[FairfieldLife] Who is it they're writing to?

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 ... I was genuinely curious, seeing there were so many 
 gaps in my mind. I wasn't making a dig at Ann. I wasn't 
 thinking indirectly about a dig at Robin either. In fact, 
 I can't even remember the motivation for writing the post 
 we are discussing here. I am going to have to reread it. 

Continuing my ongoing raps on the theme of Everything
you need to know about Fairfield Life you can learn from
Yahoo's Message View :-), I suggest that you don't have
to reread anything. You gained the same impression that
many others did, that so far Ann's presence here pretty
much revolves around her perception that FFL delivers up
Robin to her as a captive audience.

He's never responded to anything she writes, nor even
acknowledged her existence. Yet she's still on the Robin
was and still is brilliant bandwagon. Call me crazy, but
I think the best commentary on this so far was someone's
comparison of her to Squeaky Fromme. 'Nuff said.

 You make up this stuff in your mind. The mind manufactures 
 fictions. This is the enlightenment trip, to see through 
 those fictions. 

You presume that folks here actually have a real interest
in enlightenment. If FFL has done anything for me over the
years of my participation here, it has dissuaded me of
this notion. Nothing dies a faster death here than *actual*
discussions of enlightenment and its many mysteries. They
are derailed quickly into digs at the person who attempts
to ponder those mysteries *from their POV*, attempting to
denigrate that POV and the person who holds it, and ignor-
ing the larger issue of enlightenment completely. 

Often (and the subject of this rap), such derailments seem
to not even be aimed at the person they are presumably 
written to. In many cases, the derailer is writing to
someone who has made it crystal clear that he or she wants
nothing to do with the derailer, and in many cases doesn't
even bother to read what they write. They have been, in
as real a sense as in the romantic one, been dumped.

And, just as one finds in bars full of sad men and women
desperate for someone -- anyone -- who will sit there and
listen to them drone on endlessly about the person who
dumped them and what horrible, nasty, inexcusably 
inexcusable people the act of dumpage makes them. In bars, 
you could deal with such people the same way people do in
real life -- get up and move to the other side of the bar
and leave them ranting to themselves. 

Here, you can't. They can continue to rant, often pretending
that they are *still writing directly to the person who has
made it clear they aren't reading a word of it*. (Or, as in
my case, only the first 10 words or so shown in Message View.)

Few call them on this. WHY? Because IMO *they're* the ones
reading it, and in fact *they're* the ones being written to.
It's all part of a phenomenon we discussed briefly earlier,
trying to form what you call associations with other 
people, what I call cliques. 

On one level, I think that people on Internet forums who 
continue to rant angrily at people who have dumped them 
(or defend and praise them just as embarrassingly) are in 
the same ballpark as stalkers who stand outside the apart-
ments of men or women who have dumped them romantically and 
scream at their closed, double-paned-for-soundproofing-purposes 
windows. The ranting is *not* for the purpose of communication; 
it's a way of either venting their own line-on-stone anger 
at the person who has dumped them or a way of (in their 
minds) trying to get them back. 

Because the dumper is not paying any attention to the some-
what deranged dumpee, and thus refusing to become a captive
audience for those they've dumped, the dumpees settle for 
the next best thing. That is, the same thing that the 
drunks in the bars settle for if they can get it. Someone
-- anyone -- who will listen to them rant endlessly about 
the horrible dumper and then hopefully either pile on to 
ragging about them or, at the very least, respond with an 
occasional Uh huh or Whatever you say, which the raging 
dumpee interprets as meaning You go, girl or You rock, man. 

Meanwhile I'm over here in another corner of the bar,
wondering why others are still sitting there listening to
someone drunk on attachment carrying on endlessly about it.





[FairfieldLife] Legimate Rape as an ad from the pharmaceutical industry

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
There are times when you really can't deal with how crazy
things have gotten by getting all serious about it, and
trying to appeal to the intellect of people devoid of one
or to the better sides of people who don't have them. 
In such times, humor and satire are really the only 
effective tools left to you.

Do you suffer from SLUT (Sexually Liberated Uterine 
Tendencies? Now there's a treatment that can help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzqvqzBdUQ




[FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen

2012-08-31 Thread John
Come to think of it, her male groupie friends probably think she is enlightened 
just for those reasons.  As such, she could be considered an embodiment of 
Venus, the goddess, with the demons as her disciples, or minions. :)

  
  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 A lot of actresses swoon over astrologers.  Maybe you should step in and 
 help her out.  She's already enlightened as she has the two fullnesses. ;-)
 
 On 08/29/2012 07:40 PM, John wrote:
  She needs to learn how to transcend her weaknesses.  If not, she will go 
  through a vicious cycle of suffering.
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  God help her help herself. Â
 
 
  
From: Share Long sharelong60@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen

 
  Â
  Feed birds on Wednesday?  Request rahu pujas or yagyas?  Wear kavach?  
  Or hessonite?  Daily recitation of prayer to Rahu:
  I pray to Rahu having half a body, of great bravery, the eclipser of the 
  Moon and the Sun, born of Simhikaa.
 
  Go on Mother Divine for 18 years?Â
  Laughing, but that might also help the Moon.
 
  Last but not least, support rahu like people.  Wonder what that would be.
 
 
 
  
From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:25 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen

 
  Â
  Lindsay has several planets that are weak--technically called Atmakaraka 
  Dosha--and are contributing to her troubles.
 
  http://omg.yahoo.com/news/lindsay-lohan-banned-from-chateau-marmont-after-failing-to-pay-a-whopping--46-000-bill-.html
 
  Specifically, she has the
 
  1.  Conjunction of the Moon and Rahu which is the main cause of her 
  compulsive and obsessive behaviour.  Since Rahu is in the 11th house from 
  her karakamsa, her friends are contributing to her troubles.
 
  2.  Venus is weak which is placed in the navamsha of Aquarius.  This is 
  causing her problems with cars on public roads which resulted in DUI 
  convictions and jail time.
 
  3.  Mercury is also weak and placed in the navamsha of Aries.  Jaimini's 
  Upadesha has termed this combination as one who is lacking mother's 
  milk.  Thus, we find Lindsay indulging in alcoholic beverages.
 
  She is now running the major period of Rahu which will last for 18 years.  
  As such, She needs to consult a jyotishi to find a solution to her 
  problems.
 
  JR
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Effort to declare Arunachala as a World Heritage Site

2012-08-31 Thread Richard
The petition site requires Facebook membership to sign it. Sorry for this if it 
is a problem. I did not set up petition, am only letting people know about it.

Richard

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard richard@... wrote:

 There is a new effort to declare Arunachala as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. 
 Learn about the effort and find out how to sign the petition.
 
 http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/join-the-effort-to-declare-arunachala-as-a-world-heritage-site/
 
 This is important. If you love Arunachala, please help.
 
 Richard




Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

  Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
  She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
  responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
  Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.

Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
physically strike his students, although he 
still claimed it was a gentle push.

He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
been present at any of his talks, and thus was
(wait for it...you've never heard this before)
a LIAR.

Which has again subsequently been disproved, by
someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
of the blow. 

 I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
 of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
 read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
 apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
 Robin's instigation, which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
 seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
 posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
 imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
 say she had no agenda. 

It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
credibility as someone who was actually there has
been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
has been in touch via email with many other people
from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
might have known in the past, revealing how to get
in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.

No agenda here. Nope. 


Robin, by the grace of God,
will you manifest the essence of the heart of Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Through the nervous system of creation,
Through the nervous system,
Through my nervous system
Through me,
Through my heart.
- a sutra from the Technique for the Discovery of Grace 
which extends the TM-Sidhi programme


I guess we now know what practicing this sutra
does for a person, and for how long. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Blue Moon in Fairfield

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
WOW!  And we live here Raunchy!  Thank you for beautiful photos.  Will give big 
hug in 6 hours.  Ann, we'll miss you too.  


Wish anyone who would like to, could be here.  Of course with students rounding 
this weekend, the World's Washing Machine is definitely revving up.  Makes for 
interesting unfoldings 




 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Blue Moon in Fairfield
 

  












 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
Say it isn't so Raviji!  I'm quite scandalized by my own Self.  OTOH, the girls 
wanted naughty names, the Good Doc wanted derriere based names.  Voila and 
bob's your uncle!  Feeding 2 birds with one hand.  Can save creativity for more 
important Calling.

As for you dear Nephew, keep riveted on lovely Rosathea sprung from head of 
Zeus, etc.  Thou art indeed being tested here on FFL.




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen
 

  
Dear Aunt Share, I whole heartedly recommend LuvTapAss for you and you know 
what it's naughty too :-)

And all the acronyms suggested for Ann as well. Doctor Dumbass are you 
listening? 



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
I'd rather  be LuvTapAss.  Ruled by Venus dontcha know?  




 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:32 PM

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Dr. Dumbass, I would nominate Ann for the Kickass moniker...but she 
 already has whipyerass, courtesy of rd.  
 
 

kickturqass..Judy

kicknoass...Share

 
  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen
 
 
   
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Share,
  
  These are all good ideas.  But I don't believe she has the willingness to 
  join Mother Divine or any similar organizations.
  
  Rahu is in her 10th house which will make her career minded, but not 
  necessarily wise in her behaviour and life choices.
  
  JR
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Feed birds on Wednesday?  Request rahu pujas or yagyas?  Wear 
   kavach?  Or hessonite?  Daily recitation of prayer to Rahu:
 
 Or how about if she were to stop snorting, smoking and guzzling drugs, to 
 take responsibility for her actions and her life, realize she is not 
 privileged in a way that allows her to act with impunity without the 
 consequences that result as a byproduct of selfish, indulgent action. Maybe 
 she needs to step back and take a hard look at herself as best as she can 
 and realize she is solely responsible for what she does and what is 
 therefore happening to her. How about feebly grasping the idea that to live 
 within the Hollywood bubble of non-reality does not exempt her from 
 experiencing the consequences of her actions. How about her starting to act 
 like a decent human being because, after all, she has a brain and eyes, ears 
 and a mouth that function and she has the choice of using these tools to 
 produce life-affirming action instead of self-thwarting, suffering-inducing 
 behaviors. But then again maybe it is all a result of the moon and rahu 
 getting it on
 at the
  wrong juncture of the sun crossing Pythagorus.
 
   I pray to Rahu having half a body, of great bravery, the eclipser of the 
   Moon and the Sun, born of Simhikaa.
   
   Go on Mother Divine for 18 years?  
   Laughing, but that might also help the Moon.
   
   Last but not least, support rahu like people.  Wonder what that would 
   be.
   
   
   
   
From: John jr_esq@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:25 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen
   
   
     
   Lindsay has several planets that are weak--technically called Atmakaraka 
   Dosha--and are contributing to her troubles.
   
   http://omg.yahoo.com/news/lindsay-lohan-banned-from-chateau-marmont-after-failing-to-pay-a-whopping--46-000-bill-.html
   
   Specifically, she has the
   
   1.  Conjunction of the Moon and Rahu which is the main cause of her 
   compulsive and obsessive behaviour.  Since Rahu is in the 11th house 
   from her karakamsa, her friends are contributing to her troubles.
   
   2.  Venus is weak which is placed in the navamsha of Aquarius.  This is 
   causing her problems with cars on public roads which resulted in DUI 
   convictions and jail time.
   
   3.  Mercury is also weak and placed in the navamsha of Aries.  Jaimini's 
   Upadesha has termed this combination as one who is lacking mother's 
   milk.  Thus, we find Lindsay indulging in alcoholic beverages.
   
   She is now running the major period of Rahu which will last for 18 
   years.  As such, She needs to consult a jyotishi to find a solution to 
   her problems. 
   
   JR
  
 






 

[FairfieldLife] for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
from jyotishi Sam Geppi's newsletter, about full Moon in Aquarius which occurs 
approx 9 am Central Aug 31

Note that Sun is in its own sign, Leo which gives it added power.  But also 
potential imbalances.

Sam SadaShiva says:

Connecting our personal power to the highest good, without regard for our own 
personal glory – aversions, victories, defeats, is the highest 
Leo lesson. The full Moon in Aquarius brings the compassion for humanity and 
the feeling of appreciation for others and their glory as 
embodiments of G-d. This realization must be present if the Leo in each 
of us is to fulfill its mission as the “Good King” – one whose kingdom 
flourishes – rather than the tyrant who can only feel powerful when 
robbing the peasants and invading other kingdoms.

Shatabishak Nakshatra
This full Moon happens in the Nakshatra of Shatabishak, which literally means 
“100 physicians”.
This Nakshatra is where the poison of our fears and hypnotic 
attachments to life are transformed into the elixir of sacred medicine. 
This medicine takes the form of sacred teachings and healings that 
descend from the heavens.
The deity of this Nakshatra is Varuna, who brings the celestial rains from 
heaven and charges the atmosphere with static electricity, that 
leads to the lightning strike of awareness in the next Nakshatra of Purva 
Bhadra.

[FairfieldLife] New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
[AP, Fairfield, Iowa] In a move seen by many as a tribute to one of the
biggest TM heroes, Clint Eastwood, the organization that teaches
Transcendental Meditation today announced a new Advanced Technique.
This technique is seen as an extension to the TM-Sidhi program, which
was supposed to invoke ritam by delivering to people hopping around on
their butts all that they desire in life.

Since, well over 35 years after the TM-Sidhi technique was introduced,
it's been made abundantly clear that its practitioners have *not* gotten
all that they desire in life, the TM organization is addressing that
issue directly, in the form of a new form of fertilizer to invoke the
mysterious power of ritam even further.

The new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique aims at removing the
*obstacles* to TM-Sidhi practitioners getting everything they desire.
Clearly, said Bevan Morris, Spokesbutt Emeritus for the butt-bouncers,
something has been *preventing* the full flow of ritam. A negative
force has been getting in the way of the powerful Waves Of Woo generated
by bouncing on our butts, and keeping our desires from being instantly
fulfilled by ritam.

Morris continued, We now know who and what this negative force is. It's
a bunch of misguided souls -- many of them paid by the CIA or the Dalai
Lama or both -- who consistently thwart the awesome power of ritam by
saying things about us that are...uh...true, but that we don't want
said. The time has now come to act, and avoid the problem before it
comes.

Although actual details of the new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique are
a deep, dark secret, and no one is supposed to talk about them, AP has
received information from a whistleblower who learned the new technique
last night and posted his impressions of it on WikiLeaks.

He says, It's basically a visualization technique. What you do is to
imagine the person who you feel is an obstacle to you getting everything
you desire, and visualize them seated upon a golden throne. Then, after
forming a clear picture of the horrible enemy of all that is holy in
your mind and yelling at them for a while, you mentally press the button
located on the top of the golden throne, chant the holy mantra Make my
day! and flush the person and his or her negativity away. I'm not sure
whether all of your desires are supposed to start becoming fulfilled
after you mentally flush the TM critics away or when you sign the check
for the $10,000 the course costs -- all I can say is that like all TM
courses that preceded it this new one didn't work as promised. Maybe you
have to be senile like Clint Eastwood for it to work. Anyway, I'm doing
what I should have done long ago and blowing the whistle and passing
along not only this information but the visual aid given to me in my
Golden Throne Of Ritam class that was supposed to help me envision the
throne more accurately.


http://therealestatecoconut.com/files/2011/05/gold-toilet.jpg
http://therealestatecoconut.com/files/2011/05/gold-toilet.jpg




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
dear Rick,  I vote for keeping weekly post limit to 50.  Or increase to 70!  Of 
course I've been spoiled by other forums that have unlimited posting.  And I do 
understand Buck's reasons.  But Buck, in case you haven't noticed, some people 
don't want to go offline.  Probably something to do with wanting to maintain 
anonymity and privacy.


OTOH, some of us would like to reply to every single post, if only to say thank 
you for something especially interesting and or beautiful, moving, funny, etc.
I've stopped thanking for crop circles because of posting limit.  So here is 
blanket gratitude for all past and future crop circles, Mr. Apple Sauce   

The thing is, you are already completely free to avoid reading the posts you're 
not interested in.  So why are you aiming to limit the freedom of others whose 
posting style is different than yours?

BTW, I enjoyed your post to Turq inviting him to come to Dome.  Wonderful 
irony, yes?

Share in Bagambhrini, feeling the rounding of the students, maybe you are too, 
Buck in Patanjali?  




 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
 
  
  Dear Emily,
  
  I have chosen to ignore, for now, your introductory remarks, which
  are a gloss upon your commentary. I am going to post only my response
  to your commentary. After that I shall look at these reflections
  (which were written after you has composed your commentary--I have
  excised them from this post) to see if they merit a separate post.
 
 If they do merit a separate post, make sure to post it after Friday's Post 
 Count, 'cuz right now you're at 50 posts for the week.


Dear Rick,  A lot of this shit between people should go offline between folks 
as a curtsey between folks.   Let's go back to 30 posts per week.  The writing 
was much better then when posts were precious at 30 to 40 posts per week.  A 
cap of 50 posts per week puts this place in to twitter.  Like if someone wants 
to 'salon' on TV shows or on the book about Osama, or Ravi or Robin or 'the 
gang' want to bomb this place on their stuff, at 30 posts it is more likely to 
be connected to FFL.  50 posts per week is too damned excruciating to get these 
people off of FFL.  At 30 posts the airways would free up by Saturday nite for 
topics related to FF on a lot of weeks.  I'd be glad to help you administrate 
this, just give me the passwords to FFL.
Your loyal and early FFL member,
-Buck in FF 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
  
   
   Dear Emily,
   
   I have chosen to ignore, for now, your introductory remarks, which
   are a gloss upon your commentary. I am going to post only my response
   to your commentary. After that I shall look at these reflections
   (which were written after you has composed your commentary--I have
   excised them from this post) to see if they merit a separate post.
  
  If they do merit a separate post, make sure to post it after Friday's Post 
  Count, 'cuz right now you're at 50 posts for the week.
 
 
 Dear Rick,  A lot of this shit between people should go offline between folks 
 as a curtsey between folks.   Let's go back to 30 posts per week.  The 
 writing was much better then when posts were precious at 30 to 40 posts per 
 week.  A cap of 50 posts per week puts this place in to twitter.  Like if 
 someone wants to 'salon' on TV shows or on the book about Osama, or Ravi or 
 Robin or 'the gang' want to bomb this place on their stuff, at 30 posts it is 
 more likely to be connected to FFL.  50 posts per week is too damned 
 excruciating to get these people off of FFL.  At 30 posts the airways would 
 free up by Saturday nite for topics related to FF on a lot of weeks.  I'd be 
 glad to help you administrate this, just give me the passwords to FFL.
 Your loyal and early FFL member,
 -Buck in FF


That would mean less nonsense, sorry SILENCE, from Leiden too. 
I'm all for it !



[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Obama, Pentagon Threaten Legal Action Against SEAL Author

2012-08-31 Thread WLeed3


 
  

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Sent: 8/31/2012  7:04:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Blue Moon in Fairfield

2012-08-31 Thread seventhray1
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is it they're writing to?

2012-08-31 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  ... I was genuinely curious, seeing there were so many 
  gaps in my mind. I wasn't making a dig at Ann. I wasn't 
  thinking indirectly about a dig at Robin either. In fact, 
  I can't even remember the motivation for writing the post 
  we are discussing here. I am going to have to reread it. 
 
 Continuing my ongoing raps on the theme of Everything
 you need to know about Fairfield Life you can learn from
 Yahoo's Message View :-), I suggest that you don't have
 to reread anything. You gained the same impression that
 many others did, that so far Ann's presence here pretty
 much revolves around her perception that FFL delivers up
 Robin to her as a captive audience.
 
 He's never responded to anything she writes, nor even
 acknowledged her existence. Yet she's still on the Robin
 was and still is brilliant bandwagon. Call me crazy, but
 I think the best commentary on this so far was someone's
 comparison of her to Squeaky Fromme. 'Nuff said.
 
  You make up this stuff in your mind. The mind manufactures 
  fictions. This is the enlightenment trip, to see through 
  those fictions. 
 
 You presume that folks here actually have a real interest
 in enlightenment. If FFL has done anything for me over the
 years of my participation here, it has dissuaded me of
 this notion. Nothing dies a faster death here than *actual*
 discussions of enlightenment and its many mysteries. They
 are derailed quickly into digs at the person who attempts
 to ponder those mysteries *from their POV*, attempting to
 denigrate that POV and the person who holds it, and ignor-
 ing the larger issue of enlightenment completely. 
 
 Often (and the subject of this rap), such derailments seem
 to not even be aimed at the person they are presumably 
 written to. In many cases, the derailer is writing to
 someone who has made it crystal clear that he or she wants
 nothing to do with the derailer, and in many cases doesn't
 even bother to read what they write. They have been, in
 as real a sense as in the romantic one, been dumped.
 
 And, just as one finds in bars full of sad men and women
 desperate for someone -- anyone -- who will sit there and
 listen to them drone on endlessly about the person who
 dumped them and what horrible, nasty, inexcusably 
 inexcusable people the act of dumpage makes them. In bars, 
 you could deal with such people the same way people do in
 real life -- get up and move to the other side of the bar
 and leave them ranting to themselves. 
 
 Here, you can't. They can continue to rant, often pretending
 that they are *still writing directly to the person who has
 made it clear they aren't reading a word of it*. (Or, as in
 my case, only the first 10 words or so shown in Message View.)
 
 Few call them on this. WHY? Because IMO *they're* the ones
 reading it, and in fact *they're* the ones being written to.
 It's all part of a phenomenon we discussed briefly earlier,
 trying to form what you call associations with other 
 people, what I call cliques. 
 
 On one level, I think that people on Internet forums who 
 continue to rant angrily at people who have dumped them 
 (or defend and praise them just as embarrassingly) are in 
 the same ballpark as stalkers who stand outside the apart-
 ments of men or women who have dumped them romantically and 
 scream at their closed, double-paned-for-soundproofing-purposes 
 windows. The ranting is *not* for the purpose of communication; 
 it's a way of either venting their own line-on-stone anger 
 at the person who has dumped them or a way of (in their 
 minds) trying to get them back. 
 
 Because the dumper is not paying any attention to the some-
 what deranged dumpee, and thus refusing to become a captive
 audience for those they've dumped, the dumpees settle for 
 the next best thing. That is, the same thing that the 
 drunks in the bars settle for if they can get it. Someone
 -- anyone -- who will listen to them rant endlessly about 
 the horrible dumper and then hopefully either pile on to 
 ragging about them or, at the very least, respond with an 
 occasional Uh huh or Whatever you say, which the raging 
 dumpee interprets as meaning You go, girl or You rock, man. 
 
 Meanwhile I'm over here in another corner of the bar,
 wondering why others are still sitting there listening to
 someone drunk on attachment carrying on endlessly about it.

No you aren't, you're the silly nit who thinks that a woman who chooses to 
climb on your lap at this bar is actually enthralled with your conversation and 
is longing for you to caress her ass. 





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
   Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
   She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
   responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
   Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
 
 Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
 thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
 physically strike his students, although he 
 still claimed it was a gentle push.
 
 He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
 been present at any of his talks, and thus was
 (wait for it...you've never heard this before)
 a LIAR.
 
 Which has again subsequently been disproved, by
 someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
 but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
 thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
 of the blow. 
 
  I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
  of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
  read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
  apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
  Robin's instigation, which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
  seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
  posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
  imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
  say she had no agenda. 
 
 It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
 credibility as someone who was actually there has
 been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
 has been in touch via email with many other people
 from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
 might have known in the past, revealing how to get
 in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
 trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
 As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.

Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are purposefully skewing the truth 
Mr Wright. I have never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. Anyone 
who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a family member or Lord Knows. All 
of whom knew how to contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out and 
out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?
 
 No agenda here. Nope. 
 
 
 Robin, by the grace of God,
 will you manifest the essence of the heart of Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
 Through the nervous system of creation,
 Through the nervous system,
 Through my nervous system
 Through me,
 Through my heart.
 - a sutra from the Technique for the Discovery of Grace 
 which extends the TM-Sidhi programme
 
 
 I guess we now know what practicing this sutra
 does for a person, and for how long.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is it they're writing to?

2012-08-31 Thread doctordumbass
Doc sez: Man, you sure get a lot out of message view! Also, enjoying your self 
is a lot different than enjoying your Self. What I mean is you are a bright guy 
and a good writer. When you knock something, as you do below, all you are doing 
is creating a story that fits your emotions at the time; your feelings equal 
the story you see.
 
So you make up a story of carefully selected experiences - the sad men and 
women in bars, for example - and use that as a springboard to put down people 
in another story you have created, according to your inner feelings.

This is no big deal -- we all do it. Part of the human paradox. You presented a 
particularly good example, so I used it. Nothin' personal.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  ... I was genuinely curious, seeing there were so many 
  gaps in my mind. I wasn't making a dig at Ann. I wasn't 
  thinking indirectly about a dig at Robin either. In fact, 
  I can't even remember the motivation for writing the post 
  we are discussing here. I am going to have to reread it. 
 
 Continuing my ongoing raps on the theme of Everything
 you need to know about Fairfield Life you can learn from
 Yahoo's Message View :-), I suggest that you don't have
 to reread anything. You gained the same impression that
 many others did, that so far Ann's presence here pretty
 much revolves around her perception that FFL delivers up
 Robin to her as a captive audience.
 
 He's never responded to anything she writes, nor even
 acknowledged her existence. Yet she's still on the Robin
 was and still is brilliant bandwagon. Call me crazy, but
 I think the best commentary on this so far was someone's
 comparison of her to Squeaky Fromme. 'Nuff said.
 
  You make up this stuff in your mind. The mind manufactures 
  fictions. This is the enlightenment trip, to see through 
  those fictions. 
 
 You presume that folks here actually have a real interest
 in enlightenment. If FFL has done anything for me over the
 years of my participation here, it has dissuaded me of
 this notion. Nothing dies a faster death here than *actual*
 discussions of enlightenment and its many mysteries. They
 are derailed quickly into digs at the person who attempts
 to ponder those mysteries *from their POV*, attempting to
 denigrate that POV and the person who holds it, and ignor-
 ing the larger issue of enlightenment completely. 
 
 Often (and the subject of this rap), such derailments seem
 to not even be aimed at the person they are presumably 
 written to. In many cases, the derailer is writing to
 someone who has made it crystal clear that he or she wants
 nothing to do with the derailer, and in many cases doesn't
 even bother to read what they write. They have been, in
 as real a sense as in the romantic one, been dumped.
 
 And, just as one finds in bars full of sad men and women
 desperate for someone -- anyone -- who will sit there and
 listen to them drone on endlessly about the person who
 dumped them and what horrible, nasty, inexcusably 
 inexcusable people the act of dumpage makes them. In bars, 
 you could deal with such people the same way people do in
 real life -- get up and move to the other side of the bar
 and leave them ranting to themselves. 
 
 Here, you can't. They can continue to rant, often pretending
 that they are *still writing directly to the person who has
 made it clear they aren't reading a word of it*. (Or, as in
 my case, only the first 10 words or so shown in Message View.)
 
 Few call them on this. WHY? Because IMO *they're* the ones
 reading it, and in fact *they're* the ones being written to.
 It's all part of a phenomenon we discussed briefly earlier,
 trying to form what you call associations with other 
 people, what I call cliques. 
 
 On one level, I think that people on Internet forums who 
 continue to rant angrily at people who have dumped them 
 (or defend and praise them just as embarrassingly) are in 
 the same ballpark as stalkers who stand outside the apart-
 ments of men or women who have dumped them romantically and 
 scream at their closed, double-paned-for-soundproofing-purposes 
 windows. The ranting is *not* for the purpose of communication; 
 it's a way of either venting their own line-on-stone anger 
 at the person who has dumped them or a way of (in their 
 minds) trying to get them back. 
 
 Because the dumper is not paying any attention to the some-
 what deranged dumpee, and thus refusing to become a captive
 audience for those they've dumped, the dumpees settle for 
 the next best thing. That is, the same thing that the 
 drunks in the bars settle for if they can get it. Someone
 -- anyone -- who will listen to them rant endlessly about 
 the horrible dumper and then hopefully either pile on to 
 ragging about them or, at the very least, respond with an 
 occasional Uh huh or Whatever you say, which the raging 
 dumpee 

Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread doctordumbass
The Good Doctor observes that it is doubtful Barry can hear Ann from within his 
dream.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@ wrote:
  
Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
  
  Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
  thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
  physically strike his students, although he 
  still claimed it was a gentle push.
  
  He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
  been present at any of his talks, and thus was
  (wait for it...you've never heard this before)
  a LIAR.
  
  Which has again subsequently been disproved, by
  someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
  but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
  thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
  of the blow. 
  
   I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
   of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
   read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
   apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
   Robin's instigation, which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
   seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
   posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
   imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
   say she had no agenda. 
  
  It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
  credibility as someone who was actually there has
  been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
  has been in touch via email with many other people
  from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
  might have known in the past, revealing how to get
  in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
  trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
  As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
 
 Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are purposefully skewing the 
 truth Mr Wright. I have never given anyone Vaj's personal contact 
 information. Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a family 
 member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to contact him anyway. So this I 
 can tell you, is an out and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the 
 agenda?
  
  No agenda here. Nope. 
  
  
  Robin, by the grace of God,
  will you manifest the essence of the heart of Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
  Through the nervous system of creation,
  Through the nervous system,
  Through my nervous system
  Through me,
  Through my heart.
  - a sutra from the Technique for the Discovery of Grace 
  which extends the TM-Sidhi programme
  
  
  I guess we now know what practicing this sutra
  does for a person, and for how long.
 





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
  credibility as someone who was actually there has
  been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
  has been in touch via email with many other people
  from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
  might have known in the past, revealing how to get
  in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
  trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
  As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
 
 Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are 
 purposefully skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have 
 never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. 
 Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a 
 family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to 
 contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out 
 and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?

I am merely passing along what I have been told. If it
is incorrect, my bad. But it certainly seems believable
to me, given how much you still seem to obsess on Robin
and those of your fellow cultists who still seem to be 
unwilling to admit, even as a possibility, We were young, 
naive, and stupid, and we got taken in by a charismatic 
charlatan.

I would say that *your* credibility is more established
by you still thinking of your fellow cultists as us
and as family -- 25 years later - and still obsessing 
on the cult and its founder by stalking him than by 
anything else.

I'm still aghast that *anyone* would have been taken
in by him and his act in the first place. But to still
be hanging around acting like a groupie, trying to get 
him to notice you? NOT something that makes me want to 
interact with you. 

Have you *looked up* Squeaky Fromme? Do you know who
you are being compared to? 

[ That last is a rhetorical question. I'm replying to
this just in case I was given misinformation about your
role in setting fellow stalkers on Vaj's ass. I doubt
that this is the case, but just in case. I will *not*,
however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
been dumped. Try to handle it better than Judy has. ]




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 May the Force be with you, in spite of these TM-haters.  Hagelin with the DLF 
 are driving a spiritual counter-attack right through this breech in these 
 demographic numbers in both youth as well as boomers identifying as 
 'spiritual' and/or 'not religious'.  David Lynch and Hagelin are culturally 
 timely, significant and revolutionary in trend.  May you live in interesting 
 times. The fomenting anti-meditation haters are nothing better than angry 
 bush-whacking counter-revolutionaries to the larger spiritual change 
 happening.
 -Buck in the Dome   

Just who are you referring to here Buck? Most people who have a fixation in 
some ideology mechanically tend to think whatever they are doing is 'the best'. 
Most of the people on this forum, in spite of this, are practicing some form of 
meditation, including me (TM). That is, the lives of the people on this forum 
have some kind of spiritual arc regardless how one construes them.

There is an historical shift going on. More people are falling away from 
organised religion. The atheist group is rather strong in Europe, at about 18% 
and it is thought about 50% of Europe is essentially not affiliated. In the US 
about 16% are unaffiliated with agnostics being 2.4% and atheists 1.6% as part 
of that group. In the United Kingdom, about 23% are unaffiliated thought some 
recent studies indicate that the unaffiliated/no religion group is now 
surpassing Christians in number.

The trend is away from people believing the universe is created/run by an 
intentional agent and moving in the direction of the universe having some kind 
of embedded essence, or not having any such creator or essence at all. To my 
mind, spiritual experiences ultimately have nothing to do with any particular 
ideology or explanation of reality, they seem to be an aspect of the human 
condition, and anybody can have them regardless of what in the meantime they 
happen to believe or think is real. All spiritual experiences need are the 
proper triggers to set them off, and this can be done in spiritual, religious, 
and secular settings. As long as people are sufficiently intelligent, and 
sufficiently grounded in a sense of reality that allows some variation in 
belief in others, it really does not matter so much and people can move along 
their spiritual arc.

The problem is polarisation of belief, which one sees between religions and 
political parties. When belief is polarised one is disconnected from reality 
and lives entirely in the world of one's own imagination.

Why do we have this desire to suppress the expression of certain kinds of 
information in others? Do we have some kind of inner dictator that wants to 
enslave the world and make it our own, responsive to our beck and call? To put 
this in perspective, this seems to me to be the difference between a 
spontaneous humbleness in the face of the awesomeness of the world, in its 
mystery, in its being a self-contained process, a single functioning that in 
its own essence it is the world and the world's control. This is opposed to 
ego, where in that point value of individuality, we want to control the world 
but from the opposite pole, so to speak, controlling the world from a single 
point of view. This is like the tail wagging the dog. And when one does this 
from that individual point, you have to know which end of the dog you are on, 
which is why others may find your presence something they would rather do 
without.

In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology of religion, a subject I 
am hardly familiar with. I was wondering if in those readings she came across 
any sociological explanations for this behaviour wherein an individual or group 
wishes to suppress others expressing a counter view. Buck often talks with what 
I would call a religious style of speech, basically substituting 'unified 
field' for 'god', and from time to time makes these suggestions for limiting 
free speech. He wants to get rid of the TM-haters, as if he hates TM-haters, 
and thus is a hater himself. Thus he becomes just like those he would have 
removed.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology 
 of religion, a subject I am hardly familiar with. 

You probably meant to type Barry in that sentence.
I'm the one who studied and continues to study the
sociology of religion. It should be rather apparent
that Judy never has. :-)

 I was wondering if in those readings she came across 
 any sociological explanations for this behaviour 
 wherein an individual or group wishes to suppress 
 others expressing a counter view. 

Sociologists rarely deal with explanations. Like
Buddhists in a way, they tend to deal more with pin-
pointing that which is than with trying to come up
with explanations for how it got that way.

That said, the desire to suppress what a group con-
siders heresy in others is associated in sociology
with a degraded phase of the history of a group or
a religion, one in which its ascendancy is long past
and it is starting to lose members. 

 Buck often talks with what I would call a religious 
 style of speech, basically substituting 'unified field' 
 for 'god', and from time to time makes these suggestions 
 for limiting free speech. He wants to get rid of the TM-
 haters, as if he hates TM-haters, and thus is a hater 
 himself. Thus he becomes just like those he would have 
 removed.

I cannot disagree, having made the same point myself.

The same person who was kept out of the domes he 
considers so important for being a heretic wants to
keep them off of his forum. Yeah, right. 





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Richard J. Williams


   Ann has been in touch via email with many other 
   people from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult 
   whom Vaj might have known in the past, revealing 
   how to get in touch with him. They have now been 
   hounding him trying to get him to talk on the 
   telephone with them...
  
  I have never given anyone Vaj's personal contact 
  information... 
 
turquoiseb:
 I'm replying to this just in case I was given 
 misinformation about your role in setting fellow 
 stalkers on Vaj's ass...

So, who gave Turq the 'misinformation' that set the 
stalkers on Vaj's ass? Rick or Alex might have a 
thing or two to say about this.

I mean, as long as Turq is outing people on FFL, why
not just have him tell us who the drunks in the bar 
were, that he was eavesdropping on and how in hell
did they know Vaj and Ann? LoL!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
 In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology of
 religion

No, I did not, Xeno. Barry's the one who prattles about
the sociology of religion.

Might I suggest you learn how to use the Advanced Search
feature here and check the archives before you make
statements about past traffic on this forum?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology 
  of religion, a subject I am hardly familiar with. 
 
 You probably meant to type Barry in that sentence.
 I'm the one who studied and continues to study the
 sociology of religion. It should be rather apparent
 that Judy never has. :-)

She said in a post she had been reading about this subject, and I meant 'Judy' 
when I typed. I was just prodding to see if she had a comment about this 
particular issue, and I was not looking for an argument.

On another subject, I was going through papers on my desk and found a version 
of your post 'manufactured needs' which I had taken off the web and reformatted 
for printing on a single page. That was one of the funniest things I have ever 
read. Your most recent one was pretty good too. I just opened it based on the 
subject line, not even noticing you had made the post and started reading. I 
started thinking 'boy they must be hard up for cash again', until I realised 
this was from you.

Governments and religions seem to gravitate in the direction of being 
kleptocracies, where funds are shifted out of the hands of the 'lesser classes' 
and funneled into the upper echelons of the organisation or society.
 
  I was wondering if in those readings she came across 
  any sociological explanations for this behaviour 
  wherein an individual or group wishes to suppress 
  others expressing a counter view. 
 
 Sociologists rarely deal with explanations. Like
 Buddhists in a way, they tend to deal more with pin-
 pointing that which is than with trying to come up
 with explanations for how it got that way.
 
 That said, the desire to suppress what a group con-
 siders heresy in others is associated in sociology
 with a degraded phase of the history of a group or
 a religion, one in which its ascendancy is long past
 and it is starting to lose members. 
 
  Buck often talks with what I would call a religious 
  style of speech, basically substituting 'unified field' 
  for 'god', and from time to time makes these suggestions 
  for limiting free speech. He wants to get rid of the TM-
  haters, as if he hates TM-haters, and thus is a hater 
  himself. Thus he becomes just like those he would have 
  removed.
 
 I cannot disagree, having made the same point myself.
 
 The same person who was kept out of the domes he 
 considers so important for being a heretic wants to
 keep them off of his forum. Yeah, right.





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
  It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
  credibility as someone who was actually there has
  been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
  has been in touch via email with many other people
  from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
  might have known in the past, revealing how to get
  in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
  trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
  As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
 
 Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are purposefully
 skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have never given anyone Vaj's
 personal contact information. Anyone who has been in touch with
 Mr Vaj is either a family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew
 how to contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out
 and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?

Good grief. It's been clear for some time that what Vaj
says in his public posts is not to be trusted. Now we
find that he's telling even more blatant lies in email.
I guess that isn't surprising, but it's very worrisome,
given that the people he's lying about in private have
no way to know what's being said about them and thus no
way to point out that it's untruthful.

Perhaps we should be grateful to Barry in this case for
spilling the beans in public. Unless, of course, *he's*
lying about what Vaj told him. Goodness knows he has no
compunctions whatsoever about lying in his public posts.
One can only imagine what falsehoods he must be telling
in private.

I find it astonishing and inexplicable that some people
are so uncomfortable with reality that they have to make
up their own.




[FairfieldLife] Fw: How Negativity and Complaining Literally Rot Your Brain

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
Received yesterday.  Enjoy!  Especially article #1  AND...please don't shoot 
messenger.  Thank you 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MTD

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
Buck wrote:  May you live in interesting times.  Which is actually Chinese 
INSULT!  Thank you 



 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MTD
 

  


 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   MTD = Michael T. Doughney
   
   http://minet.org/
  
 
 The blockbuster growth in American religion is happening among a category the 
 authors dub the Nones - people who claim no religious affiliation, but most 
 of whom believe in God.
 
 This is the spiritual but not religious crowd. About 17% of America belongs 
 to their number, three percentage points higher than mainline Protestantism.
 
 But the Nones number is deceptively low, understating the generational wave 
 now breaking upon the US religious landscape. Among young adults aged 18-29, 
 30% are Nones, and their numbers are rapidly rising.


May the Force be with you, in spite of these TM-haters.  Hagelin with the DLF 
are driving a spiritual counter-attack right through this breech in these 
demographic numbers in both youth as well as boomers identifying as 'spiritual' 
and/or 'not religious'.  David Lynch and Hagelin are culturally timely, 
significant and revolutionary in trend.  May you live in interesting times.   
The fomenting anti-meditation haters are nothing better than angry 
bush-whacking counter-revolutionaries to the larger spiritual change happening.
-Buck in the Dome 

  
  Yes as the article concludes about MTD,
  At some point, the Nones may discover that neither MTD nor atheism can 
  give them the otherworldly hope they need to endure and to triumph over 
  true suffering.  The MTD's are certainly pitiable.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
   
Moralistic Therapeutic Deism:
According to Smith's research, MTD is the default religion of nearly 
all American young people, both Christian and non-Christian, who are a 
generation of theological illiterates (Mormon youth are a fascinating 
exception).

MTD teaches that God exists and wants us to be nice, and that happiness 
is the point of life. In MTD, God, who is something like a combination 
Divine Butler and Cosmic Therapist, doesn't have to be involved in 
one's life unless one needs something.

It's the perfect pseudo-religion for an individualist, consumerist, 
prosperous culture. You can see why a generation raised on MTD would 
have no interest in traditional religion, with its truth claims and 
strictures.

If God expects nothing of you but to be nice and to be happy, why roll 
out of bed on Sunday morning, even for the most progressive of 
liturgies?

America's postmodern religious future, then, would appear to belong to 
theological slackers who believe in a vague deity who makes no demands, 
and only provides psychological comfort. Who needs that mush? At least 
atheists have the courage of their lack of religious convictions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19262884

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 O, The Unified Field
 
  It is this combination of beliefs that they label Moralistic 
 Therapeutic Deism:
 A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over human 
 life on earth.
 God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other, as taught 
 in the Bible and by most world religions.
 The central goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about 
 oneself.
 God does not need to be particularly involved in one's life except 
 when God is needed to resolve a problem.
 Good people go to heaven when they die.
 These points of belief were compiled from interviews with 
 approximately 3,000 teenagers.[4]

   
  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Fw: It's More Important to Be Kind Than Clever

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
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Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
   credibility as someone who was actually there has
   been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
   has been in touch via email with many other people
   from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
   might have known in the past, revealing how to get
   in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
   trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
   As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
  
  Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are 
  purposefully skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have 
  never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. 
  Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a 
  family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to 
  contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out 
  and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?
 
 I am merely passing along what I have been told. If it
 is incorrect, my bad. But it certainly seems believable
 to me, given how much you still seem to obsess on Robin
 and those of your fellow cultists who still seem to be 
 unwilling to admit, even as a possibility, We were young, 
 naive, and stupid, and we got taken in by a charismatic 
 charlatan.
 
 I would say that *your* credibility is more established
 by you still thinking of your fellow cultists as us
 and as family -- 25 years later - and still obsessing 
 on the cult and its founder by stalking him than by 
 anything else.
 
 I'm still aghast that *anyone* would have been taken
 in by him and his act in the first place. But to still
 be hanging around acting like a groupie, trying to get 
 him to notice you? NOT something that makes me want to 
 interact with you. 
 
 Have you *looked up* Squeaky Fromme? Do you know who
 you are being compared to? 
 
 [ That last is a rhetorical question. I'm replying to
 this just in case I was given misinformation about your
 role in setting fellow stalkers on Vaj's ass. I doubt
 that this is the case, but just in case. I will *not*,
 however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
 as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
 compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
 been dumped. Try to handle it better than Judy has. ]



The Fox Noise machine trains voters to decide who is telling the truth by using 
their gut. Steven calls it *truthiness*… a quality characterizing a truth 
that a person claims to know intuitively from the gut or because it feels 
right without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts. 
(Wikipedia). 

Barry has become a victim of *truthiness.* He has no evidence to support or 
refute anything Vaj says, he just *feels* it's true. Barry is a True Believer. 
Who knew? I fear what would happen to Barry if he suddenly found out Vaj is a 
liar:
http://youtu.be/EzVxsYzXI_Y

P.S. Barry. Oops! I forgot to sign out of another account and accidentally sent 
this message to you via private email. Oh well, it can happen to anyone, even 
Dan Friedman.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Effort to declare Arunachala as a World Heritage Site

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
Thank you, Richard, all signed.  Please keep us updated.  Hang in there.  But 
stay vibed up 



 From: Richard rich...@infinitepie.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Effort to declare Arunachala as a World Heritage Site
 

  
There is a new effort to declare Arunachala as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. 
Learn about the effort and find out how to sign the petition.

http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2012/08/31/join-the-effort-to-declare-arunachala-as-a-world-heritage-site/

This is important. If you love Arunachala, please help.

Richard


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb

Speaking  to Invisible Obama last night, in a performance that seemed to
have  been written by Timothy Leary and performed by Cheech  Chong,
Clint Eastwood
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/clint-eastwood-s-turn-\
at-gop-convention-part-of-republicans-swooning-over-stars.htmlwas
able to drive home to tens of millions of viewers the central  message
of this year's Republican National Convention: We Are  Delusional and
Detached from Reality. Vote for Us!

The footage of Eastwood
http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/08/30/clint-eastwood-we-gotta-\
let-him-go.html   rambling and mumbling to his Harvey - President
Obama - will be  played to audiences a hundred years from now as the
Most Bizarre  Convention Moment Ever. The people of the future will know
nothing about  Dirty Harry or Josey Wales or a Million Dollar Baby. 
They WILL know about the night a crazy old man hijacked a national 
party's most important gathering so he could tell the President to 
literally go do something to himself (i.e. fuck  himself). In those few 
moments (and these days, it only takes a few moments—see Anthony 
Weiner), he completely upended and redefined how he'll be remembered by 
younger and future generations.

A  few years ago, at the annual National Board of Review film awards
held  at Tavern on the Green in New York, I was there to hand out one of
the  honors. When it came time for Eastwood to accept his, he went up to
the  microphone and growled to me in front of the audience, If you ever
show  up at my house with that camera, I'll shoot you on sight. The
audience  laughed, I laughed, but the person who issued the threat
wasn't  laughing. That creeped me out a bit.  I made sure never to go
stand on  Clint Eastwood's lawn.

But  as I said, the best outcome from the incident last night was that
it  showed just how out of touch Republicans are these days. It's as if
they  want a divorce from us, the American mainstream, so they can go
live in  the land of legitimate rapes and ice caps that don't melt. Most
Americans don't live there on Planet Koo-koo, and I don't suspect many 
will be visiting there any time soon.

Thanks, Clint: you made our day!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 [AP, Fairfield, Iowa] In a move seen by many as a tribute to one of
the
 biggest TM heroes, Clint Eastwood, the organization that teaches
 Transcendental Meditation today announced a new Advanced Technique.
 This technique is seen as an extension to the TM-Sidhi program, which
 was supposed to invoke ritam by delivering to people hopping around
on
 their butts all that they desire in life.

 Since, well over 35 years after the TM-Sidhi technique was introduced,
 it's been made abundantly clear that its practitioners have *not*
gotten
 all that they desire in life, the TM organization is addressing that
 issue directly, in the form of a new form of fertilizer to invoke
the
 mysterious power of ritam even further.

 The new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique aims at removing the
 *obstacles* to TM-Sidhi practitioners getting everything they desire.
 Clearly, said Bevan Morris, Spokesbutt Emeritus for the
butt-bouncers,
 something has been *preventing* the full flow of ritam. A negative
 force has been getting in the way of the powerful Waves Of Woo
generated
 by bouncing on our butts, and keeping our desires from being instantly
 fulfilled by ritam.

 Morris continued, We now know who and what this negative force is.
It's
 a bunch of misguided souls -- many of them paid by the CIA or the
Dalai
 Lama or both -- who consistently thwart the awesome power of ritam by
 saying things about us that are...uh...true, but that we don't want
 said. The time has now come to act, and avoid the problem before it
 comes.

 Although actual details of the new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique
are
 a deep, dark secret, and no one is supposed to talk about them, AP has
 received information from a whistleblower who learned the new
technique
 last night and posted his impressions of it on WikiLeaks.

 He says, It's basically a visualization technique. What you do is to
 imagine the person who you feel is an obstacle to you getting
everything
 you desire, and visualize them seated upon a golden throne. Then,
after
 forming a clear picture of the horrible enemy of all that is holy in
 your mind and yelling at them for a while, you mentally press the
button
 located on the top of the golden throne, chant the holy mantra Make
my
 day! and flush the person and his or her negativity away. I'm not
sure
 whether all of your desires are supposed to start becoming fulfilled
 after you mentally flush the TM critics away or when you sign the
check
 for the $10,000 the course costs -- all I can say is that like all TM
 courses that preceded it this new one didn't work as promised. Maybe
you
 have to be senile like Clint Eastwood for it to work. Anyway, I'm
doing
 what I should have done long ago and blowing the whistle and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread turquoiseb
Although I carefully pasted it in at the top, Yahoo's editor chose to
delete the headline, byline, intro, and source of this article. For the
nitpickers, it's written by Michael Moore, and can be found at The Daily
Beast. The photo of TM's poster boy was found by me.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/michael-moore-on-clint-\
eastwood-s-delusional-and-detached-from-reality-speech-at-the-republican\
-national-convention.html
 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/michael-moore-on-clint\
-eastwood-s-delusional-and-detached-from-reality-speech-at-the-republica\
n-national-convention.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:


 Speaking  to Invisible Obama last night, in a performance that seemed
to
 have  been written by Timothy Leary and performed by Cheech  Chong,
 Clint Eastwood

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/clint-eastwood-s-turn-\
\
 at-gop-convention-part-of-republicans-swooning-over-stars.htmlwas
 able to drive home to tens of millions of viewers the central  message
 of this year's Republican National Convention: We Are  Delusional and
 Detached from Reality. Vote for Us!

 The footage of Eastwood

http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/08/30/clint-eastwood-we-gotta-\
\
 let-him-go.html   rambling and mumbling to his Harvey - President
 Obama - will be  played to audiences a hundred years from now as the
 Most Bizarre  Convention Moment Ever. The people of the future will
know
 nothing about  Dirty Harry or Josey Wales or a Million Dollar Baby.
 They WILL know about the night a crazy old man hijacked a national
 party's most important gathering so he could tell the President to
 literally go do something to himself (i.e. fuck  himself). In those
few
 moments (and these days, it only takes a few moments—see Anthony
 Weiner), he completely upended and redefined how he'll be remembered
by
 younger and future generations.

 A  few years ago, at the annual National Board of Review film awards
 held  at Tavern on the Green in New York, I was there to hand out one
of
 the  honors. When it came time for Eastwood to accept his, he went up
to
 the  microphone and growled to me in front of the audience, If you
ever
 show  up at my house with that camera, I'll shoot you on sight. The
 audience  laughed, I laughed, but the person who issued the threat
 wasn't  laughing. That creeped me out a bit.  I made sure never to go
 stand on  Clint Eastwood's lawn.

 But  as I said, the best outcome from the incident last night was that
 it  showed just how out of touch Republicans are these days. It's as
if
 they  want a divorce from us, the American mainstream, so they can go
 live in  the land of legitimate rapes and ice caps that don't melt.
Most
 Americans don't live there on Planet Koo-koo, and I don't suspect many
 will be visiting there any time soon.

 Thanks, Clint: you made our day!



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  [AP, Fairfield, Iowa] In a move seen by many as a tribute to one of
 the
  biggest TM heroes, Clint Eastwood, the organization that teaches
  Transcendental Meditation today announced a new Advanced
Technique.
  This technique is seen as an extension to the TM-Sidhi program,
which
  was supposed to invoke ritam by delivering to people hopping
around
 on
  their butts all that they desire in life.
 
  Since, well over 35 years after the TM-Sidhi technique was
introduced,
  it's been made abundantly clear that its practitioners have *not*
 gotten
  all that they desire in life, the TM organization is addressing that
  issue directly, in the form of a new form of fertilizer to invoke
 the
  mysterious power of ritam even further.
 
  The new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique aims at removing the
  *obstacles* to TM-Sidhi practitioners getting everything they
desire.
  Clearly, said Bevan Morris, Spokesbutt Emeritus for the
 butt-bouncers,
  something has been *preventing* the full flow of ritam. A negative
  force has been getting in the way of the powerful Waves Of Woo
 generated
  by bouncing on our butts, and keeping our desires from being
instantly
  fulfilled by ritam.
 
  Morris continued, We now know who and what this negative force is.
 It's
  a bunch of misguided souls -- many of them paid by the CIA or the
 Dalai
  Lama or both -- who consistently thwart the awesome power of ritam
by
  saying things about us that are...uh...true, but that we don't want
  said. The time has now come to act, and avoid the problem before it
  comes.
 
  Although actual details of the new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique
 are
  a deep, dark secret, and no one is supposed to talk about them, AP
has
  received information from a whistleblower who learned the new
 technique
  last night and posted his impressions of it on WikiLeaks.
 
  He says, It's basically a visualization technique. What you do is
to
  imagine the person who you feel is an obstacle to you getting
 everything
  you desire, and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious

2012-08-31 Thread Mike Dixon
OK, so you're upset that the Defense Department had to read the book, as 
opposed to the manuscript, to find out what's in it. I was a bit more upset 
that *we* had to pass a law, Obamacare, to find out what's in *it*. Such is 
life.  


 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious
  

   
 
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:

 FWIW, I read last weak, in the Houston Chronicle, that the
 Pentagon has received a copy of the manuscript and is
 currently reviewing it to see if there are any problems,
 which has only delayed it's release.

The Pentagon obtained a copy of the published book (not the
manuscript, obviously) and is reviewing it, but not only
has this not delayed the book's release, the release date
has been moved up a week (see the NYT article I cited).

And as the paragraph I quoted noted (didn't you read it?)
the problem the Defense Department has is that the author
didn't submit the ms. for reviewing before the book was
announced, which is what he was required to do.

 As for *Swift- boating * Obama, I don't know that it does,
 by any account.

If the account in it of how bin Laden died is true, the
administration account isn't, which may be blown up into
a big deal by Obama's opponents. But I agree, if there
was anything more than that in the book, we'd have heard
about it by now, because various media outlets have got
their hands on copies of it.

 However, the W.H. seems to be nervous about this book.

No, it doesn't. That's just what the right-wingers are
claiming to promote the book. There's no evidence of
nervousness at the White House.

  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:21 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious
 
 
   
 
 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ 
 wrote:
 
  I'm not so sure he's violating any confidentiality agreements.
  Can you name any?
 
 FWIW:
 
 The publisher and author have endured some public criticism for
 failing to provide a copy of the manuscript for government
 vetting before the book was announced. The Defense Department
 said last week that the author had violated department
 regulations requiring review of any official information
 intended for public release that relates to military matters, 
 national security issues or subjects of significant concern to
 the department.
 
 http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/release-of-book-on-bin-laden-raid-is-moved-up-a-week/
 
 http://tinyurl.com/9mv6pyr
 
  The story, I heard in the media, is that all proceeds from this 
  book will go to charity. I suspect your suspicions are based on
  the idea that he's, somehow, *swift-boating* Obama. 60 Minutes
  (see Drudge Report) is interviewing him. Why not hold off
  judgment on this true American hero until he speaks?
 
 But the swift-boating of Kerry was entirely legitimate,
 wasn't it? So why should you object if this book swift-
 boats Obama?
 
 BTW, while the proceeds of sales of the book may be going to
 charity, I have my doubts as to whether the rest of the money
 he receives as a result of having written it will also go to
 charity (speaking fees, etc.). I could be wrong, but royalties
 are not the only income the author of a bestseller may derive
 from it.


   
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread Bhairitu
I don't pay much attention to the every 4 year hoo-haw that goes on in 
this country other than rip the candidates such as holey underwear 
Rom-knees. Friends like to say that Obama got elected because by 2008 
most of the country hated bush so wanted to flush Republicans down the 
toilet. And many that voted for Obama because they believed he would 
trash all the fascist stuff that president Cheney put in effect (Dubya 
was just his hand puppet). Didn't happen.

Of course we have people who couldn't run a lemonade stand believing 
that a corporate CEO like Rom-knees can do a better job running the 
country. That's going from the frying pan into the fire as far as 
neo-liberalism goes and one step farther into the corporate communist 
world of Blade Runner. That's right, the sheeple who support Rom-knees 
and the Republican party are supporting a form of communism coming into 
existence. Of course most of them are too dumb to ever even provide a 
definition of communism.

As for Yahoo I like to use them as a sort of moderate link for news 
stories but I've noticed their leaning to some kind of corporatist 
decorum but that is not unusual for many of the news outlets. I got a 
item in the email this morning from LinkedIn that Yahoo's new CEO 
replacing the CMO while they were on vacation. I know that sends 
shockwaves throughout a corporation. It did when my job role was changed 
while I was away to a Microsoft developers seminar on DirectX. I was 
essentially demoted while away by my new boss and I essentially came 
back as said fuck you and gave notice.


On 08/31/2012 09:05 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 Although I carefully pasted it in at the top, Yahoo's editor chose to
 delete the headline, byline, intro, and source of this article. For the
 nitpickers, it's written by Michael Moore, and can be found at The Daily
 Beast. The photo of TM's poster boy was found by me.

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/michael-moore-on-clint-\
 eastwood-s-delusional-and-detached-from-reality-speech-at-the-republican\
 -national-convention.html
   
 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/michael-moore-on-clint\
 -eastwood-s-delusional-and-detached-from-reality-speech-at-the-republica\
 n-national-convention.html
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Speaking  to Invisible Obama last night, in a performance that seemed
 to
 have  been written by Timothy Leary and performed by Cheech  Chong,
 Clint Eastwood

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/clint-eastwood-s-turn-\
 \
 at-gop-convention-part-of-republicans-swooning-over-stars.htmlwas
 able to drive home to tens of millions of viewers the central  message
 of this year's Republican National Convention: We Are  Delusional and
 Detached from Reality. Vote for Us!

 The footage of Eastwood

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/08/30/clint-eastwood-we-gotta-\
 \
 let-him-go.html   rambling and mumbling to his Harvey - President
 Obama - will be  played to audiences a hundred years from now as the
 Most Bizarre  Convention Moment Ever. The people of the future will
 know
 nothing about  Dirty Harry or Josey Wales or a Million Dollar Baby.
 They WILL know about the night a crazy old man hijacked a national
 party's most important gathering so he could tell the President to
 literally go do something to himself (i.e. fuck  himself). In those
 few
 moments (and these days, it only takes a few moments—see Anthony
 Weiner), he completely upended and redefined how he'll be remembered
 by
 younger and future generations.

 A  few years ago, at the annual National Board of Review film awards
 held  at Tavern on the Green in New York, I was there to hand out one
 of
 the  honors. When it came time for Eastwood to accept his, he went up
 to
 the  microphone and growled to me in front of the audience, If you
 ever
 show  up at my house with that camera, I'll shoot you on sight. The
 audience  laughed, I laughed, but the person who issued the threat
 wasn't  laughing. That creeped me out a bit.  I made sure never to go
 stand on  Clint Eastwood's lawn.

 But  as I said, the best outcome from the incident last night was that
 it  showed just how out of touch Republicans are these days. It's as
 if
 they  want a divorce from us, the American mainstream, so they can go
 live in  the land of legitimate rapes and ice caps that don't melt.
 Most
 Americans don't live there on Planet Koo-koo, and I don't suspect many
 will be visiting there any time soon.

 Thanks, Clint: you made our day!



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 [AP, Fairfield, Iowa] In a move seen by many as a tribute to one of
 the
 biggest TM heroes, Clint Eastwood, the organization that teaches
 Transcendental Meditation today announced a new Advanced
 Technique.
 This technique is seen as an extension to the TM-Sidhi program,
 which
 was supposed to invoke ritam by delivering to people hopping
 around
 on
 their butts 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MTD

2012-08-31 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Buck wrote:  May you live in interesting times.  Which is actually Chinese 
 INSULT!  Thank you 

My book has it as a Chinese curse, the Scots had the same idea
apparently.


  From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:36 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MTD
  
 
   
 
 
  
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
   j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
MTD = Michael T. Doughney

http://minet.org/
   
  
  The blockbuster growth in American religion is happening among a category 
  the authors dub the Nones - people who claim no religious affiliation, 
  but most of whom believe in God.
  
  This is the spiritual but not religious crowd. About 17% of America 
  belongs to their number, three percentage points higher than mainline 
  Protestantism.
  
  But the Nones number is deceptively low, understating the generational wave 
  now breaking upon the US religious landscape. Among young adults aged 
  18-29, 30% are Nones, and their numbers are rapidly rising.
 
 
 May the Force be with you, in spite of these TM-haters.  Hagelin with the DLF 
 are driving a spiritual counter-attack right through this breech in these 
 demographic numbers in both youth as well as boomers identifying as 
 'spiritual' and/or 'not religious'.  David Lynch and Hagelin are culturally 
 timely, significant and revolutionary in trend.  May you live in interesting 
 times.   The fomenting anti-meditation haters are nothing better than angry 
 bush-whacking counter-revolutionaries to the larger spiritual change 
 happening.
 -Buck in the Dome 
 
   
   Yes as the article concludes about MTD,
   At some point, the Nones may discover that neither MTD nor atheism can 
   give them the otherworldly hope they need to endure and to triumph over 
   true suffering.  The MTD's are certainly pitiable.
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:

 Moralistic Therapeutic Deism:
 According to Smith's research, MTD is the default religion of nearly 
 all American young people, both Christian and non-Christian, who are 
 a generation of theological illiterates (Mormon youth are a 
 fascinating exception).
 
 MTD teaches that God exists and wants us to be nice, and that 
 happiness is the point of life. In MTD, God, who is something like a 
 combination Divine Butler and Cosmic Therapist, doesn't have to be 
 involved in one's life unless one needs something.
 
 It's the perfect pseudo-religion for an individualist, consumerist, 
 prosperous culture. You can see why a generation raised on MTD would 
 have no interest in traditional religion, with its truth claims and 
 strictures.
 
 If God expects nothing of you but to be nice and to be happy, why 
 roll out of bed on Sunday morning, even for the most progressive of 
 liturgies?
 
 America's postmodern religious future, then, would appear to belong 
 to theological slackers who believe in a vague deity who makes no 
 demands, and only provides psychological comfort. Who needs that 
 mush? At least atheists have the courage of their lack of religious 
 convictions.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19262884
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:
 
  O, The Unified Field
  
   It is this combination of beliefs that they label Moralistic 
  Therapeutic Deism:
  A god exists who created and ordered the world and watches over 
  human life on earth.
  God wants people to be good, nice, and fair to each other, as 
  taught in the Bible and by most world religions.
  The central goal of life is to be happy and to feel good about 
  oneself.
  God does not need to be particularly involved in one's life except 
  when God is needed to resolve a problem.
  Good people go to heaven when they die.
  These points of belief were compiled from interviews with 
  approximately 3,000 teenagers.[4]
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 OK, so you're upset that the Defense Department had to read
 the book, as opposed to the manuscript, to find out what's
 in it.

I'm not even the tiniest bit upset. Don't know why you're
imagining that. It's the Defense Department that seems to
be upset, as what I've already posted explains.

What I *would* be upset about is if the Defense Department
manufactured an excuse to prosecute him for disobeying
regulations when he hadn't revealed anything that would be
damaging to national security.

 I was a bit more upset that *we* had to pass a law, Obamacare,
 to find out what's in *it*. Such is life.

Besides being right-wing bullshit on its own terms, this
isn't even a sensible parallel.



 
 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:06 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious
   
 
    
  
 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ 
 wrote:
 
  FWIW, I read last weak, in the Houston Chronicle, that the
  Pentagon has received a copy of the manuscript and is
  currently reviewing it to see if there are any problems,
  which has only delayed it's release.
 
 The Pentagon obtained a copy of the published book (not the
 manuscript, obviously) and is reviewing it, but not only
 has this not delayed the book's release, the release date
 has been moved up a week (see the NYT article I cited).
 
 And as the paragraph I quoted noted (didn't you read it?)
 the problem the Defense Department has is that the author
 didn't submit the ms. for reviewing before the book was
 announced, which is what he was required to do.
 
  As for *Swift- boating * Obama, I don't know that it does,
  by any account.
 
 If the account in it of how bin Laden died is true, the
 administration account isn't, which may be blown up into
 a big deal by Obama's opponents. But I agree, if there
 was anything more than that in the book, we'd have heard
 about it by now, because various media outlets have got
 their hands on copies of it.
 
  However, the W.H. seems to be nervous about this book.
 
 No, it doesn't. That's just what the right-wingers are
 claiming to promote the book. There's no evidence of
 nervousness at the White House.
 
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:21 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious
  
  
    
  
  --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ 
  wrote:
  
   I'm not so sure he's violating any confidentiality agreements.
   Can you name any?
  
  FWIW:
  
  The publisher and author have endured some public criticism for
  failing to provide a copy of the manuscript for government
  vetting before the book was announced. The Defense Department
  said last week that the author had violated department
  regulations requiring review of any official information
  intended for public release that relates to military matters, 
  national security issues or subjects of significant concern to
  the department.
  
  http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/release-of-book-on-bin-laden-raid-is-moved-up-a-week/
  
  http://tinyurl.com/9mv6pyr
  
   The story, I heard in the media, is that all proceeds from this 
   book will go to charity. I suspect your suspicions are based on
   the idea that he's, somehow, *swift-boating* Obama. 60 Minutes
   (see Drudge Report) is interviewing him. Why not hold off
   judgment on this true American hero until he speaks?
  
  But the swift-boating of Kerry was entirely legitimate,
  wasn't it? So why should you object if this book swift-
  boats Obama?
  
  BTW, while the proceeds of sales of the book may be going to
  charity, I have my doubts as to whether the rest of the money
  he receives as a result of having written it will also go to
  charity (speaking fees, etc.). I could be wrong, but royalties
  are not the only income the author of a bestseller may derive
  from it.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 snip
  In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology of
  religion
 
 No, I did not, Xeno. Barry's the one who prattles about
 the sociology of religion.

You are right. My memory is playing tricks on me. Maybe I should take some time 
off. And this was a recent post you made that had the phrase in it that I 
remembered incorrectly, you were referring to your nemesis. 
 
 Might I suggest you learn how to use the Advanced Search
 feature here and check the archives before you make
 statements about past traffic on this forum?

Yes you may. That is what I did post hoc here, to my dismay.

There are days when 
one should be able 
to pluck off one's head 
like a dented or worn 
helmet, straight from 
the nape and collarbone 
(those crackling branches!)

and place it firmly down 
in the bed of a flowing stream. 
Clear, clean, chill currents 
coursing and spuming through 
the sour and stale compartments 
of the brain, dimmed eardrums, 
bleared eyesockets, filmed tongue.

And then set it back again 
on the base of the shoulders:
well tamped down, of course, 
the laved skin and mouth, 
the marble of the eyes 
rinsed and ready
for love; for prophecy?

 --John Montague



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@ wrote:
  
   In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology 
   of religion, a subject I am hardly familiar with. 
  
  You probably meant to type Barry in that sentence.
  I'm the one who studied and continues to study the
  sociology of religion. It should be rather apparent
  that Judy never has. :-)
 
 She said in a post she had been reading about this subject,
 and I meant 'Judy' when I typed.

No, I did not say that. You goofed again, Xeno. Just admit
it and move on.


And speaking of being mistaken, from the person who *does*
claim not only to have studied the sociology of religion
but also to have been trained as a sociologist:

snip
  That said, the desire to suppress what a group con-
  siders heresy in others is associated in sociology
  with a degraded phase of the history of a group or
  a religion, one in which its ascendancy is long past
  and it is starting to lose members.

Hilariously wrong in the case of Christianity, Judaism,
and Islam, of course. Even Buddhism had a phase, centuries
ago, of going after perceived heretics.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread Richard J. Williams


Bhairitu:
 I don't pay much attention to the every 4 year 
 hoo-haw that goes on in this country other than 
 rip the candidates such as holey underwear 
 Rom-knees... 

That's funny coming from a Hindu who believes in 
the spiritual healing properties of Shiva'S 
LINGAM! LoL!

You mean, 'holy underwear' as opposed to a silk 
bedsheet, a dhoti, naked on a tiger skin, or a 
fakir-codpiece?  LoL! 

So, a candidates relgious views influence your
voting decision. You're not making any sense. 

Your tantra religion probably has more left-handed
secret finger snapping spells than Carter had 
little liver pills!

Go figure.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/31/2012 11:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 Bhairitu:
 I don't pay much attention to the every 4 year
 hoo-haw that goes on in this country other than
 rip the candidates such as holey underwear
 Rom-knees...

 That's funny coming from a Hindu who believes in
 the spiritual healing properties of Shiva'S
 LINGAM! LoL!

So is this some of your bogus psychic ability or just a mistaken 
projection?  Where did I ever say anything about the healing properties 
of a Shiva lingam?


 You mean, 'holy underwear' as opposed to a silk
 bedsheet, a dhoti, naked on a tiger skin, or a
 fakir-codpiece?  LoL!

No, holey underwear not holy.  Mormon undies have holes in them.


 So, a candidates relgious views influence your
 voting decision. You're not making any sense.

Nope, his political views are whacked, corporate elitist and against the 
public.  I do think that Salt Lake would want to have a lot of influence 
in his ruling.  And it would send us into a Handmaid's Tale society.  
Tell me, Willy, do you really want to live in such a country?  Even your 
buddy Alex Jones doesn't.


 Your tantra religion probably has more left-handed
 secret finger snapping spells than Carter had
 little liver pills!

You mean something like the secret mantras of TM and the secret 
Sidhis of TM?


 Go figure.

Check your math.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 7,600 years ago, Black Sea refugees

2012-08-31 Thread Richard J. Williams


Yifu:
  By 5,000 years ago, farmers had reached Ireland, 
 Spain, Ethiopia and India...
 
The Rigveda itself shows an advanced and sophisticated 
culture, the product of a long development, a 
civilisation that could not have been delivered to 
India on horseback. 

It is difficult to believe that a primitive, nomadic 
people were capable of producing the Rig Veda and a 
high urban Vedic society described therein, within the 
amount of time alloted to them by some historians.

The archaeological site called 'Dwarka' relates to the 
time after 1500 BC and presents a culture intermediate 
between the Indus Valley Civilization and later India, 
not an earlier submerged culture. 

This shows a continuous urban civilzation in India 
throughout historical times. The Vedic people were 
already building stone cities and engaged in maritime 
trade when they were supposed to be just entering India 
as primitive nomads. 

Recent excavations at 'Mehrgarh' show the antecedents 
of the Indus Valley culture go back earlier than 6000 
BC and that it did not develop from an outside 
influence. 

The Rig Veda is the literary record which describes 
battles between kings and their organized armies and 
the city fortresses in which they dwelt. There is no 
mention in the Rig Veda about a random invasion or 
nomadic movements of ignorant peasants from the steppes. 

The Rig Veda is the product of an organized society in 
and around urban centers, with a large rural population. 

The battles described in the Rigveda were not fought 
between invaders and natives but between people 
belonging to the same culture? Go figure.





[FairfieldLife] Jill Stein

2012-08-31 Thread raunchydog
Green Party candidate for president, Jill Stein's Green New Deal is a revival 
of FDR's New Deal and exactly what our country needs to get back on its 
economic feet. Too bad a 3rd party candidate has zero chance of getting elected 
without corporate megabucks. 

http://youtu.be/asqKKrXLxhY



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is it they're writing to?

2012-08-31 Thread Emily Reyn
Yeah, the whole comparison to Squeaky Fromme is an incredibly hostile and 
demeaning and horrible thing to say, really.  So is everything else he said 
targeted at Ann.  Simply despicable and misogynistic.  Yuk.  Barry, you owe Ann 
and apology.  I wouldn't trust that man to have my back for any reason, ever. 
 



 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is it they're writing to?
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 You gained the same impression that
 many others did, that so far Ann's presence here pretty
 much revolves around her perception that FFL delivers up
 Robin to her as a captive audience.

Just out of curiosity, how many here have gained this
impression about Ann? Barry says many others, so one
has to assume there are at least three of you besides
Barry.

And if I may, what suggested to you that Ann perceives
FFL to deliver up Robin to her as a captive audience?
If this were the case, why would she have stuck around
for three months *after Robin had left*?

 He's never responded to anything she writes, nor even
 acknowledged her existence. Yet she's still on the Robin
 was and still is brilliant bandwagon. Call me crazy, but
 I think the best commentary on this so far was someone's
 comparison of her to Squeaky Fromme. 'Nuff said.

'Nuff said indeed. This is possibly the most fucked-up
remark ever from Barry. The person who made this
comparison was Bhairitu, but he was *joking* (if it's
possible to joke about Fromme).

snip
 Often (and the subject of this rap), such derailments seem
 to not even be aimed at the person they are presumably 
 written to. In many cases, the derailer is writing to
 someone who has made it crystal clear that he or she wants
 nothing to do with the derailer, and in many cases doesn't
 even bother to read what they write. They have been, in
 as real a sense as in the romantic one, been dumped.

Another fantastic mental invention of Barry's. I think
we have to conclude that the constant criticism directed
at him has finally unhinged his mind.

What follows is raving, pure and simple. It's completely
detached from reality.

 
 And, just as one finds in bars full of sad men and women
 desperate for someone -- anyone -- who will sit there and
 listen to them drone on endlessly about the person who
 dumped them and what horrible, nasty, inexcusably 
 inexcusable people the act of dumpage makes them. In bars, 
 you could deal with such people the same way people do in
 real life -- get up and move to the other side of the bar
 and leave them ranting to themselves. 
 
 Here, you can't. They can continue to rant, often pretending
 that they are *still writing directly to the person who has
 made it clear they aren't reading a word of it*. (Or, as in
 my case, only the first 10 words or so shown in Message View.)
 
 Few call them on this. WHY? Because IMO *they're* the ones
 reading it, and in fact *they're* the ones being written to.
 It's all part of a phenomenon we discussed briefly earlier,
 trying to form what you call associations with other 
 people, what I call cliques. 
 
 On one level, I think that people on Internet forums who 
 continue to rant angrily at people who have dumped them 
 (or defend and praise them just as embarrassingly) are in 
 the same ballpark as stalkers who stand outside the apart-
 ments of men or women who have dumped them romantically and 
 scream at their closed, double-paned-for-soundproofing-purposes 
 windows. The ranting is *not* for the purpose of communication; 
 it's a way of either venting their own line-on-stone anger 
 at the person who has dumped them or a way of (in their 
 minds) trying to get them back. 
 
 Because the dumper is not paying any attention to the some-
 what deranged dumpee, and thus refusing to become a captive
 audience for those they've dumped, the dumpees settle for 
 the next best thing. That is, the same thing that the 
 drunks in the bars settle for if they can get it. Someone
 -- anyone -- who will listen to them rant endlessly about 
 the horrible dumper and then hopefully either pile on to 
 ragging about them or, at the very least, respond with an 
 occasional Uh huh or Whatever you say, which the raging 
 dumpee interprets as meaning You go, girl or You rock, man. 
 
 Meanwhile I'm over here in another corner of the bar,
 wondering why others are still sitting there listening to
 someone drunk on attachment carrying on endlessly about it.



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New TM Advanced Technique: The Golden Throne Of Ritam

2012-08-31 Thread John
Excellent observation about Clint Eastwood's debacle last night.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Speaking  to Invisible Obama last night, in a performance that seemed to
 have  been written by Timothy Leary and performed by Cheech  Chong,
 Clint Eastwood
 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/31/clint-eastwood-s-turn-\
 at-gop-convention-part-of-republicans-swooning-over-stars.htmlwas
 able to drive home to tens of millions of viewers the central  message
 of this year's Republican National Convention: We Are  Delusional and
 Detached from Reality. Vote for Us!
 
 The footage of Eastwood
 http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/08/30/clint-eastwood-we-gotta-\
 let-him-go.html   rambling and mumbling to his Harvey - President
 Obama - will be  played to audiences a hundred years from now as the
 Most Bizarre  Convention Moment Ever. The people of the future will know
 nothing about  Dirty Harry or Josey Wales or a Million Dollar Baby. 
 They WILL know about the night a crazy old man hijacked a national 
 party's most important gathering so he could tell the President to 
 literally go do something to himself (i.e. fuck  himself). In those few 
 moments (and these days, it only takes a few moments—see Anthony 
 Weiner), he completely upended and redefined how he'll be remembered by 
 younger and future generations.
 
 A  few years ago, at the annual National Board of Review film awards
 held  at Tavern on the Green in New York, I was there to hand out one of
 the  honors. When it came time for Eastwood to accept his, he went up to
 the  microphone and growled to me in front of the audience, If you ever
 show  up at my house with that camera, I'll shoot you on sight. The
 audience  laughed, I laughed, but the person who issued the threat
 wasn't  laughing. That creeped me out a bit.  I made sure never to go
 stand on  Clint Eastwood's lawn.
 
 But  as I said, the best outcome from the incident last night was that
 it  showed just how out of touch Republicans are these days. It's as if
 they  want a divorce from us, the American mainstream, so they can go
 live in  the land of legitimate rapes and ice caps that don't melt. Most
 Americans don't live there on Planet Koo-koo, and I don't suspect many 
 will be visiting there any time soon.
 
 Thanks, Clint: you made our day!
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  [AP, Fairfield, Iowa] In a move seen by many as a tribute to one of
 the
  biggest TM heroes, Clint Eastwood, the organization that teaches
  Transcendental Meditation today announced a new Advanced Technique.
  This technique is seen as an extension to the TM-Sidhi program, which
  was supposed to invoke ritam by delivering to people hopping around
 on
  their butts all that they desire in life.
 
  Since, well over 35 years after the TM-Sidhi technique was introduced,
  it's been made abundantly clear that its practitioners have *not*
 gotten
  all that they desire in life, the TM organization is addressing that
  issue directly, in the form of a new form of fertilizer to invoke
 the
  mysterious power of ritam even further.
 
  The new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique aims at removing the
  *obstacles* to TM-Sidhi practitioners getting everything they desire.
  Clearly, said Bevan Morris, Spokesbutt Emeritus for the
 butt-bouncers,
  something has been *preventing* the full flow of ritam. A negative
  force has been getting in the way of the powerful Waves Of Woo
 generated
  by bouncing on our butts, and keeping our desires from being instantly
  fulfilled by ritam.
 
  Morris continued, We now know who and what this negative force is.
 It's
  a bunch of misguided souls -- many of them paid by the CIA or the
 Dalai
  Lama or both -- who consistently thwart the awesome power of ritam by
  saying things about us that are...uh...true, but that we don't want
  said. The time has now come to act, and avoid the problem before it
  comes.
 
  Although actual details of the new Golden Throne Of Ritam technique
 are
  a deep, dark secret, and no one is supposed to talk about them, AP has
  received information from a whistleblower who learned the new
 technique
  last night and posted his impressions of it on WikiLeaks.
 
  He says, It's basically a visualization technique. What you do is to
  imagine the person who you feel is an obstacle to you getting
 everything
  you desire, and visualize them seated upon a golden throne. Then,
 after
  forming a clear picture of the horrible enemy of all that is holy in
  your mind and yelling at them for a while, you mentally press the
 button
  located on the top of the golden throne, chant the holy mantra Make
 my
  day! and flush the person and his or her negativity away. I'm not
 sure
  whether all of your desires are supposed to start becoming fulfilled
  after you mentally flush the TM critics away or when you sign the
 check
  for the $10,000 the course costs -- all I 

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Re: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Emily Reyn
Even the first line that shows up on message view?  Like she even cares that 
you have dumped her? Like she even *expects*  your dumb ass (sorry Doctor) 
to respond civilly, let alone apologize for being so out of pocket on so many 
occasions.  Stop being such an idiot.  Be advised that you've been dumped as 
well.  

I will *not*,however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
been dumped.






 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:10 AM
Subject: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
  credibility as someone who was actually there has
  been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
  has been in touch via email with many other people
  from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
  might have known in the past, revealing how to get
  in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
  trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
  As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
 
 Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are 
 purposefully skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have 
 never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. 
 Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a 
 family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to 
 contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out 
 and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?

I am merely passing along what I have been told. If it
is incorrect, my bad. But it certainly seems believable
to me, given how much you still seem to obsess on Robin
and those of your fellow cultists who still seem to be 
unwilling to admit, even as a possibility, We were young, 
naive, and stupid, and we got taken in by a charismatic 
charlatan.

I would say that *your* credibility is more established
by you still thinking of your fellow cultists as us
and as family -- 25 years later - and still obsessing 
on the cult and its founder by stalking him than by 
anything else.

I'm still aghast that *anyone* would have been taken
in by him and his act in the first place. But to still
be hanging around acting like a groupie, trying to get 
him to notice you? NOT something that makes me want to 
interact with you. 

Have you *looked up* Squeaky Fromme? Do you know who
you are being compared to? 

[ That last is a rhetorical question. I'm replying to
this just in case I was given misinformation about your
role in setting fellow stalkers on Vaj's ass. I doubt
that this is the case, but just in case. I will *not*,
however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
been dumped. Try to handle it better than Judy has. ]


 

Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread doctordumbass
The Good Doctor advises the following for you, Barry. May ease the stomach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5IW9wK_HNg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
   credibility as someone who was actually there has
   been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
   has been in touch via email with many other people
   from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
   might have known in the past, revealing how to get
   in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
   trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
   As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
  
  Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are 
  purposefully skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have 
  never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. 
  Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a 
  family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to 
  contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out 
  and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?
 
 I am merely passing along what I have been told. If it
 is incorrect, my bad. But it certainly seems believable
 to me, given how much you still seem to obsess on Robin
 and those of your fellow cultists who still seem to be 
 unwilling to admit, even as a possibility, We were young, 
 naive, and stupid, and we got taken in by a charismatic 
 charlatan.
 
 I would say that *your* credibility is more established
 by you still thinking of your fellow cultists as us
 and as family -- 25 years later - and still obsessing 
 on the cult and its founder by stalking him than by 
 anything else.
 
 I'm still aghast that *anyone* would have been taken
 in by him and his act in the first place. But to still
 be hanging around acting like a groupie, trying to get 
 him to notice you? NOT something that makes me want to 
 interact with you. 
 
 Have you *looked up* Squeaky Fromme? Do you know who
 you are being compared to? 
 
 [ That last is a rhetorical question. I'm replying to
 this just in case I was given misinformation about your
 role in setting fellow stalkers on Vaj's ass. I doubt
 that this is the case, but just in case. I will *not*,
 however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
 as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
 compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
 been dumped. Try to handle it better than Judy has. ]





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
I missed this one until Emily quoted it. This man has lost
any marbles he may have had. Vaj lied to Barry, Barry
stupidly repeated the lie on FFL, Ann told him it was a lie,
and Barry *goes off on Ann*.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
   credibility as someone who was actually there has
   been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
   has been in touch via email with many other people
   from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
   might have known in the past, revealing how to get
   in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
   trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
   As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
  
  Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are 
  purposefully skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have 
  never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. 
  Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a 
  family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to 
  contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out 
  and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?
 
 I am merely passing along what I have been told. If it
 is incorrect, my bad. But it certainly seems believable
 to me, given how much you still seem to obsess on Robin
 and those of your fellow cultists

Where exactly does Barry find Ann obsessing on her
fellow cultists? The only other of Robin's former
followers to post here was Lord Knows, and Ann didn't
obsess on him any more than she does on Robin.

 who still seem to be 
 unwilling to admit, even as a possibility, We were young, 
 naive, and stupid, and we got taken in by a charismatic 
 charlatan.

Obviously this is exactly what Lord Knows thought, and he
made no bones about it. So that eliminates him as one of
Ann's fellow cultists whom Barry insists she obsesses on.

Oh, forgot about Vaj, who *claims* to be one of Robin's
former followers, although neither Robin nor Ann remember
him. But he *also* thinks Robin was a charismatic
charlatan, so he can't be counted as one of Ann's fellow
cultists either.

Remember Barry is the person who got taken in by a
charismatic charlatan (who later committed suicide),
and he still quotes him and cites his ideas approvingly,
as well as maintaining it was an experience he doesn't
regret.

At least Ann had the cojones to *take action* against
Robin when he went off the rails. Barry couldn't be
bothered to do anything to stop Freddy Lenz.

 I would say that *your* credibility is more established
 by you still thinking of your fellow cultists as us
 and as family -- 25 years later

What the hell is Barry talking about? Ann didn't refer
to any of her fellow cultists as us or family.
By family above, she meant *Vaj's* family. And she
didn't use the word us at all. Even if she had, what
exactly would be wrong with her using the term us to
refer to members of a group she spent several years
with? What would that have to do with her credibility?

This is all utterly absurd, but Barry is completely
oblivious to what total nonsense he's writing.

 - and still obsessing 
 on the cult and its founder by stalking him than by 
 anything else.

Ann is stalking Robin? What could this *possibly*
mean in Barry's sick mind?

 I'm still aghast that *anyone* would have been taken
 in by him and his act in the first place.

Says Barry, *who wasn't there*, who has *no* idea of
what the experience of being around Robin was like.

 But to still
 be hanging around acting like a groupie, trying to get 
 him to notice you?

Just insane. There's no other word for it. Something is
very, very, VERY wrong with Barry.

 NOT something that makes me want to 
 interact with you.

News flash: Ann doesn't have the slightest desire to
interact with Barry. She thinks he's an obnoxious jerk,
like so many of the rest of us do. Yet he's fantasizing
she's yearning to interact with him.

 Have you *looked up* Squeaky Fromme? Do you know who
 you are being compared to?

This is not a comparison you want to remind anyone
you've made, Barry.

 [ That last is a rhetorical question. I'm replying to
 this just in case I was given misinformation about your
 role in setting fellow stalkers on Vaj's ass. I doubt
 that this is the case,

Now Barry's accusing *Ann* of lying.

 but just in case. I will *not*,
 however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
 as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
 compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
 been dumped. Try to handle it better than Judy has. ]

Barry's solipsistic fantasies now have total control
over him.

I've thought Barry was on the verge of a breakdown on
several occasions before. He's closer to it now than he's
ever been.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Clint Eastwood Gives an Eerie Speech in the RNC

2012-08-31 Thread obbajeeba
As if the organizer's were anything special?  Bhahahaha! 
If I was Clint, I would had talked to the wall and that would have made better 
coverage!  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 He was clearly unprepared to deliver a speech to a major political convention 
 like this one.  Why did the organizers let him do it?
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/eastwooding-makes-rounds-173242531.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread obbajeeba
 The full Moon ordered the Sun to take notice on this most auspicious day. He 
cannot rule without her,as he has been.  He has to invite her into his home 
within a fortnight or the dragon's head or Rahu will make efforts to put the 
Sun at his mercy. Venus transiting the house of Karka will gain the aspect of 
Rahu and she will have her order filled. Mars is under Venus's mercy. Tame, the 
Mangal lord in the house of Tula, all affecting the Moon's illuminating drive 
from the Sun, the Moon will take to Meena and make the love so. He must 
subscribe. It is written.
-Nostraobbadomus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 from jyotishi Sam Geppi's newsletter, about full Moon in Aquarius which 
 occurs approx 9 am Central Aug 31
 
 Note that Sun is in its own sign, Leo which gives it added power.  But also 
 potential imbalances.
 
 Sam SadaShiva says:
 
 Connecting our personal power to the highest good, without regard for our own 
 personal glory †aversions, victories, defeats, is the highest 
 Leo lesson. The full Moon in Aquarius brings the compassion for humanity and 
 the feeling of appreciation for others and their glory as 
 embodiments of G-d. This realization must be present if the Leo in each 
 of us is to fulfill its mission as the “Good King” †one whose kingdom 
 flourishes †rather than the tyrant who can only feel powerful when 
 robbing the peasants and invading other kingdoms.
 
 Shatabishak Nakshatra
 This full Moon happens in the Nakshatra of Shatabishak, which literally means 
 “100 physicians”.
 This Nakshatra is where the poison of our fears and hypnotic 
 attachments to life are transformed into the elixir of sacred medicine. 
 This medicine takes the form of sacred teachings and healings that 
 descend from the heavens.
 The deity of this Nakshatra is Varuna, who brings the celestial rains from 
 heaven and charges the atmosphere with static electricity, that 
 leads to the lightning strike of awareness in the next Nakshatra of Purva 
 Bhadra.





Re: [FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle: All Cannings, Wiltshire. Reported 30th August.

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
It's Frosty the Snow Man 



 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle: All Cannings, Wiltshire. Reported 
30th August.
 

  
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Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 Let's try to straighten out the mess that Xeno and
 Barry have made of the past history here. Xeno at
 least has gone to the trouble of reading some of the
 posts in question, although he's still in some
 confusion; Barry doesn't care whether he gets things
 right as long as the details he presents conform to
 the story *he* wants to tell, so he never bothers to
 check his facts, he just makes it up as he goes along.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@ wrote:
  
Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
  
  Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
  thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
  physically strike his students, although he 
  still claimed it was a gentle push.
 
 Ann did not dispute Vaj's claim that Robin had struck
 his students in her first post. All she said--addressing
 the group, not Robin specifically, until a brief comment
 at the end--was that she had found her experience with
 Robin's group very valuable.
 
 What Robin acknowledged about a week later was that in
 the early days of his group, well before he ever started
 giving seminars, he had on rare occasions, at informal
 gatherings in their private residence, struck a few of
 his followers in the course of confrontations. He
 described these incidents as similar to what a Zen master
 would do. Nobody was physically harmed. That was in this
 post:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421
 
 Robin never said anything about a gentle push. Barry
 made that up.
 
 Robin made this post because of how seriously Vaj and
 Barry had been distorting Robin's past history (which
 they continue to do).
 
  He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
  been present at any of his talks, and thus was
  (wait for it...you've never heard this before)
  a LIAR.
 
 No, Robin didn't switch to claiming this. He'd 
 disputed that Vaj had ever been around Robin's group
 from the beginning.
 
  Which has again subsequently been disproved,
 
 No, it has not been disproved. A counterclaim has
 been made--by a person who, like Vaj, bears Robin
 great ill will--but no proof has been offered.
 
 And remember that Ann, who was in the thick of things
 when Vaj claimed to have been there, doesn't remember
 him either.
 
  by
  someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
  but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
  thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
  of the blow.
 
 Robin hasn't addressed this claim. Ann described the
 incident in question in post #302425. As far as she
 knew--and she was one of two camera operators videotaping
 all the seminars--this was the only such incident.
 
 Ann made this post only a few minutes after Robin had
 made the post described above, not yet having read
 Robin's post. (She had not been at the early gatherings
 Robin described in any case; she didn't join the group
 until Robin was holding forth at MIU.)
 
 Robin made his last post to FFL the next day, having
 encountered some incredibly offensive and vicious
 fallout--from Curtis in particular--from his attempt to
 give an honest account of how he'd conducted himself
 30-some years ago, sparing himself no blame.
 
   I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
   of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
   read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
   apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
   Robin's instigation,
 
 A number of people who did not wish Robin well were
 indulging in that speculation.
 
   which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
   seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
   posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
   imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
   say she had no agenda. 
 
 No, there's no but here, no seemed, and no however.
 
 Ann said explicitly that she had come to FFL as a result
 of seeing Robin's posts; and she did so on her own hook,
 having had no communication with Robin for over 25 years.
 This is all as clear as crystal from what Ann has told us.
 
 Now, Xeno, if you want to accuse Ann of lying, have the
 guts to do it straight out, to her face. Stop with the
 little hints and insinuations and attempts to muddy
 what Ann has said.

I had other things on my mind, I had no thought that Ann was lying, it never 
crossed my mind. I still do not think Vaj made a case that he was with Robin at 
any time. I was not thinking of this exchange about Vaj's presence or absence, 
only that there was an obvious connexion between Ann and Robin, and *that* past 
history was a motivation for her to come online here. I think 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
Wow, Obbado, not only is it written, it is written on FFL!  No turning back now 
oh wise one 



 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who enjoy jyotish
 

  
The full Moon ordered the Sun to take notice on this most auspicious day. He 
cannot rule without her,as he has been.  He has to invite her into his home 
within a fortnight or the dragon's head or Rahu will make efforts to put the 
Sun at his mercy. Venus transiting the house of Karka will gain the aspect of 
Rahu and she will have her order filled. Mars is under Venus's mercy. Tame, the 
Mangal lord in the house of Tula, all affecting the Moon's illuminating drive 
from the Sun, the Moon will take to Meena and make the love so. He must 
subscribe. It is written.
-Nostraobbadomus

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 from jyotishi Sam Geppi's newsletter, about full Moon in Aquarius which 
 occurs approx 9 am Central Aug 31
 
 Note that Sun is in its own sign, Leo which gives it added power.  But also 
 potential imbalances.
 
 Sam SadaShiva says:
 
 Connecting our personal power to the highest good, without regard for our own 
 personal glory †aversions, victories, defeats, is the highest 
 Leo lesson. The full Moon in Aquarius brings the compassion for humanity and 
 the feeling of appreciation for others and their glory as 
 embodiments of G-d. This realization must be present if the Leo in each 
 of us is to fulfill its mission as the “Good King� †one whose kingdom 
 flourishes †rather than the tyrant who can only feel powerful when 
 robbing the peasants and invading other kingdoms.
 
 Shatabishak Nakshatra
 This full Moon happens in the Nakshatra of Shatabishak, which literally means 
 “100 physicians�.
 This Nakshatra is where the poison of our fears and hypnotic 
 attachments to life are transformed into the elixir of sacred medicine. 
 This medicine takes the form of sacred teachings and healings that 
 descend from the heavens.
 The deity of this Nakshatra is Varuna, who brings the celestial rains from 
 heaven and charges the atmosphere with static electricity, that 
 leads to the lightning strike of awareness in the next Nakshatra of Purva 
 Bhadra.



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread obbajeeba
It takes a lot out of one to cast this spell. There is no turning back for all 
involved. The rains left an awful charge to carry! It had to expel somewhere 
and what better of a place then on FFL!  
Only as wise as far as the stone can throw! :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Wow, Obbado, not only is it written, it is written on FFL!  No turning back 
 now oh wise one 
 
 
 
  From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who enjoy jyotish
  
 
   
 The full Moon ordered the Sun to take notice on this most auspicious day. He 
 cannot rule without her,as he has been.  He has to invite her into his home 
 within a fortnight or the dragon's head or Rahu will make efforts to put the 
 Sun at his mercy. Venus transiting the house of Karka will gain the aspect of 
 Rahu and she will have her order filled. Mars is under Venus's mercy. Tame, 
 the Mangal lord in the house of Tula, all affecting the Moon's illuminating 
 drive from the Sun, the Moon will take to Meena and make the love so. He must 
 subscribe. It is written.
 -Nostraobbadomus
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  from jyotishi Sam Geppi's newsletter, about full Moon in Aquarius which 
  occurs approx 9 am Central Aug 31
  
  Note that Sun is in its own sign, Leo which gives it added power.  But 
  also potential imbalances.
  
  Sam SadaShiva says:
  
  Connecting our personal power to the highest good, without regard for our 
  own personal glory †aversions, victories, defeats, is the highest 
  Leo lesson. The full Moon in Aquarius brings the compassion for humanity 
  and the feeling of appreciation for others and their glory as 
  embodiments of G-d. This realization must be present if the Leo in each 
  of us is to fulfill its mission as the â€ÅGood King� †one 
  whose kingdom 
  flourishes †rather than the tyrant who can only feel powerful when 
  robbing the peasants and invading other kingdoms.
  
  Shatabishak Nakshatra
  This full Moon happens in the Nakshatra of Shatabishak, which literally 
  means â€Å100 physicians�.
  This Nakshatra is where the poison of our fears and hypnotic 
  attachments to life are transformed into the elixir of sacred medicine. 
  This medicine takes the form of sacred teachings and healings that 
  descend from the heavens.
  The deity of this Nakshatra is Varuna, who brings the celestial rains from 
  heaven and charges the atmosphere with static electricity, that 
  leads to the lightning strike of awareness in the next Nakshatra of Purva 
  Bhadra.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Clint Eastwood Gives an Eerie Speech in the RNC

2012-08-31 Thread obbajeeba
were, I meant. Judy, please don't punch me!  lol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 As if the organizer's were anything special?  Bhahahaha! 
 If I was Clint, I would had talked to the wall and that would have made 
 better coverage!  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  He was clearly unprepared to deliver a speech to a major political 
  convention like this one.  Why did the organizers let him do it?
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/eastwooding-makes-rounds-173242531.html
 





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
 you need to get out of this witch hunt habit of calling
 everyone who makes factual errors a liar, or even with
 those who disagree with you also.

That is not and never has been my habit. That's another
of Barry's ridiculous memes you've latched onto.




[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

  The full Moon ordered the Sun to take notice on this most auspicious day. He 
 cannot rule without her,as he has been.  He has to invite her into his home 
 within a fortnight or the dragon's head or Rahu will make efforts to put the 
 Sun at his mercy. Venus transiting the house of Karka will gain the aspect of 
 Rahu and she will have her order filled. Mars is under Venus's mercy. Tame, 
 the Mangal lord in the house of Tula, all affecting the Moon's illuminating 
 drive from the Sun, the Moon will take to Meena and make the love so. He must 
 subscribe. It is written.
 -Nostraobbadomus

LOL.




[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2012-08-31 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter
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Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 25 00:00:00 2012
End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 01 00:00:00 2012
707 messages as of (UTC) Fri Aug 31 23:59:45 2012

61 danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
49 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
49 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
45 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
36 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
34 Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
33 authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
32 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
31 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
30 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
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28 doctordumb...@rocketmail.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
28 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
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[FairfieldLife] Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

2012-08-31 Thread Buck
Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports 
who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal 
of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and 
Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the 
Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them.



[FairfieldLife] more for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long



- Forwarded Message -
From: David Goldstein, Ph.D. da...@dgoldsteinphd.com
To: sharelon...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:14 PM
Subject: Vedic Astrology Monthly Outlook
 

Vedic Astrology Monthly Outlook  

  Feeling frustrated  overwhelmed simultaneously?  Can't tell if you are 
coming or going lately? Read more to understand how the current planetary 
transits reflect such experiences and when this will change Is this email 
not displaying correctly?
View it in your browser.   
  
Vedic Astrological Outlook for September 2012
www.Dgoldsteinphd.com  
 
      The major theme this month continues to be the emphasis on the 
Mars/Saturn conjunction.  As described in last months’ newsletter, Mars and 
Saturn came to an exact conjunction on August 14th.   However, both planets 
continue transiting through Libra during the entire month of September, until 
9/28, when Mars moves into Scorpio, its own very strong sign.  Until that time, 
we continue to experience this “push/pull” dynamic, with one-step forward, two 
steps back, three steps forward, one step back in various areas of our lives.  
If you have been feeling overwhelmed, impatient, thwarted, blocked, frustrated 
or simply confused or frozen in time, for the past two months, it’s likely that 
you are being influenced directly by this intense Mars/Saturn transit.  As Mars 
and Saturn separate over September, the impact of the intense conjunction will 
gradually soften, and the energies will level out.   
 
Understanding the Impact of Planetary Conjunctions:
 
     When two planets conjunct tightly (within one degree of each other), they 
become entwined, as if they are now one being or entity.  Think of two people 
living in the same house together and being forced to share that space for a 
given period of time, for better or worse.  When two planets have no separation 
by degree, it’s as if they are sharing the same bed and remain that close.  If 
the two planets involved share a lot in common, respect each other, are 
friendly to each other and mutually enjoy each other’s company, then it’s 
wonderful.  While a planetary conjunction is very intense because the energy is 
so concentrated, the vibratory frequency can either move in a smooth, 
harmonious direction at one extreme, or in a ragged, harsh tumultuous direction 
at the other end of a continuous spectrum. 
 
     So, in the case of this current Mars/Saturn conjunction, we are observing 
an extreme of two bitter enemies forced to live in close quarters.  They have 
little in common, except that they are both malefic energies.  They don’t like 
each other’s style; philosophy, life outlook/approach and they have completely 
opposite methods of functioning.   Imagine a Mars person and a Saturn person 
sharing the same bed.  Mars is hot, impatient, adventurous, restless, wanting 
to move fast, with strong desires and high energy.  Saturn is cold, withdrawn, 
slow, focused, serious, critical and judgmental.  
 
     Mars is absolutely frustrated being held back by Saturn during this 
conjunction, while Saturn is irritated and annoyed by Mars’ frenetic energy 
pattern.  Hence, this is the “push” “pull” experience many of us are rolling 
through these days.  You don’t know if you are coming or going!  Everything 
goes too fast and yet results are not fast enough!!   This is exactly the 
dynamic posed by this Mars/Saturn conjunction.  
 
     During August, Mars and Saturn were in bed together, as the conjunction 
was that close by exact degree in Libra.  Now, as September progresses, Mars 
and Saturn are separating.  They are not in the same bed, but in early 
September they are still sharing the bathroom and the rest of the house.  As 
the weeks progress, Mars and Saturn move to separate rooms and get farther away 
from each other. Mars jumps ahead and makes plans to “move out!”   Ah, there 
will be much better breathing room between these two planets, once we get into 
October. 
 
     In fact, Mars moves into its own strong sign of Scorpio on 9/28, gains 
some strength as October arrives and gets intensified in power, by an exact 
conjunction with Rahu on 10/2.  Moreover, Jupiter will aspect this Mars/Rahu 
combination, creating an extremely powerful Mars with more energy, intensity 
and power than can even be described by human language!  Mars will be amplified 
in October and life will start moving very rapidly.  More on this transit in 
the October newsletter!  
 
     For now, it’s important to simply understand how the power of two planets 
in conjunction may be experienced energetically.  If you previously understood 
this concept in purely academic terms, now you have the opportunity to taste, 
breathe and digest the real thing---here it is to observe, Mars and Saturn in 
conjunction!  You can now understand how the Mars/Saturn aspects are often one 
signature for high blood pressure in a natal chart.  It is this intense 
pressure combination that must be released.  

Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  Let's try to straighten out the mess that Xeno and
  Barry have made of the past history here. Xeno at
  least has gone to the trouble of reading some of the
  posts in question, although he's still in some
  confusion; Barry doesn't care whether he gets things
  right as long as the details he presents conform to
  the story *he* wants to tell, so he never bothers to
  check his facts, he just makes it up as he goes along.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
   anartaxius@ wrote:
   
 Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
 She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
 responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
 Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
   
   Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
   thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
   physically strike his students, although he 
   still claimed it was a gentle push.
  
  Ann did not dispute Vaj's claim that Robin had struck
  his students in her first post. All she said--addressing
  the group, not Robin specifically, until a brief comment
  at the end--was that she had found her experience with
  Robin's group very valuable.
  
  What Robin acknowledged about a week later was that in
  the early days of his group, well before he ever started
  giving seminars, he had on rare occasions, at informal
  gatherings in their private residence, struck a few of
  his followers in the course of confrontations. He
  described these incidents as similar to what a Zen master
  would do. Nobody was physically harmed. That was in this
  post:
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421
  
  Robin never said anything about a gentle push. Barry
  made that up.
  
  Robin made this post because of how seriously Vaj and
  Barry had been distorting Robin's past history (which
  they continue to do).
  
   He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
   been present at any of his talks, and thus was
   (wait for it...you've never heard this before)
   a LIAR.
  
  No, Robin didn't switch to claiming this. He'd 
  disputed that Vaj had ever been around Robin's group
  from the beginning.
  
   Which has again subsequently been disproved,
  
  No, it has not been disproved. A counterclaim has
  been made--by a person who, like Vaj, bears Robin
  great ill will--but no proof has been offered.
  
  And remember that Ann, who was in the thick of things
  when Vaj claimed to have been there, doesn't remember
  him either.
  
   by
   someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
   but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
   thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
   of the blow.
  
  Robin hasn't addressed this claim. Ann described the
  incident in question in post #302425. As far as she
  knew--and she was one of two camera operators videotaping
  all the seminars--this was the only such incident.
  
  Ann made this post only a few minutes after Robin had
  made the post described above, not yet having read
  Robin's post. (She had not been at the early gatherings
  Robin described in any case; she didn't join the group
  until Robin was holding forth at MIU.)
  
  Robin made his last post to FFL the next day, having
  encountered some incredibly offensive and vicious
  fallout--from Curtis in particular--from his attempt to
  give an honest account of how he'd conducted himself
  30-some years ago, sparing himself no blame.
  
I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
Robin's instigation,
  
  A number of people who did not wish Robin well were
  indulging in that speculation.
  
which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
say she had no agenda. 
  
  No, there's no but here, no seemed, and no however.
  
  Ann said explicitly that she had come to FFL as a result
  of seeing Robin's posts; and she did so on her own hook,
  having had no communication with Robin for over 25 years.
  This is all as clear as crystal from what Ann has told us.
  
  Now, Xeno, if you want to accuse Ann of lying, have the
  guts to do it straight out, to her face. Stop with the
  little hints and insinuations and attempts to muddy
  what Ann has said.
 
 I had other things on my mind, I had no thought that Ann was lying, it never 
 crossed my mind. I still do not think Vaj made a case that he was with Robin 
 at any time. I 

Re: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long





 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:48 PM
Subject: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  Let's try to straighten out the mess that Xeno and
  Barry have made of the past history here. Xeno at
  least has gone to the trouble of reading some of the
  posts in question, although he's still in some
  confusion; Barry doesn't care whether he gets things
  right as long as the details he presents conform to
  the story *he* wants to tell, so he never bothers to
  check his facts, he just makes it up as he goes along.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
   anartaxius@ wrote:
   
 Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
 She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
 responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
 Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
   
   Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
   thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
   physically strike his students, although he 
   still claimed it was a gentle push.
  
  Ann did not dispute Vaj's claim that Robin had struck
  his students in her first post. All she said--addressing
  the group, not Robin specifically, until a brief comment
  at the end--was that she had found her experience with
  Robin's group very valuable.
  
  What Robin acknowledged about a week later was that in
  the early days of his group, well before he ever started
  giving seminars, he had on rare occasions, at informal
  gatherings in their private residence, struck a few of
  his followers in the course of confrontations. He
  described these incidents as similar to what a Zen master
  would do. Nobody was physically harmed. That was in this
  post:
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421
  
  Robin never said anything about a gentle push. Barry
  made that up.
  
  Robin made this post because of how seriously Vaj and
  Barry had been distorting Robin's past history (which
  they continue to do).
  
   He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
   been present at any of his talks, and thus was
   (wait for it...you've never heard this before)
   a LIAR.
  
  No, Robin didn't switch to claiming this. He'd 
  disputed that Vaj had ever been around Robin's group
  from the beginning.
  
   Which has again subsequently been disproved,
  
  No, it has not been disproved. A counterclaim has
  been made--by a person who, like Vaj, bears Robin
  great ill will--but no proof has been offered.
  
  And remember that Ann, who was in the thick of things
  when Vaj claimed to have been there, doesn't remember
  him either.
  
   by
   someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
   but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
   thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
   of the blow.
  
  Robin hasn't addressed this claim. Ann described the
  incident in question in post #302425. As far as she
  knew--and she was one of two camera operators videotaping
  all the seminars--this was the only such incident.
  
  Ann made this post only a few minutes after Robin had
  made the post described above, not yet having read
  Robin's post. (She had not been at the early gatherings
  Robin described in any case; she didn't join the group
  until Robin was holding forth at MIU.)
  
  Robin made his last post to FFL the next day, having
  encountered some incredibly offensive and vicious
  fallout--from Curtis in particular--from his attempt to
  give an honest account of how he'd conducted himself
  30-some years ago, sparing himself no blame.
  
I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
Robin's instigation,
  
  A number of people who did not wish Robin well were
  indulging in that speculation.
  
which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
say she had no agenda. 
  
  No, there's no but here, no seemed, and no however.
  
  Ann said explicitly that she had come to FFL as a result
  of seeing Robin's posts; and she did so on her own hook,
  having had no communication with Robin for over 25 years.
  This is all as clear as crystal from what Ann has told us.
  
  Now, Xeno, if you want to accuse Ann of lying, have the
  guts to do it straight out, to her face. Stop with the
  little hints and insinuations and attempts 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread Share Long
Wonderful poem, Xeno, thank you for posting.




 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 snip
  In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology of
  religion
 
 No, I did not, Xeno. Barry's the one who prattles about
 the sociology of religion.

You are right. My memory is playing tricks on me. Maybe I should take some time 
off. And this was a recent post you made that had the phrase in it that I 
remembered incorrectly, you were referring to your nemesis. 
 
 Might I suggest you learn how to use the Advanced Search
 feature here and check the archives before you make
 statements about past traffic on this forum?

Yes you may. That is what I did post hoc here, to my dismay.

There are days when 
one should be able 
to pluck off one's head 
like a dented or worn 
helmet, straight from 
the nape and collarbone 
(those crackling branches!)

and place it firmly down 
in the bed of a flowing stream. 
Clear, clean, chill currents 
coursing and spuming through 
the sour and stale compartments 
of the brain, dimmed eardrums, 
bleared eyesockets, filmed tongue.

And then set it back again 
on the base of the shoulders:
well tamped down, of course, 
the laved skin and mouth, 
the marble of the eyes 
rinsed and ready
for love; for prophecy?

--John Montague


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is it they're writing to?

2012-08-31 Thread doctordumbass
Doc sez: Emily, its like before I had kids, I'd hear a baby crying, and it was 
alarming, then after I had kids, I'd hear a baby crying, and I could tell 
exactly what the baby was saying. Sometimes, better to just let the baby cry. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Yeah, the whole comparison to Squeaky Fromme is an incredibly hostile and 
 demeaning and horrible thing to say, really.  So is everything else he said 
 targeted at Ann.  Simply despicable and misogynistic.  Yuk.  Barry, you 
 owe Ann and apology.  I wouldn't trust that man to have my back for any 
 reason, ever.  
 
 
 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:09 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is it they're writing to?
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  You gained the same impression that
  many others did, that so far Ann's presence here pretty
  much revolves around her perception that FFL delivers up
  Robin to her as a captive audience.
 
 Just out of curiosity, how many here have gained this
 impression about Ann? Barry says many others, so one
 has to assume there are at least three of you besides
 Barry.
 
 And if I may, what suggested to you that Ann perceives
 FFL to deliver up Robin to her as a captive audience?
 If this were the case, why would she have stuck around
 for three months *after Robin had left*?
 
  He's never responded to anything she writes, nor even
  acknowledged her existence. Yet she's still on the Robin
  was and still is brilliant bandwagon. Call me crazy, but
  I think the best commentary on this so far was someone's
  comparison of her to Squeaky Fromme. 'Nuff said.
 
 'Nuff said indeed. This is possibly the most fucked-up
 remark ever from Barry. The person who made this
 comparison was Bhairitu, but he was *joking* (if it's
 possible to joke about Fromme).
 
 snip
  Often (and the subject of this rap), such derailments seem
  to not even be aimed at the person they are presumably 
  written to. In many cases, the derailer is writing to
  someone who has made it crystal clear that he or she wants
  nothing to do with the derailer, and in many cases doesn't
  even bother to read what they write. They have been, in
  as real a sense as in the romantic one, been dumped.
 
 Another fantastic mental invention of Barry's. I think
 we have to conclude that the constant criticism directed
 at him has finally unhinged his mind.
 
 What follows is raving, pure and simple. It's completely
 detached from reality.
 
  
  And, just as one finds in bars full of sad men and women
  desperate for someone -- anyone -- who will sit there and
  listen to them drone on endlessly about the person who
  dumped them and what horrible, nasty, inexcusably 
  inexcusable people the act of dumpage makes them. In bars, 
  you could deal with such people the same way people do in
  real life -- get up and move to the other side of the bar
  and leave them ranting to themselves. 
  
  Here, you can't. They can continue to rant, often pretending
  that they are *still writing directly to the person who has
  made it clear they aren't reading a word of it*. (Or, as in
  my case, only the first 10 words or so shown in Message View.)
  
  Few call them on this. WHY? Because IMO *they're* the ones
  reading it, and in fact *they're* the ones being written to.
  It's all part of a phenomenon we discussed briefly earlier,
  trying to form what you call associations with other 
  people, what I call cliques. 
  
  On one level, I think that people on Internet forums who 
  continue to rant angrily at people who have dumped them 
  (or defend and praise them just as embarrassingly) are in 
  the same ballpark as stalkers who stand outside the apart-
  ments of men or women who have dumped them romantically and 
  scream at their closed, double-paned-for-soundproofing-purposes 
  windows. The ranting is *not* for the purpose of communication; 
  it's a way of either venting their own line-on-stone anger 
  at the person who has dumped them or a way of (in their 
  minds) trying to get them back. 
  
  Because the dumper is not paying any attention to the some-
  what deranged dumpee, and thus refusing to become a captive
  audience for those they've dumped, the dumpees settle for 
  the next best thing. That is, the same thing that the 
  drunks in the bars settle for if they can get it. Someone
  -- anyone -- who will listen to them rant endlessly about 
  the horrible dumper and then hopefully either pile on to 
  ragging about them or, at the very least, respond with an 
  occasional Uh huh or Whatever you say, which the raging 
  dumpee interprets as meaning You go, girl or You rock, man. 
  
  Meanwhile I'm over here in another corner of the bar,
  wondering why others are still sitting there listening to
  someone drunk on attachment carrying on 

[FairfieldLife] Re: My evening in Leiden

2012-08-31 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 No shit. 
 
 People are going to believe that I made this up,
 especially some people here. But it's all as 
 literal and as true to fact as I can possibly
 make it.
 
 After watching the season finale of True Blood,
 I wasn't tired, and felt the need to indulge my
 bad habits at Bad Habits. So I walked over to my
 neighborhood pub and sat myself down with my 
 laptop at an outside table, taking advantage of
 the Last Days Of Summer here in the Netherlands.
 
 So what do I spy across the bar, as I'm starting
 to type the message I just Sent, about True
 Blood, but an attractive Dutch woman wearing
 thigh-high leather boots with a short leather
 skirt...uh...checking out the Certified Old Fart.
 
 This does not happen all that often, so I noticed.
 
 She came over and asked to sit down, and I grac-
 iously accepted. We had a charming conversation,
 and then she invited her male companion to join
 us. He was a nice Unix nerd, and we had a good
 conversation about nerd things, while she and I
 had a good conversation about what it was like
 for her to grow up Bi in the Netherlands, among
 men who expected her to be all Submissive. 
 
 I would never have made that mistake. :-)
 
 The conversation progressed to her sitting in
 my lap, moving my hand purposefully to her quite
 admirable ass, and continuing the conversation.
 It was all quite interesting, on all three sides.
 She was fascinating -- working as a party planner
 for a corporate office here in Leiden, him telling
 me about his trip to Lhasa -- and I was grooving
 on it fully. Especially, punctuated as it was,
 by me caressing her admirable buttocks.
 
 Then she invited me to join her and her male 
 companion in a threesome. 
 
 Call me retro, but that's just not my kinda scene,
 so I -- as graciously as I could manage -- demurred.
 
 It's an indicator of the overall mindset of the
 Netherlands that neither of them took this personally,
 or chose to go all Dan on my ass for just not being
 Drawn That Way. 
 
 We parted as friends, and they moved on to the next bar.
 
 I sit here still, writing this. 
 
 Call me crazy, but I call this Win-Win.
 
 :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zomwyZEYZNE

http://tinyurl.com/8qrzf7k





Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread seventhray1

Somehow this feels more appropiate to the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLGC06OvOYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLGC06OvOYI


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@
wrote:
  
   Let's try to straighten out the mess that Xeno and
   Barry have made of the past history here. Xeno at
   least has gone to the trouble of reading some of the
   posts in question, although he's still in some
   confusion; Barry doesn't care whether he gets things
   right as long as the details he presents conform to
   the story *he* wants to tell, so he never bothers to
   check his facts, he just makes it up as he goes along.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:

  Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
  She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was
  responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time
  Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
   
Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
physically strike his students, although he
still claimed it was a gentle push.
  
   Ann did not dispute Vaj's claim that Robin had struck
   his students in her first post. All she said--addressing
   the group, not Robin specifically, until a brief comment
   at the end--was that she had found her experience with
   Robin's group very valuable.
  
   What Robin acknowledged about a week later was that in
   the early days of his group, well before he ever started
   giving seminars, he had on rare occasions, at informal
   gatherings in their private residence, struck a few of
   his followers in the course of confrontations. He
   described these incidents as similar to what a Zen master
   would do. Nobody was physically harmed. That was in this
   post:
  
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421
  
   Robin never said anything about a gentle push. Barry
   made that up.
  
   Robin made this post because of how seriously Vaj and
   Barry had been distorting Robin's past history (which
   they continue to do).
  
He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
been present at any of his talks, and thus was
(wait for it...you've never heard this before)
a LIAR.
  
   No, Robin didn't switch to claiming this. He'd
   disputed that Vaj had ever been around Robin's group
   from the beginning.
  
Which has again subsequently been disproved,
  
   No, it has not been disproved. A counterclaim has
   been made--by a person who, like Vaj, bears Robin
   great ill will--but no proof has been offered.
  
   And remember that Ann, who was in the thick of things
   when Vaj claimed to have been there, doesn't remember
   him either.
  
   by
someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
but that one of the people Robin struck said that he
thought his jaw might have been broken by the force
of the blow.
  
   Robin hasn't addressed this claim. Ann described the
   incident in question in post #302425. As far as she
   knew--and she was one of two camera operators videotaping
   all the seminars--this was the only such incident.
  
   Ann made this post only a few minutes after Robin had
   made the post described above, not yet having read
   Robin's post. (She had not been at the early gatherings
   Robin described in any case; she didn't join the group
   until Robin was holding forth at MIU.)
  
   Robin made his last post to FFL the next day, having
   encountered some incredibly offensive and vicious
   fallout--from Curtis in particular--from his attempt to
   give an honest account of how he'd conducted himself
   30-some years ago, sparing himself no blame.
  
 I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection
 of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have
 read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was
 apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at
 Robin's instigation,
  
   A number of people who did not wish Robin well were
   indulging in that speculation.
  
 which Ann denied, but Ann certainly
 seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now
 posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather
 imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does
 say she had no agenda.
  
   No, there's no but here, no seemed, and no however.
  
   Ann said explicitly that she had come to FFL as a result
   of seeing Robin's posts; and she did so on her own hook,
   having had no communication with Robin for over 25 years.
   This is all as clear as crystal from what Ann has told us.
  
   Now, Xeno, if you want to accuse Ann of lying, have the
   guts to do it 

[FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@
 wrote:
 snip
  Only my eyeballs and the couple of grey cells that I call my brain.
 Really Steve, just take a look and tell me the whole thing is not
 transparently one big unfunny joke. He is playing around here and it
 just would never pass as anything but slotting in someone's name,
 anyone's, in place of whatever name was in there originally. I like you
 Steve but please tell me this is laughably obvious to you.
 
 
 Here's what  I'll tell you Ann.  I read The Fountain Head in high
 school, probably like many others, and like many others I was influenced
 by it.  It reminded me of the speech given by the main charactor in that
 book, I guess Howard Roark.  Or maybe it was John Gault in Atlas
 Shrugged.  I read both of them.  I think there were long speeches in
 both.
 
 But there are so many accusations hurled around here either out of spite
 or a desire to humiliate that I would prefer to not say anything that I
 could not back up.  And if it so obvious that this speech was lifted
 from something else, then what was it lifted from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLdK9zaLaG8

http://tinyurl.com/luz8tf
 
 I believe it was Judy who just a few days ago said that by googling a
 segment of writing, one can pretty quickly determine if it was a
 previous work.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity

2012-08-31 Thread Emily Reyn
Yes, I enjoyed it as well...although it reminded me of a poem someone coming 
off a major drunk would write.  I probably should have read that article on how 
negativity rots the brain before I posted today.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity
 

  
Wonderful poem, Xeno, thank you for posting.




 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quiz: Determining one's existential sincerity
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 snip
  In another post, Judy mentioned studying the sociology of
  religion
 
 No, I did not, Xeno. Barry's the one who prattles about
 the sociology of religion.

You are right. My memory is playing tricks on me. Maybe I should take some time 
off. And this was a recent post you made that had the phrase in it that I 
remembered incorrectly, you were referring to your nemesis. 
 
 Might I suggest you learn how to use the Advanced Search
 feature here and check the archives before you make
 statements about past traffic on this forum?

Yes you may. That is what I did post hoc here, to my dismay.

There are days when 
one should be able 
to pluck off one's head 
like a dented or worn 
helmet, straight from 
the nape and collarbone 
(those crackling branches!)

and place it firmly down 
in the bed of a flowing stream. 
Clear, clean, chill currents 
coursing and spuming through 
the sour and stale compartments 
of the brain, dimmed eardrums, 
bleared eyesockets, filmed tongue.

And then set it back again 
on the base of the shoulders:
well tamped down, of course, 
the laved skin and mouth, 
the marble of the eyes 
rinsed and ready
for love; for prophecy?

--John Montague




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Emily Reyn
Ah ha ha ha...now that's a good skit.  



 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@
 wrote:
 snip
  Only my eyeballs and the couple of grey cells that I call my brain.
 Really Steve, just take a look and tell me the whole thing is not
 transparently one big unfunny joke. He is playing around here and it
 just would never pass as anything but slotting in someone's name,
 anyone's, in place of whatever name was in there originally. I like you
 Steve but please tell me this is laughably obvious to you.
 
 
 Here's what  I'll tell you Ann.  I read The Fountain Head in high
 school, probably like many others, and like many others I was influenced
 by it.  It reminded me of the speech given by the main charactor in that
 book, I guess Howard Roark.  Or maybe it was John Gault in Atlas
 Shrugged.  I read both of them.  I think there were long speeches in
 both.
 
 But there are so many accusations hurled around here either out of spite
 or a desire to humiliate that I would prefer to not say anything that I
 could not back up.  And if it so obvious that this speech was lifted
 from something else, then what was it lifted from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLdK9zaLaG8

http://tinyurl.com/luz8tf

 I believe it was Judy who just a few days ago said that by googling a
 segment of writing, one can pretty quickly determine if it was a
 previous work.



 

Re: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread Emily Reyn
snip If you still have a gripe you can take it up with my lawyers at Sucme  
Dye LLP

Ha ha ha...Xeno, coming from you this is actually pretty amusing.  I envision 
you in white delivering this line.  Now to repeat the always effervescent Mary 
Poppins in case you missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5IW9wK_HNg




 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 4:48 PM
Subject: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 Let's try to straighten out the mess that Xeno and
 Barry have made of the past history here. Xeno at
 least has gone to the trouble of reading some of the
 posts in question, although he's still in some
 confusion; Barry doesn't care whether he gets things
 right as long as the details he presents conform to
 the story *he* wants to tell, so he never bothers to
 check his facts, he just makes it up as he goes along.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@ wrote:
  
Ann's first post was on January 15, 2012 #301897.
She was responding to a post by Robin wherein he was 
responding to Vaj. She said she was present at the time 
Vaj said he was with Robin and disputed Vaj's claim.
  
  Which, it should be pointed out, Robin shortly
  thereafter admitted to be true. He did, in fact,
  physically strike his students, although he 
  still claimed it was a gentle push.
 
 Ann did not dispute Vaj's claim that Robin had struck
 his students in her first post. All she said--addressing
 the group, not Robin specifically, until a brief comment
 at the end--was that she had found her experience with
 Robin's group very valuable.
 
 What Robin acknowledged about a week later was that in
 the early days of his group, well before he ever started
 giving seminars, he had on rare occasions, at informal
 gatherings in their private residence, struck a few of
 his followers in the course of confrontations. He
 described these incidents as similar to what a Zen master
 would do. Nobody was physically harmed. That was in this
 post:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421
 
 Robin never said anything about a gentle push. Barry
 made that up.
 
 Robin made this post because of how seriously Vaj and
 Barry had been distorting Robin's past history (which
 they continue to do).
 
  He then switched to claiming that Vaj had never
  been present at any of his talks, and thus was
  (wait for it...you've never heard this before)
  a LIAR.
 
 No, Robin didn't switch to claiming this. He'd 
 disputed that Vaj had ever been around Robin's group
 from the beginning.
 
  Which has again subsequently been disproved,
 
 No, it has not been disproved. A counterclaim has
 been made--by a person who, like Vaj, bears Robin
 great ill will--but no proof has been offered.
 
 And remember that Ann, who was in the thick of things
 when Vaj claimed to have been there, doesn't remember
 him either.
 
  by
  someone who confirmed that not only was Vaj present,
  but that one of the people Robin struck said that he 
  thought his jaw might have been broken by the force 
  of the blow.
 
 Robin hasn't addressed this claim. Ann described the
 incident in question in post #302425. As far as she
 knew--and she was one of two camera operators videotaping
 all the seminars--this was the only such incident.
 
 Ann made this post only a few minutes after Robin had
 made the post described above, not yet having read
 Robin's post. (She had not been at the early gatherings
 Robin described in any case; she didn't join the group
 until Robin was holding forth at MIU.)
 
 Robin made his last post to FFL the next day, having
 encountered some incredibly offensive and vicious
 fallout--from Curtis in particular--from his attempt to
 give an honest account of how he'd conducted himself
 30-some years ago, sparing himself no blame.
 
   I must have seen this post, but had no exact recollection 
   of it. The post you mentioned, I never had read. I have 
   read it now. Ann was responding to Susan, who was 
   apologising, as Susan thought Ann had come onto FFL at 
   Robin's instigation,
 
 A number of people who did not wish Robin well were
 indulging in that speculation.
 
   which Ann denied, but Ann certainly 
   seemed to come on to FFL as a result of Robin's now 
   posting on FFL. This is what I remembered, rather 
   imperfectly. However in this post you dug up Ann does 
   say she had no agenda. 
 
 No, there's no but here, no seemed, and no however.
 
 Ann said explicitly that she had come to FFL as a result
 of seeing Robin's posts; and she did so on her own hook,
 having had no communication with Robin for over 25 years.
 This is all as clear as crystal from what Ann has told us.
 
 Now, Xeno, if you want to accuse 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

2012-08-31 Thread Emily Reyn
Right, except that it appears that another $850,000 is needed to actually make 
that happen, according to the wonderful news.  Perhaps I am mistaken? 



 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:35 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Super Radiance in Fairfield,  Securing our 30-Year Goal
 

  
Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits with passports 
who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal 
of securing the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield and 
Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated to cover the costs to bring the 
Pandits here and expand the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: more for those who enjoy jyotish

2012-08-31 Thread John

He should have discussed how the transit of Mars and Saturn would affect the 
USA birth chart. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 
 
 
 - Forwarded Message -
 From: David Goldstein, Ph.D. David@...
 To: sharelong60@... 
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:14 PM
 Subject: Vedic Astrology Monthly Outlook
  
 
 Vedic Astrology Monthly Outlook  
 
   Feeling frustrated  overwhelmed simultaneously?  Can't tell if you are 
 coming or going lately? Read more to understand how the current planetary 
 transits reflect such experiences and when this will change Is this email 
 not displaying correctly?
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 Vedic Astrological Outlook for September 2012
 www.Dgoldsteinphd.com  
  
       The major theme this month continues to be the emphasis on the 
 Mars/Saturn conjunction.  As described in last months’ newsletter, Mars 
 and Saturn came to an exact conjunction on August 14th.   However, both 
 planets continue transiting through Libra during the entire month of 
 September, until 9/28, when Mars moves into Scorpio, its own very strong 
 sign.  Until that time, we continue to experience this “push/pull” 
 dynamic, with one-step forward, two steps back, three steps forward, one step 
 back in various areas of our lives.  If you have been feeling overwhelmed, 
 impatient, thwarted, blocked, frustrated or simply confused or frozen in 
 time, for the past two months, it’s likely that you are being influenced 
 directly by this intense Mars/Saturn transit.  As Mars and Saturn separate 
 over September, the impact of the intense conjunction will gradually soften, 
 and the energies will level out.   
  
 Understanding the Impact of Planetary Conjunctions:
  
      When two planets conjunct tightly (within one degree of each other), 
 they become entwined, as if they are now one being or entity.  Think of two 
 people living in the same house together and being forced to share that space 
 for a given period of time, for better or worse.  When two planets have no 
 separation by degree, it’s as if they are sharing the same bed and remain 
 that close.  If the two planets involved share a lot in common, respect each 
 other, are friendly to each other and mutually enjoy each other’s company, 
 then it’s wonderful.  While a planetary conjunction is very intense 
 because the energy is so concentrated, the vibratory frequency can either 
 move in a smooth, harmonious direction at one extreme, or in a ragged, harsh 
 tumultuous direction at the other end of a continuous spectrum. 
  
      So, in the case of this current Mars/Saturn conjunction, we are 
 observing an extreme of two bitter enemies forced to live in close 
 quarters.  They have little in common, except that they are both malefic 
 energies.  They don’t like each other’s style; philosophy, life 
 outlook/approach and they have completely opposite methods of functioning.   
 Imagine a Mars person and a Saturn person sharing the same bed.  Mars is 
 hot, impatient, adventurous, restless, wanting to move fast, with strong 
 desires and high energy.  Saturn is cold, withdrawn, slow, focused, serious, 
 critical and judgmental.  
  
      Mars is absolutely frustrated being held back by Saturn during this 
 conjunction, while Saturn is irritated and annoyed by Mars’ frenetic energy 
 pattern.  Hence, this is the “push” “pull” experience many of us are 
 rolling through these days.  You don’t know if you are coming or going!  
 Everything goes too fast and yet results are not fast enough!!   This is 
 exactly the dynamic posed by this Mars/Saturn conjunction.  
  
      During August, Mars and Saturn were in bed together, as the 
 conjunction was that close by exact degree in Libra.  Now, as September 
 progresses, Mars and Saturn are separating.  They are not in the same bed, 
 but in early September they are still sharing the bathroom and the rest of 
 the house.  As the weeks progress, Mars and Saturn move to separate rooms 
 and get farther away from each other. Mars jumps ahead and makes plans to 
 “move out!”   Ah, there will be much better breathing room between these 
 two planets, once we get into October. 
  
      In fact, Mars moves into its own strong sign of Scorpio on 9/28, 
 gains some strength as October arrives and gets intensified in power, by an 
 exact conjunction with Rahu on 10/2.  Moreover, Jupiter will aspect this 
 Mars/Rahu combination, creating an extremely powerful Mars with more energy, 
 intensity and power than can even be described by human language!  Mars will 
 be amplified in October and life will start moving very rapidly.  More on 
 this transit in the October newsletter!  
  
      For now, it’s important to simply understand how the power of two 
 planets in conjunction may be experienced energetically.  If you previously 
 understood this concept 

Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling

2012-08-31 Thread awoelflebater
Emily you would be my first draft on any team (dodge ball, spelling bee, debate 
club, hide and go seek). You are the real deal, the loyal friend, the true 
heart. I would be privileged to know you would stand beside me, any day, any 
time. And if I might add, you are one formidable mama. Look out, mae-hem's on 
the loose.

I will respond to all of the Vaj and Barry allegations tomorrow. There are 
quite a few things for me to cover and I will enjoy doing so. In the meantime 
that lioness Judy and your loyal self are just jousting like crazy. Just keep 
galloping, it's breathtaking.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Even the first line that shows up on message view?  Like she even cares that 
 you have dumped her? Like she even *expects*  your dumb ass (sorry 
 Doctor) to respond civilly, let alone apologize for being so out of pocket 
 on so many occasions.  Stop being such an idiot.  Be advised that you've 
 been dumped as well.  
 
 I will *not*,however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
 as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
 compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
 been dumped.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:10 AM
 Subject: Fwd: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   It is also worth pointing out that, now that Vaj's
   credibility as someone who was actually there has
   been verified by someone else who was there, Ann
   has been in touch via email with many other people
   from the former hierarchy of Robin's cult whom Vaj 
   might have known in the past, revealing how to get
   in touch with him. They have now been hounding him 
   trying to get him to talk on the telephone with them. 
   As Vaj commented to me, Thanks, Ann...not.
  
  Your friend Vaj has been lying to you or you are 
  purposefully skewing the truth Mr Wright. I have 
  never given anyone Vaj's personal contact information. 
  Anyone who has been in touch with Mr Vaj is either a 
  family member or Lord Knows. All of whom knew how to 
  contact him anyway. So this I can tell you, is an out 
  and out lie by Vaj and by yourself. Now who has the agenda?
 
 I am merely passing along what I have been told. If it
 is incorrect, my bad. But it certainly seems believable
 to me, given how much you still seem to obsess on Robin
 and those of your fellow cultists who still seem to be 
 unwilling to admit, even as a possibility, We were young, 
 naive, and stupid, and we got taken in by a charismatic 
 charlatan.
 
 I would say that *your* credibility is more established
 by you still thinking of your fellow cultists as us
 and as family -- 25 years later - and still obsessing 
 on the cult and its founder by stalking him than by 
 anything else.
 
 I'm still aghast that *anyone* would have been taken
 in by him and his act in the first place. But to still
 be hanging around acting like a groupie, trying to get 
 him to notice you? NOT something that makes me want to 
 interact with you. 
 
 Have you *looked up* Squeaky Fromme? Do you know who
 you are being compared to? 
 
 [ That last is a rhetorical question. I'm replying to
 this just in case I was given misinformation about your
 role in setting fellow stalkers on Vaj's ass. I doubt
 that this is the case, but just in case. I will *not*,
 however, read anything of yours in the future, or feel
 as if I owe you any kind of response, should you feel
 compelled to make one. Are we clear on this? You've
 been dumped. Try to handle it better than Judy has. ]