Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi. As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one. This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a superman, obviously it's more inspiring if your guru has amazing powers like walking on water. That's why they invent these stories, it makes the decision to follow him to be a more important one than just choosing a type of meditation. Divine assurance perhaps. But I don't think Vaj invented it, it was part of Earl Kaplan's letter and he got it from whatever source in India he spoke to. I felt a bit sorry for him because he got duped by one cult and ran straight into the arms of another. I hope he's got some smarts at last and realised there is no authority but yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi. As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one. This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Falling crime rates explained...
This explains so much about the myth of falling crime rates. Just don't
report them, and they're not crimes. Besides, your statistics as a police
department look better.
It's the same thing in the US with the growing concern over rape on college
campuses. All campuses are required to publish their statistics for such
things, to allow parents to decide whether to send their kids to schools with
high rape statistics or low rape statistics. The problem? Many campuses
consistently talked women students out of reporting rapes to artificially keep
their statistics low. As a result when you look at the *real* statistics for
such underreporting schools, if you're female and attending those colleges, you
have a 1 in 4 chance of being raped.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:37 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Falling crime rates explained...
A million crimes reported by public left out of police figures - Telegraph
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Made even more interesting in light of the assertion of Deepak Chopra that
Marshy himself was poisoned some years ago, with Deepak of course cast in the
role of savior, or co-savior perhaps
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here,
Vaj.
Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the
other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a superman, obviously it's
more inspiring if your guru has amazing powers like walking on water. That's
why they invent these stories, it makes the decision to follow him to be a more
important one than just choosing a type of meditation. Divine assurance perhaps.
But I don't think Vaj invented it, it was part of Earl Kaplan's letter and he
got it from whatever source in India he spoke to. I felt a bit sorry for him
because he got duped by one cult and ran straight into the arms of another. I
hope he's got some smarts at last and realised there is no authority but
yourself.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jacksonwrote:
Ithink I asked this once a long time ago, but I amposting this again if so:
Whatwas the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard?
The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on aninternet discussion group.
The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered hismaster SBS, by
poisoning his food in a conspiracy with theJyotirmath Ashram cook.
The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS'sspecial ring and
ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will,the cook would get the
Shankaracharya highchair at the UpperKashi.
As far as rumors go, it is going to bedifficult to top this one.
Thiswould be something that was not part of the official TMcannon, nor any of
the majorly accepted ones (likeMarshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or
yogicflying brings world peace)
I amtalking about the boundless rumors we all heard oncourses and in TM
facilities and from TM old timers.
Minewould I think have to be the idea that having animalsaround when you are
meditating drains your energy. Thatone supposedly came from Marshy himself but
who knows.
Otherthan that it would be Claire Baxter's classic nevermeditate with your hair
wet because the stress yourelease comes out of your crown chakra, and if your
hairis wet the stress slides down your hair and goes intoyour lower spine.
Iinclude that one second, just because I only heard itfrom that one person and
the animal energy drain was oneI heard a lot from lots of different people.
Howbout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
John, in one system of jyotish, practiced by David Hawthorne here in FF, they
say that every aspect will eventually get expressed.
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Share,
Yes, that's a good observation. However, if you take a look at the sublord of
Rahu's placement, Mercury becomes the stronger indicator for the US chart
during the time period.
In Nadi astrology, Mercury is strongly placed in the 7th house which is in the
sign of Gemini. Since Mercury is also the lord of the 10th house, there is a
good indication that the period of Rahu will be a prosperous one for the US
people and the economy.
Using the Parasara system of jyotish, however, the Rahu period is not very
bright since it is placed in the 8th house of transformation.
We'll just have to wait and see how the karma manifests for the country as a
whole at that time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, I think by then the US will be running the major period of Rahu so it
might be good to have a president who's also running Rahu, even if subperiod.
Two negatives canceling each other out and all that...
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the
presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the
subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could
win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national
election through a complicated turn of events.
Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during the
midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be from
the GOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
s3raph, 10,000 messages from the Funny Farm Lounge?! Now that definitely is a thought stopper! But still made me chuckle at the second reading. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Re Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? : In the Wiki link about the possibly alien signal it says:In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory beamed a response from humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter messages, in the direction from which the signal originated: Ye gods! After intelligent aliens wade their way through the messages from 10,000 twits they will definitely conclude that Earth is inhabited by small-minded, grudge-bearing oiks with the attention span of a gnat, and that our planet isn't worth visiting. Instead they should have sent 10,000 FairfieldLife messages to show them how enlightened we are ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. You're right. I'd bet there would be an increase in mental illness if we did contact aliens. As any advanced civilization capable of monitoring us would be aware of our fragile psyches I think it is likely that that is why they haven't introduced themselves. They're waiting for us to fully mature. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That idea gets seriously proposed a lot. I always think it's a bit of a hopeful way of keeping up interest in what has turned out to be a bad explanation for crop stomping and spy planes. But we can live in hope... Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? On the day Elvis died (no connection I should think) a signal was picked up that exactly matched what we expected an alien civilisation would send, right frequency and modulated. But it was never repeated and so can't be claimed as scientific evidence of anything. It remains an enigma and always will, unless we hear it again... Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | | Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Wow! signal was a strong narrowband radio signal detected by Jerry R. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while he was working on a SETI project at the Big Ear radio t... | | | View on en.wikipedia.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? : In the Wiki link about the possibly alien signal it says:In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory beamed a response from humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter messages, in the direction from which the signal originated: Ye gods! After intelligent aliens wade their way through the messages from 10,000 twits they will definitely conclude that Earth is inhabited by small-minded, grudge-bearing oiks with the attention span of a gnat, and that our planet isn't worth visiting. Instead they should have sent 10,000 FairfieldLife messages to show them how enlightened we are ;-) Hmm, yes. First one to troll our new alien overlords does a double shift in the dilithium crystal mines. I always wondered if we should be a bit more careful with what we broadcast into space. Look at the average days TV, that's a bubble of drivel spreading away from us at the speed of light. What's an intelligent being going to make of it all? If they're a really Spock-like race they might take it all seriously, maybe that's they leave us alone... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. You're right. I'd bet there would be an increase in mental illness if we did contact aliens. As any advanced civilization capable of monitoring us would be aware of our fragile psyches I think it is likely that that is why they haven't introduced themselves. They're waiting for us to fully mature. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That idea gets seriously proposed a lot. I always think it's a bit of a hopeful way of keeping up interest in what has turned out to be a bad explanation for crop stomping and spy planes. But we can live in hope... Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? On the day Elvis died (no connection I should think) a signal was picked up that exactly matched what we expected an alien civilisation would send, right frequency and modulated. But it was never repeated and so can't be claimed as scientific evidence of anything. It remains an enigma and always will, unless we hear it again... Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | | Wow! signal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Wow! signal was a strong narrowband radio signal detected by Jerry R. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while he was working on a SETI project at the Big Ear radio t... | | | View on en.wikipedia.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed
by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them
certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of
seeker.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Made even more interesting in light of the assertion of Deepak Chopra that Marshy himself was poisoned some years ago, with Deepak of course cast in the role of savior, or co-savior perhaps I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a superman, obviously it's more inspiring if your guru has amazing powers like walking on water. That's why they invent these stories, it makes the decision to follow him to be a more important one than just choosing a type of meditation. Divine assurance perhaps. But I don't think Vaj invented it, it was part of Earl Kaplan's letter and he got it from whatever source in India he spoke to. I felt a bit sorry for him because he got duped by one cult and ran straight into the arms of another. I hope he's got some smarts at last and realised there is no authority but yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi. As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one. This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What
bs.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group
headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them
certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of
seeker.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? : In the Wiki link about the possibly alien signal it says: In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory beamed a response from humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter messages, in the direction from which the signal originated: Ye gods! After intelligent aliens wade their way through the messages from 10,000 twits they will definitely conclude that Earth is inhabited by small-minded, grudge-bearing oiks with the attention span of a gnat, and that our planet isn't worth visiting. Instead they should have sent 10,000 FairfieldLife messages to show them how enlightened we are ;-) Hmm, yes. First one to troll our new alien overlords does a double shift in the dilithium crystal mines. I always wondered if we should be a bit more careful with what we broadcast into space. Look at the average days TV, that's a bubble of drivel spreading away from us at the speed of light. What's an intelligent being going to make of it all? If they're a really Spock-like race they might take it all seriously, maybe that's they leave us alone...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for
the various levels. How is that different?
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment???
What bs.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group
headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them
certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of
seeker.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Now you know that's not true - Marshy said Andy Rhymer and Robin Carlsen were
enlightened! There, proof positive that enlightenment does not carry decent
behavior with it, or more likely proof positive that Marshy was a liar and
huckster who would occasionally get caught in his own web of lies. What do you
do when some guy stands up in a group and talks experiences that are exactly
what the guru said constitutes enlightenment? You say Oh, yeah, you are
enlightened! See proof that my meditation works! then you bank on the fact
that these guys will fade away and people will forget about it. You don't
entertain the idea they may be child molesters of whacked out cult leaders to
be.
As to Share's assertion that certain groups claim many enlightened members,
if one takes Marshy's definition especially of enlightenment, there should be
obvious signs of many enlightened people from the absolute support of nature
these people would be getting, plus the waves of amazing vibes they should be
giving off - in short, it is a big fat fantasy on the part of the certificate
holders and a blatant and rather crude action on the part of the gurus to
maintain the gravy train.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a feeling that it would emerge that you would in some way appoint yourself as being the One. Maybe consider changing your handle to Neo turq, or Neo Barry No need to be modest about it. Come out of the closet, boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
always strange, what makes a good day for some people. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Made even more interesting in light of the assertion of Deepak Chopra that Marshy himself was poisoned some years ago, with Deepak of course cast in the role of savior, or co-savior perhaps I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a superman, obviously it's more inspiring if your guru has amazing powers like walking on water. That's why they invent these stories, it makes the decision to follow him to be a more important one than just choosing a type of meditation. Divine assurance perhaps. But I don't think Vaj invented it, it was part of Earl Kaplan's letter and he got it from whatever source in India he spoke to. I felt a bit sorry for him because he got duped by one cult and ran straight into the arms of another. I hope he's got some smarts at last and realised there is no authority but yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi. As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one. This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Made even more interesting in light of the assertion of Deepak Chopra that
Marshy himself was poisoned some years ago, with Deepak of course cast in the
role of savior, or co-savior perhaps
I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy
for people in other groups?
It can get much worse. Any time you have a group of people so lacking in real
self-esteem that they gain pretty much ALL of their sense of self-worth from 1)
the teacher they work with, 2) the group of people they're part of, or 3) both,
you've got the potential for major craziness.
They feel the need to constantly invent new myth-pedestals to put their
teachers on, because they believe that the higher they can pretend their
teacher is, the higher they are. Even crazier, the groups feel the need to
constantly put down other groups, because they believe that if they can make
these other groups appear shorter, they'll appear taller.
Too bad it doesn't work that way.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here,
Vaj.
Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the
other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a superman, obviously it's
more inspiring if your guru has amazing powers like walking on water. That's
why they invent these stories, it makes the decision to follow him to be a more
important one than just choosing a type of meditation. Divine assurance perhaps.
But I don't think Vaj invented it, it was part of Earl Kaplan's letter and he
got it from whatever source in India he spoke to. I felt a bit sorry for him
because he got duped by one cult and ran straight into the arms of another. I
hope he's got some smarts at last and realised there is no authority but
yourself.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jacksonwrote:
Ithink I asked this once a long time ago, but I amposting this again if so:
Whatwas the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard?
The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on aninternet discussion group.
The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered hismaster SBS, by
poisoning his food in a conspiracy with theJyotirmath Ashram cook.
The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS'sspecial ring and
ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will,the cook would get the
Shankaracharya highchair at the UpperKashi.
As far as rumors go, it is going to bedifficult to top this one.
Thiswould be something that was not part of the official TMcannon, nor any of
the majorly accepted ones (likeMarshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or
yogicflying brings world peace)
I amtalking about the boundless rumors we all heard oncourses and in TM
facilities and from TM old timers.
Minewould I think have to be the idea that having animalsaround when you are
meditating drains your energy. Thatone supposedly came from Marshy himself but
who knows.
Otherthan that it would be Claire Baxter's classic nevermeditate with your hair
wet because the stress yourelease comes out of your crown chakra, and if your
hairis wet the stress slides down your hair and goes intoyour lower spine.
Iinclude that one second, just because I only heard itfrom that one person and
the animal energy drain was oneI heard a lot from lots of different people.
Howbout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
uh, you might relate more to a certificate of bs. might fit your posting style a little better! lovin' ya, though! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Made even more interesting in light of the assertion of Deepak Chopra that Marshy himself was poisoned some years ago, with Deepak of course cast in the role of savior, or co-savior perhaps I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? It can get much worse. Any time you have a group of people so lacking in real self-esteem that they gain pretty much ALL of their sense of self-worth from 1) the teacher they work with, 2) the group of people they're part of, or 3) both, you've got the potential for major craziness. They feel the need to constantly invent new myth-pedestals to put their teachers on, because they believe that the higher they can pretend their teacher is, the higher they are. Even crazier, the groups feel the need to constantly put down other groups, because they believe that if they can make these other groups appear shorter, they'll appear taller. Too bad it doesn't work that way. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a superman, obviously it's more inspiring if your guru has amazing powers like walking on water. That's why they invent these stories, it makes the decision to follow him to be a more important one than just choosing a type of meditation. Divine assurance perhaps. But I don't think Vaj invented it, it was part of Earl Kaplan's letter and he got it from whatever source in India he spoke to. I felt a bit sorry for him because he got duped by one cult and ran straight into the arms of another. I hope he's got some smarts at last and realised there is no authority but yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi. As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one. This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! | | | | | | | | | | | It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
The 20 year internet obsession continues. Now, admit, this does has a nice ring to it, Barry the Stalker Coming soon on a pirated video! (thinking to myself, here) so, M doesn't use a certain word in some of the books he's written, and that proves what, again? oh, well. time to go to work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Good God woman, if you can seriously ask that question you need serious
intervention.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery
for the various levels. How is that different?
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment???
What bs.
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group
headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them
certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of
seeker.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Must agree With the Turq here, compassion is much overrated. The Buddhist's talk of compassion simply because they don't have much else to talk about. But our Space Brothers shows compassion by their actions to help and try prevent this planet from self-destruction. Amongst other things there is strong suggestions that they neutralize much of the nuclear radiaton produced by nuclear plants not measurable by our crude instruments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. We do have things to work on for sure. I'm sure if you asked most people about what it meant to be human they'd give us a glowing account despite the fact we've exterminated most large life forms and set the planet on course for an environmental disaster. We just don't like to think about the bad bits. I think we are OK individually but en masse we can screw up seriously. What funny critters we are! Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Hmmm, it is an interestingly absent part of the TM spiritual movement. a friend of mine said the same thing when I was telling him about the behaviour of our local TM teachers Sure sounds like they've developed a lot of compassion from all those decades meditating [eye roll] It's the sort of behaviour I just expect so I don't notice anything different, it stands out as a motiff though... I blame the teaching for telling people that meditating makes your thoughts more likely to be in tune with nature. A recipe for arrogance. Not that I think Share is arrogant, just a lot of the TM teachers I've met. Elitism, not pretty. I'm sure our new alien overlords will put a stop to it. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Or maybe it's that belligerence in us that will ultimately prevent us getting it together to leave Earth. Maybe it's only the ones that achieve proper spirituality that get to colonise the universe? Which would work as a kind of universal extinction failsafe. Handy! Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) Priceless, I'd love to see the rest of that. It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for the various levels. How is that different? I always thought that I should get a black belt for my yogic flying. I was proper good at it. Invincible defence from the unified field 3rd Dan, that was me. Sigh. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must agree With the Turq here, compassion is much overrated. The Buddhist's talk of compassion simply because they don't have much else to talk about. LOL, there's another way of looking at it! But our Space Brothers shows compassion by their actions to help and try prevent this planet from self-destruction. Amongst other things there is strong suggestions that they neutralize much of the nuclear radiaton produced by nuclear plants not measurable by our crude instruments. Can they do something about global warming then? I don't want to sound alarmist but that's the biggest threat we have, much worse than nuclear power. It isn't going to go away, without magic we have only one solution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I think this is the whole episode:
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I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it
is To Serve Man. :-)
Priceless, I'd love to see the rest of that.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must agree With the Turq here, compassion is much overrated. The Buddhist's talk of compassion simply because they don't have much else to talk about. LOL, there's another way of looking at it! But our Space Brothers shows compassion by their actions to help and try prevent this planet from self-destruction. Amongst other things there is strong suggestions that they neutralize much of the nuclear radiaton produced by nuclear plants not measurable by our crude instruments. Can they do something about global warming then? I don't want to sound alarmist but that's the biggest threat we have, much worse than nuclear power. It isn't going to go away, without magic we have only one solution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
I've heard very little of her music, nonetheless, she looks like a very self-aware person, very clear and focused - probably took to TM, like a duck to water. I cannot imagine the grueling schedule, and the constant attention of millions of fans, while continuing to produce and perform, and at the same time remain aware of who you are, and continue an every day life, of getting fed, and rested, and loved. Not very many can do that, and survive, much less thrive. Must be an unbelievable ride! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register. Leaving aside the preposterous idea that aliens can neutralise radiation, I'm sure we have created enough to make life extremely unpleasant if it ever got released. There's the thing, we buried it, it's still around. Silly us. There are millions of tons of nuclear waste we will have to watch for hundreds of thousands of years unless we start using it as fuel for the next generation of reactors. Which we are pretty much going to have to do because global warming continues to get worse, 2 degrees this century will make life very hard for our grandchildren. Any more after that and life gets very hard for everything, until you reach 6 degrees of warming, then the world belongs to underground mushrooms and not much else. Bit silly really, but there's no votes in shrinking the economy so maybe you could say that capitalism is our greatest threat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must agree With the Turq here, compassion is much overrated. The Buddhist's talk of compassion simply because they don't have much else to talk about. LOL, there's another way of looking at it! But our Space Brothers shows compassion by their actions to help and try prevent this planet from self-destruction. Amongst other things there is strong suggestions that they neutralize much of the nuclear radiaton produced by nuclear plants not measurable by our crude instruments. Can they do something about global warming then? I don't want to sound alarmist but that's the biggest threat we have, much worse than nuclear power. It isn't going to go away, without magic we have only one solution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Marvellous, even though I somehow knew what was going to happen... Good to see a young Richard Kiel making the most of his talents too! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I think this is the whole episode: The Twilight Zone To Serve Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6dXsjKcA9I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6dXsjKcA9I The Twilight Zone To Serve Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6dXsjKcA9I View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6dXsjKcA9I Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) Priceless, I'd love to see the rest of that. It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Yes, and she is a role model for millions of youths all over the world. Apparently she speaks of TM whenever she can and initiations is jumping wherever she goes. Like you said, to be able to do what she does and stay sane is quite an accomplishement. The Turq and MJ obviously being born with much heavier baggage one imagines what TM could do for them. Reaching out even to these fellows Maharishi showed real, practical compassion ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I've heard very little of her music, nonetheless, she looks like a very self-aware person, very clear and focused - probably took to TM, like a duck to water. I cannot imagine the grueling schedule, and the constant attention of millions of fans, while continuing to produce and perform, and at the same time remain aware of who you are, and continue an every day life, of getting fed, and rested, and loved. Not very many can do that, and survive, much less thrive. Must be an unbelievable ride! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
capitalism is our greatest threat. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
capitalism is our greatest threat. Don't worry about it, Maharishi's Programmes will take care of it. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Great, salyavin! But did you ENJOY?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for
the various levels. How is that different?
I always thought that I should get a black belt for my yogic flying. I was
proper good at it. Invincible defence from the unified field 3rd Dan, that was
me. Sigh.
From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment???
What bs.
From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed
by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them
certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of
seeker.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? On 11/17/2014 9:10 PM, awoelflebater wrote: You betcha I'm reading, Edg. Christ man, I love it when you're mad. You've just shot the bastard down in flames. You've fucking made my day. By this post Barry Wright has destroyed any credibility his writing may have previously contained - exposed as the /True Believer/ and a hypocrite of immense proportions. He actually truly believes he saw a guy levitate, hundreds of times, yet Barry claims it was a normal event. It's not normal - it's cognitive dissonance on a grand scale put forth as Woo Woo! Personally I don't care what he says or does, I just get tired of people lying all the time and trying to puff themselves up to make them seem better or more spiritually advanced than others. Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. /*I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - TurquoiseB */
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. The Turq's real problem is so lama-brainwashed that he actually believes that compassion will solve the problems of this planet. Nuclear radiation and the possible rise of sea levels is nothing compared to our lack of compassion ! Go figure indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? On 11/17/2014 9:10 PM, awoelflebater wrote: You betcha I'm reading, Edg. Christ man, I love it when you're mad. You've just shot the bastard down in flames. You've fucking made my day. By this post Barry Wright has destroyed any credibility his writing may have previously contained - exposed as the True Believer and a hypocrite of immense proportions. He actually truly believes he saw a guy levitate, hundreds of times, yet Barry claims it was a normal event. It's not normal - it's cognitive dissonance on a grand scale put forth as Woo Woo! Personally I don't care what he says or does, I just get tired of people lying all the time and trying to puff themselves up to make them seem better or more spiritually advanced than others. Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - TurquoiseB
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. The Turq's real problem is that he is so lama-brainwashed that he actually believes that compassion will solve the problems of this planet. Nuclear radiation and the possible rise of sea levels is nothing compared to our lack of compassion ! Go figure indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? On 11/17/2014 9:10 PM, awoelflebater wrote: You betcha I'm reading, Edg. Christ man, I love it when you're mad. You've just shot the bastard down in flames. You've fucking made my day. By this post Barry Wright has destroyed any credibility his writing may have previously contained - exposed as the True Believer and a hypocrite of immense proportions. He actually truly believes he saw a guy levitate, hundreds of times, yet Barry claims it was a normal event. It's not normal - it's cognitive dissonance on a grand scale put forth as Woo Woo! Personally I don't care what he says or does, I just get tired of people lying all the time and trying to puff themselves up to make them seem better or more spiritually advanced than others. Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - TurquoiseB
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Maharishi's technique of TM, that it can be successfully taught to anyone, by anyone, by systematizing both processes, is a work of spiritual genius. Easily the greatest invention of the 20th century, if not the millennium. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yes, and she is a role model for millions of youths all over the world. Apparently she speaks of TM whenever she can and initiations is jumping wherever she goes. Like you said, to be able to do what she does and stay sane is quite an accomplishement. The Turq and MJ obviously being born with much heavier baggage one imagines what TM could do for them. Reaching out even to these fellows Maharishi showed real, practical compassion ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I've heard very little of her music, nonetheless, she looks like a very self-aware person, very clear and focused - probably took to TM, like a duck to water. I cannot imagine the grueling schedule, and the constant attention of millions of fans, while continuing to produce and perform, and at the same time remain aware of who you are, and continue an every day life, of getting fed, and rested, and loved. Not very many can do that, and survive, much less thrive. Must be an unbelievable ride! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register. I don't think amounts of radiation that can seriously harm living things is hard to measure. Geiger counters and other means of measuring radiation were developed decades ago and they have only been getting more advanced and sensitive. I'd have to disagree with you on that one, Nabby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur wrote : ahhh, yes. On 11/17/2014 10:25 PM, awoelflebater wrote: An unconscious cry for help? It's a desperate grab for attention, obviously. He was exposed very early on by Judy over on Google Groups. The question is, why would a smart guy like Barry post such stpid stuff for Judy to read and risk ridicule from his peers by making mystical claims for levitation AND AT THE SAME TIME DISCREDIT EVERYONE ELSE''S SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCES? It just doesn't make any sense. He is a case of something, but it's much deeper than I want to go. Where is that quack Dr. Pete when we need him? Oh, I forgot, he's on Barry's Facebook friends list. Go figure. /Some tantric traditions are very hip to the exchange of energies between individuals, and also hip to the fact that someone who knows how can artificially add to their own kundalini or life energy by getting people to focus on them, and then sorta sucking the energy from that focused attention./ - TurquoiseB ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance of this phrase, used by anyone in the TMO. He is more interested in tooting his limp horn, than any sort of reality based conversation. As usual. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a feeling that it would emerge that you would in some way appoint yourself as being the One. Maybe consider changing your handle to Neo turq, or Neo Barry No need to be modest about it. Come out of the closet, boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:17 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : From: mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be created by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. On 11/17/2014 2:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your dome badge? Just for the record, the only informants on FFL that have been kicked out of the dome by the TMO are Rick, Michael, and Barry - for going over and blabbing to other Saints, Yogis and Fakirs and revealing the TM mantras outside the TM teaching environment. I never revealed TM mantras. I doubt Barry has ever even seen the dome, much less been in it. I doubt that he’s revealed any mantras either.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM./* What organization does?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
On 11/17/2014 10:26 PM, steve.sundur wrote: I think you're on the right track here. It would probably make more sense for the aliens to abduct humans for secret study or implants, than it would be for them to suddenly appear on the White House lawn and ask to see our leader. So in fact, what people have reported about alien abductions makes more sense than Barry's little green men scenario - invading the earth, raising hell and creating havoc with our minds causing us to go insane, /or in his case,not be affected at all. / It could be that Barry didn't realize that Rama was an alien and that he was offed because he knew too much. Go figure. Notes: 1. John Edward Mac was a student of Holotropic Breathwork, a meditative technique developed by Stanislav Grof. 2. The term 'abduction phenomenon' describes claims of non-human creatures kidnapping individuals and temporarily removing them from familiar terrestrial surroundings. Read more: Alien Abductions phenomenon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abduction_phenomenon John Edward Mack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward_Mack Recommended reading: *Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens* by John E. Mack, M.D. Scribner (August 1, 2007 *Extra-Planetary Experiences* Alien-Human Contact and the Expansion of Consciousness by Thomas James Streicher, Ph.D. Bear Company, 2012 *Alien Agenda* by Jim Marrs Harper, 2000 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. You're right. I'd bet there would be an increase in mental illness if we did contact aliens. As any advanced civilization capable of monitoring us would be aware of our fragile psyches I think it is likely that that is why they haven't introduced themselves. They're waiting for us to fully mature. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
IN addition, I was not kicked out of the Dome, I kicked myself out of it and as
a result was kicked out of MIU by Willy Sand Man. The TM mantras were revealed
by many teachers over a long period of time. Bravo for the TM teachers who did
so.
From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others +
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:17 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others +
Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ...
Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual
energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to
extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from
an element organization; could be created by simply removing complainant who
got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely
entertaining such negativity altogether in the group.
On 11/17/2014 2:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Excuse me, but isn't that what the TMO did with *you* when they took away your
dome badge?
Just for the record, the only informants on FFL that have been kicked out of
the dome by the TMO are Rick, Michael, and Barry - for going over and
blabbing to other Saints, Yogis and Fakirs and revealing the TM mantras outside
the TM teaching environment. I never revealed TM mantras. I doubt Barry has
ever even seen the dome, much less been in it. I doubt that he’s revealed any
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Great, Salyavin! But did you ENJOY? At first I liked the TMSP but after a while it was more of a drag than a pleasure. Like TM I think most of the pleasure derived are from the effects are you are told are happening but aren't really. When you forget the hyperbole there isn't that much to TM (but I still enjoy it) I don't remember there being much of anything to the TMSP at all, some nice experiences occasionally but mostly the opposite. And then I resented the amount of time it took before finally giving up, why it took so long for me to quit is a sign of the teaching methods effectiveness, being involved in cultish behaviour like that can make it hard to look honestly at what you are doing. But one day, I looked around the flying room and concluded the whole thing was bollocks and walked out. I have been much happier ever since. Others I know still like it, go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for the various levels. How is that different? I always thought that I should get a black belt for my yogic flying. I was proper good at it. Invincible defence from the unified field 3rd Dan, that was me. Sigh. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
[FairfieldLife] Nokia goes Android
Poor card, Nokia finally did what I said they should have done some time ago. http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/18/nokia-n1-tablet-launched/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance of this phrase, used by anyone in the TMO. He is more interested in tooting his limp horn, than any sort of reality based conversation. As usual. Maybe you just met some more realistic teachers, I heard many say that TM isn't the only path but it's the fastest one And that the siddhi's were like getting into the fast lane and putting your foot down. And I would swear that I heard Maharishi say it all too but can't give any context like whether it was from an old tape or from the Marshy channel. But where do you suppose the teachers got it from if not from the reesh? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a feeling that it would emerge that you would in some way appoint yourself as being the One. Maybe consider changing your handle to Neo turq, or Neo Barry No need to be modest about it. Come out of the closet, boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : capitalism is our greatest threat. Don't worry about it, Maharishi's Programmes will take care of it. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989 To be replaced with...?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I've heard very little of her music, nonetheless, she looks like a very self-aware person, very clear and focused - probably took to TM, like a duck to water. I cannot imagine the grueling schedule, and the constant attention of millions of fans, while continuing to produce and perform, and at the same time remain aware of who you are, and continue an every day life, of getting fed, and rested, and loved. Not very many can do that, and survive, much less thrive. Must be an unbelievable ride! I've been thinking the same, you old devil. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Geiger counters measure but the crudest harmful radiation. When our communication with the Space Brothers goes to the next step it will be seen that their greatest contribution to this planet was that they saved our lives by neutralized extremely dangerous radiation. A work that has been, and continues to be, in co-operation with the Hierarchy of Masters of which Maitreya is the most advanced and Guru Dev, Mary and Jesus from Nasareth prominent members. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register. I don't think amounts of radiation that can seriously harm living things is hard to measure. Geiger counters and other means of measuring radiation were developed decades ago and they have only been getting more advanced and sensitive. I'd have to disagree with you on that one, Nabby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
On 11/17/2014 11:02 PM, steve.sundur wrote: Tis true that impossible things are happening everyday, but the curmudgeonaliness seems pretty embedded. (-: /Their worldview is what is called the materialistic paradigm. According to this view, there is only one hard reality, namely that which is observable through the senses. This dualistic approach would separate the observer from the observed, subject from object - they don't seem to be able to explain consciousness in this new paradigm. In so doing, all of the information about other or unseen realities that has become available to us through consciousness research is blocked, so that they even restrict our understanding of consciousness and experience itself. From reading their posts, it would appear that any phenomenal experience that is not available to the senses is a sham. According to William James, it is a mistake to think of science is a closed and completed font of truth and that unclassifiable phenomena must be untrue. /Works cited: Wilber, Ken. *Eye to Eye: The Quest for the New Paradigm*. Shambhala Publications; 3 Revised edition, 2011 James, William. *What Psychical Research Has Accomplished*, Essays in Popular Philosophy New York: Dover. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ahhh, yes. An unconscious cry for help?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Yeah Katy Perry is a brilliant woman all right, so brilliant she married
Russell Brand who is such a classy guy he notified her of his intention to
divorce her via text message and later publicly stated he thought of anyone but
her when having sex with her. TM does bring out the best in folks doesn't it?
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:19 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Maharishi's technique of TM, that it can be successfully taught to anyone,
by anyone, by systematizing both processes, is a work of spiritual genius.
Easily the greatest invention of the 20th century, if not the millennium.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Yes, and she is a role model for millions of youths all over the world.
Apparently she speaks of TM whenever she can and initiations is jumping
wherever she goes. Like you said, to be able to do what she does and stay sane
is quite an accomplishement.The Turq and MJ obviously being born with much
heavier baggage one imagines what TM could do for them. Reaching out even to
these fellows Maharishi showed real, practical compassion !
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
I've heard very little of her music, nonetheless, she looks like a very
self-aware person, very clear and focused - probably took to TM, like a duck to
water. I cannot imagine the grueling schedule, and the constant attention of
millions of fans, while continuing to produce and perform, and at the same time
remain aware of who you are, and continue an every day life, of getting fed,
and rested, and loved. Not very many can do that, and survive, much less
thrive. Must be an unbelievable ride!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America.
Perry has two methods of battling jet lag.“One, my meditation, which I use all
over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep
rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says.Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag
and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it? -- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us? -- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it. -- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.' -- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it? -- That's right. -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Do your still TMSP practicing friends have tea with you, or do they avoid you
so as to not catch the OTP disease?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Great, Salyavin! But did you ENJOY?
At first I liked the TMSP but after a while it was more of a drag than a
pleasure. Like TM I think most of the pleasure derived are from the effects are
you are told are happening but aren't really. When you forget the hyperbole
there isn't that much to TM (but I still enjoy it) I don't remember there being
much of anything to the TMSP at all, some nice experiences occasionally but
mostly the opposite.
And then I resented the amount of time it took before finally giving up, why it
took so long for me to quit is a sign of the teaching methods effectiveness,
being involved in cultish behaviour like that can make it hard to look honestly
at what you are doing. But one day, I looked around the flying room and
concluded the whole thing was bollocks and walked out.
I have been much happier ever since. Others I know still like it, go figure.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for
the various levels. How is that different?
I always thought that I should get a black belt for my yogic flying. I was
proper good at it. Invincible defence from the unified field 3rd Dan, that was
me. Sigh.
From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment???
What bs.
From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed
by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them
certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of
seeker.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to
present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I just wish we all knew if you became psychotic from TM and TMSP or listening
to other hucksters like Creme.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Geiger counters measure but the crudest harmful radiation. When our
communication with the Space Brothers goes to the next step it will be seen
that their greatest contribution to this planet was that they saved our lives
by neutralized extremely dangerous radiation. A work that has been, and
continues to be, in co-operation with the Hierarchy of Masters of which
Maitreya is the most advanced and Guru Dev, Mary and Jesus from Nasareth
prominent members.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some
methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't
initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after
WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register.
I don't think amounts of radiation that can seriously harm living things is
hard to measure. Geiger counters and other means of measuring radiation were
developed decades ago and they have only been getting more advanced and
sensitive. I'd have to disagree with you on that one, Nabby.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
*From:* Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. On 11/17/2014 1:22 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. /* What we are missing, Barry, is why you are being so hypocritical about this and trying to discredit our subjective experiences. They ARE our experiences! If your experience was NO BIG DEAL, then why couldn't others see them as a BIG DEAL and not get smeared by you? You just don't seem to want to talk about the levitation events and you seem very defensive about it. Go figure. /I've experienced enlightenment many times. In my case, these were fleeting experiences, and they come and go, and furthermore, BFD. These experiences were very real to me, and I am comfortable with talking about them as if they were real./ - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Do your still TMSP practicing friends have tea with you, or do they avoid you so as to not catch the OTP disease? No one even mentions it, we don't talk much about movement things, except to find out what's going on with peace palaces and gossip etc. Or maybe they don't know! I haven't run into any real TBs recently but a few did tell me that I'll always be classed as a siddha even if I'm not doing it at the moment. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Great, Salyavin! But did you ENJOY? At first I liked the TMSP but after a while it was more of a drag than a pleasure. Like TM I think most of the pleasure derived are from the effects are you are told are happening but aren't really. When you forget the hyperbole there isn't that much to TM (but I still enjoy it) I don't remember there being much of anything to the TMSP at all, some nice experiences occasionally but mostly the opposite. And then I resented the amount of time it took before finally giving up, why it took so long for me to quit is a sign of the teaching methods effectiveness, being involved in cultish behaviour like that can make it hard to look honestly at what you are doing. But one day, I looked around the flying room and concluded the whole thing was bollocks and walked out. I have been much happier ever since. Others I know still like it, go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for the various levels. How is that different? I always thought that I should get a black belt for my yogic flying. I was proper good at it. Invincible defence from the unified field 3rd Dan, that was me. Sigh. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
FW: An other implication of this negativity statement is that it has effectively crushed any constructive criticism/discussion about the need for change and/or issues within the TMO. People who had constructive input to share were therefore at least unheard, and even dismissed and shunned. Honesty is the best policy -when there is money in it. -Mark Twain It is about Ethics as a Leading Economic Indicator. For the New TM movement changes from within process are a necessity of the marketplace.. FW: “Never Entertain Negativity”, This ethos never entertain negativity is a crux of the problem here. This has created a world of psycho-spiritual hurt in our tribe. FW: A Cultural Survey.. Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really bad ethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems is well known for things not being right around money, sex and power. “Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culture which has allowed, coerced, and condoned some really poor and even appalling ethical standards in a group of people. That would be my observation. It is said that change comes from within. There evidently is a lot of movement going on right now in the new TM Movement. I can see a hope for a better TM movement in process, like in changing or even getting rid of this ethos as an administrative policy tool. -Buck FW: Dear friends, ..on a committee, the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee for the Mental Health Alliance here in Fairfield I am working with a sub group of that committee, the Cultural Committee, on one particular area right now. Which is to understand the meaning of phrases that have become a part of our local culture here. There are phrases which mean many things to many here. Some of these meanings may have lead to an erosion in mental health. I have written this group as a smattering of a cross-culture living here to get your understanding of the phrase, Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Thank you, # # The 1980 Pledge. Things in TM did seem to change from about then to become some lot about some theocratic sense of fealty and a lot less as to merit and performance. Is noteworthy that the Saha Nav hymn was extracted up to become a normative organizational code of conduct in an oath then (1980). C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. Quote from Upanishads, which was used in Vedic Atom Pledge (1980) Let us be together, Let us eat together, Let us be vital together, Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life, Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Culture: Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Such that within the culture of TM the TM negativity policy like with the TM Saha Nav Hymn for instance, if someone commits a larceny within an element of the organization then by the teachings it would be entertaining negativity to administratively examine that action in another person or within such element of an organization by others. Or let us say hypothetically that someone commits some abusive harassment within an organizational element using some position of power over someone it would be committing a negativity to raise or consider that situation for the negativity that it should engage. Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be solved by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. Never do we entertain negativity and never do we denounce anyone. Hamstrung? Proly was often best to not say anything living within the culture. Dare anyone call a spade a spade in TM? -Buck # # “..speaking ill and thinking ill of someone, dwelling on the weaknesses of someone, all their bad qualities come to your heart; [this way] you get your heart and mind spoiled. So when through meditation, purity is growing in life, we don't invite this mud from
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM./* What organization does? */Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet:/* */ /* */-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. /(Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.)* */ /* */-- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it?/* */ /* */-- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us?/* */ /* */-- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it./* */ /* */-- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.'/* */ /* */-- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it?/* */ /* */-- That's right./* */ /* */-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce?/* */ /* */-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. /* */ /* */:-)/* It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means would it be the fastest. It really is just a meditation for the masses. It's nothing special other than it was probably better organized than some of the other front runners.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Falling crime rates explained...
Re If you're female and attending those colleges, you have a 1 in 4 chance of being raped: Unless US colleges are effectively war zones (which is where you do get such high proportions of women being sexually assaulted) my natural scepticism inclines me to take the 25 per cent figure with a large pinch of salt. That 1 in 4 statistic has been questioned. If you Google the figures (as I just did) you get loads of sites which take the figures as literally exact and lots of sites insisting that they are hopelessly exaggerated. Which way they lean seems to say more about the posters' prejudices than it does about hard facts. I haven't the time to wade through the arguments of the different positions taken or to do the maths - have you? If not, don't quote stats you can't back up. It isn't going to help the solution.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989 On 11/18/2014 11:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote: To be replaced with...? When we get into outer space we won't need any monetary system - /in space there is no need for money - nothing to buy, and nobody to buy anything from.No more figuring./
Re: [FairfieldLife] GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s Sales
On 11/17/2014 06:19 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 11/17/2014 1:51 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: /It may be as simple as people realizing that they don't need the carbs or the cow milk in order to feel good and eat right./ That depends on their metabolic state. It might be a great breakfast for pittas. feature_image_template GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s Sales http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ image http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s S... http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ Millions of people are making an impact when it comes to the fight against GMOs. In one of many of the latest boycott’s against companies who use geneticall... View on earthweareone.com http://earthweareone.com/gmo-activists-responsible-for-decreased-kelloggs-sales/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM./* What organization does? */Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet:/* */ /* */-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. /(Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.)* */ /* */-- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it?/* */ /* */-- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us?/* */ /* */-- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it./* */ /* */-- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.'/* */ /* */-- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it?/* */ /* */-- That's right./* */ /* */-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce?/* */ /* */-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. /* */ /* */:-)/* But now I have to ask: did you claim this in *your* intro lectures? Are you guilty as charged? I don't recall claiming this in mine. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: Snip -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-) Inspired. Here's a genuine conversation I had with a TM teacher at the academy: When you are enlightened you only have to desire something and it will be fulfilled instantly Really, what anything? I've got some pretty wild dreams you know.. Ah, but when you are enlightened your desires are fully in tune with the Laws of Nature so they may be different to what they are now More modest perhaps? Not so many lottery wins, time machines and supermodel girlfriends? You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled So what will I desire then? Rice and dhal. Provided you have a job Huh? I don't even get free money? It doesn't work with money, money isn't part of natural law But the Time Machine, I'll get that? I guarantee it (On my life that was a true conversation. Except for the rice and dhal answer. This guy had NO sense of humour)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
On 11/18/2014 11:16 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I just wish we all knew if you became psychotic from TM and TMSP or listening to other hucksters like Creme. /What I want to know is if you became psychotic from the TM and TMSP or the cognitive dissonance of listening to rebel yells./ *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:14 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Geiger counters measure but the crudest harmful radiation. When our communication with the Space Brothers goes to the next step it will be seen that their greatest contribution to this planet was that they saved our lives by neutralized extremely dangerous radiation. A work that has been, and continues to be, in co-operation with the Hierarchy of Masters of which Maitreya is the most advanced and Guru Dev, Mary and Jesus from Nasareth prominent members.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA
Share, IMO each system of astrology, including the western one, gives a certain angle or perspective of a person's birth chart. In total, they give a more comprehensive view of the person's life like a stereo effect. I believe David Hawthorne uses the Systems Approach, which is a variation from the traditional Parasara method. I've read a book about SA, but don't usually apply its techniques. I've attended seminars conducted by KN Rao and Sanjay Rath and often use their methods. However, at the present time, I'm using Nadi astrology to get a different perspective. My knowledge of NA is based on the videos I've seen on YouTube. If there are any seminars in California about Nadi astrology, I would attend it. But, so far, I'm not aware of any. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, in one system of jyotish, practiced by David Hawthorne here in FF, they say that every aspect will eventually get expressed. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA Share, Yes, that's a good observation. However, if you take a look at the sublord of Rahu's placement, Mercury becomes the stronger indicator for the US chart during the time period. In Nadi astrology, Mercury is strongly placed in the 7th house which is in the sign of Gemini. Since Mercury is also the lord of the 10th house, there is a good indication that the period of Rahu will be a prosperous one for the US people and the economy. Using the Parasara system of jyotish, however, the Rahu period is not very bright since it is placed in the 8th house of transformation. We'll just have to wait and see how the karma manifests for the country as a whole at that time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I think by then the US will be running the major period of Rahu so it might be good to have a president who's also running Rahu, even if subperiod. Two negatives canceling each other out and all that... From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Next President of the USA Rand Paul looks like he's got a fairly strong jyotish chart for winning the presidency. In 2016, he'll be running the major period of Saturn and the subperiod of Rahu. Using Nadi astrology technique, it is likely that he could win the Republican nomination for president and eventually the national election through a complicated turn of events. Given that the American electorate has favored the Republican agenda during the midterm elections, it appears more likely that the next president would be from the GOP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it? -- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us? -- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it. -- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.' -- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it? -- That's right. -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-) It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means would it be the fastest. It really is just a meditation for the masses. It's nothing special other than it was probably better organized than some of the other front runners. Bhairitu, it's not guaranteeing enlightenment that I'm riffing on for hopefully humorous purposes. It's the promising it for 50 years and never *producing* it I'm riffing on. That, and the fact that they got away with it because their clientele was too stupid to ever say, Now wait a minute...where are all these enlightened people you promised me I'd be surrounded by and be one of? Point them out to me. Show me an enlightened person. Someone saying that -- *anyone* saying that -- would have been the counterpart of the line in the fairy tale that goes, Uh, guys...you *have* noticed that the Emperor has no clothes on, right? Asked to put up or shut up and actually *produce* a certified TM enlightened person, the TMO wouldn't have been able to do so. It's all a house of cards perpetuated by the fact that no one ever says, Show me an enlightened person.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it? -- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us? -- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it. -- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.' -- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it? -- That's right. -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-) But now I have to ask: did you claim this in your intro lectures? Are you guilty as charged? I don't recall claiming this in mine. :-D The claims in intro lectures and printed brochures guaranteeing enlightenment in 5 to 8 years were from the 1967-1969 period. I didn't become a TM teacher until 1972. I am not enough of a TM movement historian to document exactly *when* such claims began to disappear from TM lectures and promotional materials, but I would bet that it was coincidentally about five years after they first appeared. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
That's excellent - a great summation of the TMO's sales pitches!
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
What organization does?
Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept,
think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything
else being sold on this planet:
-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and
we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note
that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.)
-- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I
can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but
tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra
courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince
me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and
that if it does, it's worth it?
-- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8
years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the
lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have
everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of
thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us?
-- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this
'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many
people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8
years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out
the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is
all going to be worth it.
-- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our
individual state of consciousness.'
-- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this
enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can
guarantee has achieved it?
-- That's right.
-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to
something you'll later refuse to ever produce?
-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this
exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker.
:-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Share claims some orgs are giving out certificates in enlightenment so they
must guarantee it somehow or other.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
What organization does?
Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to
accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost
anything else being sold on this planet:
-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75,
and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please
note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.)
-- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future,
I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75,
but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra
courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince
me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and
that if it does, it's worth it?
-- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8
years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the
lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have
everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of
thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us?
-- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that
this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are
many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8
years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out
the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is
all going to be worth it.
-- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about
our individual state of consciousness.'
-- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this
enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can
guarantee has achieved it?
-- That's right.
-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to
something you'll later refuse to ever produce?
-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this
exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker.
:-)
It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of
guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's
progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means
would it be the fastest. It really is just a meditation for the masses. It's
nothing special other than it was probably better organized than some of the
other front runners.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Even after all I have seen and heard some of the TM junkie mentality is still
hard to believe.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBeeturquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It's not so much a rumor, more ofa sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten achuckle from TM is the fastest path toenlightenment on the planet,
coming from anorganization that in over 50 years has been unableto produce even
a single person they can point atand say, This person is enlightened, and got
thatway as a result of practicing TM.
What organization does?
Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept,
think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything
else being sold on this planet:
Snip
-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to
something you'll later refuse to ever produce?
-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this
exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker.
:-)
Inspired. Here's a genuine conversation I had with a TM teacher at the academy:
When you are enlightened you only have to desire something and it will be
fulfilled instantly
Really, what anything? I've got some pretty wild dreams you know..
Ah, but when you are enlightened your desires are fully in tune with the Laws
of Nature so they may be different to what they are now
More modest perhaps? Not so many lottery wins, time machines and supermodel
girlfriends?
You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled
So what will I desire then?
Rice and dhal. Provided you have a job
Huh? I don't even get free money?
It doesn't work with money, money isn't part of natural law
But the Time Machine, I'll get that?
I guarantee it
(On my life that was a true conversation. Except for the rice and dhal answer.
This guy had NO sense of humour)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 3:59 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. And, don't forget the ColdBluIce, the discredited bhakti yoga impostor. According to these two rumor-mongers, SBS died because the Jyotirmath Ashram cook, in a conspiracy with the Mahesh Yogi, put poison in his food when they were down in Calcutta on a speaking tour. However, everyone knows that the cook was not even in Calcutta with SBS on that tour, and not even at the Jyotirmath - he was at the ashram in Allahabad when SBS died. According to the rumor, the cook was a guy named /Tilwari/, a former book-binder. In reality, the Jyotirmath cook was Swami Shantanand Saraswati, the foremost student of SBS. According to the rumor, the cook wanted to sit on the Shankaracharya high chair under the big umbrella, so he killed the Shankaracharya by putting something in his food. However, it should be noted that the cook, Shantanand, was mentioned in the will of SBS as his successor. So, Shantanand was the only direct-line disciple in the SBS succession tradition. Why would Shantanand want to kill SBS when he was already in direct line to succeed SBS in just a few years? It doesn't even make any sense. For the record, nobody has contested the SBS will in a court of Indian law. The rest of the rumor - /about the ring and the yantra/ - doesn't make any sens either. According to Perino and Vaj, the Mahesh Yogi couldn't get the high chair for caste reasons, so in a conspiracy with the ashram cook, SBS was murdered so that Mahesh could get the ring and the yantra. What ring? SBS didn't wear a ring on his finger and neither did MMY. It has not even been proven that SBS was in possession of a ruby-encrusted yantra - that's just another rumor! So, where is the SBS yantra and ring now? At Bevan's house? The whole rumor is just beyond belief and absurd on it's face put up by idiots. /That's what I think./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? /The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi./ /As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one./ This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nokia goes Android
Really? After the marketplace has finally realized that tablets pretty much suck compared to desktop and laptop computers, Nokia ditches Windows Phone and releases an Android tablet into an already crashing tablet market? That doesn't strike me as a very well thought out business strategy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : Poor card, Nokia finally did what I said they should have done some time ago. http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/18/nokia-n1-tablet-launched/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/18/nokia-n1-tablet-launched/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nokia goes Android
Nokia didn't ditch Window Mobile. Microsoft bought their phone line. Nokia will just be making tablets now. Don't forget that some of these work with keyboards. I don't think the tablet market is going away anything soon. People like them but it was anemic a couple years back. On 11/18/2014 10:34 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Really? After the marketplace has finally realized that tablets pretty much suck compared to desktop and laptop computers, Nokia ditches Windows Phone and releases an Android tablet into an already crashing tablet market? That doesn't strike me as a very well thought out business strategy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : Poor card, Nokia finally did what I said they should have done some time ago. http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/18/nokia-n1-tablet-launched/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 7:09 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for the various levels. How is that different? /It's not any different, Share - it's just the cognitive dissonance with MJ. In fact, in Qigong they give out belts of various colors to signify attainment. Everyone already knows that. All schools have certificates - the only thing in doubt is if MJ ever got one in anything, even High School. Go figure./ *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. *From:* Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. /* */ /* */Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path. /* */ /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
I only know that the Oneness organization headed by Bhagavan and Amma give such
certificates to those who are authorized to give diksha by touch. There are
only about 60 who give diksha by sight and their requirements are much more
strenuous.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Share claims some orgs are giving out certificates in enlightenment so they
must guarantee it somehow or other.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
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On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet,
coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce
even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened,
and got that way as a result of practicing TM.
What organization does?
Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to
accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost
anything else being sold on this planet:
-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75,
and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please
note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.)
-- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future,
I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75,
but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra
courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince
me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and
that if it does, it's worth it?
-- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8
years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the
lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have
everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of
thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us?
-- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that
this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are
many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8
years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out
the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is
all going to be worth it.
-- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about
our individual state of consciousness.'
-- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this
enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can
guarantee has achieved it?
-- That's right.
-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to
something you'll later refuse to ever produce?
-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this
exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker.
:-)
It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of
guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's
progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means
would it be the fastest. It really is just a meditation for the masses. It's
nothing special other than it was probably better organized than some of the
other front runners.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
German philosopher Schopenhauer (1840s) thought that alien life couldn't evolve to a higher level of intelligence than that already reached by humans. Why? He pointed out that in all human civilizations which have reached a settled level the most intelligent men and women realize that life isn't worth the candle and refuse to procreate, instead retreating to monasteries to contemplate their navels. He believed there would indeed be alien societies in space but assumed the same evolutionary process would be repeated on their planets. So you can forget about looking out for space brothers to help us out. They'll be as dumb as us. I quote him: We should be driven crazy if we contemplated the lavish and excessive arrangements, the countless flaming fixed stars in infinite space which have nothing to do but illuminate worlds which are the scene of misery and desolation and, in the luckiest case, yielding nothing but boredom - at any rate to judge from the specimen [ie, Earth] with which we are familiar. Cheerful bugger wasn't he? On the other hand, he was an early advocate of the humane treatment of animals. This quote made me smile: The highly intelligent dog, man's truest and most faithful friend, is put on a chain by him! Never do I see such a dog without feelings of the deepest sympathy for him and of profound indignation against his master. I think with satisfaction of a case, reported some years ago in The Times, where Lord - kept a large dog on a chain. One day as he was walking through the yard, he took it into his head to go and pat the dog, whereupon the animal tore his arm open from top to bottom, and quite right too! What he meant by this was: 'You are not my master, but my devil who makes a hell of my brief existence!' May this happen to all who chain up dogs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Did you know we received a message from the stars in 1977? : In the Wiki link about the possibly alien signal it says: In 2012, on the 35th anniversary of the Wow! signal, Arecibo Observatory beamed a response from humanity, containing 10,000 Twitter messages, in the direction from which the signal originated: Ye gods! After intelligent aliens wade their way through the messages from 10,000 twits they will definitely conclude that Earth is inhabited by small-minded, grudge-bearing oiks with the attention span of a gnat, and that our planet isn't worth visiting. Instead they should have sent 10,000 FairfieldLife messages to show them how enlightened we are ;-) Hmm, yes. First one to troll our new alien overlords does a double shift in the dilithium crystal mines. I always wondered if we should be a bit more careful with what we broadcast into space. Look at the average days TV, that's a bubble of drivel spreading away from us at the speed of light. What's an intelligent being going to make of it all? If they're a really Spock-like race they might take it all seriously, maybe that's they leave us alone...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
salyavin, I think few folks could match you for sense of humor. Yours is pretty
darn developed.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:54 AM
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBeeturquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
It's not so much a rumor, more ofa sales pitch or claim, but I've always
gotten achuckle from TM is the fastest path toenlightenment on the planet,
coming from anorganization that in over 50 years has been unableto produce even
a single person they can point atand say, This person is enlightened, and got
thatway as a result of practicing TM.
What organization does?
Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept,
think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything
else being sold on this planet:
Snip
-- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to
something you'll later refuse to ever produce?
-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this
exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker.
:-)
Inspired. Here's a genuine conversation I had with a TM teacher at the academy:
When you are enlightened you only have to desire something and it will be
fulfilled instantly
Really, what anything? I've got some pretty wild dreams you know..
Ah, but when you are enlightened your desires are fully in tune with the Laws
of Nature so they may be different to what they are now
More modest perhaps? Not so many lottery wins, time machines and supermodel
girlfriends?
You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled
So what will I desire then?
Rice and dhal. Provided you have a job
Huh? I don't even get free money?
It doesn't work with money, money isn't part of natural law
But the Time Machine, I'll get that?
I guarantee it
(On my life that was a true conversation. Except for the rice and dhal answer.
This guy had NO sense of humour)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? On 11/18/2014 7:09 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */It can get much worse. Any time you have a group of people so lacking in real self-esteem that they gain pretty much ALL of their sense of self-worth from 1) the teacher they work with, 2) the group of people they're part of, or 3) both, you've got the potential for major craziness./* /**/ Oh Gawd - this is getting to be too much for us to deal with - this is the exact opposite of what you just posted on your web site! /So what you do is, if you are not capable of going into samadhi yourself, you try and find a teacher who is, and you sit with them on a weekly or monthly or daily basis, depending on your proximity to the teacher. And just to be around them, if the teacher is truly enlightened, that energy and light is always coming forth from them./ - Rama */They feel the need to constantly invent new myth-pedestals to put their teachers on, because they believe that the higher they can pretend their teacher is, the higher they are. Even crazier, the groups feel the need to constantly put down other groups, because they believe that if they can make these other groups appear shorter, they'll appear taller. /* /To be in their physical presence is a great boon, not of the teacher but of that light which passes through them. If you can develop a connection, what we call an inner connection with the teacher, then it is not even necessary to be in the physical presence of the teacher, although it will always be stronger. - /Rama */Too bad it doesn't work that way./* How could a single person get so confused? Go figure. http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm03.html http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm03.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
First of all, I'm familiar with spiritual groups who proclaim people enlightened. I didn't always agree with their proclamations! And as mentioned, I know of a group who gives certificates of enlightenment. Maybe they use different criteria than me! I also know people in the TMO who I think are pretty darn enlightened. But of course they don't proclaim themselves as such. The whole thing is such a hodge podge that I simply ignore all the posturing and go by my own sense of a person. And actually, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they're enlightened. There are other qualities that I value more. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it? -- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us? -- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it. -- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.' -- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it? -- That's right. -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-) It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means would it be the fastest. It really is just a meditation for the masses. It's nothing special other than it was probably better organized than some of the other front runners. Bhairitu, it's not guaranteeing enlightenment that I'm riffing on for hopefully humorous purposes. It's the promising it for 50 years and never *producing* it I'm riffing on. That, and the fact that they got away with it because their clientele was too stupid to ever say, Now wait a minute...where are all these enlightened people you promised me I'd be surrounded by and be one of? Point them out to me. Show me an enlightened person. Someone saying that -- *anyone* saying that -- would have been the counterpart of the line in the fairy tale that goes, Uh, guys...you *have* noticed that the Emperor has no clothes on, right? Asked to put up or shut up and actually *produce* a certified TM enlightened person, the TMO wouldn't have
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till it became obvious that no one was getting enlightened even with the 10,000 times more powerful than TM TMSP program so he switched to world peace. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor First of all, I'm familiar with spiritual groups who proclaim people enlightened. I didn't always agree with their proclamations! And as mentioned, I know of a group who gives certificates of enlightenment. Maybe they use different criteria than me! I also know people in the TMO who I think are pretty darn enlightened. But of course they don't proclaim themselves as such. The whole thing is such a hodge podge that I simply ignore all the posturing and go by my own sense of a person. And actually, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they're enlightened. There are other qualities that I value more. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it? -- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us? -- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it. -- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.' -- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it? -- That's right. -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-) It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means would it be the fastest. It really is just a meditation for the masses. It's nothing special other than it was probably better organized than some of the other front runners. Bhairitu, it's not guaranteeing enlightenment that I'm riffing on for hopefully humorous purposes. It's the promising it for 50 years and never *producing* it I'm riffing on.
[FairfieldLife] Philae has detected organic molecules
The Philae lander has detected organic molecules on the surface of its comet, scientists have confirmed. The compounds were picked up by a German-built instrument designed to sniff the comet's thin atmosphere. OK - so organic molecules aren't life as we know it, but they were found on a measly comet. Pity we've lost the phone connection - just when the conversation was getting interesting.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till it became obvious that no one was getting enlightened even with the 10,000 times more powerful than TM TMSP program so he switched to world peace. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor First of all, I'm familiar with spiritual groups who proclaim people enlightened. I didn't always agree with their proclamations! And as mentioned, I know of a group who gives certificates of enlightenment. Maybe they use different criteria than me! I also know people in the TMO who I think are pretty darn enlightened. But of course they don't proclaim themselves as such. The whole thing is such a hodge podge that I simply ignore all the posturing and go by my own sense of a person. And actually, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they're enlightened. There are other qualities that I value more. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it? -- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us? -- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk to them to figure out if this is all going to be worth it. -- Sorry. insert reverential tone of bullshit here 'We don't talk about our individual state of consciousness.' -- WTF? So you're saying that I just have to TRUST you about all this enlightenment stuff, and you are NEVER going to show me anyone who you can guarantee has achieved it? -- That's right. -- You DO know that this is insane, right? Promising the 'fastest path' to something you'll later refuse to ever produce? -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. :-) It's a path to enlightenment but my point was that no organization I know of guarantees it. You can't. It even goes against TM teaching because one's progress is dependent on the state of their nervous system. And by no means
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
turq, I'm not suffering. That's YOUR Unfounded Assumption!
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically
assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part
is, how would ultra compassion be expressed?
Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some
think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space
is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have
conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together.
It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded
Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most
developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the
extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed
here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears
likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years,
also hardly an indicator of compassion.
Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being
more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word*
compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the
Bhagavad-Gita.
Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't
do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word
compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with
him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life.
Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe
it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the
environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the
environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in.
It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared
on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would
be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the
ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species.
Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to
annihilate, not lookin' for friends.
Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the
friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that
it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and
curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you
want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you
wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running -
you've got 30 years before we get there.
Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late
I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it
is To Serve Man. :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 7:12 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a feeling that it would emerge that you would in some way appoint yourself as being the One. Maybe consider changing your handle to Neo turq, or Neo Barry No need to be modest about it. Come out of the closet, boy. It's an amazing case study, Steve. So, I wonder how a guy like Barry could get so totally turned around in such a short space of time? Why would anyone upload mystical phrases to their own web site, and then go on a public news group and disclaim everything they just wrote? Go figure. From Barry's own web site: /You don't need to be able to absorb a tremendous amount of the mystical kundalini to realize God. It's not necessary. You can do it through the supraconscious light; that is the easier way./ - Rama http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm03.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. /* */ /* */Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path. /* */ /*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philae has detected organic molecules
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The Philae lander has detected organic molecules on the surface of its comet, scientists have confirmed. The compounds were picked up by a German-built instrument designed to sniff the comet's thin atmosphere. OK - so organic molecules aren't life as we know it, but they were found on a measly comet. Pity we've lost the phone connection - just when the conversation was getting interesting. Cool! That's just the sort of thing it was after. Just think, they'll be more than 3.5 billion years old and the very same stuff that we are ultimately made of, sitting on a comet all that time. That's my sense of perspective satisfied for the day. Cheers! And apparently, they think Philae might come back to life when it gets closer to the sun. So maybe there's more..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philae has detected organic molecules
What the hell is the matter with you folks? How can you sit here, calmly discussing sciency shit, when the guy in charge of the science wore a tacky shirt? Priorities, people! Sheesh! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The Philae lander has detected organic molecules on the surface of its comet, scientists have confirmed. The compounds were picked up by a German-built instrument designed to sniff the comet's thin atmosphere. OK - so organic molecules aren't life as we know it, but they were found on a measly comet. Pity we've lost the phone connection - just when the conversation was getting interesting. Cool! That's just the sort of thing it was after. Just think, they'll be more than 3.5 billion years old and the very same stuff that we are ultimately made of, sitting on a comet all that time. That's my sense of perspective satisfied for the day. Cheers! And apparently, they think Philae might come back to life when it gets closer to the sun. So maybe there's more..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philae has detected organic molecules
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : What the hell is the matter with you folks? How can you sit here, calmly discussing sciency shit, when the guy in charge of the science wore a tacky shirt? Priorities, people! Sheesh! Funnily enough, I was just reading about that. Apparently the guy was in tears at all the criticim and was forced to do a public apology. But get this, his wife made that shirt for his birthday and he just wanted to wear it on the proudest day of his life! Makes me want one. Nearly. And did you see his tattoo? groups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The Philae lander has detected organic molecules on the surface of its comet, scientists have confirmed. The compounds were picked up by a German-built instrument designed to sniff the comet's thin atmosphere. OK - so organic molecules aren't life as we know it, but they were found on a measly comet. Pity we've lost the phone connection - just when the conversation was getting interesting. Cool! That's just the sort of thing it was after. Just think, they'll be more than 3.5 billion years old and the very same stuff that we are ultimately made of, sitting on a comet all that time. That's my sense of perspective satisfied for the day. Cheers! And apparently, they think Philae might come back to life when it gets closer to the sun. So maybe there's more..
[FairfieldLife] Star Wars?
Maybe they are after the Space Brothers for stealing all our radiation? The people should be told. Is Russia flying a satellite killer around space? Unidentified Russian satellite prompts space weapon worries http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/is-russia-flying-a-satellite-killer-around-space-unidentified-russian-satellite-prompts-space-weapon-worries-9867149.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/is-russia-flying-a-satellite-killer-around-space-unidentified-russian-satellite-prompts-space-weapon-worries-9867149.html Is Russia flying a satellite killer around space? Uniden... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/is-russia-flying-a-satellite-killer-around-space-unidentified-russian-satellite-prompts-space-weapon-worries-9867149.html A mysterious Russian object is being tracked by space agencies, giving new life to fears about the increase of space weapons. View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/is-russia-flying-a-satellite-killer-around-space-unidentified-russian-satellite-prompts-space-weapon-worries-9867149.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 7:17 AM, steve.sundur wrote: uh, you might relate more to a certificate of bs. might fit your posting style a little better! /Or, a GED certificate. / lovin' ya, though! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. /* */ /* */Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path. /* */ /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
I've always said the experiencing enlightenment is the thing to say even if it is for a few minutes a day. Honestly, I think some folks believe that enlightenment will put them in a perpetual state of celestial consciousness as if you were always on LSD. That, of course, would not be very practical. Basically it is an inner silence which is not pervasive or you could never deal with everyday situations. You'd just have to sit there like a lump. People here who experience that inner silence (and I believe there are probably more than a few here who do) know that they have it when they focus on it but when they need to focus on worldly things it doesn't get in the way. I know a number of people who even just doing TM will say CC was a long time ago. Whether you got there or not seems to depend on your nervous system or maybe if you are more spiritually inclined then development in past incarnations. People like to say that those who popped into are probably old souls. So even the spiritual community will have a group who is sorry to say left behind. If you could force them into enlightenment they might not be able to handle it. Believe me, I also know people who practiced TM and said they never experienced transcendence just some relaxation. I hope they only paid no more than $75 for it then. Another faux paus is that some people believe there are personality markers that indicate enlightenment. That is not true at all. So you can't judge the book by it's cover especially on the Internet. ;-) On 11/18/2014 11:26 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: First of all, I'm familiar with spiritual groups who proclaim people enlightened. I didn't always agree with their proclamations! And as mentioned, I know of a group who gives certificates of enlightenment. Maybe they use different criteria than me! I also know people in the TMO who I think are pretty darn enlightened. But of course they don't proclaim themselves as such. The whole thing is such a hodge podge that I simply ignore all the posturing and go by my own sense of a person. And actually, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they're enlightened. There are other qualities that I value more. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM./* What organization does? */Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet:/* */ /* */-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. /(Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.)* */ /* */-- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it?/* */ /* */-- Well, you just have to trust us. Give us your money now, and in 5 to 8 years (ooops, sorry about that) you'll be enlightened. And you've heard the lectures -- when you're enlightened, you'll be able to know everything and have everything you want just by wanting it. Isn't that worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars (ooops again) you'll wind up paying us?/* */ /* */-- It *might* be worth it, but what can you show me to prove to me that this 'enlightenment' you're selling me actually exists? For example, there are many people here in the room today who have been practicing TM for more than 8 years, the maximum time you say it will take to become enlightened. Point out the ones who are enlightened, and let me talk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Philae has detected organic molecules
On 11/18/2014 11:49 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The Philae lander has detected organic molecules on the surface of its comet, scientists have confirmed. The compounds were picked up by a German-built instrument designed to sniff the comet's thin atmosphere. OK - so organic molecules aren't life as we know it, but they were found on a measly comet. Pity we've lost the phone connection - just when the conversation was getting interesting. Cool! That's just the sort of thing it was after. Just think, they'll be more than 3.5 billion years old and the very same stuff that we are ultimately made of, sitting on a comet all that time. That's my sense of perspective satisfied for the day. Cheers! And apparently, they think Philae might come back to life when it gets closer to the sun. So maybe there's more.. So what happens when a chunk of a comet with some molecules in it hits the earth, is able to survive the entrance to the atmosphere and decides this is a new cool place to live? _
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized that the success rate was terrible. People were in it for enlightenment, but very few were actually getting enlightened. If this were a business, I thought, we'd be bankrupt.' 'I think it's unfortunate that a person can spend hour after hour, day after day, year after year, dedicating his life to enlightenment, and yet the very notion that anybody attains enlightenment is a taboo. We're all going after this; but God forbid somebody says they've realized it. We don't believe them, we're cynical, we have doubt; we go immediately into a semi- (or overt) attack mode. To me, it highlights the fact that people are chasing an awakening they don't believe could happen to them. That's a barrier, and the biggest one... And when people have breakthroughs and talk about them in public, awakening loses its mystique. Everyone else can see that it's not just special people who have deep awakenings, it's their neighbor or their best friend.' The TMO seemed to do pretty well for a while selling something nobody seems to have found. Perhaps one reason for this is the ideas we have in our heads about what enlightenment is supposed to be. The usual ideas about what enlightenment is, are something out of a comic book, something fantastical. Maybe it is something not quite so interesting to talk about, something so familiar that you discount it entirely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, speak for yourself! I was never chasing enlightenment. I simply wanted to fulfill my desires. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till it became obvious that no one was getting enlightened even with the 10,000 times more powerful than TM TMSP program so he switched to world peace. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor First of all, I'm familiar with spiritual groups who proclaim people enlightened. I didn't always agree with their proclamations! And as mentioned, I know of a group who gives certificates of enlightenment. Maybe they use different criteria than me! I also know people in the TMO who I think are pretty darn enlightened. But of course they don't proclaim themselves as such. The whole thing is such a hodge podge that I simply ignore all the posturing and go by my own sense of a person. And actually, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they're enlightened. There are other qualities that I value more. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. What organization does? Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet: -- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. (Please note that this actually *happened* with the TM movement.) -- Sounds good, but looking into my crystal ball that shows me the future, I can see that what you're trying to sell me isn't going to cost me only $75, but tens of thousands of dollars over 30 or 40 years, to pay for all the extra courses and 'add-ons' you'll try to sell me. What can you show me to convince me that this 'enlightenment' you're trying to sell me will actually occur, and that if it does, it's worth it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Philae has detected organic molecules
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 11/18/2014 11:49 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The Philae lander has detected organic molecules on the surface of its comet, scientists have confirmed. The compounds were picked up by a German-built instrument designed to sniff the comet's thin atmosphere. OK - so organic molecules aren't life as we know it, but they were found on a measly comet. Pity we've lost the phone connection - just when the conversation was getting interesting. Cool! That's just the sort of thing it was after. Just think, they'll be more than 3.5 billion years old and the very same stuff that we are ultimately made of, sitting on a comet all that time. That's my sense of perspective satisfied for the day. Cheers! And apparently, they think Philae might come back to life when it gets closer to the sun. So maybe there's more.. So what happens when a chunk of a comet with some molecules in it hits the earth, is able to survive the entrance to the atmosphere and decides this is a new cool place to live? _ We're only talking the building blocks, assemblages of atoms not actual life. Left to their own devices somewhere nice and warm for a few hundred million years and they might make it to bacterial levels of complexity. Or they might not. But they definitely did it here or we wouldn't be having this conversation. Cool stuff.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
On 11/18/2014 10:47 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance of this phrase, used by anyone in the TMO. He is more interested in tooting his limp horn, than any sort of reality based conversation. As usual. /You can pretty much forget getting any response about this from Barry. So, I'll tell you about the rumor According to the rumor, Barry himself made up the phrase about TM being the fastest way to enlightenment. It was Barry that made up the infamous posters that promised enlightenment in 5-7 years and he apparently posted them all over town. From what I've heard, Jerry was really pissed. That's just one of the reasons Barry got kicked out of the TMO - for making stuff up. Just like he makes up stuff about Rama levitating and stuff. Its a pattern./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a feeling that it would emerge that you would in some way appoint yourself as being the One. Maybe consider changing your handle to Neo turq, or Neo Barry No need to be modest about it. Come out of the closet, boy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM. /* */ /* */Think of it...over 50 years with a single success story they're willing to present in public, and they still claim to be the fastest path. /* */ /*
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Cultural Survey, Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
What has it meant? FW: Not only its results in an unhealthy degree of aversion for the realities of life, another result is a sense of spiritual failure that one even HAS trials and difficulties at all. After all, we are all about perfect health! FW: An other implication of this negativity statement is that it has effectively crushed any constructive criticism/discussion about the need for change and/or issues within the TMO. People who had constructive input to share were therefore at least unheard, and even dismissed and shunned. ..like the signature of some Prime Minister’s 40 years rule. Honesty is the best policy -when there is money in it. -Mark Twain It is about Ethics as a Leading Economic Indicator now. For the New TM movement changes from within process are a necessity of the marketplace.. FW: “Never Entertain Negativity”, This ethos never entertain negativity is a crux of the problem here. This has created a world of psycho-spiritual hurt in our tribe. FW: A Cultural Survey.. Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. What has it meant? Culturally this sanctioning of blindness has allowed some really bad ethical behavior to go unchecked. In the marketplace TM it seems is well known for things not being right around money, sex and power. “Never entertain negativity” is a root of silence in its culture which has allowed, coerced, and condoned some really poor and even appalling ethical standards in a group of people. That would be my observation. It is said that change comes from within. There evidently is a lot of movement going on right now in the new TM Movement. I can see a hope for a better TM movement in process, like in changing or even getting rid of this ethos as an administrative policy tool. -Buck FW: Dear friends, ..on a committee, the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee for the Mental Health Alliance here in Fairfield I am working with a sub group of that committee, the Cultural Committee, on one particular area right now. Which is to understand the meaning of phrases that have become a part of our local culture here. There are phrases which mean many things to many here. Some of these meanings may have lead to an erosion in mental health. I have written this group as a smattering of a cross-culture living here to get your understanding of the phrase, Never entertain negativity. Would you be so kind as to give us your understanding of what this phrase has meant to you and how your understanding has impacted your life. And if you wish to ask someone else their view on this phrase and submit it with yours, that would be great. Thank you, # # The 1980 Pledge. Things in TM did seem to change from about then to become some lot about some theocratic sense of fealty and a lot less as to merit and performance. Is noteworthy that the Saha Nav hymn was extracted up to become a normative organizational code of conduct in an oath then (1980). C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. Quote from Upanishads, which was used in Vedic Atom Pledge (1980) Let us be together, Let us eat together, Let us be vital together, Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life, Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Culture: Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. Such that within the culture of TM the TM negativity policy like with the TM Saha Nav Hymn for instance, if someone commits a larceny within an element of the organization then by the teachings it would be entertaining negativity to administratively examine that action in another person or within such element of an organization by others. Or let us say hypothetically that someone commits some abusive harassment within an organizational element using some position of power over someone it would be committing a negativity to raise or consider that situation for the negativity that it should engage. Organizationally it would might even be communally better from a spiritual energetic standpoint as to negativity than having to denounce anyone thence to extend this teaching and hence better to remove the complaining negativity from an element organization; could be solved by simply removing complainant who got exploited, packing their bags, and thus alleviate the possibility of widely entertaining such negativity altogether in the group. Never do we entertain negativity and never do we denounce anyone. Hamstrung? Proly was often best to not say anything living within the culture. Dare
