[LUTE] Re: theorbo tuning experiment
On 2016-01-15 10:26 AM, Bruno Cognyl-Fournier wrote: Has anyone ever experimented tuning a theorbo like a guitar with an E top string, no re-entrant tuning? to facilitate the player with reading a continuo part from music notation? this would essentially give the same tessitura as a regular theorbo and allow to play the melody on the top string instead of mucking around on the 3 rd string... what would be the top string gauge suggestion for a 74 cm string Mid-East sells "baroque lutes" tuned this way: http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Roosebeck-Lutes/Roosebeck-5-9-Baroque-Lute The scale length is 660mm, also similar to a guitar. Clearly these are aimed at classical guitarists who want something that behaves somewhat like a guitar, rather than a lute. For any lutenist who is not also a guitarist, this would be a nightmare to play. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble
On 2015-12-27 7:43 AM, Daniel Shoskes wrote: I’ve been having fun with the Lauffensteiner g minor “concerto� (andante:https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 <http://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8>). In the Brussels Ms it has parts for 2 violins and 1 cello (OK, 2 treble clef instruments and a bass clef instrument with figures). In performance of pieces like this, how do people handle balance of instruments? Clearly having the other instruments in gut would help but it’s still a struggle to have the lute loud enough in comparison with the strings. Mics? Mutes? Just play as loud as you can all the way through? I played lute a lot in ensembles like this. You're louder than you think. I was convinced no one could hear me, but I've listened to recordings and the lute is quite audible. Remember this is not a solo part, but a continuo part blending with the bass instrument. It helps to keep the lute part simple, either just doubling the bass line or chords, so maximum energy goes into the lute notes. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: When Daffodils Begin to Peer
On 2015-12-10 4:34 PM, co...@medievalist.org wrote: Does anyone have or otherwise know where I can find the music for the subject song? Thank you. Ross Duffin's book, Shakespeare's Songbook, has melodies for all the songs quoted in Shakespeare. http://www.amazon.com/Shakespeares-Songbook-Ross-W-Duffin/dp/0393058891 Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Capirola lute book
On 2015-12-06 9:03 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: First back to a Bollywood song for my pupils (...!) Guitar, I hope, not lute! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Help with finding music
On 2015-11-27 1:42 PM, Nancy Carlin wrote: Ronn McFarlane has Canaries from Straloch in his Mel Bay edition The Scottish Lute page 12 and 13. In addition to this edition he has another called The Highland King - both available on the Mel Bay web site. The tab for the first volume at least is actually available free on the Mel Bay site as a PDF. This is a wonderful resource, lovely music, easy to play. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Another lute picture?
On 2015-11-25 10:16 AM, AJN wrote: I must agree it doesn't look like an original painting by a Dutch master. This discussion has been fun, but I hope whoever paid $194,500 for this painting never sees this! My favourite of the theories is that it is some kind of joke. Even if this wasn't painted by a Dutch master, someone must have paid a heck of a lot to get painted. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Repertoire questions
On 2015-11-02 1:28 PM, Peter Kwasniewski wrote: Many thanks for your note. I can see that the real solution for my children is simply to forge ahead with the figured bass, otherwise it won't be possible! It's not too hard to work out a figured bass on lute because there are fairly limited chord possibilities. There's no shame in working it out on paper rather than insisting on sight reading. Meanwhile, Arto Wikla sent me a PDF of the Robert Dowland score, for which I am very grateful. I would have done the same, except that my copy of Musical Banquet has gone missing. You will find this group is extremely generous in sharing their music and wisdom. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Affordable Baroque Guitar Options?
On 2015-11-01 10:57 AM, RCP wrote: I've located many very affordable guitars (Roosebeck and Thomann) I have one of the Mid-East Roosebeck baroque guitars, as I reported here a while back: http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Roosebeck-Guitars/Roosebeck-Sellas-Baroque-Guitar-5-course-Zachary-Taylor I think all these guitars are from the same source in Pakistan. It is quite nicely made, with the idiosyncrasies Joachim mentions. The strings supplied are way too heavy and generally horrible. I replaced them with a set of LaBella baroque guitar strings (BGMT#1) and shimmed up the nut a bit, and it works quite well, though, as Joachim says, it's quite quiet. It is serving me well as an instrument to learn on, and I recommend it. I see Mid-East has a clearance on blemished red electric ouds, just what we all need! http://www.mid-east.com/Mid-East-Electric-Frame-Oud-Wavy-w-Gig-Bag-Red-Blemished Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: playing above the frets
On 2015-09-14 11:33 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: I don't think those are frets, as their lengths make no sense. I can only think they must be marks to show the positions of notes. I'd agree with you there. The artist went to great pains to show that the rose is three-dimensional, so I doubt he wouldn't do the same if these were real frets. I'd vote for a 15th century Magic Marker. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Taylor Swift
On 2015-09-02 8:13 PM, John Mardinly wrote: With only a single bass string, would it be more correct to call it a Theorbo-Kulele? Traditionally the ukulele has re-entrant tuning (g'c'e'a'), so that the 3rd course is actually the lowest, rather like a cittern. Many modern players tune the 4th course down an octave, to give a richer tone. So maybe a cit-kulele? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Taylor Swift
On 2015-09-02 7:03 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Now if you lute players would just tune your lutes like ukes you’d have all the modern music you need and then some. Or buy a lute-kulele: http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Roosebeck-Ukulele/Roosebeck-Tenor-Lute-kulele-Variegated Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Widening holes at bridge
On 2015-08-19 9:20 AM, Robert Clair wrote: real name — “pin vise How do I pronounce — “pin vise when asking in the store? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Viktor Borge
On 2015-08-03 6:04 AM, Wim Loos wrote: Many years agoo a friend of my had a cassette tape with a comic version from Viktor Borge about Mozarts opera Der Schouwpeiedirektor, very funny. I have two LPs by Victor Borge and a few old 78s, but none contain this item. I also saw him perform his one-man show live several times, but don't recall this item. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Susato
On 2015-07-16 6:24 PM, AJN wrote: The best Susato choice would be the Giesbert volumes. I disagree. The London Pro Musica edition is better in many ways, including parts both at written pitch and transposed up a fifth. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Susato
On 2015-07-16 2:04 PM, G. C. wrote: Quite boring music actually if I may say so. Susato's Danserye is absolutely the best of the 16th century dance prints, extremely ingenious in its shifting harmonies. If you want boring, try Pierre Phalese! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Susato
On 2015-07-15 5:02 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: Alamire in Belgium publishes all/many (?) Susato in facsimile. Lovely series, inexpensive. It is listed on their web page: http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/alamire.html But without a price, which indicates that it is out of print: Susato. Het derde musyck boexken (FS I/B.18) Het derde musyck boexken (Alderhande danserye). Introduction: Herman Baeten. [Bibl. Jagiellońska, Krakow]. Facsimile Series: I/B.18. Peer, 1987. Oblong, 20 x 15 cm, 4 partbooks, 9, 128 pp. Line-cut of the Antwerp, 1551 edition. Includes dances, rondes, almaines, pavans and galliards by Susato himself. Many pieces have subtitles: “Les grands douleurs”, “Mille ducas en vostre bource”, etc. The oldest known printed source of dance music in the Netherlands. Wrappers, with slipcase. [item no. 1585] There are two modern editions, one from London Pro Musica and the other from Schott. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica
On 2015-07-04 5:56 PM, David Smith wrote: Wow. It is missing a whole section. I guess they are selling rejects. I bought it through Amazon and supplied by Imagine-this. I guess I go back to them and ask for a complete copy. Books are often misprinted. In this case its sounds like a whole signature (usually 32 pages) failed to be included in the binding process. The first thing I do whenever I buy an expensive book is check for missing pages. Usually the seller will happily replace it, since he can send it back to the publisher for a refund. If the book is out-of-print, it's a bigger problem. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: What is a classic lute quartet?
On 2015-06-07 12:51 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: I have lutes in a', g' and d'. Can almost start my own 'classic quartet'. Who makes a decent, reasonably priced octave lute in d these days? Pat O'Brien used to recommend Larry D. Brown's little lutes, but he stopped making lutes for a while, though I see he's now back at it: http://www.cincinnatiearlymusic.com/about_us.html Grant Tomlinson has a beautiful little Venere on his web site, but his prices are high and his waiting list is long.: http://www.tomlinsonlutes.com/six2.html Anybody in the UK or Europe? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: What is a classic lute quartet?
On 2015-06-07 4:14 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: Adriaensen (1584) has two pieces for the same combination. Actually Adriansen's two quartets are for a _different_ combination: lutes in a', g, e', and d', not d, a', g', and d'. The earliest modern performances of these by Anthony Rooley were on g', f', d', and c' lutes, a second lower. As someone else said, it's the intervals that are made clear by the tablature, not the actual pitches. I've played in quartets at both sets of intervals, and both are effective. The a'g'e'd' combination is often harder to play, because of the extreme chords on one or two of the lutes, but gives a richer sound because of all those sympathetic strings at so many pitches. I'm convinced that there was no standard set of lutes in the 16th century, but that composers wrote for a particular set of lutes to which they had access. Sets of three seem to have been much more common than sets of four, but these too varied in their intervals. To play all the quartets and trios (plus the many duets at unequal intervals) you actually need a set of FIVE lutes, pitched at d, a', g', e' and d'. When Richard Kolb was teaching lute at the Royal Conservatory in Toronto, he had Mike Schreiner build lutes in a', e', and d', and persuaded three of us students to buy them in addition to our g' lutes. I ended up with the e' lute, based on a Hans Frei body, and it is a magnificent instrument. I used it most when I accompanied a countertenor in lute songs. Nowadays I mostly keep it tuned in d', as that is more useful in ensembles. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Irish Lute Music
On 2015-06-05 9:43 AM, co...@medievalist.org wrote: I know there is a body of Scottish lute music out there, but I am wondering if there is any that came out of Ireland and where I might find copies of same. Thank you all in advance. Ireland lacked the royal court which encouraged lutes; their major instrument was the harp, and its greatest exponent was Turlough O'Carolan. Allan Alexander has done many fine lute arrangements of Carolan's music: http://www.guitarandlute.com/ I've bought a number of his books, and find his arrangements fit the lute well and are a pleasure to play. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Mass intabulation
On 2015-06-04 6:48 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Yes - this is what happens in the vihuela books. The Benedictus seems to be a favourite because it is often reduced to fewer parts in the original mass settings. The Crucifixus from the Credo is another bit which seems popular. I am not familiar with the Paston ms. but the family were Catholic were they not? Which bits of which masses did he arrange? It may not be as crazy as it seems as liturgically these movement do split into sections which are often treated differently. When I was first learning to play the lute, I used Stan Buetens' method, and one of the first pieces I learned was a Josquin two-voice Benedictus in there. It was easy to play, but also strangely moving and very beautiful, and sounded well on lute. I haven't played it in years, but must revisit it. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 'A la guerra' by Bartolomeo Tromboncino
On 2015-05-23 6:08 PM, Matteo Ravasio wrote: Hello, A There is a lute setting of the frottola 'A la guerra' IA can't find anywhere. Does anyone have a digital version or can indicate me where to find the intabulation? The French lute society has a book with Tromboncino's frottole but it seems, from the table of contents, that 'A la guerra' is not included. A Thank you for your help! A Matteo This was published in the LSA Quarterly in 2001, issue # 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/publications/Q/2001/index.html Perhaps someone here has a copy and can scan it for you. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Duets, Keyboard Staff notation?
On 2015-05-13 7:16 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: I have already done a lot of searching, and come up with nothing- so have been slowly transcribing parts myself (old school, pen manuscript paper. Good discipline but a tad slow). So far, we have Dowland's Lord Willoughby's Welcome Home and the Contrapunto Primo by Vincenzo Galilei. So far, we have been reading through the English Lute Song books, some Baroque concerti, and improvising on a few grounds. Just in the past week I've started working with MuseScore, an open source (free) music program. One of its neatest features is that allows you to enter music in either tab or notes, and then freely convert back and forth, as well as transpose. I've been doing intabulations by hand for decades, but now can enter the music in a few minutes, and, once entered, change it back and forth between notation, Italian tab, French tab, transpose it up or down, generate parts for any other instrument, all in seconds. I'm impressed! I would particularly like us to be able to play the Valderrabano Vihuela duos and the Matelart/Francesco duos. My luting partner is playing an A lute, so I may look at entering some of the Matelart/Francesco duets for lutes a second apart. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sweet was the song
On 2015-05-07 10:26 PM, Geoff Gaherty wrote: Excuse my poor handwritten tablature; I'm just starting to learn MuseScore. I can play this version, so it's pretty easy. I've now entered the tablature in MuseScore: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53488562/Anon_Sweet_was_the_song_the_virgin_sang.pdf Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Spain 2, Italy 1 in extratime
On 2015-05-08 11:48 AM, Robert Clair wrote: You could, if you like, argue that Shakespeare was a better writer than Ms. Mantel and Mike Poulton (who did the RSC adaptation) but is there any fundamental difference in what they are doing? Hi Bob, I think you're correct that Shakespeare adapted history to appeal to his audience, late 16th century London. He also had to be pretty careful in the later histories, as quite a few people would still be alive, or at least close descendants. After all, Henry VIII's daughter was on the throne, so he probably had to be very cautious in that one! Much safer to set your plays long ago in a distant galaxy, or, in Shakespeare's case, upstate New York (Ithaca, Syracuse, etc.) Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sweet was the song
On 2015-05-07 3:42 PM, Susanne Herre wrote: Thank you a lot! What a complicated lute part ;-) ! Did he use a plectrum? Here is a tablature I wrote of the accompanying parts of Sweet Was The Song: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53488562/Sweet%20was%20the%20song%20%28lute%29.pdf Excuse my poor handwritten tablature; I'm just starting to learn MuseScore. I can play this version, so it's pretty easy. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lutes and Pitchforks
On 2015-04-27 12:43 PM, stuart wrote: Does anyone actually carry a pitchfork in his or her lute case? I can see where this comes from, by a mixup of pitch pipe and tuning fork. We could also derive tuning pipe from the same sources. Similarly rubbershoes combines parts of rubber boots and overshoes. When she was very young, my sister referred to our mother using a masewingchine. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a new way of cutting breathtaking roses?
On 2015-04-24 3:07 AM, Franz Mechsner wrote: I found the following on an architecture discussion list, maybe it is of interest for the art of cutting roses, or for the art of thinking about roses? The inexpensive lutes and baroque guitars made in Pakistan and sold by Mid-East in the US and The Early Music Shop in the UK, all have roses cut by lasers. http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Roosebeck-Lutes/Roosebeck-Deluxe-8-Course-Lute-Sheesham Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Silly question...
On 2015-04-10 8:55 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: However, Weiss was certainly employed by the Sobieski house in Rome and it was Jan Sobieski who had previously lead the army that broke the Ottoman siege. As a lutenist and astronomer I'm always interested in links between my two loves. The constellation Scutum, just north of Scorpius, was originally called Scutum Sobieski, which means Sobieski's Shield, by Johannes Hevelius in 1684 in reference to Jan III Sobieski's victory at the Battle of Vienna the previous year. Jan III died in 1696. Interesting that Hevelius realized only a year after it happened how significant this battle was. Hevelius himself, in his day job was mayor of Gdansk, so there was undoubtedly a political motive in naming a constellation after Sobieski! Weiss was born in 1687, the year Hevelius died, and died in 1750. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Fantasia
On 2015-03-30 5:29 AM, gary wrote: Peter says,Well, okay you can come in, but go around back, passed the garbage cans, through the kitchen, and don't touch the Hors D'ouvres (sic) on the way in.' Been there, done that! Which is why, when I got married, I paid the Toronto Consort to play my our wedding music AND invited them all to our reception afterward. Of course, it helped that they were all old friends of mine. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Polyphonic Intabulations
On 2015-03-19 6:20 AM, Hector Sequera wrote: They all lack the top part but are a good example of the Spanish tradition transplanted to England for domestic use. I have done a lot of intabulations of polyphonic music myself, and most of the time do not intabulate the top part because it goes too far up the neck for my humble playing skills. Usually I have a voice or a soprano or alto recorder cover that line, and that works very well. Dowland recommends that anyone attempting intabulations consult Adriansen, who has excellent instructions and many examples. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Monteverdi 1610 Vespers Et Misericordia
On 2014-12-30 9:27 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: The Kurtzman edition of the Vespers includes a keyboard realization in this style that may (or may not) serve as a I've found most keyboard realizations useless for lute. The way keyboards play chords is completely different from the way lutes do, and are totally non-idiomatic. I usually intabulate the bass and one or two other lines, whatever lies well on the top three courses, for the sake of audibility. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.
On 2014-11-19, 1:52 PM, Sean Smith wrote: *comparison for our purposes; metaphor if John Milton had had an MG. That reminds me of the bad joke I heard at an LSA seminar many years ago: Why did Francesco drive a Mercedes when Dowland only drove a Volkswagen? Because Francesco liked ricercars. And, while we're on the subject: What did Dowland eat for breakfast? Fruit Lutes. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Heyr, himna smiður
On 2014-11-10, 2:58 AM, Julian Templeman wrote: Does anyone know of a transcription, for Renaissance lute (or even classical guitar) of the wonderful Icelandic hymn Heyr, himna smiADEGur? I heard a recording of this by the group AIrstiIADEGir about 10 days agi and it has been going round in my head ever since... This is a contemporary composition. Its composer, Þorkell Sigurbjörnsson, died only last year, so it is still under copyright. Information on purchasing performing copies can be found here: http://mic.is/2014/01/30/arstidir-heyr-himna-smidur-how-to-buy-the-sheet-music/ Their minimum charge seems to be for 4 PDF copies for a total of USD $7.10. I'd happily write an intabulation, but I don't know if they would sell me a single copy from which to write an intabulation, nor how royalties might be handled for distributing the intabulation. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo
On 2014-11-03, 8:18 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Ren lute is absolutely fine. When I played in the Collegium at Eastman, Paul (O'Dette) occasionally sat in with us continuo players. He always used his 8 course I played continuo on my 7-course renaissance lute for many years in a baroque ensemble class at the Royal Conservatory of Music in Toronto. Although I own an archlute, the 7c was much more portable, easier to play, and sounded just fine. Some chords were awkward because of the tuning, but otherwise it worked well, and was quite audible in our ensemble of 5 or so. Heck, I even played continuo in a Bach harpsichord concerto! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo
On 2014-11-03, 10:47 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: If you believe the lute 'works well' and is 'quite audible' for continuo in ensemble, such as that required for a Bach harpsichord concerto, why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? Oh, certainly, an archlute or theorbo is better, but not all of us can afford all the instruments that the music calls for, so we do our best with what we have. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes
On 2014-10-15, 6:36 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: I visited Manouk Papazian in his New York shop all those years ago (1965 or 66), the instruments weren't that bad except that I couldn't begin to fret them- ended up with a much more playable 9 course from David Rubio- but still it was a bone saddle, metal fret, higher-than-historic string tension compromise. That sounds a bit like my first lute, which was one of the first Mike Schreiner built when he was still working in Larrivee's workshop...in fact it had Larrivee's label inside it. It started out as a 10-course, but Mike rebuilt as an 8-course, shaving away a lot of the wood inside in the process. Then my teacher told me he had a guitar student interested in buying a lute, and that this would probably be my last chance to sell it for a decent price. I replaced it with one of Mike's 7-course Veneres, which is still serving me well today. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger video
On 2014-09-28, 5:08 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: Before today's concert I experimented with a new recording setup. Find two Toccata's by Kapberger here (clouds and a few birds included): [1]http://youtu.be/CGBtVhOp41U I wonder what Kapsberger would have made of the jet contrails? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute sighting
On 2014-09-19, 6:55 PM, Edward Martin wrote: I don't know about that, but there were lutes in the Russel Crowe Robin Hood movie. A Built, of course, by Dan Lasron. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szQQ3ARZnCQ Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Scottish pieces
On 2014-09-17, 5:50 PM, Hanna Kłosińska wrote: I'm a renaissance lute player from Warsaw, Poland, a student of Mr Anton Birula. Quite soon, in about a month, I'll be playing a concert on a conference devoted to Scottish position in Europe, organised by Warsaw University ([1]http://www.scotlandineurope.angli.uw.edu.pl/). In order of that, I would like to play also some Scottish renaissance works. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any tablatures neither in music bookshops in Poland nor on the internet (the only music sheet I have found were some simple pieces by John Skene, composed on 5-string mandora). If you could be so kind and, by chance, be able to help me in any way, please let me know. There is a large amount of Scottish lute music, edited in two volumes by Ronn McFarlane, published by Mel Bay. Mostly these come from Scottish manuscripts in the first few decades of the 17th century, though there are two pieces from the Jane Pickering manuscript. Here is a public domain source (but without tablatures) for the Skene ms., which contains some pieces in lute tuning as well as mandora: https://archive.org/details/ancientscotishme00daun Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: ML lutebook (aka sturt lutebook, Add. 38539)
On 2014-09-12, 4:46 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: Does anyone know the significance of the first page of the ML book? It's all 0's on a tab staff and appears to be variations of arpeggiation. The page appears here: http://www.gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_stur t_lute_book/01v.png [cut and paste may be needed to correctly transfer the address to your browser] A right hand exercise? That's not a tab staff. It is a 6 line mensural staff with a bass clef on the third line, and the Os are whole notes. The top line is middle C and the bottom, line is G. It is variations on the C major scale. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531
On 2014-09-01, 11:15 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: I played this piece with a professional modern orchestra a couple of years ago. I don't remember anything about the presence or absence of figures. Most Italians from Vivaldi's period didn't notate many figures since it was expected that performers were so familiar with stereotypical progressions from partimenti that figures were redundant. I think I still have a PDF of the music. I'll be happy to send you a copy when I get home. (I'll write in figures if you'd like). Hi Chris, I tried sending privately this to your return address, but it bounced. I'd like to thank you for your extremely useful article in the latest LSA Newsletter. I quite often need to play continuo from this period, and it's extremely helpful to learn that I should be playing full chords without worrying much about voice leading. Cheers! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Seven courses vs eight
I have a strong preference for 7 courses, but always keep the seventh course turned to F. I tried it for a while tuned to D, but found it difficult to be always fretting the Fs, which seemed to be by far the most common basses in the music I play. Any other bass notes I play up the octave. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!
On 2014-08-07, 6:31 AM, wayne lute wrote: It is over a foot tall, so not as portable as the little one, but has big rechargeable batteries that last a long time, and if what goes in sounds like a lute, what comes out sounds like a lute. This is of interest to me, since I sometimes need amplification for outdoor gigs. From your reference to Sennheiser, I take it you use a microphone for the lute, rather than having some sort of pickup installed. Could you say more about how this works? A picture might help. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.
On 2014-07-28, 2:52 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Apply sparingly with a rubber, wipe off any excess and leave for several weeks to more fully oxidise and harden. Remind us what rubber means in the UK. In North America it means condom! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Appropriateness of play list
On 2014-06-21, 9:29 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Keep in mind that the food is probably about as authentically Italian as a taco. (I'm guessing. If they do serve actual regional Italian cuisine, the food is going to be the star, not the music.) Your audience will most likely get more of a kick out of hearing Norwegian Wood on the lute than Francesco. By all means, play whatever you are comfortable with, but do include at least a few Italian pieces. You never can tell who might be listening. I remember a gig for a banquet before the opening of a play at Stratford, Ontario, where we were playing Morley consort lessons as loud as we could into two pitiful microphones, pretty much completely inaudible. I later found out that Liona Boyd and Maureen Forrester were both in attendance. Ms. Boyd didn't come anywhere near us, but Ms. Forrester came and sat as close to us as she could get. When we finished, she said, I couldn't hear a damn thing, and I'm writing a letter to the sponsor complaining about how badly the musicians were treated! A great lady, that! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Birds
On 2014-06-16, 11:58 PM, Eloy Cruz wrote: We've been invited to play at an early music festival. The theme this year will be birds. Do you know any piece about birds for baroque guitar or theorbo? There are several 17th century pieces entitled Canaries, though I think these refer to the islands rather than the birds. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Carmen's Whistle
On 2014-06-14, 9:13 AM, Bernd Haegemann wrote: I'm very disappointed by both of the versions: to me they don't sound like flamenco at all! Note that the correct title for this piece is Carman's Whistle, not Carmen's Whistle, and that it was written by John Johnson, not Georges Bizet. I vaguely recall an old Nigel North CD with his recording of a 19th century arrangement of music from Carmen. Bizet, not Johnson. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: The Trujillo vihuelas
On 2014-04-25, 5:20 PM, David Morales wrote: You can translate the full site to your prefered language by using the flags located in the top-left corner, maybe that could help. I see from this that Google translates vihuela as harp! There are also very strange translations like: Only now, after having met Francisco Caballero (their leader and promoter), is when We understand that madness can crystallize, which of necessity can be made under and when a teacher with vocation to do something, circumstances eventually accompany ... The vihuela had a very refined setting, after some slight changes in the height of the eyebrow and the distribution of the orders, and monoxila construction gives a very sweet sound and collected. Despite the strange translation, it's clear that this is a wonderful project, an inspiration for a bunch of students. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: La Bella strings
On 2014-04-24, 6:13 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: I ordered some La Bella strings a few years back and their calculations were way off. I was able to do my own for the nylon strings by measuring the diameter but it was really hit and miss for the copper-wound strings as I didn't have any basis for calculation. The strings they suggested on their website were totally inappropriate (far too slack). I did contact them about this issue but they never sorted anything out. Shame, because their strings are well made and reasonably priced. I recently installed a set of their baroque guitar strings (BGMT#1) on my Roosebeck Sellas baroque guitar and they seem OK. They buzzed a bit at first because the nut was low and the nylon frets bowed upwards, as compared the way-too-heavy strings supplied by the manufacturer, but have improved a lot since I shimmed the nut up. I think once I replace the nylon frets with gut, they should be just fine. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 5c
On 2014-04-20, 2:05 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Thanks for the replies. I hadn't given much thought to using a quill, seeing it as more of a 4c lute technique, but I realise I am wrong in that. Both techniques were used on the 5c. I like improvising, so having the ability to do so over a tenor is something I'd like to work up.A I suppose one could play Fuenllana's 5c vihuela repertoire, though that might raise a few eyebrows, perhaps even a few heckles - something else for me to enjoy :-) But Fuenllana's approach of taking two parts from a Josquin mass setting could be hugely fruitful. Overall, though, I imagine more successes could be found in playing in small ensembles with other instruments, much as I have done before. I'm also more, though not exclusively, interested in what we might term the Northern Renaissance - plenty to look into there.A Thanks again. I'm looking forward to getting stuck in. I have a beautiful little 5c built by Ray Nurse after Arnault de Zwolle's design. I mostly use it for Dufay contratenors and monophonic dances. It had never occurred to me to try playing the tenors as well; I'll have to try that. By all means try it with a quill (or a flat pick, when nobody's looking!) I call it my electric lute because it really penetrates in a small ensemble and balances well with other instruments. Another thing to use as a pick is a wooden orange stick as used for manicures. These usually have one end cut off at an oblique angle, giving an oval end face. Use it so the oval goes across the string, the curved edge pushing the string towards the soundboard. This produces a much smoother sound. These are instruments are great fun to play! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Cantio Sarmatoruthenica 140
On 2014-03-29, 4:32 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: [1]http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/444.mp3 [2]http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/images/444.pdf an Ukro-Canadian immigrant tune which completes the Sarmatoruthenian cycle... Enjoy! Thank you, Roman! A great piece for all my Ukrainian friends here in Canada! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes
On 2014-03-17, 7:47 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Standing. Yep, I love it. Aside from the projection that you mentioned, it has helped my breathing and posture (legs, back, neck, head), which, in turn, helped my hand position, relaxation, confidence and, best of all for all involved, counting. At the concert by the Venice Baroque Orchestra I attended in Santa Barbara a few weeks ago, they all played standing up for the whole concert, except for the harpsichordist, lutenist, cellos, and violone. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: St Patrick's Day (wire-strung guittar) Pocket Companion 1760
On 2014-03-16, 7:54 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Better than a keg of green California IPA. I never could understand green beer. Nor black lutes: http://schreinerlutesandguitars.blogspot.ca/2012/09/jauch-baroque-lute-black-lute.html Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: backpacks for lutes?
On 06/03/14 2:29 AM, T.Kakinami wrote: http://www.bagluthiers.com/producto.php?i43p=laud_renacentista_-_barroco6cc3f8id=43 That's close to my ideal. My present cases are mostly made of wood and significantly heavy and hard, not something I would want to strap on my back. A light-weight soft padded case on my back would be a big improvement. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: backpacks for lutes?
On 06/03/14 11:55 AM, Dan Winheld wrote: That Roosebeck thing seems more like a beach or camping out in the woods lute than just a travel, per se. A back-up for the risky gigs, or even a financially challenged beginner's better-than-nothing instrument. I would seriously like to check one out; I have known quite a few would be lute students over the year give up because of the unavailability as well as the priceyness of our typical built to order lutes. Any reports on this, from anyone? I and one of my friends have purchased several instruments from Mid-East. I've played lute for decades, and own two renaissance lutes by Mike Schreiner (Venere in g' and Frei in e') and a medieval lute by Ray Nurse, so I know how a lute should behave. Ever since Doug Freundlich introduced me to the joys of lute ensembles, I've wanted a baby lute. Being retired and short of cash, I tried a Google search on descant lute and found such a thing advertised by Mid-East. It turned out this was really a treble or alto lute in a', but I was interested nonetheless, and decided to gamble on it. When the lute arrived, I was quite surprised that it was very nicely (if plainly) constructed, and sounded quite nice, if a bit quiet (due to its heavy construction). The only serious drawback was nylon frets, but that's easily fixed. I was sufficiently impressed that I ordered a Sellas baroque guitar from the same source. My friend ordered a 7-course lute in g'. Again, these are a bit heavily built, but for considerably less than $800, they are pretty darned good. I gather the Lute Society in England is using the treble lute to teach kids to play lute. It is the most successful of the three instruments. Apparently, their travel lutes differ from their regular lutes in two ways: the bowl is shallower and the peg-box is inclined at 135° to the fingerboard, rather than being almost a right angle. The result is an instrument that is thinner, though not as thin as the ones Colin made. I haven't seen one of these in the flesh, so have no idea how they sound. So these instruments pose no threat to builders of custom lutes, but give an impoverished beginner a fairly inexpensive entry into the wonderful world of lutes. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: backpacks for lutes?
On 05/03/14 2:56 PM, wayne cripps wrote: I see guys carrying 'cellos and guitars in backpacks - does anyone make a backpack for a baroque lute (in its case)? Decades ago at the York Early Music Week a young lady lutenist turned up with a lute backpack, which impressed us all. Though Jacob Lindberg was more interested in suitcases on wheels, which were just becoming popular around then. He had this image of himself walking down the street towing three different lutes in lute cases on wheels, hooked together like cars on a train. My viol-playing friends all swear by Colorado Cases: http://coloradocase.com/ These are light weight and can be carried like a back-pack. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: De Visee
On 03/03/14 9:28 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Yes - I often forget to copy the list in when replying to messages! Easily done. I do that all the time here too. Most email lists are configured so that the default is for the reply to go to the list, so I automatically hit the reply button instead of reply all. Wayne, could you reconfigure the default on the server so that it conforms to most other lists? Corbetta sounds like an interesting figure...I look forward to your biography of him. Those grand court spectacles must have been a lot of fun for the musicians as well as the audience, somewhat like the lute orchestras we participate in at Lute Society get-togethers. When else do duffers like me (and Louis XIV) get to play along with the hotshots of the day? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: De Visee
On 02/03/14 7:56 PM, Peter Danner wrote: Incidentally, it was while performing the Te Deum written to celebrate Louis' recovery from this illness that Lully suffered the wound that caused his death. Oh no...I fear we're next going to learn that the tale of Lully's death from gangrene brought about by an accident with his conducting staff is a fable also! It must be true: Wikipedia says so. Not to mention the liner notes on every record of Lully's music. Incidentally, I learned from Wikipedia that the guitar was Lully's first instrument. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise
On 26/02/14 2:44 PM, Monica Hall wrote: It seems a strange thing to do to stick bits of black taffeta or velvet or whatever on ones face - but I think they all had very bad skin (not to mention rotten teeth) due to their unhealthy life style. No stranger than the things that young people today stick through their ears, noses, belly buttons and other body parts! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise
On 27/02/14 3:43 AM, William Samson wrote: Not that I know anything about it, but the name 'chittarone' seems to give the game away. The very idea has me salivating! Mighty rasgueados on the theorbo, anyone? I attended a concert by the Venice Baroque Orchestra in Santa Barbara recently and was surprised by the amount of rasgueado strumming by their theorbo player. He even had a pick guard installed on his instrument! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise
On 27/02/14 9:07 AM, Eric Hansen wrote: I saw that orchestra in Connecticut last Sunday. The lutenist strummed quite bit, on a swan - neck Baroque lute. It looked to have a pick guard installed. He was a fine player. I was interested to see how both lute and harpsichord played most of the time, rather than one or the other. I'm sure I've read somewhere that they were rarely used together. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1
On 24/01/14 9:19 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote: Yes; interesting! We are only talking about Corelli's Op. 1 (Opp. 2-4 all call for archlute according to surviving editions--no mention of theorbo there). I suppose this could either reflect common practice in a city (Rome vs. Bologna/Venice) or publisher preference. Or just happenstance--what editions the publishers happened to copy. I downloaded the Corelli Op.1 parts. What I find odd is the third part, labelled violone o arcilevto. I can see how an archlute or theorbo player would have managed it, but what about the poor violone player? What was he supposed to do with the figures? Since the part is carefully figured, this suggests to me that it was really intended for archlute or theorbo; otherwise why bother going to all that work that the violone player would ignore? My other question is whether Corelli and his contemporaries made much distinction between archlute and theorbo. When I first got involved with lutes 30 years ago, there was massive confusion between the two, and I recall a presentation at an LSA seminar by Ray Nurse in which he cleared most of the confusion up. I suspect everyone today uses his definitions, but were things that clear back in the 17th century? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: 5 + 9 theorbo?
On 12/01/14 12:42 AM, heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote: Instrument(s) for sale:http://bit.ly/1ddztq7 If I count correctly, this instrument has1 single chanterelle + 4 double courses on the fingerboard9 single courses on the extension. Is there any historical, modern or practical justification for this configuration?In other words, does there exist any music that would be playable on it? Those are instruments designed by Zachariah Taylor in the UK, built in Pakistan, and imported into the UK by the Early Music Shop and the USA by Mid-East. They tend to be quite heavily built and rather odd designs, but have the advantage of selling for a fraction of the cost of custom-made instruments. I own one of their treble lutes (in a', mistakenly called a descant lute) which is quite nice, much nicer than their standard g' lutes, and their Sellas baroque guitar, which needs some work to make it playable. They also make a baroque lute in 6 + 8 configuration with a shorter scale: http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Lute/Roosebeck-Baroque-Lute-6-8-Rosewood Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ballet lute book
On 01/01/14 3:23 PM, G.R. Crona wrote: Huge Thanks to Trinity College Music Dept. for such a wonderful New Year's Gift. And to Andreas for breaking the news :) Happy New Lute Year To All! This is an amazing treasure! The only facsimiles of Ballet I've ever seen were fuzzy and nearly impossible to read, but this is one of the cleanest facsimiles I've ever seen. Thank you Trinity College Dublin! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: what name is given to this instrument?
On 29/12/13 7:03 PM, Christopher Stetson wrote: And it looks to be an especially nice example. I've also seen similar instruments referred to as Swedish guitar, but I don't know what the differences are... The only time I ever saw one of these was in the window of a music store in Montreal around 1960. This was the same store where I bought my first guitar and tenor recorder. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed we got so far away from the [LUTE]-forum
On 19/12/13 8:27 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Richard Taruskin Josquin's Missa Di Dadi Funny you should mention these two in the same email. Decades ago I attended an early music workshop in Miami where Taruskin was one of the instructors, and his task of the week was to lead us recorder players through a sight-reading of a different Josquin mass each night. He chose masses which he had never heard performed, in the hopes of finding an undiscovered masterpiece. Needless to say, all of them were fine music, but we were all blown away by the Missa di Dadi. This was probably the first performance of this mass since the 16th century, and I'm still in awe of having been one of the first people in centuries to experience it. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 18/12/13 11:37 AM, howard posner wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Jarosław Lipskijaroslawlip...@wp.pl wrote: Bach was known for bullying kids from his choir Really? Do you have a source for this? I recall reading that he was fired from an early gig for improper relations with one of the women in the choir. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what?
On 17/12/13 8:44 AM, G. Crona wrote: And not only had he good taste in music, but he also gave a lot of information and valuable advice on the execution of the pieces, a great number of which are probably the most played on the lute today among the intermediate crowd. He in fact also recommends tuning 3rd down to F# on several of the pieces and at the end requires lute tuning on some. Still highly treasured collections which must have inspired many people to take up the lute. Decades ago when I briefly flirted with teaching myself classical guitar I discovered one of Noad's beginner's books, and found it the most logical and thorough method I'd seen. I never encountered his renaissance guitar book, but just now discovered its table of contents on his web page, and I'm blown away by the brilliance of his selection of music. It truly is the cream of the crop, and I can see why he converted so many people to the lute. http://www.noad.com/trg.htm Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)
On 16/12/13 9:38 AM, Chris Barker wrote: I think that possibly more people heard more of Segovia's recordings of Six Lute Pieces of the Renaissance than heard Respighi's Ancient Dances and Aires for Lute. That's extremely doubtful. I've attended orchestral concerts by major symphony orchestras for decades, and have heard the Respighi piece many times. Unless Segovia played it at the one concert of his I attended, I've never heard it played, but then I rarely listen to guitar music. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 15/12/13 4:47 AM, William Samson wrote: Segovia's early years seem to be unclear. Does anybody know where he learned to play? Did he study with a master? The Wikipedia article on Segovia gives some of his early history, though I don't know how reliable it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andres_Segovia#Early_life Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Inspired Teaching and Learning. Was: Bream Collection
On 15/12/13 5:41 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: To learn any instrument, you'll need to study an extended period of time with a teacher who's good at teaching you a solid technique. To become a good musician, you'll need to work with teachers who can help you to develop your own musicality into playing that will speak to an audience. It goes without saying that first and foremost you'll need to bring your own dedication and motivation, as no teacher can do that for you. Most of what I've learned about playing the lute has come from weekly lessons over a period of years with two fine teachers, Terry McKenna and Richard Kolb. I was lucky to have regular contact with two excellent musicians who were also excellent teachers, and with quite different styles. I think a regular lesson with your reacher should be quite different from an incidental lesson at a workshop or masterclass. Prepare these lessons differently. Having been a student and teacher in several different subject areas, I was quite horrified to discover the musical torture chamber known as the master class. I simply can't understand why any sane person would put themselves through this sort of public humiliation. I can't even stand to attend master classes, let alone perform in one. I attend workshops regularly, and find my greatest pleasure in ensemble playing. My greatest learning has been in individual classes with the likes of Pat O'Brien and Lyle Nordstrom, especially where they took a piece I had been working on and gave me new insight into it. I particularly treasure an hour with Pat studying Go from my Window on lute, and a similar hour with Lyle on the bandora part for the Lachrimae consort lesson. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 14/12/13 7:31 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote: Thanks for this; it is worth watching the *whole video* . . . I'm not sure Chapdelaine felt he was being needlessly bullied Yes, it's interesting to hear Chapdelaine's reaction to the bullying. Segovia was amazingly sensitive to the slightest things. At the one concert of his I ever attended, he came out on stage at the Place des Arts in Montréal, sat for a moment while the audience began to settle down, then got up and stormed off the stage. My immediate thought was that the audience had been too noisy. He came back out, sat down again, and played the concert. I would have never known what had happened, except that I happened to know the wife of the impresario who had organized the concert. She was backstage when he stormed out, and what he demanded was that the escalators in the lobby be turned off. Despite the noisy audience he could hear through them to the miniscule noise caused by the escalators. As soon as the escalators were turned off, he was satisfied, and went ahead with the concert. I had been in the audience at Place des Arts many timnes for many different concerts, and had never been aware of any noise from the escalators, even though I was far closer to the escalators than Segovia on stage, and did not have audience noise to interfere. The man, though advanced in years, had amazing ears. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 14/12/13 8:45 AM, Chris Barker wrote: And now, much older and wiser, are still of the same opinion, and we hold his critics in great disdain. My main memory of that concert by Segovia, aside from the escalotor incident, is of a grumpy looking old man sitting alone on a huge stage with 3000 people watching and listening. He hardly seemed to move, yet this most glorious music poured forth. His very stillness was an inspiration. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 14/12/13 8:42 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote: It reminded me that I often think that someone transported from another century--even the 19th like Segovia, but especially the early music period--would be horrified at how noisy our modern world is. I've lived in the country for the past 7 years, and have become used to the quiet. When I visit Toronto, from time to time, I find my senses assaulted by the noise, light, and, especially, the stink of a big city, and can hardly wait to get back home. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 09/12/13 8:34 AM, William Brohinsky wrote: I own an electric guitar, and a small subset of the amazingly wide and varied tone-modifiers and other paraphernalia of electric-guitar use. And yet, I also own two acoustic 6-strings, two acoustic 12-strings, two classical guitars (admittedly, my wife brought one to the union) and a mandolin. Why ever for? I now own 10 different plucked instruments: medieval lute, renaissance lutes at a', g', and d', archlute, cittern, bandora, renaissance guitar, baroque guitar, and lutekulele. I play them all regularly, though mostly the g' renaissance and the baroque guitar (my newest toy). In my other hobby, astronomy, I own 12 telescopes. Fortunately my wife is a fabric artist, and owns half a dozen sewing machines, so she understands. Each instrument has its own function, strengths, and weaknesses. In each area we own a few high end devices, plus a variety of inexpensive experiments. In my case, the former includes custom-made telescopes and lutes, the latter includes mass-produced Chinese telescopes, Pakistani pluckies, and various homebrews. And yes, we both know that we are sick. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 09/12/13 11:38 AM, Dan Winheld wrote: lutekulele? Geoff- YOU WIN! I'm not kidding! Here it is: http://www.mid-east.com/Strings/Ukulele/Roosebeck-Lute-kulele-Tenor-Variegated-Pegs I plan to restring it as a descant lute or mandora. It's quite a lovely little instrument, except for having too heavy strings. It sounds much better than the video would make you believe. I've just restrung the Sellas baroque guitar from the same source, and this has greatly improved its tone and playability. The design and woodworking on these Pakistani instruments is very nice, but they put the most horrible strings and nylon frets on them. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... lute ukuleles
On 09/12/13 3:42 PM, WALSH STUART wrote: Overall: good marks for looks and the workmanship seems fine and no problems with the pegs. For the sound I'm not yet so sure. £149 is not a bad price. Great minds think alike! That's exactly the sort of conversion I have in mind. Thanks for the suggestions. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 06/12/13 11:20 AM, erne...@aquila.mus.br wrote: I am too young to understand how important he was once upon a time, and his recordings do not fit into what I like to hear, say Hopkinson Smith and alumni. For a whole generation of lutenists, the first person we ever heard play the lute was Julian Bream, so he has a very special place in all our hearts. I've had several of the current generation of historically informed lutenists confess privately that they still love Bream's recordings. I feel the same way about Wanda Landowska and the harpsichord. Even if the Pleyel harpsichords she used were well on their way to evolving into the piano, her musicianship shines through. Even Glenn Gould has his place, though what he played was neither harpsichord nor piano. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
On 06/12/13 2:43 PM, Braig, Eugene wrote: I don't think I would dare to be so prescriptive of the musical activities of anybody who doesn't happen to be me. I remember fondly a lecture by the late Howard Mayer Brown in which he planted his tongue firmly in his cheek and speculated on whether the Chicago Symphony should _allowed_ to play Beethoven! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Saturday quote - Innocent mistake
On 30/11/13 10:17 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: methinks not, we have plenty of titles containing Dulandi, gather than Ioandi. It was very common for famous renaissance geniuses to be known by their given names. Galileo, Leonardo, Michelangelo, and Francesco immediately come to mind. da Vinci and da Milano are sometimes seen, but never Galilei or di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni. My question is whether Albert da Rippe was an ancestor of Jack da Rippe? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tombeau la Comète par?
On 29/11/13 6:55 AM, WALSH STUART wrote: Poor thing. It was meant to spectacularly bounce off the sun at half a million miles per hour. And on Thanksgiving Day in North America. And light up the skies for Christmas. But the bouncing bit of the equation didn't seem to work out. A doomed trajectory - ripe with symbolism... To paraphrase Mark Twain, the reports of ISON's death have been exaggerated. As of this morning it appears to have survived its close encounter with the Sun and is starting to look like a comet again: http://www.isoncampaign.org/karl/schroedingers-comet Perhaps some musical reflections on the Phoenix are in order? Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: OT: The Highest Form Of Flattery
On 26/11/13 3:05 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: I am more shocked that the Marco Beasley tune sounds in places like the immortal Les feuilles mortes (Autumn leaves), by Vladimir Kosma. Which in turn lifts a phrase from Vivaldi's Seasons. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Madrigals for female voices
On 03/11/13 6:29 AM, Helen Atkinson wrote: It would be lovely to accompany the Italian madrigals with these singers but I'm not able to do the intabulation myself, unfortunately. Perhaps one day someone will publish them this way for the relatively unskilled lutenist I'm not a terribly skilled lutenist, but the one thing I do really well is intabulations, mostly of the lower lines of chansons and madrigals. Send me the music and I'll have a go at it. My lute tablature is hand written but very legible, and my parts are written to be playable by an unskilled lutenist like myself. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Capo use on early instruments
On 25/09/13 3:34 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: Polar opposite to Jazz electric guitarists, who seemed to me to avoid open strings as much as possible. The same is true of gamba players, who avoid open strings because of their different tone. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Capo use on early instruments
On 25/09/13 7:20 PM, R. Mattes wrote: Yes, I always try to avid open bass strings ... esp. on theorbo. Sorry, couldn't resist;-) That's the difference between a bowed string and a plucked string. We do everything we can to sustain our plucked notes! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Biography of Diana Poulton
On 19/09/13 4:27 PM, David Van Edwards wrote: Diana had a much wider social circle of contacts and a much more vivid personal life than many, even her students, ever knew about. Indeed! Just try googling her husband Frank! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Biography of Diana Poulton
On 19/09/13 5:45 PM, Geoff Gaherty wrote: Indeed! Just try googling her husband Frank! Oops, that should be Tom. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: chord fingering
On 09/09/13 8:00 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote: Hans Newsidler has no barre in his tablatures. In the 1st part of his 1536 print, he offers fingerings that would imply forefinger b2, middle b3, ring c4, little d5 for this chord. He must have had small fingers to manage that. Like the others, I've always used a partial barre with my index finger on the first fret. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes - Intabulations
On 07/09/13 12:24 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: We have posted our Saturday quotes, Victor Coelho on the importance of intabulations. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-PC Interesting stuff! I do a lot of intabulations myself, and I've learned a lot about musical structure from doing them. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Un-Extended Lutes in the 1600s
On 05/09/13 6:36 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: body class='hmmessage'div dir='ltr'Edward:brbrThat would be yes.nbsp; Extended lutes were not necessarily as popular then as they are now and, according to Victor Coelho, the bulk of 17th century Italian manuscript sources features music for 7-course lute.nbsp;brbrSee the article.strong class=style33 style=margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0;“Authority, Ron, The software used for this list does not handle HTML gracefully, rendering it full of gibberish. Please try to use text-only to post here. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bream
On 04/09/13 10:14 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Apparently a nasty hoax. It looks like the whole thread has now been deleted. As Mark Twain once remarked, Rumours of my death have been exaggerated! The internet has long been plagued by false rumours like this. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tablature ?! scam
On 26/08/13 3:51 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: Look what the cat brought in today. It was addressed to Felix. (Who's Felix?) The subject matter was 'tablature'. I knew they were forging email addresses, but this is the first time I've seen a forged subject field! She must be a lutenist too! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Double wide spacing for polyphony
On 22/08/13 6:01 PM, David Tayler wrote: Specifically, I wanted something for both playing and recording that reveals the maximum separation in the individual polyphonic parts, with tone and transparency. I had the spacing at both nut and bridge widened on my g' lute some years ago, on Pat O'Brien's recommendation, and it certainly makes it much easier to play polyphony cleanly. It increases the stretch, but my hands are large, so that's not a problem. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Liuto forte and: Double wide spacing for polyphony
It's interesting that these two discussions should be going on simultaneously, since both could be regarded as fake lutes: they deviate from historical authenticity. As Pat O'Brien tells it, people's hands, like their bodies, were smaller in the 16th and 17th centuries, so were more able to play cleanly on lutes with tighter spacing. Lutenists with small hands, like Paul O'Dette, have an advantage over the rest of us. Widening the string spacing levels the playing field, though it deviates from historic accuracy. Although I have no interest in owning or playing a liuto forte, I applaud the people experimenting with new instrument designs like this. This will help to make our beloved instrument and its music more accessible in the 21st century, another topic we have been discussing. It used to be joked about early 20th century harpsichord maker Pleyel that if he experimented enough, eventually he would invent the piano! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: now- How did Iadone play?
On 13/08/13 6:47 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Not only that, but I found a photograph of Iodone with Hindemith http://music.yale.edu/news/?p=8933 Martha Bixler, also in the picture, was an long-time member of New York Pro Musica and is still active on the New York recorder scene. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - astronomy analogy?
On 12/08/13 2:46 AM, William Samson wrote: Sadly, I suspect that 'sidewalk lutenists' wouldn't attract the same queues as sidewalk astronomers. Even I, as a lutenist, have a much clearer recollection of my first view of Saturn's rings through a telescope than I have of first hearing a lute. As a matter of fact, I once saw this sidewalk lutenist in a piazza in Venice: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53488562/lutenist%20in%20Venice.jpg He was drawing quite a crowd, in fact. This was on a tour of Italy following the March 31 2006 solar eclipse in Jalu, Libya. A friend saw him a couple of months ago there, and he's now selling CDs, just as someone here suggested. I can't remember when I first _heard_ a lute, probably when I bought a Julian Bream LP of lute music, but I have a vivid memory of first _seeing_ a lute (actually a lute guitar), in a Montreal music store window at the age of 17 or 18. It was love at first sight, and I knew I had to own and play one, though it was 20 years later that I achieved that. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - astronomy analogy?
On 12/08/13 9:12 AM, A.J. Padilla MD wrote: I'll bet some large fraction (at least in the U.S.) of lute players, professional or avocational, got turned on by the 1960's Julian Bream album An Evening of Elizabethan Music. Even though he was playing a heavily-constructed, inauthentic LSO (Lute-Shaped Object) the artistry and the musical content were there. We should take some sort of poll. I got the LP in 1966, and my first student lute in 1980, so I only waited 14 years Yes, that's the album, and the piece which particularly caught my fancy was Kemp's Jig...never thought I'd be able to play it myself. Tucked inside the jacket I find an article in a magazine about an Ottawa early music group with Tom Kines playing a similar battleship lute. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
On 12/08/13 10:45 AM, William Samson wrote: Nowadays, of course, there are very many more great quality lutenists than there were forty years ago, but there's not nearly enough work to go round to keep them all busy as concert performers. Interestingly enough, exactly the same situation exists among professional astronomers. The universities crank out far more Ph.D.s in astronomy than there are jobs for. Fortunately training in astronomy includes a lot of mathematics, statistics, and computer studies, so these people have little trouble finding good paying jobs, though not doing what they want to do. As an amateur astronomer and amateur lutenist, I have it made. I simply do what I love doing. The astronomy side has actually started to earn me a little money, writing articles and content for astronomy software. Miles is right about continuo being the lutenist's bread and butter. About 15 years ago, I never got the chance to play my lute in ensemble, which was what I really wanted to do. Then I signed up for one of Scott Paterson's baroque ensembles at the Royal Conservatory of Music in Toronto, and got to play continuo every week with other serious amateur musicians, which was terrific training. My fellow students all played real instruments: flute, cello, harpsichord, even French horn! Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
On 12/08/13 3:16 PM, Sean Smith wrote: In other words it's hard to build up trust and the label created an easy proxy for it. Back in the '50s the recording industry was dominated by three companies (Victor, Columbia, and Decca in the US), and they basically dictated what people heard:99% mainsteream classical music. The advent of the tape recorder allowed small labels and individuals to produce their own records, and many turned to early music to find repertoire not available from the big three. We've all talked about how influential Julian Bream's early lute records were, especially his Victor Elizabethan lute record. In going back through my music library (thousands of vinyls, and even a few acoustical 78s!) I realized that I'd totally forgotten that Bream had an extensive recording career _before_ that epochal disk, on one of those small independent labels, Westminster. He made at least 4 LPs for Westminster, mostly on the guitar, but there was one of Dowland's lute music, played on the lute. Believe me, in those days there was a miniscule market for guitar music played by anyone other than Segovia, and ZERO market for Dowland lute solos. Westminster took a gamble on young Bream, and did quite well by him, but it wasn't until he jumped ship to Victor that his recording career really took off. Geoff -- Geoff Gaherty Foxmead Observatory Coldwater, Ontario, Canada http://www.gaherty.ca http://starrynightskyevents.blogspot.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
