Re: [Freedos-user] loading other config.sys?
Hi! 12-Май-2008 14:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Is it possible to include from one config.sys a file config2.sys and execute the content of config2.sys right after config.sys? No. But why you need this? [...] EA You can have a menu system in (fd)config.sys but it has different EA syntax than MS DOS config.sys ... Arkady made a patch to support both EA FreeDOS and MS DOS syntax but that patch is not in the kernel (guys, EA could we add that patch now? Thanks :-)). Eric, I update look-and-feel, not syntax. I was send you full changelog, do you receive it? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-devel] Floppy with Freedos + Euphoria Language
Hi! Marco Achury 05.04.08 9:02 wrote: I like the Euphoria language. The WIN32 pack includes a DOS32 interpreter. I have added a interpreter of Euphoria language to a Freedos emergency floppy and some aditional utilities. You can download at: http://www.rapideuphoria.com/eudos.zip Well, I look at this language. Very interesting and promising. Probably, not superb, but for everyday use much better, than static languages like C or Pascal. - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [OT?] Connect file manager
Hi! 25-Апр-2008 20:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Xaver) wrote to freedos-user freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: FX just played around with this file manager. Beside Necromancer DOS FX Navigator this is also a feature-rich program. It has a very good FX editor and a html-viewer (with support of hyperlinks). So also FX interesting for the FreeDOS projekt - I think :-) Unfortunately, it uses proprietary libraries (from TurboPower) and thus can't be easily used in legitimate world without some efforts. FX http://www.kiarchive.ru/pub/msdos/shell/connect/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?
Hi! 21-Мар-2008 22:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: ST Thankyou!, we eventually created a .lib file from the object file we had ST using TCLIB, then the rest became easy! ST TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIBEnter Not need to make library from object file, just specify object file directly: tcc src1.c src2.c moxa1.obj moxa2.obj - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?
Hi! 21-Фев-2008 23:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to Freedos users freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: ST We've managed to get Borland Turbo C 2.0 to compile a large model test file ST without error, but we need to link to an OBJ file provided by the ST manufacturer of the card. ST How do we tell the Borland development environemt that we need to link to ST this OBJ ? If you mean TC IDE, then open Project menu and press F1. Then you will read: In its simplest form, the project file is just a list of the C source file names that make up your program. Also, take a look at examples of TC2 - there is, for example, mcalc.prj. ST We know that the object file contains the externals we need, because if we ST TLINK to the OBJ at the command line they get resolved, but if we link at ST the command line, printf and various other parts of the C libraries aren't ST getting resolved, and just linking to CL.LIB wasn't enough to resolve all ...But if you need command line, just specify required .obj file at TCC command line between source files. For example, read HELPME!.DOC, especially next topic: Q. Why does the linker tell me that all the graphics library routines are undefined? A. TCC will not search the graphics library unless you tell it to. You should specify the graphics library on the command line. For example, to compile BGIDEMO, type TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIBEnter - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD DEBUG v1.09 (and cpulevel2007)
Hi! 31-Дек-2007 16:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: is there, it's the Year's End Edition: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=2808 http://www.japheth.de/dwnload4.html EA PS: There is also a new edition of my CPULEVEL tool -- Let me too announce update for one my small utility: http://avb.starnet.ru/files/KEEPTM12.RAR KEEPTIME v1.2 - Backup system date/time to time stamp of file [1.2, 2007/12/01] + date now shown with verbose description for month and day of week. Description --- Syntax: keeptime filename-to-store-time KEEPTIME stores system time to time stamp of given file (and creates file if it absent) or restores system time from time stamp of file if file time newer than system time. KEEPTIME highly useful for computers with occasionally (or when computer turned off) cleared clock - KEEPTIME should be runned there at least at startup (in autoexec.bat) and before shutdown (to keep most modern time). Example: keeptime keeptime.com Errorlevel: nonzero if system time updated from file time. KEEPTIME also may be called to view current date and time - in DOS shell is none such native possibility, whereas DATE and TIME commands require user intervention or redirection. To eliminate disk accesses when KEEPTIME used for date/time view, may be used fictive device driver like NUL. Example: keeptime nul - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] keyboard function and cursor key remapping problem
Hi! 11-Июн-2007 16:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: How can I remap function and cursor keys to those char codes: F1 to F6 to char codes 0xb1 to 0xb6 left right up down to char codes 8, 6, 0x0b, 5 EA I think both KEYB and NANSI could do that, but can anybody EA explain which config files / strings have to be used for EA that and how they are activated in KEYB or NANSI? With active ANSI.SYS, you should send these codes specific Esc codes. For remapping keyboard, there is next code: ESC[code;string;...p Set Keyboard Strings: Redefines a keyboard key to a specified string. The parameters for this escape sequence are defined as follows: * Code is one or more of the values listed in the following table. These values represent keyboard keys and key combinations. When using these values in a command, you must type the semicolons shown in this table in addition to the semicolons required by the escape sequence. The codes in parentheses are not available on some keyboards. ANSI.SYS will not interpret the codes in parentheses for those keyboards unless you specify the /X switch in the DEVICE command for ANSI.SYS. * String is either the ASCII code for a single character or a string contained in quotation marks. For example, both 65 and A can be used to represent an uppercase A. IMPORTANT: Some of the values in the following table are not valid for all computers. Check your computer's documentation for values that are different. Key Code SHIFT+code CTRL+code ALT+code ─── F10;59 0;840;94 0;104 F20;60 0;850;95 0;105 F30;61 0;860;96 0;106 F40;62 0;870;97 0;107 F50;63 0;880;98 0;108 F60;64 0;890;99 0;109 F70;65 0;900;100 0;110 F80;66 0;910;101 0;111 F90;67 0;920;102 0;112 F10 0;68 0;930;103 0;113 F11 0;133 0;135 0;137 0;139 F12 0;134 0;136 0;138 0;140 HOME (num keypad) 0;71 55 0;119 ── ... - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Long pathnames in freedos
Hi! 14-Апр-2007 17:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: EA actually your PATH -can- be very long, but the length EA of each line in your autoexec is limited. You could do sth like EA set path=C:\fdos\root\base EA set path=%path%;C:\fdos\root\drv\usb EA set path=%path%;c:\fdos\root\drv\ansi No, you can't. __O\_/_\_/O__ FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] C:\set a= C:\set a=%a%; C:\set a=%a%; C:\set a=%a%; Can not set environment variable 'A'. Environment full? _ O/~\ /~\O Same (was) for MS-command.com, which expands variables inside limited string. EA A more efficient way would be to put the binaries in EA fewer directories and/or put batch files there (or EA alias definitions in autoexec) to point to where EA you have your binaries now. Absolutely agreed. Unfortunately, in MS-command.com batch files are so dumb and different from executables, whereas there are no native aliases... :( - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Resident Calculator
Hi! 19-Фев-2007 18:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oleg O. Chukaev) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: OOC FreeDOS, like most DOSes, does not have its own resident calculator. OOC TSR calculator is a very useful tool for DOS users and programmers. OOC Therefore, I wrote the FreeDOS Resident Calculator (FDRC) -- TSR OOC calculator with 32-bit arithmetical/logical operations, Not enough (because _complete_ calculator should support both programmers integer calculations _and_ non-integer arithmetic). Most convenient (in sense of non-integer arithmetic results) calculator, which I seen, was NDOS' [EMAIL PROTECTED] opeartor. OOC reverse OOC polish notation, Useful only for experienced programmers and/or in case of very limited resources. Not convenient for end users. OOC history, and others features. FDRC is an open OOC source program, distributed under the terms of the GNU GPL. OOC You can download FDRC here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fdrc/. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] test
This is test letter to test 8-bit texts handling on sourceforge. Это тестовое письмо для теста работы с 8-битным текстом на sf. PS: There 2 paragraphs above (with empty line after each), each with 2 lines in it. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] test
Hi! 10-Фев-2007 01:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dima) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Это тестовое письмо для теста работы с 8-битным текстом на sf. d Мне кажется, что тест прошёл успешно. Sorry, no - problem was, that sf not reports itself as 8bit-capable, and postservers was convert letters to base64 before sending them to sf. Unfortunately, this problem not fixed yet. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Error report: 'Invalid Opcode...'
Hi! 21-Янв-2007 21:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: rn fdconfig.sys: rn MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free rn MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386+EMS and SHARE rn MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver rn MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers Is problem happen in all configurations? What happen if you not load anything? rn autoexec.bat: rn LH DOSLFN rn LH PERUSE /X3000 What is peruse? Is problem happen, if you not load these programs? rn CLOCK /S /G rn MENU Same as above. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++
Hi!
18-Янв-2007 11:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
Better than watcom? How much better and in which areas?
J In Open Watcom just the 32bit C(++) compiler and WD are pretty good. The rest
J is of mixed quality.
J With optimisation on MSVC CL.EXE beats OW WCC.EXE significantly both in speed
J and binary size (not counting the CRT part).
May you show examples? Starting from minimal void main(){}, then with
printf(Hello, world!\n), then something more complex? With OW 1.6:
type test1.c
void main () {}
wcl test1.c
Open Watcom C/C++16 Compile and Link Utility Version 1.6
wcc TEST1.C
Open Watcom C16 Optimizing Compiler Version 1.6
Code size: 7
wlink @__wcl__.lnk
creating a DOS executable
type test2.c
#include stdio.h
void main () { printf (Hello, world!\n); }
wcl test2.c
Open Watcom C/C++16 Compile and Link Utility Version 1.6
wcc TEST2.C
Open Watcom C16 Optimizing Compiler Version 1.6
Code size: 17
wlink @__wcl__.lnk
creating a DOS executable
dir *.exe
TEST1EXE 1 196
TEST2EXE 8 736
Issue here is only in fat RTL.
J One reason for this might be: although the OW 16-bit compiler WCC has
J switches
J to optimize for 386/486/Pentium/PPro it doesn't seem to use the 32-bit
J registers if one of these switches is set.
?! Using 32-bit instructions in 16-bit programs may be useful, but this
is another story. How this relates to difference in generating 16-bit code?
J The one 32bit opcode I was able to
J find is the PUSH dword ptr [x] to push an (unsigned) long parameter for a
J function call.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++
Hi!
19-Янв-2007 15:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
May you show examples? Starting from minimal void main(){}, then with
printf(Hello, world!\n), then something more complex? With OW 1.6:
J a dummy main and a hello world main are utterly irrelevant if you want to
J compare size/speed optimisations (leaving CRT aside).
For applications, RTL usually is inherent part, so comparing RTLs
(which also compiled by compilers) together _is_ relevant. On the other
side, given examples make bias point - you may now enough to bias executable
size and compare resulting sizes, not instructions versus instructions.
J A complex sample is Jemm386 C part (it can be compiled with both MSVC and
J OW). It is still small model, but uses some far pointers, and OW is very dump
J with far pointers.
How much?
?! Using 32-bit instructions in 16-bit programs may be useful, but this
is another story. How this relates to difference in generating 16-bit code?
J if this is another story, then why does a program benefit both in size and
J speed if you add the -G3 switch (use 80386 instructions) in MSVC 1.5?
I mean, that generating 32-bit instructions for 16-bit programs is
another story. Of course, its pity, that OW/16 doesn't reuses 32-bit
instructions (interesting, OW/32 may generate 16-bit code?), but what about
comparing 16-bit code generators?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++
Hi! 17-Янв-2007 17:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: J I own MS VC 1.5 which runs in DOS with the Phar Lab TNT DOS Extender. J IMO it is the best 16-bit C(++) optimising compiler :) Better than watcom? How much better and in which areas? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Unknown Config.sys entry
Hi!
17-Янв-2007 01:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
hc 1) The very first entry is:
hc !SWITCHES=/E
hc I don't see this entry listed in the FreeDos help file as a Config.sys
hc command - what is it / what does it do ??
Switches passes some options to kernel. FreeDOS supports next syntax:
SWITCHES [=] { /K | /N | /F | /E[[:]nnn] }
/k forces conventional (XT-83) keyboard (technically: CON driver uses
INT16/0x instead INT16/1x functions).
/e used to move EBDA structure from memory top into kernel image; without
this, you can't get contiguous 736k of conventional memory, when assign
RAM (with help of EMM386) to A000-B7FF area.
/f skips 2-second delay and hint line Press F8 to trace or F5 to skip ...
during startup.
/n prevents usage of F5 or F8 keys to bypass startup commands.
hc 2) Another item: I alter the colormenu entry to
hc colormenu=15,9
hc and now the menu keeps blinking until you select an item
So what is question? This is definition, how background attributes
works: unless some code change behavior of blink to bright, colors 0..7 + 8
give blinking color.
hc In the Autoexect.bat file there is the following entry
hc @if %ramd%== goto (label)
hc how is @if different from if ???
@ before any command omits its echoing to screen. This is very often
used with echo off at start of most batch files.
hc Does @if equate to If not ???
No.
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[Freedos-user] announce: OpenWatcom 1.6 distributive in .zip archives
Hi! Recently was released OpenWatcom 1.6 (http://www.openwatcom.org/). Its distributive is available as monolithic installers for Windows and OS/2. Because there is no official distribution of OpenWatcom in .zip archives since version 1.4, I prepare OW 1.6 distributive in .zip-s at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.6/. Here you find archives with same layout, as OW 1.3 distributive, readme.txt (short introduction), license.txt and descript.ion (archives description file, compatible with FAR Manage, NDOS and 4DOS). How this package may be useful? Let suggest, we need DOS host+DOS target. What relate to DOS: 1. descriptions+license, 3 files/~30 kb DESCRIPT.ION LICENSE.TXT README.TXT 2. base package, 6 archives/~2.7 Mb CM_CORE_ALL.ZIP CM_CORE_DOS.ZIP CM_CORE_DOSWIN.ZIP CORE_ALL.ZIPCORE_DOSWIN.ZIP C_DOSWIN.ZIP 3. C++ addition to base package, 1 archive/~1.4 Mb CPP_DOSWIN.ZIP 4. DOS extenders (may be downloaded all, one or nothing), 4 archives/~700 kb EXT_CAUSEWAY.ZIP EXT_DOS32A.ZIP EXT_DOS4GW.ZIP EXT_PMODEW.ZIP 5. debugger, 5 archives/~990 kb CM_DBG_ALL.ZIP CM_DBG_DOS.ZIP CM_DBG_DOSWIN.ZIP CM_DBG_DOSOS2.ZIP CM_DBG_MISC1.ZIP 6. C RTL (standard headers and libraries), 5 archives/~1.7 Mb CM_CLIB_HDR.ZIP CM_CLIB_A16.ZIP CLIB_A16.ZIP CM_CLIB_D16.ZIP CLIB_D16.ZIP 7. C RTL for DOS extenders, 2 archives/~630 kb CM_CLIB_D32.ZIP CM_CLIB_A32.ZIP 8. C++ RTL, 3 archives/~1.1 Mb PLIB_HDR.ZIP CM_PLIB_A16.ZIP PLIB_A16.ZIP 9. C++ RTL for DOS extenders, 2 archives/~700 kb CM_PLIB_A32.ZIP PLIB_A32.ZIP 10. help files, 2 archives/~2.1 Мb CM_HLP_DOS.ZIP HLP_DOS.ZIP 11. IDE, help and samples for IDE, 3 archives/~630 kb CM_IDE_ALL.ZIP CM_IDE_DOS.ZIP IDE_SAMPLES.ZIP 12. examples and RTL sources, 5 archives/~1.1 Mb CM_SAMPLES.ZIP CLIB_SAMPLES.ZIP PLIB_SAMPLES.ZIP MISC_SRC.ZIP CLIB.7Z Total - 41 files, 14 Mb. There minimal set (only C, no C++ / help / samples / debugger) - [2]+[6] (11 files, ~4.4 Mb). All other may be combined. Now compare this with original monolithic installer size (62 Mb). - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] virtual drive
Hi! 12-Дек-2006 03:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dima) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: d How to create writeable virtual drive? not ram. Subst allows assign to any drive letter for path on any real drive. d I need the real virtual drive Real or virtual? Real disk not fits you, ramdrive not fits you. What really you need? May be, you need disk container like Stacker/Jam or PGPDisk? d = 512Mb with all attributes of a disk - boot d sect, FAT copies. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] conventional memory
Hi! 13-Дек-2006 00:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: R I have a custom program that loads into conventional R memory. R But in need more than the standard 640kb. R I have 128Mb extended memory. R How can I increase the conventional memory as much as R possible? Conventional memory is a contiguous memory block _inside first megabyte_, starting from zero address. If you map memory over graphics memory area at segment A000 and mono video text at segment B000 (of course, in this case you may use only color text modes), you may increase conventional memory from 640k to 640k+64k+32k=736k. To use all other memory, your application should use XMS/EMS, or should be compiled with/for DOS extenders (like DOS4GW or DOS32a). - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] virtual drive
Hi! 13-Дек-2006 04:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dima) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Real or virtual? Real disk not fits you, ramdrive not fits you. What really you need? May be, you need disk container like Stacker/Jam or PGPDisk? d I mean - idea with subst is not acceptable. I need to mount 500-700Mb. disk d from image. The disk should be writeable. Tell me how to create such image, d how to mount such image. Well, there is Stacker and Jam, which create compressed disk images. There was utility to create crypted disk images in Norton Utility. There is PGPdisk (and other similar, like BestCrypt), but I don't know, if there DOS version for these utilities. Also, there is present something related to disk images in SHSUCD package. But I have no experience with them, so try yourself. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] virtual drive
Hi! 11-Дек-2006 06:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dima) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: d How to create writeable virtual drive? not ram. Subst allows assign to any drive letter for path on any real drive. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Mice and drivers
Hi! 30-Ноя-2006 15:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Spitzer) wrote to FreeDOS freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: CS I need recommendations for mice preferabily trackball or wheel which I CS can use in DOS/FreeDOS Win311/Gem and Ill take care of the linux stuff. Any, which may be connected to COM or PS/2 port. If you want specific model name and producer, then you send requrest into inapproprite group - here discussed DOS, not mice. CS My current one is a CPQ750TP Compaq cross branded and worked until Brian CS sat upon it. He is a 25 lb cat. Wow. :) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 28-Ноя-2006 08:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Mariottini) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: RM IIRC when command.com parses the command line the first non-filename RM character is used to separate the command name from the command line RM (the space character is one of them), Unfortunately, this is not complete true. For example, compare echo., echo.exe and mycmd.exe commands. RM so the character = after PATH will RM break the command from the command line and will be put on the command RM line. The PATH command ignores an = at the start of the path list so you RM get the PATH=something syntax working. Other characters get the same RM result (for example PATH,something) and other are put in front of the RM path list (like PATH;something). On the other side, I know programs, which use = as valid character in its command line. So, if add support for var=val, then this breaks programs, which expect = as first character in command line. Really first character - if you add space before = (prog =...), then this adds space also into command line (in PSP). RM Supporting the generic VAR=VALUE assignment (meaning SET VAR=VALUE) RM could break old programs that use the = character for special meaning on RM the command line (such as old linkers and librarian utilities). Yes. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 26-Ноя-2006 04:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lester) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: L Ok, and now, which syntax is correct: L PATH %DOSDIR%\BIN L or L PATH=%DOSDIR%\BIN Both. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 27-Ноя-2006 11:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BC both are not correct, as the second one would need to be prefixed with BC SET to work correctly. L PATH %DOSDIR%\BIN L PATH=%DOSDIR%\BIN Both. Both are accepted by MS-command.com and FreeCom. Which other criteria for correct here you offer? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 27-Ноя-2006 11:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BC Well I don't understand why PATH=blah blah would be accepted but BC HELLO=blah blah wouldn't work. L PATH %DOSDIR%\BIN L PATH=%DOSDIR%\BIN Both are accepted by MS-command.com and FreeCom. Which other criteria for correct here you offer? Who says about HELLO=? We discuss PATH and PATH=. PS: As I understand, this is another bug/feature, like cd.. and echo.. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 27-Ноя-2006 12:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Who says about HELLO=? We discuss PATH and PATH=. PS: As I understand, this is another bug/feature, like cd.. and echo.. BC So who is for making HELLO=blah equal to SET HELLO=blah in FreeCOM? Where you see this? Lester was just ask if this possible or not. No one was discuss adding support for this (except that Eric suggest, that this feature doesn't supported by current shells). BC And according to POSIX, %PWD% is supposed to be set to the current BC directory by CD. Is anyone against adding these features? If this will be internal function/variable, which will not eat space in environment - why not? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 27-Ноя-2006 13:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BC So who is for making HELLO=blah equal to SET HELLO=blah in FreeCOM? Where you see this? Lester was just ask if this possible or not. No one was discuss adding support for this (except that Eric suggest, that this feature doesn't supported by current shells). BC I'm asking now. I never said that anyone else suggested it. I see no reasons for this (this not adds required/used functionality), especially this will eat extra memory for additional parsing code and may introduce incompatibilities into existing parser (which anyway is too complex). BC And according to POSIX, %PWD% is supposed to be set to the current If this will be internal function/variable, which will not eat space in environment - why not? BC POSIX says that it should be an environment variable accessable to all BC programs. After all, DOS isn't POSIX system and DOS programs don't use/need extra garbage in environment. This may be useful _only_ to ease porting sources of unix programs to DOS, but there exist more elegant solutions (ie., for these programs should be used library/startup, which will modify environment statically or on the fly as need - similarly, as many compilers include wildargs.obj, which emulate wild characters expansion by shell). BC But AFAIK, things like CDPATH are allowed to be internal BC variables. Of course. PS: Blair, when you answer about using string instructions in callint()? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] LBACACHE, QCACHE STACKS=9,512
Hi! 27-Ноя-2006 09:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lester) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: How about licensing? Is qxumbpci GPL/open source? If it is closed source it may give you better performance, but you risk that the program may be abandoned and no-one to be able to take it back. L I assume this message is directed to FreeDos official SourceForge project L managers, Q-drivers are positioned by their author as opposition for FreeDOS project and its contributors, because authors thinks we all are NAZI. L but I will put in my two cents what I think about all this as L just an end user. L I don't even know what GPL stands for and I wouldn't care less. All what You should, or you lost. For example, FreeDOS was developed from scratch, because there was no initial base, which was may be used (MS-DOS is commercial, proprietary, closed source solution). _If_ MS-DOS was GPLed, then we was may have FreeDOS twenty years earlier. L A driver getting abandoned is an inconvenience to be expected from any L free software. Of course. But open-sourced software may intercepted/forked/supported by other peoples, whereas for closed source software this is impossible. For example, OpenWatcom is hosted by SciTech, but most/all changes/evolutions, starting from version 1.0, was contributions... - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 27-Ноя-2006 14:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BC So who is for making HELLO=blah equal to SET HELLO=blah in FreeCOM? I see no reasons for this (this not adds required/used functionality), especially this will eat extra memory for additional parsing code and may BC 3 extra lines in the source code. Hardly eating extra memory. Ok, but I anyway see no reasons. PS: Blair, when you answer about using string instructions in callint()? BC It's fine the way it is. Ie., you think, readability for callint() is more important than size and I shouldn't worry? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Set Command
Hi! 25-Ноя-2006 10:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lester) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: L In my Fdauto.bat I've always had SET command everywhere. Someone has just L pointed out that I could probably skip SET in most (all?) of the lines. SET isn't required only for PROMPT and PATH. L I have even come across a notion that in ms-dos set was used to set L other environment variables/parameters but not the path. Wrong. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Video corruption with cutemouse 1.9.1 a1 in VGA mode
Hi! 30-Окт-2006 09:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AG On some modern graphics cards, we're experiencing video corruption in 4 AG bit VGA mode (640 x 480, 16 colors) under FreeDOS when running CuteMouse AG v1.9.1 alpha 1 (and HIMEM64 3.26). Does this happens in any circumstances or only under HIMEM? Is there loaded EMM386? What config.sys and autoexec.bat contains? AG The kind of video corruption depends on the video card: sometimes it's AG ghosting (nothing gets erased), sometimes it's just junk everywhere on AG the screen. Sometimes it just locks on a blank screen. Which hardware you use (CPU; mouse type, as reported by CTMOUSE, and its resources - COM/IRQ or PS2)? AG If we don't load the CuteMouse driver, there's no corruption (not AG loading HiMem isn't an option so we can't test that part). Why you can't test without HIMEM? What prevents you from this? AG If we do load the CuteMouse driver, but never initialize the mouse, AG there's no corruption. What mean never initialize mouse? Does this mean don't attach mouse to computer? AG If we use MS Mouse (mouse.com) the corruption doesn't happen. AG But as soon as we initialize the mouse in our application with CuteMouse AG on these certain video cards, _We_ initialize? In _our application_? Does this mean, that corruption happen in your application, but not outside it? Do you try the MOUSETST from CuteMouse package? AG the screen goes nuts. The video cards we AG know about: AG * nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4400 AG * ATI Radeon X1900 Crossfire AG * ATI X1900 (PCI-Express) AG * ATI X1800XL (PCI-Express) AG * ATI EAX1300PRO (PCI-Express) AG * ATI X850 Pro (PCI-Express) AG If anyone has any clue what might be going on, we'd love to hear your AG thoughts. Else, we thought we'd inform the community. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] installing freedos on secondary drive
Hi! 26-Окт-2006 21:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Daniel Fodor freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: te you can't boot FreeDOS from the second disk You can, also as any other OS. If BIOS supports disks swapping (ie. there is option in BIOS setup, which selects, which disk should be bootable). te AFAIK it can only boot from a primary partition on the first disk OS may be loaded from any partition (this depends exclusively from boot loader), but config.sys will be searched by (Free)DOS on C:, whereas C: assigned to first/active primary partition on first disk. I have two harddisks: an 80 gb harrdisk (drive c) with win xp and linux and a free 10 gb harddisk (drive d). I would like to install freedos onto this latter harddisk. I make the partition on drive d restart my computer and leave the cd in the cd-rom to be able to install freedos. As next it asks whether I want to format drive c. I do not want to format it because I have more partitions on it with important data. I want to have it on drive d but so far I could not install freedos onto the drive I wanted. Could anyone please help me? I would appreciate any kind of help. 1. Partition your second drive. 2. Format partition on your second drive. 3. Install FreeDOS into second drive. For this, run FreeDOS' SYS and specify drive letter of partition on second drive. 4. Reboot computer and in BIOS Setup select boot from second drive. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Boot sector not standard? [Solved]
Hi! 20-Окт-2006 06:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: M If the partition is at sector 0, Sectors numbered starting from 1, not 0. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C
Hi! 16-Сен-2006 08:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: M Many thanks for the suggestions but instead of doing stuff in my code... M couldn't we somehow add a delay to FreeCOM before it exits (when called with M /c) so everything gets flushed and it works for everyone? Trouble not in delay for flush, trouble that (old) FreeCOM was buggy. Current FreeCOM deals with /c option and redirection fine. M Under command.com M everything works as-is and it is a crime to patch my code instead of doing a M general solution... - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C
Hi! 18-Сен-2006 11:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: M I tried that exact version, when I type ver I get FreeCom version M 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]... and the issue still M happens... Current FreeCOM deals with /c option and redirection fine. Current - command.com, available from CVS (92787 bytes, FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]). I don't know, which edition was included into FreeDOS 1.0 distributive. Ok, then may you present test case? If you have source, which not works, give us this source (and all related files and build batch and make files), so we may try to reproduce your trouble. Of course, try to minimize test case (minimal source, minimal batch files to compile). - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C
Hi!
18-Сен-2006 15:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marton) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
M Absolutely, the function is simple... just to see if two directories that
M should have the same contents changed. Here it goes (hope it indents well):
M int checkdir(void) {
[...]
M system(dir c:\\data\\base1 c:\\data.dir);
This source is incomplete and contains bugs, which makes it
incompilable, but this is unimportant - now I may reproduce the bug even
without extra program:
command/c ver
FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00]
command/c dir test
TEST 0 19.09.06 2:55
command/c dir test
command/c dir test
TEST 525 19.09.06 2:56
command/c dir test test
command/c dir test
TEST 0 19.09.06 2:56
So, something really wrong, when cmd (dir above) have arguments and output
is redirected.
I will try to fix this later, when process patches, which accept Blair.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C
Hi!
16-Сен-2006 02:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
BC Hi. It almost sounds to me like the destination file isn't getting
BC flushed to the disk. I would recommend doing the recirection
BC internally in the C program, and then you have direct control of the
BC file. A simple close(1); open(blah, O_WRONLY); /* system() stuff
BC here: */ blah blah blah close(1); open(CON, O_WRONLY);
BC should do but there are also ways to 'save' the original stdout and
BC restore it later. Get him to contact me for details.
BUT, if I do it this way:
command /c dir /b c:\testdir d:\dirout.put
The file dirout.put has the directory output but CUT... it never
reaches the end of the output, it just cuts...
This is bug in FreeCOM. And this is reason, why in my patches for
FreeCOM I was tried to move command.com placement into bin/ subdirectory,
else (buggy) command.com (may) interfere with building process, but by some
unknown reason you reject this part of patches.
About manual redirecting: using open(CON) is wrong, because this
prevents using program with redirection. The more so, if program uses
stdio..h, this way is even more wrong. I think, better way is something
like:
int redirfd = open (d:\dirout.put, O_CREAT | O_TRUNC | O_RDWR,
S_IREAD | S_IWRITE);
if (redirfd != -1) { /* check for error */
/* if using standard streams from stdio.h: */
flushall (); /* flush all high level buffers */
/* now privately store own stdout... */
int oldstdout = dup (1);
/* ...and open redirection */
dup2 (redirfd, 1); close (redirfd);
...now do system(), spwan*() or exec*()...
dup2 (oldstdout, 1); close (oldstdout);
}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Need help ... calling COMMAND.COM from C
Hi! 16-Сен-2006 09:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BC I did say that there were ways to save/restore the original stdout... But you not explain this for man, to whom you answer. BC I know that open(CON) is technically wrong, but at the same time it BC works in most cases. But why at once not write code, which (should) work in _all_ (not most) cases? Especially, this is not complex. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] UPXed DISPLAY memory requirements
Hi! 9-Сен-2006 22:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamarэa) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AS My shame, but I am still not working in a new DISPLAY at the moment. AS Will keep it, though, for when I start with DISPLAY 0.14. No - this is because bug in UPX stub, which doubles requested memory size (for COM2EXE converted programs). Thus, 64k of requested memory for DISPLAY.EXE become 128k of requested memory after UPXing DISPLAY.EXE. And I don't hear that someone repost my analyze for UPX bug to UPX maintainers. Not need to wait for next release - as temporary solution, you may re-release current DISPLAY (with same version number or with increased number), but packed by another packer (for example, aPACK). More smart (and independent) solution (but UPX anyway should be fixed): reduce program image size, by removing explicit buffers initialization (replace 0 in .asm sources by ?), and increase minmem= field in .exe header (use -s option of COM2EXE). In this case, you may even omit exe-packing at all (because real code of DISPLAY is small - packing need, because currently DISPLAY executable contains initialization garbage). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] LBAcache crash with EMS enabled under VMware
Hi! 8-Сен-2006 10:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Riebisch) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: RR Please try Japheth's JEMM386: http://www.bttr-software.de/links/#drivers If this is edition, which given by Japhet once, then all important changes from there was already duplicated in Michael' EMM386. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] TC 2.01 IDE Slooow
Hi! 30-Авг-2006 17:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin Donnell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: CD Seems to be much faster when I run without drivers. CD Anyone know why or what causes this? What mean slow (how you measure? how much slow?)? What you mean by drivers? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
Hi! 28-Авг-2006 18:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AG Which would recomend we use to work on the widest array of systems... AG CuteMouse 1.9.1 or 2.0a4? We don't need any fancy support (we don't need AG scroll wheels, etc), we just need it to be robust... meaning, not to crash. AG Would you suggest one over the other? If you need wide array of systems and not need wheels support - 1.9.1 is your choice. 1.9.1 works with PS/2 mice on higher levels (through BIOS, not directly with hardware) and, thus, should be more portable and reliable. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse locking up; suggestings on things to try?
Hi! 24-Авг-2006 02:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Greenberg) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AG We're using cutemouse 2.0 alpha4 under FreeDOS 1.1.35W (Build 2035W), AG HIMEM64 3.11, This (3.11) may be reason. Update to latest edition: ftp://ftp.devoresoftware.com/downloads/emm386/emmx225.zip and try again. AG and FreeCOM 0.84-pre. We're using it on a large range of AG systems, and we're getting lots of lock ups (on maybe 10% of the AG systems). We don't mind if cutemouse fails and there's no mouse, but we AG do mind if it locks up up the system (which is what it's doing). AG Any ideas on what we might try to stop it from locking up? AG For example: AG 1. All of our systems are fairly modern, so there's no COM mouses (that AG we know of). There was changed (fixed) EMM386 so, that it now correctly preserves interrupt flag when calling INT15 - whereas CuteMouse 2.0 depends precisely on INT15 BIOS services. Before this change in EMM386, CuteMouse was locked (at least) in QEMU. This is why I recommend you firstly try latest EMM386 edition. AG So should we use /P? No, PS/2 searched first. AG 2. We don't understand /Y - if this is important, can someone explain it AG to us? Do you read ctmouse.txt (This is because the Mouse Systems protocol defines no detection sequence). Option /Y in the command line disables Mouse Systems protocol support and prevents driver installation if no mouse with Microsoft or Logitech protocol is found.? What precisely not understand by you there? Let me rephrase: mice with Mouse Systems protocols can't be detected, so driver always installs itself on first available COM port (with support of Mouse System protocol) if there are no PS/2 or serial mice with other protocols. To prevent driver installation when there are no mice at all, use /y option. AG 3. Could this be a memory issue, and /W would help? I doubt. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Is Freedos a good OS?
Hi! 22-Авг-2006 06:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Staffanson Brian J Civ 309 EMXG/QPE) wrote to 'freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net' freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: SBE it. Then I came up with this (crazy?) idea of integrating it into a SBE portable stereo that I have pulled apart, and making this stereo a MP3 SBE player. I know how I want to implement the motherboard to the stereo (I SBE think). My question to you all: is freedos a good OS to use in this SBE situation? Not worser, than other DOSes. SBE I want quick start-up and shut-down times, and I understand DOS SBE does. Yes. SBE Almost immediate. I plan on removing all unnecessary parts of the SBE laptop, which are the screen (obvious, as it is broken), and the mouse, and SBE keyboard(?). Do you sure, that without these components you notebook will boot at all? BTW, in BIOS setup in desktop computers there is Halt on: option, which allows you exclude keyboard errors (missing keyboard) from stopping boot. SBE Can freedos run without the keyboard? For controls, I am Sure. Just prepare a lot of scripts, which will automatically run from autoexec.bat. SBE As I am basically new to the world of DOS, how easy is it to adapt the SBE sound SBE card driver from Win98 to DOS? Impossible. :( Completely different OS architectures. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated 08/19/2006
Hi! 19-Авг-2006 21:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: sn h) Boot from first harddisk (0x80) sn I fell into this because of the timeout. The next two lines on the sn screen are: sn Booting from local disk... sn Virus!!! This may be message from BIOS (if there is turned on option Check BOOT Viruses, then it monitors writing to MBR). sn q) Skip CD-Rom boot (try next boot device) sn NO ROM BASIC sn SYSTEM HALTED This is not FreeDOS. sn Obviously this isn't an IBM PC. FWIW SBM's Quit to BIOS option sn gets this result too. Of course. This is original IBM BIOS architecture - when there are no bootable media, BIOS pass control to INT19, where in original BIOSes was reside built-in BASIC interpreter. But this BASIC very long ago not included into BIOSes, and message says about this. sn Editorial comment: snObviously, some of these results are not ideal. What you want from FreeDOS in given case? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Compatibility EMM386/HIMEM 2.25 New Release
Hi! 21-Авг-2006 18:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Tertling) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: You should also be prepared to send/sponsor this network card to I really would like to do but my boss would cut my head off if I would AT That's just another way to solve the problem :D AT SCNR ;) What is SCNR? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Results of testing fdbasecd.iso dated...
Hi! 21-Авг-2006 14:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: sn Editorial comment: snObviously, some of these results are not ideal. What you want from FreeDOS in given case? snWhat do *I* want? Nothing. I'm just testing the release CD and sn reporting the results. snI will ask this question: If FreeDOS is released as is, and users sn start seeing these msgs on their PCs, will they know that the problem sn is *not* caused by FreeDOS? So, you think, current menu tree is worse? I think, then you should try to draft own tree, which (you think) is better, and offer it for review for Blair. Sorry, I can't give further advices and help in this case, because all other depends from Blair. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Bad or non existant command interpreter
Hi! 21-Авг-2006 21:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Monahan) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: CM I've installed FreeDOS on the first 250MB partition of my hard drive, it CM works in dosemu, CM and I can run Free COM in Windows CM but when I try to boot to it from LILO it passes over to the kernel (I CM think) CM and tells me : CM Bad or non existant command interpreter CM enter full command path CM and all I can do is press the enter button to get it to say it CM again. Looks like there is kernel version, which wrongly assigns drive letters (ie. as I understand, should work something like entering a:\command.com), when there is no floppy drive present. Try to update to latest kernel.sys. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Incorrect DOS version even with Version=6.22
Hi! 17-Авг-2006 19:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hupp) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: JH KERNEL.SYS - 1.1.35 Build 2036, 2006-05-24 JH HIMEM/EMM386 bundled download version 2.08 Quickly update to latest EMM386 2.23! JH We are having trouble running a couple old networking EXE's under FreeDOS JH that run fine under MS-DOS 6.22. They generate Incorrect DOS version JH error messages, even if you use VERSION=6.22 (or 6.2 or 6.0 or 5.0) in JH CONFIG.SYS. In previous version, there was bug, that VERSION= was change wrong variables (os_major and os_minor instead os_setver_major and os_setver_minor). I was fix this bug (along with many other CONFIG.C issues) and this available in Lucho kernel version. AFAIK, Jeremy also fix this bug. I don't know, if Eric includes this fix into its 2036 release. If you give me link to where you get this kernel version (and its sources), I may check this. So, I recommend to try Eric's 2037 release. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Bad or Missing Command.com woes
Hi!
17-Авг-2006 11:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
jhu X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
jhu P.msoNormal { FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt;
jhu COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif, sans serif } LI.msoNormal {
jhu FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black;
jhu FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif, sans serif } BODY { FONT-WEIGHT: normal;
jhu FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 50px; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans
jhu Serif, sans serif } HR { WIDTH: 100%; COLOR: #00; HEIGHT: 1px }
jhu
jhu I have been having some problems with FreeDOS changing drive letters on me
Damn. Jusin, turn off HTML formatting in your Outlook! And disable
attaching image to your letters!
jhu unexpectedly so that it is unable to find it's own command.com
jhu I am ultimately trying to get a system which will dual boot FreeDOS and
jhu Windows XPe, so that I can boot into DOS to allow the windows system files
jhu to be updated automatically.
jhu Initially I downloaded an ODIN floppy disk image and used it to create a
jhu bootable CD in floppy disk emulation, using Nero. This booted
jhu successfully, and allowed me to partition and format the hard drive.
jhu However, when I then booted from the hard drive, although it listed the
jhu three partitions correctly during the boot, it complained that COMMAND.COM
jhu was missing. Having found a command.com for it to use it became apparent
jhu that the C: drive was in fact the 5Gb empty partition and not the small DOS
jhu partition which had COMMAND.COM on it.
DOS assigns C: to partition, from which it boots (or, if you boot
from diskette, which is primary active/bootable partition on first disk).
jhu Re-format the HD as before, reboot to HD and alll is well - it works!
jhu Until I remove the floppy drive and boot from the HD and then the drive
jhu letters change again and it can't find command.com.
And where is your disk layout (which partitions there present)? Why you
not show us, which letter were assigned and which you expect to assign?
jhu FreeDOS kernel version 0.0.35
jhu Kernel.sys has size 44,056 dated 09-16-05 12:26a
This is old version.
jhu Hard disk has three partitions
jhu C: - FAT16 20Mb primary active formatted /s
jhu D: - FAT32 3Gb primary formatted /s
jhu E: - FAT32 5Gb primary formatted without /s
What shows FDISK - how your disk is partitioned?
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16
Hi! 14-Авг-2006 10:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: GSc # Since FreeCOM 0.84pre2 has become quite stable recently, it will be GSc # included, and 0.82 pl3 MIGHT find its way in as a backup in case any GSc # users would prefer legacy (but possibly better-working) versions. GSc Has the path-searching bug that I mentioned earlier gotten resolved? Yes. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 Just around the corner.
Hi! 11-Авг-2006 08:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: JH I hope it's not too premature to say 'w00t!' :-) w00t? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Hi! 5-Авг-2006 09:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: J Also, your patch doesn't solves issue (which you try to explain) in case, if extended key pressed together with Ctrl-Alt. Ie., even if problem exist, then you fix for it incomplete. J Yes, since it is a bug in *qemu*, What it?! You again not answer, what wrong with qemu and how qemu will confused if port 60h is read unnecessarily and send the next byte too fast. J not Emm386. Emm386 can do its best to work J around this bug, but not fix it. 386swat specific? Or this is more generic and applicable for other debuggers? If first, then, I suggest, this code shouldn't be present in production code (release) - not in executable (see how Michael excludes CheckBlockIntegrity or even not in source. J Yes, indeed, 16 - 32 bytes of extended memory are wasted. :( :) Now you object against optimization as Michael. :( But there is another issues: (undocumented) backdoors may have unexpected worse effects. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Hi! 3-Авг-2006 17:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: the final FD 1.0 should probably wait for upcoming Emm386 v2.22 to be released :) . MD Barring the fileset I requested, or other testable indication that your MD problem occurs with anyone else, I should not think that would be a MD problem. If you again miss my report, try to use G suffix (as far, as I see, it supported through GetValue() by EMM=, MIN=, FRAME=, /P, MAX=, I= and X= in EMM386 and /NUMHANDLES, /MAX=, /HMAMIN= and /INT15= in HIMEM). MD In other words, no need to wait for EMM386 3.0 - codenamed The MD Arkady Factor. I think, build subsystem _should_ be _added_ before final EMM386 version will be released - else, because no more permanent, than temporary, EMM386 may never get build subsystem, which allows to 3rdp party developers to properly check their patches before submitting. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Hi! 4-Авг-2006 07:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: I think, build subsystem _should_ be _added_ before final EMM386 version will be released - else, because no more permanent, than temporary, EMM386 may never get build subsystem, which allows to 3rdp party developers to properly check their patches before submitting. BC I don't think it's too hard for a developer to add his makefile BC himself. Yes, he may. But, for example, with different option set resulting executable may work differently (if work at all). The more so, I don't know, how Michael packs executables, so I can't reproduce _identical_ binary. The more so, currently EMM386 sources are _not_ compilable by TC/BC at all - because warnings and because different case names (see my patch, which fixes this). I suggest, with TCPP same trouble, so, probably, Michael uses some subtle trick to workaround this in his makefiles. BC Lots of the FreeDOS source packages come without makefiles BC or batch files. This is another story. And, of course, this is very bad. :( PS: BTW, do you remember, that FreeCOM also isn't compilable by TC/BC (no or different prototypes; unsupported comments style; using non-defined variable fddebug; extra warnings like assignment const pointer to non-const; missing #include stdarg.h; using #pragma -a instead #pragma option -a and using #pragma option at all; using explicit _seg; etc)? I still wait, when you apply my fixes for this. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Hi! 4-Авг-2006 10:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Since the error is evident in my eyes, I will not spent any more time to proove this. But indeed there is no need to wait, and for those who might run into the problem as I did, you can download a fixed Emm386 at MD I asked you for an exact duplicate of a file which demonstrated the problem MD on your machine so I could duplicate the problem. This is trivial to MD provide and no effort for you. In Japhet' source, I see _at least_ one important change: you eliminate retf 2, but forgot ret 2 in NEW15 (where you explicitly STI before exit). This not need any demonstrations. But I agreed, that there not enough explanations what changed. For example, I see, that eliminated call to INT 67/3F - but no commented why. Also, I not see explanation, if move reading keyboard port after checking Ctrl/Alt status is optimization or have some additional impact. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Рш! 4-Авг-2006 18:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: But I agreed, that there not enough explanations what changed. For example, I see, that eliminated call to INT 67/3F - but no commented why. Also, I not see explanation, if move reading keyboard port after checking Ctrl/Alt status is optimization or have some additional impact. J Sorry, I totally forgot these things. The keyboard port reading modification J is a qemu-related optimization, since reading the keyboard port J unnecessarily should be avoided there I agreed, that unnecessary reading IO ports should be minimized as much, as possible. But is this only optimization or have some other issues? J (apparently gives problems with extended keys). Which ones? J And the New15 modification does at least not hurt, I thought J it was just forgotten by Mr. Devore. I think, not not hurt - this must have modification. Because original code lost all previous flags and enables interrupts on exit (which may be undesirable by caller). J The int 67h/3fh deletion was something I J didn't intend to make public, But you do. :) J I deactivated it because I don't like this J feature. Why? J Yes, I played a bit with the source and didn't use the original v2.21 one J when J implementing the bugfix, but for the 2-3 users which might be interested in J the binary ... ? PS: There are more changes, which I not mention, and which are not commented. For example, what does DebugBreak? (Letters swat suggest, that this relates to 386SWAT debugger?) Then, you change map from 1.75M to 1.5M - by which reasons? I suggest, this may have bad effect, because Michael found (though, as always, not comment) some issues, which relate to size of preallocated memory. Also, you add some deals with client stack - no comments what wrong with original code. You replace some code by clts - is it code optimization (reduction) or something more? - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Hi! 4-Авг-2006 21:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japheth) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: J (apparently gives problems with extended keys). Which ones? J As you possibly know, by reading port 60h you send the keyboard controller an J interrupt acknowledged signal, so it can send the next byte. On real J hardware this takes some time (some microseconds at least), but qemu is J unable J to emulate this slight delay. You mean does not emulates delay (not unable)? J So everytime the keyboard controller has to J send J more than 1 byte (as it is the case with the extended keys for example), qemu J will get confused if port 60h is read unnecessarily and send the next byte J too J fast. ? _How_ it confused? Also, your patch doesn't solves issue (which you try to explain) in case, if extended key pressed together with Ctrl-Alt. Ie., even if problem exist, then you fix for it incomplete. I think, not not hurt - this must have modification. Because original code lost all previous flags and enables interrupts on exit (which may be undesirable by caller). J Yes, aggreed, but most likely you will not find a real-life application where J this is indeed a problem. :) As I already say in some previous post: low probability for bug makes it less critical, but not makes it not-bug. PS: There are more changes, which I not mention, and which are not commented. For example, J You promised not to mention them, so why do you nevertheless? Promised?! Where I promise such thing?! what does DebugBreak? (Letters swat suggest, that this relates to 386SWAT debugger?) J yes I wanted to call 386swat on exceptions - if it was loaded 386swat specific? Or this is more generic and applicable for other debuggers? If first, then, I suggest, this code shouldn't be present in production code (release) - not in executable (see how Michael excludes CheckBlockIntegrity or even not in source. Then, you change map from 1.75M to 1.5M - by which reasons? I suggest, this may have bad effect, because Michael found (though, as always, not comment) some issues, which relate to size of preallocated memory. J IMO this is a safe optimization, Ie., this is only optimization, not fix for something? J at least since recently because the address J context is switched now to the host for the VCPI memory functions - this is J part of the main issue. I remain this question up to Michael, because I myself not understand anything there, even with your comment. Also, you add some deals with client stack - no comments what wrong with original code. J But this is the main issue. Please read my explanation in Bugzilla. Now I read bugzilla entry. But only because Eric sends URL for this... You replace some code by clts - is it code optimization (reduction) or something more? J Just an optimization. Then Michael may object against this. :( At least, in FreeDOS pre-release state. :) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updated 1.0 Testing CD
Hi! 2-Авг-2006 23:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Evans) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: CE Hmm, can you guys add some better LFN support? No. Especially, all solutions have own +, but also own -. CE I disagree with the Microsoft kludge. M Unfortunately, this disagree doesn't counted... :( CE Maybe store them into descript.ion files or invent a new FS for freedos, CE call it say, FAT64 that has it designed in proper like. :) No one currently will invent new file system for DOS. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] web site
Hi! 24-Июл-2006 09:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: JH If you would like a peek at the new design, it's at: JH http://www.freedos.org/index2.php?css=http://hallx049.oit.umn.edu/temp/fd/005.css If you wish feedback about design, I have ones. Browsed in Opera 9 @ 800x600. 1. At bottom, FreeDOS webring pane is wider, than middle column, in which it placed, whereas in RingSurf pane lines are wrapped: | white | Site news archive| white | | empty || empty | | space | FreeDOS WebRing| space | | | [ ... Random | Prev | Next ] || ... | || | | | This DOS Net Ring owned by Jim | | | | Hall | | | | [ Previou... | Skip Previous | | | | | Previous | Next ] | | Easiest, what you may do, is move these panes below 3-column table. 2. I think, 3-column mode is bad idea: all columns are equal width, but side columns are much shorter, thus, after they squezze middle coulmn, this middle column now up to thrice times higher and enclosed by very big white (read: very contrast view) unused space. The more so, this makes not enough space for final panes (WebRing and RingSurf). I think, at least right column might be eliminated, by moving its announcement contents at top of page, over menus and news. Also, left column with menu may be reduced in width, but Search pane should be moved out from columns (to top or bottom) to make more space for input field. BTW, I myself prefer to remove column modes at all: menus may be implemented as rows at top of page. For example: Home: [Report bugs] [About] [Links] [Mailing Lists] [News] [Software] [Web Images] [Webmasters] Developers: [Developers Wiki] [FreeDOS 1.0 To-do] [Kernel/FreeCOM] [SF project info] [FreeDOS projects] [FreeDOS-32 project] or: HomeDevelopersDocumentation [Report bugs] [Developers Wiki] ... [About] [FreeDOS 1.0 To-do] [Links] [Kernel/FreeCOM] [Mailing Lists] [SF project info] [News] [FreeDOS projects] [Software] [FreeDOS-32 project] [Web Images] [Webmasters] BTW, I now in process of preparing my own homepage. :) JH It has a modern appearance: clean, simple. Me liked, except layout and pallete for side columns. PS: I right now compare with original design (OD)... Well, OD design somewhat better: - marble background for Home and trademark. - menu headers (Home/Developers/Documentation) bold and highlighting. - bold for Latest news. PPS: Over black line at top of fish, there seen white pixels. :) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] web site
Рш! 24-Июл-2006 09:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: JH If you would like a peek at the new design, it's at: JH http://www.freedos.org/index2.php?css=http://hallx049.oit.umn.edu/temp/fd/005.css If you wish feedback about design, I have ones. Browsed in Opera 9 @ 800x600. 1. At bottom, FreeDOS webring pane is wider, than middle column, in which it placed, whereas in RingSurf pane lines are wrapped: | white | Site news archive| white | | empty || empty | | space | FreeDOS WebRing| space | | | [ ... Random | Prev | Next ] || ... | || | | | This DOS Net Ring owned by Jim | | | | Hall | | | | [ Previou... | Skip Previous | | | | | Previous | Next ] | | Easiest, what you may do, is move these panes below 3-column table. 2. I think, 3-column mode is bad idea: all columns are equal width, but side columns are much shorter, thus, after they squeeze middle column, this middle column now up to thrice times higher and enclosed by very big white (read: very contrast view) unused space. The more so, this makes not enough space for final panes (WebRing and RingSurf). I think, at least right column might be eliminated, by moving its announcement contents at top of page, over menus and news. Also, left column with menu may be reduced in width, but Search pane should be moved out from columns (to top or bottom) to make more space for input field. BTW, I myself prefer to remove column modes at all: menus may be implemented as rows at top of page. For example: Home: [Report bugs] [About] [Links] [Mailing Lists] [News] [Software] [Web Images] [Webmasters] Developers: [Developers Wiki] [FreeDOS 1.0 To-do] [Kernel/FreeCOM] [SF project info] [FreeDOS projects] [FreeDOS-32 project] or: HomeDevelopersDocumentation [Report bugs] [Developers Wiki] ... [About] [FreeDOS 1.0 To-do] [Links] [Kernel/FreeCOM] [Mailing Lists] [SF project info] [News] [FreeDOS projects] [Software] [FreeDOS-32 project] [Web Images] [Webmasters] BTW, I now in process of preparing my own homepage. :) JH It has a modern appearance: clean, simple. Me liked, except layout and pallete for side columns. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] announce: OpenWatcom 1.5 distributive in .zip archives
Hi! Arkady V.Belousov 09.06.06 2:36 wrote: Because there is no official distribution of OpenWatcom in .zip archives since version 1.4, I prepare OW 1.5 distributive in .zip-s at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.5/. Here you find archives with same layout, as OW 1.3 distributive, readme.txt (short introduction), license.txt and descript.ion (archives description file, compatible with FAR Manage, NDOS and 4DOS). Also, now at given URL available CLIB.7Z archive. This archive contains C RTL (runtime library) sources - this is copy of /bld/clib sub-tree from OW sources (ftp://ftp.openwatcom.org/watcom/source/open_watcom_1.5.0-src.zip), but without makefiles. Purpose of this archive is to ease access to RTL sources - (1) browsing RTL sources sometime may shed light on some obscure questions, related to RTL functions usage and behavior, (2) they are good source for educating different techniques of writing in C, and (3) having RTL sources, you may prepare stripped-down versions of functions from there (unfortunately, bigger functionality of OW RTL in compare with Borland's compilers makes negative impact on programs size). PS: Archive packed by 7-Zip - freeware, GPLed archiver. With it, resulting archive size is 5 times less, than in .ZIP, and 20% less, than in .RAR. PPS: I think, compiler archives from above-mentioned URL may be included into FreeDOS distributions. Of course, there not need to include all 80 archives (57 Mb) - for FreeDOS is sufficient to include archives, which are hosted and target to DOS (41 files, 14 Mb - DOS/16 and DOS/32 programming in C and C++, with helps, sources, debugger and DOS extenders): DESCRIPT.ION LICENSE.TXT README.TXT CM_CORE_ALL.ZIP CM_CORE_DOS.ZIP CM_CORE_DOSWIN.ZIP CORE_ALL.ZIPCORE_DOSWIN.ZIP C_DOSWIN.ZIP CPP_DOSWIN.ZIP EXT_CAUSEWAY.ZIP EXT_DOS32A.ZIP EXT_DOS4GW.ZIP EXT_PMODEW.ZIP CM_DBG_ALL.ZIP CM_DBG_DOS.ZIP CM_DBG_DOSWIN.ZIP CM_DBG_DOSOS2.ZIP CM_DBG_MISC1.ZIP CM_CLIB_HDR.ZIP CM_CLIB_A16.ZIP CLIB_A16.ZIP CM_CLIB_A32.ZIP CM_CLIB_D16.ZIP CLIB_D16.ZIP CM_CLIB_D32.ZIP PLIB_HDR.ZIP CM_PLIB_A16.ZIP PLIB_A16.ZIP CM_PLIB_A32.ZIP PLIB_A32.ZIP CM_HLP_DOS.ZIP HLP_DOS.ZIP CM_IDE_ALL.ZIP CM_IDE_DOS.ZIP IDE_SAMPLES.ZIP CM_SAMPLES.ZIP CLIB_SAMPLES.ZIP PLIB_SAMPLES.ZIP MISC_SRC.ZIP CLIB.7Z - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 Installer - User-specified partition?
Hi! 15-Июл-2006 18:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Will the installer version that will be in FreeDOS 1.0 allow installing FreeDOS in a user-specified partition? The Beta9SR1 installer wrote BC DOS can only boot from C:, DOS can boot from anything, but it assigns C letter to active primary partition on first disk (and continues to read its files from there). Whereas active flag may be switched between partition by boot manager (or even manually through plain FDISK). BC so if you don't want it to see a FAT32 BC drive, the only way to ignore it is to use the FAT16-only kernel BC flavour. I think, this is bad way: if user wish to install system to some partition (which at given time isn't active and, thus, have not C label), then installer should affect only requested partition (which is C by default). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [OT] BIOS mounts USB stick as A:
Hi! 11-Июл-2006 10:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Xaver) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: FX Mh...the USB HD is primary...any chance to configurate FreeDOS, so that FX the USB drive IS NOT drive C:, D: instead? After boot, you may use utilities (like sswap.exe from Stacker), which swaps drive letters. Before boot, DOS may be booted only from first harddisk, so there should be support in BIOS to select, which drive is bootable (and, thus, its numbering comes first and, thus, active primary partition on it receives letter C:). - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Russian by UTF-8 in FreeDOS?
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 23:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamarэa) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: AS Here I am sending to you the links to the binary utilities, (both exec AS and source) with the latest versions. Both have accompaining AS information files. [...] Thank you. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Hi! 10-Июл-2006 21:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerry Hickman) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: GH Yes, but is it not the case that the startup files are different Startup files are same. GH Can you clarify what you mean here? How do you define same? Identical or newer versions. GH Are you claiming they're identical or not? GH If not, then they're not the GH same! Newer does not mean Same... This is _one program_! Or you wish to say, that FreeDOS 2035 isn't FreeDOS, because kernel.sys binary-non-identical to FreeDOS 2034? DOS 6.22 is end of 1994 (1994/08/19), Win 3.11 is middle of 1994 (1994/05/23). GH I asked regarding WfW 3.11, not Win 3.11 I just shorten name. Of course, this is WfW (aka W4WG). GH deal was the IFS, Net and file I/O changes. I don't think of WfW as a GH DOS shell because big chunks of it bypass DOS. First, not DOS, but BIOS. Second, not because this is inherent design, but because this is possible on standard configurations (with compliant IDE interfaces). GH To me, a DOS shell would GH be something that talks to the hardware via DOS, DOS doesn't talks to hardware, DOS talks with BIOS. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS, Borland's current status and Borland's DOS software
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 23:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wesley Parish) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: WP What I want to ask is, has anyone approached Borland about the possibility WP of WP releasing their DOS compiler and database products as Open Source? I've I suggest, that releasing Borland _compilers_ as _open source_ (beside releasing as unpaid software) is useless - these compilers are (1) much outdated (in sense of modern language standards compatibility and supported target platforms) and contains (2) many bugs, whereas there are (3) free(dom) alternative (OpenWatcom, for example), which newer, less buggy, more standards compliant and more code-efficient. So, even if Borland releases their compilers as open source, this gives nothing useful. And even if they release compilers as free(dom) open-source, I doubt that someone (experienced) will spend they efforts to evolve them to something more modern. Database (Paradox) is another story. WP considered doing it myself, but I don't know just who I should contact. Me too. :) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS, Borland's current status and Borland's DOS software
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 18:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamarэa) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: So, even if Borland releases their compilers as open source, this gives nothing useful. And even if they release compilers as free(dom) open-source, I doubt that someone (experienced) will spend they efforts to evolve them to something more modern. AS Well, I disagree with you for the case of TurboPascal: at least there AS would be ONE open source 16-bit Pascal compiler. Issue is, that TP is a Pascal dialect, nobody (including standards) compatible and nowhere standardized. This (missing standards and compatibility with standards) is especially important, because TP is highly tied to DOS (and slightly to 16-bit Windows) platform and, thus, non-portable to newer platforms. I think, this very highly decreases perspectives of TP (_if_ it will be released as free open-source) to evolve. If you not expect evolving, then why you need sources? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Russian by UTF-8 in FreeDOS?
Hi! 5-Июл-2006 13:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: HP Then, you'll type MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=858 for french or 852 for polish HP or 808 for russian. 808? HP Please refer to the documentation available on DISPLAY, MODE, the codepage HP and keyboard layout packages for further details and if you still run into HP trouble, please contact me. BTW, Henrique, may you give me links to all latest editions of these utilities and links to documentation for them (which not included into packages)? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Russian by UTF-8 in FreeDOS?
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 13:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: HP As far as I know, cp866 is the most commonly used codepage for russian; Yes. HP cp808 was a slight IBM enhancement for russian users to have the Euro sign. I first time hear about it. :) HP which were never assisted. Among them, the official languages of all the 21 HP russian republics. In USSR was 15 republics. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS, Borland's current status and Borland's DOS software
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 21:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitor Santamarэa) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: _If_ you persuade Borland to release TP as free(dom) software, and _if_ you get maintain of it by you, and _if_ you will fix bugs in it - I will not AS I am not the only one DOS Pascal programmer in the world. But all/most other programmers are in same position, as you - they are not sufficiently experienced to evolve Borland compilers or they are not interested in this. :) :( object for this. I only doubt that even if Borland opens its old software, then someone (experienced) will maintain (evolve) this heap of problems. Else, if you not expect evolution (and you satisfied by existing compilers), AS Condition not met: there's no free 16-bit Pascal compiler What about TP itself? AS (at least as AS good as TP6/7, I doubt the download in the French page is legal, and I AS seem to recall that Borland no longer retains ownerwhip over TP), so I AS am not satisfied. Why not try to achieve firstly lesser targets - for example, ask Borland to give permissions to _use_ their BP6/7 compilers? I think, this will be enough. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Russian by UTF-8 in FreeDOS?
Hi! 6-Июл-2006 22:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BO As for converting, and then displaying the result in your favourite BO DOS character set, recode will do; search for rcode35b.zip in the v2gnu BO directory of your local DJGPP mirror. I was try it. I create test file, where in UTF-8 was present russian word test: D1 82 D0 B5 D1 81 D1 82 0D 0A Then I run recode (http://clio.rice.edu/djgpp/win2k/rcode35b.zip): recode.exe test outf Exiting due to signal SIGSEGV Page fault at eip=623a, error=0004 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Russian by UTF-8 in FreeDOS?
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 16:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: HP which were never assisted. Among them, the official languages of all the 21 HP russian republics. In USSR was 15 republics. HP thanks for the information on the USSR's 15 republics; however, according to HP information I found in the web, Russia comprehends nowadays 21 republics [...] HP new Russian Federation. Sorry, may mistake - when sayed about Russian republics, ex-USSR with its 15 republics (which all now independent countries) comes into my mind. :) Russian Federation clarifies this ambiguity. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Russian by UTF-8 in FreeDOS?
Hi! 9-Июл-2006 16:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: BTW, Henrique, may you give me links to all latest editions of these utilities and links to documentation for them (which not included into packages)? HP Links for DISPLAY, MODE and any other FreeDOS program are found at the HP FreeDOS website, as usual. :( Link to www.freedos.org is too generic. May you specify precise links to latest archives? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Hi! 6-Июл-2006 22:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerry Hickman) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: You mean you booted into MS-DOS 6.22 and then started WfW from within DOS 6.22? If so, I have to ask why?? GH No one has answered this part yet, especially why. There _was_ answer. See next line: That's actually how Windows 1.x-3.x worked ... Ie., Win3 was designed to work on runned MS-DOS. Not only MS-DOS 6.22 - previous versions too. GH Yes, if you means 3.0 I agree it's a shell around DOS. I don't agree in GH the case of WfW 3.11 No, all the same, except that 3.11 contains more drivers. Kernel, which works over DOS, remains same. technically, Win95/98 also worked a similar way, but Microsoft kind of changed things to make it not so obvious. GH I think to claim a 32bit prot-mode o/s with a PnP driver model is a DOS GH Shell is stretching it beyond belief. Application, which runs from DOS, and works with disks directly (say, FDISK), but continues to use DOS services for other tasks, remains DOS-application. GH Does every 32bit API call map back to a DOS 6.22 software interrupt? Not necessary. But many. And same true for other DOS-programs - beside DOS API, they use many things without accessing DOS. For example, screen IO through BIOS or even directly to video memory. For Windows 3.11 (WFW) you boot into DOS, then you run win to start Windows. GH Yes, but is it not the case that the startup files are different, plus Startup files are same. GH it's prot-mode, 1. Previous versions also may work in PM (so called Enhanced mode). 2. DOS-protected programs also works in PM. So what? GH and anyway is it not the case you are much better to run GH it with it's own startup files, HIMEM, EMM386 and IFSHLP, as opposed to GH the DOS 6.22 versions, especially for Networking? Wrong. MS-DOS 6.22 was much newer and it recommended to use himem/emm386 from it, instead native ones. Think of Windows as being just like Norton File Commander, or MS-DOS DOSSHELL. GH I can't. This is your trouble, not us. :) Windows just sat on top of DOS and managed the multitasking. GH As I said, a different o/s, the fact it was loaded from DOS 6.22 doesn't GH mean it's just a DOS shell. If I booted WinXP from grub it doesn't GH mean it's just a LINUX shell. But XP doesn't uses grub for its services and nowhere depends from its functionality. Whereas Win3 (and W9x) does depends on DOS services (though, W9x is less dependent, because it replaces most services on-the fly). Different issue is Novel Netware - this OS starts from DOS, but it completely not depends on DOS in other things, so this is really (independent) OS. GH Eric mentioned in the past that DOS does GH not have the sub-systems to allow multiple programs to read/write to the GH NIC at the same time and to be able to queue them. In my view, this GH makes WfW a different o/s. No. If I in my DOS-program implement asynchronous IO over serial lines, this not makes my program different OS. Windows 3.11 (WFW) stopped using DOS for file i/o, Not necessary - only when runned special driver, which bypasses DOS (and BIOS). GH Exactly, but how did they invent new I/O that didn't rely on DOS? Because DOS doesn't deals with real IO, DOS only handles logical structure of file system - whereas driver traps all IO requests and replaces BIOS functionality. GH Does Windows make calls direct to the hardware interrupts? Yes. But these _additional_ features do not untie Win3 dependency from DOS in all other parts. Windows wasn't so much an operating system as an extension that leveraged DOS to do most of the behind the scenes work. That's what Ray means with just a shell. GH OK, let's agree it's just a shell for a minute; why would anyone want to GH start it from within FreeDOS? Because those anyone expect replace non-free MS-DOS by free one. GH In my view, it's a total mismatch. FreeDOS GH doesn't pretend to be a prot-mode o/s Also as MS-DOS. GH and anyway it runs much better in real mode at the moment. It runs same. GH If it's going to a 32/64 bit prot-mode o/s ...then it stops be MS-DOS clone. GH then GH really it's time to forget the whole legacy thing and just create a GH next generation 64bit command line o/s that supports endless memory, GH multi-processors, multi-tasking, firmware BIOS, native SCSI, NTFS, NFS, GH KERBEROS and SMB signing. There are a lot of already existing such OSes. For example, Linux or Hurd. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Hi! 7-Июл-2006 10:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerry Hickman) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: GH What is the exact technical reason you can't start WfW 3.11 from GH FreeDOS? Is it the DPMI thing or something else? Some differences in kernel structure. And some unimplemented in FD API calls, which used by Win3 to callback DOS. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Hi! 8-Июл-2006 22:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerry Hickman) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: GH Yes, but is it not the case that the startup files are different, plus Startup files are same. GH Can you clarify what you mean here? How do you define same? Identical or newer versions. Wrong. MS-DOS 6.22 was much newer and it recommended to use himem/emm386 from it, instead native ones. GH Maybe this is where I'm getting mixed up. You appear to be saying DOS GH 6.22 is much newer than WfW 3.11, is this correct? DOS 6.22 is end of 1994 (1994/08/19), Win 3.11 is middle of 1994 (1994/05/23). GH I thought it was the other way round. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Hi! 4-Июл-2006 19:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerry Hickman) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: GH Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't WfW a different operating system GH with it's own bootsector and startup files? No. Win3 is an advanced _shell_, which works in protected mode on 386+ CPUs, and which runs over existing and already booted DOS. GH You've then got the HIMEM, EMM386 and IFSHLP to worry about. Win3 distributive contains these drivers, which versions newer, than in MS-DOS 3.3. But in MS-DOS 6, for example, these drivers are newer. GH Isn't it a bit like saying why can't I start OS/2 from within CP/M? This is different story - OS/2 is _really_ another, self-contained OS. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Complete Novice Needs Help
Hi! 2-Июл-2006 10:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Long) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: EL I would like to use Free Dos on a new lap top (Windows EL XL) for when the time comes that old computer may die. EL But I have absolutely no idea how to do this. Is a EL comprehensive set of guidance instructions available EL that would tell an computer-dumb old fellow like me EL how to do this? 1. You should have Windows (XP - not XL) installed on FAT partition or you should have separate FAT partition, if Windows installed on partitions with NTFS file system. DOS supports only FAT file system and not recognizes NTFS partition (unless _after_ DOS booting you run some driver, like NTFSDOS, which allows to read files from NTFS partition). EL Basically I would like to have the EL option to boot up either DOS or Windows XL when I EL start up the computer 2. After installing both OS (Windows/DOS, Windows/Linux, DOS/Linux, etc), you should install boot manager, which will allow you to select, which OS to boot. Windows XP contains own boot manager, so you may use it. 3. Or, you may run DOS programs directly inside Windows XP, which have DOS 5 emulator. 4. Or, you may install machine emulator (VMWare, Boch, QEMU, etc), which allows you to run multiple different OSes (including FreeDOS) inside other OSes (including Windows XP). EL This new lap top has a dual-processor in it. So is EL it possible to simultaneously run DOS with one of EL those processors and Windows with the other? No. _Multi-processor_ is _not_ the same as _multi-machine_. Multiple processors may be only reused by OS, which knows what is multiprocessing and how to use it - but all these resources remains owned only by this OS. Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updating CauseWay
Hi! 21-Июн-2006 13:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escorter) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: E I changed my compiler back to Open Watcom 1.1, because 1.2 Why not to newer versions? There already exists 1.5, and forthcoming 1.6 promises improved optimizer. E can't compile the Duke Nukem 3D source code. :) What the problem with compiling? If same problem (bug in OW?) exist in newer versions, you should report this bug, else it will not be fixed. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Updating CauseWay
Hi! 21-Июн-2006 19:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escorter) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: What the problem with compiling? If same problem (bug in OW?) exist in newer versions, you should report this bug, else it will not be fixed. E It's not a bug in OW. When Charlie Wiederhold prepared the E source code for the release, the latest OW compiler was 1.0. E So he ported the original Watcom 11-optimized code to this E compiler. Then the OW team made big changes in 1.2, so the E code can't be compiled with 1.2 without some modifications. E But I don't have time to make these modifications. E I can't remember the error messages correctly, but there are E a lots of Type of parameter 1 does not agree with previous E definition errors. Interesting. May you quote for us both declaration (prototype) and diagnosed definition? Most probably, this mean, that in newer editions maked more stronger diagnosing for mismatched prototypes, ie. this is bug in source, but your quoting should clear this issue. E I don't want to change the compiler, I only want to update E CauseWay. ;) :) All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Hi! 16-Июн-2006 18:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chris evans) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: NNTP is only one protocol to distribute lists. And distribution over email has its own advantages (for example, no depends from TCP/IP). ce Eh? email use 110/25 pop/smtp and AFIAK those use tcp/udp. Not necessary. I myself use uupc. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Hi! 17-Июн-2006 19:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chris evans) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: ce Hmm, what does the transport mechanism do with message sorting? Nothing. Sorting is function of mail client. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Want to read FreeDOS mails in a sensible order
Hi! 14-Июн-2006 11:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: JH out of order due to dates. Maybe that's because Thunderbird happens to JH sort them, or maybe it's because I never noticed. I don't know. Jim, you use Thunderbird? May be, you answer for me some questions about it? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] International chacarters and Open Watcom
Hi! 15-Июн-2006 00:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escorter) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: E Maybe it's a dumb question, but how can I enable the E international character support in the Open Watcom compiler? E In my program, I want to write a message to the screen with E printf, but the special characters (like щ or ≤) are E displayed as other ASCII simbols, or not displayed at all. This not relates to OW - if characters are not displayed (correctly), then this mean, that you not run program, which download required by you localized fonts. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installation Problem - PANIC: MCB chain corrupted System halted
Hi! 5-Июн-2006 11:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cherry chien) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: cc After reboot from 2G-harddisk cc Invalid Opcode at 2A18 0EB4 0613 03F2 . cc dos mem corrupt, first_mcb= cc prev :|1C 12 CF 00 DF 11 CF 00 C3 E2 00 F0 DF 11 Cf 00 cc notMZ:|1C 12 CF 00 DF 11 CF 00 C3 E2 00 F0 DF 11 Cf 00 cc PANIC: MCB chain corrupted cc System halted cc How can I fix the boot problem? Not enough information: which config.sys and autoexec.bat content on those disk? After which statement in config.sys you get this message (what you see on screen before this message)? Which kernel and FreeCOM version you use (do you get latest versions?)? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Lua in DOS?
Hi! 12-Июн-2006 19:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escorter) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Yes. You may recompile as DOS application E Hmmm... I compiled the basic interpreter (min.c) as a E standard (real-mode) DOS program. If I run it without any E parameters, it shows the help. But when I try to run the E hello.lua script (the basic Hello World! script), the E interpreter only shows Stack overflow!. What is the E problem? Do I need to modify the Stack: in the linker E options (I'm using the Open Watcom IDE)? First, don't forget to use Large memory model. Second, increasing stack should help. Third, there is successful experience in compiling Lua for DOS and running in it some examples from its TEST directory. This was achieved by Mat Nieuwenhoven. If you wish, I resend you his makefiles. Unfortunately, I not hear about complete success in DOS/16 version - probably, Lua sources should be reviewed for bug-haunting. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] ... Issue 849 = DOS driver for controller-less modem?
Hi! 11-Июн-2006 13:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Serghiy M. FEDORYNCHYK) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: SMF There are so called controller-less hardware modems, both SMF ISA and PCI, which are some intermediaries between win and SMF usual hardware modems. (I have, for example, Intel (R) 536EP SMF Are there any PRINCIPAL barriers in DOS architecture, to SMF develope such drivers, apart it's not easy? There are _no_ _principal_ barriers - DOS programs IO flow in virtual mode is completely controllable by external monitor (like EMM386), and it may emulate _anything_. Example: virtual machines like VMWare, Bochs, etc. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Lua in DOS?
Hi! 12-Июн-2006 00:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escorter) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: E Is it possible to use the Lua script system under DOS? I Yes. You may recompile as DOS application, as DOS32 application, or stub WinAPI emulation (for example, by WDOSX) to WIN32 edition. E Is somebody aroud this mailing list who uses Lua for E scripting in his/her DOS app? I plan this. But as standalone shell. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] I need an example
Hi! 9-Июн-2006 21:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: 3. binw\wlink doesn't rejects to run - it works, but _silently_ produces corrupted executable (some offsets in code calculated wrong). BC I would consider it more of a bug in Windows' emulation of DOS... Wlink _works_. Works _fine_. Issue is that it only wrongly calculates _some_ offsets in code. So, this is definitely bug in Wlink. Especially because any other DOS4GW programs (including, for example, WCC and WPP) works as expected. BC Also, in my experience, Win32 executables tend to run faster than DOS BC executables on Windows. This is another story. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] IRQ 17 what?
Hi! 9-Июн-2006 15:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lester Vedrox) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: EA irq are numbered 0 to 15, so what do you mean by irq 17? LV The last IRQ on my system has number 22: IRQ numbers above 15 are function of Advanced PIC (APIC), which isn't supported in (old) DOS programs. And I don't know, how they implemented and how hard they support (in DOS). EA is this a real modem or more a soundcard (winmodem)? LV It seems to be a real hardware modem: Motorola SM56 Speakerphone Modem. AFAIR, this is winmodem... LV - attached to: COM3 LV - IRQ channel: 17 LV - reset: ATF,cr ...and COM ports emultion is an function of Windows driver. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] LCD
Hi! 8-Июн-2006 08:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Spitzer) wrote to FreeDOS freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: CS I am finally considering LCD monitors. Most probably work fine in Win32 CS and Linux but I wonder if any of them also work well in *DOS and Win311. OS doesn't depend from display type, video APIs and interface doesn't differs between LCD/CRT. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] I need an example
Hi! 9-Июн-2006 21:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: PS: There is bug in OpenWatcom binw\wlink, when it produces correpted executable, when runs in DOSbox. So, you should be sure, that under Windows you run tools from binnt\, not binw\ directory. BC Which is the way it SHOULD be anyways :-) ( Why would anyone want to BC use DOS hosted tools if they're running windows??) 1. Common configuration files (with pathes). 2. Why not? 3. binw\wlink doesn't rejects to run - it works, but _silently_ produces corrupted executable (some offsets in code calculated wrong). ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] announce: OpenWatcom 1.5 distributive in .zip archives
Hi! Because there is no official distribution of OpenWatcom in .zip archives since version 1.4, I prepare OW 1.5 distributive in .zip-s at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.5/. Here you find archives with same layout, as OW 1.3 distributive, readme.txt (short introduction), license.txt and descript.ion (archives description file, compatible with FAR Manage, NDOS and 4DOS). Later I prepare files.lst listing (in Borland style) for all files in distributive with short description of each file (which is known what is it). This distributive prepared with partial help of Bart Oldeman - some files files was removed, some was moved, some was added, and Bart's advices was allow me to clarify some obscure aspects. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM 5 freezes/hangs/locks on FreeDOS 0.9 SR2
Hi! 4-Июн-2006 13:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hupp) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: JH hitch I noticed is that a message flashed by at the outset - something about JH TZ environment variable not found, I believe. This is dumb message from InfoZip. JH But the installation did not JH stop and seemed to finish without error. There is only one wrong thing with this - InfoZip incorrectly restores timestamps (shifted by some Time Zone hours amount). JH IF EXIST C:\FDOS\BIN\MOUSE.EXE CTMOUSE -^-^^^ Isn't there is bug? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install has run amok on my hard drives
Hi! 2-Июн-2006 18:17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: I wanted FreeDOS to leave my Recovery Partition alone and to install itself on my D: drive. Instead, without any instruction from me, it has modified my BC DOS (including FreeDOS) will only boot from the first recognized BC partition. No. DOS booted from any partition, from where it will started by MBR. And (default) MBR loads boot sector from any primary partition, marked as active (bootable). The more so, with help of (3rd party, non-standard) boot manager you may load DOS from anything (primary or logical partition), but C: is assigned by DOS to primary partition, which marked as active. BC Sof it you want to do this, you would have to use GRUB or BC another boot manager to 'switch' D: to C:. Not neccessary: SYS should copy system files (kernel.sys in case of FreeDOS) _to_ _any_ requested partition, then you may start boot sector from there in any way - through standard MBR (by making this partition active before rebooting) or through 3rd party boot manager (which may or may not mark booted partition as active). ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos installation
Hi! 4-Июн-2006 04:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lester Vedrox) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: LV You can have up to three primary partitions and one logical partition. Wrong. To be precise: 4 primary partitions or up to 3 primary partitions and one extended partition with any quantity of logical partitions. LV Here is example of how the hard drive could look before you boot to LV Windows XP: LV - Drive C, NTFS, primary, active, Windows XP LV - Drive -, NTFS, primary, hidden, Windows 2000 LV - Drive -, FAT32, primary, hidden, FreeDOS LV - Drive D, NTFS, logical, visible to XP 2000, not visible to FreeDOS LV - Drive E, NTFS, logical, visible to XP 2000, not visible to FreeDOS LV - Drive F, FAT32, logical, visible to XP, 2000 and FreeDOS This is wrong list, because original poster wrote about primary partition on second drive. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Partition order
Hi! 3-Июн-2006 11:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chris evans) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: ce I always still wonder what the best order of partition types to use. ce and have settled on in order (quadboot): 200mb NXDOS testing partition ce (E:), DOS 2gb FAT16 (C:), 4-5gb WINXP NTFS (D:), Linux swap, Boot, ce and Root in that order. Curious is it better to put swap parts at end ce of drive since that seems where drive parks its heads at shutdown, or ce between accesses (sleep mode). As I understand, you should forget about parking, because you not know _real_ processes, which performed by modern disks at shutdown. ce Just and idea... Could it be that freedos installer dont like the ce NTFS partition as primary? DOS ignores _any_ partition (primary and logical), which contains unknown file system (not FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32). ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Open Watcom full source code?
Hi! 27-Май-2006 14:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Escorter) wrote to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net: Is the full source code of Open Watcom available for the community? Yes, see links in answer of Wesley Parish. can't find some of the sources (e.g.: the source of the C and the C++ compiler, and the Watcom runitme library). Are They are spreaded across all source distributive. --- All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
