Component bar
Hi, is there any way to edit the component bar, i.e. add or remove certain links it has?
Re: Status of some important features
www.mozillanews.org www.mozillazine.org :) Fulvio Perini [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have tried to find out somewhere of the status or progress of some features which are missing in Mozilla/NS6.I did searches in mozilla.org and I came up empty handed. 1.Print Preview,as good as it is NS4.xx 2.Hovering with mouse over an e-mail summary title.I have had to open some e-mail which should have been deleted 3.Where is one to find directions to some features which come up,once in a while,like the Tabs or or next may be the grayed out toolbar in today's nightly?I am sure that someone know,but are there any directions?
Re: tooltip for image-alt-value
The W3C forbids the usage of the alt attributes for tooltips. The alt attribute (alternative) is for browsers that have image display disabled, that can't load the image, or that cannot display images. Use the title attribute which is for displaying additional explaining text. Regards, Sören Kuklau ZZT [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, in netscape 4.x and IE5.x I see the alt value of an image as tooltip. Where is this feature in mozilla 0.9x ? Do I have to activate it? bye
Re: Odd Checkmarks in latest nightlies
I think that's a known bug related to the weird sizing of icons in the site navigation and the personal toolbars and other locations where this happens. Appeared recently, will probably disappear soon. It's only a nightly. :) Sören Kuklau Patrick Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In the menus (File Edit View Search et al) the marks showing selected options are huge - gigantic pixellated check marks and + signs - is this a known issue? It doesn't affect functionality, but it's ugly as all get out... Patrick
Re: site kills 0.9.6
Nope, not Windows-only - also runs fine on my latest Win32 nightly. Pratik [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On 12/04/01 03:38 PM, David Croley wrote: Looks like http://www.flatoday.com/news/space/ will kill my 0.9.6 win2k every time. Probably bad javascript? Guess it still shouldn't crash though. Loaded in 6.8 sec on the latest Linux nightly. Maybe something landed after 0.9.6 that sped it up or maybe it s a Windows only thing.
Re: Recent Nightly destroyed my Bookmarks Separator Lines - Please Help
The cause is, as Neil guessed, the landing of the remake of the bookmarks into an outliner. By using nightlies, you have this risk, and Mozilla is a development browser anyways, not a final, solid, stable product (at least as of yet). In 2001120703, the trouble with the seperators got fixed for me. My trouble was btw that there were four or five seperators on top of each other... all a bit messed up. But as said, for me, it's fixed now. Sören Kuklau Peter Lairo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Peter Lairo wrote: Some recent Nightly Build destroyed my Bookmarks Separator Lines. I forgot mention that my personal toolbar is as barren (empty) as the sahara desert - no bookmarks therre at all. :( I used N6.2 for a few days this week while the nightlies were unstable (always crashed). Could that be the cause? More importantly, how can I fix this (no separators, no toolbar BM's)? PS. I noticed that sidebar BM's don't load on single-click anymore; and a double-click load the BM in a new window - bummer :( -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Re: 0.9.7 branch and bug 114377
I wonder why you're still posting in here if you don't want to use Mozilla anyways. Your comments are uncalled for, not helping, and just plainly annoying. To put it shortly, shut up. (and btw, i know more and more people _using_ Mozilla _on_Win32_, so there _are_ quite many out there) JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... barney wrote: I'm curious why mozilla is branching with a top crasher bug not yet fixed? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114377 IMO, leaving this bug in 0.9.7 will make it pretty unusable, definitely degraded, for a lot of Windows users. Yeah, but how many of them are out there? ;-) It's hard to imagine anyone using a release where you can't right-click on images or you'll crash. I personally think it should have been a blocker bug, but that's just me, I guess. :-\ I backed down to the 11/28 build until this gets fixed. It was killing me trying to open links in new tabs. :-( Or is this a less-serious bug than I think it is? Did you ever try Netscape 6.0? That abomination was more bug than burger, and they let it out the door. If you're asking AOL And Company how serious a bug has to be to block release, you couldn't be asking in a more wrong direction friend.
Re: 0.9.7 branch and bug 114377
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: I wonder why you're still posting in here if you don't want to use Mozilla anyways. On the absolute contrary my Deutchlander friend, Oh you guessed right, I'm from Germany. Now what? I *desperately* want to use Mozilla, at least the newsreader. Hmm... I and the rest of the world can clearly see that Mozilla's browser can never approach the usability, stability, and quality of IE6, No? It can't? Why not? but there still is no real subsitute to NS 4.7x's newsreader. And NS 4.7x's newsreader is very long in the tooth. I had such high hopes that Mozilla's would be so much better than 4.7x's After disappointment heaped upon disappoinment, I no longer hope. It's clear the whole of Mozilla will never be anything more than a rickety old pig, not worthy of running the same race with it's forefather, let alone other offerings. Well... then you needn't follow the discussion any longer, or do you? Oh look, I just right-clicked in 4.7x's email composer. Guess what I saw - yep, a CONTEXT MENU! Undo, copy, cut, paste... they're all there! Well... there's the Edit menu where all these are also there. And I guess they'll soon also be available via context menu. Your comments are uncalled for, not helping, and just plainly annoying. To put it shortly, shut up. My comments are right on the mark, since nobody seems to realize what a horrific state this project is in. Maybe nobody seems to realize it because it's simply not true? Has been in since inception. They are intended to be annoying enough that somebody will take ten minutes and correct a gross defect such as no context menu and then I'll have nothing to bitch about. I gave up trying to help directly (as in coding) quite a while ago when I realized just how much of a stranglehold AOL has over this open project. Well at least you tried to... (and btw, i know more and more people _using_ Mozilla _on_Win32_, so there _are_ quite many out there) Have you seen the numbers? You don't want to. No, I don't want to... I use it happily and if others don't, that's not my problem. Btw, this news message was written on Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 on a Microsoft Windows XP Professional system. And not with MozillaNews. Why not? Because in my opinion, MozillaMail and MozillaNews aren't yet good enough to make the switch.
Re: 0.9.7 branch and bug 114377
Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: Btw, this news message was written on Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0 on a Microsoft Windows XP Professional system. And not with MozillaNews. Why not? Because in my opinion, MozillaMail and MozillaNews aren't yet good enough to make the switch. As I was reading your message I kept wondering why all the quoting was broken (wrapping quoted lines). I remember it used to be a problem, but I hadn't noticed it in the mozilla newsgroups for a while. I was too lazy to wrap it properly because I was actually fed up with Mister JTK when writing that message. Have you tried mozilla mailnews recently? They are much better than they used to be, and they are meant to be getting more attention as we approach 1.0 I know that they're improving a lot, and I tried it, but it's still not enough for me to switch. I think I will at Mozilla 1.0. Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: 0.9.7 branch and bug 114377
Holger Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Am 16.12.2001 19:20 schrieb Sören Kuklau: I know that they're improving a lot, and I tried it, but it's still not enough for me to switch. I think I will at Mozilla 1.0. Outlook Express has so many bugs, especially in the editor... even Mozillas old Mailstones were superior in that area. Look at your posting... the horrible line-wrapping... that's Outlook Express in action. Try Morver/Korrenews to correct most of OE's technical problems (MIME, line wrapping,...): http://home.t-online.de/home/werner.jakobi/ and also check out Outlook tools: http://www.oe-tools.de.vu (enables colored quoting in OE, among other things). I'm well aware of the fact that Outlook Express is very buggy. It's still convenient for me, maybe just because - I'm used to it - it works (which _is_ special on Windows, at least for me ;-) ) - MozillaMail can import Outlook Express I will try out MozillaMail at least in every new milestone, if not in some nightlies.
Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape
Heh, funny, when I didn't really know, I also thought it would be related to IRC. Unfortunately, it isn't ;) Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Peter Lairo wrote: BTW, what is *IIRC* ??? :) I suppose that would be Inside Internet Relay Chat? ;) -- Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P 4th Age webmaster designer - www.4th-age.com Webprogrammer for hire :wq
Re: What is MachV to Mozilla/Netscape???
Probably then one which is recent around one and a half months before the release. (ex.: Netscape 6.5 / MachV gets released in April = Mozilla 0.9.8 was released in February = Netscape 6.5 is based on open-source-only-release Mozilla 0.9.8.1, whereas Mozilla 1.0.0 is nearly out that time - note that this is an example. i would prefer Netscape to release the 6.5 version after Mozilla 1.0.0 is finished, so it'll be a real solid thing.) Bye, Chucker Andrea Monni [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jonas Jørgensen wrote: Just (very) curious ... What is MachV to Mozilla/Netscape??? for instance mentioned here: http://mozilla.org/xpapps/MachVPlan/MachV_NavPlan.html I think it's the code name for Netscape 6.5. On which milestone will it be based on? Andrea -- Andrea Monni [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is our choices, Harry, that Y! IM: andreamonni show what we truly are, far ICQ: 7387142more than our abilities. A. Dumbledore
Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape
Well but AFAIK isn't fully equal to IIRC/AFAIR. I use all of them ;) Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I demand that Sören Kuklau may or may not have written... If I Recall Correctly. Kind of equal to AFAIR (As Far As I Remember / Recall). I'm more used to seeing AFAIK (As Far As I Know) which I use when I'm less sure.
Re: Changes rushed in by Netscape
If I Recall Correctly. Kind of equal to AFAIR (As Far As I Remember / Recall). Regards, Sören Kuklau Peter Lairo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Neil wrote: (because IIRC AltGr ... BTW, what is *IIRC* ??? :) -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Re: What is MachV to Mozilla/Netscape???
Well makes me wonder what's about all those MachV new features though then. Will they be in Mozilla?! Doesn't this disagree to the Mozilla 1.0 Manifest? Chris Hoess [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In article 9vl90q$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sören Kuklau wrote: Probably then one which is recent around one and a half months before the release. (ex.: Netscape 6.5 / MachV gets released in April = Mozilla 0.9.8 was released in February = Netscape 6.5 is based on open-source-only-release Mozilla 0.9.8.1, whereas Mozilla 1.0.0 is nearly out that time - note that this is an example. i would prefer Netscape to release the 6.5 version after Mozilla 1.0.0 is finished, so it'll be a real solid thing.) It's my impression that 6.5 will be based on 1.0. There might be a 6.3 release off of 0.9.8, but I suspect most of the usual branch-stabilizing work will be occurring on the trunk at that time, and there's little reason to release another version before 6.5. -- Chris Hoess
Re: It's December 14th again!
Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from the U.S. 3rd how's this related to Mozilla again? JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Wow, that's great! I'm just like that TV show - I can find out what tragic events happened three days ago, and armed with that postscient knowledge, make sure they never happened! Why I'd be a regular hero, except of course, nobody could ever find out about my amazing ability to see into the past, or everyone would want in on the act! For the love of God will you people just kill this freakshow.
Re: It's December 14th again!
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. See that's what I thought. But according to Mozilla's cache, NOPE! It's still the 14th! Oh. Well your message was a bit cryptic to me. (I'm not native English) So I thought the show's name was It's December 14th again or so? Well anyways, I now understand. Well I usually don't experience these caching problems you're talking about... weird. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from the U.S. Well the cache problems are probably not nation-specific, but I may have thrown you with the TV show reference. There used to be this show over here (I think it's gone now and I don't even remember the name) where the main character would mysteriously get tomorrow's newspaper delivered to him every morning, and there'd be some disaster or something and he'd go out and stop it from happening. I see. Kinda like the Mozilla situation, only in complete reverse. Well situation _for_you_. No, if I were in your position, I wouldn't like this caching trouble either, but this never ever happened to me so far. Did you try the standard steps - checking preferences, re-doing profile, re-doing Mozilla dir etc.? (I guess so, but anyways.) 3rd how's this related to Mozilla again? Mozilla's cache is FUBAR, resulting in me seeing CNN as it was three, four, five days ago. Not that I know the FUBAR acronym. Gotta look it up... - Hmm... http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=FUBARFind=Fi nd Which one? Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: IE chrome for mozilla
Oh come on, JTK... :-/ It works cr*ppy on yours, but it does work just fine on mine. Well to Taras: K-Meleon looks a bit like IE (and is intended to do so), and has the Gecko engine from Mozilla. But an IE chrome... I wonder if anyone would do such a thing (definitly not Netscape, Beonex, etc., and most likely not mozilla.org guys or volunteers). Regards, Sören Kuklau JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Taras wrote: Has anyone seen an IE theme for mozilla? I've got this idea of fooling some people about what apps they are running, but I need an IE skin. Sounds like a fabulous way to endear yourself to your fellow employees. Man, can you guys imagine how pissed you'd be if your IE6 all of a sudden started wigging out, showing you news from a week ago, hogging all memory it can find, crashing like a drunk Indy racer, sleep(10) before every button click, etc etc etc?
Re: It's December 14th again!
dman84 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... as in Messed up.. screwed, hosed. :) ** up? ;-) SCNR
Re: IE chrome for mozilla
H... any screenshots? Oh and is there any patch or chrome or whatever for a full Mozilla MDI Interface (yes, I know tabbrowser, but that's not true MDI... and it's not for myself.). Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: Well to Taras: K-Meleon looks a bit like IE (and is intended to do so), and has the Gecko engine from Mozilla. But an IE chrome... I wonder if anyone would do such a thing (definitly not Netscape, Beonex, etc., and most likely not mozilla.org guys or volunteers). Actually I made an IE skin a while back, (M18 time or something), but I didn't maintain it because of the constant XUL changes. I might make another one once mozilla1.0 is out, or I might just get a set of images that can be swopped into the jar easily. Ian
Re: What is MachV to Mozilla/Netscape???
I have to disagree about the unfortunately part. Have you looked at those MachV notes? Download Manager, for instance? Sounds pretty cool to me. Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Daniel Veditz wrote: Sören Kuklau wrote: Well makes me wonder what's about all those MachV new features though then. Will they be in Mozilla?! Doesn't this disagree to the Mozilla 1.0 Manifest? Yes, it does. Unfortunately, I think that these things will be checked into mozilla anyway. -- Greetings to Echelon and the NSA: president usa attack world trade center afghanistan terrorist terrorism bioterrorism anthrax white house pentagon car bomb
Re: What is MachV to Mozilla/Netscape???
Chris Hoess [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In article 9vqh2h$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sören Kuklau wrote: I have to disagree about the unfortunately part. Have you looked at those MachV notes? Download Manager, for instance? Sounds pretty cool to me. Unfortunately, features do not spring from programmer's heads fully-debugged and stable. True, true. Let's just hope it'll work out great. We don't want another release like Netscape 6.0, do we?
Re: It's December 14th again!
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mozilla's cache is FUBAR, resulting in me seeing CNN as it was three, four, five days ago. Not that I know the FUBAR acronym. Gotta look it up... Sorry, your english is too good, I keep forgetting you're not a native speaker! _Too_ good eh? I oughta apply for a Mozilla.org job then ;-) j/k Hmm... http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=FUBARFind=Fi nd Which one? Failed UniBus Address Register. ;-) No, like others have already said, F'ed Up Beyond All Recognition. It does date at least as far back as WWII, but I've never looked that deeply into the history of the term - it's a rather timeless sentiment ;-). Thanks for that link by the way, that's a keeper. In my *IE6* bookmarks, of course ;-). AcronymFinder.com is really good... at some point, I think I searched for IIRC back when I didn't know what it was on Google and it pointed me to there. Well but you gotta admit that the term bookmarks is better than favourites ;-)
Re: IE chrome for mozilla
Thanks, the shot looks neat. I partly still prefer the old Modern chrome - sorry - to the new one... it was a bit _more_ different. Maybe not convenient enough or so though... The way you arranged the menu bar is interesting. So we have both IE _and_ Mozilla menus, right? Sören Kuklau Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: H... any screenshots? Oh and is there any patch or chrome or whatever for a full Mozilla MDI Interface (yes, I know tabbrowser, but that's not true MDI... and it's not for myself.). I did have a look for it last night, and couldn't find it. But now I have, take a look at http://www.qatlantis.blinksworld.com/other/ieskin/ You can download the zip too if you want. And yes, that is a WindowBlinds skin of Modern 1 running in the background, so you can imagine that the chrome has changed quite a lot since. At the time, the classic skin did not exist (I stopped working on the skin a couple of months before the classic skin was included). Ian
Re: IE chrome for mozilla
0.8, I think. Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: Thanks, the shot looks neat. I partly still prefer the old Modern chrome - sorry - to the new one... it was a bit _more_ different. Maybe not convenient enough or so though... The way you arranged the menu bar is interesting. So we have both IE _and_ Mozilla menus, right? Um, I'm not sure. I think so. That, or I was in the process of moving to IE-style menus. I think I had both though. You would have to install the skin (anyone know when modern 2 was checked in? In milestone terms) Ian
Re: Can't load any URL which I type
Are you using the same profile? It most likely got messed up from such a large updating step. Try creating a fresh one and then using it with 0.9.7. Hans Dockter [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm using Mozilla since 0.92 and I just installed 0.9.7 on my linux system. It's no problem to load an URL via a bookmark. But if I type in a URL and press enter nothing(!) happens. Quite a serious flaw, I have no idea what to do. Hans
Re: Fine-grained JavaScript control not in nightlies?
I don't see it (and can't recall ever having seen it), 2001-12-21-03 / Win32. Is it Platform-specific? Travis Crump [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jason Bassford wrote: According to the release notes for Mozilla 0.9.7, Mozilla has a new advanced preference panel for fine-grained JavaScript control. I have dowloaded the latest nightly, 122103, and this preference isn't there. Does it exist in the 0.9.7 branch only, and not the trunk, or are the release notes wrong? I notice that Bug 75371 is not yet marked as FIXED - so has it actually been checked in? Jason. Preferences - Advanced-Scripts and Windows. I see it in the milestone and I also saw it in my 12/14 trunk build...
Re: Style-sheets no longer working with 0.9.7
Maybe the server is sending improper mime types? Marcel de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag 3c24f04a$0$69031$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:3c24f04a$0$69031$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I've just downloaded 0.9.7 and I've now got a problem with style-sheets not working anymore when their location is defined from the site-root link rel=stylesheet href=/adam.css type=text/cssdoesn't work When I use: link rel=stylesheet href=../adam.css type=text/css it does work.. Is there anything in the prefs, or is this a new 'feature' of the 0.9.7 build? I've tried it on both Windows 2000 Professional and XP Professional. 0.9.6 does still use the style-sheets Marcel
Re: Style-sheets no longer working with 0.9.7
Jonas Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Marcel de Groot wrote: Maybe the server is sending improper mime types? What should the MIME type be for style-sheets? They're now served as text/plain text/css for Cascading Style Sheets. So there we have it. Since 0.9.7, the MIME type behaviour of Mozilla is stricter. CSS with text/plain MIME type will be ignored.
Re: Fine-grained JavaScript control not in nightlies?
Jason Bassford [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Preferences - Advanced-Scripts and Windows. I see it in the milestone and I also saw it in my 12/14 trunk build... I don't see it here. I can't find it either. whether or not my 12/14 build is trunk or 0.9.7 branch since I download nightlies from the 'latest' folder... I also download from the nightly/lastest folder, and have never seen a Scripts and Windows section of Advanced. Ditto. Does it require that I blow away all data, including profile with prefs.js, and start from scratch? Hopefully not :-/
Re: how to disable unwanted pop-up windows,etc
It's - don't ask me why - in the 0.9.7 branch, but not in the trunk. Arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Do any of you know why I don't have Scripts windows in edit--preferences, Advanced? (W2k, mozilla 2001122208) On 23-12-2001 16:15, djg made an attempt to write... edit--preferences, Advanced, Scripts windows, uncheck: Open windows by themselves (ie, on page load/quit or by timer), and make windows flip over/under other windows -- Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Arthur Costerus Private E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tabbed Browsing problem
Yes, it was never implemented properly so far. Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... DeMoN LaG wrote: I see the same behavior, I'd look for/file a bug on it. Dunno when this stopped working, didn't know it existed until the other day and never tried it until you just posted :/ I seem to remember that this was never implemented, and thus never worked... but it will, someday... -- Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P 4th Age webmaster designer - www.4th-age.com Webprogrammer for hire :wq
Re: Internet Explorer and Mozilla
Jens Schlatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Why is it microsoft allowed to use the signature mozilla in their internet explorer? Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98) It says Mozilla-_compatible_, not Mozilla itself. I think Opera and most other major browser also do this. It's common due to historical reasons.
Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly
Because the point of the creator codes is to have them equal for _one_ application. Netscape 6 is, by the name (!), a new version of Netscape. So Commun. 4.x and Netsc. 6 have the same creator code. Netscape _should_ leave the same code. Jonas can change it on his own if it bugs him that much. Not much hassle to do so. QD edit. Jonas Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... DeMoN LaG wrote: actually no. on the Mac Platform Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.7.9 share the exact same Type and creator Codes APPL / MOSS. Shoulda kept your mouth shut, Jonas. Now we gotta here the whole speel about type and creator codes again. Sorry. I don't know much about type/creator codes, but why can't Netscape just change one stupid letter so Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. can stop wasting our time? -- /Jonas
Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The Type/Creator code system is not such a bad idea. remember you have 4 places in creator code and Type code. You can concevieably use any of the 26 letters in the alphabet in each place. I hope my math is right but the are 26 to the fourth power different combinations in each. so there are almost infinite possibilities. Actually, it's a lot more since each letter is case _sensitive_.
Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You do have to remember though that the 26^4 possibility is just for the Type Code or the Creator code by itself. If you consider both together that means that there are 26^4 permutations for the Type Code and 26^4 permutations for creator code. how about the three letter extension system in DOS/windows that's only 26^3. No, it isn't any more. Its length is no longer limited since windows 95. See extensions like .theme, .mstheme and .manifest. But it's case insensitive, which the mac system isn't (which makes it not 26^4, but 52^4 or so).
Re: themes
Lucas MacBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Stewart hector wrote: Hi Since www.themes.org is now load of utter crap (which used to be good for mozilla themes), where can you now find mozzila themes? thanks. There are a few at: http://www.geocities.com/alfredkayser/mozilla/themes.htm I suspect there aren't many people making any more new ones until the specs stop changing. Is this the case? Yes. People will wait until that. Have the specs finalized? No.
Re: Close Button on Tabs
Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Helge Hielscher wrote: Why dont you use the middle mouse button for closing tabs? IMHO it is much more convinient. Doesn't close tabs on Windows, and I wouldn't want it to, since it's the open this link in a new tab/window button. I'd hate it if I clicked just above or below a link I wanted to launch in a new tab and instead it closed the one I was browsing in! Actually, it's as follows: - Mid-click on a link results in opening it in a new window or new tab (dependant on settings) - Mid-click on rest of the page so far does nothing (will probably / hopefully later on do auto-scroll) - Mid-click on tab itself closes it - Mid-click on empty part of tab bar does nothing (will hopefully open new tab later on)
Re: Close Button on Tabs
Maybe mid-click should do a pie menu? Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: - Mid-click on rest of the page so far does nothing (will probably / hopefully later on do auto-scroll) I would prefer it if mid-click on page would load the URL in the clipboard (as it does on Linux)
Re: Mozilla crash/boom on image map
Bill Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Right clicking on the menu bar image map (to bring up the popup) crashes Mozilla everytime. I've sent in feed back. N6.2 works as expected. Moz 0.9.7 on Win2000 http://www.copicmarker.com/ Crash for me too, 2001-12-28-03, Windows XP Pro. A site that totaly fails with Moz (undoubtably written for IE) http://www.irwintoy.com/ Works fine for me. http://www.3com.com/ , then again, doesn't need to be commented any further :-/ (ironically, it has the netscape logo as favicon for me)
Re: Theme choices, Print Preview, examples of bad underlying code?
jdavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am beginning to wonder what's so difficult about making more themes available for this browser The theme code is still rewritten from time to time, so it makes no sense to write lots of themes - they won't work in further versions. The XUL API has yet to freeze. and what's so hard about fixing print preview, Easy: That's low priority. and fixing the sorting of History (retaining it), Same. and maybe whether it points to Mozilla being poorly written code that is hard to fix without causing other problems. I doubt it, but can't comment on it as I don't know its source code. I'm no C programmer either. Also, why does it take like 30 seconds to a minute to load any Java stuff on most pages? That's Sun's fault, not Mozilla's. Their plug-in seems to be kinda slowish. And why is it when I scroll down a page like the Wall Street Journal, that it takes a full second pause between each screen as I am paging downward or upward? www.wsj.com (need to be subscriber) I'm no subscriber so I can't test it. Maybe too much DHTML usage? I cannot offhand think of another website that behaves like that but there are plenty. Why has my Realplayer worked on certain pages before, but no longer works despite the fact that I've left the plugins folder untouched as I keep trying the new builds? Could you be more specific: when did it work, since when doesn't it any longer? I try most every build as they come down the pike and these issues stay the same. Anyone else getting annoyed by problems like this? No. Not these. And look at the version number, we're still 4 months away from final 1.0.
Re: Mozilla crash/boom on image map
Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: A site that totaly fails with Moz (undoubtably written for IE) http://www.irwintoy.com/ Works fine for me. It didn't WFM ... did you click the ReBoot image to open a new window? Couldn't find that image (i could find a link Reboot, but that didn't open a new window). that window is rather broken... but it seems the site is sending NS-specific code... the source sources a file named NSscrollbars.js and uses layer I see. A tech evangelism bug should be filed. I agree.
Re: spinning alpha-PNG cube...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... petern wrote: Hi. I've made a little DHTML page to test the performance of DHTML in Mozilla. You can have a look at it here: http://www.formula-one.nu/dhtml/moz3d.htm It's quite sluggish but hopefully the DHTML performance in Mozilla will be better someday.. :) Don't set the timeout to 1. Locked up the browser with 99% processor usage here. Same here. Seems to run best on timeout 100.
Re: Instant Messengers with Moz/NS 6+
Nigel L [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Doesn't seem offtopic -- messaging is an important web app; having all those messaging services simultaneously in the browser sidebar would be a KILLER APP. No, it would be bloatware. There should at least be the possibility to have them uninstalled again. Also, when Mozilla crashes, they all will crash with it...
Re: Personal Toolbar not working
Go to manage bookmarks, then choose a folder and in the edit (?) menu, choose Set as Personal Toolbar Folder. Should do it. Skip Queen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag a0l2ds$c4p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a0l2ds$c4p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My Personal Toolbar has stopped working,i.e., the bar itself is visible but no bookmarks are present (except for one marked bookmarks) If I click that one it then shows the rest. How do I get them to reappear on the bar as before? Thanks -- They told me I needed WIN95 or better So I chose Linux!
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
I yesterday even convinced my brother (!) to try out Mozilla, and guess what, first response was OMG! It's COOL! and he's still searching for real disadvantages. JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Geoff wrote: [snip] Thanks both to Jonas and to you Albert. As I said, I was looking for an explanation, not making a criticism, and that holds good. Even so, and speaking as someone who has invested much time and effort in ridding his business of M$ products, I am left wondering about the ability of the open source community to win this particular standards battle. Two things: 1. Regardless of what people are telling you, it's not a standards battle. Mozilla is so poorly written that it simply dies on most pages regardless of their standardness, and the further outside the lines the page is, the wackier Mozilla gets. 2. I want all nations of the world to speak English. But not just English, the specific dialect of English that I do. That way I don't have to go to the trouble of learning all those other languages, nor the idioms of all the different English dialects. How much chance do you think I have of getting that to happen? Right, about as much chance as Mozilla has of getting a DTD on everybody's pages. Including their own home page. I send emails complaining to the webmasters of sites that require Ie, and if I understood the technicalities better, I would complain about any non-standards-compliant features I detected. I just don't get the impression that we are having any impact at all here, Mozilla is having exactly zero impact here. Why? Nobody uses it. Nobody's posted numbers recently, I'd love to see how low the percentage is these days. and it is very depressing when one gives demonstrations of open source systems only to find that the browsers are (in my personal and maybe untypical Very typical. experience), very likely to choke on many of the sites that I need to take people to. Regards, Geoff
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Not quite: No matter what you choose in Opera's Identify as:, it always includes Opera/version in the user agent string. Helge Hielscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... gavin long wrote: For reference, Opera has 0.4% and 0.1%, respectively. That must be wrong. IIRC Opera's userAgentString is per Default MS IE. Regards, Helge
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... (1) Am I right in thinking that there is nothing that Moz could ever do to correct the bad sniffing problem? In other words, if a site sends stuff that is obviously intended for NS is there simply no way that Moz could default to NS behaviour - not even with a whole lot of extra code? I am asking a theoretical question here, not necessarily a practical one. Well, if Mozilla supported the things NS did support, it would work. But _practically_, that won't happen. (2) What is bad about layers? Are they in some sense dangerous (which seems unlikely to me, but maybe I am wrong), or do they simply offend some programming paradigm? Why, in other words, is it (apparently) an article of faith that Moz will never support them? Could they not be supported with a warning, or optionally supported, or any damn thing that keeps me from having to fire up a different browser? One of Mozilla's (the new one / Seamonkey, not MozillaClassic) most important aims is standards compliance. Netscape 4's layer tag never made it to any standard and never will either because there are better things. I just don't think that we can teach the world how to be. No, we can't. But we can try to make a difference.
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is the heart of the matter. Yes, it is. I think that most of use here would accept that we are engaged in a conflict with M$. Concerning operating systems, there's Mac OS and Linux against M$'s Windows. Concerning browsers, there's Mozila, Opera, and so on against the Internet Explorer. Many use these alternatives not because they don't like the way Internet Explorer is, but mainly because they hate M$. So yes, you might call this a conflict. Maybe even a battle. Where we differ is as to tactics in this part of the battlefield. From the perspective of a linux user I feel that I have enough difficulties weaning people away from Windows without needing to explain to them the importance of this battle at the same time. I am quite happy, as it were, to dress up as the enemy (if that is what being non-standard involves), if that is what is needed at this time to give me the enormously powerful weapon of a browser that can, from a user's perspective, do anything IE can do. I can appreciate that your point of view may be different. And I appreciate that people like you have another point of view. It's a tough matter, and I think a similar thing was in mid-98, when Apple introduced the iMac. It had no floppy drive, no SCSI, no ADB, and so on - before that, every Mac had it, and literally nobody wanted one to be without it. With this radical movement, Apple could move quite a lot of people - fortunately involving many hardware manufacturers too - to USB, which was introduced by iMac as a replacement for ADB and low-speed SCSI devices. They could have as well brought iMac _with_ these legacy interfaces, and provided a note in the manual Usage of floppy drives is no longer recommended. - but people would have laughed at that and said oh well, but what if I still use it, hmm?. Now, the legacy interfaces are things like Netscape 4's layer tag, and the new replacement would be the standards compliant div. Mozilla does the radical way just like Apple did back then, and so far isn't really that successful. It'll take quite a lot of time. mozilla.org has a Tech Evangelism team which talks with owners of huge sites like those you've mentioned, and tries to convince them to make their sites more standards compliant - and thus more compatible to Gecko-based browsers like Mozilla, Netscape 6, K-Meleon, and so on. Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And how many search out the Opera part of the user agent? Some people ID IE by looking for Mozilla/4.0 (compatible...) and ignore everything else. Whether that's true or not, this behaviour would be pathetic. There are lots of browser which are Mozilla 4.0-compatible. IE, iCab, Opera, the new Mozilla, and so on. IE 6 should have a new string starting with Mozilla/5.0 (compatible), or just starting with IE/6.0 (does IE/Win have a browser engine name or a code name? On IE/Mac, it's Tasman).
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, that seems an excellent analogy Soren, thanks :-) and I have learned much from this thread. I can only wish the Tech Evangelists good fortune. Yes, me too. It's an important task, and difficult too. I am on their side. Even so, I am lucky enough to be able to pay for my software if I need to - I support open source because it is better not because it is cheaper - and I would willingly pay top dollar for a linux Moz-like browser that could render anything the web could throw at it. I doubt that's going to happen. Mozilla happened mainly due to funding from AOL TimeWarner (through Netscape), Redhat and others. Same goes to most other open-source software - there has to be some money here and there. (for instance: Konqueror = part of KDE = funding through SuSE, Mandrake, etc. to my knowledge) So, it would need to be an organisation with at least as much finance as Mozilla.org and with the aim to even surpass Mozilla's Gecko / NGLayout engine. Highly unlikely. What can be done is to use the engine but not use other stuff like XUL, XPFE, etc. which some consider bloat. The result would be products like K-Meleon and Galeon, which do have its advantages too. In the long term, the idea of Mozilla to be as standards compliant as possible and to try to ignore non-standard stuff will hopefully succeed and be copied by Opera, Konqueror, iCab, others, and - gasp! - Internet Explorer. I wish you a happy new year (by your e-mail address, you seem to be living in the UK, so you have nearly 2 hours to go) and a lot of fun with Mozilla, Sören Kuklau
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I understand - just wishful-thinking on my part really. Yes, I see. What can be done is to use the engine but not use other stuff like XUL, XPFE, etc. which some consider bloat. The result would be products like K-Meleon and Galeon, which do have its advantages too. Yes, I began to use Galeon when for some reason (maybe my compilation options), made Moz feel very slow - even on a well-specified system. Also I do no need the mail and news functions, preferring sylpheed and pan. I am bound to say, however, that Moz 0.9.7 is very responsive and I am using it a lot. Yes, 0.9.7 is yet another big step forwards. Thank you and the same to you. Thanks. 10.25pm here as I write, but I have seen a few New Years before this one, and will probably be in bed at the magic hour. Judging also from your e-mail address - good luck with the new currency :-) Yes, Euro... hmm... it does _look_ good, at least ;-) G'night.
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Not with 0.75% market share and stagnating you can't. I recently even convinced my brother to move. And it's not yet final. The magical number. 1.0.
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just thought I'd add my 2c, and this is not a flame, the question was eloquently put and I am in the same category - I consider myself an avid enthusiast;I absolutley admire this technology and those that have the where-with-all to put all of this together for the rest of us to use in our everyday work and recreation. One really interesting aspect of all of this is that everyone can have completely different experiences using the exact same software but on different OS's or machines. I, for one, have had a very different experience using the Mozilla builds, I've actually rid my system of of Netscape 4.x and 6.x, 6.x seems to be about 8 steps behind Mozilla on any given day, I now find that I use Mozilla about 99% of the time now; I have a very good browsing experience and the email/newsgroups works perfectly on my machine. This was simply my 2c re: this post and my high compliments to those capable contributors to this project. I can literally fully second this. Perhaps I should insert this in a separate post; there have been a lot of responses to Geoff's post and this may get lost in the shuffle but here goes: I update my builds fairly frequently, just wanted to check if I'm doing this correctly: I go to the www.mozilla.org page and then go to the box 'nightly builds' and then I click on my OS (Win) and download begins. It seems I am downloading a complete new program each time. Does this download actually build on my previous installation or does it completely install a whole new installation of the Mozilla 0.9.7+ build? In other words, am I downloading more than I should each time? As I stated, I am an enthusiast. No, you're doing everything right (though I use a slightly different method: I go to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk/?M=D to have it sorted by newest chronologically so I usually see immediately whether there _is_ a newer build for my platform [win32]). Each nightly is a complete package of the Mozilla Seamonkey browser suite, and not an _update_ or _patch_ to the earlier one. But you won't be losing any personal config or mail or whatever data as that's stored in the profiles which don't get overwritten (unless the nightly you're downloading is slightly broken and overwriting stuff). Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: Why can't moz do what Netscape can?
Where's your post?! Chris Lee nospam@nospam schrieb im Newsbeitrag 3C32065F.5090808@nospam">news:3C32065F.5090808@nospam... Sören Kuklau wrote: JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just thought I'd add my 2c, and this is not a flame, the question was eloquently put and I am in the same category - I consider myself an avid enthusiast;I absolutley admire this technology and those that have the where-with-all to put all of this together for the rest of us to use in our everyday work and recreation. One really interesting aspect of all of this is that everyone can have completely different experiences using the exact same software but on different OS's or machines. I, for one, have had a very different experience using the Mozilla builds, I've actually rid my system of of Netscape 4.x and 6.x, 6.x seems to be about 8 steps behind Mozilla on any given day, I now find that I use Mozilla about 99% of the time now; I have a very good browsing experience and the email/newsgroups works perfectly on my machine. This was simply my 2c re: this post and my high compliments to those capable contributors to this project. I can literally fully second this. Perhaps I should insert this in a separate post; there have been a lot of responses to Geoff's post and this may get lost in the shuffle but here goes: I update my builds fairly frequently, just wanted to check if I'm doing this correctly: I go to the www.mozilla.org page and then go to the box 'nightly builds' and then I click on my OS (Win) and download begins. It seems I am downloading a complete new program each time. Does this download actually build on my previous installation or does it completely install a whole new installation of the Mozilla 0.9.7+ build? In other words, am I downloading more than I should each time? As I stated, I am an enthusiast. No, you're doing everything right (though I use a slightly different method: I go to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest-trunk/?M=D to have it sorted by newest chronologically so I usually see immediately whether there _is_ a newer build for my platform [win32]). Each nightly is a complete package of the Mozilla Seamonkey browser suite, and not an _update_ or _patch_ to the earlier one. But you won't be losing any personal config or mail or whatever data as that's stored in the profiles which don't get overwritten (unless the nightly you're downloading is slightly broken and overwriting stuff). Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: DOM inspector?
Document Object Model. http://www.w3.org/DOM/ For those who don't know what DOM is, the DOM inspector is useless. It's rather a tool for html and javascript authors. Erik Harris ehar$is1@$ocheste$.r$.com schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm looking through Mozilla's help (which seems pretty sparse) and mozilla.org, and I still don't really understand what DOM is. The release notes say that the purpose of the DOM inspector is to inspect a document's DOM, which seems to be a rather useless circular definition for those of us who don't really have any idea what DOM is, what its purpose is, and what good it can do for us. Could someone be so kind as to briefly explain the basics of what? and why? of DOM? Thanks Erik Harris eharris1@rocheste$.$$.com http://w3.to/erikICQ: 2610172 Chinese Martial Arts Assoc @ Cornell: http://w3.to/CMAAC/ To avoid Spam-bots, my address at the top is INCORRECT. Change each dollar sign to an r.
Re: .97 2002010508 (win32) - A keeper!
Yup, that one was good. 2002-01-05-11 though isn't that good - crash on preferences opening. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This build really seems to be the best I've used so far, in every way. In fact, come on, . . . pop the champagne cork and call it 1.0. :) Mark -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NewZilla
Is there any chance that NewZilla gets updated again? (last updated June 14th, 2001) I considered it a useful ressource for Newbies to Netscape 6 and Mozilla. I think a FAQ like that is needed. We have two news sites - mozillazine and mozillanews - , but I think we also need sites with comprehensive general information. Finished FAQs such as the spellchecker one ( http://www.mozilla.org.uk/docs/spell-checker-faq.html ) should be integrated into the site. Also, this site should collect themes, splash screens, icon sets and similar stuff. Anyone agree that such a site would be useful? Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: Just curious ...
Usually daily. Sometimes there are multiple nightlies a day; then it happens that I updated several times that day. Sometimes also switch back to branch or switch over to most recent SVG/MathML experimental build. JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was just curious to see how often some of you update your Mozilla builds. I used to daily, cut back now to once per week. (Mondays)
Re: Just curious ...
Ever tried to un- and then re-install it? Gregory Spath [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In [EMAIL PROTECTED], JS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was just curious to see how often some of you update your Mozilla builds. I used to daily, cut back now to once per week. (Mondays) Used to daily, until 0.9.7 came out. Ever since 0.9.7, the mozilla linux build is broken for me under linux on redhat, suse, and mandrake on two different computers, so I've determined it is *NOT* my setup. So I'm on 0.9.6 until the linux issues are fixed. Specifically, after first run, I lose all text in the button bars (back, forward, etc), and no context menus work at all (get a little ~4x4 pixel square where the damned menu should be. What the hell? --g -- Gregory Spath [EMAIL PROTECTED] irc://freefall.homeip.net/mtb Aim: fr33f411
Re: Problem with personal toolbar + small window width in latest builds
That did happen for me on the 01-05 build which you also seem to be using (on a different platform though). As that build also crashed on preferences window opening, I went back to 01-04 and all was fine. Joni K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I noticed this (pretty serious, imho) bug with today's and yesterday's builds on Linux. When the browser window is resized so that its width is smaller than the width of all the icons and stuff on the personal toolbar, the scrollbar on the right is not visible and the page doesn't wrap properly. (Other things such as the throbber and the padlock icon also disappear.) Screenshot to clarify: http://www.iki.fi/jonik/moz1.png When the personal toolbar is hidden, there's no problem: http://www.iki.fi/jonik/moz2.png Also reproduced this with a clean profile... (Initially the personal toolbar only has a few items, so you need to make the window really small.) I couldn't find this in bugzilla. Does anyone know a bug# or any other relevant information..? -- Joni
Re: NewZilla
Peter Lairo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: Anyone agree that such a site would be useful? I totally agree :) That would be one person after four hours. Hmm (then again, what do I expect - it's Sunday, and still winter holidays for many). Thank you anyways.
Re: .97 2002010508 (win32) - A keeper!
Maybe it was 2002-01-05-08... can't remember. Dan Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: Yup, that one was good. 2002-01-05-11 though isn't that good - crash on preferences opening. I had this same problem with 2002010508 (and can't find 11 for Win32). I went back to 2002010403 with good results.
Re: LittleMozilla is updated for latest builds (0.9.8-)
Fulvio Perini [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Since this came up ,what is changed? All the major bugs are still there.I did not like 0.9.7,and 0.9.7+ follows its path with crummy Navigator icons,and defective Print Preview. Unless something changed in the past two days,I will not waste my time. Mozilla0.9.6 seemed on its way to something,but things went downhill after that. Please,tell me that I am wrong. Thanks. For me, 0.9.7+ is just fine. How about waiting for three or four weeks, getting the 0.9.8 release or a 0.9.8+ nightly, and seeing whether it has improved for ya?
Re: How's 1.0 look?
Dan Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... dman84 wrote: sidebar in mail/news content is horked, horked? IMUI, I have no idea what that one means. Erm... how about totally messed up?
Re: How's 1.0 look?
Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... download manager still needs to land. Download manager? Way cool, no more need to use GetRight Yes, Netscape's MachV also includes a download manager. Both Mozilla (at 1.0.0?) and Netscape (6.5 or 7.0?) will have it. (which doesnt want to play nice with mozilla anyway) Known bug - see here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58744#c33 (comment #33 by Matti)
Re: How's 1.0 look?
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jonathan Wilson wrote: download manager still needs to land. Download manager? Read: Ad pump. Read: Hey, let's go on bashing Mozilla!
Re: How's 1.0 look?
Mike Koenecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... In article a1mtd6$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sören Kuklau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jonathan Wilson wrote: download manager still needs to land. Download manager? Read: Ad pump. Read: Hey, let's go on bashing Mozilla! Is there any other reason JTK ever posts anything? If he has ever said anything constructive, it has entirely escaped me. Waste of time and energy to even think about it :-)
Re: fileinput click() rfe?
jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... dude chill. It would be the site that was annoying you, not the browser. Feel free not to visit sites that annoy you...I don't care. It's used for many other things, emulating a user click is a very handy shortcut for a lot of situations, like innerHTML. innerHTML to my knowledge is yet another proprietary Microsoft thing. It's just really handy for styling the file input widget, which only IE is able to style at all. If it doesn't work in Mozilla, then it's probably not in any standard. So IE shouldn't be able to do it either. Mozilla gives the developer no control over it at all. It shouldn't. The reason most sites look horrible in Netscape 4.x these days is because developers were not given the power the IE gave them, so they stopped developing for it. Probably because someone was afraid a feature would annoy some nit-picker *cough*. If you call strict standards _non_-compliance power... Actually, Netscape 4 is from mid-97, so you can hardly compare it with a recent IE.
Re: Style-sheets no longer working with 0.9.7
When a page using a strict document type declaration (e.g. HTML 4.01 Strict) links to an external style sheet (using link, @import, etc) Mozilla will load the style sheet only if it is served with a MIME type of text/css. Style sheets served with other MIME types, like text/plain, application/x-pointplus, etc. will not be loaded. To add the proper css mime type to an Apache web servers, add text/css css to the system mime.types file. Or if you can't do that, add AddType text/css .css to your .htaccess file. It was intentionally implemented. Ronald Buckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Markus Brueckner wrote: Sören Kuklau wrote: So there we have it. Since 0.9.7, the MIME type behaviour of Mozilla is stricter. CSS with text/plain MIME type will be ignored. Not really. Only if you use HTML 4.0 STRICT. Else all will work even without text/css (according to the release notes). Also it shouldn't work with the relative paths either. I assume that'S not the source of his problems. Markus I've also had a problem with external stylesheets not working on 0.9.7 when the DTD was set to the following !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; and the server's mime type for .css was set to text/plain . If, you take the second quoted portion out of the DOCTYPE statement, the stylesheet would work, since the browser would render the page in quirks mode.
Some clarification
I just asked whether people agreed so I could find out whether there generally is interest - which there is, seemingly even by mozilla.org staff (Gerv). As soon as I find some time, I'll try and start designing it. Regards, Sören Kuklau
Re: Automatic favicon.ico requests
Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Andersen wrote: And one of the rules (although perhaps not written out because it is so completely obvious) is that a user agent doesn't go and ask web servers for random files just because there might possibly be a file with that name that would be useful. It just isn't right. robots.txt? Are you saying that Mozilla downloads robots.txt? No, but another user agent does: the search engine.
Re: Automatic favicon.ico requests
Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: No, but another user agent does: the search engine. You can't compare this. robots.txt described which files the search engine should index. True. Thus, its location cannot be given in a HTML File, because maybe robots.txt says it should not index the file. Right. Just like the .htaccess file gives the http server information on how to handle the directory. Furthermore, there are only a few search engine robots, compared to the number of browser users. True. I'm not gonna defend the favicon behaviour, but I also consider it futile to further bother to complain against it. In other words: You gotta live with it.
Re: Some clarification
Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: I just asked whether people agreed so I could find out whether there generally is interest - which there is, seemingly even by mozilla.org staff (Gerv). As soon as I find some time, I'll try and start designing it. Excellent. A good set of FAQs for Mozilla would be a great resource. My tip would be to collect the data first (in a plain text file, or whatever) and worry about the markup later; because www.mozilla.org is evolving at the moment, things may change. That's exactly what I'll be doing - except in simple HTML (XHTML 1.1 with a simple CSS2), because I find that a lot more clear for myself. (Don't expect anything too soon as I'm busy with other projects and jobs.)
Re: Automatic favicon.ico requests
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... David Gerard wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:12:10 -0600, JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Sören Kuklau wrote: : True. I'm not gonna defend the favicon behaviour, but I also consider it : futile to further bother to complain against it. In other words: You gotta : live with it. :Right, now let's all say it together: What AOL wants, AOL gets, and the :rest of the Open Maozilla community has no option but to suck it down. It's open source; if you really want to start JTKzilla, go right ahead. You could be the next Theo de Raadt! Why would I want to base a project on something as wildly broken as Maozilla? No, were I in the mood, I'd just wrap a native UI around an IE control and have a better browser than AOLzilla in an afternoon, then take an edit control, cobble a NNTP backend to it, and wrap another native UI around the whole works and have a better newsgroup reader than Mozilla by late that evening, and have the rest of the weekend to enjoy my success instead of wallow in Mozilla's failure. What image format would you use? GIF? Sorry, licensing issues. JPEG? Sorry, quality issues. PNG? Sorry, IE has alpha and gamma channel issues. Something else? Sorry, won't comply to the standards.
Re: Automatic favicon.ico requests
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: What image format would you use? GIF? Sorry, licensing issues. JPEG? Sorry, quality issues. PNG? Sorry, IE has alpha and gamma channel issues. Something else? Sorry, won't comply to the standards. Wow, looks like you really got ol' JTK, huh Soren? What IMAGE FORMAT would I use?!?! That's the BEST you can come up with? Jeez. Oh, I know. BMP. Or better yet, MS-PNG ;-)
Re: How's 1.0 look?
Blake Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well I mean come on now, it's only been a year! It's not like they haven't been working on all kinds of other stuff, such as... well there's the... um... oh! There's a context menu now! That's what took a year! Yeah, see, they were working on it all year, and I just happened to bitch about it a week or so before it got added. Completely coincidental that! I dunno...seems like you've been on about it for a year, too. Anyway, I implemented the context menu, and it didn't have anything to do with you, so...yes, coincidental. Your blatant sarcasm turns out to be right 99% of the time ;-) Sure, coincidences... blah... Everyone knows you just implemented it to make JTK shut up! But no, he still goes on and on... ;-) :: Fire Dave Hyatt! :: You don't like him, eh? ;-)
Re: FIRE DAVE HYATT Petition Results
Hyatt SUCKZ! AWAY WITH HIM!!! HE'S DEVIL ON EARTH!! ;-) Blake Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... 76% of respondents wanted Dave Hyatt to be fired. 21% of respondents wanted a more severe punishment. - of these, 12% considered a lifetime of coding in only XBL as adequate retribution. The remaining 3% of respondents couldn't muster up anything more intelligent than DOWN WITH FAVICON, THE WORK OF THE DEVIL Results have been forward to the proper administration. Blake
Re: How to write hello world to javascript console?
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dave Morse wrote: How do I write a javascript statement that writes to the javascript console? Something like: debug( my favorite number is + x ); === my favorite number is 6 Thank you. I think this is the wrong newsgroup (unless Mozilla makes you do things completely differently), but the little I care to know about Javascript comes from msdn.microsoft.com (search for Windows Scripting Host). I'm sure there are plenty of tutorials out there on the web that are orders of magnitude more worthwhile than anything MS has though. Search Google. I thought _you_were_ aware that Microsoft did _not_ develop JavaScript, but instead its pathetic rip-off they call JScript. JavaScript is indeed developed by mozilla.org (formerly by Netscape). It's also a standard, ECMA-262.
Re: FIRE DAVE HYATT Petition Results
tj gilcarvr [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Christopher Rued wrote: Lucas MacBride wrote: Andrea Monni wrote: Chris Hoess wrote: Huh? But I thought the plan was to back out XBL completely! That's what bug 50349 is all about, and I thought it was going to happen soon, since the bug is assigned to... oh. nevermindforgetaboutitthen. Nooo! XBL kills babies! It must be stopped! Won't somebody think of the chiildren? I thought that programming in XBL added inches to your penis! It reduces your mortgage rate too! And will make you a millionaire in just 90 days! and you'll lose 12 pounds in 48 hours And with all this, your name still won't change to Dave Hyatt.
Re: Toolbar Customization Spec!
yatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:a22291$106b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=65067 !!
Re: Would a Less-zilla be faster ?
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... jesus X wrote: Installation scripts, many programs' configuration files, it's all text based. No program's UI is. Except Mozilla. And partly Winamp3, for instance. Mozilla's use of XML for it's UI language Why does a UI need a language? I don't want my browser buttons to do anything but push and do what they say on the label. To make it more versatile, perhaps?
Re: [HELP] Bug number of rollover problem
The problem might be that Mozilla is loading the rollover image while you hover the original one. On a slow server, this will of course take some time. IE (on Windows) does it the same way. A preload script might a solution. Don't think this is a bug. Vincent Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi everyone ! I think I once found a bug (in bugzilla) talking about the slowness of rollover in Mozilla : sometimes they are fast, but most of the time, they are very slow. Anyone knows this bug # ? -- Le Vintz. http://membres.tripod.fr/vnicolas/
Re: Why don't many links work?
Lucas MacBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... LAR wrote: Mozilla .0.9.7 Linux Win32 Many sites that have Java menus don't work. Whats up? Hovering over the link usually shows javascript void(0) or something like that. When the link is clicked, Mozilla shows that it took .95 secs. to load and nothing happens. Many web authors only test their Java handiwork with MS/IE's hopelessly outdated and stunted Java virtual machine, rather than with Sun's official version, which Netscape 6/Mozilla uses. But for a more specific answer, post some URLs as examples. He's probably rather talking about JavaScript, not Java. (See void(0) etc.) My guess is that the pages are using improper, MS-proprietary javascript. File evangelism bugs - or at least give us some URLs so we can check them out for ourselves. :-)
Re: Is Mozilla red Communist?
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You know, there's a dead-simple solution to what you refer to as a terrible waste of time and most people refer to as solid advice falling on deaf ears: LOSE THE COMMIE GRAPHICS. Problem solved, permanently. What commie graphics? I'm only seeing a red star. It's near commie style, but so what? If there is anything Mozilla expresses politically, then it is open-sourceness (If you will, open-sourceness is close to communism though - if that poses a problem for you, that is.).
Re: Suggestion: Embedable web browser controll using gecko
You can see it at work in Winamp3, for example (see its use Mozilla für Winamp Minibrowser docs). Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone given thought to making a web browser controll that would work like the IE controll. Basicly, if the user has a compatible version of the browser installed, it would share the same rendering dlls else it would install its own. Same with user shareable data like cookies and stuff. There would be various callbacks and stuff to give the application developer controll over what happens (such as doing something special with an email link for example). Am I way outta the ballpark here or is this possible/been considered/been attempted or whatever?
Re: How do you sync PalmPilot with Netscape 6.2.1 mail?
Palm tech support is right. Netscape 6.x is a completely new product, which does not yet support Palm sync. A workaround is to use Netscape 4.7x, which is pretty old though. Or alternatively to wait some months until Netscape 6.x (or 7.x) does get the feature back. Mark Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Palm tech support says it can't be done (even though their mail sync software has a Netscape 4.5 or higher option0. Anybody know a workaround?
Re: Is Mozilla red Communist?
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You know, there's a dead-simple solution to what you refer to as a terrible waste of time and most people refer to as solid advice falling on deaf ears: LOSE THE COMMIE GRAPHICS. Problem solved, permanently. What commie graphics? I'm only seeing a red star. It's near commie style, but so what? Yeah, well, Stalin just murdered all my neighbors, my wife, my children, but so what? I'm only seeing these big posters of him. What, me worry? - You in the USSR ca. 1936. Even if I had lived back then, he wouldn't have been able to murder my family before I murdered myself. I wouldn't even think of living in that society. Neither would I think of living in a country where a farmer with a brain full of orange juice gets president of the nation. If there is anything Mozilla expresses politically, There isn't, that's what makes it all the more tragically comic. All the commie graphics do is turn away the few people who actually even know about Mozilla, mainly because the attempt to piss off the Man is so transparently sophomoric. Mozilla can't afford to turn away a single soul at ~0.75% market share and going nowhere. Lynx has a lot lower market share, and does survive. then it is open-sourceness (If you will, open-sourceness is close to communism though - Only in the way certain multibajillion-dollar companies define Open source. Oh... AOL conspiracy :-) Good morning JTK, Linux wouldn't have survived without SuSE, RedHat, IBM and others either! if that poses a problem for you, that is.). No. Purges pose a problem for me. Feigned ignorance of blatant Communist symbolism poses a problem for me. But I'm sure it'll play well in China, won't it Mr. Case? I guess Mr. Case would prefer the browser's name to be WOL (as in World OnLine).
Re: [HELP] Bug number of rollover problem
*wonders why Chris didn't tell the number* You probably refer to these: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105804 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85595 Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Vincent Nicolas wrote: animated gif with transpary are wrong from a rewrite of this lib. There's a bug like this targeted for 0.9.8
Re: What keeps changing my default browser to IE?
Are you using recent nightlies? It's a bug in Mozilla then. The default browser actually _is_ Mozilla, but it doesn't fully realize that. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119566 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What keeps changing my default browser to IE? I thought it was ICQ but why should that do it? I deactivated it and something is still changing it. What could it be? Every time I start up Moz I get that Mozilla is not currently set as your default browser... do you want it to be? I quit Moz then start it right up and it complained again.
Re: Automatic favicon.ico requests
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hmmm Well, I suppose you could always do what a few misguided souls did back in the earlier days of IE - sniff for the browser and just not serve up pages to it (Sorry, get a 'real' browser like Netscape 2.0 snicker at the naivete). Wouldn't solve the problem directly, but it wouldn't take many sites telling AOLers, Sorry, tell AOL to pull the /favicon.ico nonstandardness from Mozilla and I'll let you in for the problem to mysteriously disappear. Won't work. Mozilla is querying for a file, not reading HTML.
Re: Toolbar Customization Spec!
What is the corresponding bug #, if I may ask? yatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:a22291$106b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=65067 !!
Re: Toolbar Customization Spec!
michael lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag a2d6m7$102mlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a2d6m7$102mlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... after a quick query... http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49543#c77 One day I must learn how to use query.cgi. Took me an hour to find that.
Re: Automatic favicon.ico requests
grayrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You *DO* realize that hyatt turned this off by default, don't you? Only for now, because it's instable.
Re: mozilla 1.0 bug criteria
JTK wrote: Flo Ledermann wrote: c'mon, shut up. i didn't post that here to give you another opportunity for point- and idealess bitching. Or to hear the truth apparently. Truth's out there eh? Sounds like you wanna become Priest (sp?). so would you please hold it now. You heard Jonas: April 5, 2002. Think it'll be soup by then? I love to eat chicken soup. Won't have any problem with it being that. How does lizard soup taste, anyways?
Re: mozilla 1.0 bug criteria
JTK wrote: Sören Kuklau wrote: Truth's out there eh? Must be, sure ain't much in here. No, often not. Sounds like you wanna become Priest (sp?). Pope actually. Pope Jay Tee Kay the twenty-seventh? I love to eat chicken soup. Won't have any problem with it being that. How does lizard soup taste, anyways? Kinda under-done, regardless of how long you cook it. :-/ -- This post written in MozillaNews, to prove JTK that it indeed works - a lot better (especially FASTER!) than Outlook Express ever did.
Re: Push JPEG support?
Pigeon wrote: Dear all, Have a brief search on the net about the support of JPEG push on mozilla... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=push+jpeg+group:netscape.public.mozilla.*hl=enselm=948902660.559359%40unix.cboss.comrnum=1 It's been almost a year after that e-mail and I'm wondering if there's any plan for push JPEG support. Thanks. Pigeon. I've found a bug about it: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=producttype0-0-0=substringvalue0-0-0=JPEGfield0-0-1=componenttype0-0-1=substringvalue0-0-1=JPEGfield0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=JPEGfield0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=JPEGfield1-0-0=producttype1-0-0=substringvalue1-0-0=Pushfield1-0-1=componenttype1-0-1=substringvalue1-0-1=Pushfield1-0-2=short_desctype1-0-2=substringvalue1-0-2=Pushfield1-0-3=status_whiteboardtype1-0-3=substringvalue1-0-3=Push So there seems to be _some_ kind of support for it - but I've never really heard of JPEG Push. What is it? -- This post written in MozillaNews, to prove JTK that it indeed works - a lot better (especially FASTER!) than Outlook Express ever did.
Re: Lies, damn lies, and MozillaZine?
Neil M. wrote: dman84 wrote: Neil M. wrote: The only browser that can render it correctly, is a Mozilla or Mozilla-based browser. Even mozilla doesn't get it right. I usually get the page all squished to the left or the sidebar is missing. It's different every time. I have to keep hitting reload until it fixes itself. Build 2002011803. What they should have done was tested these changes offline and when they got them working, then upload them. try one, if you run Moz on windows, kill all the mozilla.org and mozilla registry keys, use a new build directory and a new profile also.. you maybe seeing buggy sideeffect problems. MozillaZine is the only site it's happening on and other people in the forums are having the same problem. Yup, this happens from time to time on MozillaZine. Definitly a Mozilla bug. Maybe the MozillaZine CSS should be simplified or so too though. -- This post written in MozillaNews, to prove JTK that it indeed works - a lot better (especially FASTER!) than Outlook Express ever did.
Re: Final Solution To The Communist Question
CaT wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 07:23:39PM -0600, JTK wrote: Flood fill the commie star with blue and white instead of red and gold. And I want this blatant expression of capitalism because? I like red and gold. :-) -- This post written in MozillaNews, to prove JTK that it indeed works - a lot better (especially FASTER!) than Outlook Express ever did.
Re: Final Solution To The Communist Question
Sören Kuklau wrote: CaT wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 07:23:39PM -0600, JTK wrote: Flood fill the commie star with blue and white instead of red and gold. And I want this blatant expression of capitalism because? I like red and gold. :-) I forgot: Is JTK Blue Capitalist? ;-) -- This post written in MozillaNews, to prove JTK that it indeed works - a lot better (especially FASTER!) than Outlook Express ever did.
