Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
ah I thought it would have been the jungle game still sounds good game though On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, As is my custom, I am now posting a little sneak preview of my upcoming action game called Palace Punch-up. This is a free game in which you have to try and destroy your opponent's palace by happily chucking huge rocks at it. Unfortunately, the other person is very likely to try to do the same thing to you which you are rather keen to prevent. You do this by hammering out the rocks that are piercing your wall. If you don't manage to beat away a rock in time, that section of your wall will crumble and you are one step closer to losing. This game can be played in offline mode on 6 difficulty levels, as well as online against another person over the Internet. The preview is at: http://www.blastbay.com/audio/palace_punch-up_preview.mp3 This game uses Microsoft SAPI 5.1 for its speech output, which will be useful in the future if I add a game lobby server with user names etc. For now, you have to connect directly to an IP address in order to play online. As always, pre-release feedback is most welcome! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments
Hi Tom, There is another strange bug: Because, obviously mota doesn't have a file menu or other such menu system, There is a system menu with a close option. I am, in the first example, in level 2 around 3 quarters of the way through, and I select one of the items (one above the pistol) and it closes the game after4 I alt tab back in. The second after I alt tabbed is when I was in the main menu, I go to version information and clicked it, and the game closed! Any way of helping? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 06 July 2010 03:45 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments I notice that the bug with the torch sound seems to be back. Last time I played I had a torch that I'd lit, then it went out. Then I found another torch and relit it immediately. The sound played twice, creating a sort of echo effect sort of like on those old getto blaster stereos where you could play both tape decks at the same time. Anyway, the torch eventually went out but there was still a torch sound playing, which continued through the rest of level one and on into level two. Then when I exited to the main menu the torch sound carried over to there. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments Hi Karl, Well, if you think about it realisticly you have to have a little space to perform any kind of attack. If you have a big weapon like a shotgun you have to have enough room between you and the target to point the barrel of the shotgun at the enemy. That's why every weapon has a minimum and maximum range. As for a special sound to indicate you are poisoned what exactly would that be? When Angela's health gets low she starts breathing hard, and if you hear a harpy claw you your chances are good she poisoned you with her claws. That's a well known harpy attack from mythology. Smile. On 7/5/10, karl belanger karl.belan...@myfairpoint.net wrote: One thing I found is that there is currently no way to target the enemy when it is on the same location as you. You have to move to one side, but then the enemy follows you and it is quite hard to line up a shot. Also, it would be very nice to have a sound effect to hear when you are poisoned. Karl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi Will, Oh no, the jungle game is still far from release. This was a game that I wrote in BGT in order to test the networking functionality that I've just added to the engine. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios ah I thought it would have been the jungle game still sounds good game though On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, As is my custom, I am now posting a little sneak preview of my upcoming action game called Palace Punch-up. This is a free game in which you have to try and destroy your opponent's palace by happily chucking huge rocks at it. Unfortunately, the other person is very likely to try to do the same thing to you which you are rather keen to prevent. You do this by hammering out the rocks that are piercing your wall. If you don't manage to beat away a rock in time, that section of your wall will crumble and you are one step closer to losing. This game can be played in offline mode on 6 difficulty levels, as well as online against another person over the Internet. The preview is at: http://www.blastbay.com/audio/palace_punch-up_preview.mp3 This game uses Microsoft SAPI 5.1 for its speech output, which will be useful in the future if I add a game lobby server with user names etc. For now, you have to connect directly to an IP address in order to play online. As always, pre-release feedback is most welcome! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Thanks to Ben and Scott.;
There are, according to my research, all the same, so don't worry about which one you get. They're great fun, and I can send all you need. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of The Kolesar Brothers Sent: 05 July 2010 17:19 To: Audyssey Mailing list Subject: [Audyssey] Thanks to Ben and Scott.; Just wanted to thank Ben and Scott for their advice. Now which ps 3 unit do you two have and which one to pick up. In Maybe in short, what's the top of the line ps3 unit for plugging into a usb port on a pc for hand to ear games? I thank Ben since he said that his ps3 usb handheld unit works with the blast chamber game and it also works with the troopanum game as well. Just was wondering if Ben or Scott Received my private letter. Thanks once again. Ron who now has been searching the web for prices on PS3 units. But there's so many to choose from. Have a good day, From the Kolesar brothers and our puppies kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi Tom, Glad to hear you like the concept. Just for the simple fact that my voice is always in my games I thought I'd try for something a little different, especially because it's easier to update if I should add a lobby server etc in the future. It's not impossible that I'll remove SAPI in a later release though, it could go either way. But for the time being, I figured that SAPI would be adequate. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Yes, the warriors would be great. Here is my idea if it is possible to implement: The soldiers would be limited. Do in one key press, you would send a certain amount of soldiers toa charge. In that charge the oponent's soldiers would defend, and you boath would lose some or all of them. In the best case, the player's soldiers could destroy a section of the wall, in the worst they would be all lost. After the attack, the soldiers would return, and they will be able to attack until all are lost. After that, only rocks would remain as the weapon. I hope this is not complicated, neither to implement nor to understand. :) Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi there, I think this would be a little bit tricky to do, mainly because of the way that the game is played. There are already a million things going on at once, and so soldiers would in my opinion make things much too hard to follow. This is not very clear from the demo, perhaps, but the game requires incredible concentration even as is. The concept is a good foundation for a second freeby if it should happen to rain this summer, though. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Yes, the warriors would be great. Here is my idea if it is possible to implement: The soldiers would be limited. Do in one key press, you would send a certain amount of soldiers toa charge. In that charge the oponent's soldiers would defend, and you boath would lose some or all of them. In the best case, the player's soldiers could destroy a section of the wall, in the worst they would be all lost. After the attack, the soldiers would return, and they will be able to attack until all are lost. After that, only rocks would remain as the weapon. I hope this is not complicated, neither to implement nor to understand. :) Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi, There is another thing that I would ask you: as your game is free, and you made it using BGT, can you post to the list the source code, as an example for us who quite don't understand the way how one game should be written? Thanks! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Hi there, I think this would be a little bit tricky to do, mainly because of the way that the game is played. There are already a million things going on at once, and so soldiers would in my opinion make things much too hard to follow. This is not very clear from the demo, perhaps, but the game requires incredible concentration even as is. The concept is a good foundation for a second freeby if it should happen to rain this summer, though. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Yes, the warriors would be great. Here is my idea if it is possible to implement: The soldiers would be limited. Do in one key press, you would send a certain amount of soldiers toa charge. In that charge the oponent's soldiers would defend, and you boath would lose some or all of them. In the best case, the player's soldiers could destroy a section of the wall, in the worst they would be all lost. After the attack, the soldiers would return, and they will be able to attack until all are lost. After that, only rocks would remain as the weapon. I hope this is not complicated, neither to implement nor to understand. :) Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hello Phil. Yep but i like your voice in your productiopns, lol, maybe sounds strange, but i think the voice is good, especially for the humorous games. And again, good job, I am waiting for the game to test it here. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Willem Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Willem, Umm, I stated that every single time that I have tried to up grade my computer it has gone to heck! You suggested that I do several up grades. Thank you, but no! thank! you! I do understand a person's personal choice to run the latest greatest hugest new software, but in Thomas's case he is also forcing his prospective customers to do the same. You know when my computer is running fine and doing what I want it to, I leave it alone. And just use it. Inter net Explorer works great for me. Well it did until the up grade. Internet Explorer still works great until I close it, then as I said it blows up my desk top, but that was not Internet Explorer, but the up grade I did to it. Oh yeah and I am still running and very happy with JFW version 4.02. But like I said if I had the money I would maybe buy a new computer and JFW 11. But for now for the most part I am very very happy with Windows XP, VB6, JFW 4.02 and the rest of what I am running on my computers. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim. While I am not Thomas, I think I understand what he is doing. His decision to run the latest and greatest is a personal one. You could run his games on windows 98 if you wanted, all you need to install is at least directX 8 and the visual c++ runtimes. Visual basic also has similar runtimes and they are less than 5 mb in size, as aposed to the dotNet framework. I also recommend you use firefox, because internet explorer is a pot of nonsense, though you'll need at least jaws 8 or equivalent screen reader to use it. Nvda is free ( http://nvda-project.org and works great with firefox. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Thomas, Just wondering. I thought that you had decided to program in straight C++ so that people did not need to down load 300 meg of up grades to be able to run your game like they did when it was in C net. But now you have changed your mind and again people need to be running the latest greatest software from Microsoft right? Maybe if I could afford a new computer and a screen reader that would run on it I might check out your game. But as it is now, every time that I try to up grade my computer it runs much worse. The last time I did this was so that I could listen to a radio stream from WMMS Rover's Morning Glory, now every time that I close Internet Explorer it blows up my desk top etc. So I need to reboot. Even a sighted person with a mouse can not use my computer without a reboot. http://roverradio.com But I guess my point is, are you not going backwards to forcing people to up grade like when the game was in a net language? Just asking. BFN Jim Cannabis, Rock N Roll, Sex, Love, Health, Happiness and Peace to all! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA Jim - The Def. of Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi Milos, Just because a game is free does not mean he has to release the source code. There are already five or six examples of BGT code, which I think is quite adequate. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Hi, There is another thing that I would ask you: as your game is free, and you made it using BGT, can you post to the list the source code, as an example for us who quite don't understand the way how one game should be written? Thanks! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Hi there, I think this would be a little bit tricky to do, mainly because of the way that the game is played. There are already a million things going on at once, and so soldiers would in my opinion make things much too hard to follow. This is not very clear from the demo, perhaps, but the game requires incredible concentration even as is. The concept is a good foundation for a second freeby if it should happen to rain this summer, though. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Yes, the warriors would be great. Here is my idea if it is possible to implement: The soldiers would be limited. Do in one key press, you would send a certain amount of soldiers toa charge. In that charge the oponent's soldiers would defend, and you boath would lose some or all of them. In the best case, the player's soldiers could destroy a section of the wall, in the worst they would be all lost. After the attack, the soldiers would return, and they will be able to attack until all are lost. After that, only rocks would remain as the weapon. I hope this is not complicated, neither to implement nor to understand. :) Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5263 (20100708) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
[Audyssey] MOTA fire
Hi, I tried to play MOTA on the training level, but still managed to get burned in a fire, angela seemed to warn me a second or two too late. Is she usually slow to warn you, should I walk slower, or is this a bug? She warned me, funnily and comically enough, during her scream of death. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
that game is interesting. sounds like the old arcade thing I used to hear around the machines. At 06:25 p.m. 9/07/2010, you wrote: Hi Tom, Glad to hear you like the concept. Just for the simple fact that my voice is always in my games I thought I'd try for something a little different, especially because it's easier to update if I should add a lobby server etc in the future. It's not impossible that I'll remove SAPI in a later release though, it could go either way. But for the time being, I figured that SAPI would be adequate. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] new gamefrom blastbay.
hi where can i get the new game from blastbay don't see anything on the websight ian mcnamara. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Or maybe make a soldiers battles? for example it can be like bonus, or before castle attacking you must defeat all soldiers, and for example, you can walking your soldier, and manually killing enemies. Only a suggestion. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA fire
Well the answer is two fold. Firstly, yup, I'd always walk when playing with fire so to speak unless I knew that part of the level well, just for safety's sake. Secondly, the warning messages do seem to be a bit late IMHO. I don't think there's a delay in triggering them, think it's more about the breath that's been left on the beginning of the ogg files. I've mentioned it in another thread to Thomas already, so hopefully he agrees and sees the problem. Hth Scott On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi, I tried to play MOTA on the training level, but still managed to get burned in a fire, angela seemed to warn me a second or two too late. Is she usually slow to warn you, should I walk slower, or is this a bug? She warned me, funnily and comically enough, during her scream of death. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, Yes, I have a fairly current version of Gold Wave, well and an old copy that I like. I also keep my anti virus current, but other than that, I do not see why I should, or have any desire to, up grade to the supposed newest, best, hugest software. I mean as it has been shown with games, JFW etc, if a person or persons want to crack and boot leg the software, people will! and can! do the same with the security fixes etc. BTW I am also still running Cool Edit version 1.53 which was written for Windows 3.1. It runs just fine and has some cool features that Gold Wave does not have. As far as I know, software does not wear out like an old pair of socks does or something like that. TGIF and BFN Jim Sharewear (n.) -- Used clothing. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Willem, My computer including Internet Explorer are working great! for me now. I have not heard one reason that I should up grade my computer other than some games would require it. And since I am running JFW 4.02 I am pretty sure that I would no longer be able to use many of the newer programs that Windows up dates would install. You know such as Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player etc etc. BTW you nor anyone else would need to up grade their computer to run any of my games. Well unless maybe if they are running Windows 98, 95 or 3.1. My games are all good to go on XP, Vista and Windows 7. Well ok, you need to do my WinKit.zip install for Vista and Windows 7, but my games really are designed to run with what the WinKit installs anyway. TGIF and BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Well as most people on this list upgrade their computers regularly and are still sending email and working with their computers I guess you were just unlucky. Maybe you should try upgrading your computer to the latest and greatest of software just in case people fixed some bugs. I know for sure that Microsoft released a version of internet explorer 6 that had several memory leeks and crashed often. They fixed the problems in internet explorer 7 I hear, though I choose to use firefox. By your logic then I shouldn't try any games as it would involve upgrading software or low and behold actually installing new software. Jim Go ahead, jump. 100,000 lemmings can't be wrong. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] evo this week
Evo is starting today! Al you fighting game enthusiasts wil be n heaven. lol. Here are two links to previous evo streams so yu know what it's like. best matches from last year, in my opinion. http://www.sendspace.com/file/bj4q9t http://www.sendspace.com/file/aviocg Once again go to evo2k.com/live for the live stream! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Jim, Ah, but we aren't so different really. If I want to play your games on Windows 7, which I do, I have to install Winkit to get the backwards compatibility runtime libraries for VB. Well, if you want to play my games on XP you have to install the latest Visual C++ Runtime libraries. Either one is not very big, and according to the Microsoft website the full Visual C++ runtime install is 6 MB. That's nothin' compared to installing the Java 6 Runtime Environment which is like 40 MB last I checked or the .Net Framework upgrades that are close to 300 MB now. The major difference between what you do and I do is you still use Visual Basic 6 and I use Visual C++ 2008 along with the Windows Platform SDK to write my games. I need the Visual Basic Runtime to play your games and you need the Visual C++ Runtime to play mine. It is not a big deal really. As for Jaws 4.02, yeah, that's pretty ancient. There is a lot of applications it does not support like Mozilla Firefox 3.6, Internet Explorer 8, Microsoft Office 2007, and so on. You couldn't even think about upgrading to Windows 7 without a major Jaws upgrade to Jaws 11 which would be extremely expensive for you sinceyou are so far behind on updates. You'd pretty much have to use an open source alternative like NVDA instead if cost is a major factor in upgrading. I'm not going to argue with your choices and decisions as you have what you obviously like. Willem and I feel differently. I for one really like Firefox and hardly ever use Internet Explorer. That is of course a personal decision, because I feel it is more secure and I love the multitab browsing ability. Of course, Internet Explorer 8 now has multitab browsing too, but as with everything else Microsoft got the idea from someone else and now tries to passit off as their own idea. Sounds like another screen reader I know that goes by the name of Jaws. They pretty much got several of their features by copying innovations from other screen reader manufacturers and passed those updates off to their customers as new ideas who were ignorant of what the other screen reader manufacturers were doing. Smile. On 7/9/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Willem, My computer including Internet Explorer are working great! for me now. I have not heard one reason that I should up grade my computer other than some games would require it. And since I am running JFW 4.02 I am pretty sure that I would no longer be able to use many of the newer programs that Windows up dates would install. You know such as Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player etc etc. BTW you nor anyone else would need to up grade their computer to run any of my games. Well unless maybe if they are running Windows 98, 95 or 3.1. My games are all good to go on XP, Vista and Windows 7. Well ok, you need to do my WinKit.zip install for Vista and Windows 7, but my games really are designed to run with what the WinKit installs anyway. TGIF and BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi, Nope. My copy of Vista never had a classic start menu option or classic desktop option. It did however did allow you to set the control panel back to classic which I also liked. However, that option too is gone in Windows 7. HTH On 7/8/10, weis...@googlemail.com weis...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, As far as I know vista did have an optional classic start menu, but they took that feature out in windows seven. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Jim, I musgt agree with Willem here. It certainly isn't necessary to have the latest and greatest of everything, Jim, but I'd be willing to bet that some day soon there will be something you will want to use, and it won't be accessible with 4.02. Some of the stuff you don't want to upgrade makes sense, like JAWS and VB, also since you have gotten use to the programming IDE offered, and I must admit I prefer it over the newer visual studio interface. However, things like Windows Media Player arecertainly free to upgrade. I'll stop now. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:55 PM To: Hayden Presley Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Hayden and all, Yes, JFW 4.02. Works great with IE 6.0, Windows Media player 8.0, The programming environment in VB6 and well with Windows XP in general including the command prompt, batch files and all of the programs that I write in VB6. Of course I have been a fan of Jaws since Jaws for dos version 1. BFN Jim If it works, don't fix it! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Jim, I musgt agree with Willem here. It certainly isn't necessary to have the latest and greatest of everything, Jim, but I'd be willing to bet that some day soon there will be something you will want to use, and it won't be accessible with 4.02. Some of the stuff you don't want to upgrade makes sense, like JAWS and VB, also since you have gotten use to the programming IDE offered, and I must admit I prefer it over the newer visual studio interface. However, things like Windows Media Player arecertainly free to upgrade. I'll stop now. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:55 PM To: Hayden Presley Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Hayden and all, Yes, JFW 4.02. Works great with IE 6.0, Windows Media player 8.0, The programming environment in VB6 and well with Windows XP in general including the command prompt, batch files and all of the programs that I write in VB6. Of course I have been a fan of Jaws since Jaws for dos version 1. BFN Jim If it works, don't fix it! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi, I believe I've heard that =myself. What I'd like to know is, how, in any way, did it benefit Microsoft to take it out in 7? If people love that fresh new interface, then they'll use it. The classic Start Menu is In nobody's way who doesn't want it there. I wonder how many people use XP who don't even know about the thing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hello, As far as I know vista did have an optional classic start menu, but they took that feature out in windows seven. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net, Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, Well, Vista didn't have a classic mode either. So I guess I had two or three years to get use to it. However, it isn't all doom and gloom. You can certainly change certain aspects of the new start menu to clean up some of the clutter people are talking about. Smile. On 7/8/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: That! really! stinks! --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Jim, I musgt agree with Willem here. It certainly isn't necessary to have the latest and greatest of everything, Jim, but I'd be willing to bet that some day soon there will be something you will want to use, and it won't be accessible with 4.02. Some of the stuff you don't want to upgrade makes sense, like JAWS and VB, also since you have gotten use to the programming IDE offered, and I must admit I prefer it over the newer visual studio interface. However, things like Windows Media Player arecertainly free to upgrade. I'll stop now. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:55 PM To: Hayden Presley Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Hayden and all, Yes, JFW 4.02. Works great with IE 6.0, Windows Media player 8.0, The programming environment in VB6 and well with Windows XP in general including the command prompt, batch files and all of the programs that I write in VB6. Of course I have been a fan of Jaws since Jaws for dos version 1. BFN Jim If it works, don't fix it! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi, I believe I've heard that =myself. What I'd like to know is, how, in any way, did it benefit Microsoft to take it out in 7? If people love that fresh new interface, then they'll use it. The classic Start Menu is In nobody's way who doesn't want it there. I wonder how many people use XP who don't even know about the thing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hello, As far as I know vista did have an optional classic start menu, but they took that feature out in windows seven. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net, Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, Well, Vista didn't have a classic mode either. So I guess I had two or three years to get use to it. However, it isn't all doom and gloom. You can certainly change certain aspects of the new start menu to clean up some of the clutter people are talking about. Smile. On 7/8/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: That! really! stinks! --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Thomas, Doesn't Internet Explorer 8 have problems with FTP sites? I certainly know 7 did. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi Hayden, My goodness! I've seen most of your recent messages come through two or three times at once, which I have alerted you to once or twice, but this one came six times. Do you get false notifications that the email isn't being sent or something? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Philip Bennefall' phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, Huh? Tha's bizarre. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien Pendleton Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Hayden, Do you know that this message has been sent three times? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Funny you mention that. I've heard of places that are actually trying to get rid of paper, not the other way around. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien Pendleton Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:36 AM To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Charles, Quite agreed. Blind people should be able to use a piece of software without having to use set files, scripts, map files, macros and goodness knows what else just to make it work. The mainstream industry should care about everybody without being so prejudiced. It's the same with companies refusing to release online forms because they think that paper is better and more feasible, traditional, whatever the reason. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I'm using Microsoft Word 7, unfortunately. They switched from classic pulldown menus to a stupid ribbon system. It might look?? better, but I! don't! care! It's not as user friendly if you cannot see it, and, to me, that's what matters. Microsoft Word 2003 was much more intuitive and easily used. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it! Same for the OS. Couldn't they have made Windows 7 just as secure as it currently is, and left the OS set up as it was in Windows 98? I have no problems with Outlook Express. It is a good and reliable Email client that is easy to use and straightforward. So, why did they do away with it? And why did they come out with Vista in the first place if it was so crappy and buggy? I'm sure that at least a majority of the problems cropped up during nationwide beta testing, but they released it anyway. To me, they should have cared more about quality rather than a time deadline. I would not think nearly as much of Thomas Ward as I di if he decided to put MOTA out no later than April of 2010 because customers were after him to get it out. Instead, he goes through testing, reworking what is needed, then testing, then reworking what is needed, until the game is ready, and then it will be released. A quality product that he is taking the time to make reliable. Put out a good reliable product of quality, and you'll be known for it. Put out garbage and you'll be known for it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, If support will not be continued for old software then I at least wish that developers didn't continually update the user interface to something that a regular user has to start exploring all over again as if he were a beginner. There are some pieces of software that I point blank refuse to update for that reason. Because when I do, the interface is so different, the menus restructured, the main window revamped and so prettied up that it's no longer usable except with bags of time to work out how to use it the way you used to and heavily modifying scripts to make it as accessible as last time, etc, etc. Oh, and let's not forget some unnamed software that insist, or at least used to insist, on placing stupid advertisements on an html side bar on the main screen that you conveniently couldn't get rid of. That's why with most of the software I use, I am at least two or more versions behind the current release. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Shaun, Oh, I don't know. A lot of the newer stuff for Windows 7 simply is not backwards compatible with Windows XP. That's why Microsoft doesn't have an upgrade installation that upgrades Windows XP to Windows 7 and you have to do a complete reinstall. The operating systems are just too different to make that really possible. Only a certain amount of things can be upgraded from XP to Windows 7 compatible stuff, and
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, Huh? Tha's bizarre. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien Pendleton Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Hayden, Do you know that this message has been sent three times? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Funny you mention that. I've heard of places that are actually trying to get rid of paper, not the other way around. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien Pendleton Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:36 AM To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Charles, Quite agreed. Blind people should be able to use a piece of software without having to use set files, scripts, map files, macros and goodness knows what else just to make it work. The mainstream industry should care about everybody without being so prejudiced. It's the same with companies refusing to release online forms because they think that paper is better and more feasible, traditional, whatever the reason. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I'm using Microsoft Word 7, unfortunately. They switched from classic pulldown menus to a stupid ribbon system. It might look?? better, but I! don't! care! It's not as user friendly if you cannot see it, and, to me, that's what matters. Microsoft Word 2003 was much more intuitive and easily used. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it! Same for the OS. Couldn't they have made Windows 7 just as secure as it currently is, and left the OS set up as it was in Windows 98? I have no problems with Outlook Express. It is a good and reliable Email client that is easy to use and straightforward. So, why did they do away with it? And why did they come out with Vista in the first place if it was so crappy and buggy? I'm sure that at least a majority of the problems cropped up during nationwide beta testing, but they released it anyway. To me, they should have cared more about quality rather than a time deadline. I would not think nearly as much of Thomas Ward as I di if he decided to put MOTA out no later than April of 2010 because customers were after him to get it out. Instead, he goes through testing, reworking what is needed, then testing, then reworking what is needed, until the game is ready, and then it will be released. A quality product that he is taking the time to make reliable. Put out a good reliable product of quality, and you'll be known for it. Put out garbage and you'll be known for it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, If support will not be continued for old software then I at least wish that developers didn't continually update the user interface to something that a regular user has to start exploring all over again as if he were a beginner. There are some pieces of software that I point blank refuse to update for that reason. Because when I do, the interface is so different, the menus restructured, the main window revamped and so prettied up that it's no longer usable except with bags of time to work out how to use it the way you used to and heavily modifying scripts to make it as accessible as last time, etc, etc. Oh, and let's not forget some unnamed software that insist, or at least used to insist, on placing stupid advertisements on an html side bar on the main screen that you conveniently couldn't get rid of. That's why with most of the software I use, I am at least two or more versions behind the current release. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Shaun, Oh, I don't know. A lot of the newer stuff for Windows 7 simply is not backwards compatible with Windows XP. That's why Microsoft doesn't have an upgrade installation that upgrades Windows XP to Windows 7 and you have to do a complete reinstall. The operating systems are just too different to make that really possible. Only a certain amount of things can be upgraded from XP to Windows 7 compatible stuff, and
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version
Hi All, I am sorry, for some reason, I am getting email duplicated here. Please try to bare with me. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:18 AM To: 'Philip Bennefall'; 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Hayden, This is something I've thought about, though I haven't decided on anything definite yet. If I do, this will be at a time when the core is 100 % stable and I am not constantly adding new features as is the case right now. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, Do you ever intend to make an IDE for BGT? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Bryan, Oh the unlimited commercial pro license will still be available, never fear. I'll post some more information about it once I have the new structure finalized. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version I agree with Thomas. As for the price thing, I think you should still keep the option of the unrestricted license for those, however few they might be, who might want to make use of it. It might take me longer to afford to pay for it but I'd certainly want to go that route. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Thomas, I'm glad you think so. I'll be tweaking and adding a few more things before release, but it should not be too long now. I have also made an action game that utilizes the networking, but more about that later. Smile. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Philip, I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds like Christmas in July. That's an impressive set of updates and I'll look forward to trying the new beta of BGT when it comes out. Smile. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 ---
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, I do not believe so. I recall someone let me on to their FTP server to download Night of Parasite once. I got it to open in the Windows Explorer interface, and it seemed to work well that way, anyway. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien Pendleton Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Thomas, Doesn't Internet Explorer 8 have problems with FTP sites? I certainly know 7 did. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Jim, All I can say is you must have had a lot of bad luck as I've never had that problem. I often run Windows update and the system runs better and those patches fixes bugs, security problems, whatever in the operating system I am running. There are cases such as the upgrade to Internet Explorer 5 to Internet Explorer 6 where that was a bad decision because Internet Explorer 6 had a number of memory leaks and bugs that were eventually resolved in Internet Explorer 7 that is why I don't run anything less than Internet Explorer 7 and I happen to have Internet Explorer 8 which comes with Windows 7 anyway. However, by and large my system doesn't go to heck when I apply patches and upgrades. So I really don't understand what happened or why your system had that problem. What I can say is you have obviously had a few bad experiences with upgrades, I can see that by the tone of your message, and now your attitude is that all upgrades are bad. The if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. Unfortunately, that is a very very narrow view of life and computer software in general, because it totally ignores some of the good things that can come from upgrading. Weather or not you use those features or not some of us do appreciate some of the things we get by upgrading. For example, Internet Explorer 8 comes with Windows 7 out of the box. I happen to feel it is a superior product over Internet Explorer 6 for a number of reasons. There were a numbr of bugs in Internet Explorer 6 that are no longer in Internet Explorer 8, it has multitab browsing, a built in pop up blocker, amung other nice handy little features. So with multitab browsing in I.E. 8 I can have my gmail inbox open in one tab and have something like Facebook open in another. I could even create a third tab and be browsing amazon.com in still yet another tab. It allows me to browse multiple websites or look at different pages at once for various reasons which I personally think comes in handy. You don't really realise how handy a feature like that comes in handy until you have it and begin using it regularly. It is a feature that meets the needs of those of us who spend a lot of time on the internet doing this or that. Basicly, whatI am saying is that your attitude towards upgrades is similar to attitudes some women have after they come out of a bad relationship. I've got a female friend like that, and her attitude is that all men suck and are jurks. Does that make it true? Well, of course not. However, since you had afew bad upgrade experiences, for one reason or another, now your attitude that upgrading is all bad, nothing but bad, and therefore no person in their right mind would do it. Well, I'm sorry that you had those bad experiences, but that's being overly critical in my opinion. Cheers! On 7/8/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Ok, but still all I hear is I need the latest, latest, latest, and as I stated every time I up grade my computer it goes to heck! So I plan to use my computer the way that it is until it dies and I need to somehow buy a new computer and a screen reader that will run on it. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Thomas, Definitely. Multitab browsing is probably one of my favorite features in IE these days. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Test
Hi All, This is a test message, trying to test what conditions I get six messages sent, as Damien thankfully pointed out. I'm not sure why this is happening, I've never ad this before. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi Phillip, Lol...happily shucking rocks? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of lirin Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:20 AM To: Philip Bennefall; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Great idea and sounds good. If you'll add some things, like attacking guardians, or soldiers with a swords from the castles, it will be great. Only as always, in your games was your voice, now is SAPI, sounds little ... hm, strange without it lol generally, great step, cause in the last months nothing happens in the audio games world, sadly. Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments
Hi Ben, If you were running a previous BETA, did you uninstall it before installing BETA 13? I don't know exactly what the problem is but that seems to fix a couple of problems, one of wich I had where it closed if I hit version information. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:14 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments Hi Tom, There is another strange bug: Because, obviously mota doesn't have a file menu or other such menu system, There is a system menu with a close option. I am, in the first example, in level 2 around 3 quarters of the way through, and I select one of the items (one above the pistol) and it closes the game after4 I alt tab back in. The second after I alt tabbed is when I was in the main menu, I go to version information and clicked it, and the game closed! Any way of helping? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 06 July 2010 03:45 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments I notice that the bug with the torch sound seems to be back. Last time I played I had a torch that I'd lit, then it went out. Then I found another torch and relit it immediately. The sound played twice, creating a sort of echo effect sort of like on those old getto blaster stereos where you could play both tape decks at the same time. Anyway, the torch eventually went out but there was still a torch sound playing, which continued through the rest of level one and on into level two. Then when I exited to the main menu the torch sound carried over to there. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Comments Hi Karl, Well, if you think about it realisticly you have to have a little space to perform any kind of attack. If you have a big weapon like a shotgun you have to have enough room between you and the target to point the barrel of the shotgun at the enemy. That's why every weapon has a minimum and maximum range. As for a special sound to indicate you are poisoned what exactly would that be? When Angela's health gets low she starts breathing hard, and if you hear a harpy claw you your chances are good she poisoned you with her claws. That's a well known harpy attack from mythology. Smile. On 7/5/10, karl belanger karl.belan...@myfairpoint.net wrote: One thing I found is that there is currently no way to target the enemy when it is on the same location as you. You have to move to one side, but then the enemy follows you and it is quite hard to line up a shot. Also, it would be very nice to have a sound effect to hear when you are poisoned. Karl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
I must confess I found six a good deal less stable than 7 or 8, which is why I've upgraded to 8 on my desktop and seven on my laptop. however, I equally find the pop up blocker irritating sinse it tends to get in the way of playing games like Sryth or warriors 2 where pop ups are needed, not to mention pop up buying forms on some websites. I also much prefer having multiple windows to multiple tabs, something I do regularly when writing news or database updates for audiogames.net where I need the page I'm editing open in one window, and a second to bring up information I need such as game links to copy etc. i must confess while I see the point of tab brousing for a sited user who can view more than one set of information on screen at once, for me I just find it irritating sinse it's easier to go betwene different open windows which are separate than different tabs. All personal preference though of course. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios
Hi Phillip, I see you've been making use of those loops you uploaded. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Upcoming action game from Blastbay Studios Hi all, As is my custom, I am now posting a little sneak preview of my upcoming action game called Palace Punch-up. This is a free game in which you have to try and destroy your opponent's palace by happily chucking huge rocks at it. Unfortunately, the other person is very likely to try to do the same thing to you which you are rather keen to prevent. You do this by hammering out the rocks that are piercing your wall. If you don't manage to beat away a rock in time, that section of your wall will crumble and you are one step closer to losing. This game can be played in offline mode on 6 difficulty levels, as well as online against another person over the Internet. The preview is at: http://www.blastbay.com/audio/palace_punch-up_preview.mp3 This game uses Microsoft SAPI 5.1 for its speech output, which will be useful in the future if I add a game lobby server with user names etc. For now, you have to connect directly to an IP address in order to play online. As always, pre-release feedback is most welcome! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audio Quake -was- Re: Game Compatibility was Tomb Hunter Error
Actually to clarify; The reason one might want to purchase the game rather than just use the shareware demo is so that you can have the original music and go beyond the first episode (4 maps) and finish the single player game, which has four episodes. I believe you can actually find the music and all of the game maps online though, in various places, though I haven't checked for them. Now, having said that, all of the online features (such as team play and deathmatch) are available with the shareware demo, so if you want to play with real people, then you need not search for or purchase anything. HOpe that makes sense. Now, as for accessibility; -much more than a demo is accessible. The complete online experience is accessible to enjoy and all of the standard game maps have the Audio quake access features, (as well as do hundreds of user created maps as well) So the game is quite playable, if I'm understanding people correctly. Anyway, hope this helps and have a great day!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Hayden, Yes if you want all the features. One reason is, as I recall, even though the Quake source is open source the sounds, graphics, music, etc are not and must be purchased or something like that. I don't remember all the whys and why nots, but it is something like that as I recall. On 7/8/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, Something else irritating is, if I recollect correctly, you have to purchase a copy of the original video game itself for audio quake to work. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Hayden, I'm actually glad you braught that up because that is a very good point. One I don't think many VI computer users think about since they only think about how they themselves use their computer rather than the mainstream public. As I have said many times on this list I generally work as a tech support person in my local area doing Windows upgrades, performing system restores, fixing a computer that has had a virus attack, setting up local networks for churches, whatever needs doing. The one thing I can tell you is most of the people out there running Windows XP do not use the classic desktop and classic start menu setup. Therefore that particular feature is not exactly in high demand by Microsoft's customers. The only people I hear complaining about not having that feature is VI computer users on this and other adaptive lists where so many VI computer users are unwilling to let go of the classic mode and use the default setup that comes with Windows 7 now. I don't see any reason for VI users to complain about it, because it is a fact of life and might as well accept it. As my mother-in-law always says, it is time to roll with the change. To be quite honest that is one of the reasons I really dislike working with some VI users. They have this attitude that upgrading to a new piece of software that uses a new menu system, uses ribbons instead of menus, whatever is the end of the world or something. Let's face it is not the end of the world. You can adapt, relearn to use it, if you are willing to change. Some people apparently aren't which is the problem. For those people who don't want to accept change then don't. You can run your old software, old computer, etc until it dies. It doesn't effect the rest of us who have decided to move on with life. However, if you choose to stick with the old don't complain about the rest of us who have decided to adopt new software and new ways of doing things, and don't complain if your old software or old computer isn't supported any more. You made that choice so live with it. Let's face it if you absolutely hate Windows 7 that bad there are alternatives. You can buy a Macbook with Mac OS X on it. You can buy a new Del Notebook computer already loaded with Ubuntu Linux 10 on it. You don't have to ever use Windows at all any more if you don't want too because both Mac and Linux have screen readers available as well. Maybe not Jaws quality, but they do exist and are functionally decent enough to use. Anyway, to get back to the subject of this e-mail things in the sighted world will always market to the sighted computer user first. That's a fact of life. As you said Microsoft wouldn't remove a feature if it was something truly important to a sighted majority. The classic start menu etc obviously is not as the new Windows 7 interface is easier to use if you are using it with a mouse and can see it. Therefore the classic start menu etc would be seen as a major downgrade of the user interface in the eyes of many sighted computer users. Why would they want to go back to an older and visually less user friendly interface? Cheers! On 7/9/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I believe I've heard that =myself. What I'd like to know is, how, in any way, did it benefit Microsoft to take it out in 7? If people love that fresh new interface, then they'll use it. The classic Start Menu is In nobody's way who doesn't want it there. I wonder how many people use XP who don't even know about the thing. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Wow, so what's the issue here?… First off, Jim, I agree with you that it's certainly nice to have a system that gives you a good comfort level and I'd actually go so far as to say downright necessary. -But this is where my understanding of people's complaints about this issue ends. I mean, what are people griping about here? This is not a developer's responsibility to need to take every single user's configuration into account. -If you can't play the game, then you can't play the game. What's the issue?… it's just a game!… So why are people complaining?… Anyway, Jim, I'm sure not targeting you here, as I'm just getting into this thread late. I guess I'm just not sure what people are expecting from developers here, and to be sure, Thomas is paying way more attention than most devs would. So just not sure why people are whining so much. That's all… Anyway, thanks for reading and do have a lovely weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Ok, but still all I hear is I need the latest, latest, latest, and as I stated every time I up grade my computer it goes to heck! So I plan to use my computer the way that it is until it dies and I need to somehow buy a new computer and a screen reader that will run on it. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Yes, that was definitely one of the reasons I went to straight C++. I didn't feel people needed to download and install a number of extra dependencies like the .Net Framework, Managed DirectX, etc. I still hold to that reasoning However, you still need to have the latest C++ Windows libraries to run my games because I am using a newer version of Visual C++ that links against the Windows 7.1 Windows Platform SDK libraries which are newer than those that ship with XP by default. However, downloading the latest Visual C++ runtime update is much much smaller than the .Net Framework and Managed DirectX. It is just one of those prices you pay for trying to maintain an upto date C++ application for Windows while maintaining some backwards compatibility with older Windows releases like XP that are beginning to show their age from a programming point of view. The other reason I picked C++ is eventually, I don't know when, I'd still like to make non-Windows releases of my games for Mac OS X and Linux. It is not really feasable to do that using .Net because the Mono Framework for Linux and Mac isn't completely 100% compatible with the Microsoft .Net Framework. Instead a game written in C++ is mostly compatible with non-Windows releases already, but I would certainly have to rewrite audio, input, and other operating system specific parts of the core to support non-Windows operating systems. Having it in C++ atleast makes that possible, but still would be something of a major update to the code as well. So to answer your question I'm not asking anyone to be running the latest and greatest Windows releases to play my games. I happen to have an older laptop here, I got back in 2005, with Windows XP SP3 on it and Mysteries of the Ancients runs fine on it provided I have installed the latest XP Windows updates and have installed the latest Windows C++ libraries. So I don't see asking a user to apply a few Windows updates, which a person should do anyway for the latest critical updates, security patches, and various ccompatibility updates as a big issue. Usually installing the dependencies you would need for my games are less than 50 MB not 300 or more MB. As to why I am using the latest C++ libraries the answer is two-fold. Number one, I happen to be running Windows 7 on my newer laptop and since I want it to work smoothly with Windows 7 that means I should be linking against the most compatible libraries for that operating system. Number two, I'm using the latest Visual Studio development tools and by default they link against the newest Windows Platform SDK headers and libraries. It doesn't make much sense to go to the Microsoft website and download a much older release of the Platform SDK to use the lowest common denominator when newer C++ libraries are available for XP anyway. The customer just needs to install them to bring his/her XP system up to date is all. So I have not changed my mind. The issue is a technical one not a personal one. I don't see the need to post a dozen versions of the program on the website like for Windows XP click here, for Vista click here, and for Windows 7 click here, etc. That's just stupid when I can design the program to run on any and all of the above provided the persons computer has reasonably new version of the XP, Vista, or Windows 7 C++ libraries. HTH On 7/8/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Just wondering. I thought that you had decided to program in straight C++ so that people did not need to down load 300 meg of up grades to be able to run your game like they did when it was in C net. But now you have changed your mind and again
[Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Thanks Philip will give it a go as it's a the weekend, and b since I'm in destructive mode. Smile - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, That I don't really know the answer to because I generally don't use Firefox or Internet Explorer for ftp access. I always use a ftp client like Filezilla to access ftp sites. So no practical experience with using Internet Explorer 8 for ftp here. HTH On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Doesn't Internet Explorer 8 have problems with FTP sites? I certainly know 7 did. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Hayden, Yeah, I know for a fact Internet Explorer 6 works this way, but I witnessed my music teacher struggle to access my FTP with Internet Explorer 7 to download a piece of coursework I had done. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, I do not believe so. I recall someone let me on to their FTP server to download Night of Parasite once. I got it to open in the Windows Explorer interface, and it seemed to work well that way, anyway. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Damien Pendleton Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Thomas, Doesn't Internet Explorer 8 have problems with FTP sites? I certainly know 7 did. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Thomas, You have the mentality of a counsellor. Grin. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Jim, All I can say is you must have had a lot of bad luck as I've never had that problem. I often run Windows update and the system runs better and those patches fixes bugs, security problems, whatever in the operating system I am running. There are cases such as the upgrade to Internet Explorer 5 to Internet Explorer 6 where that was a bad decision because Internet Explorer 6 had a number of memory leaks and bugs that were eventually resolved in Internet Explorer 7 that is why I don't run anything less than Internet Explorer 7 and I happen to have Internet Explorer 8 which comes with Windows 7 anyway. However, by and large my system doesn't go to heck when I apply patches and upgrades. So I really don't understand what happened or why your system had that problem. What I can say is you have obviously had a few bad experiences with upgrades, I can see that by the tone of your message, and now your attitude is that all upgrades are bad. The if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality. Unfortunately, that is a very very narrow view of life and computer software in general, because it totally ignores some of the good things that can come from upgrading. Weather or not you use those features or not some of us do appreciate some of the things we get by upgrading. For example, Internet Explorer 8 comes with Windows 7 out of the box. I happen to feel it is a superior product over Internet Explorer 6 for a number of reasons. There were a numbr of bugs in Internet Explorer 6 that are no longer in Internet Explorer 8, it has multitab browsing, a built in pop up blocker, amung other nice handy little features. So with multitab browsing in I.E. 8 I can have my gmail inbox open in one tab and have something like Facebook open in another. I could even create a third tab and be browsing amazon.com in still yet another tab. It allows me to browse multiple websites or look at different pages at once for various reasons which I personally think comes in handy. You don't really realise how handy a feature like that comes in handy until you have it and begin using it regularly. It is a feature that meets the needs of those of us who spend a lot of time on the internet doing this or that. Basicly, whatI am saying is that your attitude towards upgrades is similar to attitudes some women have after they come out of a bad relationship. I've got a female friend like that, and her attitude is that all men suck and are jurks. Does that make it true? Well, of course not. However, since you had afew bad upgrade experiences, for one reason or another, now your attitude that upgrading is all bad, nothing but bad, and therefore no person in their right mind would do it. Well, I'm sorry that you had those bad experiences, but that's being overly critical in my opinion. Cheers! On 7/8/10, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Ok, but still all I hear is I need the latest, latest, latest, and as I stated every time I up grade my computer it goes to heck! So I plan to use my computer the way that it is until it dies and I need to somehow buy a new computer and a screen reader that will run on it. BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] IE8 - Re: Tomb Hunter Error
Hmm. I use both of those features without even thinking about it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Dark, I have to agree with you there about separate tabs versus windows, but certainly a pop up blocker would be useful I think, and if you need to play games where pop ups are needed there should always be an option to disable and reenable the blocker when necessary. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I must confess I found six a good deal less stable than 7 or 8, which is why I've upgraded to 8 on my desktop and seven on my laptop. however, I equally find the pop up blocker irritating sinse it tends to get in the way of playing games like Sryth or warriors 2 where pop ups are needed, not to mention pop up buying forms on some websites. I also much prefer having multiple windows to multiple tabs, something I do regularly when writing news or database updates for audiogames.net where I need the page I'm editing open in one window, and a second to bring up information I need such as game links to copy etc. i must confess while I see the point of tab brousing for a sited user who can view more than one set of information on screen at once, for me I just find it irritating sinse it's easier to go betwene different open windows which are separate than different tabs. All personal preference though of course. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Thomas, The problem here is, even some sighted people don't know how to use it. Heck, I have trouble getting somebody sighted to help me do a reinstall of XP simply because they don't know how radio buttons work, etc, etc. What I'm trying to say is, while there are maybe a load of people who will benefit from the upgrade, newbies and VI users do not, and it's time more people started fighting for their rights. Like I said before, if blind people just go with the flow then how on earth are other people in this world going to be able to cater for us? Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Hayden, I'm actually glad you braught that up because that is a very good point. One I don't think many VI computer users think about since they only think about how they themselves use their computer rather than the mainstream public. As I have said many times on this list I generally work as a tech support person in my local area doing Windows upgrades, performing system restores, fixing a computer that has had a virus attack, setting up local networks for churches, whatever needs doing. The one thing I can tell you is most of the people out there running Windows XP do not use the classic desktop and classic start menu setup. Therefore that particular feature is not exactly in high demand by Microsoft's customers. The only people I hear complaining about not having that feature is VI computer users on this and other adaptive lists where so many VI computer users are unwilling to let go of the classic mode and use the default setup that comes with Windows 7 now. I don't see any reason for VI users to complain about it, because it is a fact of life and might as well accept it. As my mother-in-law always says, it is time to roll with the change. To be quite honest that is one of the reasons I really dislike working with some VI users. They have this attitude that upgrading to a new piece of software that uses a new menu system, uses ribbons instead of menus, whatever is the end of the world or something. Let's face it is not the end of the world. You can adapt, relearn to use it, if you are willing to change. Some people apparently aren't which is the problem. For those people who don't want to accept change then don't. You can run your old software, old computer, etc until it dies. It doesn't effect the rest of us who have decided to move on with life. However, if you choose to stick with the old don't complain about the rest of us who have decided to adopt new software and new ways of doing things, and don't complain if your old software or old computer isn't supported any more. You made that choice so live with it. Let's face it if you absolutely hate Windows 7 that bad there are alternatives. You can buy a Macbook with Mac OS X on it. You can buy a new Del Notebook computer already loaded with Ubuntu Linux 10 on it. You don't have to ever use Windows at all any more if you don't want too because both Mac and Linux have screen readers available as well. Maybe not Jaws quality, but they do exist and are functionally decent enough to use. Anyway, to get back to the subject of this e-mail things in the sighted world will always market to the sighted computer user first. That's a fact of life. As you said Microsoft wouldn't remove a feature if it was something truly important to a sighted majority. The classic start menu etc obviously is not as the new Windows 7 interface is easier to use if you are using it with a mouse and can see it. Therefore the classic start menu etc would be seen as a major downgrade of the user interface in the eyes of many sighted computer users. Why would they want to go back to an older and visually less user friendly interface? Cheers! On 7/9/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I believe I've heard that =myself. What I'd like to know is, how, in any way, did it benefit Microsoft to take it out in 7? If people love that fresh new interface, then they'll use it. The classic Start Menu is In nobody's way who doesn't want it there. I wonder how many people use XP who don't even know about the thing. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web,
[Audyssey] Help with Palace Punch-up
Hi I can't find the help document for Palace Punch-up, I've looked in the folder but all it has is the options to play the game, to view it on the web or unenstall, but no help document that I can find. Also I found when in the sounds menu if I want to return to main menu I press enter and although the music keeps playing the game freezes on me and I have to put my computer off completely. Anyone would like to help me, before I become the online punching terror? Smile --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
That's it. They should have left it in as an option for those who do want it. For those who don't, they don't have to use it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, I believe I've heard that =myself. What I'd like to know is, how, in any way, did it benefit Microsoft to take it out in 7? If people love that fresh new interface, then they'll use it. The classic Start Menu is In nobody's way who doesn't want it there. I wonder how many people use XP who don't even know about the thing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hello, As far as I know vista did have an optional classic start menu, but they took that feature out in windows seven. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net, Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, Well, Vista didn't have a classic mode either. So I guess I had two or three years to get use to it. However, it isn't all doom and gloom. You can certainly change certain aspects of the new start menu to clean up some of the clutter people are talking about. Smile. On 7/8/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: That! really! stinks! --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] anyone else noticing? - Re: Upcoming BGT version
I'm getting triplicates of your messages, but nobody else's. You might want to check into it if others are also getting these? Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Philip Bennefall' phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Upcoming BGT version Hi Phillip, That's definitely understandable, I can definitely wait. It would probably make a largerinstall package anyway, it amazes me that it is as small as it is. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with Palace Punch-up
Hi Lori, This was a mistake in the setup program, it did not create the icon for the manual in the program group. If you download and install it again, the problem will be fixed. However I am currently clueless as to the cause of the freezing error you report, I've never had that happen on this end. Please try it a few more times and see if it always happens, and if it does then please send me an email privately and I'll try to resolve it with you. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Help with Palace Punch-up Hi I can't find the help document for Palace Punch-up, I've looked in the folder but all it has is the options to play the game, to view it on the web or unenstall, but no help document that I can find. Also I found when in the sounds menu if I want to return to main menu I press enter and although the music keeps playing the game freezes on me and I have to put my computer off completely. Anyone would like to help me, before I become the online punching terror? Smile --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help with Palace Punch-up
Cheers will try that and let you know. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with Palace Punch-up Hi Lori, This was a mistake in the setup program, it did not create the icon for the manual in the program group. If you download and install it again, the problem will be fixed. However I am currently clueless as to the cause of the freezing error you report, I've never had that happen on this end. Please try it a few more times and see if it always happens, and if it does then please send me an email privately and I'll try to resolve it with you. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Help with Palace Punch-up Hi I can't find the help document for Palace Punch-up, I've looked in the folder but all it has is the options to play the game, to view it on the web or unenstall, but no help document that I can find. Also I found when in the sounds menu if I want to return to main menu I press enter and although the music keeps playing the game freezes on me and I have to put my computer off completely. Anyone would like to help me, before I become the online punching terror? Smile --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
I deffinately agree tom, there isn't much point in either complaning of a changing interface or of refusing to upgrade. However, there is another side to the coin. Suppose there was a building which had previously had a ramp to the front door. After some rebuilding work, the ramp was replaced with a flight of steps, and if a wheel chair user wanted to enter the building they were required to make a five minute detour around the building to the back. Yes, the building is stil accessable, and no, it wouldn't bennifit anyone for someone in a wheel chair to refuse to use it, however in removing steps to the front door, the building's owners have increased the amount of time, effort and trouble which wheel chair users need to get into the building. this is how I view a lot of interface changes. Yes, they are stil accessible, however because of using ribbons with fewer hotkeys, increasing the amount of on screen information and context sensative information thus making the interface more cluttered and difficult to navigate, microsoft (or any designer), have increased the amount of time and effort necessary to use their application. In Xp, I have customized the menues and setup to work in the way I personally want them. I have removed all the clutter and created subfolders short cuts and directories which both are relevant to my own computer use, and specifically tailered to navigating more quickly using Hal. In windows 7 however from what I understand, this amount of customization is much less possible sinse the menue structure is basically different from the classic layout. The same may be said for the ribbon structure in office 2007. is it useable? yes, but with more effort, and with less access to customizing the interface because, as I might say in a typical display of microsoft thinking, people are not expected to customize their own interface but use the provided context sensative menues and search boxes instead. I am in no way saying I refuse to upgrade my system when the time comes, only that it will take more effort because the interface is so much less customizable, and because microsoft are not concerned with making the lives of Vi computer users in any way easier or less concerned with effort. I fully agree there is litle point saying I reffuse or attempting to only use older versions because odds are compatibility issues will come up, however I do think there are legitimate grounds for complaint, albeit the complaining isn't exactly productive. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
There is, but I just found it too irritating suddenly realizing a given game would need a popup. Pluss Hal has a great way of checking if something is a bad popup or not anyway by just hitting the read status bar key, sinse if it doesn't come up with something sensable it's an add and you can just hit alt F4. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Dark, I have to agree with you there about separate tabs versus windows, but certainly a pop up blocker would be useful I think, and if you need to play games where pop ups are needed there should always be an option to disable and reenable the blocker when necessary. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I must confess I found six a good deal less stable than 7 or 8, which is why I've upgraded to 8 on my desktop and seven on my laptop. however, I equally find the pop up blocker irritating sinse it tends to get in the way of playing games like Sryth or warriors 2 where pop ups are needed, not to mention pop up buying forms on some websites. I also much prefer having multiple windows to multiple tabs, something I do regularly when writing news or database updates for audiogames.net where I need the page I'm editing open in one window, and a second to bring up information I need such as game links to copy etc. i must confess while I see the point of tab brousing for a sited user who can view more than one set of information on screen at once, for me I just find it irritating sinse it's easier to go betwene different open windows which are separate than different tabs. All personal preference though of course. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
I agree charles, goodness knows what my Dad, my tutor or some other computer novices will do with windows 7. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error That's it. They should have left it in as an option for those who do want it. For those who don't, they don't have to use it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, I believe I've heard that =myself. What I'd like to know is, how, in any way, did it benefit Microsoft to take it out in 7? If people love that fresh new interface, then they'll use it. The classic Start Menu is In nobody's way who doesn't want it there. I wonder how many people use XP who don't even know about the thing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hello, As far as I know vista did have an optional classic start menu, but they took that feature out in windows seven. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net, Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi, Well, Vista didn't have a classic mode either. So I guess I had two or three years to get use to it. However, it isn't all doom and gloom. You can certainly change certain aspects of the new start menu to clean up some of the clutter people are talking about. Smile. On 7/8/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: That! really! stinks! --- Shepherds are the best beasts! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Excellent analogy! --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I deffinately agree tom, there isn't much point in either complaning of a changing interface or of refusing to upgrade. However, there is another side to the coin. Suppose there was a building which had previously had a ramp to the front door. After some rebuilding work, the ramp was replaced with a flight of steps, and if a wheel chair user wanted to enter the building they were required to make a five minute detour around the building to the back. Yes, the building is stil accessable, and no, it wouldn't bennifit anyone for someone in a wheel chair to refuse to use it, however in removing steps to the front door, the building's owners have increased the amount of time, effort and trouble which wheel chair users need to get into the building. this is how I view a lot of interface changes. Yes, they are stil accessible, however because of using ribbons with fewer hotkeys, increasing the amount of on screen information and context sensative information thus making the interface more cluttered and difficult to navigate, microsoft (or any designer), have increased the amount of time and effort necessary to use their application. In Xp, I have customized the menues and setup to work in the way I personally want them. I have removed all the clutter and created subfolders short cuts and directories which both are relevant to my own computer use, and specifically tailered to navigating more quickly using Hal. In windows 7 however from what I understand, this amount of customization is much less possible sinse the menue structure is basically different from the classic layout. The same may be said for the ribbon structure in office 2007. is it useable? yes, but with more effort, and with less access to customizing the interface because, as I might say in a typical display of microsoft thinking, people are not expected to customize their own interface but use the provided context sensative menues and search boxes instead. I am in no way saying I refuse to upgrade my system when the time comes, only that it will take more effort because the interface is so much less customizable, and because microsoft are not concerned with making the lives of Vi computer users in any way easier or less concerned with effort. I fully agree there is litle point saying I reffuse or attempting to only use older versions because odds are compatibility issues will come up, however I do think there are legitimate grounds for complaint, albeit the complaining isn't exactly productive. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Hi there, Dark: No, that is a term of phrase that has never featured in my vocabulary. Grin. Lori: If you go grab the setup yet again now, I have inserted a safety check which should make it totally impossible for it to get stuck. I'll be looking forward to getting some punching opponents soon, once people are familiar with the game. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
In IE 8, there is. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Dark, I have to agree with you there about separate tabs versus windows, but certainly a pop up blocker would be useful I think, and if you need to play games where pop ups are needed there should always be an option to disable and reenable the blocker when necessary. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I must confess I found six a good deal less stable than 7 or 8, which is why I've upgraded to 8 on my desktop and seven on my laptop. however, I equally find the pop up blocker irritating sinse it tends to get in the way of playing games like Sryth or warriors 2 where pop ups are needed, not to mention pop up buying forms on some websites. I also much prefer having multiple windows to multiple tabs, something I do regularly when writing news or database updates for audiogames.net where I need the page I'm editing open in one window, and a second to bring up information I need such as game links to copy etc. i must confess while I see the point of tab brousing for a sited user who can view more than one set of information on screen at once, for me I just find it irritating sinse it's easier to go betwene different open windows which are separate than different tabs. All personal preference though of course. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Nice job Phill! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5265 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5265 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hello Jim, Ok, now you have seriously made me angry. You said, I do understand a person's personal choice to run the latest greatest hugest new software, but in Thomas's case he is also forcing his prospective customers to do the same. That is an absolute and total falsehood. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you shoot off your mouth as that is not true. So here are the facts. Number one, my Genesis Engine uses DirectX 8.1. That is absolutely not the latest version of DirectX, and one reason I chose to do that instead of use DirectX 9 or higher is because it comes with every PC with Windows XP on up to Windows 7. Not only that DirectX 8.1 has proven itself to be very stable, and still is the standard DirectX version supported by many mainstream games and game companies. I doubt I'm going to upgrade to DirectX 9 or higher until things like XAudio2 become more common and have been proven to be a stable game development API. Number two, my games will run on Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 equally well. The only thing you need is a 6 MB Visual C++ update that can be installed on any PC running Windows 2000 SP4 or higher. The way you are acting here is like everyone must be running Windows 7 or something to run my games which is totally false. The only thing you need for Windows XP is a couple small Windows patches/updates which is not too much to ask in my opinion. If you can't stand installing a few common Windows dll files then please don't play my games. I don't have any time or patients to put up with this irronious attitude of yours that you have to have the latest and greatest everything to play my games as you are gravely mistaken. Number three, although my Genesis Engine does support a virtual 3d environment guess what? In the settings menu of the fps version of Mysteries of the Ancients there is a sound card option that allows you to use virtual 3d or stereo panning. Why on earth would I do something like that hm? Oh, it couldn't be that I understand that not all VI gamers have a high end sound card like Soundblaster Audigy Pro and might have to reconfigure the game to use a lower end sound card with only basic stereo output rather than virtual 3d audio output? Oh, It wouldn't happen to be I know not everyone has a 5.1 speaker setup and only use my games with stereo headphones so need a 2d stereo configuration setup for audio? The fact of the matter is Jim I bend over backwards to try and meet my customers needs to design games that will work for everyone. Yes, if that means I have to use newer Windows dll files to make my games more stable for Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 I will do it. However, you can not sit there and expect me to use older libraries just because users like yourself are too darn stubern or too afraid of blowing his/her computer up by installing a 6 MB patch that updates a few common Windows libraries. I'm sorry to say but in my opinion that is just being thick headed, stupid, and too stubern to change even if it might actually improve things for you and make a slightly more stable and better product in the long run. Finally, there is one other thing to take in account here. You have mentioned many times you like Visual Basic 6 and like Windows XP and are happy with it. That's fine as far as it goes, but I don't think you personally care if your games run on Windows 7 or whatever comes after Windows 7 because you have no plans to upgrade etc. Well, some of us do care about such things. I realize that Windows XP isn't going to be around forever so I have chosen to adopt a programming standard that hopefully will be compatible with both new and older Windows releases for some time to come. Once and a while that may mean upgrading or adopting a newer API or dll file that maintains some level of compatibility with XP all the way up to Windows 7 and beyond. I'm not forcing you or anyone to upgrade to the absolutely latest Windows release out there. I'm only making it possible that if you or anyone else wants to upgrade you will be able to run my products just as well on the newer Windows releases as you did on your previous release. Now, tell me what is so wrong with this approach? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Oh dear I just looked at the online section of the manual, don't have a clue about this I.P stuff, I only know I'm running outlook express Smile - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi there, Dark: No, that is a term of phrase that has never featured in my vocabulary. Grin. Lori: If you go grab the setup yet again now, I have inserted a safety check which should make it totally impossible for it to get stuck. I'll be looking forward to getting some punching opponents soon, once people are familiar with the game. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Tom: I'll tell you what is wrong with your approach from the viewpoint of an XP user in two words. Absolutely nothing. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hello Jim, Ok, now you have seriously made me angry. You said, I do understand a person's personal choice to run the latest greatest hugest new software, but in Thomas's case he is also forcing his prospective customers to do the same. That is an absolute and total falsehood. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you shoot off your mouth as that is not true. So here are the facts. Number one, my Genesis Engine uses DirectX 8.1. That is absolutely not the latest version of DirectX, and one reason I chose to do that instead of use DirectX 9 or higher is because it comes with every PC with Windows XP on up to Windows 7. Not only that DirectX 8.1 has proven itself to be very stable, and still is the standard DirectX version supported by many mainstream games and game companies. I doubt I'm going to upgrade to DirectX 9 or higher until things like XAudio2 become more common and have been proven to be a stable game development API. Number two, my games will run on Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 equally well. The only thing you need is a 6 MB Visual C++ update that can be installed on any PC running Windows 2000 SP4 or higher. The way you are acting here is like everyone must be running Windows 7 or something to run my games which is totally false. The only thing you need for Windows XP is a couple small Windows patches/updates which is not too much to ask in my opinion. If you can't stand installing a few common Windows dll files then please don't play my games. I don't have any time or patients to put up with this irronious attitude of yours that you have to have the latest and greatest everything to play my games as you are gravely mistaken. Number three, although my Genesis Engine does support a virtual 3d environment guess what? In the settings menu of the fps version of Mysteries of the Ancients there is a sound card option that allows you to use virtual 3d or stereo panning. Why on earth would I do something like that hm? Oh, it couldn't be that I understand that not all VI gamers have a high end sound card like Soundblaster Audigy Pro and might have to reconfigure the game to use a lower end sound card with only basic stereo output rather than virtual 3d audio output? Oh, It wouldn't happen to be I know not everyone has a 5.1 speaker setup and only use my games with stereo headphones so need a 2d stereo configuration setup for audio? The fact of the matter is Jim I bend over backwards to try and meet my customers needs to design games that will work for everyone. Yes, if that means I have to use newer Windows dll files to make my games more stable for Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 I will do it. However, you can not sit there and expect me to use older libraries just because users like yourself are too darn stubern or too afraid of blowing his/her computer up by installing a 6 MB patch that updates a few common Windows libraries. I'm sorry to say but in my opinion that is just being thick headed, stupid, and too stubern to change even if it might actually improve things for you and make a slightly more stable and better product in the long run. Finally, there is one other thing to take in account here. You have mentioned many times you like Visual Basic 6 and like Windows XP and are happy with it. That's fine as far as it goes, but I don't think you personally care if your games run on Windows 7 or whatever comes after Windows 7 because you have no plans to upgrade etc. Well, some of us do care about such things. I realize that Windows XP isn't going to be around forever so I have chosen to adopt a programming standard that hopefully will be compatible with both new and older Windows releases for some time to come. Once and a while that may mean upgrading or adopting a newer API or dll file that maintains some level of compatibility with XP all the way up to Windows 7 and beyond. I'm not forcing you or anyone to upgrade to the absolutely latest Windows release out there. I'm only making it possible that if you or anyone else wants to upgrade you will be able to run my products just as well on the newer Windows releases as you did on your previous release. Now, tell me what is so wrong with this approach? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi, I think sighted people should blindfold themselves, use their computer from a blind person's perspective, and team up with us to petition companies (not just computer companies either) to stop being so heartless and make things more accessible for us. Then we'll certainly have backup for the future of our prejudiced world and stamp on the attitude of majority can enjoy themselves and minority can stuff it and struggle. I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me there, I know my partner definitely does. Otherwise they are breaking various legislative acts regarding disability discrimination. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error I deffinately agree tom, there isn't much point in either complaning of a changing interface or of refusing to upgrade. However, there is another side to the coin. Suppose there was a building which had previously had a ramp to the front door. After some rebuilding work, the ramp was replaced with a flight of steps, and if a wheel chair user wanted to enter the building they were required to make a five minute detour around the building to the back. Yes, the building is stil accessable, and no, it wouldn't bennifit anyone for someone in a wheel chair to refuse to use it, however in removing steps to the front door, the building's owners have increased the amount of time, effort and trouble which wheel chair users need to get into the building. this is how I view a lot of interface changes. Yes, they are stil accessible, however because of using ribbons with fewer hotkeys, increasing the amount of on screen information and context sensative information thus making the interface more cluttered and difficult to navigate, microsoft (or any designer), have increased the amount of time and effort necessary to use their application. In Xp, I have customized the menues and setup to work in the way I personally want them. I have removed all the clutter and created subfolders short cuts and directories which both are relevant to my own computer use, and specifically tailered to navigating more quickly using Hal. In windows 7 however from what I understand, this amount of customization is much less possible sinse the menue structure is basically different from the classic layout. The same may be said for the ribbon structure in office 2007. is it useable? yes, but with more effort, and with less access to customizing the interface because, as I might say in a typical display of microsoft thinking, people are not expected to customize their own interface but use the provided context sensative menues and search boxes instead. I am in no way saying I refuse to upgrade my system when the time comes, only that it will take more effort because the interface is so much less customizable, and because microsoft are not concerned with making the lives of Vi computer users in any way easier or less concerned with effort. I fully agree there is litle point saying I reffuse or attempting to only use older versions because odds are compatibility issues will come up, however I do think there are legitimate grounds for complaint, albeit the complaining isn't exactly productive. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] PALACE PUNCH UP ISSUE
hi Philip, I was playing palace punch up with a friend and all from sudden we both couldn't throw any rocks. we heard the woosh woosh sound but nothing happend even though we were on an undamaged square. - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.tmantv.net __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] PALACE PUNCH UP ISSUE
Hi Peter, That is very strange. This usually only happens if the connection is lost somehow. Could you hear each other's footsteps still? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: [Audyssey] PALACE PUNCH UP ISSUE hi Philip, I was playing palace punch up with a friend and all from sudden we both couldn't throw any rocks. we heard the woosh woosh sound but nothing happend even though we were on an undamaged square. - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.tmantv.net __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Hello. Really col game, as i said before, i like this idea, cause i like a 2d games, especially with HQ sounds and music, and original concept. It's a free tittle, but if you want updating it, i think good will be add some new content, like bonus things, to get game longer, and more complex. I think it's not big problem to put inside more great things, and for you and your imagine will be OK. Again, good job! Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] PALACE PUNCH UP ISSUE
Hi I was playing iwht peter. Yes, we could, we could hear everything, but not fire. Kevin - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:33:23 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PALACE PUNCH UP ISSUE Hi Peter, That is very strange. This usually only happens if the connection is lost somehow. Could you hear each other's footsteps still? Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:20 PM Subject: [Audyssey] PALACE PUNCH UP ISSUE hi Philip, I was playing palace punch up with a friend and all from sudden we both couldn't throw any rocks. we heard the woosh woosh sound but nothing happend even though we were on an undamaged square. - Peter Mahach |piterm...@gmail.com msn: pitermac...@hotmail.com skype (not very often): pitermach twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pitermach webpage: http://pmsworld.tmantv.net __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
The problem is damian, even in countries like the Us who have a pretty good disability reccord the legal requirements for a computer system, building, book, or anything else to be accessible are solely based on whether it can! be used by a disabled person, not on how much effort it takes. This is actually one thing I hope my phd thesis will highlight, that a large percentage of what defigns any disability is not merely be able to do or not do something, but how much effort it takes, and that this should be practically recognized in lore and public life. however, unless I manage to end up on some sort of governmental focus group working to draught disability legislation, I can't really see this making overly much difference, especially to huge, multinational coorperations such a Microsoft who are basically above the law anyway, just look at the treatment of their workers in many parts of the world. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
I couldn't agree more Thomas. I don't even have the, as Jim put it, Latest and greatest everything, and MOTA runs just fine on my machine. Heck, I don't even have Windows 7, nor do I know when I'll be able to upgrade. In fact I seem to recall MOTA running just fine on my old XP machine which died about a year ago. So while I understand Jim's apprehension I definitely don't see the alleged forcing he mentions. I wouldn't be surprised if he installed those few add-ons and updates which I don't recall requiring much space, downloaded and installed MOTA and it ran just fine for him. THen if he really didn't like the game he could always uninstall it and no harm done. So I can definitely understand your frustration here. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error Hello Jim, Ok, now you have seriously made me angry. You said, I do understand a person's personal choice to run the latest greatest hugest new software, but in Thomas's case he is also forcing his prospective customers to do the same. That is an absolute and total falsehood. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you shoot off your mouth as that is not true. So here are the facts. Number one, my Genesis Engine uses DirectX 8.1. That is absolutely not the latest version of DirectX, and one reason I chose to do that instead of use DirectX 9 or higher is because it comes with every PC with Windows XP on up to Windows 7. Not only that DirectX 8.1 has proven itself to be very stable, and still is the standard DirectX version supported by many mainstream games and game companies. I doubt I'm going to upgrade to DirectX 9 or higher until things like XAudio2 become more common and have been proven to be a stable game development API. Number two, my games will run on Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 equally well. The only thing you need is a 6 MB Visual C++ update that can be installed on any PC running Windows 2000 SP4 or higher. The way you are acting here is like everyone must be running Windows 7 or something to run my games which is totally false. The only thing you need for Windows XP is a couple small Windows patches/updates which is not too much to ask in my opinion. If you can't stand installing a few common Windows dll files then please don't play my games. I don't have any time or patients to put up with this irronious attitude of yours that you have to have the latest and greatest everything to play my games as you are gravely mistaken. Number three, although my Genesis Engine does support a virtual 3d environment guess what? In the settings menu of the fps version of Mysteries of the Ancients there is a sound card option that allows you to use virtual 3d or stereo panning. Why on earth would I do something like that hm? Oh, it couldn't be that I understand that not all VI gamers have a high end sound card like Soundblaster Audigy Pro and might have to reconfigure the game to use a lower end sound card with only basic stereo output rather than virtual 3d audio output? Oh, It wouldn't happen to be I know not everyone has a 5.1 speaker setup and only use my games with stereo headphones so need a 2d stereo configuration setup for audio? The fact of the matter is Jim I bend over backwards to try and meet my customers needs to design games that will work for everyone. Yes, if that means I have to use newer Windows dll files to make my games more stable for Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 I will do it. However, you can not sit there and expect me to use older libraries just because users like yourself are too darn stubern or too afraid of blowing his/her computer up by installing a 6 MB patch that updates a few common Windows libraries. I'm sorry to say but in my opinion that is just being thick headed, stupid, and too stubern to change even if it might actually improve things for you and make a slightly more stable and better product in the long run. Finally, there is one other thing to take in account here. You have mentioned many times you like Visual Basic 6 and like Windows XP and are happy with it. That's fine as far as it goes, but I don't think you personally care if your games run on Windows 7 or whatever comes after Windows 7 because you have no plans to upgrade etc. Well, some of us do care about such things. I realize that Windows XP isn't going to be around forever so I have chosen to adopt a programming standard that hopefully will be compatible with both new and older Windows releases for some time to come. Once and a while that may mean upgrading or adopting a newer API or dll file that maintains some level of compatibility with XP all the way up to Windows 7 and beyond. I'm not forcing you or anyone to upgrade to the absolutely latest Windows release out there. I'm only making it possible
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Hey Lori, The good news is that this IP stuff is pretty simple to get your head around, at least, in this context it is. Your IP is simply a string of numbers that identifies your computer to anything you might want to connect too. Every computer with any sort of network interface has one, and in the case of internet conectivity your IP is usually automatically assigned by your service provider, and will likely change from time to time when you reconnect. There are ways of keeping it the same at all times, they call that a static IP, but you'll know if that applies to you because chances are you'll be being charged for the privilage lol. So, to find out what your current IP is, just go to www.whatismyip.com. Near the top of that page, you'll find a line that displays your current IP. For example, mine is currently 188.223.43.44. Palace Punch-up connects two computers. So, if you're hosting the game, you just need to check your current IP at www.whatismyip.com, and give that number to whoever you want to be able to connect to you. If someone else is acting as host, just ask for there IP, choose to join a game, and paste it there. It's worth noting that the first time you play online, Windows Firewall will likely throw a warning up at you that Palace Punch-up is trying to access the internet. So far as I can tell, Philip isn't an evil crime lord who'll hack your computer, rob your identity, sell your data, or do anything along those exciting lines, so your probably safe to click Allow. If you're still stuck, just shout... Scott On 7/9/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Oh dear I just looked at the online section of the manual, don't have a clue about this I.P stuff, I only know I'm running outlook express Smile - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi there, Dark: No, that is a term of phrase that has never featured in my vocabulary. Grin. Lori: If you go grab the setup yet again now, I have inserted a safety check which should make it totally impossible for it to get stuck. I'll be looking forward to getting some punching opponents soon, once people are familiar with the game. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Bonus bombs? - Original Message - From: lirin seal11...@gmail.com To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hello. Really col game, as i said before, i like this idea, cause i like a 2d games, especially with HQ sounds and music, and original concept. It's a free tittle, but if you want updating it, i think good will be add some new content, like bonus things, to get game longer, and more complex. I think it's not big problem to put inside more great things, and for you and your imagine will be OK. Again, good job! Best regards Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Hi, And if someone wants to play me, mind that I never lost against the offline oponent on the suecidal match yet, then join me in msn at the address: weis...@hotmail.de or twitter at kevinweisi - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com, Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:52:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hey Lori, The good news is that this IP stuff is pretty simple to get your head around, at least, in this context it is. Your IP is simply a string of numbers that identifies your computer to anything you might want to connect too. Every computer with any sort of network interface has one, and in the case of internet conectivity your IP is usually automatically assigned by your service provider, and will likely change from time to time when you reconnect. There are ways of keeping it the same at all times, they call that a static IP, but you'll know if that applies to you because chances are you'll be being charged for the privilage lol. So, to find out what your current IP is, just go to www.whatismyip.com. Near the top of that page, you'll find a line that displays your current IP. For example, mine is currently 188.223.43.44. Palace Punch-up connects two computers. So, if you're hosting the game, you just need to check your current IP at www.whatismyip.com, and give that number to whoever you want to be able to connect to you. If someone else is acting as host, just ask for there IP, choose to join a game, and paste it there. It's worth noting that the first time you play online, Windows Firewall will likely throw a warning up at you that Palace Punch-up is trying to access the internet. So far as I can tell, Philip isn't an evil crime lord who'll hack your computer, rob your identity, sell your data, or do anything along those exciting lines, so your probably safe to click Allow. If you're still stuck, just shout... Scott On 7/9/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Oh dear I just looked at the online section of the manual, don't have a clue about this I.P stuff, I only know I'm running outlook express Smile - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi there, Dark: No, that is a term of phrase that has never featured in my vocabulary. Grin. Lori: If you go grab the setup yet again now, I have inserted a safety check which should make it totally impossible for it to get stuck. I'll be looking forward to getting some punching opponents soon, once people are familiar with the game. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Aurira Blind Newbie Experiment
Hi Zack, I'm definitely interested in your reports on this. I just patched my game to v5.14, now i'm off to the forums to learn what I can. Any insights or suggestions appreciated from here. Thanks. Dave. On 7/7/10, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi All, My current game of aurora is entitled Blind Newbie Experiment. It's pretty much what that title implies: I'm a newbie experimenting to see how well I can get Aurora to work for us blind folk. One thing that occured to me was that some kind of after-action report with an accessibility emphasis might not be out of order. I'll describe what's going on, what I'm doing and how the access works as I go along. I was just wondering what kind of interest there might be in such a thing? I could post periodic updates if it was high enough. Any thoughts? Best, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question about how to change sappy voice in punch up
Hi all. I have a question about how to change the sappy voice in punch up? right now I am using the horrible Sam voice and would like to use a female voice but I am not sure how to change it. any help with this would be grate. I am using jaws 7 and windows xp if that helps. I also have installed the different voices from the jaws users sight. I hope to hear back from some one regarding this. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Game Modding was StarTrek Games
There was one that demonstrated a fake battle with a wolf and that had tomb rader style music I think... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 13 June 2010 20:54 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Modding was StarTrek Games Hi Ben, The first preview of MOTA had nothing close to Awesome Battle Music. However, if you're talking about MOTA BETA 10 (forgive me as I may have missed the first preview, though I do not think so) had excellent music in the preview. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:33 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Modding was StarTrek Games Tom, I wish to make a question proposal. Where did you find that awesome battle music released in one of the first previews of mota? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 12 June 2010 23:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Game Modding was StarTrek Games Hi Charles, Yes, and there is another more serious issue here to consider. With copyrights involved some game mods might not be strictly legal since I figure the average gamer out there isn't too particular about what copyrights are attatched to sounds, music, and game characters, etc. They may accidently create a mod that would result in the creator of said game to get in trouble if not themselves as well for ripping the sounds and music in the first place. For instance it is a well known fact Mysteries of the Ancients was written in the style and spirit of Tomb Raider. No doubt about it. It could be easily modded with official Tomb Raider sounds and music essentially turning it into an unofficial accessible Tomb Raider game. I've actually done that myself. However, such a mod released to the public could result in fines being served up for copyright infringement. That's not exactly something anyone really wants here. On 6/12/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If I were able to change your game into one that I like better, changing the characters, theme, music, and whatever else I liked better, and then someone got a copy of your modified game, thinking that it was your creation, they might not buy anything more from you because the did not like what you had produced. That would be totally bogus! A lot of gamers base future purchases on prior work, and this might hurt your business. Even if I put disclaimers with my modifications, they still might unfairly judge you on my modifying. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9
I can't get it working: my wave output works, but my mic works when I enable what you here... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: 13 June 2010 20:55 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 Hi Ben, Hmmm...that would be interesting, although before you do so I suggest you make sure your sterio mix/wave out mix/what you hear is working correctly. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:14 AM To: 'Lori Duncan'; 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 Got q9 from Philip himself the day it came out and beat it a week later. If anyone wants, I'll do a full review of the game. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lori Duncan Sent: 13 June 2010 12:28 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 I tend to run out of panick and because I thought if I did I might avoide some things by running and jumping a lot. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 hmph. I wander if this was my origional issue. I never thought to not run during the game in any level. Therefore I wander the reason I am losing all the time is because I run. if this is so then I won't run at all and just see if I can do those levels. At 09:08 a.m. 13/06/2010, you wrote: Probably nothing important. As for your question though, you may well have to start over since you should save as many shields as possible for the death world, particularly levels two and three. My advice is don't hurry. Since monsters seem to be triggered at certain spots if you try to run you'll have more monsters after you than if you move more slowly. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Has anyone actually managed to beat Q-9 Hi the subject line says it all! I've tried and tried but just can't seem to do it! I had 16 lives and am down to 12, even so I'm wondering if I should keep going or not, because A I want to win, and B I don't want to start over again until I've beaten the game at least once. I'm playing in easy mode, so I'd like to see insane. Smile While I love the game, sounds and music and first class voice acting I just want to win Any tips on getting through Death World? I've got a couple shields, and keep using them, but don't think i have enough to see me through the game. I'm only on level1 of Death world it's the fartherest I've gotten. Hope someone can give me a hand in the right direction. Thanks from Lori. I'm off to kick some demon! By the way, does anyone know what those horror demons are supposed to be saying? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released!
Hi Scott and all, A small tip here: If you don't want to read the advertisements and other insignificant stuff on the whatismyip.com page, you can simply use whatismyip.org and it will simply bring up your IP address. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hey Lori, The good news is that this IP stuff is pretty simple to get your head around, at least, in this context it is. Your IP is simply a string of numbers that identifies your computer to anything you might want to connect too. Every computer with any sort of network interface has one, and in the case of internet conectivity your IP is usually automatically assigned by your service provider, and will likely change from time to time when you reconnect. There are ways of keeping it the same at all times, they call that a static IP, but you'll know if that applies to you because chances are you'll be being charged for the privilage lol. So, to find out what your current IP is, just go to www.whatismyip.com. Near the top of that page, you'll find a line that displays your current IP. For example, mine is currently 188.223.43.44. Palace Punch-up connects two computers. So, if you're hosting the game, you just need to check your current IP at www.whatismyip.com, and give that number to whoever you want to be able to connect to you. If someone else is acting as host, just ask for there IP, choose to join a game, and paste it there. It's worth noting that the first time you play online, Windows Firewall will likely throw a warning up at you that Palace Punch-up is trying to access the internet. So far as I can tell, Philip isn't an evil crime lord who'll hack your computer, rob your identity, sell your data, or do anything along those exciting lines, so your probably safe to click Allow. If you're still stuck, just shout... Scott On 7/9/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Oh dear I just looked at the online section of the manual, don't have a clue about this I.P stuff, I only know I'm running outlook express Smile - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi there, Dark: No, that is a term of phrase that has never featured in my vocabulary. Grin. Lori: If you go grab the setup yet again now, I have inserted a safety check which should make it totally impossible for it to get stuck. I'll be looking forward to getting some punching opponents soon, once people are familiar with the game. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! It's cool, just picture your worst enimie living in that palace then go get them! How are you Philip after that intro punch? Smile - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Yee gods philip that was quick! Ever heard of the pleasures of anticipation? ;D. I'll look forward to trying it out. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Palace Punch-up Released! Hi everyone, I am happy to announce the release of Palace Punch-up, an arcade/action game where your objective is to break your opponent's palace into a pile of debris by throwing rocks at it. At the same time, of course, you have to protect your own palace from suffering the same unhappy end. This game is freeware, and can be played both against the computer and against a human opponent over the internet, on six difficulty levels. Head over to blastbay.com and grab your copy today! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] question about how to change sappy voice in punch up
Hi Mich, You have to change your SAPI voice through the Control Panel in Speech Settings, Text to Speech tab. Hope that helps. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: gamers @audyssey.org gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] question about how to change sappy voice in punch up Hi all. I have a question about how to change the sappy voice in punch up? right now I am using the horrible Sam voice and would like to use a female voice but I am not sure how to change it. any help with this would be grate. I am using jaws 7 and windows xp if that helps. I also have installed the different voices from the jaws users sight. I hope to hear back from some one regarding this. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Damien, Ok, I think before you can really understand my opinion, where I am coming from, I think you and the others need to know something about me personally. My life experiences, what I do for a living, etc all have help shaped my opinion on this issue and may seam rather drastic or extreme compared to your own opinions as a result. Never-the-less who I am and what I believe is none-the-less the sum total of my life experiences with working on computers over many years both as a sighted user and as a blind user. For starters back in the mid 1990's I began using Windows 3.1 and later Windows 95 when I still had some useful vision remaining. Eventually around 95 my vision got too bad to be able to read the text clearly so I got Jaws to read the text on the screen but I could still see a dialog box, buttons, check boxes, etc even if I couldn't actually read the text on the screen. As a result I got enough experience with Windows to use it as a sighted user uses it for a little while and completely understand where they are coming from on this issue from a visual point of view. However, for the past 12 years or so I have been totally blind and totally dependant on Jaws or Window-Eyes to use my computer. As a result I also know full well what it is like to use a computer from a blind man's point of view. It is a totally different experience when things that are visually friendly are not exactly blind friendly, because how we operate computers are inharently different a lot of the time. For example, when Jaws or Window-Eyes reads a web page the screen reader often reformats it so that it is contextually more understandable than the way it is visually being shown on screen. This is certainly not bad in most cases, but it also makes a big difference between the way we understand the layout of a web page and the way it actually is. So if someone tries to describe where something is on screen or we try and tell them there is a lot of room for confusion because the way a blind person and a sighted person view that web page, dialog box, whatever is completely different because how it is shown and described to us via our screen reader. I think because I started using computers as a sighted user, not a blind user, I'd prefer to be able to operate my system in amanner a sighted person does rather than have special accessibility modes, be able to use classic mode, whatever as that is contrary to what the sighted user does. I think to truly be equal with our sighted peers we need to be able to interact with our computers just like they do, and make the default way of doing things as accessible as possible. For that reason I force myself to learn how they operate the computer, use the more visually friendly start menu, etc so I can be equal with them as much as possible. Since the new Windows 7 start menu is fully accessible anyway I don't see going back to a classic start menu as a big deal. What you are calling your rights I see nothing more as a want. It is a want because it is what you are use to for the past 15 years, what you like, etc and has absolutely nothing to do with accessibility what so ever in this case. The other important reason I feel this way has to do with my job. While most people on list know I am a programmer most of the time I make money by doing general tech support work locally. Since all of my customers are sighted, not blind, i have to be able to relate to them as a sighted user and not as a blind user. For that reason if I am doing a tech support call I might tell the client to double left click on this, right click that, or select this or that from the control panel etc. It would make no sense for me to give them directions using hundreds of hot keys they don't know, or give them directions based on classic view settings as most sighted computers aren't setup that way to begin with. I quite litterally have to know and understand how the clients operate their computers, from a purely sighted point of view, to help them. For example, Windows Vista has a web view and a classic view for the Windows control panel. While I personally like the classic control panel myself that's not going to do me any good if I am talking to a client on the phone that has Windows Vista configured using the default web view. I still need to be able to tell them where to go and what link to click on to bring this or that setting up etc. Therefore as a blind tech support specialist I have to work in a sighted man's world everyday and can't afford to let my own personal likes/dislikes get in the way of how my clients' computer is setup and operated. So I generally configure my computer the same way they do so I am familiar with what they need help with, and I am also in my own way equal with them too. I am interacting with my computer as a sighted user does, as much as possible, and that makes me feel good. Finally, there is a time when configuring or formatting something for accessibility and not doing so is
Re: [Audyssey] question about how to change sappy voice in punch up
Hi if you go into your control pannel in the start menu, then press the S key until you get to Speach then find the Text to Speach page and you should be able to change the voice from there. Once you find the one you want just go to Apply then the OK and it should be changed. - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: gamers @audyssey.org gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] question about how to change sappy voice in punch up Hi all. I have a question about how to change the sappy voice in punch up? right now I am using the horrible Sam voice and would like to use a female voice but I am not sure how to change it. any help with this would be grate. I am using jaws 7 and windows xp if that helps. I also have installed the different voices from the jaws users sight. I hope to hear back from some one regarding this. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
well the blocker is on xpsp3 anyway. At 03:52 a.m. 10/07/2010, you wrote: Hi Damien, Ah, but I seam to recall there was a massive memory leak in Internet Explorer 6 that was resolved in Internet Explorer 7 and above. So that right there is a good reason to upgrade Internet Explorer if nothing else. Another feature you guys are missing is the Internet Explorer pop up blocker which keeps several pop ups from coming up on most of the websites you go to, multitabbed browsing that allows you to have multiple web pages open at the same time, etc. there are some really nice features of Internet Explorer 8 you are not taking advantage of by choosing to stick with Internet Explorer 6. Not to say the least bug fixes etc. Cheers! On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Jim, I am more or less the same. I am running Jaws 7, Internet Explorer 6, Visual Studio 6, Skype 2.5, Windows Messenger (the default version that comes with XP), etc. About the only thing I update often are my audio software and games. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
HI Damien, Thanks. Who me? I don't know if I have the mentality of a counselor or not, but I usually try to talk to people through reason and logic. Even when I am angry I like to give people both sides of their own argument if I can. Make them see that every argument has two sides, and there are two ways of looking at the same issue. Sometimes there is adrastic difference of opinion that can't be met in the middle, but a lot of times looking at a situation logically, with an open mind to asolution, will help bring clarity to both sides of the argument. You may disagree on the solution, which side is right/wrong, whatever but it helps to at least know and try and understand the other guys point of view too. Smile. On 7/9/10, Damien Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net wrote: Hi Thomas, You have the mentality of a counsellor. Grin. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Closing Topic Tomb Hunter Error
Hi all, Ok, I think it is time for me to put on my moderators hat and close down this topic. I've just gotten two requests to please close the topic and get things back on topic with gaming. I happen to agree with them. So let's close the topic about the Windows 7 interface etc and get back to more neutral ground like gaming. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Thomas, One difference that I see is that running my WinKit.zip setup install installs backwards compatibility. Your needed install will up grade my C++ libraries. So, may I respectfully ask you, can you promise me that the new C++ libraries are backwards compatible. That is, if I install them, that the up grade will not blow up any of my very very old programs such as Note Pad, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player etc that are part of windows and may rely on the C++ libraries that shipped with the versions of those programs that I am running and rely on? Yes Sir, I know that I am very far behind with JFW 4.02. It does and has worked for me every since I have gone from Windows 98 to XP. And yes, the expense of JFW 11 is a problem for me since the state nor anyone else has ever paid for any hardware or software for me. You know, no JFW, note taker, braille display or anything. Of course that is because I am not a student and not looking to be employed. I must also say, that I am not a multi tasker. One web site or whatever is as much as I can handle at a time. Well you know other than I can appreciate that I can highlight text on a web site etc and then also open Note Pad or whatever to paste that text into it to save as a text file for future reference etc. I'm not sure, I will have to try to open more than one web site at a time. I'm sure though that I would have to open more than one instance of Internet Explorer to do that. TGIF and BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Ah, but we aren't so different really. If I want to play your games on Windows 7, which I do, I have to install Winkit to get the backwards compatibility runtime libraries for VB. Well, if you want to play my games on XP you have to install the latest Visual C++ Runtime libraries. Either one is not very big, and according to the Microsoft website the full Visual C++ runtime install is 6 MB. That's nothin' compared to installing the Java 6 Runtime Environment which is like 40 MB last I checked or the .Net Framework upgrades that are close to 300 MB now. The major difference between what you do and I do is you still use Visual Basic 6 and I use Visual C++ 2008 along with the Windows Platform SDK to write my games. I need the Visual Basic Runtime to play your games and you need the Visual C++ Runtime to play mine. It is not a big deal really. As for Jaws 4.02, yeah, that's pretty ancient. There is a lot of applications it does not support like Mozilla Firefox 3.6, Internet Explorer 8, Microsoft Office 2007, and so on. You couldn't even think about upgrading to Windows 7 without a major Jaws upgrade to Jaws 11 which would be extremely expensive for you sinceyou are so far behind on updates. You'd pretty much have to use an open source alternative like NVDA instead if cost is a major factor in upgrading. I'm not going to argue with your choices and decisions as you have what you obviously like. Willem and I feel differently. I for one really like Firefox and hardly ever use Internet Explorer. That is of course a personal decision, because I feel it is more secure and I love the multitab browsing ability. Of course, Internet Explorer 8 now has multitab browsing too, but as with everything else Microsoft got the idea from someone else and now tries to passit off as their own idea. Sounds like another screen reader I know that goes by the name of Jaws. They pretty much got several of their features by copying innovations from other screen reader manufacturers and passed those updates off to their customers as new ideas who were ignorant of what the other screen reader manufacturers were doing. Smile. Jim I'm amazed, that it works at all. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Haden, I hate to disagree with you, but I have been running Windows XP as I have it on my computers for something like 8 years. You know that is as it came from Dell with no up grades or anything. Well other than the software that I have written to make certain taskes easier and quicker for me to do. But otherwise my computers do everything that I want them to do. Within reason that is. - Original Message - Hi Jim, I musgt agree with Willem here. It certainly isn't necessary to have the latest and greatest of everything, Jim, but I'd be willing to bet that some day soon there will be something you will want to use, and it won't be accessible with 4.02. Some of the stuff you don't want to upgrade makes sense, like JAWS and VB, also since you have gotten use to the programming IDE offered, and I must admit I prefer it over the newer visual studio interface. However, things like Windows Media Player arecertainly free to upgrade. I'll stop now. Best Regards, Hayden Jim The only thing that I hunt is chicks, foxes and beaver. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Cara, As I see it, we are just having one of those classic no resolution stubborn discussions about people who feel the need to be running the newest software as compared to those who do not feel the need to up grade everything if one's computer is running fine and doing what one wants it to do. You know it is kind of like the argument about which screen reader is the best. People just have their opinions, likes and dislikes and they will probably never change. As you said, comfort with what one has is probably a very big part of that. TGIF and BFN Jim I have become comfortably numb. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
Hi Thomas, May I ask, are you saying that Windows 7 no longer even has a desk top where one can create short cut icons? TGIF and BFN - Original Message - Hi, Nope. My copy of Vista never had a classic start menu option or classic desktop option. It did however did allow you to set the control panel back to classic which I also liked. However, that option too is gone in Windows 7. HTH Jim WHAT??? Give up C:\ for silly ICONS? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
