Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
--- On Fri, 12/31/10, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John jr_...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 12:20 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip John, I am quite familiar with orthodox Christians' view of Christianity. If you would like to familiarize yourself with mine, I'd suggest you read Freke Gandy's The Jesus Mysteries: Was the 'Original Jesus' a Pagan God? for a glimpse at Christianity's powerful Archetypal underpinnings, followed by Joseph Atwill's Caesar's Messiah for a look at the possible political motivations behind the creation of a historical Jesus, and then we'll talk. The titles look interesting. We'll revisit this theme when the discussion comes up again. In the meantime, I'll look for them. Thanks. I'd also strongly recommend the book emptybill cited, Hyam Maccoby's The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity. It's an eye-opener, whether or not you buy all his arguments, and it's a terrific read. Judy, this book looks controversial by its title. The subject has been addressed before. The question remains: If St. Paul made up his story, why would he die for it? Great comment, John! We make up a lot of crap, but to gladly die for it? All I know is that around 2000 years ago some guy walking around in a human body woke up to something HUGE and it's still there today underneath a lot of conceptual garbage. Whether his name was Bob, Frank or Rory, I don't know, nor does it matter. He was a very special and dear doorway into the Big Mystery, for lack of any other term, of existence. Still there, right now, always loving, always inviting, always giving. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Rainy Early Morning
I began this around 2 AM on the 29th. Its finished now around the same time, though it isn't raining this morning - Its so quiet in the neighborhood now - Happy early New Year's Eve! Rainy Early Morning http://www.box.net/shared/ttz7y8g7bb All Music Copyright Temple Dog and Jim Flanegin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: Maharishi's darkness, draining student's consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Autobiography of a Vagi? The Way of the Vaj I. Your follow up book could be: Inner Secrets of the Vaj Or maybe The Vaj Monologues What about The Vajina Monologues :-)
[FairfieldLife] Rob Cox
Good morning! Does anyone know the status of Rob Cox these days? On the final event website he mentions that he does not think he will be here on the earth in a body too much longer just wondering. Thank-you for your attention, Vicki Crocco
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking a mini miracle-sheepskin
Invoking the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature: http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/p/divine-intervention.html All Blessings of All Possibilities, -Buck in FF And maybe for purposes of consideration let's consider a Jeffersonian Jesus, i.e. no miracles. I'd welcome a reply from anyone. meowthirteen@ wrote: Instead of debating miricles or not, I seek them. namaste -M Thanks Meow, aren't they wonderful as they happen. Yep, the world is a miraculous place if you got eyes for it. All Blessings, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
Er, Peter, Maccoby's book doesn't suggest that Jesus never existed, or even that he wasn't a great big deal. He's not saying Paul invented Jesus but that he invented *Christianity* as it has come down to us. When you jump into a thread without having read the other posts, you're likely to make embarrassing mistakes, as you have here. (Be interesting to see whether John clues you in, or just lets you continue to look like a fool.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: --- On Fri, 12/31/10, John jr_...@... wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I'd also strongly recommend the book emptybill cited, Hyam Maccoby's The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity. It's an eye-opener, whether or not you buy all his arguments, and it's a terrific read. Judy, this book looks controversial by its title. The subject has been addressed before. The question remains: If St. Paul made up his story, why would he die for it? Great comment, John! We make up a lot of crap, but to gladly die for it? All I know is that around 2000 years ago some guy walking around in a human body woke up to something HUGE and it's still there today underneath a lot of conceptual garbage. Whether his name was Bob, Frank or Rory, I don't know, nor does it matter. He was a very special and dear doorway into the Big Mystery, for lack of any other term, of existence. Still there, right now, always loving, always inviting, always giving.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century
yifuxero: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century Apparently Jyotirmath originated from Adi Sankaracarya himself, who established there the northern branch of the Amnaya Dasanami Sampradaya. According to the Saraswati tradition of Shankaracharya, the Adi Shankara came to Jyotirmath from Karnataka. Sankara then designated Trotaka as the Shankaracharya of the North. So, it should be obvious to everyone that Guru Dev designated his successor in the Saraswati lineage of the Adi. According to Professor Sawyer, the will of SBS designated Swami Shantanand Saraswati to succeed SBS on the gaddi at Jyotirmath. The event was widely reported in the Indian newspapers. An installation was performed with all due pomp and ceremony at Banares, and with all the learned pundits in attendance, as reported in The Times of India and in The Hindu. According to V. Sundaresan, Swami Vasudevanand of Jyotirmath is the sole representative of this lineage, that is, the lineage of Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. All of the others have gone over to other saints, e.g. Svarupanand, Prakashanand, etc. etc. Read more: http://indology.info/papers/sundaresan/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rob Cox
I was just thinking about Rob yesterday! Vicki, I don't have a clue. I wish I did. --- On Fri, 12/31/10, vickicrocco2001 dvcro...@comcast.net wrote: From: vickicrocco2001 dvcro...@comcast.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rob Cox To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 7:47 AM Good morning! Does anyone know the status of Rob Cox these days? On the final event website he mentions that he does not think he will be here on the earth in a body too much longer just wondering. Thank-you for your attention, Vicki Crocco To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: Maharishi's darkness, draining student's consciousness
--- On Fri, 12/31/10, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: Maharishi's darkness, draining student's consciousness To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 7:45 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Autobiography of a Vagi? The Way of the Vaj I. Your follow up book could be: Inner Secrets of the Vaj Or maybe The Vaj Monologues What about The Vajina Monologues :-) Ha ha! Excellent, Nabs! To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Deva Surfing the Himalayas
merudanda: Turques B -Uncle Tantra- Rama style? eh
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century
What a mess! --- On Fri, 12/31/10, WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com wrote: From: WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 9:40 AM yifuxero: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century Apparently Jyotirmath originated from Adi Sankaracarya himself, who established there the northern branch of the Amnaya Dasanami Sampradaya. According to the Saraswati tradition of Shankaracharya, the Adi Shankara came to Jyotirmath from Karnataka. Sankara then designated Trotaka as the Shankaracharya of the North. So, it should be obvious to everyone that Guru Dev designated his successor in the Saraswati lineage of the Adi. According to Professor Sawyer, the will of SBS designated Swami Shantanand Saraswati to succeed SBS on the gaddi at Jyotirmath. The event was widely reported in the Indian newspapers. An installation was performed with all due pomp and ceremony at Banares, and with all the learned pundits in attendance, as reported in The Times of India and in The Hindu. According to V. Sundaresan, Swami Vasudevanand of Jyotirmath is the sole representative of this lineage, that is, the lineage of Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. All of the others have gone over to other saints, e.g. Svarupanand, Prakashanand, etc. etc. Read more: http://indology.info/papers/sundaresan/ To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking a mini miracle-sheepskin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: I used to meditate on one of those until I ritamed the sheep's death in a slaughter house. Very unpleasant experience for the poor sheep. Now I sit on silk.worm gunk. I sit on my ass. More gunk. --- On Thu, 12/30/10, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@... Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: seeking a mini miracle-sheepskin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 5:47 PM Here in FF, and can be ordered online: http://overland.com/Products/Rugs---Car-Seat-Covers-1156/Rugs,-Pelts---Cowhides-1200/Sheepskin-Rugs-1157/Browse.aspx or goo.gl/JFogz
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shani Claus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: So, why do you call Her Magdalene? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: I have called her Magdalene as that was apparently a traditional name or title given to the Daughter as soul-mate or partner of the male Christos or Son in some Gnostic circles. Strictly speaking, Magdalene probably comes from Migdal meaning tower, and more accurately refers to the tenth or tithing Aeon or Apostle of the Left Heart (Taurus) we call the Red-Orange High Priestess, the Rosy Lover who surrenders to the Perfection of All and receives and maintains the Treasure-Tower of perfections: Siddhartha. In the West all the Aeons or Apostles were masculinized, and this Tower-Keeper or tither was called Matthew the tax-collector. But then, in the West, many of the attributes of the High Priestess's partner, the triune Green Priest of the Right Heart (Libra), the one who sits at the right hand of the Lord upon the Dharma-Throne of mercy and holds the scales of judgment, have been attributed to the Son. In our play, a better name for the Daughter would be WOHE, the Ascending One, with the appropriate mantra suffixed to denote the specific Aeon through which She is playing: For the past 2000 years, WOHE-SHWA, loosely translated as She who Ascends through Salvation or Forgiveness -- as her soul-mate the Piscean Son, has been known as YAHU-SHWA: He who Descends through Salvation or Forgiveness. *** And in the East, She who Ascends in (9) stages of increasing light from the Loving Mother-Goddess (beneath our feet) to the Blissful Father-God (above our head), is commonly known as Kundalini. As reflected and played out in our annual drama, this ascent begins at the Winter Solstice and culminates a half-year from now at the Summer Solstice. But these seasons are like the numbers on a clock-face, and there is more than one hand on the clock. The full ascent also occurs every month, every day, and really every nanosecond.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: Maharishi's darkness, draining student's consciousness
On Dec 29, 2010, at 7:53 PM, tartbrain wrote: Oneness never lies. Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Even if you're at one with SATAN? :-) sparaig lengli...@... wrote: Actually, my recollection is that even using Satan as one's Ishta-devata would eventually lead one to full enlightenment. Which would explain why he tries to betray his followers whenever possible: he doesn't want them to gain enlightenment by following the path of devotion (even of him) so he betrays them so they will turn away before they gain benefit from their one-pointedness. Just a thought. There may be some allegorical nuggets for TM buried there somewhere, come to think of it. *** An interesting take on it, Lawson. My feeling is that Satan is merely Saturn seen through the eyes of the addict, who roundly curses and demonizes the healer who is trying to remove his addictions and suffering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Josephus and his school were the ones who wrote the gospels and created the historical Jesus as a Roman state religion for the Flavians to counteract the Jewish problem, if Joseph Atwill (Caesar's Messiah) is correct. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Theological research shows that most of the apostles were uneducated fishermen from Galilee, with the exception of St. Luke, who was a physician, and St. Paul, who was a former Pharisee. It is generally accepted that the disciples of the apostles wrote the gospels decades after the death of Jesus. In effect, the apostles and the early Christian followers were the first hand witnesses. Thus, the historical accounts came from these sources. But there is a strong argument that St. Luke wrote his own gospel based on his actual witness account. St. Paul did not actually see Jesus when he was alive. But he was learned in the Jewish tradition. He was also a Roman citizen. Thus, he understood the meaning of Jesus' message and synthesized the teachings in universal terms to appeal to Gentiles as well as the Jewish community. Roughly parallel to MMY perhaps. He understood the meaning, the essence, of SBS's view and as he gained greater familiarity with the west, he synthesized the teachings in universal ways to appeal to secular, material westerners as well as (some of) the hindu community. A delicate balancing act indeed. These synthesis and fusion approaches are always subject to criticism among both sides: some in traditional hundu / yogic community feel its too watered down, some secular westerners feel that its to religious. And yet, it opened the door for many who would not have gone down the path of a less secular more traditional practice. (SSRS has moved the ball back towards the traditional while being quite western in terms of organization and presentation. (Though I think that many secular westerners who easily took up TM would not go for an AoL course.) Paul was criticized by the traditional jewish community for being at odds with much jewish tradition, and some gentiles thought it too jewish. But in same way, he opened the door for many who would not have entered, o could not enter, the tradional jewish gateway. John, I am quite familiar with orthodox Christians' view of Christianity. If you would like to familiarize yourself with mine, I'd suggest you read Freke Gandy's The Jesus Mysteries: Was the 'Original Jesus' a Pagan God? for a glimpse at Christianity's powerful Archetypal underpinnings, followed by Joseph Atwill's Caesar's Messiah for a look at the possible political motivations behind the creation of a historical Jesus, and then we'll talk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
emptybill: ...Paul's view of women, though inconsistent, reflects his Gnosticism in its misogynist aspects. If Paul had been a Gnostic, then we could infer that somehow some Pagan Gnostic notions got inside the Judaism of the times - not very likely, since the theology of Judaism does not support polytheism in any way. And, not all Gnostics were misogynist - many of the Gnostic texts cited by Dan Brown indicate that many Gnostics may have supported a feminine theology, which is the main hypothesis of the 'Da Vinci Code'. Most historians accept the Markan document as the earliest known Gospel, which was apparently set to writing around 70 AD, long before any Gnostic texts were composed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking a mini miracle-sheepskin
*bows in appreciation* Thank you for the words of hope and blessing Bliss to you and all Love-Meow --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Invoking the Unified Field of all the Laws of Nature: http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/p/divine-intervention.html All Blessings of All Possibilities, -Buck in FF And maybe for purposes of consideration let's consider a Jeffersonian Jesus, i.e. no miracles. I'd welcome a reply from anyone. meowthirteen@ wrote: Instead of debating miricles or not, I seek them. namaste -M Thanks Meow, aren't they wonderful as they happen. Yep, the world is a miraculous place if you got eyes for it. All Blessings, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: emptybill: ...Paul's view of women, though inconsistent, reflects his Gnosticism in its misogynist aspects. If Paul had been a Gnostic, then we could infer that somehow some Pagan Gnostic notions got inside the Judaism of the times - not very likely, since the theology of Judaism does not support polytheism in any way. According to Maccoby, Paul was likely not a born Jew but rather a pagan convert to Judaism. Maccoby theorizes that Paul, with the zeal of a new convert, tried to become a Pharisee but didn't make the grade. His disappointment turned to a sour-grapes type of attitude, which is why he so easily rejected Judaism to become a Jesus follower.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
John jr_esq: Judy, this book looks controversial by its title... There's probably nothing in either of these two books that proves that Jesus was a Gnostic or that any of the Gnostic texts came before the Markan document. The oldest gospel is Mark which was probably compiled around AD 70. According to some conspiracy theorists, there is a 'hidden knowledge' in the Gnostic Gospels, which is the basis for Gnosticism. Is it possible that Mark was a Gnostic? If so, that would be a real stretch since apparently Mark and the other Apostles were of the Jewish faith. According to some informants, Jesus used to conceal his messianic identity in a Messianic Secret. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_according_to_Mark
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking a mini miracle-sheepskin
there IS so much beauty in the world... ~* there IS... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: And maybe for purposes of consideration let's consider a Jeffersonian Jesus, i.e. no miracles. I'd welcome a reply from anyone. meowthirteen@ wrote: Instead of debating miricles or not, I seek them. namaste -M Thanks Meow, aren't they wonderful as they happen. Yep, the world is a miraculous place if you got eyes for it. All Blessings, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century
According to V. Sundaresan, Swami Vasudevanand of Jyotirmath is the sole representative of this lineage... Peter: What a mess! Well, I guess you should have been there. I sat down directly in front of Maharishi who was sitting about fifteen feet away on his dais. To his left, and above him on his own dais was the present Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath, the spiritual pope of North India, Sri Swami Vishnudevananda. To his left, sitting on an even higher dais, was Guru Dev's successor (appointed by Guru Dev himself, in his will), Shri Swami Shantanand Saraswati Maharaj, retired Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath. These two sat under the gold and red umbrella of the Shankaracharya, on the throne-like chairs of their position. Surrounding them were about fifty of the most illustrious looking orange-clad swarmis I'd ever seen. This was the top of India's spiritual tradition in the flesh... Read more: Subject: I sat down directly in front of Maharishi... From: Willytex (Lot 49) Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: October 7, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/2wfofl2
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Thanks for the reply. This is a more plausible interpretation of what Earl said. If this is what he intended to say (jury still out for me) then I have fewer if any issues with his letter. Some comments below. Tart, the mechanics have to do with what is supposed to happen when shakti is awakened, and what happens when it's awakened incorrectly. When shakti is correctly awakened, prana is controlled and directed to break through the bottom end of central channel, rising in a straight, culminating line towards the third eye and the crown bindu, the summit. Are you saying kundalini preceeds prana? If so, I suggest that its the reverse. Prana is first balanced in ida and pingali, this then enables flow of prana up shushuma (often this is mistaken for kundalini). Then, kundalini can awaken and rise. When it's awakened incorrectly, it leaves it's home at the muladhara-chakra and short-circuits up the vajra-nadi (or another less likely route), which directly activates the dalas or crown petals. When siddhis are directly cultivated, it activates these dalas along with their associated brain areas and virtually assures an imbalanced arising. It's the path of least resistance for shakti yet it cannot reach the makara-bindu where samadhi begins or it's culmination in the crown-bindu: unity. As samskaras and doshas accumulate in this new groove, the way to awakening is blocked, and the samskaras of vyutthana, the outward-stroke, are enhanced. As the tradition of Shankara puts it, the path to Unity in this lifetime is lost. They even go so far as to single out yogic flying. I found the rapid and deep cycles of breath in TMSP much like AoL sahdarshan kriya. Huge amounts of prana are injected into the system with TMSP. With regards to TM and channels, MMY said (I heard in person), ida, pingali and shushuma are very narrow, like 1/100 of diameter of a human hair. Prana cannot normally arise in them, it is too thick. In TM breath becomes very fine, and this enables prana to become very refined, thinner and then it can arise in these channels. And separately, he said, as is common knowledge in most yoga circles, that pranayam (as well as asanas to a degree) balance the flow of prana in ida and pingali. So with pranayam, TMSP spontaneous deep and rapid breathing, and TM refined breath and prana, there appears to be all of the tools needed for a creating free flow of prana in the shusmua -- which then enables balanced flow of kundalini. So I'm guessing this probably isn't what you thought it meant: it's not so much about blatant vampirism, but a scarring of consciousness at the pranic level, causing the person to stop evolving and enter a type of servitude. So in a sense, a disreputable teacher can use this to keep students sticking around, and therefore syphoning off their energy, for what they want, their world plans. Fortunately, most people who once did the TMSP, have long since quit. Interestingly of the two primary TM successors, Deepak Chopra and SSRS, only Chopra (I am told) continued to instruct in siddhi cultivation. In fact SSRS actually added a rigourous pranayama, the traditional prerequisite for mantra meditation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: seeking a mini miracle-sheepskin
And maybe for purposes of consideration let's consider a Jeffersonian Jesus, i.e. no miracles. I'd welcome a reply from anyone. meowthirteen@ wrote: Instead of debating miricles or not, I seek them. namaste -M Thanks Meow, aren't they wonderful as they happen. Yep, the world is a miraculous place if you got eyes for it. All Blessings, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, parsleysage meowthirt...@... wrote: there IS so much beauty in the world... ~* there IS... Yep, In yonder valley there flows sweet union Let us arise and drink our fill The winter's past and the spring appears The turtle dove is in our land In yonder valley there flows sweet union Let us arise and drink or fill. An olde tune, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: snip Paul was criticized by the traditional jewish community for being at odds with much jewish tradition That's an understatement! He wasn't just at odds with much jewish tradition, he outright rejected Jewish Law. and some gentiles thought it too jewish. But in same way, he opened the door for many who would not have entered, o could not enter, the tradional jewish gateway. The big fuss had to do with Paul's insistence that gentiles (pagans, essentially) who became Jesus followers did not have to be circumcised. This ultimately is what created the split between Judaism and Christianity, Christianity having initially been a Jewish movement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: John jr_esq: Judy, this book looks controversial by its title... There's probably nothing in either of these two books that proves that Jesus was a Gnostic or that any of the Gnostic texts came before the Markan document. Don't believe anybody suggested either.
[FairfieldLife] New Interviews on Buddha at the Gas Pump and an appeal for donations
I've been having technical difficulties lately with the software that records Skype conversations, and have been working with the software company in Australia to resolve them. They recently sent me a hard drive which I sent to them with 250 GB of files on it (representing one interview) so they could diagnose the problem. They always come up with solutions, so I'm optimistic. Since the last announcement, three new interviews have been posted: Scott Kiloby http://batgap.com/scott-kiloby/ - a well-known non-duality teacher. I really enjoyed this interview and it was heartening to see that he and some other neo-advaita teachers are evolving beyond the absolutist view that many espouse. This is the one I sent to Australia. We'll eventually get the video online, but right now it's just audio. Kranti Ananta http://batgap.com/kranti-ananta/ - A British woman living in Thailand whose awakening occurred while serving time in a Japanese prison. She's had quite an adventure. Sarojini http://batgap.com/sarojini/ - Taped just last night. This is a follow-up interview. If you haven't listened to the first one http://batgap.com/sarojini/ , you might want to do that first. Very lively discussion. Unfortunately, software problems caused the video to be lost, but the audio is intact. Regarding the donations, this project is self-supporting. I neither derive income from it (although I wouldn't mind having it become my day job), nor do I fund it (by agreement with my wife). Occasionally, people click the Donate button on http://batgap.com and send in an unsolicited donation, for which I'm very grateful. These funds are used to buy needed hardware and software. One of my guests (Swami G) donated a high-quality webcam. Each of my guests uses this and a headset, and sends them to the next guest. This assures much better video and audio quality than most people's equipment would provide. Part of the current need for funds is to buy a second, Mac-compatible, webcam and headset. I may also get better quality video lights for my home studio so I don't look like I have a skin disease, and if I can raise the funds, I'd love to attend the Science and Non-Duality conference in San Rafael next fall, where guests and potential guests will speak. I may even conduct some interviews out there. So if you feel inclined, go to http://batgap.com and click the donate button. If you don't feel like messing with PayPal, I can send you my address. The next interview will be with Michael Fischman, the President of the Art of Living Foundation in the US. This is the organization that presents the teachings of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Thanks, Rick http://batgap.com YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/buddhaatthegaspump Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Buddha-at-the-Gas-Pump/245860772078 Podcast http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id359034195 Subscription address list-subscr...@batgap.com Unsubscription addresslist-unsubscr...@batgap.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Jyotir Math Shankaracharya lineage in the 20-th century
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: According to V. Sundaresan, Swami Vasudevanand of Jyotirmath is the sole representative of this lineage, that is, the lineage of Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. All of the others have gone over to other saints, e.g. Svarupanand, Prakashanand, etc. etc. Read more: http://indology.info/papers/sundaresan/ Is this where the Shri Yantra is being kept, and is it possible to see it for visitors ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: Maharishi's darkness, draining student's consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: On Dec 29, 2010, at 7:53 PM, tartbrain wrote: Oneness never lies. Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Even if you're at one with SATAN? :-) sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, my recollection is that even using Satan as one's Ishta-devata would eventually lead one to full enlightenment. Which would explain why he tries to betray his followers whenever possible: he doesn't want them to gain enlightenment by following the path of devotion (even of him) so he betrays them so they will turn away before they gain benefit from their one-pointedness. Just a thought. There may be some allegorical nuggets for TM buried there somewhere, come to think of it. *** An interesting take on it, Lawson. My feeling is that Satan is merely Saturn seen through the eyes of the addict, who roundly curses and demonizes the healer who is trying to remove his addictions and suffering. I have had similar thoughts. However there is some lose ends. Satan as the manager of Hell fits the limited view Saturn image -- creating a hellish like experience as attachments to things (and ideas) are pulled or ripped away. However, Satan is also seen as the one tempting beings towards sin, that is to become attached. That is not a role I see in Saturn. It might be more Venus, as lovely as she is, who bestows great beauty, comfort and luxury. Its the difference between modern Santa Claus and Shani Claus. Santa Claus, or should I say Santa Claws, in the modern sense (not the elf/angel type being that seeks and promotes the welfare of children -- which I think may be the real template for the Santa Clause myth). Santa Claws and most of the modern Christmas practice is Satan -- whereby overeating. eating of unhealthy things, over drinking, over consumption, commercialization of the holy, and great vanity are promoted. Shani Claus, as Shani, brings the counter flow, the counter swing of the pendulum, towards non-attachment, freedom and balance. So I am seeing Saturn as one part of the Satan myth / archetype and Venus (even Jupiter at times) being another aspect of Satan. The truer holiday spirit is Shani Claus that invite all of the children of the world to themselves offer up presents (things and attachments) under the Yule Tree, so that Saturn may free them from that bondage. And the burning of the Yule Log, from the Yule tree, is similar to the tradition of a student offering a bundle of kindling to their guru as the first step of the relationship. The kindling being symbolic of the fire the guru will create to burn all of the students samskaras. Samskara may be another root of Satan as well as the Santa Claws. Santa Claws and Shani Claus may be the polar points of duality, that are eventually unified in the ONE Santa Shiva.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
On Dec 30, 2010, at 7:48 PM, emptybill wrote: Although people talk on about kundalini quite frequently, what they describe is actually a variable degree of prana going up the spine. Muktananda used to say their are three levels of kundalini awakening: prana-kundalini, chit-kundalini and samashti-kundalini. In Tibetan (and Hindu) tantras the number of chakras and their specific nature vary quite a bit from practice to practice, which is rather moot eventually, as one gains instruction on ones own nadi-constitution, understanding one's own nature is what's really important.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Thanks for the reply. This is a more plausible interpretation of what Earl said. If this is what he intended to say (jury still out for me) then I have fewer if any issues with his letter. Some comments below. It seems to me it was part informative letter and part processing/catharsis for him. Tart, the mechanics have to do with what is supposed to happen when shakti is awakened, and what happens when it's awakened incorrectly. When shakti is correctly awakened, prana is controlled and directed to break through the bottom end of central channel, rising in a straight, culminating line towards the third eye and the crown bindu, the summit. Are you saying kundalini preceeds prana? If so, I suggest that its the reverse. Prana is first balanced in ida and pingali, this then enables flow of prana up shushuma (often this is mistaken for kundalini). Then, kundalini can awaken and rise. No there are pranas which have to be balanced for kundalini to take the correct route, otherwise it can (for some people) short-circuit. Others may just happen to have the right balance of mental disposition and outlook so that they'll awaken in a balanced way. When it's awakened incorrectly, it leaves it's home at the muladhara-chakra and short-circuits up the vajra-nadi (or another less likely route), which directly activates the dalas or crown petals. When siddhis are directly cultivated, it activates these dalas along with their associated brain areas and virtually assures an imbalanced arising. It's the path of least resistance for shakti yet it cannot reach the makara-bindu where samadhi begins or it's culmination in the crown-bindu: unity. As samskaras and doshas accumulate in this new groove, the way to awakening is blocked, and the samskaras of vyutthana, the outward-stroke, are enhanced. As the tradition of Shankara puts it, the path to Unity in this lifetime is lost. They even go so far as to single out yogic flying. I found the rapid and deep cycles of breath in TMSP much like AoL sahdarshan kriya. Huge amounts of prana are injected into the system with TMSP. I've never learned the sudarshan-kriya, but always enjoyed the fast pranayama in the TMSP. With regards to TM and channels, MMY said (I heard in person), ida, pingali and shushuma are very narrow, like 1/100 of diameter of a human hair. Prana cannot normally arise in them, it is too thick. In TM breath becomes very fine, and this enables prana to become very refined, thinner and then it can arise in these channels. And separately, he said, as is common knowledge in most yoga circles, that pranayam (as well as asanas to a degree) balance the flow of prana in ida and pingali. It's true, that can work some of the time with some people. So with pranayam, TMSP spontaneous deep and rapid breathing, and TM refined breath and prana, there appears to be all of the tools needed for a creating free flow of prana in the shusmua -- which then enables balanced flow of kundalini. For some people that will work. Since there (unfortunately) never was any research done on what specific predisposing factors (genetic, developmental, environmental) were present in people with rough risings, it's hard to know precisely, although private research (outside the TMO) has taken place. IME, unless siddhi cultivation is harnessed along with either utter dispassion and detachment or to generate a form of universal love of other life, it tends to play against oneself rather than for oneself.
[FairfieldLife] Join the Fight! In 2011
Please, give generously to the David Lynch Foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ and, the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy http://istpp.org/ Educate Yourself The best protection during this period will be knowledge. We are about to enter a time of many illusions, and to avoid being trapped by those illusions, we must become armed with the sword of truth. I will fight, fight and never slack Until I overcome the enemy- I will fight, fight, and never slack Until I overcome the enemy. I have got a little sword Which my Guru has give to me I will fight, fight, fight, fight- Fight and slay the enemy. From an old tune. We should together march anew to this tune, -Buck Toward this end, the secret of the ages must be revealed, and you must educate yourself in that secret, so that it can become the province of alland not just an elite few, as in ages long past. It is time for that which has remained hidden to be revealed. Repent you quitters! It's a great day to come back to meditation. Good morning! Clearly if science shows us anything it is that non-meditation and non-meditators are the enemy of us all. For those of us who know, we should work to put an end to non-meditation. The immediate urgent priority for world peace is to join together at MUM. Only 2000 meditating together in Transcendental Deep Meditation, rising to 2500, in Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City will bring security to America and defuse the precarious escalation of conflict in the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earl Kaplan: Maharishi's darkness, draining student's consciousness
Agreed, Tart; not all of human evil or unconscious pain is embodied in Saturn, by any means. As we've discussed, in my play every one of the twelve Aeons or Archetypes has a shadow-side which shall in good time be brought to consciousness, accepted, understood and embraced whole-heartedly (not to be confused with acting it out), as a part of our own ISness to be integrated, healed, made one with Us. Shadow-Saturn is indeed primarily Old Nick the rebellious trickster and thief. Shadow-Venus as temptress is indeed another piece of the puzzle (though in my play shadow-Venus would primarily embody envy and hatred, while shadow-Persephone would be greed and jealousy), as is shadow-Jupiter the overindulger (who in my play actually oversees Christmas, which falls on the High Holiday of Jupiter:Jupiter, the Violet Smith enthroned, a few days after the solstice. The Yule log symbolizes the rebirth of our inner Sun or Solar Creator at that same time -- and in Creating new worlds to play with, we can indeed rewire the old samskara-stories! Saturnalia, Saturn:Saturn, by contrast falls in the High Holiday just before the Solstice, closing out the old year). One of the most traditionally famous forms of the devil is embodied by shadow-Mars, the dragon of fiery rage. Mars's partner is shadow-Neptune, the terrified obsessive-compulsive and perennial seeker. But we also have shadow-Bacchus the rapist and trespasser, shadow-Urania the confused victim, shadow-Mercury as the spinner of lies and black-magic (samskara-stories), and shadow-Isis as the Queen of Denial. Even shadow-Moon, the elitist and bloodless scholar, and shadow-Sun, the egotistical solipsist, are forms of imbalance or evil. All the more of Us to love, right? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: On Dec 29, 2010, at 7:53 PM, tartbrain wrote: Oneness never lies. Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Even if you're at one with SATAN? :-) sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, my recollection is that even using Satan as one's Ishta-devata would eventually lead one to full enlightenment. Which would explain why he tries to betray his followers whenever possible: he doesn't want them to gain enlightenment by following the path of devotion (even of him) so he betrays them so they will turn away before they gain benefit from their one-pointedness. Just a thought. There may be some allegorical nuggets for TM buried there somewhere, come to think of it. *** An interesting take on it, Lawson. My feeling is that Satan is merely Saturn seen through the eyes of the addict, who roundly curses and demonizes the healer who is trying to remove his addictions and suffering. I have had similar thoughts. However there is some lose ends. Satan as the manager of Hell fits the limited view Saturn image -- creating a hellish like experience as attachments to things (and ideas) are pulled or ripped away. However, Satan is also seen as the one tempting beings towards sin, that is to become attached. That is not a role I see in Saturn. It might be more Venus, as lovely as she is, who bestows great beauty, comfort and luxury. Its the difference between modern Santa Claus and Shani Claus. Santa Claus, or should I say Santa Claws, in the modern sense (not the elf/angel type being that seeks and promotes the welfare of children -- which I think may be the real template for the Santa Clause myth). Santa Claws and most of the modern Christmas practice is Satan -- whereby overeating. eating of unhealthy things, over drinking, over consumption, commercialization of the holy, and great vanity are promoted. Shani Claus, as Shani, brings the counter flow, the counter swing of the pendulum, towards non-attachment, freedom and balance. So I am seeing Saturn as one part of the Satan myth / archetype and Venus (even Jupiter at times) being another aspect of Satan. The truer holiday spirit is Shani Claus that invite all of the children of the world to themselves offer up presents (things and attachments) under the Yule Tree, so that Saturn may free them from that bondage. And the burning of the Yule Log, from the Yule tree, is similar to the tradition of a student offering a bundle of kindling to their guru as the first step of the relationship. The kindling being symbolic of the fire the guru will create to burn all of the students samskaras. Samskara may be another root of Satan as well as the Santa Claws. Santa Claws and Shani Claus may be the polar points of duality, that are eventually unified in the ONE Santa Shiva.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Join the Fight! In 2011
Fight for what? An inferior meditation technique? :-D I like David's movies but he needs to dig a little deeper when it comes to meditation techniques. On 12/31/2010 11:09 AM, Buck wrote: Please, give generously to the David Lynch Foundation http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/ and, the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy http://istpp.org/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
On 12/31/2010 10:54 AM, Vaj wrote: On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradh...@... wrote: Tart, the mechanics have to do with what is supposed to happen when shakti is awakened, and what happens when it's awakened incorrectly. When shakti is correctly awakened, prana is controlled and directed to break through the bottom end of central channel, rising in a straight, culminating line towards the third eye and the crown bindu, the summit. Are you saying kundalini preceeds prana? If so, I suggest that its the reverse. Prana is first balanced in ida and pingali, this then enables flow of prana up shushuma (often this is mistaken for kundalini). Then, kundalini can awaken and rise. No there are pranas which have to be balanced for kundalini to take the correct route, otherwise it can (for some people) short-circuit. Others may just happen to have the right balance of mental disposition and outlook so that they'll awaken in a balanced way. That makes it sound more complicated than it really is. A guru may recommend some asanas or do shakipat on a chakra to help. And as you say for some nothing else is needed other than the meditation technique.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Interviews on Buddha at the Gas Pump and an appeal for donations
Rick, Sarojini part 2 does not appear to be showing up in Itune podcasts. The other two new ones are thre. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I've been having technical difficulties lately with the software that records Skype conversations, and have been working with the software company in Australia to resolve them. They recently sent me a hard drive which I sent to them with 250 GB of files on it (representing one interview) so they could diagnose the problem. They always come up with solutions, so I'm optimistic. Since the last announcement, three new interviews have been posted: Scott Kiloby http://batgap.com/scott-kiloby/ - a well-known non-duality teacher. I really enjoyed this interview and it was heartening to see that he and some other neo-advaita teachers are evolving beyond the absolutist view that many espouse. This is the one I sent to Australia. We'll eventually get the video online, but right now it's just audio. Kranti Ananta http://batgap.com/kranti-ananta/ - A British woman living in Thailand whose awakening occurred while serving time in a Japanese prison. She's had quite an adventure. Sarojini http://batgap.com/sarojini/ - Taped just last night. This is a follow-up interview. If you haven't listened to the first one http://batgap.com/sarojini/ , you might want to do that first. Very lively discussion. Unfortunately, software problems caused the video to be lost, but the audio is intact. Regarding the donations, this project is self-supporting. I neither derive income from it (although I wouldn't mind having it become my day job), nor do I fund it (by agreement with my wife). Occasionally, people click the Donate button on http://batgap.com and send in an unsolicited donation, for which I'm very grateful. These funds are used to buy needed hardware and software. One of my guests (Swami G) donated a high-quality webcam. Each of my guests uses this and a headset, and sends them to the next guest. This assures much better video and audio quality than most people's equipment would provide. Part of the current need for funds is to buy a second, Mac-compatible, webcam and headset. I may also get better quality video lights for my home studio so I don't look like I have a skin disease, and if I can raise the funds, I'd love to attend the Science and Non-Duality conference in San Rafael next fall, where guests and potential guests will speak. I may even conduct some interviews out there. So if you feel inclined, go to http://batgap.com and click the donate button. If you don't feel like messing with PayPal, I can send you my address. The next interview will be with Michael Fischman, the President of the Art of Living Foundation in the US. This is the organization that presents the teachings of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Thanks, Rick http://batgap.com YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/buddhaatthegaspump Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Buddha-at-the-Gas-Pump/245860772078 Podcast http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id359034195 Subscription address list-subscr...@... Unsubscription addresslist-unsubscr...@...
[FairfieldLife] Happy New Year!
New Year's is a harmless annual institution, of no particular use to anybody save as a scapegoat for promiscuous drunks, and friendly calls and humbug resolutions...now is the accepted time to make your regular annual good resolutions. Next week you can begin paving hell with them as usual. Mark Twain http://heavens-gates.com/newyears/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Year!
Thank you and best wishes for a best new year for all of you! Dan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: New Year's is a harmless annual institution, of no particular use to anybody save as a scapegoat for promiscuous drunks, and friendly calls and humbug resolutions...now is the accepted time to make your regular annual good resolutions. Next week you can begin paving hell with them as usual. Mark Twain http://heavens-gates.com/newyears/
[FairfieldLife] FW: Please Post :: New Documentary on Meditation
Dear Ones, Here's a new documentary on meditation. It's less than an hour long and so far, the feedback has been tremendous. http://vimeo.com/18217038 http://vimeo.com/18217038 If you enjoy it, please forward it along to a few of your closest friends, colleagues and family members and if you like, post it on your FB wall. Happy New Year!! Love, Frank
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote: snip I found the rapid and deep cycles of breath in TMSP much like AoL sahdarshan kriya. Huge amounts of prana are injected into the system with TMSP. I've never learned the sudarshan-kriya, but always enjoyed the fast pranayama in the TMSP. I could be wrong, but I don't think tartbrain is referring to the fast pranayama that we do as part of the TM-Sidhis program. Below he refers to it as *spontaneous* deep and rapid breathing in a sentence that distinguishes it from pranayama: So with pranayam, TMSP spontaneous deep and rapid breathing, and TM refined breath and prana If it's spontaneous, it's not the fast pranayama technique, since that's done quite deliberately. I suspect he's talking about the spontaneous bellows breathing that sometimes occurs during the Yogic Flying portion of the program, not the fast pranayama we do after asanas and before meditiation. Vaj has confused the two once before, claiming that hopping is an artifact of fast pranayama (regardless of the fact that it's done before meditation, long before one begins sutra practice, let alone Yogic Flying). Spontaneous bellows breathing, in contrast, appears to be an artifact of the Yogic Flying sutra. Either he was and is attempting to mislead, or he's never practiced the TM-Sidhi program.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote: snip I found the rapid and deep cycles of breath in TMSP much like AoL sahdarshan kriya. Huge amounts of prana are injected into the system with TMSP. I've never learned the sudarshan-kriya, but always enjoyed the fast pranayama in the TMSP. I could be wrong, but I don't think tartbrain is referring to the fast pranayama that we do as part of the TM-Sidhis program. Below he refers to it as *spontaneous* deep and rapid breathing in a sentence that distinguishes it from pranayama: So with pranayam, TMSP spontaneous deep and rapid breathing, and TM refined breath and prana If it's spontaneous, it's not the fast pranayama technique, since that's done quite deliberately. I suspect he's talking about the spontaneous bellows breathing that sometimes occurs during the Yogic Flying portion of the program, not the fast pranayama we do after asanas and before meditiation. Vaj has confused the two once before, claiming that hopping is an artifact of fast pranayama (regardless of the fact that it's done before meditation, long before one begins sutra practice, let alone Yogic Flying). Spontaneous bellows breathing, in contrast, appears to be an artifact of the Yogic Flying sutra. Either he was and is attempting to mislead, or he's never practiced the TM-Sidhi program. * * * Are those really the only two options?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
On Dec 31, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 12/31/2010 10:54 AM, Vaj wrote: On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradh...@... wrote: Tart, the mechanics have to do with what is supposed to happen when shakti is awakened, and what happens when it's awakened incorrectly. When shakti is correctly awakened, prana is controlled and directed to break through the bottom end of central channel, rising in a straight, culminating line towards the third eye and the crown bindu, the summit. Are you saying kundalini preceeds prana? If so, I suggest that its the reverse. Prana is first balanced in ida and pingali, this then enables flow of prana up shushuma (often this is mistaken for kundalini). Then, kundalini can awaken and rise. No there are pranas which have to be balanced for kundalini to take the correct route, otherwise it can (for some people) short-circuit. Others may just happen to have the right balance of mental disposition and outlook so that they'll awaken in a balanced way. That makes it sound more complicated than it really is. A guru may recommend some asanas or do shakipat on a chakra to help. And as you say for some nothing else is needed other than the meditation technique. It's what people who help heal these folks or are what sadhaks into inner tantra can use. Sometimes you need a brain surgeon and sometimes a nurse will be sufficient. I'll tell you, I wouldn't want to do this level of pranic healing and intervention unless I was thoroughly knowledgable and handling what can go wrong. So kudos to those who do. I didn't need to learn the 14 meridian acupuncture system as part of my practice, but I did. Once you know it, you can just scan your meridians, or others, and check for imbalance. It becomes natural and easy.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Interviews on Buddha at the Gas Pump and an appeal for donations
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tartbrain Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Interviews on Buddha at the Gas Pump and an appeal for donations Rick, Sarojini part 2 does not appear to be showing up in Itune podcasts. The other two new ones are thre. I just uploaded it last night, but I'll ping iTunes.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote: snip I found the rapid and deep cycles of breath in TMSP much like AoL sahdarshan kriya. Huge amounts of prana are injected into the system with TMSP. I've never learned the sudarshan-kriya, but always enjoyed the fast pranayama in the TMSP. I could be wrong, but I don't think tartbrain is referring to the fast pranayama that we do as part of the TM-Sidhis program. Below he refers to it as *spontaneous* deep and rapid breathing in a sentence that distinguishes it from pranayama: So with pranayam, TMSP spontaneous deep and rapid breathing, and TM refined breath and prana If it's spontaneous, it's not the fast pranayama technique, since that's done quite deliberately. I suspect he's talking about the spontaneous bellows breathing that sometimes occurs during the Yogic Flying portion of the program, not the fast pranayama we do after asanas and before meditiation. Vaj has confused the two once before, claiming that hopping is an artifact of fast pranayama (regardless of the fact that it's done before meditation, long before one begins sutra practice, let alone Yogic Flying). Spontaneous bellows breathing, in contrast, appears to be an artifact of the Yogic Flying sutra. Either he was and is attempting to mislead, or he's never practiced the TM-Sidhi program. * * * Are those really the only two options? If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.)
[FairfieldLife] HAPPY M M X I
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.) You're right about that post, of course; Vaj is completely wrong there, in a way that certainly does cast some doubt on whether he ever actually practiced the flying technique. But here, I was thinking he simply may have misread Tart's meaning, as I myself did on first reading. And I didn't pretend to want to know whether you had another option already in mind but had somehow failed to mention it; I wanted to see if you could perhaps come up with another option on your own, one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus Really Born on December 25th?
Great to know that you know this with such exactitude. Huhmm so did you Rtam Prajña this one too? Must have done so while waiting for a client, since it has been two millennia since that old dear doorway big mystery was purported to be hanging here. Since he's still hanging out there in each moment with his all inviting, always loving, always giving (and Him crucified) hand stretched out (won't you let me into your heart?) do you have really cool Q A's with the guy? I think I see some career possibilities here. Maybe you could sizably increase you client/patient pool by writing down your dialogs with Jesus and using them as a basis for your own theologotherapy all of it way beyond the reach of Jewish Victor Fankl and Mammon worshiper Dr. Phil. Christians would flock to you, the little shepard working for the big Shepard. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Great comment, John! We make up a lot of crap, but to gladly die for it? All I know is that around 2000 years ago some guy walking around in a human body woke up to something HUGE and it's still there today underneath a lot of conceptual garbage. Whether his name was Bob, Frank or Rory, I don't know, nor does it matter. He was a very special and dear doorway into the Big Mystery, for lack of any other term, of existence. Still there, right now, always loving, always inviting, always giving. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.) You're right about that post, of course; Vaj is completely wrong there, in a way that certainly does cast some doubt on whether he ever actually practiced the flying technique. But here, I was thinking he simply may have misread Tart's meaning, as I myself did on first reading. And I didn't pretend to want to know whether you had another option already in mind but had somehow failed to mention it; I wanted to see if you could perhaps come up with another option on your own, Yeah, I prefer straightforwardness to coy helping Judy out. one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all. He's long ago used up any benefit of the doubt he might be accorded in that regard. Tell you what, let's see if, after reading your post, he admits to having misread Tart's meaning. The two options I suggested, BTW, were attempting to mislead and never practiced the TM-Sidhi program. Only the latter would involve any actual lying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Friday Nite of the 9 Planet Maha New Years Yagya
Starts 7pm with Nitya puja. in Fairfield Friday New Year's eve at Morning Star Studio Schedule Details: http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/ 7-8 pm: Ganesh Yagya 8 pm: MahaSankalpa: Setting individual intentions for the weekend's Yaygya 8:15-10:30 pm: Invocation of NavaGraha (9 Planets) Yagya Establishment of 9 planetary mandalas 1 for each planet 11-12:30 pm: NavaGraha Samuhik Japa Participatory Group Mantra Recitation (includes 108 Bija Japa for each planet)
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
My sense is that Vaj was not initiated into TM or learned the TMSP. I can't put my finger on it, though there is something about the way he writes about it all in a fragmented way, as someone would looking at it from the outside, in. He doesn't appear to write from experience, but rather the piecemeal approach of someone relying on the abstract conclusions and intellectual understanding of themselves and others. Vaj, care to comment please? If I am completely off here, so be it - a blind man's perspective on the elephant... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.) You're right about that post, of course; Vaj is completely wrong there, in a way that certainly does cast some doubt on whether he ever actually practiced the flying technique. But here, I was thinking he simply may have misread Tart's meaning, as I myself did on first reading. And I didn't pretend to want to know whether you had another option already in mind but had somehow failed to mention it; I wanted to see if you could perhaps come up with another option on your own, one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotn...@... wrote: My sense is that Vaj was not initiated into TM or learned the TMSP. And remember he also claims to have been a TM *teacher*. Several genuine TM teachers here and on alt.m.t have had a lot of trouble swallowing that one. I can't put my finger on it, though there is something about the way he writes about it all in a fragmented way, as someone would looking at it from the outside, in. He doesn't appear to write from experience, but rather the piecemeal approach of someone relying on the abstract conclusions and intellectual understanding of themselves and others. And he's gotten some things just grossly wrong, e.g., the notion that waiting for the mantra was an important aspect of TM, not to mention the confusion of fast pranayama with spontaneous bellows breathing in post #245240. Vaj, care to comment please? If I am completely off here, so be it - a blind man's perspective on the elephant... In the past, as I recall, he hasn't been responsive to questions attempting to establish his TM status. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.) You're right about that post, of course; Vaj is completely wrong there, in a way that certainly does cast some doubt on whether he ever actually practiced the flying technique. But here, I was thinking he simply may have misread Tart's meaning, as I myself did on first reading. And I didn't pretend to want to know whether you had another option already in mind but had somehow failed to mention it; I wanted to see if you could perhaps come up with another option on your own, one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Yeah, I prefer straightforwardness to coy helping Judy out. Your preferences are duly noted, and I do apologize: I did not mean to sound coy. I thought since you have so often appeared to use similar methods on others, asking them to reread your posts and figure out for themselves what you meant, that you were a fan of the Socratic method. And most particularly I was thinking that if invited, you might come up with yet another possibility that I hadn't considered. I have a lot of respect for your intelligence, if that is not immediately obvious. R: one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all. J: He's long ago used up any benefit of the doubt he might be accorded in that regard. * * How do you know for sure that he is not operating unconsciously, out of blind pain? It seems like the best hypothesis to me. J: Tell you what, let's see if, after reading your post, he admits to having misread Tart's meaning. * * But, if he were a liar, couldn't he now just claim that he did misread it, as an easy way to avoid admitting that he consciously intended to deceive? More likely, he will ignore the whole thing, which still doesn't prove anything either way. My point is, we can never really know with full certainty; all we are doing is cooking up stories to try to explain Vaj's behavior. Much as Vaj is apparently attempting to do with MMY. J: The two options I suggested, BTW, were attempting to mislead and never practiced the TM-Sidhi program. Only the latter would involve any actual lying. * * The subtlety of your distinction is lost on me, I guess; attempting to mislead is tantamount to lying in my book.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
All good points, and he has apparently also completely misunderstood that the beautiful thing about the TM program is it is *self-transcending* -- and that the effortless backing-up process of Grace it initiates continues long after any use of the mantra itself is transcended. But then, I don't know too many bona fide TM teachers who completely grasp this fact! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: My sense is that Vaj was not initiated into TM or learned the TMSP. And remember he also claims to have been a TM *teacher*. Several genuine TM teachers here and on alt.m.t have had a lot of trouble swallowing that one. I can't put my finger on it, though there is something about the way he writes about it all in a fragmented way, as someone would looking at it from the outside, in. He doesn't appear to write from experience, but rather the piecemeal approach of someone relying on the abstract conclusions and intellectual understanding of themselves and others. And he's gotten some things just grossly wrong, e.g., the notion that waiting for the mantra was an important aspect of TM, not to mention the confusion of fast pranayama with spontaneous bellows breathing in post #245240. Vaj, care to comment please? If I am completely off here, so be it - a blind man's perspective on the elephant... In the past, as I recall, he hasn't been responsive to questions attempting to establish his TM status. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.) You're right about that post, of course; Vaj is completely wrong there, in a way that certainly does cast some doubt on whether he ever actually practiced the flying technique. But here, I was thinking he simply may have misread Tart's meaning, as I myself did on first reading. And I didn't pretend to want to know whether you had another option already in mind but had somehow failed to mention it; I wanted to see if you could perhaps come up with another option on your own, one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all.
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[FairfieldLife] Happ happy new Year 2011 to all of you
For all the cow-herd girl'gopis in reference to the holy LORD GOPINATHA for the next idyllic heure du berger bucolic post readings in this approaching year 2011 at the romantic locus amoenus Fairy Field idyllic Arkadia of pastourelle Souls let me play new years tune( with the help of youtube) for all you Mothers and Daughters Divine at FFL and You their Kingly fairies and elves (i declare hereby all in Purusha state at FFL Purushamedha) Margo Sylvia Tune Weavers - What Are You Doing New Year's Eve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEve0Ngfvw http://tinyurl.com/2bs8wxu Happy New Year tune. In Hebrew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hk6X8yGGME http://tinyurl.com/2efc6eg Shana tova everyone! With Maharishi Honey bee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8HUmUjUssNR=1 http://tinyurl.com/27olpbl Happy New Year sung by Song Zuying - Vienna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQQEEqIW6o http://tinyurl.com/295tw7r I,a young girl am going to pay new year calls Gold lock Silver lock Sparrow and parrot And parrot I had cross the river Who can ferry the young girl across the river I will help you Please hold the rudder I am getting on your boat Let us cross the river now In the spring days of March I a young girl am going to see the relative Gold lock Silver lock Sparrow and parrot And parrot I have to cross the river Who can ferry the young girl across the river Will help you this time as well Please hold the rudder I am getting on your boat Let us cross the river now
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Interviews on Buddha at the Gas Pump and an appeal for donations
may be this help and soften the heart to donate So many times I've tried to tell you, But I don't think you've been listening. There's nothing I wanna try and sell you, 'Cause Rick's love is free. donate You're so proud of saying you're a seeker, But why are you searching in the dark? You won't find a thing until you soften your heart. You try to make things too complicated, But you really don't have to be so smart. You won't learn a thing until you soften your heart. donate --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I've been having technical difficulties lately with the software that records Skype conversations, and have been working with the software company in Australia to resolve them. They recently sent me a hard drive which I sent to them with 250 GB of files on it (representing one interview) so they could diagnose the problem. They always come up with solutions, so I'm optimistic. Since the last announcement, three new interviews have been posted: Scott Kiloby http://batgap.com/scott-kiloby/ - a well-known non-duality teacher. I really enjoyed this interview and it was heartening to see that he and some other neo-advaita teachers are evolving beyond the absolutist view that many espouse. This is the one I sent to Australia. We'll eventually get the video online, but right now it's just audio. Kranti Ananta http://batgap.com/kranti-ananta/ - A British woman living in Thailand whose awakening occurred while serving time in a Japanese prison. She's had quite an adventure. Sarojini http://batgap.com/sarojini/ - Taped just last night. This is a follow-up interview. If you haven't listened to the first one http://batgap.com/sarojini/ , you might want to do that first. Very lively discussion. Unfortunately, software problems caused the video to be lost, but the audio is intact. Regarding the donations, this project is self-supporting. I neither derive income from it (although I wouldn't mind having it become my day job), nor do I fund it (by agreement with my wife). Occasionally, people click the Donate button on http://batgap.com and send in an unsolicited donation, for which I'm very grateful. These funds are used to buy needed hardware and software. One of my guests (Swami G) donated a high-quality webcam. Each of my guests uses this and a headset, and sends them to the next guest. This assures much better video and audio quality than most people's equipment would provide. Part of the current need for funds is to buy a second, Mac-compatible, webcam and headset. I may also get better quality video lights for my home studio so I don't look like I have a skin disease, and if I can raise the funds, I'd love to attend the Science and Non-Duality conference in San Rafael next fall, where guests and potential guests will speak. I may even conduct some interviews out there. So if you feel inclined, go to http://batgap.com and click the donate button. If you don't feel like messing with PayPal, I can send you my address. The next interview will be with Michael Fischman, the President of the Art of Living Foundation in the US. This is the organization that presents the teachings of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Thanks, Rick http://batgap.com YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/buddhaatthegaspump Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Buddha-at-the-Gas-Pump/245860772078 Podcast http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id359034195 Subscription address list-subscr...@... Unsubscription addresslist-unsubscr...@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: * * How do you know for sure that he is not operating unconsciously, out of blind pain? It seems like the best hypothesis to me. Neat, let's excuse all lies that way. J: Tell you what, let's see if, after reading your post, he admits to having misread Tart's meaning. * * But, if he were a liar, couldn't he now just claim that he did misread it, as an easy way to avoid admitting that he consciously intended to deceive? Sure. But I'm betting he's too attached to the desire to mislead to admit error. And that will tell us something. More likely, he will ignore the whole thing, which still doesn't prove anything either way. My point is, we can never really know with full certainty; all we are doing is cooking up stories to try to explain Vaj's behavior. Much as Vaj is apparently attempting to do with MMY. Look, we can cook up stories to explain away all kinds of misdeeds. All very saintly, but it isn't likely to help the miscreants see the light, so the misdeeds continue, doing their damage with no accountabilility. It's a matter of not letting your mind be so open that your brains fall out, as far as I'm concerned. YMMV.
[FairfieldLife] Happy happy new Year 2011 to all of you
To all the Krishna'scow-herd girl'gopis in reference to the holy LORD GOPINATHA Happy happy new Year 2011 to all of you I am eagerly waiting the next idyllic heure du berger bucolic post readings in this year 2011 at the romantic locus amoenus Fairy Field idyllic Arkadia of pastourelle Souls let me play new years tune( with the help of youtube) for all you Mothers and Daughters Divine at FFL and You their Kingly fairies and elves (i declare hereby all in Purusha state at FFL Purushamedha) Margo Sylvia Tune Weavers - What Are You Doing New Year's Eve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEve0Ngfvw http://tinyurl.com/2bs8wxu Happy New Year tune. In Hebrew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hk6X8yGGME http://tinyurl.com/2efc6eg Shana tova everyone! With Maharishi Honey bee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8HUmUjUssNR=1 http://tinyurl.com/27olpbl Happy New Year sung by Song Zuying - Vienna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQQEEqIW6o http://tinyurl.com/295tw7r I,a young girl, am going to pay new year calls Gold lock Silver lock Sparrow and parrot And parrot I had cross the river Who can ferry the young girl across the river I will help you Please hold the rudder I am getting on your boat Let us cross the river now In the spring days of March I a young girl am going to see the relative Gold lock Silver lock Sparrow and parrot And parrot I have to cross the river Who can ferry the young girl across the river Will help you this time as well Please hold the rudder I am getting on your boat Let us cross the river now
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy happy new Year 2011 to all of you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_re...@... wrote: To all the Krishna'scow-herd girls and boys (of course)'gopis let me play new years tune( with the help of youtube) Margo Sylvia Tune Weavers - What Are You Doing New Year's Eve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEve0Ngfvw http://tinyurl.com/2bs8wxu Happy New Year tune. In Hebrew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hk6X8yGGME http://tinyurl.com/2efc6eg Shana tova everyone! With Maharishi Honey bee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8HUmUjUssNR=1 http://tinyurl.com/27olpbl Happy New Year sung by Song Zuying - Vienna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQQEEqIW6o http://tinyurl.com/295tw7r
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy happy new Year 2011 to all of you
Happy New Year to you, too, Merudanda, and to all souls here! Thank you! Divine Love, Light, and Laughter always and all-ways! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_re...@... wrote: To all the Krishna'scow-herd girl'gopis in reference to the holy LORD GOPINATHA Happy happy new Year 2011 to all of you I am eagerly waiting the next idyllic heure du berger bucolic post readings in this year 2011 at the romantic locus amoenus Fairy Field idyllic Arkadia of pastourelle Souls let me play new years tune( with the help of youtube) for all you Mothers and Daughters Divine at FFL and You their Kingly fairies and elves (i declare hereby all in Purusha state at FFL Purushamedha) Margo Sylvia Tune Weavers - What Are You Doing New Year's Eve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEve0Ngfvw http://tinyurl.com/2bs8wxu Happy New Year tune. In Hebrew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hk6X8yGGME http://tinyurl.com/2efc6eg Shana tova everyone! With Maharishi Honey bee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8HUmUjUssNR=1 http://tinyurl.com/27olpbl Happy New Year sung by Song Zuying - Vienna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQQEEqIW6o http://tinyurl.com/295tw7r I,a young girl, am going to pay new year calls Gold lock Silver lock Sparrow and parrot And parrot I had cross the river Who can ferry the young girl across the river I will help you Please hold the rudder I am getting on your boat Let us cross the river now In the spring days of March I a young girl am going to see the relative Gold lock Silver lock Sparrow and parrot And parrot I have to cross the river Who can ferry the young girl across the river Will help you this time as well Please hold the rudder I am getting on your boat Let us cross the river now
[FairfieldLife] Is Iran About to Test a Nuclear Bomb In North Korea?
Is Iran About to Test a Nuclear Bomb In North Korea? By Reza Kahlili On December 24, a research report from the South Korean Foreign Ministry Institute indicated that North Korea http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/north-korea.htm#r_src=ramp would carry out another nuclear bomb test after the beginning of the year. -- South Korean media reported earlier this month that the North was digging a tunnel in preparation for such a nuclear test. At the same time, reports from inside Iran http://www.foxnews.com/topics/world/iran.htm#r_src=ramp indicate that a team of Iranian nuclear scientists have been sent to North Korea and that the two governments have agreed on a joint nuclear test in North Korea with a substantial financial reward for the Kim Jong-Il http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/kim-jong-il.htm#r_src=ramp government. It is no secret that Iran and North Korea are collaborating in a ballistic missile program. The North Koreans provided Iran with the technology and know-how to build the Shahab-3 medium-range ballistic missile, which is a copy of the Nodong-1 missile. The Shahb- 3 missile has a range of 2,000 kilometers (1,240 miles) covering all of the U.S. military bases in the Middle East http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/middle-east.htm#r_src=ramp and the entire country of Israel http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/israel.htm#r_src=ramp . Most alarming, recent WikiLeaks http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/iraq/wikileaks.htm#r_src=ramp releases reveal that Iran obtained a cache of advanced missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads (based on a Russian design) from North Korea. Now, for the first time, Iran has the capability to target every capital in Western Europe. Not only are these two governments continuing to collaborate on the missile projects, they are also conspiring on Iran's nuclear bomb development. This relationship has not only led to sharing data on previous nuclear tests by North Korea, but played a part in Iran's capability to build the more advanced P2 centrifuges that produce 2.5 times more enriched uranium than the first generation P1 model. The recent revelations about North Korea's uranium enrichment plant also raise the possibility that North Korea is enriching uranium on Iran's behalf. Iran has always maintained that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes; that it is their right to produce nuclear fuel for their nuclear power plants. In order to avoid a possible military reaction by the West, Iran is working covertly with North Korea until such a time they are capable of weaponizing their ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads. Iran continues their nuclear bomb project on multiple fronts despite four sets of sanctions by the U.N. They continue to enrich uranium at the Natanz facility (which currently has enough enriched uranium stockpiled for three nuclear bombs) while they continue to openly enrich uranium to the 20% level. It is important to note that from this level, it is comparatively easy to reach the 93% needed to create an atomic bomb. Sources inside Iran reported several months ago that Iran has successfully mastered the enrichment of uranium to a weapon-grade level. Iran is also increasing yellowcake production at the Gchine uranium mine. The mine currently has a design capacity of 21 tons of yellowcake per year; about half that amount is needed to produce the 55 pounds of 93% enriched uranium for a nuclear bomb. They have a nuclear fuel facility in Isfahan capable of producing ten tons of nuclear fuel annually, and sufficient plutonium for two nuclear weapons a year. The Arak heavy water plant built in violation of the nonproliferation treaty is near its completion, though the West had assumed this would not happen until 2015. This facility will be capable of producing significant amounts of bomb-grade plutonium. With the assistance of the Russians in going live, once the Bushehr nuclear power plant is fully operational, it will be able to produce more than 661 pounds of near-weapons-grade plutonium enough to make 60 nuclear bombs within the first year or two. The upcoming nuclear bomb test in North Korea is yet another indication that time is running out. Soon we will wake up to the shocking realization that Iran has nuclear bombs and that both Iran and North Korea have nuclear warhead delivery systems. It is a shame that we failed to stop North Korea from developing its nuclear capability, but it is not too late to stop Iran! Maybe the North Korean leaders are not suicidal. Maybe they are only looking to intimidate South Korea http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/south-korea.htm#r_src=ramp , the U.S. and other allies in the region. Maybe they are trying to gain stature and stronger negotiating powers. However, the Iranian leaders have long talked about the destruction of Israel and its master -- America. It is not only irresponsible and cowardly for our politicians to allow such a messianic regime, which
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Look, we can cook up stories to explain away all kinds of misdeeds. All very saintly, but it isn't likely to help the miscreants see the light, so the misdeeds continue, doing their damage with no accountabilility. It's a matter of not letting your mind be so open that your brains fall out, as far as I'm concerned. YMMV. Yes, my mileage does vary. Personally, I love and admire your mind and courage and heart and humor and presence immensely. I don't really see that these confrontative tactics have actually helped any miscreants see the light here, though. That's not really the way the pain-body appears to work. The core-pain is usually far too unconscious to assume responsibility for its own pain, and is ever intent on defensive denial, fulminating on the villain(s) out there who it believes cause(s) all its problems and pain. I generally find that ultimately, our healing of the soot-particles or demons we see out there rests in taking full responsibility for our universe and giving easy, loving awareness to these beings as they exist in our own attention-field, made up of our own consciousness. I find that continuing to demonize them as horrible, not-self miscreants actually increases their resistance, for we are denying them the light of our unconditional love, endarkening them rather than enlightening them. What we resist, persists. That's how and why loving our enemies actually works -- through unconditional love and simple awareness we get to melt all of those demons back into angels, into our children, into ourselves. As we treat the least of them, so we treat ourselves, for they really consist of nothing but our own awareness, trapped helpless inside that Ego of suffering, of separatist pain. But as you say, YMMV, and FWIW I am utterly OK with that, and with you, just as you are. My apologies for the sermon; it is only to myself! I love you! *stepping back down off the soap-box now*
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
What do you mean by self transcending? Do you mean that the practice itself leads the awareness of consciousness with no content? (ie. transcends thoughts etc.). Or do you mean the practice transcends the self, somewhat confused as to your meaning. Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: All good points, and he has apparently also completely misunderstood that the beautiful thing about the TM program is it is *self-transcending* -- and that the effortless backing-up process of Grace it initiates continues long after any use of the mantra itself is transcended. But then, I don't know too many bona fide TM teachers who completely grasp this fact! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: My sense is that Vaj was not initiated into TM or learned the TMSP. And remember he also claims to have been a TM *teacher*. Several genuine TM teachers here and on alt.m.t have had a lot of trouble swallowing that one. I can't put my finger on it, though there is something about the way he writes about it all in a fragmented way, as someone would looking at it from the outside, in. He doesn't appear to write from experience, but rather the piecemeal approach of someone relying on the abstract conclusions and intellectual understanding of themselves and others. And he's gotten some things just grossly wrong, e.g., the notion that waiting for the mantra was an important aspect of TM, not to mention the confusion of fast pranayama with spontaneous bellows breathing in post #245240. Vaj, care to comment please? If I am completely off here, so be it - a blind man's perspective on the elephant... In the past, as I recall, he hasn't been responsive to questions attempting to establish his TM status. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: If you've thought of another option, why don't you just say what it is instead of pretending to want to know whether I had another option in mind but somehow failed to mention it? (You might want to check out the earlier post I referred to first, though. It's #245240, from back in April.) You're right about that post, of course; Vaj is completely wrong there, in a way that certainly does cast some doubt on whether he ever actually practiced the flying technique. But here, I was thinking he simply may have misread Tart's meaning, as I myself did on first reading. And I didn't pretend to want to know whether you had another option already in mind but had somehow failed to mention it; I wanted to see if you could perhaps come up with another option on your own, one that didn't automatically cast Vaj as a liar. I am not saying he isn't one, you understand; I am just saying he might not be. He may just be suffering from unconscious blind-spots and shadow-projections, as are we all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups of Fairfield
xxoox Spiritual Practice Groups of Fairfield Directory of Active Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, What is going on in Fairfield? The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something they are wondering about. Fairfield has become recognized as a spiritual Mecca of sorts, ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder and Crestone, Colorado, Ashville, North Carolina and the like. Within these past four decades, Fairfield spiritual practice groups have matured, giving this community a rich, new face. The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own center for spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups in Fairfield is now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century. ___Alphabetical: A Course in Miracles, Mondays 7:30 pm. Local contact: 472-7148. The Afternoon Satsang, at Revelations Coffee Shop. North room 2:30pm most days. Spiritual experience and understanding. Ammachi Fairfield Satsang Ammachi Fairfield weekly schedule of meditation, chanting, and bhajans. http://amma-fairfield.org/ contact: 472-8563 or 472-9336 Art of Living Foundation -Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Meditation and program schedule in Fairfield. 472-9892 http://us.artofliving.org/index.html Babaji Group: Local contact: 472-9952 Bapuji Group Shri Avadoot, better known as ³Bapuji². Local contact: 472-9260 Chalanda Sai Maa Satang in Fairfield Group meditations based on the teachings of Chalanda Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi. First and third Monday of the month at 7:30 PM. Call for location information: 641-919-5223 641-919-5223 or email directly at: FairfieldSaiMaa@ http://www.humanityinunity.org Circle of Sophia a holy order for women at St. Gabriel and All Angels, the Liberal Catholic Church. Original worship celebration, written from sources in ancient Christianity, enlivens the Feminine Divine for both men and women. Celebrations monthly. 300 E. Burlington. www.stgabe.org Contact 472-1645 Deeksha Darshan and teachings of Bhagavan Kalki Padmavati Amma Fairfield contact for local program: 472-6948 Divine Mother Church in Fairfield `We don¹t talk about God, we commune with God'. Interfaith Service: Sundays 11 AM; 51 North Court, East Entrance Contact 641.209.9900 641.209.9900 Eckankar Local meetings, lectures and meditation Bringing speakers from the regional and national movement http://www.eckankar.org Fairfield Vedic Pujas, Yagyas and Ceremonies Scheduled public events always open to interested persons. By Vedic Scholar and Priest, Pandit Dhruv Narain Sharma: 630-240-3368 630-240-3368 http://yagya108.org/default.aspx Fellowship of the Holy Spirit in Fairfield `Consciousness, Joy, and Devotion: Christianity that works.' Sundays, 11 AM, 51 North Court. 472-8737. Gangaji Group Local contact: 472-9476. Golden Shield Qi Gong Fairfield practice: 641-919-3913 641-919-3913 . Golden Shield Qi Gong www.jingui.com 641-472-5998 641-472-5998 Hatha Yoga classes. Sue Berkey: 472-6577 Henry Hertzberger Chanting, Pujas Yagyas. Mahaganapati Temple Schedule: Fairfield Shri Karunamayi Satsang Fairfield Group Meditation, Chanting and Program. 472-8422 http://www.karunamayi.org/tour/2008Fairfield.shtml Liberal Catholic Church in Fairfield St Gabriel and all Angels, 300 E. Burlington. Contact, 472-1625 www.stgabe.org Manavata Mandir Vedic Temple 800 W. Burlington in Fairfield. 469-6041. Master Spiritual Healer John Douglas Biannual visits to Fairfield Workshops, meetings, meditation. http://www.spirit-repair.com/ Mother Meera: 641.472.5149 641.472.5149 http://www.mothermeera-fairfield.com/default.jsp Quaker Meeting Fairfield Society of Friends (Conservative Un-programmed) silent meeting for worship. 472-8422. St. Germain Meditation. Two active groups meeting for meditation weekly http://www.reiki-seichem.com/germain.html http://saintgermainfoundation.com/ Saniel Bonder, `Waking Down' in Fairfield. Sittings calendar: call 472-2001. http://wakingdowninfairfield.com/ Scalar Group Meditation Programs facilitated by Lilli Botchis. A unique opportunity as a group to research in mind/body consciousness the universal themes of pure energy and manifestation potential of HHFe Scalar wave regeneration system. Programs designed to clear, balance and open the chakra system. Contact, 472-0129. http://earthspectrum.com/ http://www.timeportalpubs.com/index.htm Shivabalayogi Group All are welcome. There is never any charge for Swamiji's blessings. For further information, contact: 641-233-1025 641-233-1025 . Sufi Cultural Alliance, Fairfield Mystical Islam, `Zikr' chanting and meditation. Thursdays 8:30pm www.suficulturalalliance.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 johnlasher20002...@... wrote: What do you mean by self transcending? Do you mean that the practice itself leads the awareness of consciousness with no content? (ie. transcends thoughts etc.). Or do you mean the practice transcends the self, somewhat confused as to your meaning. Thanks * * * I am sorry this was confusing; I will see if I can clarify it a bit. By self-transcending I mean that not only does the technique effectively use mantra to transcend mantra within a given practice-period, it also continues to provide the same backwards momentum after the identification with the individuated Witness-self has permanently dissolved into THAT, and the technique as a whole has been transcended. The simple, natural, effortless nature of Being which had as if been infused into our Understanding, continues to spread into yet more and more effortlessness, to go on purifying and enlightening all the other resistant-egos in our Universal body-mind. And here we see first-hand that it was not really merely a mechanical technique at all, but a vibrant life-line of Grace, of unconditional loving attention, which has been handed down to us from before the beginning of time, or perhaps more accurately, from after the end of time. As our particular attention-points appear to move forward in time, we are actually still effortlessly moving backwards and transcending over and over, retracing the attention-flow bestowed upon us in Grace from our future-self, as we all continue back to our source. Say what we like (or dislike) about Maharishi (and I have said plenty in my day) -- he gets the job done.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Look, we can cook up stories to explain away all kinds of misdeeds. All very saintly, but it isn't likely to help the miscreants see the light, so the misdeeds continue, doing their damage with no accountabilility. It's a matter of not letting your mind be so open that your brains fall out, as far as I'm concerned. YMMV. Yes, my mileage does vary. Personally, I love and admire your mind and courage and heart and humor and presence immensely. I don't really see that these confrontative tactics have actually helped any miscreants see the light here, though. That's not really the way the pain-body appears to work. The core-pain is usually far too unconscious to assume responsibility for its own pain, and is ever intent on defensive denial, fulminating on the villain(s) out there who it believes cause(s) all its problems and pain. Rory, wrong is wrong. If someone rolls you in an ally and steals your wallet, should you heal his soot-particles with unconditional love or have him arrested? Loving the thief unconditionally might make *you* feel better but it won't stop him from robbing again. It's like house training a puppy. Saying, No! Bad dog doesn't mean I don't love my dog unconditionally, it just means I'm correcting undesirable behavior. Otherwise, how would the miscreants of FFLife know that it's not O.K. to pee on the floor? I generally find that ultimately, our healing of the soot-particles or demons we see out there rests in taking full responsibility for our universe and giving easy, loving awareness to these beings as they exist in our own attention-field, made up of our own consciousness. I find that continuing to demonize them as horrible, not-self miscreants actually increases their resistance, for we are denying them the light of our unconditional love, endarkening them rather than enlightening them. What we resist, persists. That's how and why loving our enemies actually works -- through unconditional love and simple awareness we get to melt all of those demons back into angels, into our children, into ourselves. As we treat the least of them, so we treat ourselves, for they really consist of nothing but our own awareness, trapped helpless inside that Ego of suffering, of separatist pain. But as you say, YMMV, and FWIW I am utterly OK with that, and with you, just as you are. My apologies for the sermon; it is only to myself! I love you! *stepping back down off the soap-box now*
[FairfieldLife] Re: How does this Energy Siphoning and Kundalini Blocking Really Work? (was 2011)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Rory, wrong is wrong. If someone rolls you in an ally and steals your wallet, should you heal his soot-particles with unconditional love or have him arrested? Loving the thief unconditionally might make *you* feel better but it won't stop him from robbing again. * * * How do you know? Actually, I have been finding just that: that loving my particles unconditionally *does* stop them from robbing again. Raunchy: It's like house training a puppy. Saying, No! Bad dog doesn't mean I don't love my dog unconditionally, it just means I'm correcting undesirable behavior. Otherwise, how would the miscreants of FFLife know that it's not O.K. to pee on the floor? * * * Hey, go for it, if you're enjoying yourself and you believe your actions are achieving the desired results; as you say, what I am speaking of does not really pertain to any specific recommendations of external action or inaction, as much as being the most effective way I have found to actually show miscreants the light. I generally find that ultimately, our healing of the soot-particles or demons we see out there rests in taking full responsibility for our universe and giving easy, loving awareness to these beings as they exist in our own attention-field, made up of our own consciousness. I find that continuing to demonize them as horrible, not-self miscreants actually increases their resistance, for we are denying them the light of our unconditional love, endarkening them rather than enlightening them. What we resist, persists. That's how and why loving our enemies actually works -- through unconditional love and simple awareness we get to melt all of those demons back into angels, into our children, into ourselves. As we treat the least of them, so we treat ourselves, for they really consist of nothing but our own awareness, trapped helpless inside that Ego of suffering, of separatist pain. But as you say, YMMV, and FWIW I am utterly OK with that, and with you, just as you are. My apologies for the sermon; it is only to myself! I love you! *stepping back down off the soap-box now*
