Re: [Gimp-user] WaterMark on photos

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Williams
On 06/04/2011 06:14 AM, Ofnuts wrote:
 On 06/04/2011 02:01 AM, MM wrote:
 I am not an expert, however I like to play with panoramas etcetera.
 I use Gimp to retouch them once completed and I was looking for the
 possibility of use a watermark copyright on those photos before
 publishing them on photobucket.
  
 http://www.shutterfreaks.com/Actions/WatermarkSignatures/SampleDiagonal.jpg
  
 I am looking for something similar to the above sample, is there any
 one able to help and let me know how I can make it with Gimp
  

 This is a mere bump map:

 - create a text layer with your copyright and make it invisible.
 - select your image layer
 - Filters/Map/Bump map, and use the copyright as the bump map.

I tried this and it didn't work.  Do you make the text layer with the
copyright invisible by hiding the layer (clicking the eye in the layers
dialog) or by reducing the opacity to 0?

When I tried this, the copyright didn't appear at all.

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[Gimp-user] Help needed looking for a plug-in

2011-03-15 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  Sometime last year, I used a Gimp 2.6 plugin which took an image
and put vertical photo sprockets on the left and right sides of the
image, with the text 1A printed on it.  This plugin was similar to the
filmstrip plugin except the filmstrip plugin puts the photo sprockets
on the top and bottom of the image, not on the left and right sides.

I've been looking for this plugin but I don't see it in my Gimp 2.6
installation anymore. 

Any ideas on which plugin I'm trying to describe?  Again, it functions
similar to the filmstrip plugin but it applies to only ONE image and
puts the sprockets (the holes in the black edges of the photo, like a
full color negative) on the left and right sides of the image.

Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed looking for a plug-in

2011-03-15 Thread Tom Williams
On 03/15/2011 05:18 PM, Carol Spears wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10:32AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
 Hi!  Sometime last year, I used a Gimp 2.6 plugin which took an image
 and put vertical photo sprockets on the left and right sides of the
 image, with the text 1A printed on it.  This plugin was similar to the
 filmstrip plugin except the filmstrip plugin puts the photo sprockets
 on the top and bottom of the image, not on the left and right sides.

 Image/Filters/Decor/Slide...

 http://www.gimpedimenta.org/resources/fu/script-fu-slide-System-alphabetical.shtml

 I think this is what and where you are looking for.

 carol
Yep, that's it!  THANK YOU!!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-11-05 Thread Tom Williams
On 11/05/2010 03:11 PM, redforce wrote:
 Indeed. Please file a bug-report at Ubuntu. We explicitly released a
 fixed version (2.6.11) before the Ubuntu release. The Ubuntu maintainers
 should do their users a favor and update to that release.
 Seems that this has been reported:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/671229

 Maybe Chad can mark this bug as affecting him.


I just did as well!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing Problem

2010-11-01 Thread Tom Williams
On 10/31/2010 05:11 PM, geoffrey wrote:
 I just installed gimp with Ubuntu 10.10. Simple problem. Any way I try to 
 print, the printer produces a blank sheet of paper.  HPDeskJetPro prints any 
 other program's output. It seems that the package on Ubuntu gets the 2,6.10
 with the cairo software that doesn't work. Have I answered my own question?

 Geoffrey

Gimp 2.6.11 addresses this printing issue:

http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6

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Re: [Gimp-user] PNG files and IE6

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Williams
On 05/27/2010 12:51 PM, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
 Quoth Frank Gore g...@friendlyphotozone.com:
   
 There's more to it than just the PNG format, and this isn't really a Gimp
 thing:

 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/
 
 Many thanks to all respondents.

 It turns out there are two kinds of transparency; binary  alpha channel.  IE6
 can handle binary but not alpha channel.

 Something I read next (I forget what/where it was now) made a link between
 'binary' and 'indexed' (neither term really meaning anything to me) so I used
 Gimp to creat a new image, chose to fill it with a transparent background and
 then switched to Indexed mode (as opposed to RGB or Greyscale) before 
 exporting
 to PNG, and it worked!

 So, in short, if you want your transparent PNGs to work in IE6, switch to
 indexed mode before you export... it really does seem to be as simple as that.

 Sebastian
   
Can't doing this result in some loss of image quality?  Sometimes I'll
make PNGs with a drop shadow and transparency and when I convert the
image to indexed mode, the drop shadow quality suffers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] PNG files and IE6

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Williams
On 05/27/2010 01:47 PM, Stefan Maerz wrote:
 On 5/27/2010 3:38 PM, Tom Williams wrote:

 Can't doing this result in some loss of image quality?  Sometimes I'll
 make PNGs with a drop shadow and transparency and when I convert the
 image to indexed mode, the drop shadow quality suffers.

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 If I am not mistaken, binary transparency does not support partial
 transparency, so drop shadow quality should suffer.

 Stefan Maerz

Thanks for the info!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] PNG files and IE6

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Williams
On 05/27/2010 02:00 PM, niski wrote:
 W dniu 2010-05-27 22:38, Tom Williams pisze:
 On 05/27/2010 12:51 PM, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
   
 Quoth Frank Goreg...@friendlyphotozone.com:

 
 There's more to it than just the PNG format, and this isn't really
 a Gimp
 thing:

 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/


 Many thanks to all respondents.

 It turns out there are two kinds of transparency; binary  alpha
 channel.  IE6
 can handle binary but not alpha channel.

 Something I read next (I forget what/where it was now) made a link
 between
 'binary' and 'indexed' (neither term really meaning anything to me)
 so I used
 Gimp to creat a new image, chose to fill it with a transparent
 background and
 then switched to Indexed mode (as opposed to RGB or Greyscale)
 before exporting
 to PNG, and it worked!

 So, in short, if you want your transparent PNGs to work in IE6,
 switch to
 indexed mode before you export... it really does seem to be as
 simple as that.

 Sebastian

  
 Can't doing this result in some loss of image quality?  Sometimes I'll
 make PNGs with a drop shadow and transparency and when I convert the
 image to indexed mode, the drop shadow quality suffers.

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 Opacity in indexed mode is binary like in GIFs (that is, any pixel is
 either opaque or transparent but not e.g half-transparent)... If you
 really need to have PNGs with indexed opacity in IE6, you have IE6
 filters (they are written in CSS files) at your disposal. If you know
 you won't have any gradients or anything like that under the shadow,
 you can just cut small part with background and shadow over it.

 Best regards,
 niski

Thanks for the info!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] PNG files and IE6

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Williams
On 05/27/2010 03:03 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote:
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Tom Williams tomd...@comcast.net wrote:
   
 Can't doing this result in some loss of image quality?  Sometimes I'll
 make PNGs with a drop shadow and transparency and when I convert the
 image to indexed mode, the drop shadow quality suffers.
 
 There are ways to do this correctly and keep the image visually
 similar to the original 24-bit PNG (the one with alpha).

 You must know the color of the background on which you'll be putting
 the 8-bit PNG (binary transparency) before you can do so, though. Once
 you know the background color:

 1. Create a layer filled with background color
 2. Put the layer behind the image with drop shadow
 3. Flatten the image and add alpha to the only remaining layer
 4. Use select by color tool and click somewhere where background shows though
 5. Clear the selection (delete it)
 6. Now save the result as 8-bit PNG and it should work

 (Of course, it'll be clearer when you actually do these steps.)

 HTH
   

Thanks for the info!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] PNG files and IE6

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Williams
On 05/27/2010 02:56 PM, Frank Gore wrote:
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Tom Williams tomd...@comcast.net wrote:
   
 Can't doing this result in some loss of image quality?  Sometimes I'll
 make PNGs with a drop shadow and transparency and when I convert the
 image to indexed mode, the drop shadow quality suffers.
 
 The problem with indexed colour is that the PNG format is still
 technically limited to 8bit in its colour palette in this mode, just
 like GIF was. So yes, you can lose tons of quality and colour.

 Thing is, IE6 is pretty much deprecated at this point anyways. Most
 new templates for things like Joomla, Drupal et al do not include full
 support for IE6 anymore. Now if only people would stop installing old
 versions of Windows XP, we'd all be better for it :)
   

Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Williams
Frank Gore wrote:
 Sorry, those were links to the version of the pictures as displayed by
 Picasa, which has the metadata stripped. The direct download links are
 as follows:

 Adobe RGB:
 http://lh6.ggpht.com/_HAZjMzZWrtc/S05qkb7KkYI/BCw/oPJ80XXYH-Y/d/_GOR3359.JPG

 sRGB:
 http://lh3.ggpht.com/_HAZjMzZWrtc/S05qk1yxBOI/BC0/5kXGfiIIF7s/d/GORE3360.JPG

 There's a LOT of metadata, Pentax fills in more metadata than I thought 
 existed.
   
When I open the Adobe RGB image in GIMP 2.6.7 on Ubuntu 9.10 Linux
(64-bit), the EXIF browser shows the ColorSpace as:

Internal error (unknown value 65535)


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Re: [Gimp-user] ???

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Williams
Ken Warner wrote:
 Do all GIMP for Mac builds need X11?

I believe so.  Based on these two pages, X11 is a requirement for Gimp
to run on Mac OS X:

http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/  (scroll to bottom of page)

http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Download.html

Peace...

Tom


 Tom Williams wrote:
 Rob Meurer wrote:
 I just got GIMP for Mac and in installing it says no because I need 
 X-11.  What is that?
 The X Window System server for Mac OS X:

 http://support.apple.com/downloads/X11_for_Mac_OS_X_1_0

 You should be able to install X from your Mac OS X install DVD.

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Re: [Gimp-user] ???

2009-11-26 Thread Tom Williams
Ken Warner wrote:
 Thanks, that's good to know.

No problem.  I've installed X on OS X Tiger from the installation DVD
and it worked just fine.  Gimp ran fine as well.  The main issue I've
had with running X on Mac OS X is when all X apps have been closed, X
keeps running that has to manually be closed as well.  I understand why
that's the case but it's a minor issue I have with it.  :)

Good luck!

Peace...

Tom

 Tom Williams wrote:
 Ken Warner wrote:
 Do all GIMP for Mac builds need X11?

 I believe so.  Based on these two pages, X11 is a requirement for Gimp
 to run on Mac OS X:

 http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/  (scroll to bottom of page)

 http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Download.html

 Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] ???

2009-11-25 Thread Tom Williams
Rob Meurer wrote:
 I just got GIMP for Mac and in installing it says no because I need  
 X-11.  What is that?
The X Window System server for Mac OS X:

http://support.apple.com/downloads/X11_for_Mac_OS_X_1_0

You should be able to install X from your Mac OS X install DVD.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Creating icons

2009-04-13 Thread Tom Williams
DJ wrote:
 Hi,

 RP check this:
 RP http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Creating_Icons/
 RP Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia

 Thank you.

 I was going through the tutorial and tried the antialiasing. I took a
 fuzzy circle brush #5 and changed the opacity to 40. The first time I
 tried it, I clicked and dragged, stopped, and clicked again. That's
 when I got a different shade. But it didn't look like the example in
 the right image. Is the trick, to get the various shades, to click
 often and overlap?

 Along this line, I wanted to created a rectangle border w/rounded
 corners. I thought one way might be to: (1) select-round rectangle,
  (2) select-border, (3) edit-fill with fg color.  The corners are
  jagged, not antialiased. What did I miss? :-)

 Thank you.
   
I just tried the steps you posted for creating the rounded corners 
rectangle and came up with this:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/782/roundedborders.png

This is using Gimp 2.6.5 on Ubuntu 8.10 Linux (64-bit).  Are your 
results differernt from mine or does my result show the same, 
non-antialiased corners you're getting?

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[Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.6.1 on Ubuntu Linux

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Williams
I'm running Gimp 2.6.1 on Ubuntu 8.10 (64-bit) and I've noticed when I 
load an image, the image window stays behind the toolbox and the layers 
window all the time.  I didn't see a preference where I could control 
always on top behavior.

This makes it challenging for me to work with images.

Is there anything I can do about this?

Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.6.1 on Ubuntu Linux

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Williams
Nathan Lane wrote:
 Go to Edit  Preferences, select Window Management, change the Hints 
 for the Toolbox and Docks to Normal Window.

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running Gimp 2.6.1 on Ubuntu 8.10 (64-bit) and I've noticed when I
 load an image, the image window stays behind the toolbox and the
 layers
 window all the time.  I didn't see a preference where I could control
 always on top behavior.

 This makes it challenging for me to work with images.

 Is there anything I can do about this?

 Thanks!

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Thanks for the info!  That did the trick!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.6.1 on Ubuntu Linux

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Williams
Martin Nordholts wrote:
 Nathan Lane wrote:
   
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running Gimp 2.6.1 on Ubuntu 8.10 (64-bit) and I've noticed when I
 load an image, the image window stays behind the toolbox and the
 layers
 window all the time.  I didn't see a preference where I could control
 always on top behavior.

 This makes it challenging for me to work with images.

 Is there anything I can do about this?


 Go to Edit  Preferences, select Window Management, change the Hints
 for the Toolbox and Docks to Normal Window.

 

 Or use the Tab key to toggle visibility of the Toolbox and Docks on and off.

 - Martin


   

Thanks for this tip as well.  I prefer having the Toolbox and Docks 
windows displayed all the time, just not on top of the image window all 
the time.  I tried the Tab key toggle and it worked just fine.  Neat.  :)

Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] compiling woes

2007-10-26 Thread Tom Williams
Elwin Estle wrote:
 I am attempting to compile 2.4 on a fresh Slackware 12.0 install.  When I run
 ./configure, I get a message at the end about needing pygtk, but I have pygtk 
 installed
 and the version number is high enough.  Do I need some kind of development 
 headers and if
 so, where do I get them?
   
Make sure you have pkg-config installed and your PyGTK installation is 
setup with the .rc file in the right place.  I believe the Gimp build 
process uses pkg-config to sniff out the various versions of the 
support libraries it needs.  You just might need the PyGTK development 
packages installed if your pkg-config installation is good.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Another problem istalling gimp-2.3.19

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Williams
Looks like libssl is missing on your system:

cannot find -lssl
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [libprintbackend-cups.la] Erreur 1


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julien wrote:
 Thank you Ulf,

 cups-devel, findutils-locate and pin now installed.
 But still a problem with something missing installing gtk:

 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../.. -I../../../gtk
 -I../../../gtk -I../../../gdk -I../../../gdk
 -DGTK_PRINT_BACKEND_ENABLE_UNSUPPORTED -pthread -I/usr/include/cairo
 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12
 -I/opt/gnome/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/gnome/lib/glib-2.0/include
 -I/opt/gnome/include/pango-1.0 -I/opt/gnome/include/atk-1.0
 -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -g -O2 -Wall -MT
 gtkcupsutils.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/gtkcupsutils.Tpo -c gtkcupsutils.c 
 -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gtkcupsutils.o
 /bin/sh ../../../libtool --mode=link gcc  -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -g -O2
 -Wall   -o libprintbackend-cups.la -rpath
 /usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends -avoid-version -module 
 gtkprintbackendcups.lo gtkprintercups.lo gtkcupsutils.lo
 -L/opt/gnome/lib -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lXfixes -latk-1.0
 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -lcairo -lfreetype -lz
 -lfontconfig -lexpat -lglitz -lm -lpng12 -lXrender -lX11 -lpthread -lXau
 -lXdmcp -lm ../../../gtk/libgtk-x11-2.0.la   -lcups -lssl
 -lcrypto -lz -lpthread -lm -lcrypt
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXinerama.la' seems to
 be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXrandr.la' seems to be
 moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXext.la' seems to be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXcursor.la' seems to be
 moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXfixes.la' seems to be
 moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libcairo.la' seems to be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libfreetype.la' seems to
 be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libfontconfig.la' seems to
 be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libglitz.la' seems to be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libpng12.la' seems to be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXrender.la' seems to be
 moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libX11.la' seems to be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXau.la' seems to be moved
 libtool: link: warning:
 `/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../..//libXdmcp.la' seems to be moved
 gcc -shared  .libs/gtkprintbackendcups.o .libs/gtkprintercups.o
 .libs/gtkcupsutils.o  -Wl,--rpath
 -Wl,/home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13/gtk/.libs
 -L/opt/gnome/lib /opt/gnome/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so -L/usr/lib
 /opt/gnome/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/lib/libXfixes.so
 /opt/gnome/lib/libatk-1.0.so /opt/gnome/lib/libgobject-2.0.so
 /opt/gnome/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so -ldl /opt/gnome/lib/libglib-2.0.so
 /usr/lib/libcairo.so /usr/lib/libfreetype.so /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so
 -lexpat /usr/lib/libglitz.so /usr/lib/libpng12.so /usr/lib/libXrender.so
 /usr/lib/libX11.so /usr/lib/libXau.so /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so
 ../../../gtk/.libs/libgtk-x11-2.0.so
 -L/home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13/gdk/.libs
 -L/usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../
 -L/home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13/gdk-pixbuf/.libs -lcups
 -lssl -lcrypto -lz -lpthread -lm -lcrypt  -Wl,-soname
 -Wl,libprintbackend-cups.so -o .libs/libprintbackend-cups.so
 /usr/lib/gcc/i586-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../i586-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 cannot find -lssl
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[4]: *** [libprintbackend-cups.la] Erreur 1
 make[4]: quitting directory «
 /home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13/modules/printbackends/cups »
 make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
 make[3]: quitting directory «
 /home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13/modules/printbackends »
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
 make[2]: quitting directory «
 /home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13/modules »
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
 make[1]: quitting directory « /home/julien/Documents/telechar/gtk+-2.10.13 »
 make: *** [all] Erreur 2

 What does these seems to be moved mean?
 There is no available package for ld in Yast.

 Greatings,

 Julien
   
 Package cups-devel is missing. 
 Try these commands when you are looking for (missing) files or packages 
 (this is my SuSE 9.3 output):

 $ locate cups/cups.h # searching files on harddisk
 /usr/include/cups/cups.h
 $
 $ ls /usr/include/cups/
 cups.h  http.h  image.h  ipp.h  language.h  md5.h  ppd.h  raster.h
 $
 $ rpm -qf /usr/include/cups/
 cups-devel-1.1.23-7.6
 $
 $ 

[Gimp-user] pygimp doesn't build during Gimp 2.3.15 build

2007-03-11 Thread Tom Williams
I'm posting this question here to see if it's a Python environment issue 
on my end or something in Gimp 2.3.15.  I'm building Gimp 2.3.15 from 
source on a freshly re-installed Ubuntu 6.10 (AMD64) Linux system.  Here 
is my build environment information:

gcc-4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease)
2.6.17 kernel (x86_64)
glib-2.12.4
gtk+-2.10.6
python 2.4.4c1

When I run the Gimp build, it stops with this error:

 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I/usr/include/python2.4 
-I/usr/include/pygtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE 
-fno-strict-aliasing -g -O2 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith 
-MT gimpuimodule.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/gimpuimodule.Tpo -c 
gimpuimodule.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/gimpuimodule.o
gimpuimodule.c:49: warning: no previous prototype for 'init_gimpui'
(cd . \
  /usr/bin/pygtk-codegen-2.0 \
--override gimpui.override \
--register /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/gdk-types.defs \
--register /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/defs/gtk-types.defs \
--register ./gimpcolor-types.defs \
--register ./gimpenums-types.defs \
--prefix gimpui gimpui.defs)  gen-gimpui.c \
  cp gen-gimpui.c gimpui.c \
  rm -f gen-gimpui.c
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_color_display_new
Could not write method GimpColorDisplay.load_state: No ArgType for 
GimpParasite*
Could not write method GimpColorDisplay.save_state: No ArgType for 
GimpParasite*
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_color_selector_new
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_frame_new
Could not write method GimpIntComboBox.prepend: varargs functions not 
supported
Could not write method GimpIntComboBox.append: varargs functions not 
supported
Could not write method GimpIntComboBox.connect: No ArgType for GCallback
Could not write method GimpIntComboBox.set_sensitivity: No ArgType for 
GimpIntSensitivityFunc
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_enum_combo_box_new
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_enum_store_new
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_memsize_entry_new
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_offset_area_new
Could not write method GimpPageSelector.get_selected_pages: No ArgType 
for gint*
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_path_editor_new
Could not write method GimpPreview.get_position: No ArgType for gint*
Could not write method GimpPreview.get_size: No ArgType for gint*
Could not write method GimpPreviewArea.draw: No ArgType for GimpImageType
Could not write method GimpPreviewArea.blend: No ArgType for GimpImageType
Could not write method GimpPreviewArea.mask: No ArgType for GimpImageType
Could not write method GimpDrawablePreview.get_drawable: No ArgType for 
GimpDrawable*
Could not write method GimpDrawablePreview.draw_region: No ArgType for 
const-GimpPixelRgn*
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_size_entry_new
Could not write constructor for GimpSizeEntry: No ArgType for GimpUnit
Could not write method GimpSizeEntry.get_unit: No ArgType for GimpUnit
Could not write method GimpSizeEntry.set_unit: No ArgType for GimpUnit
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_unit_menu_new
Could not write constructor for GimpUnitMenu: No ArgType for GimpUnit
Could not write method GimpUnitMenu.set_unit: No ArgType for GimpUnit
Could not write method GimpUnitMenu.get_unit: No ArgType for GimpUnit
Could not write method GimpZoomModel.get_fraction: No ArgType for gint*
Could not write method GimpZoomPreview.get_source: No ArgType for gint*
Could not write method GimpZoomPreview.get_drawable: No ArgType for 
GimpDrawable*
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1707, in ?
sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
  File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1698, in main
sw.write(py_ssize_t_clean)
  File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1340, in write
self.write_classes()
  File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1437, in 
write_classes
instance.write_class()
  File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 283, in write_class
substdict['tp_methods'] = self.write_methods()
  File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 519, in write_methods
methods.append(self.methdef_tmpl %
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'meth' referenced before assignment
make[4]: *** [gimpui.c] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/mnt/data/build/gimp-2.3.15/plug-ins/pygimp'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Re: [Gimp-user] 2.3.14 compile - dbus error

2007-02-08 Thread Tom Williams
Yep, I hit that as well. I'm running Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) and I
solved that problem by upgrading dbus to version 1.0.2. That allowed
me to compile Gimp 2.3.14 but it basically broke several other parts of
the Ubuntu distribution.

HAL won't run.
Nautilus won't run.

Until Ubuntu catches up with the latest dbus release, I would sit
tight and not chance introducing other issues in your system if you
decide to upgrade dbus manually, as I did.

At least I've got a working Gimp 2.3.14 to play with. :)

Good luck!

Peace...

Tom

Eric P wrote:
 Anybody have any dbus problems compiling 2.3.14?

 I get the following:
 ...snip...
 Making all in gui
 make[3]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14/app/gui' に入ります
 if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../app 
 -I../../app -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 
 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/opt/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Gimp-GUI\ 
 -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
 -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE
 -g -O2 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes 
 -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -MT
 color-history.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/color-history.Tpo -c -o color-history.o 
 color-history.c; \
 then mv -f .deps/color-history.Tpo .deps/color-history.Po; else 
 rm -f .deps/color-history.Tpo; exit 1; fi
 if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../app 
 -I../../app -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo 
 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 
 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/opt/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\Gimp-GUI\ 
 -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
 -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
 -DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE
 -g -O2 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes 
 -Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -MT
 gui.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/gui.Tpo -c -o gui.o gui.c; \
 then mv -f .deps/gui.Tpo .deps/gui.Po; else rm -f 
 .deps/gui.Tpo; exit 1; fi
 In file included from /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus-glib-lowlevel.h:28,
  from gui.c:27:
 /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:30:2: error: #error Please define 
 DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE to acknowledge your
 understanding that D-Bus hasn't reached 1.0 and is subject to protocol and 
 API churn. See the README for a full
 explanation.
 make[3]: *** [gui.o] エラー 1
 make[3]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14/app/gui' から出ます
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] エラー 1
 make[2]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14/app' から出ます
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] エラー 1
 make[1]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14' から出ます
 make: *** [all] エラー 2


 I'm running Kubuntu 6.10, and I have this version of libdbus installed 
 (w/header files): 0.93-0ubuntu3.1

 I tried commenting out the #error line in dbus.h, and that seemed to get past 
 this part.  But then I
 get a slew of errors which all look similar to this:
 Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_color_display_new
 Could not write method GimpColorDisplay.load_state: No ArgType for 
 GimpParasite*
 Could not write method GimpColorDisplay.save_state: No ArgType for 
 GimpParasite*

 And it ends with this:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1707, in ?
 sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
   File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1698, in main
 sw.write(py_ssize_t_clean)
   File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1340, in write
 self.write_classes()
   File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 1437, in write_classes
 instance.write_class()
   File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 283, in write_class
 substdict['tp_methods'] = self.write_methods()
   File /usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py, line 519, in write_methods
 methods.append(self.methdef_tmpl %
 UnboundLocalError: local variable 'meth' referenced before assignment
 make[4]: *** [gimpui.c] エラー 1


 Thanks for reading.
 Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Williams
Brendan wrote:
 On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote:
   
 Carter castor wrote:
 
 This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP
 though: its name.  I don't understand why the developers would put so
 much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as
 GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person.  How
 do you sell that to a corporation?  How do you market that?  The
 people in business suits are going to chose a program named Photoshop
 over Gimp 11 times out of 10.
   
 Oh my God, let's not start this again.  It's an acronym, get over it.
 

 Oh wait, Geoffrey says Get over it. Everybody with an opinion or actual 
 relevent facts, forget it. Geoffrey said so.
Well, he's got a valid point.  I don't get why everyone is discussing 
the word Gimp from an English language standpoint when Gimp is an 
*acronym*, as I also pointed out earlier on in this discussion.

For example,  Sarasota County Area Transit is a name of a transit 
agency and its acronym is rather interesting.  :)

Peace...

Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Tom Williams
David Gowers wrote:
 On 12/18/06, *Leon Brooks* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf,
  Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that
  isn't how people acquire Gimp.

 Today.

 What about in 3 years' time?


 I like the proposed alternate name far better than the current name, 
 being that it is both punny and literal. I believe you'd have to work 
 pretty hard to get such a change accepted, 'cause mainly of name 
 recognition.
Something else everyone needs to remember is Gimp is actually an acronym 
(GNU Image Manipulation Program) vs a chosen name.

Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Tom Williams

Stephan Hegel wrote:

Tom Williams wrote:
  

For the record folks,  I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with
my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in
/usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any
problems, errors, or wrapper scripts (unless gimp-2.3 is a wrapper script).


That's very interesting. Could you please post the output of
echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
and
file /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3
?

Thanks.

I'm wondering how this works with multiple gimp libs.

Kind regards,
   Stephan.
  

Sure can.  :)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3
/usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, 
version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared 
libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, not stripped

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which gimp
/usr/bin/gimp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gimp --version
GIMP version 2.2.13
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gimp 
[1] 5821
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3 --version
GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.3.12
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3 
[2] 5830
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ This is a development version of GIMP.  Debug messages may 
appear here.


jpeg-load: found EXIF block (15 bytes)
jpeg-load: found image comment (17 bytes)

[1]-  Donegimp
[2]+  Done/usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

---END-

I upgraded from Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) to 6.10 (Edgy) this morning.  I was 
able to run Gimp 2.2.13 (came with Edgy) and 2.3.12  (built from source) 
concurrently.  The jpeg-load messages came from my loading an image in 
Gimp 2.3.12.


For completeness, here is the file info on /usr/bin/gimp:

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/bin/gimp
/usr/bin/gimp: symbolic link to `gimp-2.2'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/bin/gimp-2.2
/usr/bin/gimp-2.2: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 
(SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for 
GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

-END--

Peace...

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Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Tom Williams

Toby Haynes wrote:

Tom Williams wrote:


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/bin/gimp
/usr/bin/gimp: symbolic link to `gimp-2.2'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/bin/gimp-2.2
/usr/bin/gimp-2.2: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 
(SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), 
for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

-END--

It would be more interesting to see what the dynamic linker is doing 
for the gimp install in /usr/local


i.e.
ldd /usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3

compared with
ldd /usr/bin/gimp

The reason for problems is not normally the base executable - it is 
the libraries that end up being linked to it. Both gimp-2.2 and 
gimp-2.3 have similar library names - if you see the 
/usr/local/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3 binary getting linked to the 
/usr/lib/libgimp* libraries, then you have a problem. If they are 
linked to /usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimp*, then you are less likely 
to have problems.
Ok, I've run the two commands above, as requested, except I ran the ldd 
against /usr/bin/gimp-2.2 instead of /usr/bin/gimp.


The results are in the attached text files.  It looks like the right 
library search paths are compiled into the executable.


Peace...

Tom
libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab139043000)
libgimpmodule-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgimpmodule-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab13922e000)
libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab139332000)
libgimpthumb-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgimpthumb-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab13943c000)
libgimpmath-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab139545000)
libgimpbase-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab13964a000)
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x2ab13975a000)
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x2ab139bee000)
libatk-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x2ab139d86000)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ab139ea6000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x2ab139fbf000)
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 
(0x2ab13a14)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x2ab13a249000)
libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x2ab13a35b000)
libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2ab13a464000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x2ab13a566000)
libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x2ab13a66f000)
libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x2ab13a772000)
libXfixes.so.3 = /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x2ab13a87c000)
libcairo.so.2 = /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0x2ab13a982000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2ab13aaeb000)
libart_lgpl_2.so.2 = /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 (0x2ab13acc9000)
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 
(0x2ab13ade1000)
libpango-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x2ab13af0f000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x2ab13b04f000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x2ab13b191000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x2ab13b294000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x2ab13b398000)
libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x2ab13b537000)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x2ab13b676000)
libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x2ab13b7ef000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2ab13b906000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x2ab13bb47000)
libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x2ab13bc4a000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x2ab13bd6e000)
librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x2ab13be73000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x2ab138f26000)
libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x2ab13bf7d000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x2ab13c09f000)
libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0 = 
/usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0 (0x2ae81e9ae000)
libgimpmodule-2.0.so.0 = 
/usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x2ae81ebc2000)
libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0 = /usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ae81ecc6000)
libgimpthumb-2.0.so.0 = /usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpthumb-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ae81edd1000)
libgimpmath-2.0.so.0 = /usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpmath-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ae81eeda000)
libgimpconfig-2.0.so.0 = 
/usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpconfig-2.0.so.0 (0x2ae81efdf000)
libgimpbase-2.0.so.0 = /usr/local/gimp-2.3/lib/libgimpbase-2.0.so.0 
(0x2ae81f0ee000)
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x2ae81f21a000)
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x2ae81f6ad000)
libatk-1.0.so.0

Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-02 Thread Tom Williams

Stephan Hegel wrote:

Tom Williams wrote:
  

Sure can.  :)

START-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


Thanks, Tom. The point is the empty LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable.

IIUC, in this case the loader is not forced to search for libs in
certain directories. Seems it just uses the lib paths compiled in.
And than it works for me too with multiple Gimp installations
in different locations without using a wrapper. Just the PATH must
be adjusted.
  
Yep, that sounds like what's going on as shown by my other response to 
this thread.  :)


Let me know if there are any more desired output.  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] New error with 2.3.11 and 2.3.10

2006-11-01 Thread Tom Williams
For the record folks,  I've got Gimp 2.2.11 installed in /usr (came with 
my Linux distro) and Gimp 2.3.12 (used to have 2.3.11) installed in 
/usr/local/gimp-2.3 and I'm able to run either version without any 
problems, errors, or wrapper scripts (unless gimp-2.3 is a wrapper script).


I'm running on Ubuntu 6.06 Linux but I used to run stable and 
development versions of Gimp built from source on my old Slackware 
8-based machine all the time and without problems.


I don't think the error Mr Culleton received is as big of an issue as it 
appears to be.


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[Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.4 and incorporation of the EXIF browser plugin

2006-10-15 Thread Tom Williams
I see that Gimp 2.3.12 has just been released and I was wondering what 
are the chances of getting the EXIF browser plugin incorporated as a 
plugin that's part of the Gimp distribution?


EXIF browser:
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4153

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.4 and incorporation of the EXIF browser plugin

2006-10-15 Thread Tom Williams

Sven Neumann wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 00:05 -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
  
I see that Gimp 2.3.12 has just been released and I was wondering what 
are the chances of getting the EXIF browser plugin incorporated as a 
plugin that's part of the Gimp distribution?



The plan was to finish the metadata plug-in for 2.4. Not sure if Raphael
will get around it in time. Perhaps you might want to help him to bring
the plug-in to a state where it does at least provide enough
functionality to obsolete the exifbrowser plug-in?
  
Ah, I wasn't aware of the metadata plug-in.  The EXIF browser plug-in 
isn't crucial (obviously) but would have been nice.  I'll see if I can 
help out with the metadata plug-in.  :)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.3.10 and auto level adjustment

2006-08-27 Thread Tom Williams

Carol Spears wrote:

On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:57:26PM -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
  
Anywho, when I do an auto levels adjustment on the photo, the result 
looks quite a bit different and not as good as the original.  I'm 
wondering if the result is actually correct or not.





i do not know what the auto portion does for this tool.  i assume it
does something like determining the lightest color and it turns that to
white and similar with the darkest color and black.  i assume this
because that is how the little eye dropper thingies work with the levels
dialog.
  

Ok.

Here is the original image:

http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gimp/bay-bridge1.jpg

Here is the image after the auto level adjustment is performed:

http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gimp/bay-bridge1b.jpg



i actually enjoy playing with the levels tool and photographs, so i
endulged myself:
http://carol.gimp.org/files/bay-bridge1-levels.jpg
  

Looks great!  :)
The original image was scaled to 1024x768 resolution at 72 dpi.  The 
original photo was taken at 72 dpi.


Is the resultant image correct?  If so, why does it not look as good as 
the original?




if you look at the different channels in the levels dialog, you can see
what the Auto button did.  it consistently moves the light side to where
the color histogram starts for all three of the color channels. and it
seems that the gray (center) triangle stays in the middle of the other
two triangles.

i have no idea if this works for a majority of photographs or not.

i used the tool just on the Values Channel (which is not a real
channel) and i like mine better than your original and also the auto
adjusted image.  to me, the only thing that was wrong with your
photograph was that 'all over gray' haze that scanned photo prints would
really get and digital photographs still seem to get somewhat.
  
Thanks for the detailed explanation.  Obviously, I didn't understand 
what the auto button did on the Levels dialog.  I figured it would 
automatically adjust color levels to be correct, based on the photo 
being edited but clearly I was wrong.  :)


Now I have a better understanding of how to use that Levels dialog so 
I'll do more experimentation with it and other photos.


Thanks!  Yes, you did answer my question as did the other person who 
responded off-list.


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[Gimp-user] SIOX and Gimp 2.3.10

2006-08-27 Thread Tom Williams
Is the SIOX tool still part of Gimp 2.3?  I didn't see the icon for it 
in the toolbox in 2.3.10.


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Re: [Gimp-user] SIOX and Gimp 2.3.10

2006-08-27 Thread Tom Williams

Carol Spears wrote:

On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 10:50:46AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
  
Is the SIOX tool still part of Gimp 2.3?  I didn't see the icon for it 
in the toolbox in 2.3.10.




it is still there.

i wrote a little thingie about how clever (in my opinion) the default
layout is for gimp-2.3's toolbox here:
http://carol.gimp.org/GIMP/howto/gui-configure/first-day.php

i am somewhat embarrassed because of the php in the url there.  it did
seem to be the way to solve many of my problems though.

  

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[Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.3.10 and auto level adjustment

2006-08-26 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  I took a photo using a Canon PowerShot A75 while driving at approx 
65 mph.  The shot came out ok and I didn't get into an accident.  :)


Anywho, when I do an auto levels adjustment on the photo, the result 
looks quite a bit different and not as good as the original.  I'm 
wondering if the result is actually correct or not.


Here is the original image:

http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gimp/bay-bridge1.jpg

Here is the image after the auto level adjustment is performed:

http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gimp/bay-bridge1b.jpg

The original image was scaled to 1024x768 resolution at 72 dpi.  The 
original photo was taken at 72 dpi.


Is the resultant image correct?  If so, why does it not look as good as 
the original?


Thanks!

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[Gimp-user] Help needed with photo touch-up using Gimp 2.3.9

2006-06-12 Thread Tom Williams
I have a JPEG that's 846x648 in dimensions taken by a digital camera.  
The image is rather dark and I'm wanting to lighten up it and enhance it 
a bit.  I've used the Levels and Curves filters to adjust colors and 
lighten the image but the results aren't turning out as well as I would 
like.


So, I'm coming to you, the Gimp experts for help.  :)  Would it be best 
to post my image to the mailing list (it's about 58k in size) or should 
I post a link to it on a site where I can host it?


I've been looking at various tutorials but they just don't quite help 
enough.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed with photo touch-up using Gimp 2.3.9

2006-06-12 Thread Tom Williams

Stephen Norris wrote:

On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 20:55 -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
  
I have a JPEG that's 846x648 in dimensions taken by a digital camera.  
The image is rather dark and I'm wanting to lighten up it and enhance it 
a bit.  I've used the Levels and Curves filters to adjust colors and 
lighten the image but the results aren't turning out as well as I would 
like.


So, I'm coming to you, the Gimp experts for help.  :)  Would it be best 
to post my image to the mailing list (it's about 58k in size) or should 
I post a link to it on a site where I can host it?


I've been looking at various tutorials but they just don't quite help 
enough.


Thanks!

Peace...

Tom



Put up a link. Do you have a larger version of the image, that's a
pretty small photo.

Stephen
  

Unfortunately, that's the only image I have.

Here is a link:

http://bay-online-media.com/tom/eq02.jpg

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gtk-Perl and Gimp 2

2006-05-08 Thread Tom Williams

Shlomi Fish wrote:

On Saturday 06 May 2006 05:55, Tom Williams wrote:
  

Hi! I'm installing Gimp 2.2.11 on my newly rebuilding Slackware Linux
system and I've installed Gtk+ 2.8.17 but not Gtk 1.2.10.  I tried to
install Gtk-Perl via CPAN and the configuration of Gtk-Perl failed due
to gtk-config not being found.

Will Gtk-Perl be updated to work with GTK+ 2.x?




No, use the CPAN Gtk2 module for that:

http://search.cpan.org/dist/Gtk2/

Regards,

Shlomi Fish
  

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[Gimp-user] Question about Gtk-Perl and Gimp 2

2006-05-05 Thread Tom Williams
Hi! I'm installing Gimp 2.2.11 on my newly rebuilding Slackware Linux 
system and I've installed Gtk+ 2.8.17 but not Gtk 1.2.10.  I tried to 
install Gtk-Perl via CPAN and the configuration of Gtk-Perl failed due 
to gtk-config not being found.


Will Gtk-Perl be updated to work with GTK+ 2.x?

Where is the best place to get this info?

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[Gimp-user] Question about Photo CD (.PCD) file support in Gimp 2.2 or 2.4

2006-05-04 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  I'm looking for a plugin to add support for Kodak Photo CD (.PCD) 
files and I'm not having any luck.


What are my options for getting Photo CD image support in Gimp 2.2 or 2.4?

Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Time to stick a fork in the GIMP?

2006-03-11 Thread Tom Williams
Michael Schumacher wrote:
 Well, it shows that the author doesn't read the OpenUsability forum. Of
 course, this makes it a suitable article for NewsForged, but without
 proof for the authors claims it is worthless.
   
I don't dispute this, but I think a more fundamental issue has been
raised in the article, which comes up time and time again on Gimp lists
and in other Gimp criticism.  That issue is: Gimp does not look or
behave like PhotoShop.  As a result, people think it's doomed to fail
simply because it's not PhotoShop.

If folks want to use Pixel, which emulates PhotoShop, by all means let
them.  What I didn't like about the article is the author equates
PhotoShop look/feel with usability.   Many Gimp users find Gimp *very*
usable and functional given what it can do.  Gimp's functionality is
separate from its UI and I think it's wrong to judge Gimp's
functionality based on its UI (which doesn't necessarily mean the UI is
horrible even though many think it is).

I mentioned before I once got into a Gimp UI debate with someone who
slammed Gimp's UI but also felt PhotoShop's UI was just as bad.  I think
those who claim Gimp has a bad UI yet suggest adopting a PhotoShop UI
are still missing the target.  If the idea is to come up with a good
UI for Gimp, that is where the focus should be instead of swapping one
arguably bad UI with another arguably bad UI simply because it's well known.

Thanks to wayne for posting the link.  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie alert - please be gentle!

2006-03-01 Thread Tom Williams
Ross Brown wrote:
 Afternoon All

 A newbie to Gimp but wanted to give it a go as I'd heard so many good
 things about it.

 Found a basic problem that could stop me using it - but I'm sure it's
 solvable.

 I'm running Gimp through X11 on a Mac (running OSX 10.4.5).

 I keep all my work on a remote file server but the Open dialogue in
 Gimp doesn't appear to be able to connect to this mounted drive.

 I may be missing a trick - either through Gimp or in OSX - and would
 appreciate any help anybody could give.

 Apologies if this problem is solved in an FAQ, I've had a look but
 can't see anything relevant.
Sorry, newbies are not allowed here.

:)

Just kidding..  :)

Is the problem the mounted drive doesn't appear in the Open dialog or
that it does appear and you can't open it?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Tom Williams
Ross Brown wrote:
 If Gimp is to become a replacement for Photoshop then, whether it
 appears to be good practice or not, it has to accommodate its
 potential users and work as they are used to working (in the short
 term at least). I'm sure there are many people who will argue - and
 possible quite rightly - that the Gimp is not a Photoshop replacement
 but, for many, many people, it is and as more people make the move
 from Photoshop, surely the Gimp's relevancy, exposure and quality can
 only improve.
I think you make a great point but I don't think improvements in Gimp's
quality or relevance is based on or related to PhotoShop user acceptance
at all.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Tom Williams
Paul Bloch wrote:
 To take an example that would also apply to Gimp, when showing us
 different methods she came across a tool that didn't allow you to
 preview the effect and she simply said,This is pretty useless, you
 can't see what you're doing.  So there is a functional and productive
 criticism.  Designing is a visual process obviously, if I can't see
 the effect, be it transforming or using a filter, it makes my job a
 whole lot harder and consumes more of my time via guessing, undoing,
 and reapplying the filter.  It's like drawing with a blindfold. 
 Anyway to make a long story slightly longer I think part of moving
 forward for Gimp would be to start to beta test with real professional
 designers, the ones who's work you admire.
I think this is a great idea.  Ideally, the pro designers would be able
to focus on the usability of Gimp *outside* of the context of
PhotoShop.  That way, we could minimize bias based on familiarity.  With
all of the talk of wanting Gimp to look/feel like PhotoShop,  there
hasn't been much discussion of PhotoShop's UI being considered good. 
I had this kind of discussion with someone else who slammed the Gimp UI
and much to my surprise he slammed the PhotoShop UI as being about as
bad.  :)

I think the intent should be to strive for a solid UI that is intuitive,
not necessarily to mimic one that is basically familiar and that's about it.
 I think that Gimp's market potential isn't as an adobe REPLACEMENT,
 not at this point anyway, it is more of a SUBSTITUTE (there is a
 difference).  I think it would serve better as filling the niche for
 those people who don't actually own a legit copy of photoshop.  If
 people discover they don't have to break the law because there is an
 adequate substitute that performs similarly to photoshop people will
 use Gimp in droves.  And to add to that what Gimp can allow for is a
 program that can fully cater to the experience of a user.
The thing is, Gimp serves that purpose today.  I can't comment on the
droves part.  :)

People don't have to break the law if they use Gimp.  People don't use
PhotoShop primarily because they like the UI, they use it for what it
can do with digital images.  People learn the PhotoShop UI so they can
do interesting things with those images.  People can do interesting
things with digital images using Gimp, but they do those things in a
different way.  I don't see anything wrong with that.
 I think the main thing is to think creatively about who Gimp's
 audience actually is.
This is a good point and one issue I see is those who are screaming for
a PhotoShop interface feel THEY are Gimp's actual audience when I'm not
even sure what Gimp's audience actually is.

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Re: [Gimp-user] blue + yellow = green

2006-02-28 Thread Tom Williams
Bram Kuijper wrote:
 Sure? Again, doesn't it say something about general usability of
 GIMP's GUI? A good GUI is characterized that it is 'understandable' by
 the great majority of users, inexperienced, experienced using other
 software platforms and experienced using GIMP. I work with GIMP daily
 and I try to convince other people that GIMP is a good choice. But I
 see also that all these users have larger difficulties to learn GIMP
 compared to other graphical software, because they have been already
 'poisoned' with general Windows GUIs (eg., GUIs in which menu's are
 always within the program interface and not separate 'windows', a
 standard set of shortcut keys, file menu handlers that are different
 from the GTK ones). If GIMP developers just ignore that, it sounds to
 me as if they just deliberately confine their software to a particular
 (and small) group of people. That is a big pity, because I believe
 that the more people use GIMP, the better the program becomes and the
 bigger the chances are that such OSS software stays on and remains in
 development.
(snip)
 Nope, I think he/she wants GIMP to be more usable for a wider range
 of users than it is now. It just happens that a large amount of users
 that think of switching to GIMP are PS users. Geez, how strange that
 people then propose improvements of the GIMP GUI that are inspired by
 PS's GUI? Are those wishes just totally ignored by people that claim
 to have a 'better' idea how software has to work?
I disagree with you on these two points.  A friend of mine fairly
recently started using Gimp for her own photo manipulation (resizing and
other basic functions).  She's running Windows XP and Windows is *all*
she knows (meaning she has no Mac or *nix experience whatsoever).   I'm
not sure if she had seen PhotoShop or not before but Gimp was her first
hands-on experience with any tool of it's nature.  She obviously
didn't know what any of the tools or functions were simply because she
had never used a tool like Gimp before.

Given that, she's gotten her head wrapped around the tool such that she
understands how to use some of the functions it performs and can
manipulate her images mostly as she wants (she's still learning how to
do things, as am I).  The point being, she had definitely been
poisoned by the general Windows UI and that wasn't a factor in her
Gimp experience.  Gimp looking exactly like PhotoShop or even MS Word
didn't change the fact she had no idea what a layer was or what a crop
tool was.  This brings me to the second point.

PS users wanting Gimp to look and affectively act like PS simply want
Gimp to be a free PS, so they can use it legally without having to pay
a boatload of money or without having to pirate a copy.  PS users are
very familiar with the PS UI (which is as overwhelming and user
UN-friendly as people can argue Gimp is) and aren't willing or aren't
capable of opening their minds to a different way of doing things.  This
is like a Windows user who complains about not being able to make Mac OS
X or Linux behave just like Windows or the Windows user who can't
differentiate between a word processor and Word (in this case, they
think ALL word processors are Word and assume everyone with a computer
has Word).

I think those who focus their expertise on the functions being performed
will have an easier time using ANY kind of PS-like app since it will be
a matter of finding or learning how any given app performs those
functions.  Those who focus their expertise on learning the UI get
programmed to the point of not having any chance of being productive
if the UI they are used to isn't around.

By virtue of the fact Gimp was chosen as the basis of Gimpshop, that
proves Gimp is very functional and does work.  The problem for PS users
is they simply can't let go of the PS UI and Gimpshop was born.

Now, I believe (could be mistaken) it's been the position of the Gimp
developers that Gimp is not intended to be PhotoShop so why change the
entire UI to look/act like PhotoShop?  It's not like attracting 50,000
PhotoShop users will result in tremendous donations to the Gimp
development effort or anything.  Of course, it would make those
PhotoShop users very happy since they get to almost have their cake and
eat it too. :)

I think a PhotoShop compatibility mode, that is integrated in Gimp,
would be a good compromise.  That way people still use Gimp first and
foremost and can simply have it look like PS instead of trying to change
Gimp into something it's not necessarily wanting or trying to be.

My $0.03...  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12

2006-02-25 Thread Tom Williams
Colin Brace wrote:
 Hi all,

 I hate having to bother this list with tiresome compile problems, but here 
 goes:

 Earlier this week, I installed 2.3.7 under Ubuntu (Breezy). At the
 moment, I am trying to do the same under Fedora Core 4, but I am
 having less success. In particular, I keep getting this error message
 from configure:

 checking for GTK+ - version = 2.8.8... no
 *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
 *** The test program compiled, but did not run. This usually means
 *** that the run-time linker is not finding GTK+ or finding the wrong
 *** version of GTK+. If it is not finding GTK+, you'll need to set your
 *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point
 *** to the installed location  Also, make sure you have run ldconfig if that
 *** is required on your system
 ***
 *** If you have an old version installed, it is best to remove it, although
 *** you may also be able to get things to work by modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 configure: error: Test for GTK+ failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
   
Run pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0 to see what version of GTK+ is
registered with pkg-config.  I think the Gimp configure script uses
pkg-config to get the locations of GLIB and GTK+ includes and libs.

If the version of GTK+ registered to pkg-config doesn't match what you
know is installed, you can fix that problem.

If you like, e-mail me your config.log and I can possibly let you know
what you need to fix.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12

2006-02-25 Thread Tom Williams
Colin Brace wrote:
 On 2/25/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 set PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkg-config picks up glib and gtk+ from the
 right locations.
 

 Ah, right, I changed that to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ to get glib to
 compile. Ok, so I now change it back to /usr/lib/pkgconfig/. Still no
 go. What am I missing?
   
Ok, in your config.log I found this:

---START

configure:26767: checking for GTK+ - version = 2.8.8
configure:26882: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall
-I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/local//include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo
-I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include conftest.c -L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/local//lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0
-lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0
-ldl -lglib-2.05
configure:26885: $? = 0
configure:26887: ./conftest
./conftest: error while loading shared libraries:
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
configure:26890: $? = 127
configure: program exited with status 127
configure: failed program was:


-END-

So, you need to fix your pango installation.  Is suggest installing
Cairo first:

http://cairographics.org/

and then pango:

ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.8/

and then try building Gimp 2.3.7.  Why libpangocairo is being linked in,
I don't know but that's the problem.  That is why the test program
didn't run.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?

2006-02-19 Thread Tom Williams
Paul Waldo wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am evaluating gimp on linux as a replacement for Photoshop on Windows.  I 
 am 
 currently using Photoshop/Windows primarily for the color management 
 capabilities.  I have tried printing from gimp to my Epson Stylus Photo 1280, 
 with horrible results--the colors are off by a significant amount.  System 
 specifics below.  Does anyone out there use gimp for serious printing?  If 
 so, please let me know your workflow and how you achieve color fidelity.  
 Thanks in advance!

 Paul

 Running:
 Kubuntu Breezy
 gimp 2.2.8
 gimp-print 4.2.7
 Epson Stylus Photo 1280
   
What version of Gimp-Print are you running:

http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/index.php3

Also, are you printing through CUPS?

When I have ink in my printer, I can print just fine on my Epson Stylus
Photo 700.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.3.6 on Slack current

2006-02-15 Thread Tom . Williams
If your system has Python installed, be sure to build Gimp with
--enable-python so you can pick up the Python-specific filters as well.
:)

Congrats on getting Gimp 2.3.6 up and running!

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I upgraded my Slack-current partition via swaret, which has its
own set of problems. I manually downloaded and installed
libcairo.so.2 from the Slack site. My adventures with Parser.pl
have already been described. Anyhow bottom line I now have a
working copy of 2.3.6 on site. The Gimp on Slack-current is now
up to 2.2.10 which is nice. Which one I actually use depends on
how far off the latest documentation is from the 2.3.x series.

It looks like Slack 11 and Gimp 2.4 will play nicely together.

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Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing

2006-02-10 Thread Tom . Williams
glib and gtk+ and other libs required by Gimp might be part of any current
Linux distro but they might not be the right versions required by any given
Gimp version.

As for the XML::Parser perl module, perl installations that come with Linux
distros will have some perl modules installed but not all.  I think it's
reasonable to require the system owner or the person who is building Gimp
to make sure external libs and apps are configured per Gimp's requirements.
In this case, that means the system owner is responsible for making sure
perl is setup per Gimp's requirements unless Gimp is being built with perl
support disabled (if that is an option).

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On Friday 10 February 2006 04:46 pm, Michael Schumacher wrote:
 John R. Culleton wrote:
  Not at all. I was noting that on two different flavors of linux
  it is necessary to download and install material beyond that
  contained in the Gimp download in order to get it to compile. And
  that wasn't true in prior versions.

 Um... you're kidding, right?

 GTK+
 Glib
 libpng
 libjpeg
 gcc
 make
 ...

 are also required and not included.

All these and Perl are either included in a standard full
installation of e.g., Slackware or Debian Sarge, As I stated earler
previous editions of Gimp have compiled without difficulty. I
have Slackware Current up to date as of yesterday. I have Debian Sarge up
to
date as of yesterday. I can compile older versions of Gimp.

My concern is not so much with 2.3.x but with 2.4. If that stable
version requires software bits and pieces not found on most
Linux systems and not downloadable from ww.gimp.org then there
is trouble ahead.

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Re: [Gimp-user] doing with the gimp what www.scanR.com does

2006-02-06 Thread Tom Williams
John R. Culleton wrote:
 On Monday 06 February 2006 01:10 am, peer miaskowski wrote:
   
 Hi list!

 Is it possible to do with the gimp (automatically?) what www.scanR.com
 
  does?

 On Linux systems Xsane, a scanner program, is a useful plugin. 
   
Yep, it works very well. :)

John, I've been sending you e-mail but I don't know if you've been
getting it.  Check your junk mail folder just in case.  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing

2006-02-04 Thread Tom Williams
John R. Culleton wrote:
 Tom, I never saw your original post but only Carol's reply. If
 you could help me dig my way out of the swamp off list or on
 list I would be grateful. I have Slack 10.2 installed. When Gimp
 2.3.6 failed I tried to  upgrade my libs and thoroughly messed
 them up. But I have a clean copy on another partition. So my game
 will be to upgrade on that partiton with your help. 

 Did you use slack Current or do you go directly to another source?
 If so, what sites? Did you deinstall the Slack packages first or not? 
 What exactly did you upgrade? 

 All assistance appreciated. 
   
We can do this off list so we won't clutter it.  :)   Once we get you up
and running, we can post an update for other Slackware users.  :)

Shoot me an e-mail if you haven't already.

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Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing

2006-02-03 Thread Tom Williams
Carol Spears wrote:
 does it fail this test if you ./configure --enable-mmx=no ?

 there is a chance that all of that mmx stuff was just Helvetix showing
 off.
   
I don't know.  It's not critical for me to have the 2.3.x development
releases running.  I was able to get 2.3.5 built and installed.  I've
always had problems with MMX support and I even opened a bug report on
my previous issue.  :)

I can certainly do a build with MMX disabled to see if that works and
report back my findings.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image Resolution

2005-12-29 Thread Tom Williams

Sven Neumann wrote:

Hi,

Demetrius Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

   Is there way to change the default image resolution in the Gimp for
   Windows so that I do not get the following message



   [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3944
   /gimpmessage7nk.jpg[/IMG][/URL]



You are getting this message because the image file you are opening
has an invalid image resolution. Changing the default resolution is
not going to change that. You better fix the image instead.
  

How could he fix the image?

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[Gimp-user] Question about scaling digital photos for prints

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Williams
A friend of mine took a bunch of photos using her Vivitar 3.2MP digital 
camera with the camera set at 640x480 resolution.  She wanted 4x6 prints 
of those and printed a bunch that came out looking all pixelated and 
basically like crap.   Since then, we've set her camera back to the max 
resolution since previous photos taken at this resolution printed fine 
as prints.


My question:  is there anyway to use Gimp to scale the 640x480 images so 
they look as best as possible (no pixelation if possible) as 4x6 
prints?  I've scaled the images to 4x6 and have increased pixels per 
inch and have run many filters with no real success.   Or is my friend 
basically stuck with what she has?


Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing GIMPed photos

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Williams

Helen wrote:

Is anyone able to recommend the best (or a good) printer
for a Gimp user on a Linux (SuSE) system?  I want good
quality prints, with good color.  Cost is a factor, but
is not the most important factor.  Gimp is the only
photo-editing program I use, but I don't have to use
Gimp for printing.  I could learn to use Scribus for
printing, if that's recommended.
Thanks for any help with this.

Helen, using GIMP 2.2.9, SuSE 10
see my photos at  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettervor/

Gimp uses Gimp-Print for printing so if you see the list of supported 
printers at the Gimp-Print website (use Google to search for Gimp-Print 
to find the URL of the site), you can find a printer that suits your 
needs best.  :)


Good luck!

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Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.3.3 What The GIMP development release

2005-08-10 Thread Tom . Williams

Is it advisable to install the current development glib/gtk+ 2.7 libs to go along with this Gimp development release or should the stable glib/gtk+ libraries be used?

Peace...

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Hi,

a week after some of us spent their weekend at a hacker gathering in
the dutch swamps (see http://www.whatthehack.org/), a new development
release is presented to you. GIMP version 2.3.3, dubbed What The
GIMP, is a preview on the upcoming GIMP 2.4.

This release features the prototype of a new foreground selection tool
that is being developed in cooperation with the department of Computer
Science at the Freie Universität Berlin. The SIOX algorithm makes
selection of foreground objects a lot easier. Instead of trying to
trace the object boundary, the user now only has to specify the region
of interest and some representative foreground pixels. SIOX (Simple
Interactive Foreground eXtraction) does the rest, see
http://www.siox.org/

More details can be found in the press release:

 http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.3.html

The source code of GIMP 2.3.3 can be downloaded from the usual places:

 http://gimp.org/downloads#mirrors

If you want to give it a try, please read the release notes for
development releases:

 http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.3.html

Last, but not least, here's the detailed list of changes since GIMP 2.3.2:

- improved new GimpPageSelector widget
- minor improvements to the Procedure and Plug-In browsers
- set alternative button order in some places that were missed earlier
- added SIOX algorithm for foreground extraction
- fixed most gcc 4.0 warnings
- improved Cursor view and Sample Points functionality
- prepared code and UI for more layer lock types
- added new PDF import plug-in based on libpoppler
- undeprecated and improved palette editor, added cursor navigation
- show more information in the Image Properties dialog
- added prototype of SIOX foreground selection tool
- fixed build of MMX code on gcc 4.0
- moved procedure browser to libgimpwidgets as GimpProcBrowserDialog
- canonicalize PDB procedure and parameter names
- use the coefficients from the sRGB spec when calculating luminance
- allow to remove alpha channel from a layer
- added more different cursors for the paths tool
- bug fixes and code cleanup


Happy GIMPing, Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about the exif browser

2005-07-30 Thread Tom Williams

Ok,  I'll try re-building to see if that fixes it.

Thanks!

Peace...

Tom

falolaf wrote:


I have EXIF browser working with the same Gimp version as you are on
MandrivaLinux 2005LE.

/Anders

Tom Williams wrote:
 


Hi!  I'm running Gimp 2.2.8 on Linux and I just noticed the EXIF browser
doesn't seem to be working.  I've got an image that is known to have
EXIF data yet the EXIF browser reports there is none attached.

Does the EXIF browser work for anyone else?

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[Gimp-user] Question about the exif browser

2005-07-29 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  I'm running Gimp 2.2.8 on Linux and I just noticed the EXIF browser 
doesn't seem to be working.  I've got an image that is known to have 
EXIF data yet the EXIF browser reports there is none attached.


Does the EXIF browser work for anyone else?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] use of the Space key

2005-05-25 Thread Tom Williams

Sven Neumann wrote:


Spacebar to switch temporarily to move is awfully useful. I didn't
know about it until this discussion, but I've often wanted something
like that
   



See, that is exactly my point. The feature is not discoverable and it
might make sense to exchange it for something which is probably at
least as useful but wider known.
 



I'm in the same boat in that I didn't discover the current space bar 
behavior and now that I know about it, I think it's great.  The reason I 
didn't discover it is purely because I never thought to press the space 
bar at all.   I've got no issue with changing the behavior of the space 
bar but the main point is I didn't know about the behavior associated 
with the space bar because I never thought to press the space bar, 
regardless of the functionality associated with it/


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 changes

2005-05-16 Thread Tom Williams
j Mak wrote:
I like the implementation of transient window
management system; it was a very good idea and works
very well on my gnome desktop. 
 

What is the transient window management system?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better

2005-05-14 Thread Tom Williams
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Suh-weet  One feature I would like to see added is the ability to
select regions of the screen when taking a screenshot, like PrintKey
on Windows can.

The CVS version does that already.
Suh-weet!  Ship it!  :D
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[Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better

2005-05-12 Thread Tom Williams
Alan Horkan wrote:
[please trim the subject line in your responses]
Ok.  :)
I think most users are frustrated by the gimp and less frustrated by
photoshop and the easiest way for them to express that is to make simple
comparisons rather than being able to suggest better ways to do things.
Yeah, this makes sense.  :)
What can the GNU Image Manipulation Program do that Adobe Photoshop cannot
do?  Please do tell.  I have recently pointed out that the gimp allows you
to have files with multiple layers in Indexed Mode and photoshop does not.
I would like to be able to expand on this list of things I know the gimp
can do better.
I would very sincerely be interested to know other things you can do with
the GNU Image manipulation program that cannot be done with other
software, particuarly things that cannot be done in Adobe Photoshop.
Some have already posted some features Gimp has PhotoShop doesn't and/or things 
Gimp does PhotoShop can't do or can't do as well.  I haven't spent a lot of time 
using PhotoShop and I installed a trial version of PhotoShop Elements to check 
it out. I don't know how elements differs from the full-blown version of 
PhotoShop.

Here are some things I found I couldn't do with PhotoShop Elements and I'm sure 
someone will correct me if they are possible with the full-blown PhotoShop:

*)  Take screenshots.  I often take screenshots of Gimp or other apps, if not 
the desktop.  The cool thing about doing it *within* the graphics app is I can 
immediately scale, resize, or otherwise manipulate the image without having to 
use one app to take the screenshot and another to do the manipulation.

*)  Have a finer granularity of control over sharpening images.  With PS 
Elements, I could keep clicking the sharpen more menu option to sharpen the 
image I had loaded.  With Gimp, I can dial-in the precise amount of sharpening I 
want using the sharpen filter.  I didn't think to compare the number or types 
of sharpening filters that came with Gimp vs PS Elements.

*)  The ability to perform manipulations on multiple images at once.  I was 
running an effects filter on a rather large image while I had 3 or 4 other 
images loaded.  I'm running on a Pentium II 350MHz machine w/ 256MB of RAM and 
given my application mix, I had at least double that (if not more) allocated, 
meaning I was definitely using swap.  I'm running on Linux.  This one filter was 
taking its time to run, given the size of the image, and I was able to start 
other filters and work on the other images while that first filter was running. 
 I was also scanning images while running the filter, etc.  I don't know what 
kind of simultaneous multi-image processing capabilities PS has. I didn't think 
to try this with PS Elements, unfortunately.

Those are three things I have personal experience with, at least with Gimp.  :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection

2005-05-11 Thread Tom . Williams





I'm running Gimp 2.2.6 on Windows 2000 and when I open a folder of images,
a thumbnail preview appears for each image I select.

I can send a screenshot if desired.

Peace

Tom



   
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Michael Schumacher wrote:
With the new file selector, is it possible to have the thumbnail view
that the previous file selector had?


 How about trying it yourself? :)


 HTH,
 Michael


Michael,

On Windows version of gimp, there is no thumbnail in the open window.
If you know a way to have thumnails there, please tell me how, I would
like to have it working as on my linux box at home.

Best regards,

Olivier.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails

2005-05-10 Thread Tom Williams
David Marrs wrote:

Easier for whom? the users or the developers?  Since there's only one 
GIMP set-up anyway, I don't see how it makes a difference; any 
suggestion I make is going to be a direct result of the default GIMP 
set-up that I'm using. I'm not biased by Photoshop, PSP or anything 
else, I'm just acutely aware of the user interface's short comings and 
I'm trying to address them.

Making GIMP newbies (which I'm not, btw) learn the interface until they 
get used to it only means that they'll get used to the GIMP's short 
comings, not that they'll go away. It's just the same as how Windows 
users put up with their interface, all the time forgetting how 
restrictive it is. When it's all you can see, it becomes normal. It's 
only after you come back to Windows after spending months away, using a 
different OS like Linux+Gnome, that you suddenly realise how poor 
Windows actually is. If Microsoft were trying to get users to migrate 
from GNU/Linux to Windows, they'd be out of business in weeks.

So I think you unwittingly hit the nail on the head with regard to the 
GIMP's problem: it insists that its users conform to its way of doing 
things instead of being malleable so that different users with different 
approaches can tailor it to suit their needs. Its approach obviously 
works for you, which is why you're happy with it. Just try to remember 
that your way isn't necessarily the *right* way.
I agree 100% with this, very well stated.  I think PhotoShop users suffer from 
this as well as they don't realize the PhotoShop way isn't necessarily the 
*right* way.

Great post!
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Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails

2005-05-09 Thread Tom Williams
Kalle Ounapuu wrote:
The bug-tracker serves it's purpose, but you can't expect everyone to be reading it over before making any comment about GIMP.
I agree.  People use Gimp (or try to) and have a problem or criticism and post 
their feedback here instead of filing bug/enhancement reports or looking to see 
what is already documented in Bugzilla, etc.

Maybe there are GIMP users who would love everyone to drop Photoshop (or whatever) and use GIMP.
You know, I'm not sure this is really the case.  At least not based on 
discussion I've seen on this mailing list.  I think a lot of frustration stems 
from people slamming Gimp for simply not looking, feeling, behaving, or tasting 
exactly like PhotoShop.  It's almost like if it's not PhotoShop, it's crap.  The 
focus tends to be on what PhotoShop does that Gimp doesn't do and almost no 
mention is made of the things Gimp can do that PhotoShop can't.

If so, they will have to deal with more of this. 
I think constructive criticism on Gimp's UI, usability, features or missing 
features is what is desired much more than the Gimp sucks cuz it can't do this 
obscure thing PhotoShop can kinds of comments.

Not everyone can spend the time to search something out, or in fact they don't care, they would rather voice it out right away.
Yep, you're right on the money here.  I think the bulk of the new Gimp users 
don't even think to look at Bugzilla or maybe even the mailing list archives 
before posting their comments since they are frustrated or focused on what they 
are trying to do with Gimp and simply post questions or comments to get 
immediate help.  I know I tend to do the same from time to time but I try to 
search the mailing list archives before posting a question to see if it has 
already been discussed.

Peace...
Tom
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Hi,
Gezim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 07:04 -0700, Carol Spears wrote:

a forum where they can constantly bombard and belittle TheGIMP and are
free to do so and the best they can pull out of their over-extended
reasoning is this layers effect stuff.
I'm not sure who they are, but if you're referring to people in this
list that are not afraid to admit gimp's weaknesses, these people have
every right to point them out. You can't fix a problem if you don't even
accept it. Lack of layer effects is not a problem?

You are perfectly right that it is important to point out weak spots.
The discussions that have been happening on this list lately have
however not pointed out a singleq weak spots that wouldn't have been
well-known already. Bringing up stuff that is already in the
bug-tracker and on the roadmap for years doesn't really help anyone.
Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

2005-05-05 Thread Tom Williams
Gezim Hoxha wrote:

The drop shadow, I think, was just an example. What if, instead, I
wanted to make a bevel depth of a button deeper? The layers wouldn't
help me out, would they? In photoshop however, all I'd have to do is
drag a slider!
Gotcha.  :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

2005-05-04 Thread Tom Williams
j Mak wrote:
Using them you
can experiment with various settings without changing
the set up of your layer structure. In addition, you
can edit your artwork, even months or years after
finishing it, simply by altering the Adjustment layer
or changing the layer effects parameters. For
instance, if I decide at some point that don't want
drop shadows anymore, I simply click on the layer
effect representing the shadow and I turn it off, or
add other effect if I want to.
I'm not a PhotoShop user so please excuse the question but how does your example 
*not* change the setup of the layer structure?

If I add a drop shadow to something in Gimp, the drop shadow is in a layer an I 
show or hide.  How is that different from the Adjustment layer you describe? 
I'm sure it is but I don't know how it differs.  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp/Gimpshop poll

2005-04-29 Thread Tom . Williams





Thanks for the info!  :)

I voted for Gimp.  :)

Peace...

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Just noticed that pclinuxonline.com is having a poll where members choose
between GIMP and GIMPSHOP. So far, it's running close to 50-50.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
David Herman wrote:
(snip)
Not to disparrage the hard work that was put into this hack but...
Let gimp be gimp and photoshop be photoshop.
I completely agree.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GimpShop

2005-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
Frédéric wrote:

(snip)
If someone really want to use Gimp, he will find the menu. If gimpshop can 
help to migrate from Photoshop, this is OK. And if Gimp gives choice to 
arrange menus, this is great. Each one can choose the best solution for 
him.
Based on the positive feedback on that blog, it sounds more like people are 
looking for a free PhotoShop than trying to migate to Gimp.  The more Gimp 
looks and feels like PhotoShop, the more people will think of it like PhotoShop 
and then come the change requests to have Gimp behave more in a PhotoShop-ish 
manner.

When you use the phrase migrate from PhotoShop, I interpret that to mean 
utilize tools or information to help ease the transition from the old to the 
new, which is something I don't think will happen with GimpShop.

If you go back and read some of the commentary in the blog, people are 
indirectly associating a good UI with a PhotoShop UI.  This doesn't mean the 
PhotoShop UI is a good UI but since so many are familiar with it, they 
consider PhotoShop as having a good UI instead of the reality of it having a 
familiar UI.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread Tom . Williams





Those who crave a PhotoShop interface almost finally have it.  :)

Thanks for the link.  I will pass on this..

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Anyone tried GimpShop yet? Just wondering what the buzz is all about.

http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241

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Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Williams
wayne wrote:
One thing good about GimpShop is that I am now able to run Gimp 2.2.4. Have 
not been able to install a RPM successfully till now.

Wayne
:)
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[Gimp-user] Question about Flares in Gimp

2005-02-21 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  Ok, I've used the GFlares that come with Gimp (I use Gimp 2.2.3 on Linux) 
and they're cool.  I'm looking for some more basic flares, like the one in 
this image:

http://www.missingimages.com/photoshopjokes/images/lens_flares.jpg
or one like that in a + shape.  Is it difficult to make flares or can a future 
release of Gimp contain more flares?

Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about scaling images in Gimp 2.2.1

2005-01-10 Thread Tom Williams
Carol Spears wrote:
okay, i am responding to my own email, i read somewhere that this is not
the best way to start your day or something.
the discussion was on this list and the promise was that it would be
fixed in the 2.2.2 release which was out yesterday.
i guess i just wish that it be restored to the scale dialog where i am
used to having it.
carol
Yep, it's back to the old behavior in 2.2.2.  Thanks!
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[Gimp-user] Question about scaling images in Gimp 2.2.1

2005-01-09 Thread Tom Williams
Ok, so I was trying to scale an image and I right-clicked and clicked Image, 
then Scale Image, and when the scale image dialog appears I changed the units 
from pixels to percentage and the number changed from pixels to some LARGE 
number (like over 2000). When I specify a percentage that I want to scale to, 
say 75%, the image scales down to something tiny (like 8 x 9 pixels).

How does one scale an image by a percentage using Gimp 2.2.x?
Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.2-pre2

2004-11-20 Thread Tom Williams
I'm getting this result running make check to test Gimp 2.2-pre2 build:
Running gimp_composite_3dnow tests...
gimp_composite_3dnow: Instruction set is not available.
PASS: gimp-composite-3dnow-test
PASS: gimp-composite-altivec-test
Running gimp_composite_mmx tests...
FAIL: gimp-composite-mmx-test
Running gimp_composite_sse tests...
gimp_composite_sse: Instruction set is not available.
PASS: gimp-composite-sse-test
Running gimp_composite_sse2 tests...
gimp_composite_sse2: Instruction set is not available.
PASS: gimp-composite-sse2-test
PASS: gimp-composite-vis-test
=
1 of 6 tests failed
Please report to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GIMP
=
make[3]: *** [check-TESTS] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/build/gimp-2.2-pre2/app/composite'
make[2]: *** [check-am] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/build/gimp-2.2-pre2/app/composite'
make[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/gimp-2.2-pre2/app'
make: *** [check-recursive] Error 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/gimp-2.2-pre2$ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.4.3
Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/gimp-2.2-pre2$ pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0
2.4.7
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/gimp-2.2-pre2$ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
2.4.13
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/gimp-2.2-pre2$ ldd --version
ldd (GNU libc) 2.3.2
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Written by Roland McGrath and Ulrich Drepper.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/gimp-2.2-pre2$
A bug report has been submitted.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Tom . Williams





The goal for 2.2 was to achieve a consistent and pleasant look. We
followed the advices of the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines and used
the spacings suggested there for most dialogs.

Does this mean Gimp on Windows will have a GNOME feel to it?

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp in one window

2004-09-19 Thread Tom Williams
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
William Skaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

You might take a look at
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892
which is a plug-in called Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer.  It is rather
deprecated by the GIMP developers because of the obnoxious name and
inelegant coding, but a substantial number of Windows GIMP users seem
to like it in spite of its imperfections.
   

I would suggest to not use this plug-in but use a virtual desktop
instead. There are several implementation for virtual desktops on
Windows and, from what I heard, whoever tried it doesn't want to miss
that functionality any longer.
Sven
 

Why would a virtual desktop be preferred?  Would it be to keep all of 
the Gimp windows on the other desktop to keep the main desktop 
relatively clutter free?

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Re: [Gimp-user] New Splash Screen for Gimp

2004-09-16 Thread Tom Williams
Jozsef Mak wrote:
I am new to this mailing list but I have been using Gimp, with great 
satisfaction, for about a year. When I download a new version of the 
application, one of the first things I usually do is replace its 
splash screen with my own design. I think, Gimp needs a clean, 
minimalist and modern splash screen, which matches to adobe and 
macromedias products. This is what I tried to achieve with this 
design. You can look at it here 
http://web.295.ca/jmak/wallpapers/screensavers.htm and everyone 
welcome to download it. Its saved in .png format and is ready to be 
installed. Feedback would be appreciated.

This is one Gimp user who prefers the About splash screen to either 
the current Gimp splash screen or this new one. This new one is very 
clean and attractive but lacks a certain quality that About screen has. :)

Just my opinion. :)
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[Gimp-user] Question about printing images

2004-09-03 Thread Tom Williams
I'm running Gimp 2.0.4 on Linux with glib-2.4.6, gtk+-2.4.7, XFree86 
4.4.0, and gimp-print 4.2.6.  When I open an image (JPEG), it looks 
perfect.  When I print it to my Epson Stylus Photo 700, the image prints 
ok but it has a red tint to it.  Would this be a problem with gimp-print 
or Gimp?

Thanks...
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Vs. Photoshop

2004-08-29 Thread Tom Williams
Asif Lodhi wrote:
Hi All
I always read posts regarding GIMP vs. Photoshop.
 

Wow!  Interesting comments!  How do you feel about comments comparing 
GIMP and PhotoShop like this:

http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/30/217225tid=92tid=152tid=8
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Vs. Photoshop

2004-08-29 Thread Tom Williams
Asif Lodhi wrote:
Though I am not fighting tool wars here ;), I would
certainly like to present my humble replies to the
honorary views presented by the poster on Slashdot.
 

Thanks for the commentary!  :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.0.4

2004-08-22 Thread Tom Williams
Alf C Stockton wrote:
2) Text tool in the new gimp does not give me the option to select 
fonts or
text size or colour. Again please tell me what I have missed?
I'm also running Gimp 2.0.4 on Slackware (Slack 8) and the new text tool 
DOES allow you to select fonts and text size and color.

Take a look at this screenshot:
http://gimp.org/screenshots/linux_screenshot2.png
Below the toolbox we're all used to, you'll see the settings for the 
text tool, since the text tool is selected in the toolbox. Alternativ 
for Text is the the title of this area in the screenshot.

The Typsnitt field in the screenshot is for choosing the desired 
font.  In English, that would read Font.

The Storlek field in the screenshot is for choosing the desired font 
size.  In English, that would read Size.

The Farg field in the screenshot is for choosing the desired font 
color.  In English, that would read Color.

And so on  SO, when if you see the text tool settings tab/dialog 
appear similar to the screenshot above when you choose the text tool, 
then you should be able to do everything you want there.   I've changed 
my Gimp installation to have the options tabs for the tools appear in 
the same dialog as the layers tab, which is in a separate dialog.

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[Gimp-user] Question about settings colors with the Text Tool in gimp 2.0.4

2004-08-21 Thread Tom Williams
I'm running Gimp 2.0.4 on Linux and I've got an image with some colored 
text loaded and I want to create a new image with different text with 
the same color.  So, here is what I do:

1. Load the image with the colored text
2. Use the color chooser tool to choose the color of the text
3. Create a new image with black background
4. Choose the text tool
At this point, the color I chose using the color chooser tool has 
changed to black.

5. I repeat step #2 above
6. I repeat step #4 above
Now, I'm stuck in a manual loop.  :)   So, I figured once I choose the 
color of the text using the color chooser, I can double click the box 
with the current foreground color to open the Change Foreground Color 
box and leave it open.  Then I choose the text tool and drag the color 
from the Change Foreground Color dialog to the color box in the text 
tool and now I can create the new text with the desired color.

Is there an easier way of doing this?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed making a gradient in Gimp 2.0.1

2004-06-19 Thread Tom Williams
matt-nc wrote:
At 08:07 PM 6/19/04 -0700, you wrote:
Ok, I'm trying to make a gradient that looks exactly like this:
http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/graident.jpg

FYI  (spelling correction for the link)
http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gradient.jpg
Doh!  Sorry about that!  Thanks for the correction.  :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.0.2

2004-06-16 Thread Tom Williams
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
GIMP version 2.0.2 is now available from
 ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.0/.
Please use one of the mirrors listed at
 
 http://www.gimp.org/downloads/#mirrors

This is a bug-fix release in the stable 2.0 series. Quite some bugs
have been fixed so an update is highly recommened.
I'm in the process of installing Gimp 2.0.2 now on my Slackware 8-based 
Linux system.  The compile ran fine but make check seems to be hung, 
as follows:

creating gimp-composite-vis-test
PASS: gimp-composite-3dnow-test
PASS: gimp-composite-altivec-test
Running gimp_composite_mmx tests...
addition  0.2332020 0.1220870 1.9101297
burn  0.8204870 0.8273560 0.9916976*
darken0.3861310 0.1078950 3.5787664
difference0.4151760 0.1127570 3.6820419
grain_extract 0.3994780 0.1456820 2.7421233
grain_merge   0.3610750 0.1152280 3.1335700
lighten   0.4674190 0.1361150 3.4340007
multiply  0.2719920 0.1154380 2.3561739
It's been at this point all day (output from 'top'):
29660 tom   25   0 33172  25m 2332 R 69.4  5.1 538:52.00 
lt-gimp-composi 

Is it important that make check complete or can I just cancel the test 
and install?

Thanks...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background transparent?

2004-06-11 Thread Tom Williams
I was able to make the white background transparent following this 
procedure using Gimp 2.0.1 on Linux.  This procedure should be platform 
independent and possibly release independent:

1)  Open the image
2)  On the Layers dialog, create a new transparent layer
3)  Click on the Background layer so the original image is selected
4)  Use the Select By Color tool to select the white (Right click on 
the image, click on Select then on By color and choose the white 
background with the mouse pointer)
5)   Right click on the image and click Select then Grow and grow 
the selection by 1 pixel
6)   Invert the selection by right-clicking on the image and Select 
then Invert
7)   Then copy the selection by right clicking on the image then Edit 
then Copy
8)On the layers dialog, select the transparent layer so it is the 
currrent/active layer
9)  Right click on the image and click Edit then Paste
10) Click the Anchor button on the layers dialog to anchor the image 
you just pasted
11)  Click the eye icon to the left of the original image layer with 
the Background name and the white background should disappear

This process can be simplified using layer masks:
1)  Open the image
2)  On the Layers dialog, right click on the Background layer and 
click Add Alpha Channel
3)  Right click on the image and click Select then  By color
4)   Right click on the image and click Select then Grow and grow 
the selection by 1 pixel
5)  Choose the white background with the mouse pointer
6)  On the Layers dialog, right-click on the Background layer and click 
Add Layer Mask  Select the White (Full Opacity) mask option
7) Right click on the image and click Edit Fill with FG color and 
the white background should disappear
8)  On the Layers dialog, right click on the Background layer and click 
Apply Layer Mask
9)  At this point, you must decide if you want to save as GIF or PNG 
since JPEG does not support transparency and save the image.  Be sure to 
use Save As to save the image so you won't clobber the orignal.

I'm sure others can fine tune this procedure as well but I just did it 
and the image does have a transparent background.

Hope this helps!  :)
Peace
Tom
dreadnought wrote:
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the reply!  I've been trying all the suggestions I've been
getting through this mailing list, and still have not been able to get the
background of my test image transparent.  Here's the link again for the
image I'm working on: 

http://www.pelican.com/imatges/3cases_1620.jpg
I went through all the Gimp options after right-clicking on the image, and
do not see any add alpha channel .. I've been browsing FAQ's on the net
regarding the Gimp, and have seen that images that are not in RGB can be
problematic.   Just for kicks, I went and tried to change mode to RGB, but
RGB is greyed out for this image.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Steve Stavropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: dreadnought
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Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background
transparent?

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, dreadnought wrote:
 

I've been using the technique mentioned in the email below to try to 
get images with white backgrounds transparent .. I've had some good 
luck, but also some bad.  Today I used the process on two .jpg's and 
the *entire* images ended up transparent.  In one of the images, the 
foreground color is actually black.  I've got the color picker on 
white and then do a color to alpha on white.  The entire image 
(including the black stuff in the middle) gets the alternating boxes
   

indicative of transparency.
 

This behaviour is the expected. Color to alpha removes the selected color
from all the colors in the image in such a way that when you put the image
above a background of that color you will get your original image.
To do what you want, and that is to just erase a specific color, you
should:
1) add an alpha channel to your layer if it hasn't got any yet (right click
on the layer and add alpha channel)
2) Select - Select by Color
3) Edit - Clear


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[Gimp-user] Question about Exif browser plug-in

2004-05-23 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  I was installing various Gimp 2.0 plugins on Linux this morning and 
installed the Exif browser so I could check it out:

http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4153
I can't seem to find any information on how to actually invoke the 
plugin to see the Exif data and I was wondering if anyone knew how to do 
this.  :)

The doc that comes with the plugin discusses many things EXCEPT how to 
actually run the plugin.  :)

Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Exif browser plug-in

2004-05-23 Thread Tom Williams
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:
Le 23.05.2004 20:57:24, Tom Williams a écrit :
Hi!  I was installing various Gimp 2.0 plugins on Linux this morning  
and installed the Exif browser so I could check it out:

http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4153
I can't seem to find any information on how to actually invoke the  
plugin to see the Exif data and I was wondering if anyone knew how 
to  do this.  :)

The doc that comes with the plugin discusses many things EXCEPT how  
to actually run the plugin.  :)

Load the picture then from the Image window:
Filters - generic - exif browser
Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Exif browser plug-in

2004-05-23 Thread Tom Williams
David Neary wrote:
Hi Tom,
 

(snip)
Alternatively, and perhaps simpler for a normal user, is to
open the plug-in details plug-in (Xtns-Plugin details), and
search for exif in the list view, then switch to the tree view to
see where it is in the menu tree.
 

Thanks for this info!  I was able to find the plug-in and check out the 
Exif info.  Using Xtns-Plugin details is something I'll start doing 
more.  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Web background

2004-05-07 Thread Tom . Williams





Depending on the JPEG quality threshold you specify, you might not see any
change in the image itself even though the file size WILL be smaller.  This
is a GOOD thing to me. :)

Crank the image quality down to 10% and see if you see any quality
degredation.  :)  If you're specify quality in the 80 - 100% range, you
might not readily see any differences in image quality unless you look very
carefully.

Good luck!

Peace

Tom



   
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On Thu, 6 May 2004, Steve Crane wrote:

 On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:06:30PM +0200, Alf C Stockton wrote:
  I cannot find a way in Gimp 2.0.1 to decrease the file size of an image
so that
  I can load it as a background in an HTML file and have acceptable load
times.

 If the image is a photograph choose File | Save As... and save the image
 as a JPEG (jpg extension) with a different name than the original (you
 probably don't want to overwrite it).  The Save As JPEG dialog will be
 displayed.  Make sure that the Preview (in image window) option is
 turned on.  This both displays the size the file will be and updates the
 image window to show what the resulting image will look like.  Then use
 the Quality slider to achieve a balance between the file size and the
 image quality.

 snip
 snip end
Steve Crane,
Thanks for the tip. I have snipped the rest of your message for it is a
photograph.
I did not know about the Preview option in the save window. A point however
is
that with Gimp-2.0.1 I see the file size changing but nothing seems to
change in
the image. Is this old eyes or am I being thick again?

---

Regards,
Alf Stockton www.stockton.co.za

This is the LAST time I take travel suggestions from Ray Bradbury!
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[Gimp-user] Help needed with Gimp Bugzilla

2004-05-07 Thread Tom . Williams




Ok, I've forgotten my Gimp Bugzilla password and I've requested the
password be sent to me.  I was e-mailed the link to use to reset my
password:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/token.cgi?a={some mangled token}

and when I access that link I get 403 Forbidden errors.  :(

=
Forbidden


You don't have permission to access /token.cgi on this server.

=


Additionally, I get teh same error when I try to list all of the open Gimp
bugs:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=GIMPbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENED

=
Forbidden


You don't have permission to access /buglist.cgi on this server.


=


Any ideas on what's going on?


Thanks in advance...


Peace...


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Re: [Gimp-user] specify png background color?

2004-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
Zhang Weiwu wrote:

Hello. I have a png logo with alpha channel, it looks good on every 
browser excepte IE, which rander the alpha channel to a single color.

I wish to set the optional png background color to be #222, the 
background color of the webpage where the logo is. In this case even 
IE failed to rander alpha channel the picture is still displayed with 
a not-very-ugly background.

But how? Is it possible? (I am using GIMP pre-2.0)

If this can't be done with Gimp, you can use TweakPNG:

http://entropymine.com/jason/tweakpng/

This is a Windows app that can be used to set PNG attributes, like the 
background color.  This also runs under wine on Linux.  :)

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[Gimp-user] Help needed stroking an eliptical selection

2004-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  I'm trying to make an elliptical border around part of an image, 
sort of like a picture frame.  I use the Select Elliptical Regions 
tool to select my region.  Then I choose the color I want for the 
selection and I choose a 5x5 solid circle brush to use for the stroke of 
the selection.  Then I right-click on the image and click Edit... 
Stroke Selection and my frame appears around the image. Cool.

I noticed there are some jagged edges along parts of the frame and I 
would like to know if there's a way they can be eliminated.

Here is a screenshot illustrating what I've got thus far:

http://www.pixhost.com/pixt/tomdkat/stroke.jpg

The top and bottom of the frame look great but the sides have the jagged 
edges.  Is there any way I can eliminate the jagged edges?

Once I have the frame, my plan is to add a bevel to it to give it more 
of a real frame look.  :)  Here is a sample of the above image with a 
5-thickness setting Script-Fu bevel:

http://www.pixhost.com/pixt/tomdkat/stroke-bevel.jpg*

*I've found the higher the bevel thickness, the more pronounced the 
jagged edges are.  :(

I'm using Gimp 2.0 on Linux.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help needed stroking an eliptical selection

2004-04-03 Thread Tom Williams
Simon Budig wrote:

Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   

Hi!  I'm trying to make an elliptical border around part of an image,
sort of like a picture frame.  I use the Select Elliptical Regions
tool to select my region.  Then I choose the color I want for the
selection and I choose a 5x5 solid circle brush to use for the stroke
of the selection.  Then I right-click on the image and click
Edit... Stroke Selection and my frame appears around the
image. Cool.
I noticed there are some jagged edges along parts of the frame and I
would like to know if there's a way they can be eliminated.
 

Don't use the paintbrush to stroke the selection, but use the Stroke
options in the upper part of the Stroke dialog.
   

Well, unfortunately this doesn't help much. The better way to fix this
is to convert the selection boundary to a path and stroke the path.
I tried hacking the boundary stroking to get a better stroking, but
my experiments turned out to lead to unexpected results. A discussion of
this is in bug #50730.
Bye,
   Simon
 

Thanks for the tip!  Converting the selection to a path seems be working 
much better for me!  :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.0 - Congrats!

2004-03-24 Thread Tom Williams
Eric Pierce wrote:

Well done, everyone!

It's been a pure joy following the 1.3 devel series and watching all the
new goodies  ideas pour into the Gimp.
You are all a part of something truly big and beautiful!

My sincerest appreciation,
Eric Pierce
 

I agree 100%!  Gimp 2.0 rocks and everyone who helped make it what it is 
today should be very proud!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where does 2.0 find its fonts?

2004-03-24 Thread Tom Williams
John Culleton wrote:

I only got to play with rc1 for less than a day and along 
comes 2.0.0 the real thing. I did useful work already with 
2.0.0rc1 But I had trouble configuring extra fonts. The 
usual drill is to install e.g., freefont according to the 
directions in the file, including a couple of fp runs. This 
pus the freefont collection out where xfontsel can see them 
but Gimp doesn't see them at all. 

The real 2.0.0 is compiling as I write. So what is the scoop 
on installing additional fonts in Gimp like the freefont 
and sharefont collections?  
 

I've got over 1000 Windows TrueType fonts configured in XFree86 4.4.0 on 
Linux that Gimp 2.0 can access just fine.

I followed the process of installing fonts in X, documented here:

http://www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/fonts2.html#9

First, I followed the steps in section 2.2.2 and then I ran fc-cache, 
as mentioned in sextion 2.1.1:

http://www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/fonts2.html#4

I forget if I needed to restart X or not but all of my fonts are 
accessible using the new text tool just fine.  The Windows TTFs I have 
installed I downloaded from http://www.1001freefonts.com/

I don't know if you're looking for TTF support like I'm using or support 
for other fonts.  If you're running XFree86 4.3.0 or later, the above 
info should be all you need (read through all the font docs) to make the 
fonts accessible to Gimp.

Good luck... :)

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[Gimp-user] Questions about Gimp 2.0

2004-03-22 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  Ok, I just installed Gimp 2.0rc1 on Linux.  The build went smoothly 
and I noticed the executable was installed as gimp instead of 
gimp-1.3.  I accidentally clobbered my Gimp 1.2.5 installation but I 
can build that again.  :)

Anywho, I was wondering if/when the Add Glow and the Perl-o-Tine 
filters would be available, if ever, in Gimp 2.0?  I've been using the 
1.3 releases for a while primarily and 1.2.5 for things I needed, like 
Perl-o-Tine and Add Glow. I noticed Py-slice works similarly to 
Perl-o-tine but Py-slice doesn't support RGB images.  :(

Thanks...

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[Gimp-user] Re: Questions about Gimp 2.0

2004-03-22 Thread Tom Williams
Carol Spears wrote:

On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 09:58:40PM -0800, Tom Williams wrote:
 

Hi!  Ok, I just installed Gimp 2.0rc1 on Linux.  The build went smoothly 
and I noticed the executable was installed as gimp instead of 
gimp-1.3.  I accidentally clobbered my Gimp 1.2.5 installation but I 
can build that again.  :)

   

you should not need to rebuild that.  it will be named gimp-1.2 and you
might need to include the path to start it.  gimp is a symbolic link
and you can rm it and if you prefer that gimp-1.2 be the default gimp
then type ln -s gimp-1.2 gimp in that directory (probably
/usr/local/bin if you built it yourself).
 

Great!  I can run gimp-1.2.. That will work just fine.  :)

Anywho, I was wondering if/when the Add Glow and the Perl-o-Tine 
filters would be available, if ever, in Gimp 2.0?  I've been using the 
1.3 releases for a while primarily and 1.2.5 for things I needed, like 
Perl-o-Tine and Add Glow. I noticed Py-slice works similarly to 
Perl-o-tine but Py-slice doesn't support RGB images.  :(

   

py-slice works on RGB images.  it is not as complete as perlotine but it
does most of the same things.  i had problems when there were guides
left after a crop.  well, guides left on the new edges.  at 0px -- you
can see them if they are there.  i am just guessing why the plugin did
not work for you.
 

I know what I did wrong. I tried to slice a JPEG as a test and left 
the default image type as GIF in the Py-slice filter.  I was able to 
get Py-slice to work as I needed it to.  :)

gimp-perl is working and hopefully they will tell how to install it.
right now it is available via cvs checkout and needs a list of extra
perl things -- a list i lost track of.
enjoy the new gimp.

 

So far, I really like it.  :D

i miss photo mosaic myself.
 

Xsane support and the Add Glow fliter is what I'm currently missing 
but can wait for since 1.2.5 still works for me.  :)

I *really* like the new text tool as it's able to handle the 1000+ 
Windows TrueType fonts I've got installed.  :)

Thanks for the help!

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-2.0pre4 and python-fu Drop Shadow and Bevel plugin

2004-03-07 Thread Tom Williams
Simon Budig wrote:

Tom Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

So, I'm running gimp-2.0pre4 on Linux and I've got python 2.2.3 and 
pygtk-2.2.0-RC1 installed.  When I try to use the Python-FU Drop Shadow 
and Bevel plugin, I get the dialog allowing me to configure the effect 
but it doesn't run, due to this error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpfu.py, line 470, in _run
  res = apply(func, params)
File /usr/lib/gimp/1.3/plug-ins/shadow_bevel.py, line 7, in shadow_bevel
  img.undo_group_start(img)
TypeError: undo_group_start() takes no arguments (1 given)
Is there something else I need to update to enable this to work?
   

It seems the script is broken here. Change that call to
 img.undo_group_start ()
and it should work.
Hope this helps,
   Simon
 

Yup, that did the trick.  Thanks.  Since this script came with 
gimp-2.0pre4, will this be fixed in the gimp distribution before 2.0 is 
released?

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