. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S.
Sorry about that Cheri, I was looking at the wrong line. The actual name is John DeSilva Barboza born 06/22/1847 and died 01/11/1931. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:54 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Souza anywhere in the U.S. Hi Gail, Yeah, I'll wait for you to get organized more. Maria was born in 1872 and her dad was born in 1884! Well, that doesn't work :) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group
Thanks Cheri, My understanding my grandparents Deluz who married Barboza is from Madeira, so I thought I would also join the group. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:22 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group Gail E, Log into your FTDNA account with the kit number and password. Across the top is a navy blue or blackish navigation barHome, My Account, Projects. Point at Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click on Join. If Madeira is not one of the suggestions, just type Madeira in the Search By Surname box. Joining projects is free on FTDNA. I am the temporary admin of the Madeira project as well. Cheri Mello FTDNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295 - Release Date: 05/03/13 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295 - Release Date: 05/03/13 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group
Cheri, One more question, how would I know if I match anyone in the Madeira groug? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:22 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group Gail E, Log into your FTDNA account with the kit number and password. Across the top is a navy blue or blackish navigation barHome, My Account, Projects. Point at Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click on Join. If Madeira is not one of the suggestions, just type Madeira in the Search By Surname box. Joining projects is free on FTDNA. I am the temporary admin of the Madeira project as well. Cheri Mello FTDNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295 - Release Date: 05/03/13 _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6295 - Release Date: 05/03/13 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group
Thanks Cheri, I have a lot more info to enter in, but the time do it is a little constraint. I'm hoping this summer I can update and get a more solid background. Hopefully we can find our common ancestor. So far with all my ancestors I don't know what part they came from except San Miguel. Hopefully as I dig deeper this summer I can find something. Thanks again for your help, Gail E From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 6:11 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group Gail E, I don't believe what group your match is from is of too much importance. If you match my dad (and you do), you really don't care what project he's in. You want to look at his Gedcom and look for the common ancestor. But if you really want to know, go to your Matches and click on his name. It says his Projects. But my dad is misleading. I've got him in a couple of extra projects so other admins can see what I do with his page. You'll have much more success with DNA matches once you get more paper trail done. I see you've got all your great-grandparents. Now you need their freguesias Pick a line and work that back. Take down your current Gedcom and upload the one with your new work. Then pick another line and work that line back. Replace that Gedcom. As you work with the freguesias, you can check and see if you are in the same freguesias as your matches. Then you will have a way to work towards making a paper trail connection with your matches. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] More than one group
I took a DNA test under the Azores group, would I have to pay for another to be a part of Madeira group. I do have some family also from the Madeira group. Gail E. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My turn for a trip...
Portuguese Genealogical Historical Society of Hawaii 810 North Vineyard Blvd., Rm. 11 Honolulu, HI 96817 There is Doris who is the president, I believe Dan and George. All beautiful people that I had the pleasure to meet when I went to Oahu. (I'm from the big island) Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:15 AM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My turn for a trip... There is a Portuguese Hawaiian History Center in downtown Oahu. Others may know the exact location. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Eric Gomes gomes.ances...@gmail.com wrote: I am headed West next week and will be headed to the Islands for the week. I will be on Oahu beginning this Saturday. Unfortunately, I can't get to Maui or Hawaii. I am hoping that I can fit some time in for records research. We will be staying in the hills above Honolulu. Is there somewhere I can go to do some research relatively local to Honolulu? Thanks in advance. Eric. -- Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA Surnames: Gomes, Smith, Townsend, Lopes, Cabral, Erwin, Kennedy, Rodman, Rodrigues, and many more. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Thanks!
I just want to say thank you very much. E I believe you were the one who gave me a date of a possible Mary Dias that died on May 1, 1933. Well I went on ancestry on that possible date which took me to find a grave. She is buried at St. Mary's. I called them and they didn't have much info so I ordered the death certificate and it is my Aunty and Uncle that I was looking for. I don't know why when I tried to order the death certificate within that year, they said they couldn't come up with that name. Maybe I should get a refund, LOL. Anyway they buried under the name Mary S. and Jose S. Deas, but the death certificate says Dias. Again thank you for solving another mystery for me! Gail E. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil
Caetano was supposedly his first name. It has been a difficult journey since the names keep changing. I still have to find 3 brothers yet from my grandfather. I know two of them for sure were in Alameda County, the family thinks they never got married so hopefully it will easier to find. The only info I have on the third is, his last child that I know of was born on Oahu. I don't know if he died there or moved on to California like the rest of them. Hopefully by the end of the year I can find the rest of the family. Gail E. Researching DeLuz, DeSouza, DaCamara, Oliveira Branco, Barboza, Amaral, Fereira -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rondo ranch Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 7:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil I have Souza Man marrying a Caetano woman. They lived in the Hanford, CA area. D -Original Message- From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com Sent: Mar 18, 2013 10:57 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil My gg-grandfather was Jose de Souza who married Maria Ignacio, my g-grandfather had several names so I don't know which is correct, it was either Quitao, Caetano, and his buried name Keaton de Souza who married Maria Fereira. Thanks, Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GENEVA Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:17 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil They are common names in many parts of portugal. If you have the first names I do have some information that might be helpful to you. - Original Message - Hi Geneva, My family name includes de Souza and Dias but I still haven't been able to find what part of Sao Miguel they came from. Gail E. -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ggervais1...@centurylink.net Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:46 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil Hi: Is anyone researching the Cabral family from Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, which includes surnames of Dias, Pereira, da costa, de Sousa, Soares, Raposo, Jose, Moniz, Cabeceiras, Francisca, Pimentel, Quarsma, de Arruda, Rodrigues, Matos, Teixeira, benevides, Martins, Tavares. Thanks Geneva Cook-Gervais -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil
My gg-grandfather was Jose de Souza who married Maria Ignacio, my g-grandfather had several names so I don't know which is correct, it was either Quitao, Caetano, and his buried name Keaton de Souza who married Maria Fereira. Thanks, Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GENEVA Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:17 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil They are common names in many parts of portugal. If you have the first names I do have some information that might be helpful to you. - Original Message - Hi Geneva, My family name includes de Souza and Dias but I still haven't been able to find what part of Sao Miguel they came from. Gail E. -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ggervais1...@centurylink.net Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:46 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Famil Hi: Is anyone researching the Cabral family from Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, which includes surnames of Dias, Pereira, da costa, de Sousa, Soares, Raposo, Jose, Moniz, Cabeceiras, Francisca, Pimentel, Quarsma, de Arruda, Rodrigues, Matos, Teixeira, benevides, Martins, Tavares. Thanks Geneva Cook-Gervais -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Mary Dias
Eric, I couldn't find anything in the Oakland Tribune but I was able to find a Mary S. Deas and Joseph S. Deas buried at St. Mary's where her dad is buried. It is not the first time the name was miss spelt. The birth also coincides with what is on the grave. I will call on Monday to find out who made the arrangements. It would probably be Joseph or Mary Correia. Thanks for the help. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:47 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Mary Dias Gail, The California death index at Vitalsearch 1930-1939 shows a Mary S Dias spouses initial JS, died 5-1-1933 in Alameda County. She was 50 years old. Check the Oakland Tribune for the Obit Eric Edgar On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Aloha to all, I need some advice on how to proceed. Mary Dias is my grandfather's sister and I have been trying to find out where there are buried but right now I've hit a road block. Mary (deSouza) Dias was born around 1883, in Wainaku HI and married Joseph Dias who was born around 1874 in Portugal. The last known census I found them in was in 1930 in Brooklyn Township in Alameda County California. They had a daughter named Annie Dias who I found living with her sister Mary Joseph Correia in the 1940 census in San Leandro. From family members they were both dead by 1941 as they can remember. Assuming they died between 1930 and 1940 I tried ordering death certificates for that time period and they found none. I have searched on ancestry for any census, obituaries and death index and can't find anything. Do any of you have suggestions as to where I should go from here? Thanks, Gail (Souza Dias) Elizares -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Mary Dias
Aloha to all, I need some advice on how to proceed. Mary Dias is my grandfather's sister and I have been trying to find out where there are buried but right now I've hit a road block. Mary (deSouza) Dias was born around 1883, in Wainaku HI and married Joseph Dias who was born around 1874 in Portugal. The last known census I found them in was in 1930 in Brooklyn Township in Alameda County California. They had a daughter named Annie Dias who I found living with her sister Mary Joseph Correia in the 1940 census in San Leandro. From family members they were both dead by 1941 as they can remember. Assuming they died between 1930 and 1940 I tried ordering death certificates for that time period and they found none. I have searched on ancestry for any census, obituaries and death index and can't find anything. Do any of you have suggestions as to where I should go from here? Thanks, Gail (Souza Dias) Elizares -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Mary Dias
Bernadette, I was thinking the same thing, I have found her brother buried there, and her daughter and husband are buried at S. Michaels's, and her father is buried at St. Mary's. Hopefully I can find them at one of the cemeteries. What bothers me was why I couldn't find anything from the alameda county vital records. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bernadette Loebs Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Mary Dias Gail, Look at Holy Sepulchre Catholic Cemetery in Hayward, California. My grandmother Aldina Silveria Leal Facha was buried there in 1931. She too lived in the Brooklyn Township at the time of her death. Holy Sepulchre Catholic Cemetery 26320 Mission Blvd Hayward, CA 94544-3033 570-581-2488 The secretary was very helpful when I wrote for information. I think this is a large Portuguese cemetery for the county of Alameda as I have several family members buried there. Good luck with your search. Bernadette Dunn Loebs My Portuguese ancestry Researching: Branco, Facha, Freitas, Leal, Luna, Silveria Islands: Flores, Pico California: Merced, Alameda counties Massachusetts: Bristol county 1840 to present From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gail Elizares Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:20 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Mary Dias Aloha to all, I need some advice on how to proceed. Mary Dias is my grandfather's sister and I have been trying to find out where there are buried but right now I've hit a road block. Mary (deSouza) Dias was born around 1883, in Wainaku HI and married Joseph Dias who was born around 1874 in Portugal. The last known census I found them in was in 1930 in Brooklyn Township in Alameda County California. They had a daughter named Annie Dias who I found living with her sister Mary Joseph Correia in the 1940 census in San Leandro. From family members they were both dead by 1941 as they can remember. Assuming they died between 1930 and 1940 I tried ordering death certificates for that time period and they found none. I have searched on ancestry for any census, obituaries and death index and can't find anything. Do any of you have suggestions as to where I should go from here? Thanks, Gail (Souza Dias) Elizares -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing
Cheri, I did the Family Finder Test already, is it worth to do any of the upgrades? Gail E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] What next?
I found my aunt and uncle (Joseph and Maria/Mary Dias) in the 1930 census in Alameda County (Brooklyn district) California but can't seem to find them anywhere in the 1940 census. I tried ordering death certificates between the 1930 and the 1940 and they couldn't find any. Has anyone experienced something like this and can give me any suggestions, where to look next? Thanks, Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] What next?
Thanks Sonia and Cheri, I did try on family search. I was thinking of joining Vital Search but was a little hesitant because if they would have the same info as ancestry. With your experience has Vital Search been a great help in your genealogy? I will also use the suggestion of the city directory, it could be that they did move to San Leandro because I found their daughter and son-in-law in the 1940 census. Thanks again for the suggestions, Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonia Pacheco Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:39 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What next? And I have a different thought process :) You've confirmed they were alive in 1930 and you know where they were living. I'd start looking at the city directory for that city in 1930 and confirm at which date they were no longer there: that will give you the next starting point as opposed to blindly looking for them between all years in 1930-1940. _ From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:27:29 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What next? Gail E, Search both Ancestry and Family Search for the 1940 census. Different entities, different indexers. There's 2 places to find the California Death Index online. One is VitalSearch, a subscription site. Your local public library might have a subscription. The other is on FamilySearch. Family Search is free. However, it's not fully indexed. You'll have to go to CA records, then find the 1930s decade for the death index, then click on that. Once you get to the Ds, you'll see about 800 images to go through. I'd type in image 100 and go up or down from there until you hit the Di section then eventually Dias. If you don't find them dying in the 1930s, then search the 1940-1997 CA Death Index (also free from Family Search) to figure out when they died. If they died after 1940, then you'll have to do some creative hunting to find them in the 1940 census. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] What next?
Deb, I also tried on FamilySearch and the only ones came out was 1920 and 1930. Their granddaughter was born in 1943 and she said they were already dead (as far as she can remember). That is why I tried ordering the death certificates (1930 - 1940) in the hopes I would find out their death date. We are assuming they are buried in Saint Mary's in Alameda County, California. I'll keep on trying and thanks for all the suggestions. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb McCabe Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:04 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What next? Gail, My Godparents lived in San Leandro in 1940. I knew that for sure, but I couldn't find them on Ancestry in the 1940 census. I looked through all of San Leandro, page by page, and many of the streets weren't listed. I went to FamilySearch and found my Godparents there. If you were looking on Ancestry, you might want to try FamilySearch. Deb When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:46 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] What next? I found my aunt and uncle (Joseph and Maria/Mary Dias) in the 1930 census in Alameda County (Brooklyn district) California but can't seem to find them anywhere in the 1940 census. I tried ordering death certificates between the 1930 and the 1940 and they couldn't find any. Has anyone experienced something like this and can give me any suggestions, where to look next? Thanks, Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Felix Jose da Silviera - son's change of name
That article also helped me a lot, in understanding my family history also. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hughes Roselyn Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 7:07 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Felix Jose da Silviera - son's change of name Hi Diane, You should also read the information listed on the Azores Gen Web site about naming practices written by Kathy Cardoza and Cheri Mello: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/naming.html It was very helpful. Roselyn On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Patronymics isn't involved in this case at all. Normally, the rule of thumb was that only the eldest male was entitled to use the father's surname, so, perhaps Cristiano had an elder brother. Other males would then take the mother's surname. Since women's surnames were often not recorded (Maria Joaquina de Jesus was actually the mother's given name), you sometimes need to go back one or more generations to identify the mother's surname. In this case it appears to have come from your 4th-GGrandfather. Now you have to figure out from whom the name Machado came from. ~ On Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:16:35 PM UTC-4, Diane wrote: Can someone please explain to me why Felix (or Feliz) Jose da Silviera's son, Cristiano Machado Pereira born 1826, would not carry his father's name. Cristiano's mother, according to the marriage records was Maria Joaquina de Jesus, so he didn't get it there either. Cristiano's son (My GGrandfather) was also Pereira. The only Pereira that has come up in the family tree so far was the grandfather of Maria Joaquina de Jesus who appears as Mathias (?) Pereira de Almeida. The one explanation I can find so far is that Cristiano used his wife's grandather's middle name which seems a bit far out (?). Felix is definitely Cristiano's father according to several records. I'm not versed on the patrynomics as yet but this seems something different. thanks for any advice Diane -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Karen, just a note, I'm from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Yes, I was also thinking later that it could also be Hakalau, Hoomula is in the Kona area of the big island. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Thornberg Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 8:39 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation I would be more inclined to say 'Hakalau'. A plantation located midway between Hilo Laupahoehoe on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island. A lot of my relatives got their start there too. Have you checked the 1900 1910 Census? PS In my 23 yrs on BI never heard of either Haukula or HoomulaHonomu yes, near Hakalau. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I'm from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation
Hakalau is about 15 minutes from my home, I grew up along the Hamakua Coast with the plantations. It was a very special time for me. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Boggs Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:44 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation It was Hakalau that my grandmother was born. I believe my g grandfather worked on the plantation there. _ From: Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, My Vieira Anselmo grandfather and great grandfather were listed on the 1890 census Hawaii big island, Hamakua district at Hanalima. The 1890 directory for the big island lists them near Pahala. They came on the second voyage of the Highflyer in 1881 from San Miguel and went to Pleasanton,CA in 1893. I don't know what plantation that was. Pat Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Pat Thornberg hailiha...@yahoo.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation I would be more inclined to say 'Hakalau'. A plantation located midway between Hilo Laupahoehoe on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island. A lot of my relatives got their start there too. Have you checked the 1900 1910 Census? PS In my 23 yrs on BI never heard of either Haukula or HoomulaHonomu yes, near Hakalau. From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Karen, just a note, I'm from the Big Island and I never heard a place called Haukula, could it have been Hoomula? Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com? ] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Paul G. my great grandparents came to Hawaii on the SS Surveric on the same date. They also left Hawaii in 1913 and came to Oakland, California on the SS Sierra. They were either relatives or good friends of the Silva's. My grandmother's godparents were Silva/Medeiros. My g grandfather was Manuel Jesse (Jacintho) Duarte and my g grandmother Maria Francis Rose Correira Medieros Duarte. They had 3 children when the arrived in Hawaii Maria 6 or 7, Manuel Jr. 3, and Georgina 1. My grandmother was born on the Big Island in Haukula and her brother August Duarte was born in Lihue, Kauai. That is about all I know. M G Grandfather drove a mule-team in the sugar cane fields I believe. I am trying to find out more information about their life in Hawaii and would love to see passports but I do not know how to do that. Could we be related On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Cheri, Thank you for the column headings. I know they went to Hawaii. The Suveric left Sao Miguel and went to the Madeira Islands. That is where my GGrandparents on my granfathers side came from. From their the ship sailed for Hawaii (Sandwich Islands). The Silvas (Sao Miguel family) lived their until 1913 when they moved to California. I have a picture of the family with a neighborhood boy outside their home. While the Gomes lived in Hawaii until the early 1920's. I've looked through all of the 1906 passports and did not find them. Would they be required to apply for a passport in advance of moving? Would the children (5 of them) also be required to have a passport and be listed on the forms back in the early 1900's? The last Silva child was born in 1903, so I'll check the passport for 1903 - 1905 and double check the 1906 again. As always thanks for your help. Paul G. On Sep 20, 3:55 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Paul G, For the time period you are researching (1906 or so), the headings are: Year, month, day, passport number, passenger number, name, parents. The 2nd page continues: Status (s=single, c= married, v=widowed), age, council, freguesia, occupation, can write, and destination. Most European countries have a little hook on top of the 1 and they put a slash in the 7. I don't remember if they immigrated to Hawaii first. If so, there are 2 typed books where they extracted passengers to Hawaii or the Sandwich Isles as they were called. The Bob De Mello book and the Knowlton book. Several people on this list have the books and can do a look up if they went to HI first. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list
Yes, I looked at island routes and the archives at the Hawaii.gov site, couldn't find it there. I'm just wondering if he used another name coming over. It's like his last name was de Souza, some children were name Souza Dias, and some were just plain Souza. He was also married in 1883, I don't know if he married in Portugal or Hawaii. I do show they had a child name Maria da Estrella Souza born in Portugal in 1882. Thanks, Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Nostrome Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list http://archives1.dags.hawaii.gov/gsdl/cgi-bin/library Have you checked the Hawaiian records to see if they have him listed on a ship there? I haven't been following your search but sometimes you can find them. Good luck, Pat Anselmo Nostrome -Original Message- From: Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 2:09 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list Also what I did was research the siblings and check if they were naturalized. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: You might not ever find him on the passenger ship list if he stowed away. My ex's great, great grandfather stowed away on the ship in a mattress to Hawaii On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gail E, I think the most common spelling around the 1880s that I see is Caetano. But back then, not everyone was a good speller either. Not everyone is a good speller today! :) Go back to the website and start with the 1875-1883 records. Start at the end, in 1883. They could have immigrated Nov 1883 and the daughter born Dec 1883, so you need to check that too. DON'T read name by name. Look at the right hand page. In the middle, there's a column that say Destino (Destination). Look for the words Hawaii, Sandwich Isles,' or Sandwich anything. And if he picked up his pen in the middle, it could look like San dwich or Sandw ich or anything. So don't skip over it if it initially looks like 2 words. Once you find a group going to Hawaii/Sandwich islands, then scroll left, looking for something that looks like Caetano da Souza , son of Jose da Souza and Maria Ignacio. Or Maria anything. And Caetano will be in his early 20s. Someone with Bob de Mello's book or the Knowlton book may be able to look up the entry for you (coming into HI). Also, you might want to check out Mel's Portuguese Hawaiian immigration site at www. yourislandroutes.com. She has an index to the book Portuguese Hawaiian Memories. That may give you more info. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list
Thanks Cheri, on one census it said 1883 and one said 1887 but I believe 1883 is correct because they had a daughter in Portugal in 1882 and another daughter born in Hawaii 1883. On his headstone his name is listed as Caton de Souza born about 1860 in Sao Miguel. His name was also listed as Caitano and Quitao. His parents are Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio. I tried looking at the CCA website but couldn't find anything. Do you think his name could have been different when he traveled over?I do have the census in my shoebox in ancestry, I'll look if he was naturalized. Thanks again, Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:47 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list Gail E, Need a name, date of event (death or whatever) and location. Death certificates varied over time. Some ask certain questions, others don't. And your ancestor wasn't the person giving the info on his own death certificate. So many things on the death aren't always accurate. But there may be clues you can get from the death that will lead you to look at another source. The port for Sao Miguel has records LEAVING the island. They are online at the CCA Web site (Centro de Conhecimento dos Acores = Center of Knowledge of the Azores). http://goo.gl/0obW7 Look for the green words that say Pesquisa de Passaportes. Click that. From the drop down, click Ponta Delgada then click the Procurar button. Chose the year span you want and then go page by page looking for him. Since you didn't give any dates on your ancestors, I don't know what censuses you checked. Many of the U.S. Censuses ask for year of immigration and if naturalized and what date. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Can't find him in ship list
I have my great grandfathers death certificate which doesn't say much. I can't find him on any of the ship lists. All I know he is from Sao Miguel. Any suggestions on how I would be able to find out if he did become a citizen or other routes I might be able to take? Gail E. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in
Nancy, The names that show we are matching is De Souza and Ferriera. Do you have any of those on your line? I believe I'm matching Shirley and Cheri through my moms side the Silva Barboza line. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Couto Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:29 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail, You and I are a match as well, at the 4th Cousin-Remote Cousin level. I also match Altino at the same level. I do not match Shirley, Cheri, or Cheri's dad. I've looked at your GEDCOM and can't really see where the connection might be, although I have Pereiras in my line, mostly from Sao Roque, Sao Miguel. I will email you privately. Nancy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in
Aloha Cheri, Shirley, you were the strongest match, the surnames that I have on my line so far, is de Souza, Ferreira, Ignacio, Branco Oliveira, Amaral, da Luz, Barboza, da Camara, and I think it was Costa Galente. I'm trying to enter all the information into my legacy program and see where we are related. It could be we are related through several different relatives so that is why we are stronger. I don't know where any of them came from except Sao Miguel. I haven't come across any documentation that shows what town they came from. Thanks, Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:37 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail: Cheri, Altino, and I - all connect on our Mello lines. Do you have any Mello in your ancestry? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Cheri, With Shirley, they are showing 3rd, you and Altino 4th. As far as I know I am pure Portuguese. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail E, Weird. It shows me and not my dad. What kind of hiccup do they have in their system tonight? Be careful when matching my dad and Shirley. There is so much intermarriage there that the prediction may be stronger than reality. If they are predicting 3rd cousins, it could be 4th or even 5th. Many of your matches will not be on this genealogy list (especially if you are of other non-Portuguese ancestry). You'll need to contact each person individually. Do a couple a day. You're going to have to research further than your greats though. And work on the freguesias. Sao Miguel island isn't enough. Since you match me, Shirley, and Altino, though, it probably has something to do with Vila Franca. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in
Shirley, My great grandparents on my father's side was Francisco Branco Oliveira about 1860 - 1926 who married (all the children ended using the name Oliveira Branco) Marianna Amaral about 1870-1950 According to the census they are both from Azores Caitano (aka Guitao/Keyton/Caton) de Souza 1860 - 1933 (parents Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacia) who married Maria Ferreira (Fereira) born 1865 - 1900. My great grandparents on my mother's side was Francisco A. da Luz about 1859-1945 who married (from Paul do Mar, Egreja, Madeira) parents Antonio da Luz and Angelica de Jesus Maria Silva Barboza about 1872-1948 (Sao Miguel) I'm trying to enter the rest of info in and have some death records on order to give me more info. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail: What can you tell me about the names that I have underlined? Cheri Mello and I connect on BARBOZA. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Aloha Cheri, Shirley, you were the strongest match, the surnames that I have on my line so far, is de Souza, Ferreira, Ignacio, Branco Oliveira, Amaral, da Luz, Barboza, da Camara, and I think it was Costa Galente. I'm trying to enter all the information into my legacy program and see where we are related. It could be we are related through several different relatives so that is why we are stronger. I don't know where any of them came from except Sao Miguel. I haven't come across any documentation that shows what town they came from. Thanks, Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:37 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail: Cheri, Altino, and I - all connect on our Mello lines. Do you have any Mello in your ancestry? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Cheri, With Shirley, they are showing 3rd, you and Altino 4th. As far as I know I am pure Portuguese. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail E, Weird. It shows me and not my dad. What kind of hiccup do they have in their system tonight? Be careful when matching my dad and Shirley. There is so much intermarriage there that the prediction may be stronger than reality. If they are predicting 3rd cousins, it could be 4th or even 5th. Many of your matches will not be on this genealogy list (especially if you are of other non-Portuguese ancestry). You'll need to contact each person individually. Do a couple a day. You're going to have to research further than your greats though. And work on the freguesias. Sao Miguel island isn't enough. Since you match me, Shirley, and Altino, though, it probably has something to do with Vila Franca. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow
[AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in
Just received my results and I upload my GED.COM file. Showed 18 matches. Is it okay to show the results online or do I have to contact them individually. Gail (Souza Dias) Elizares -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like
Got my results shows connections to both you and Shirley Gail (Souza Dias) Elizares From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:35 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like Attached are a couple of screen shots from REAL pages (my mom's and my dad's). I blocked out the names because I didn't get their permission to post. Except Altino and Shirley, both of this list. I'm sure they don't mind. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) Azores DNA Project -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in
Cheri, With Shirley, they are showing 3rd, you and Altino 4th. As far as I know I am pure Portuguese. Gail E. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My results are in Gail E, Weird. It shows me and not my dad. What kind of hiccup do they have in their system tonight? Be careful when matching my dad and Shirley. There is so much intermarriage there that the prediction may be stronger than reality. If they are predicting 3rd cousins, it could be 4th or even 5th. Many of your matches will not be on this genealogy list (especially if you are of other non-Portuguese ancestry). You'll need to contact each person individually. Do a couple a day. You're going to have to research further than your greats though. And work on the freguesias. Sao Miguel island isn't enough. Since you match me, Shirley, and Altino, though, it probably has something to do with Vila Franca. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question
Shirely, I’m sorry it could be Hayward, CA. We do have them in the census in Hawaii, and one census says they came in 1883 and one says 1887 but it has to be 1883 because Maria was born in Hawaii. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:16 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question I still can't find them. RE Holy Sepulchre Cemetery --- The only Holy Sepulchre that I know of is in Hayward, Ca. How do you know that they went to Hawaii in 1883? Where did you find the info? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Shirley this is what I know Parents Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio Son – Caitano de Souza (also known as Quitao or Guitao or Caton) Born @ 1860 Sao Miguel Died @ 1933 buried at St. Mary’s Oakland, CA Wife – Maria Ferreira – Born @ 1865 Sao Miguel, Died on Dec 27, 1900 buried in Hilo, HI (couldn’t locate grave as of yet) Daughter – Maria da Estella Souza Born @ 1882 Sao Miguel, never found anything else about her Daughter – Maria Souza Born @ 1883 Hawaii, married Joseph Dias lived in Brooklyn district in Oakland, CA (currently searching for death certificate) Son – Manoel de Souza Dias Born @ 1884 Hawaii, married Teresa de Silva, last known in Oahu (still searching on him) Son – Joaquin Souza Dias Born @ 1887 Hawaii, married Mary Oliveira Branco, (my grandparents) both buried in Paauilo, Hawaii Son – Caesar Souza Born @ 1893 Hawaii, married Marianna da Palma, both buried at Holy Sepulchre in Oakland, CA Daughter – Rosaline de Souza Born@ 1894 Hawaii, married Joseph Moniz Lindinha both buried at St. Mary’s Oakland, CA Son – John Souza Born @ 1896 Hawaii, (I think passed away because in 1900 census but not in 1910.) Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:58 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Do you have any idea where these people died? Do you know how old they were? About when they were born? I have been looking at all of the sources that I have, and cqn not find them on a ship's list. Do you know the names, ages, place of birth of all of their children? Have you ever found them on the Hawaii census? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Hi Shirley, I’m not sure if a child came with them. I don’t know if it is accurate but I show a child name Maria born in 1882 and approximate date of marriage 1883. They show a second child name Maria da Estrella Souza born in 1883 in Hawaii. Second Maria married Joseph Dias and lived in Alameda County. I tried ordering death certificates covering 1931 through 1935 but they couldn’t find any. They are double checking with the state to make sure they didn’t die during that period. If it comes back a no record found I will try to order another death certificate covering the next five years. I’m doing this because I can’t find them in the 1940 census so I think they died during that period. It seems like at one point there were two Maria’s in Hawaii but I’m not sure. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:22 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Gail: Do you know if your grandparents had any children with them when they went to Hawaii Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question I’m having a hard time finding my grandfather and grandmother on a passport or ship list. They came from Sao Miguel and their names are Quitao de Souza aka Caitano Souza, and his wife was Maria Ferreira Souza. I do know they came to Hawaii in 1883. I’m still trying to find if their names are on the ship list. Gail Souza Dias Elizares From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonia Pacheco Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:54 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Please reply directly to me, thank you. I am currently doing some research on illegal emigration from Portugal to the United States during the time period (roughly) between 1890-1910. If you had a relative who
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question
Shirley this is what I know Parents Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio Son – Caitano de Souza (also known as Quitao or Guitao or Caton) Born @ 1860 Sao Miguel Died @ 1933 buried at St. Mary’s Oakland, CA Wife – Maria Ferreira – Born @ 1865 Sao Miguel, Died on Dec 27, 1900 buried in Hilo, HI (couldn’t locate grave as of yet) Daughter – Maria da Estella Souza Born @ 1882 Sao Miguel, never found anything else about her Daughter – Maria Souza Born @ 1883 Hawaii, married Joseph Dias lived in Brooklyn district in Oakland, CA (currently searching for death certificate) Son – Manoel de Souza Dias Born @ 1884 Hawaii, married Teresa de Silva, last known in Oahu (still searching on him) Son – Joaquin Souza Dias Born @ 1887 Hawaii, married Mary Oliveira Branco, (my grandparents) both buried in Paauilo, Hawaii Son – Caesar Souza Born @ 1893 Hawaii, married Marianna da Palma, both buried at Holy Sepulchre in Oakland, CA Daughter – Rosaline de Souza Born@ 1894 Hawaii, married Joseph Moniz Lindinha both buried at St. Mary’s Oakland, CA Son – John Souza Born @ 1896 Hawaii, (I think passed away because in 1900 census but not in 1910.) Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:58 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Do you have any idea where these people died? Do you know how old they were? About when they were born? I have been looking at all of the sources that I have, and cqn not find them on a ship's list. Do you know the names, ages, place of birth of all of their children? Have you ever found them on the Hawaii census? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Hi Shirley, I’m not sure if a child came with them. I don’t know if it is accurate but I show a child name Maria born in 1882 and approximate date of marriage 1883. They show a second child name Maria da Estrella Souza born in 1883 in Hawaii. Second Maria married Joseph Dias and lived in Alameda County. I tried ordering death certificates covering 1931 through 1935 but they couldn’t find any. They are double checking with the state to make sure they didn’t die during that period. If it comes back a no record found I will try to order another death certificate covering the next five years. I’m doing this because I can’t find them in the 1940 census so I think they died during that period. It seems like at one point there were two Maria’s in Hawaii but I’m not sure. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:22 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Gail: Do you know if your grandparents had any children with them when they went to Hawaii Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question I’m having a hard time finding my grandfather and grandmother on a passport or ship list. They came from Sao Miguel and their names are Quitao de Souza aka Caitano Souza, and his wife was Maria Ferreira Souza. I do know they came to Hawaii in 1883. I’m still trying to find if their names are on the ship list. Gail Souza Dias Elizares From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonia Pacheco Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:54 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Please reply directly to me, thank you. I am currently doing some research on illegal emigration from Portugal to the United States during the time period (roughly) between 1890-1910. If you had a relative who emigrated during this time period and you have either their passport but not their name on a passenger list OR you have found their name on a passenger list but have not found their passport, can you please email me directly? I am only trying to compile some rough numbers regarding how many people may have travailed illegally from Portugal to the United States. My research has shown, so far, that many individuals were not aware that they were even traveling illegally or that they were aiding illegal travel! Thanks in advance, Sonia Sónia Pacheco Librarian Archivist Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives Claire T. Carney Library University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 285 Old Westport Road N. Dartmouth, MA 02747 Tel. 508-999-8695 Fax 508-999-8424 Email spach...@umassd.edu Web site: http://www.lib.umassd.edu/archives/Archives.html -- To unsubscribe from
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question
Hi Shirley, I’m not sure if a child came with them. I don’t know if it is accurate but I show a child name Maria born in 1882 and approximate date of marriage 1883. They show a second child name Maria da Estrella Souza born in 1883 in Hawaii. Second Maria married Joseph Dias and lived in Alameda County. I tried ordering death certificates covering 1931 through 1935 but they couldn’t find any. They are double checking with the state to make sure they didn’t die during that period. If it comes back a no record found I will try to order another death certificate covering the next five years. I’m doing this because I can’t find them in the 1940 census so I think they died during that period. It seems like at one point there were two Maria’s in Hawaii but I’m not sure. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:22 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Gail: Do you know if your grandparents had any children with them when they went to Hawaii Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question I’m having a hard time finding my grandfather and grandmother on a passport or ship list. They came from Sao Miguel and their names are Quitao de Souza aka Caitano Souza, and his wife was Maria Ferreira Souza. I do know they came to Hawaii in 1883. I’m still trying to find if their names are on the ship list. Gail Souza Dias Elizares From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonia Pacheco Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:54 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Please reply directly to me, thank you. I am currently doing some research on illegal emigration from Portugal to the United States during the time period (roughly) between 1890-1910. If you had a relative who emigrated during this time period and you have either their passport but not their name on a passenger list OR you have found their name on a passenger list but have not found their passport, can you please email me directly? I am only trying to compile some rough numbers regarding how many people may have travailed illegally from Portugal to the United States. My research has shown, so far, that many individuals were not aware that they were even traveling illegally or that they were aiding illegal travel! Thanks in advance, Sonia Sónia Pacheco Librarian Archivist Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives Claire T. Carney Library University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 285 Old Westport Road N. Dartmouth, MA 02747 Tel. 508-999-8695 Fax 508-999-8424 Email spach...@umassd.edu Web site: http://www.lib.umassd.edu/archives/Archives.html -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder DNA results are starting to trickle in
Cheri, how does that actually work. Do they let us know who are already in the azores group that we could be related to. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:22 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder DNA results are starting to trickle in I think that Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)'s coupon sale ran from about Memorial to June 10th. The people who had previously tested did not have to wait for a kit. FTDNA just pulled their vials and started processing them. So people whose DNA was received at the lab in late May are starting to get their results. Stay tuned for more! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Hawaiian Memories
Did you contact the Portuguese Genealogical Society in Honolulu if they still had the books? Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 3:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Hawaiian Memories Hello I was wondering if anyone in the group has Portuguese Hawaiian Memories I think I have found mention of a few families that I am searching for. If at all possible, I am looking for Maria Joaquina Viera, page 133 page 137 Nuno Camara page 118 Maria Rosario page 117 Thank you in advance. Linda -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo
Thanks Cheri, I do understand your view. The only reason I asked was when I requested last time at the same cemetery, I waited for over a month and someone on this group got it for me. When he got me the photo I did go on Find A Grave and updated the request. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:18 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo Gail, There is nothing more annoying to volunteers than to go and take a photo just to find out the person requesting asked the world and someone else did it and wasted the volunteer's time. Even though I take pictures in larger city cemeteries, some are old. Some are so large that the flat memorial tablets are trimmed once every X months. So I sit and trim away the grass. If there's mud (from the lawn being watered), I pull out my collapsible bucket and find a spigot and wash it off. Then I let it dry. If the light is not right, I pull out my umbrella and shade the stone the right way. In fairness to the Find A Grave volunteers, you should take down your photo request there and wait and see if anyone on this list picks up the request or any other you list you may have posted it on. Find A Grave gives the volunteer 2 weeks to fulfill the request after it has been claimed. So you could wait 2 weeks after this posting to see if anyone fills it. And once someone agrees to take your picture, you need to tell every list you posted on that the request has been fulfilled so some other volunteer does not go out there to take your photo. Sorry if this doesn't sound polite. I've been doing the grave photos for a few years now on Find A Grave and have encountered a few people who didn't take down the request and I used my gas, time, and energy just to find out that the request was fulfilled by someone else. Hope you understand. Cheri Mello Also a Graver on Find A Grave -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo
I got my photo this morning and I appreciate all of your help. The person uploaded it on find a grave. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:38 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo Some photo requests (especially rural) can take a couple of years. I just take them down and resubmit later for my rural requests. If a month is too long for you to wait, call the cemetery. Some larger cemeteries will take a photo for you for a fee. I think the better venue for grave stone photo requests is Find A Grave. They have an entire system and they are able to filter it for the cemetery location you are requesting. This list is over 960+ people who live in America, Canada, the Azores, New Zealand, Australia, etc. The focus of this list is Azorean genealogy research and many people not in the area of Alamada County. Since you got help from someone on this for a previous photo request, I suggest you email them directly (privately) to their email address. Take down the request from Find A Grave and wait for the person from this list who previously took the photo for you to take the other photo for you. Hope that expedites your photo request, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo
If anyone in the near future goes to St. Mary's Cemetary, would you please take a photo of ggrandfather's grave. His name is listed as Caton Souza and is located at Y14-26th. He died on 05/04/1933. Thanks, Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo
Sorry, it's at St. Mary's Alameda County, California. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo St Mary's where? I bet there are hundreds in the U.S., Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand... If your ancestor is listed on Find A Grave, I'd click the Request a Photo button there. If your ancestor does not have a memorial on Find A Grave, I'd make one and then click the Request a Photo button. Find A Grave then emails the top X people on the list within a Y mile radius of that cemetery. Also, there are gravers that will browse the photo requests and pick them up and go out to the cemetery to take a picture. City cemeteries have a better response rate than rural cemeteries. Nevertheless, Find A Grave has an army of volunteers that like to take tombstone pictures. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo
I also did put in a request in Find A Grave. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grave Photo St Mary's where? I bet there are hundreds in the U.S., Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand... If your ancestor is listed on Find A Grave, I'd click the Request a Photo button there. If your ancestor does not have a memorial on Find A Grave, I'd make one and then click the Request a Photo button. Find A Grave then emails the top X people on the list within a Y mile radius of that cemetery. Also, there are gravers that will browse the photo requests and pick them up and go out to the cemetery to take a picture. City cemeteries have a better response rate than rural cemeteries. Nevertheless, Find A Grave has an army of volunteers that like to take tombstone pictures. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Test Kit
I got my test kit today and will be doing it tomorrow morning. Researching, de Souza, da Camara, Branco Oliveira, da Luz (da Luz is from Madeira) Hopefully I will find more info about my ancestors. Gail (Souza Dias) Elizares -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Test Kit
Yes, I'm from the Hawaii (Big Island). This group helps out a lot and if I can be of help to anyone who had ancestors on the big island let me know. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 12:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Test Kit You are in Hawaii? So 9 days from Houston, Texas to where you are in Hawaii. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing
Aloha Cheri, I did place my order for the DNA testing and I thank you for the coupon. Since I ordered it under my name, the test would have to be me? I'm just curious because I think my Aunty who would be my father's sister would probably have a better DNA match than if I take the test. Any help you can give me would be appreciated. Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] vinha dalhos
In Hawaii we usually use aku which is a tuna fish. It will taste good with whatever fish you use. This is a recipe that I use for Pickle Onions, 1 ¼ cup vinegar 2 cups water 3 tsp. Hawaiian salt also called rock salt If you want your pickles really vinegary you can add more vinegar We usually leave it out overnight so the salt really melts and put it in the refrigerator the next day. We also add in pipinola with the onions and bell peppers. Hope this helps. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bellema...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:35 PM To: azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] vinha dalhos I was going through some stuff my sis gave me before she moved and I have a feeling she probably bought this on her last trip to Hawaii as it says it comes from Hawaii. It says Portuguese Fish Mix Vinha Dalhos Mix. You add water, fish and marinate. If I make this what will it taste like and what kind of fish should I use? It says you can also use it for Portuguese Pickled Onions. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Sale only on Family Tree DNA
Hi Cheri, Thanks for the coupon. I just have one more question, my gg grandfather was de Souza, do I just enter Souza? Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:15 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder Sale only on Family Tree DNA Just so the list knows... Today is May 31st, the last day of the month. I am switching ISP providers due to my move. The cable company is cutting this one off today. I don't know if it's at 11:59 pm or what. The phone company will install the new one, but I could not schedule them until Saturday. So Friday and part of Saturday I won't have complete Internet access. I can view the emails and send a very short reply though my not-so-smart smart phone. I won't be forwarding coupons until Saturday. And yes, keep the coupons coming if you have already tested and won't be using them. I still need many more. For those of you who have ordered, make sure you are part of the Azores DNA Project. 1) Log into your DNA page with the kit number and password provided. 2) At the top, look for the blue navigation bar and point at Projects. Choose Join from the drop down menu. 3) In the search box for surnames, type in: azores. Click Search. 4) From the list, click on Azores Islands, Port 5) Scroll down to the bottom and click the orange JOIN button. Cheri Mello Rick Pimentel Family Tree DNA Administrators (volunteer) Azores DNA Project -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente- Sao Miguel
Which island of Hawaii did they live on? Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of carab...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:06 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente- Sao Miguel I was wondering if the names Francisco Pereira Rosa Vicente were familiar to anyone on the list. A friend of mine is stuck at these 2 people on one of her lines. They were both born on Sao Miguel, we don't know where, but with different records stating different ages we are guessing they were born around 1875. On one Hawaii census, 1910, says he was 2 years older than her, then on a birth record of one of their children it says she was 2 yrs. older than him so we who knows! They met married in Fall River, Mass. around 1899. Their first born child was born in May 1900 in Hawaii, which is where they went after they married. They stayed in Hawaii died there. This is all we know are trying to find out where they came from on Sao Miguel. Thanks, Sherry -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1
Thank you so much will be calling tomorrow. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Raposo Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:37 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1 Father Joe's address is: Rev. Joseph Viveiros, Pastor St. Dominic Parish Church 1277 Grand Army of the Republic Highway PO Box 205 Swansea, MA 02777 508-675-7206 I suggest calling the rectory between 9AM to 3PM (Eastern Daylight Saving Times), M-F Having all this data in a ged com is a real treasure and will save endless of hours of eye strain, magnifying glass in hand, as well as trying to decipher the abreviations in the original (if one could get one's hands on a photocopy of the original manuscript!) Good luck! John Miranda Raposo From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1 Since John wrote that in 2004, Fr. Joe Viveiros has completed the entire 600 pages. If you did not order them from the mid-2000s, then to get the whole deal now is $50 or $60, I think. It's in Gedcom format. I know George Pacheco was burning the CDs for Fr. Joe, but I don't know if you mail the money to George for Fr. Joe or to Fr. Joe and he'll George to make the CD. Either George or John will let the list know. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1
Are the CD's still available and how would we be able to purchase them? Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:44 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1 Here is some information about Dr. Machado posted in 2004 by John Miranda Raposo, a fellow member of this group. It should answer any questions you may have about Dr. Machado and his credentials. From what you have said about the book you have, I'm unable to determine if this a newly available resource, and/or, whether it is based on the same genealogical documents of which Mr. Miranda Raposo speaks. Carlos Machado was a very prominent 19th century political and social leader in S. Miguel. He was the founder of the Museum in Ponta Delgada which bears his name. His avocation was genealogical research. When he died he had left over 600 12x17 pages of genealogies, tracing the descendants of the earliest settlers on S. Miguel to about the year 1900. Almost anybody with origins in S. Miguel will eventually connect to one of the lines researched by Carlos Machado, thus saving an awful lot of time, eye strain and expense. Machado's genealogies are kept at the archives in Ponta Delgada. There is only one publicly photocopy available in the US, which is at the Taunton Public Library. There are only about 6 copies in private hands in the US. Now, Father Joseph Viveiros has entered the first 100 pages of the total 600 pages into a genealogy program. There are nearly 10,000 individuals in the gedcom which includes Fr. Joe's supplemental research. Father Joe thinks that it will take him another 3-4 years before all 600 pages have been entered into his program. He is making a gedcom of the first 100 pages of Carlos Machado's genealogies available on a CD-ROM. Anyone interested in the details for purchasing the CD-ROM should contact me privately. John Miranda Raposo ~~ I have been looking at Carlos Machado's genealogy book and found information concerning my grandmother's family. If anyone has information as to who Carlos Machado is, and about how he acquired his information I would be interested in knowing. Thank you, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1
Thanks Cheri, hopefully someone will let me know where to order it from. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Carlos Machado's livro 1 Gail, Maybe you missed the previous message. Here it is. Since John wrote that in 2004, Fr. Joe Viveiros has completed the entire 600 pages. If you did not order them from the mid-2000s, then to get the whole deal now is $50 or $60, I think. It's in Gedcom format. I know George Pacheco was burning the CDs for Fr. Joe, but I don't know if you mail the money to George for Fr. Joe or to Fr. Joe and he'll get George to make the CD. Either George or John will let the list know. So I hope one of those 2 guys post the ordering instructions. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel
Hi Jim, I live in Hawaii and is also a descendent of de Souza. My great grandfather Guitao de Souza came to Hawaii in 1883. His wife was Maria Ferreira. I can't find his name on the manifest but he was also know as Caetano or Caitano de Souza. They had a child Maria born in 1882 in Azores but I'm not sure if she came with them. Guitao's father is Jose de Souza and mother Maria Ignacia. The other children are Maria de Souza who married Joseph Dias and lived in Alameda County, CA. The next one is Manoel Dias Souza who I only know had their last child in Honolulu. I haven't found anything more on him yet. The next child would be my grandfather Joaquin de Souza who married Maria Oliveira Branco or Branco Oliveira lived here in Hawaii. The next child is Caesar de Souza who lived in San Leandro, CA. The next child was Rosaline who married Joseph Moniz Lindinha but later dropped the Lindinha. They also lived the Alameda County area. Last was a son named John. I don't know if he died because he is in the 1900 census as 4 years old and in the 1920 census he is no longer there. There is also another family from the Hilo area that is also a de Souza but the names she's given me is not familiar with my family. I will tell her to join the Azores group and she might be family to you. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Triplett Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:33 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Nordestinho, Sao Miguel Hi MarIa, I actually have very little that would help you but I was wondering if you have anything that could help me get started linking my Mother back to the Azores. What I know: mothers name Erma Sousa born and raised in oakland 1924 Father, Antone (sp) Sousa born in Azores came to Oakland 1919 through Hawaii, with parents on boat to Hi 1901. My Grandmother also Sousa born in Azores , probably a cousin of grandfather Aunt name Constance also lived in Oakland Aunt named Rosaline lived in Hawaii cousin named Sony Vivas lives in Honolulu At least one other of grandfathers generation named Manual Sousa I know I have relatives still in Hawaii, Oakland and San Leandro CA Any idea how I can make the first connections and get a start on this? Another thing is there two spellings? Sousa and Souza? Thanks jim Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Maria Sousa lelaalvesso...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently looking through the baptism records of Achada, Nordeste around the 1850's. I have come across many Franco and Medeiros names. For instance: Nov. 8, 1853, Justo or Fusto was born to Antonio de Medeiros Franco of Achada and his wife, Dona Rosa Jacinto of Nordestinho. Antonio de Medeiros parents were: Capitao Jose Medeiros Franco and Francisca Amaral. Hope this helps someone. Maria Sousa On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Nancy Hoopes nch...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is anyone researching the village of Nordestinho on Sao Miguel. I was there 5 years ago and family name Couto is in the church cemetery. Last names, Furtado, Couto, Monis or Moniz, Cabral, Franco, de Medeiros, Pimentel, Raposo ? All in the 1800's. Grandmother settled in New Bedford/Fall River early 1900's. Nancy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism record translation help
I'm also a deSouza but I still haven't found out what part of Sao Miguel my great grandfather immigrated from. Sometimes I think he was a stow away since I can't find him on the passenger list. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bobcams...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:26 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism record translation help David does any of your line go into the village of Santa Cruz. The reason I ask is that my Grandmother is from there and there are some deSouza and Melos in my line. Thanks Bob Camacho Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciousa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho In a message dated 2/21/2012 11:18:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, oldschoo...@gmail.com writes: I was trying to look for clues regarding the couple of Miguel de Souza Ataide and his wife Maria de Mello and was going back through the baptismal records of all their children. Their first child was Joanna born in 1705 in Sao Matheus, Graciosa. There was one line in the record that I was not familiar with and was wondering if someone could help translate what it means. it is right after it lists the mothers name as D. Maria de Mello. Usually in the other baptismal records for their kids after it listed the mothers name it would follow by saying moradores do vila da praia or somthing along those lines, but with this record, there is a phrase just before this sentence that I was curious about. It may be nothing, but hopefully might help. Also there is some writing on the side of the record that I was curious about --below where the priest wrote in afterwards who the godparents were. Any help would be appreciated. David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records
Thank you so much for all your help, I appreciate it. What is very funny is their names on the death certificate is Lindinha and the grave is Moniz. His name was Jospeh Moniz Lindinha. I just got word from the vital statistic office that they found my Aunty Rosaline death certificate so I should be receiving it sometime next week. If ever you need any information from the big island Hawaii and I can help, just let me know. These Portuguese don't want to be found so they keep changing their names Ha! Ha!. It's like my great grandfather is de Souza but on his grave is Souza and his wife is Souza Dias. Some names are just Dias and some are Souza so it gets a little harder to find. Thanks again and I hope you have a very nice weekend. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Gomes Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:03 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records I do have to say... it is time for a happy dance!!!I found three people (not two) when I went to the cemetery. I know I said that I would be a second set of eyes; however, I was out there last week and (at first) I looked and could not find the graves. As I said in a previous email, the people at this cemetery are VERY helpful. I went back in and confirmed with them the locations of the graves and went back out to the site. They even gave me a piece of paper with the other graves in the surrounding area, so I could narrow the area down and make sure I was in the correct spot. It turns out I wasn't in the correct spot the first time, I was actually a row off when I was looking for Alfred Lindinha... Oh and there is another surprise (and this is why I fulfilled the request on Find a Grave.) They are not buried under the name Lindinha on the markers; however, the office records do, in fact, reflect Lindinha. The surname on all three markers is Moniz. The person buried next to Alfred is the person buried next to him on the piece of paper that the office provided, so I am very certain that I have the correct marker. Let me know if you need anything else. =-) p.s. I will email you the actual pictures in a couple of minutes. Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, gomes.ances...@gmail.com gomes.ances...@gmail.com wrote: I'll let Theresa have first grabs at it... :-) That cemetery is located on the side of a hill and has a mixture of different types of graves everywhere... It can be a little cumbersome finding one there that is why I offered another set of eyes to help. :-) Eric Gomes On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Aloha Eric, I just put on find a grave where the location of the two graves are. The names are Alfred Moniz Lindinha and Joseph Moniz Lindinha with my Aunty Rosalina Lindinha. I'm just waiting for someone to take a picture for me. I'm praying there is a photo on because we have never seen my Aunty. So who ever gets there first I would really appreciate the photo of the grave. Everyone as we say in Hawaii Mele Kalikimaka and Happy New Year. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gomes.ances...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:16 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Just read this thread... I am very familiar with St. Mary's. I found a lost set of great grandparents there. If you need any help or a second set of eyes looking for the grave site. Let me know. The office staff at the cemetery is very helpful. Next week is my genealogy week, I will be researching for at least two or three days next week. Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Hi: The BORBA line is on my brother-in-law's mother. This is what I have: Bernice Borba DOB 2 Feb 1919, (I think the Borba's had a dairy near Irvington, CA) DODeath:19 Oct 1975, Fallon, Nevada Bernice was the daughter of Antonio M. Borba DOB 12 Nov 1885 DOD 9 Apr 1960 SPOUSE Rose F. Borba DOB 16 Oct 1894 DOD 8 Dec 1941 I am guessing that all of these events took place in California. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Adair Borba mailto:adair1...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Shirley, This attachment is not updated but may give you a hint if you think your family links. What can you tell me about your Borba link? _ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with word on marriage certificate for Charles Costa (pimental) and Violet Vasconcel(l)os
Could it be Miranda, there are a lot of Mirandas on the island of Hawaii. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of K Pimental Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:05 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with word on marriage certificate for Charles Costa (pimental) and Violet Vasconcel(l)os Hi all, I have a scanned marriage certificate from Hawai'i from 1915. The mother of the groom's name is Innocentia Pereira __ it is the blank that I am having trouble with Mor_nha??? Could anyone help with the name or word at the end of her name. Thanks in advance and Blessed 2012, Howard Keith Pimental (de Vasconcelos) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 7:40 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records I have Compiled. Cheri Mello has the following from Sao Miguel island (need Excel to open): Achada marriages (1680 something - 1729) - 225 records Faial da Terra marriages (1696-1703) - 47 records Povoacao baptisms (1574-1640) - 37 records Povoacao marriages (1707; 1712) - 5 records Povoacao deaths (1591-1593) - 4 records Ribeira das Tainhas marriages (1885 - 1900) - 117 records Vila Franca baptisms (Sao Pedro church?) (1565-1599) Vila Franca baptisms (Sao Miguel Arcanjo church) (1560s to 1628) Vila Franca marriages (1576-1670) - 58 scattered records Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia
Margaret, It is so puzzling because I can’t find his or my grandmother on any of the ship lists. I can only think that the names were different on the ships. Well I’ll keep trying and see what I come up with. Thanks for the help, Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:18 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Gail, I searched through the 1883 passports out of S. Miguel and did not find your Caetano or his parents, sorry. If he exit the island in 1885 the records are not posted on the cca site, Wishing you and all in the group a Healthy and Happy New Year!!! Margaret On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Margaret, This is part of my tree for the de Souza family, I’m still entering in the children and the marriages . This might give you and the others what I have so far. These are additional notes that I have. Notes for Caitano de Souza aka Caitano de Souza Dias aka Quitao or Gaetano Souza 1900 Hawaii Federal Census, Hilo, Hawaii. Hawaii vol 4 page 63A. dob 1861. Married 17 yrs. Both parents born in Portugal. came to Hawaii in 1883. Laborer Widowed between 1900 census and remarried in 1901 1901 second marraige record: 44 yrs old, residing Wainaku Parents Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio 1910 Hawaii Federal Censu, North Hilo District, Hawaii. Hawaii pages 57B 58A, both parents born Azors, Portugal, Immigrated 1885 (???), Widowed. 1930 census son Joaquin said father born in California, I believe he moved to California with other children. Notes for Maria Ferreira 1890 Kingdom of Hawaii Census, Hilo, Hawaii district #4 Had 4 children, 3 living and listed 1900 census dob 1865, married 17 yrs Had 8 children, 6 living and listed, Both parents born in Portugal, came to Hawaii in 1883 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:04 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Gail, It may be coincidental but I have an ancestor from Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores who immigrated to the Sandwich Islands in 1883 and his family with him. Two (2) of the children were Maria. His name was Jose de Sousa Vaz Junior, wife Maria do Santo Cristo and their children were: Jose, Maria, Luisa and Manuel. He and Maria were both 37 years old and the children' ages were 12, 10, 7, 3 and 1 year old. It is very common to have more than one child with the same first name on the islands and it doesn't mean that one of them may have died. The church recorded first names only. Let me know if there's a connection and I'll send you what I have. Margaret Vicente On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: Wow, I never knew that or at least it wasn’t mentioned when I was there. My family is from Ribeira Grande. I will check it out! Thanks. Linda Borges Furtado Norton _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Koester Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Pasty; My ancestors are not from Sao Miguel but; I checked out this site for the fun of it. What a great site for those of you who can find your Sao Miguel ancestors there! Pictures and all… Wonderful. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Nostrome Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia I received a copy of the passport appeal which had to be done in the Azores before Jacinto Vieira Anselmo and family could leave Sao Miguel and go to the Hawaiian Kingdom to work. Apparently they had to describe the workers before the passport was issued by the local authorities to the Hawaiian ones. They have an emigration museum in the province Ribeira Grande on Sao Miguel. If you want to do a search the site é http: / / mea.cm-ribeiragrande.pt http://mea.cm-ribeiragrande.pt/ /. It doesn't have alot but will grow. I received this from the curator of the museum. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia
Margaret, This is part of my tree for the de Souza family, I’m still entering in the children and the marriages . This might give you and the others what I have so far. These are additional notes that I have. Notes for Caitano de Souza aka Caitano de Souza Dias aka Quitao or Gaetano Souza 1900 Hawaii Federal Census, Hilo, Hawaii. Hawaii vol 4 page 63A. dob 1861. Married 17 yrs. Both parents born in Portugal. came to Hawaii in 1883. Laborer Widowed between 1900 census and remarried in 1901 1901 second marraige record: 44 yrs old, residing Wainaku Parents Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio 1910 Hawaii Federal Censu, North Hilo District, Hawaii. Hawaii pages 57B 58A, both parents born Azors, Portugal, Immigrated 1885 (???), Widowed. 1930 census son Joaquin said father born in California, I believe he moved to California with other children. Notes for Maria Ferreira 1890 Kingdom of Hawaii Census, Hilo, Hawaii district #4 Had 4 children, 3 living and listed 1900 census dob 1865, married 17 yrs Had 8 children, 6 living and listed, Both parents born in Portugal, came to Hawaii in 1883 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:04 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Gail, It may be coincidental but I have an ancestor from Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores who immigrated to the Sandwich Islands in 1883 and his family with him. Two (2) of the children were Maria. His name was Jose de Sousa Vaz Junior, wife Maria do Santo Cristo and their children were: Jose, Maria, Luisa and Manuel. He and Maria were both 37 years old and the children' ages were 12, 10, 7, 3 and 1 year old. It is very common to have more than one child with the same first name on the islands and it doesn't mean that one of them may have died. The church recorded first names only. Let me know if there's a connection and I'll send you what I have. Margaret Vicente On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: Wow, I never knew that or at least it wasn’t mentioned when I was there. My family is from Ribeira Grande. I will check it out! Thanks. Linda Borges Furtado Norton _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Koester Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Pasty; My ancestors are not from Sao Miguel but; I checked out this site for the fun of it. What a great site for those of you who can find your Sao Miguel ancestors there! Pictures and all… Wonderful. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Nostrome Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia I received a copy of the passport appeal which had to be done in the Azores before Jacinto Vieira Anselmo and family could leave Sao Miguel and go to the Hawaiian Kingdom to work. Apparently they had to describe the workers before the passport was issued by the local authorities to the Hawaiian ones. They have an emigration museum in the province Ribeira Grande on Sao Miguel. If you want to do a search the site é http: / / mea.cm-ribeiragrande.pt http://mea.cm-ribeiragrande.pt/ /. It doesn't have alot but will grow. I received this from the curator of the museum. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia
Ava, This is so cool, finding about your family. Remember the saying you don't know who you are related too? It's going to take some time for me to find out where my grandparents came from. On the de Souza family his first name doesn't even show up on the ships list. I don't know if he went by another name. I don't know if he was married in Portugal or in Hawaii. His immigration was in 1883 and his marriage. It shows 2 girls by the name of Maria, one born in 1882 and one in 1883. I don't know if they are the same in one person or different. It showed my grandmother had 8 children and 6 was living but what I had is 7 if I include the 2 Marias. If they had two Maria's one could have died. I think there youngest child either died or moved with someone else. He was 4 years old in the 1900 census and doesn't appear in the 1910 census. A lot of groundwork on this one. I just wish I could spend more time with it. Pretty soon I'm going to be really busy and won't be able to do anything. I'm trying to find out as much as I can using whatever resources I have and probably make the trip to Honolulu to find the rest. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of netadosaco...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:27 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: cnsp...@aol.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Gail Patsy found our family's record of deportation from the FHS tape. There was a Passport of Appeals. On that record it said what city in Sao Miguel they lived. Also, she went through the Birth / Christening tape of the prox year that our grandfather's were to have been born and found my Grandfather's record. That was great as it confirmed who are great grandparents were and where they lived. AVA Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao Jorge -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia
I'll update whatever I have and send it to you after the first of the year, thanks for helping. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bellema...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:11 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Gail, My family had 4 Maria's. All survived. One went by the name Emma in the US, the other 3 by Maria so it is highly possible your 2 Maria's survived. If you will send me what you have, thus far, after the first of the year, I will try to help you with US records and possibly Passportes. I cannot help you with Azorean records. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia
Hi Shirley, Let me get whatever info I have and input it into my tree and the I'll send a copy, it is mostly that I need from my fathers side family, his mom and dad side. I'll try to do it tonight and get it to you. Thanks for the help. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:26 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Gail: At least you know that it is Sao Miguel. I have a gazillion people from Sao Miguel island. Who are you looking for? I might have them in my database. I need names, dates, where? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Locating the village or freguesia Repost for Gail, gelizares at hawaii.rr.com Any pointers on how to find out where my great grandparents came from. On all the documents so far that I found it just says Azores or Sao Miguel. Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records I have Compiled.
Don't ask me how but I ended up with Dias as my maiden name from de Souza. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Couto Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:47 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records I have Compiled. Dear Rick, Thanks for the comments. I don't know why I didn't see Dias. It's so obvious now. I did not receive any charts. How were they sent? Possibly an email message never got through to me. I checked my spam folder, but nothing there. Anyway, I really look forward to seeing them. Thanks again. All best, Nancy On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Nancy, See my comments below also did you check the charts I sent? They take both lines back further. I have found the birth of Jacinto and am still working on the record it is also hard to read. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Couto Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:58 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records I have Compiled. Dear Rick, Thank you, thank you. Yes, the record is difficult to read, but I've been poring over it. Looks to me as if Amalia's parents were naturals of Nossa Senhora da Estrella in Ribeira Grande. [RFP] Yes. I'm so happy to have her grandparents names, which I had not known. I get the following: Paternal: Manoel Cabral and Roza Joaquianna (not sure about the last part)[RFP]Manuel Cabrel Rosa Joaquina Maternal: Jose Dinis and Roza de Jesus[RFP] Jose Dias Rosa de Jesus I'm not sure about Dinis. I think it's a D, but if it's a P it could be Paiva. I'll look at it again later and see if it becomes clearer. The date is giving me difficulty, though. I'm reading fifth day of the month of February of eighteen hundred and--and here is where I get confused. It has to be quarenta or cinquenta, but I can't make out a q in the word.. [RFP] Born 5 Feb 1852 Baptized 23 Feb 1852 Your title for the photo shows the year to be 1847,[RFP] The book starts in 1847 this record was on the last page which is 1852. but that would make her 26 rather than 25 [RFP] Yes records do have errors at the time of her marriage in 1873. Could the year possibly be cincuenta e dois? Is fifty ever spelled that way? According to her gravestone, she was born in 1852, but that doesn't mean anything. Anyway, I'll give it a rest for now and then look at it later. In the meantime, it's great to have the names (sort of) of my new randparents. Thanks again for all your help with this. Nancy On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Nancy Here is the Baptism Record of Amelia. It is the record on the left. Not the best copy but readable. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Couto Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 11:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records I have Compiled. Dear Rick, Thank you so much. This is great information! Amalia (or Amelia--she seems to have used both names in various U.S. records) was obviously older than I thought she was. I'm so glad that I finally know where she was born. I can't believe you found this information so quickly. I really appreciate this. All best, Nancy Sent from my iPad On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Nancy I think you will find this useful the actual record was very hard to read on the film but I was able to make the connections. They were married 26 May 1873 in Ribeirinha Santissimo Salvador Church. Jacinto Vieira age 33, son of Francisco Vieira and Margarida de Jesus baptized in Santissimo Salvador Parish. Amelia da Estrella age 25, daughter of Jose Cabrel de Mello and Margarida Rosa also baptized in Santissimo Salvador. I will try and look up their births tomorrow. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal
Merry Christmas to you all from Hawaii and I hope we can uncover more of our ancestors when the 1940 census is out in 2012. Have a save New Year and God Bless you all! From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of silva...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 6:37 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal to You and Yours.Diana Silva _ Natal Boas Festas e Feliz Ano Novo to all of you and your families! João Ventura Terceira From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:01 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal to everyone on this list! For those who would like to send their Christmas greetings to the list, please hit reply to this message (so everything stays threaded together) and type away. Please don't send your greetings after 11:59 pm on Dec. 25th. Thanks! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records
Aloha Eric, I just put on find a grave where the location of the two graves are. The names are Alfred Moniz Lindinha and Joseph Moniz Lindinha with my Aunty Rosalina Lindinha. I'm just waiting for someone to take a picture for me. I'm praying there is a photo on because we have never seen my Aunty. So who ever gets there first I would really appreciate the photo of the grave. Everyone as we say in Hawaii Mele Kalikimaka and Happy New Year. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gomes.ances...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:16 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Just read this thread... I am very familiar with St. Mary's. I found a lost set of great grandparents there. If you need any help or a second set of eyes looking for the grave site. Let me know. The office staff at the cemetery is very helpful. Next week is my genealogy week, I will be researching for at least two or three days next week. Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Hi: The BORBA line is on my brother-in-law's mother. This is what I have: Bernice Borba DOB 2 Feb 1919, (I think the Borba's had a dairy near Irvington, CA) DODeath:19 Oct 1975, Fallon, Nevada Bernice was the daughter of Antonio M. Borba DOB 12 Nov 1885 DOD 9 Apr 1960 SPOUSE Rose F. Borba DOB 16 Oct 1894 DOD 8 Dec 1941 I am guessing that all of these events took place in California. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Adair Borba mailto:adair1...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Shirley, This attachment is not updated but may give you a hint if you think your family links. What can you tell me about your Borba link? _ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. _ Adair On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Shirley Allegre wrote: Which Borba line are you searching for in CA? My brother-in-law's mother was a Borba from CA. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Adair Borba mailto:adair1...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Eric, I am still having trouble tracing the Borba line in California. I can't believe with all those kids that they produced only three children. Perhaps the obits would help me...where do you search normally for obits? Adair On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:57 PM, eric edgar wrote: Did you see my message with the obit? Eric Edgar On Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM, geliza...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Sorry Cheri, I'm always rushing and not very clear. Let me start from the beginning. My grandfathers sister Rosaline de Souza born in 1895 in Hawaii married Joe Moniz Lindinha who was born in 1891 or 1889 in Hawaii also. They married in Hawaii and had 3 children Alfred (1916), Mary (1919) and Adelina (1920) all born in Hawaii. On July 28, 1923 they all moved to California. The only thing that I have since found is Joe died on 09-08-65 and his son died on 02/06/43 in Alameda County California. I don't know if anyone one of them married and had children, so that is why I'm asking any suggestions on what I should do next. Thanks, Gail Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gail, I'm not clear on your time line. Rosaline marries Joe and they have a son. 26 years after that son's death, they have 2 daughters. But you don't know if Rosaline married Joe? But then you state that they moved with 3 children. But that doesn't make sense because you said their son died at 26 and they had 2 daughters. So these 2 little girls could not have known their big brother. I'd wait for the death certificates to come to see if it sheds any light on your problem. Depending on when Joe died, that death certificate may state the years of his marriage. It it was 30 years, then you can subtract 30 and get the approximate year of his marriage. You may have family stories that suggest either CA or HI as possible marriage locations. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA Birth/Death Costs going UP!
I have ordered several informational copies of the death certificates from Alameda County and it is like the original certificate and the mother's maiden name is on, the only difference is you can't use it for identification purposes. I need to order my Aunties one soon. Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rcap...@redshift.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 8:39 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA Birth/Death Costs going UP! Dear Listers, According to the Monterey County Gen. Soc newsletter, JanFeb 2012, there is a bill before the Assembly, AB1053 which will raise the cost of Birth Death records in California $9 more dollars. I you need to order any Birth/Death records you need to do it next week or pay another $9 on top of whatever your County charges or the State charges!! According to Janel Davidson, who wrote the article, if you want a certified copy you need to go in person or have your mail-in application notarized. Otherwise, you will get an INFORMATIONAL copy, not valid to establish idendity. The only bad thing is that on the informational copy the mother's maiden name MAY be blocked out! For more info about where the bill stands go to: www.leginfo.ca.gov/bilinfo.html Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!!
Do you have any info such as a census to where they were living? Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! Good Luck. I sure would like to find my paternal grandmother's birth info . She was born in either 1885 or 1886. But, I don't know which island. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A Great Find!! I just wrote a letter to our bishop about starting an archives. Since the State of Hawaii have records only from certain dates we have to rely on the churches to get birth and marraige records. I do agree with you they are not to cooperative and they want to charge by the hour to find a record. I told one lady if I knew when they got married I wouldn't be asking. They have a wealth of info which I wish they would share. Gail Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com wrote: Hi Tish, I have gone to the Menlo Park Archives a coupe of times and I have only looked at the Mission San Jose (St Joseph's) records. They ARE there and you will have no luck (probably) if you try to deal with the parish directly. They are not very cooperative and what really surprises me is that they don't seem to tell people that the records can be accessed in Menlo Park. I was able to take pictures with my digital camera of the reader and mine did come out pretty well. I know Kathy Cardoza has also done this with success. You will have to do the looking yourself, at least we did. I am not aware of any of their records on familysearch.org but I could be wrong on that. A lot of people mix up the Mission San Jose records thinking that they are in the city of San Jose, CA but the Mission of Mission San Jose is located in the Mission San Jose area of what is now the city of Fremont...so all of that area is in the Menlo Park Archives. PRIMA ROESMARIE..CONGRATULATIONSa wonderful Christmas present!! I hope I am not double posting here.I still get so confused with Google Groups:) On Dec 20, 10:06 am, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rosemarie, I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other two siblings. I'm very happy for you find, Tish On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Dear Listers, Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time! Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport, her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee Teves. Adriana Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing Joseph's family but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we were finally making it to the Archives this year!! I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in the same church as my Maria, TO Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the parent's names so I know it's my Maria. Marie moved back east right after her marriage, had 3 children and died of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone?? Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept proding me to go and search. Merry Christmas to you all, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lopes, Amaral, Madruga from Faial and Gloucester, Massachusetts
My great grandmother was a Amaral, I don't know much about her family yet. Gail -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eminniel Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 12:03 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lopes, Amaral, Madruga from Faial and Gloucester, Massachusetts On 12/23/2011 3:23 PM, Shirley Allegre wrote: If you would send me some info re: names, dates, anything. I might be able to help you. My mother-inlaw's AMARAL line is from Faial. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lopes, Amaral, Madruga from Faial and Gloucester, Massachusetts Repost for Eleanor, eminniel at comcast.net Rick, Thanks so much for the advice. Hopefully somewhere in all the records a village is mentioned. I have all the dates of arrival for both grandparents Lopez and Madruga. I have their original marriage certificate and his original naturalization papers. All records only state St. Fayal no village. The 1910 Federal Census for Phillipa Cardoza Madruga states birth place as Atlantic Island, Azores. All the children for Manuel Madruga and Phillipa were born in the US. All the Lopez's were born in St. Fayal and became naturalized citizens. Dimingo Lopez came from Spain but move to the Azores when he married his first wife. She died in child birth. Their two sons remained in the Azores. All the children from his marriage to Florinda were born in St. Fayal. They arrived in the US in 1884 with their eight children. A relative told me they came to the US because they hoped to avoid the draft in Portugal because they had seven boys. I have their records and a lot of stories from my grandfather. He lived to be 106. My father died very young and my grandparents helped raise my brother and myself. My mother gave me all the records before she died. I have been searching for months but cannot find anything else. I guess I need to return to Massachusetts this summer and try he check records from East Cambridge and Gloucester. I am sure the spelling of the surnames are correct. I remember my grandfather telling me his middle name was Rodriquez but at Ellis Island they changed it to Roger. I am going to review all the records I have and hopefully a village is mentioned, The website Family Search has a wealth of info and it is all free no membership, etc. Their records are very accurate. I have been researching St. Fayal. I am seriously thinking for traveling there sometime next year as finding my roots on both sides is very important. It's top priority on my bucket list. I am happy I found this group. Thanks again Eleanor Shirley, Thanks so much for responding to my email. Dimingo Lopez was born in Spain in 1848. Florinda Amaral was born in the Azores in 1861. They were married in St. Fayal in 1879. They came to the United States in 1894. There children were all born in St. Fayal (Faial). Florinda was Dimingo's second wife. His first wife died at 16 and their two sons remained in St. Fayal. Their children were: Felisberto 1881, James 1883, Joseph 1884, Josephine 1887, Emiel 1887, Anthony 1888, Americo 1889 and Manuel 1892. They lived in East Cambridge, Mass. until 1906. Then moved to Arlington, Mass. East Cambridge still has a large population of people from the Azores. There is a possibility that Florinda might be buried in Cambridge. There children all became naturalized citizens. I was told they left the Azores because the boys would have to serve in the Army. None of the brothers served in WW1. All all must have been deferred. Their occupations were Iron Workers and Fisherman accept for Felisberto and Anthony. Felisberto (known as Felix) was Captain of the Arlington Police Department and Anthony was Captain of the Fire Department. I have more dates regarding the brother's and sister but nothing else regarding Florinda or Dimingo. My mother's side of the family is very large. She had 72 first cousins. As a child I went to a lot of the festivals in East Cambridge, Gloucester and New Bedford. My grandfather had relatives in New Bedford. One of them was actually a professional Santa Clause. Eleanor -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records
Theresa, thank you so much for offering to do that for me. Should I still contact the cemetery to find out where the grave is? Let me know what to do and I'll give them a call. Thanks again. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Comcast Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:45 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Gail I just sent u an email saying I would b willing to go to the cemetery and take the picture for u. I do take pictures for findagrave.com Theresa Aguiar Court Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gail, Before you contact the cemetery office for a picture, I'd check to see if someone has created a memorial for them on Find A Grave. If not, then you can create a memorial and then call the cemetery office to verify that the graves are marked. If they are marked, then click the Request a Photo button on the memorial and a Find A Grave volunteer in the area will take a photo for you for free. www.findagrave.com Cheri Mello Also a Find A Grave volunteer Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records
Theresa Robin, I did put all the info I do have on find a grave and requested a photo. I did call St. Mary's and got the exact location of the grave and entered that on the find a grave. Thanks again for offering to take a picture. Gail Elizares From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gail Elizares Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:09 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Theresa, thank you so much for offering to do that for me. Should I still contact the cemetery to find out where the grave is? Let me know what to do and I'll give them a call. Thanks again. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Comcast Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:45 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records Gail I just sent u an email saying I would b willing to go to the cemetery and take the picture for u. I do take pictures for findagrave.com Theresa Aguiar Court Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gail, Before you contact the cemetery office for a picture, I'd check to see if someone has created a memorial for them on Find A Grave. If not, then you can create a memorial and then call the cemetery office to verify that the graves are marked. If they are marked, then click the Request a Photo button on the memorial and a Find A Grave volunteer in the area will take a photo for you for free. www.findagrave.com Cheri Mello Also a Find A Grave volunteer Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records
What is the best method to finding marriage records? I have family from Hawaii that moved to California, my Aunty Rosaline married a Joe Moniz Lindinha. Their son died about 26 years old and they had two daughters. I have no idea where to start to see if they got married. Any suggestions? I know they both moved with their 3 children to California about 1923. I have been trying to see if I could find them in the 1930 census but couldn't. I just ordered Uncle Joe and his son's death certificates from Alameda County, but still couldn't find my aunties. Any tips you can give me would be appreciated. Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question
I’m having a hard time finding my grandfather and grandmother on a passport or ship list. They came from Sao Miguel and their names are Quitao de Souza aka Caitano Souza, and his wife was Maria Ferreira Souza. I do know they came to Hawaii in 1883. I’m still trying to find if their names are on the ship list. Gail Souza Dias Elizares From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonia Pacheco Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:54 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question Please reply directly to me, thank you. I am currently doing some research on illegal emigration from Portugal to the United States during the time period (roughly) between 1890-1910. If you had a relative who emigrated during this time period and you have either their passport but not their name on a passenger list OR you have found their name on a passenger list but have not found their passport, can you please email me directly? I am only trying to compile some rough numbers regarding how many people may have travailed illegally from Portugal to the United States. My research has shown, so far, that many individuals were not aware that they were even traveling illegally or that they were aiding illegal travel! Thanks in advance, Sonia Sónia Pacheco Librarian Archivist Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives Claire T. Carney Library University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 285 Old Westport Road N. Dartmouth, MA 02747 Tel. 508-999-8695 Fax 508-999-8424 Email spach...@umassd.edu Web site: http://www.lib.umassd.edu/archives/Archives.html -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Is anyone familiar with the website geneAll.net? I think I found my great grandparents but I'm quite confused on the dates. Sometimes my Google translator isn't translating. The Portuguese Genealogy of Oahu told me my great great grandparents are Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio. On the website I did find a Jose de Souza and a Maria Ignacia. It seems their son also Jose de Souza married Maria Jose. They have a date 11-25-1811 and Alcobaca, Alpedriz. Next to father Jose de Souza they have Mouraria + 1811. My great grandfather Caitano de Souza was born around 1860, which I believe Jose Jr could be his brother. Anyway can someone look it up and shed some light for me? The dates doesn't seem to jive. Gail -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Find my sisters burial records
Gosh, I'm learning a lot about Portugal thanks to all of you. So, if you purchase the land, you still have to pay to upkeep it? What is a common grave? Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:47 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Find my sisters burial records Hi, There is only one Cemetery in Rabo de Peixe. Nowadays the minimum time a corps is interred is 5 years. If you want to keep the corps there you have to buy the land of the grave. Then you may put as many corps as you want in your land under the rule of the minimum 5 years. The burial records must be at the Registo Civil of Ribeira Grande. Eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Find my sisters burial records
Eliseu, Thanks for the info, it is quite interesting. I never knew that type of thing existed, I’m so use to having catholic cemeteries and other cemeteries in Hawaii. I’m keeping all of this info to someday put in my family tree book. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:08 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Find my sisters burial records Gail, At the cemetery you buy the land. After that you have a property certificate like when you buy a house. After that if you want to build something there you have to pay a new fee. No one takes care of the grave or mausoleum you built there unless you have someone to take care of it. If a corps is buried in the earth it must stay there at least for 5 years. Only after that you may put another corps in the same grave. Of course if you build a mausoleum you may put more coffins (lead urns) there. Usually people buy the land to build some kind of memorial and to be buried in the same land as his/her mother (for example) was buried… Nowadays, there are no private cemeteries (may be very special cases or old ones). In Ponta Delgada we have two cemeteries: The Cemitério de S. Joaquim (the so called public cemetery) and the Cemitério dos Ingleses (English Cemetery) which is no longer used because everybody has to be buried at the so called public cemetery by force of law. The designation comes from the time when people was buried in the churches. At that time you had Catholic burials, Protestant burials (first law was in 1805 but only in 1835 the burial outside the churches started… in some places only ended about 1920’s). (I heard that the Jewish people were buried in the beaches… not sure of!!) eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses?
Helen, I never did see rosettes being made, all we did was the malasadas. I come from the Big Island of Hawaii (different island from Oahu) and malasadas is a big thing whenever there are fundraisers especially the Catholic churches. There is one Drive Inn in Honokaa, HI that makes and sells good malasadas. They even sell a small pack of ingredients and instructions to make them. My expertise is stone oven bread. I make Portuguese white bread and sweet bread. For taste you can’t beat the stone oven. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of helen kerner Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:07 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Below is a link showing the iron that my Mom used to make the rosettes. Be sure to view all the pages for a better view of the process. http://scandinavianfood.about.com/od/cookingtechniques/ss/rosettesbs.htm _ From: Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, August 14, 2011 6:24:24 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Thanks, Margaret! Do you know of a specific dough cutting implement (perhaps similar to a cookie cutter) that's used to create specific shape? Are there a certain number of flower-petals, or is the item circular, perhaps with a scalloped edge? If someone can have better luck finding an image online of either Rosas do Egipto or the cutting implement, I'd be most grateful, because it's hard for me to translate something I can't picture ! Katharine. P.S. (below) Olá, Helen! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses?
Aloha Karen, This is what I make my sweet bread with; 10# flour 18 eggs beaten, I add a little yellow food coloring (the old days they use only the yolk but now can’t afford to throw the rest away) 1 to 2 tsp. vanilla extract (my family doesn’t care too much for extract because of heartburn so I cut it down) 4 cans carnation milk 4 cans water (using the carnation milk cans) 2 sticks butter Crisco 1 block butter 3 sets of yeast 4 ½ cups sugar 1 tsp salt (Optional) I don’t add in mines (I know the old Portuguese would scream at me for not adding but I found no difference) Raisins (Optional) Add sugar to the flour Empty packets of yeast with 1 tsp sugar and 1 cup warm water Melt on low fire butter Crisco and butter with the carnation milk (when it is done I add 4 cans of cold water to cool off) Add yeast mixture and butter mixture to flour and mix. I’ve had to change my recipe around using the stone oven. I have a mixer so I usually add a little flour as it’s mixing. Once the dough stops sticking to the side it is done. You might have to experiment because weather makes a difference on the dough too. So experiment and make your own adjustments. If using a mixer add raisins and hand fold in so it doesn’t smash. You would baste the bread right before going in the oven with beaten eggs. With the stone oven I can use only the egg whites so it doesn’t get to dark and hard. In the regular oven I use to mix 1 or 1 eggs and add little carnation cream. Again that is to your liking. Some people like the more crunchy so you would add the carnation cream. I was raised when it was Easter we would fold in a egg with the shell into the dough and bake it. If I have time later I will find the picture with my bread in the stone oven Good Luck, Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Boggs Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:55 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? there is two small bakeries in Maui that also makes Malasadas that are very good. The one up country Maui is ran by Japanese and I don't know how they started making them but they open at 6:30 a.m. and they are sold out of Malasadas by 8:00 a.m. The other is in Wailuku, Maui and they make them fresh all day long. My great-grandmother made the Portuguese white bread and sweet bread from a stone oven. Gail My whole family would love to have the recipe for the sweet bread if you would like to share. I am looking for a place to get some for our family reunion Sept. 4th. Does anyone know a place near Lodi, California? My great grandparents came to Hawaii in 1906 to the Big Island. My grandmother was born in Haukula in 1908. They came to the mainland in 1913. _ From: Gail Elizares geliza...@hawaii.rr.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 8:13:58 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Helen, I never did see rosettes being made, all we did was the malasadas. I come from the Big Island of Hawaii (different island from Oahu) and malasadas is a big thing whenever there are fundraisers especially the Catholic churches. There is one Drive Inn in Honokaa, HI that makes and sells good malasadas. They even sell a small pack of ingredients and instructions to make them. My expertise is stone oven bread. I make Portuguese white bread and sweet bread. For taste you can’t beat the stone oven. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of helen kerner Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:07 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Below is a link showing the iron that my Mom used to make the rosettes. Be sure to view all the pages for a better view of the process. http://scandinavianfood.about.com/od/cookingtechniques/ss/rosettesbs.htm _ From: Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, August 14, 2011 6:24:24 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Thanks, Margaret! Do you know of a specific dough cutting implement (perhaps similar to a cookie cutter) that's used to create specific shape? Are there a certain number of flower-petals, or is the item circular, perhaps with a scalloped edge? If someone can have better luck finding an image online of either Rosas do Egipto or the cutting implement, I'd be most grateful, because it's hard for me to translate something I can't picture ! Katharine. P.S. (below) Olá, Helen! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses?
Aloha Everyone, I’m from Hawaii, and we were raised making malasadas on the Tuesday before Ash Wednesday, also known as “Fat Tuesday”. Gail From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Debra Wolgemuth Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:57 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Katherine, My relatives from Flores always had a FILHOS FEAST on Ash Wednesday. We'd meet at the family ranch, have filhos hot out of the frying pan...drizzled with butter, then ate with either jam or a dusting of sugar and a slice of cheddar cheese. It's a tradition that I've continued making for my family, but they don't get excited about them like I do. Actually they call them lead hockey pucks...more for me...LOL! I make a huge batch and freeze the majority of what we don't eat. When I want a filhos for breakfast, I take one out of the freezer, microwave it a bit (experiment with your microwave and start at 20 second intervals so you don't over cook it), then add butter and your favorite topping. They taste greasy and hot, just like Ava and Granny Marie made them on Ash Wednesday! Last year I broke my wrist and was unable to make (knead the dough) for my annual filhos feast. Someone recommended the Portuguese Bakery, 2082 El Camino Real, Santa Clara, CA 408-984-2234. I ordered several dozen and they arrived the next week. They went into the freezer and we enjoyed them for several weeks. Their website says that they make daily filhos, but people recommend arriving at 9 am to get fresh ones...they tend to sell out quickly. They also sell 9 flavors of biscoitos, sweet bread, lemony rice pudding, and on the last Saturday of the month serve sopas (pot roast cabbage over bread with mint). If you live in the Bay Area, check them out! Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:44:23 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? From: katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Obrigada, Gayle! It sounds rather like the Portuguese recipe above. Does your cookbook mention anything about oleo (frying in oil)? To me they sound sort of like the pre-Lenten treats called filhós or malassadas, dependking on the part of the Azores one's in. The strange thing is that the novel I'm translating mentions them being made for feeding folks doing a matança (ritual hog-killing) in Nordeste, São Miguel, during Advent (pre-Xmas), not Lent. Somehow I had the impression that traditionally filhós or malassadas weren't made other times of year. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate learning more. Katharine. = = = = = = = = = = Rosas do Egito, by Ana Maria Albuquerque Taveira (who's had recipes online for over a decade in various formats -- I first encountered her on a Geocities website ca. 2000): http://cybercook.terra.com.br/rosas-do-egito-ii-na-comunidade.html?codigo=14 468 Ingredientes - 500 g de farinha - açúcar a gosto - raspas de 1 limão - leite o suficiente Modo de Preparo Misture bem todos os ingredientes da massa, adicionando o leite até o ponto da massa. Numa panela, aqueça o óleo até ferver. Depois, coloque a forma de rosa dentro para aquecer bem. Em seguida, mergulhe a forma na massa e retorne ao óleo, deixando fritar até a massa soltar da forma. Coloque numa travessa e polvilhe com canela e açúcar. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
