Re: CS>Cansema(R) Black Topical Salve - The Internationally Recognized Skin Cancer Treatment System - basal cell, squamous cell, melanoma, carcinoma, epithelioma
I have used Cansema on myself and my dog with great success. From what I understand, it reacts very strongly with malignant cell growth and does not affect normal cells. The extent of the wound will be directly related to the extent of the malignant cells. Unlike the “hit and miss” approach of surgery, where an analysis needs to be done to ensure all malignant cells were removed, cansema will affect every malignant cell at the site where applied. A larger wound may occur, but the body’s ability to heal after is amazing to see. Regards, Greg > On 29 Oct 2021, at 3:43 am, MaryAnn Helland wrote: > > > I have a small container of black salve -- bought many years ago, and never > used. I have a small spot on the side of my nose that I suspect is skin > cancer. I had a cancerous blemish removed from the other side of my nose a > couple of years ago -- and have had many, many sunburns on my nose over the > years. So. I'm a little afraid to use the cansema because I've read reports > of the huge open wound that it can cause. TJ -- did you experience that when > you used cansema on your skin cancers? > MA > > On Thursday, October 28, 2021, 11:55:49 AM CDT, Rick > wrote: > > > Thank you for sharing that T. J. > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 5:51 AM T. J. Garland wrote: > > http://www.altcancer.com/cansema.htm > > > Joe Biden is what happens when you order a president through the mail. Anon > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
Re: CS>the USELESSNESS of the and Lockdowns -- surely NOT a SCIENTIFIC study -- but YES ! . . ????
I love it. Tell Greta. COVID causes climate change. That will stump them. Regards, Greg > On 23 Oct 2021, at 4:09 pm, Phil Morrison wrote: > > > > Lockdowns are more than useless, they are counterproductive. > > Lockdowns cause reduced industrial activity, and thus there is less pollution > in the atmosphere > to block solar radiation. > > Less blocking of solar radiation means more heat transiting thru the > atmosphere and warming planet Earth. > > Lockdowns add to a serious uptick in the average global temperature.
Re: CS>Documentary about Royal Rife Microscope shatters Cancer - YouTube
I generally agree with these comments Max. I too have a rife system, although smaller tube. No one approach should be relied upon if chronically unwell. Use all the tools in the toolbox where appropriate. I would add that I believe a chronically ill person needs to detox and ensure all expulsion pathways are functioning. At the same time, the PH level usually needs to be raised. Sick bodies are usually too acidic. Regards, Greg > On 23 Oct 2021, at 8:32 am, Max wrote: > > > I experimented with Rife for decades. Modern rife is apparently not the > same as the original, although people have back engineered the originals. > It seemed pretty good for 'killing' the flu. But it was far from a panacea. > Also there are negative effects. Audio and ultrasonic modulated radio waves > are just the thing people are concerned about for health...right? Drug > prescriptions may be fraudulent for many reasons, but antibiotics and anti > virals are only a small part of the drugs in use. > > The key to health is a clean diet, clean air, avoidance of 1000 and 1 man > made toxins and exercise with a healthy psychological disposition. Rife is > not a substitute for that. > > For all the wonderful intrigue of my three foot long vacuum tube and purple > plasma, I think inexpensive hand held, non plasma units are nearly as > effective (very hard to be objective), and a viable addition to the tools we > use to fight for health, a fight we inevitably lose. If I had to chose > between herbs or electrotherapy, I think I would keep the herbs. > > People dont often appreciate that there is a close relationship of rife to > homeopathy, dowsing, more specifically radionics and all that mysterious > stuff. That door has barely been opened, scientifically. The door closes > with the passing of each great but solo researcher, like Ruth Drown, Royal > Rife, Hulda Clark etc > > > > regards > > Max > > > > On 10/22/2021 2:28 PM, Jean Baugh wrote: >> Thank you; that was a fascinating video about Royal Rife. I had no idea RR >> could cancel any virus or bacteria, merely with frequencies. This means all >> drug prescriptions are fraudulent and we are being scammed on a daily basis. >> >> >> Jean >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:01 AM T. J. Garland >> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMAl9kBk3k >>> >>> >>> Let’s go Brandon!
Re: CS> group advice help
I can probably help with this as I use both. 1. MMS and MSM are very different. Much has been written here recently about MMS. MSM is a chemical called methylsulfonylmethane. I get it in crystal form ( looks like white sugar). It is reported to be very helpful for a number of things including arthritis. 2. Not related 3. I would think either may help, although MMS likely to help with a wider range of health issues. 4. Depending on what country you are in, availability may be affected. MSM can be found fairly readily on line from health product resellers. MMS, maybe harder to find a supplier locally, but just need 28% sodium chlorite and an acid ( I use 4% hydrochloric acid). Equal number of drops of each into a dry glass, swirl for 30 seconds or so, then add up to a cup of water to dilute, then consume. I use less water to mix then quickly follow by drinking more water to wash it down. MSM, no need to make, just buy crystals, take one or more teaspoons a day either in water or dissolve in mouth, wash down with water. 5. Unactivated MMS stores well for long period. ( pantry conditions). MSM air tight container, also pantry conditions 6. Both very safe if taken as recommended. Both relatively inexpensive. http://mmstestimonials.co/arthritis may be of interest I trust this helps. Due to the similar acronyms, it can be confusing Regards, Greg > On 20 Oct 2021, at 3:51 am, Theresa Swift wrote: > > > I’ve read enough on SODIUM CHLORITE to be interesting in using it for > osteoarthritis and osteoporosis. > > I’m confused. Please answer some questions. > > 1. MMS AND MSM- same or different compounds? > > 2. Are Sodium chlorite and MSM related? > > 3. Which do I want to treat my problems? > > 4. How do I make the product I need? > > 5. How do I store it? > > 6. Which is safest? Cheapest? > > Thanks. > >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:53 PM Rick wrote: >> Thanks for continuing to share about CDS or MMS. Being new to it and only >> recently using it, other than my research, it is good to hear from others >> who have experienced it first hand. >> >> I had written that I combine the drops by shaking the glass side to side or >> something similar. Today I did it differently with 4 drops of each and >> experienced a more gaseous release. What I did was to strike the edge of the >> glass with the drops on a padded surface which seems to force them into one >> another. You can put any folded towel on a countertop as a padded surface or >> what I do is, since I spend time on my couch and make my doses there while >> sitting, then bend over at the waist and I strike the edge of the glass with >> the drops onto the carpet because the floor is right there. When doing so I >> really get a whiff of the gas more so than when the activator drops land on >> top of the Sodium Chlorite and moving the drops with the glass. >> >> And I read or heard the same thing about stomach acid. Watching the videos >> where they show you how to make the dose, they generally drink it right down >> and do not wait minutes to do so. They just drink it after the drops are in >> the glass combine, change color, and the clean water is added, usually, >> within a minute they've drunk it down. >> >> I wanted to reply to Pal Joey who waits 20 minutes to ensure it is >> activated. >> This method of force that I talk about above seems to cause the activation >> much faster even though the color amber has already appeared. As I said, I >> witnessed an increase in the volume of gas when I do that, so now I think >> this is easy, effective, and the absolute freshest method with immediate >> consumption. Not saying that making more at once and consuming it over time >> through the day is wrong...whatever works for you. I just like freshly made >> if at all possible for any food that I consume. >> >> Have a great week ahead! >> >> >>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:50 PM Greg Kentwell wrote: >>> Pal Joey. One thought is the unactivated sodium chlorite, when consumed >>> after about 30 seconds does get activated by the stomach acid anyway. So it >>> is still effective. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> > On 16 Oct 2021, at 9:55 am, pal joey wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > I ve done the methods described here re activated sodium clorite and >>> > citric or hydrochloric acid to make mms. I used that method for a long >>> > time, and finally gave up on it, because it was too harsh. The better >>> > method is the hhtp://An
Re: CS>Respiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE"
To be honest, I thought you were joking, so didn’t give it another thought. If you seriously believe this, then they successfully brainwashed you. I hope this is not the case. Regards, Greg > On 18 Oct 2021, at 9:48 am, Mary Scholer <1ot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Is there anyone else out there thinking like me? > > Mary > >> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4:17 PM Mary Scholer <1ot...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The media and the medical system must comply with the mass extermination of >> humans, the only answer to climate change. >> >> Mary >> >>> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:47 PM Rick wrote: >>> Cyndiann, >>> It seems like you are listening to actual liars and believing their lies >>> (Fauci, Gates, CDC, FDA, etc). Don't you know that only a few men >>> financially own ALL the mass media (news), big tech (social media like >>> Youtube)(apps like Instagram, WhatsApp, Twitter, etc.), all the products >>> you buy even...and those media sources ALL get the SAME information to pass >>> on through their platform, word for word even. If you are able to scan the >>> news across the country you can hear the script word for word. You can see >>> this too when a Truther puts together a collage video and shows this so >>> clearly. It sounds like that Breck shampoo commercial >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcskckuosxQ Different stations around the >>> country saying word for word what they've all been given to say. >>> >>> Sure, people like the self-called Health Ranger has his own website. And >>> allows others to post their content, even the inventor of mRNA and other >>> well known, well medically published individuals, including interviews with >>> more people like this whose knowledge and experience can not be said to be >>> untrue, false, or what the media likes to call "misinformation" while at >>> the same time saying the script they've been given which is full of >>> "misinformation". This is what you listen to which is just one side of the >>> story. The other side is the doctors who are independent who do not work >>> for a hospital or medical group, and who are treating and interacting with >>> these patients in the best interest of their health. >>> >>> And who else better than to tell of their health immediately following >>> these shots (1st) or after the (2nd) or Booster. But all those people don't >>> get aired by the national news because of mass censorship and it not towing >>> the official storyline. The same goes for the doctors treating the >>> vaccinated. >>> >>> The whistleblowers are coming out like no one's business even with threats >>> to their lives because they can no longer in good conscience continue >>> living the lies and practicing the mandates they've been given while people >>> die or their health deteriorates after the Covid shots. They simply can't >>> morally continue. If they are religious, they know they will be judged for >>> knowingly practicing the ill will of their bosses rather than practicing >>> actual medicine. What many in hospitals are doing now is pretending to >>> treat patients but not for their health but towards a negative outcome by >>> using toxic drugs that will not help, only harm people. >>> This is what Faucci did with AZT during the Aids Epidemic. He is doing it >>> now with Remdesivir and with Covid shots they are calling vaccines that do >>> not function like vaccines at all. >>> >>> Israel the most "Covid Vaccinated" country on earth right now has all >>> vaccinated people in hospitals and every time they do the shots more get >>> sick and go to hospital but they are told that it isn't from the vaccine >>> just like they tell people here. They say that because it is part of the >>> script for medical professionals working in the hospital not to blame the >>> shot with the sickness. >>> >>> I can continue for the next hour or so, but I will stop now because the >>> point is made. I just wish you could open your mind and use it to >>> understand why we are sharing all those links even to NIH and PubMed, the >>> Vaeers Adverse Vaccine Database, even occasionally the Yellow Card Database >>> in the U.K. because they back up what we've been sharing here. >>> >>> At first, I thought to continue to ignore you but I had a change of heart. >>> Ok, I'm ready for your attack and be
Re: CS>
Pal Joey. One thought is the unactivated sodium chlorite, when consumed after about 30 seconds does get activated by the stomach acid anyway. So it is still effective. Regards, Greg > On 16 Oct 2021, at 9:55 am, pal joey wrote: > > > I ve done the methods described here re activated sodium clorite and citric > or hydrochloric acid to make mms. I used that method for a long time, and > finally gave up on it, because it was too harsh. The better method is the > hhtp://Andreaskalcker.com, click on the "hacer como" video, you have to > select a language. He makes chlorine dioxide solution that is infused into > distilled water. Makes it mild enough to continue long term. For serious > acute or chronic problems, its 3 drops in 4 0z water, each hour, for 8 > hours, for 3 weeks. Or, you could put the drops in capsules, then drink > water. With this method you also get the by product left in the shot glass, > which can be used as a spray disinfectant. Not letting solution activate for > at least 20 minutes is not a good idea. Less time , it still has too much > original sodium clorite, which needs time to convert. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>MMS ANDREAS KALCKER
Great to hear of your success Rick. I agree with Da Darrin though, that you did not take what is commonly referred to as CDS. You took activated sodium chlorite with water added. (Referred to as MMS) This certainly has chlorine dioxide in the solution, but also carries the other by products of that chemical reaction. I might add that 1 activated drop is easy enough to take. The protocols suggest increasing the number of drops. this is when it becomes harder to keep taking. I have taken it up until fairly recently in this fashion . If you are not having any adverse effects, then this method should be ok in my opinion. However, I am aware of 2 methods to capture just the gas in water and make CDS. A little more fiddly and time consuming though. I don’t have a link atm, but search for making CDS, I’m fairly sure you can find a video for more info. I have not treated skin tags specifically, but have applied undiluted activated sodium chlorite directly to other skin conditions with success. Regards, Greg > On 12 Oct 2021, at 8:00 am, Rick wrote: > > I am here today to tell you all that CDS worked for me. After researching, > reading testimonies, watching videos that included the government/big pharma > lies about it being bleach (I don't even have training in chemistry and I > knew this was an obvious lie). > So I got my Sodium Chlorite and a 50% Citric Acid solution as an activator. > > I read what a couple here wrote and I reviewed the instructions from the > guide and another document and a few websites too. Then I did just one drop > of each in a clean dry glass, mixed, smelled the gas, (not horrible) and then > put 4oz of filtered ZeroWater in and drank it down (taste also not horrible). > I did this only once for two nights and my intensely painful, I'll call it > leaky bladder was well the following morning when I awoke! Now I had been > experiencing this daily for two months solid. As today's society has me > avoiding doctors and prescription drugs (which never worked for my mother in > her similar situation to mine) it was finding CDS and how long it has been > around that got me to researching it for myself. > > It has now been just a little less than a full week and I'm almost joyous > still because this was very embarrassing for me and I could not go out in > public because there was no warning and I had no control over when it would > happen. And every time, there was a burning pain associated with it. Working > was also prohibited unless I could work from home. > > I want to thank Greg for your testimony, and I forgot if Linda, Jenny, or > Elizabeth also mentioned it here. > > Was wondering if CDS along with DMSO might work as a topical on Skin Tags? I > remember in one of my first videos on it, I think that I heard a woman > testify to both skin tags and unexpected elimination of her own leaky > bladder. Greg, do you have any experience with this in your family? But in > the video, there was not talk of DMSO which helps facilitate the CDS to pass > through the skin. So in that way as a topical application similar to using CS > in a gel. > > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 5:39 PM V wrote: >> Thanks to everyone sharing info on CDS! >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 3:19 PM Greg Kentwell, wrote: >>> Yes, however, he does not recommend taking activated MMS. He strongly >>> advocates chlorine dioxide solution (CDS). This is the gas produced when >>> MMS ( sodium chlorite) is activated with an acid ( ideally 4% hydrochloride >>> acid) and captured in water. There are videos available on methods to >>> produce this. >>> Dr Andreas Kalcker has researched this very thoroughly. >>> theuniversalantidote.com is a great documentary to learn more about The >>> power of chlorine dioxide. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>>> On 24 Sep 2021, at 2:59 am, pal joey wrote: >>>> >>>> Just passing it on. Andreas Kalcker, was a staunch skeptic of mms, but >>>> now a big fan, and serious researcher. https://andreaskalcker.com/en/
Re: CS>Horse Drug Only?
3000 ppm CDS should be diluted back to between 30-100ppm. Chlorine dioxide is the gas produced as a result of activating sodium chlorite (MMS)with an acid. Regards, Greg > On 8 Oct 2021, at 12:55 am, Assad wrote: > > Hello Dave, > > How do you take the chlorine dioxide as 3000 ppm solution or mix CD and > activator? > > Assad > > On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, Da Darrin wrote and made these points > on the subject of "CS>Horse Drug Only?": > > DD> Jean, you are covered for most anything that comes along with those two. > DD> I held Lyme at bay for 10 years with CS and finally cured it with CDS > DD> ( chlorine Dioxide). > DD> The limitation of CS is it has to make physical contact with the > DD> pathogen while CDS permeates your entire body as it is in a gaseous > DD> form. > DD> Dave > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Horse Drug Only?
Hi Rick, I’m not Jean, but suggest you look for the work Dr. Andreas Kalcker has put out about this. My family has for 7 years been using MMS ( sodium chlorite) activated with hydrochloride acid at the very first sign of a cold or flu. ( if in doubt, we take it anyway). At worst some mild symptoms may occur, but the body is over it very quickly. Chlorine dioxide solution is the gas produced when the 2 chemicals above are mixed, dissolved in water. Much easier to take. Dr Kalcker also advocates that CD is good to help the body be rid of toxins and raising the PH in what may be a too acidic state. Considered by many that this in fact is the root cause of all chronic disease. Regards, Greg > On 7 Oct 2021, at 3:32 am, Rick wrote: > > > > Jean, > Yes, a lot of people including doctors are scared, but they shouldn't > continue to hurt us like many are in following Fauci. That is not the right > side of history in my mind. I'm using colloidal silver a few days a week. > Re: Chlorine Dioxide > Just discovered it for myself and can't wait for my supply to arrive! When > did you start to make use of it and in what way or for what (if you don't > mind sharing)? > > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:47 PM Jean Baugh wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The problem is you have to swim a 'moat' to get to a doctor. Ivermectin >> should be OTC. The next thing will be, unknown people who sell all known >> drugs without a prescription, will be offering Ivermectin. >> >> I'm very happy with my colloidal silver and sometimes used, chlorine dioxide. >> >> Jean >> >>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:48 AM Rick wrote: >>> >>> If you or your patients are having trouble getting ivermectin prescriptions >>> filled for COVID 19 prevention or treatment, see this excellent resource >>> from the Front Line COVID 19 Critical Care Alliance. >>> >>> https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Overcoming-Pharmacy-Barriers.pdf
Re: CS>Horse Drug Only?
I also keep stocked up with H2O2 and DSMO. Over the years this set has tackled everything my family has encountered to date. Ordinarily, never go to a doctor or pharmacy. However, I do give credit to those in the medical profession that can put broken bodies back together again. Regards, Greg > On 7 Oct 2021, at 3:17 am, Jean Baugh wrote: > > > Hi, > > The problem is you have to swim a 'moat' to get to a doctor. Ivermectin > should be OTC. The next thing will be, unknown people who sell all known > drugs without a prescription, will be offering Ivermectin. > > I'm very happy with my colloidal silver and sometimes used, chlorine dioxide. > > Jean > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:48 AM Rick wrote: >> >> If you or your patients are having trouble getting ivermectin prescriptions >> filled for COVID 19 prevention or treatment, see this excellent resource >> from the Front Line COVID 19 Critical Care Alliance. >> >> https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Overcoming-Pharmacy-Barriers.pdf
Re: CS>Referral for doing MMS iV
No Jenny, can’t help. However, I have suggested previously Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS) is easier to take and for most, avoids stomach upset issues. The problems may also be managed if a smaller dose is started with initially. Regards, Greg > On 2 Oct 2021, at 5:16 am, jenny goodhealth > wrote: > > > Look for medical professionals to do MMS IV or MMS injection in Northern > California Bay Area: Palo Alto, Mountain View, Sunnyvale, Santa Clara, > Mikpitas, San Jose or any neighboring cities in the U.S. as oral MMS even > with HCL causes stomach problems & severe skin issues. Any referrals? Thx
Re: CS>MMS ANDREAS KALCKER
Yes, however, he does not recommend taking activated MMS. He strongly advocates chlorine dioxide solution (CDS). This is the gas produced when MMS ( sodium chlorite) is activated with an acid ( ideally 4% hydrochloride acid) and captured in water. There are videos available on methods to produce this. Dr Andreas Kalcker has researched this very thoroughly. theuniversalantidote.com is a great documentary to learn more about The power of chlorine dioxide. Regards, Greg > On 24 Sep 2021, at 2:59 am, pal joey wrote: > > > Just passing it on. Andreas Kalcker, was a staunch skeptic of mms, but now a > big fan, and serious researcher. https://andreaskalcker.com/en/
Re: CS>
Jenny, MMS activated with citric acid has caused many to have upset stomach issues. Changing to 4% hydrochloride acid may make a big difference. However, I would explore chlorine dioxide solution ( CDS ). It has all the benefits of MMS (activated), but much easier to take. As for IV, I would never consider MMS, it should only be done using very pure CDS only from what I understand. I would be seeking somebody who you can trust that has expertise with this. Regards, Greg > On 23 Sep 2021, at 6:40 pm, jenny goodhealth > wrote: > > > Drinking Mms upset the stomach which in turn causes seb dermatitis- an > itching & bleeding, painful condition caused by fungus in ears, skull & face. > Doing Mms transdermally doesn’t cause this problem as it bypass the > stomach. Want to do MMS IV to avoid fungus issues but don’t know how? Any > suggestions? Thx > > Jen
Re: CS>CS and Cancer?
I think that is very good advice Max. Regards, Greg > On 23 Sep 2021, at 2:21 pm, Max wrote: > > Robert Becker did the seminal experiments on silver for regeneration and > cancer. As I recall, voltage is also involved. But heres the thing; cancer > is probably not caused by a lack of silver. To correct cancer, a > comprehensive approach may be required. Ive tried to treat cancer with > silver, electrotherapy, herbs of all kinds, vitamins and more. I wasnt > successful, except for the use of black salve, and even that backfired with > more aggressive cancer return. Im not saying you wont be successful using > silver, Im saying if anybody is fighting cancer, you should really work at it > from all angles, starting with diet and elimination of toxins. > > Best of luck > > Max > >> On 9/22/2021 5:24 PM, Williams wrote: >> I heard (from a reliable source) drinking a couple of quarts of CS per day >> kills cancer cells. >> didn't get all the info. This is a miracle breakthrough, or a cruel hoax. >> Anyone had any experience with CS and Cancer? >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> >> Unsubscribe: >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >>
Re: CS>CS, as inhalant, PEMF, RIFE and HHO with Hydrogen for Health & MMS
MMS is amazing! Been using it for 7 years now. Initially, my family was skeptical, however, MMS is now their “ go to” also whenever they sense anything within not feeling quite right. Also fantastic topically for any skin issues or growths. Been using CS longer though as required, especially nebulising. They are both powerful and great to have available Regards, Greg > On 23 Sep 2021, at 12:21 pm, Douglas Haack wrote: > > > Thank you Scott Adams -- I have no immediate need for your archive -- to be > added to my archive in general . . . > > Have active interests in CS as inhalant, PEMF, RIFE and HHO with Hydrogen for > Health. > > Been contributing to the SilverList of 20 plus years -- Make my own CS > equipment, upto 6 Annodes and 6 Cathdes (design ex "Ole Bob" Berger RIP) . . > . cheap to make plus power supply > > . . . with a mechanical 3 -10 volt stirrer -- not hi-tech, does the job 5 > litres in 120 minutes -- 8-10 ppm -- probably not small nano certainly not > ionic -- OK for skin ailments etc -- take internally on empty stomach for any > kidney twinges . . . > > My newest is MMS -- ahve watched for 15 years and seen how demonised it's > become, see "MMS in Wikipedia". Came across a one page positive reference in > "Voltage is Healing" Jerry Tennant Phd, Opthomologist extraodiniare -- just > started to use MMS on a daily basis . . . > > Can't afford Jerry T's Electro/accupuncture gadget -- coming to grips with > Denas > > Be well . . . . > > > > On Thursday, 23 September 2021, 10:05:37 am AEST, Scott Adams > wrote: > > > I’ve collected a lot of information at www.lyme-resource.com you can download > and look through. > > > Scott Adams > > > > From: m...@silverlist.groups.io On Behalf Of > jenny goodhealth via groups.io > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:13 PM > To: SilverList > Subject: [SilverList] Chronic Lyme & mycoplasma evidence > > > > A friend of mine doubts the existence of chronic Lyme & people using it to > scam. > > He quotes the content of https://lymescience.org/ > > > > Lymescience.org is not independent non-profit as it says. > > > > Who backs them? Please suggest any hard evidence (websites, data, etc) to > convince my friend as I need their help. Also, any hard evidence to prove > both Lyme & mycoplasma are bio-engineered & the politics behind them. > > > > Pls advise. Thx. > > > > Jen > > _._,_._,_ > Groups.io Links: > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#247) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic > | New Topic > > > The archives of this forum are available to the general public. > Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [douglasha...@yahoo.com] > _._,_._,_
Re: CS>mRNA Vaccines: The Silent Weapon - LewRockwell
No, but chlorine dioxide ( mms ) is what I would use if it were me. Regards, Greg > On 30 Aug 2021, at 6:29 am, Richard Atkinson wrote: > > Greetings , anyone have any experience with treating Chronic fatigue syndrome > with Colloidal Silver ? > many thanks > Richard Atkinson > atomicsil...@gmail.com > The Chaos Oasis > Belize > > facebook > instagram > >> On Aug 29, 2021, at 9:52 AM, T. J. Garland wrote: >> >> >> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/no_author/mrna-vaccines-the-silent-weapon/ >> >> >> Millions of Biden voters are rolling over in their graves. Anon >
Re: CS>
I agree and would go as far as to say that this is highly likely. Some weeks ago there was a msm article about a group of people the received saline shots “in error”. They wanted those people to come back and get the correct shot. How could this possibly happen if they did not have the saline shots lined up ready to administer. It was almost like they were telling us of this possibility. ( saline instead of poison). Regards, Greg > On 29 Aug 2021, at 5:09 am, pal joey wrote: > > > Not saying I know this is happening, but there is some talk of some people > get a saline shot instead of the real vaccine. And the motive is a guess, but > theories include creating a segment of the group that won't have problems, or > become magnetized because they got saline. They would then be pro "vaccine", > (look, nothing happened to me). Yes, it is far out speculation, I agree, > but this entire event is like something out of a sci fi horror movie, so > anything is possible. If I got the "vaccine", I would look into the d- dimer > blood test for blood clots, and then look into non toxic treatments to > alleviate them as well as any possible antidotes, until this is all sorted > out. If the blood tests showed all clear, I'd still plan to get more later, > and continue to look at antidotes. Then, if all was still clear, I'd consider > whether I got the saline. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>cs for covid
When I nebulise EIS, I add 10% DSMO to help penetrate mucus and any other biofilms I have found this very effective. Regards, Greg > On 4 Aug 2021, at 11:35 pm, Tony Moody wrote: > > > > > On 2021/08/04 12:36, Neville Munn wrote: >> Tony, you being a member of the Silver fraternity, I would have one >> question...Why didn't you use EIS and inhaled it, as I have been suggesting? >> Protocols or anicdotes will never be known about if people don't use/try it? >> >> It seems you swallowed a plethora of stuff but not EIS? Don't you trust it? >> If you had done that, then you would have been able to report on what EIS >> can do, or CAN'T do? >> >> Just a question. >> >> N. >> >> > Neville, > > > > Oh, I love CS/EIS and always have some fresh on the shelf but I was not drawn > to it much. Maybe because I was so full of snot and the CS doesn't have much > effect on mucous and oil/fat tissues. > > Also I do not have a nebuliser. In retrospect I could have made an effort > and misted and breathed with h202 +cs. I really did not have much brain at > the time. > > > > OK, Tony > > > > PS I'm going to copy this over to the new list as well.T > >
Re: CS>PCR Test Kaput
It seems fairly clear to me to be the work of of troll. It has been said by a number, “ don’t feed the troll”. Best advice ever! The people on this list should really totally disregard or block. Certainly don’t engage Regards, Greg > On 27 Jul 2021, at 4:39 am, Linda Ellis wrote: > > I've been following this whole thread, and have to wonder why Cyndiann > Phillips is even on this list. The nature of CS is open-minded thinking > outside the box, and that clearly isn't where her head is at. > > From: "Diane Mackey" > Date: Mon, Jul 26, 2021 2:05 pm > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>PCR Test Kaput > So, even when the truth slaps you in the face, you still insist they lie. > You are really some kind of stupid. > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 2:55 PM Cyndiann Phillips < cyndi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Natural News never tells the truth which is why Covid is still here. Keep it > up, we will have a new variant that will just kill us all, even the > vaccinated. > > Idiots > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 2:52 PM Diane Mackey < diane.mac...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here is the official statement from the CDC. Fortunately, Natural News does > it research, but Cydieann just spews her garbage opinion.. > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 7:44 AM Cyndiann Phillips < cyndi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Natural News lies all the time. Why would you believe anything on that > website? > > I don't understand everyone's fascination with websites that intentionally > don't tell the truth. Are you willing to die for it? Thanks to the > unvaccinated we now have a stronger version of Covid than ever before. There > goes our summer! The next variant could be much worse. > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:49 AM Phil Morrison < philmorrison...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-25-cdc-withdraws-fraudulent-pcr-testing-protocol-used-to-falsify-covid-positives.html
Re: CS>Nebulising EIS
Thanks James, I understand. However, I understood that it was more about penetrating the biofilms that have built up in the lungs that may contain bacteria that is the cause of the secondary infections associated with an URTI. Regards, Greg > On 12 Jan 2021, at 7:23 am, James Osbourne Holmes > wrote: > > > No need to hold breath; gas exchange occurs in 0.025 seconds. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a/k/a Red Pill Media > American State National > http://theamericanstatesassembly.net > http://annavonreitz.com > http://signinamerica.com > > This private email and any attachment(s) is covered by the Electronic > Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 25-10-2521 and is for the sole use of the > intended recipient and contains privileged and/or confidential information. > No monitoring of my email or other means of surveillance, electronic and > otherwise, is permitted and I reserve all my rights, without recourse and > without prejudice, nunc pro tunc. I do not consent to anyone tampering with, > altering or delaying any incoming or outgoing communication. > > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 7:30 PM Greg Kentwell wrote: >> Hello Tony, >> >> I have been a long term lurker but finally thought I could provide some >> useful information. >> Myself, and members of my family nebulise EIS as required with great >> success. >> I purchased a realtively inexpensive nebuliser a number of years ago. >> I add 10% DMSO to the EIS. This provides fairly instant symptomatic relief >> from throat and lung infections and prevents a secondary bacterial infection >> from taking hold longer term. When required, we nebulise every few hours >> with 10 or so very deep breaths and try to hold each breath as long as >> possible. >> >> I hop this helps >> >> Regards, >> >> Greg >> >> >> > On 5 Jan 2021, at 8:37 pm, Tony Moody wrote: >> > >> > On 5 Jan 2021 at 1:27, Neville Munn wrote in part about : >> > Subject : Re: CS>Carol Tierney | Facebook >> > >> > So, if 'a' flu attacks the lungs, them what better way is there to stop or >> > treat it than by nebulising >> > EIS, (I will never term it CS), so I'd like to see some 'data', some >> > 'studies' or some 'stats' on this >> > protocol, but I will never see any of those, except from reading >> > information from a bygone era >> > when we had "real" researchers who had humanity in mind. >> > >> > >> > For those who think this List is getting a bit off the track, I have >> > mentioned EIS . >> > >> > Neville, >> > I am with you. >> > >> > How do you nebulise EIS? >> > I've tried various ways, basically using a spray bottle and breathing in >> > as I spray. Have never got >> > any deep satisfaction from that. >> > >> > Heh, curiously enough I think I do get some silver in by spraying my face >> > mask. >> > >> > OK, >> > Tony >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >> > >> > Unsubscribe: >> > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> >> > Archives: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html >> > >> > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> >>
Re: CS>Nebulising EIS
Hello Tony, I have been a long term lurker but finally thought I could provide some useful information. Myself, and members of my family nebulise EIS as required with great success. I purchased a realtively inexpensive nebuliser a number of years ago. I add 10% DMSO to the EIS. This provides fairly instant symptomatic relief from throat and lung infections and prevents a secondary bacterial infection from taking hold longer term. When required, we nebulise every few hours with 10 or so very deep breaths and try to hold each breath as long as possible. I hop this helps Regards, Greg > On 5 Jan 2021, at 8:37 pm, Tony Moody wrote: > > On 5 Jan 2021 at 1:27, Neville Munn wrote in part about : > Subject : Re: CS>Carol Tierney | Facebook > > So, if 'a' flu attacks the lungs, them what better way is there to stop or > treat it than by nebulising > EIS, (I will never term it CS), so I'd like to see some 'data', some > 'studies' or some 'stats' on this > protocol, but I will never see any of those, except from reading information > from a bygone era > when we had "real" researchers who had humanity in mind. > > > For those who think this List is getting a bit off the track, I have > mentioned EIS . > > Neville, > I am with you. > > How do you nebulise EIS? > I've tried various ways, basically using a spray bottle and breathing in as > I spray. Have never got > any deep satisfaction from that. > > Heh, curiously enough I think I do get some silver in by spraying my face > mask. > > OK, > Tony > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
CSDebt Solution - Rolling Jubilee
Here is an interesting approach to settle much of the worlds debt. Governments could do this. Probably won't because of their owners. So its up to the people. From what I see it amounts to about 5 cents on the dollar. I can only imagine the boost this would give to the economy ... people spending again. The necessary economic structural changes can come later. People need relief NOW ! http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/177_218/telethon-will-raise-funds-to-buy-then-cancel-consumer-debt-1054279-1.html Strike Debt, a movement that emerged from the Occupy Wall Street movement, announced plans Friday to stage a variety show and telethon to raise money to buy and cancel consumer debt. The event, which is slated for Nov. 15, will benefit The Rolling Jubilee, a project that organizers say can raise awareness of what the group describes as predatory debt practices, debt resistance and mutual aid. We buy debt for pennies on the dollar, but instead of collecting it, we abolish it, Strike Debt says on its website http://rollingjubilee.org/. We cannot buy specific individuals' debt -- instead, we help liberate debtors at random through a campaign of mutual support, good will, and collective refusal. Huffington Post: excerpt: Can it really work? So far there doesn't seem to be much standing in the way, except the generosity of donors who will back the idea. I don't see a legal problem with somebody buying debt and canceling it. If it's out there, it can be purchased, said Alan White, a law professor with expertise in consumer bankruptcy at City University of New York law school. I do think it's a completely original idea. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/rolling-jubilee-occupy-wall-street_n_2117792.html?utm_hp_ref=occupy-wall-street Forbes: This is, to my mind at least, the first sensible idea that I've heard of coming out of the Occupy movement at all: and yes, obviously, that says more about my prejudices than it does anything else. - Tim Worstall, Contributor http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/11/10/links-10-nov-finally-an-occupy-wall-street-idea-we-can-all-get-behind-the-rolling-jubilee/ See also http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/10/05/could-national-debt-forgiveness-help-kickstart-the-american-economy/ Rosanne Barr http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/category/politics-government/debt-jubilee/ Google link: https://www.google.ca/search?q=Debt+Jubileeie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a
Re: CSPsoriasis
Hello, A couple of days ago I was looking for Psoriasis treatments for a neighbor. Several times different people said they found relief by applying Milk of Magnesia to the affected areas and had improvement within days. Check it out. I hope it helps. Greg On 8/16/2012 10:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSPsoriasis
I forgot to mention that it is the Magnesium Hydroxide in Milk of Magnesia that was said to help . Greg On 8/16/2012 10:48 AM, Paul Steel wrote: Hey all Anyone know of a cure or something that helps a lot for psoriasis? Thanks a lot!!! Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSNeed original of March 1978 article on CS; can anyone help?
Hi Nenah, I found a copy on this webpage http://www.cs.kestar.com.au/general.htm Downloadable as a pdf file in the yellow box near the bottom http://www.cs.kestar.com.au/scidi78.pdf I hope this helps. Greg - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: CSNeed original of March 1978 article on CS; can anyone help? Hi Everyone. The statement that CS kills 650 types of pathogens apparently originated in a March 1978 Science Digest article called Our Mightiest Germ Fighter. I have seen this all over the Internet. What I haven't seen, however, is a scan of the original article. I don't feel comfortable quoting it unless I can see the original. Does anyone have a copy they can share with me-or tell me where I can find it? This is really important. Thanks in advance. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com
CSherx lyme silver
Dan, In addition, though I started right up with no ramping when I started taking large quantities daily, I never experienced a herx reaction. Never had one during those high dose years, and never have had one since, even though once in a while I will still drink a pint or a quart, if there is reason to do so. Hmm. Lyme disease is on my list of possibles for some of my health conditions. I wonder if never herxing could be a reason to rule out Lyme or its co-infections? sol Hi Sol - Is it possible your detox pathways are functioning so well that you're not experiencing a herx? Just a thought.
CSsilver for babesia and lyme
_ Steve, I looked through everything you gave me, and I have a ton of follow-up questions. Here goes: - A couple of questions - how many drops of the 3% peroxide do I use? I think my container is holding approximately 16 ounces. Would that be about 2 drops? - Should I use regular hydragen peroxide from the drug store? - Once the peroxide goes in, is there a time frame for using it up? For example, does it need to be ingested within 24 hours before losing it's potency? - Why do you suggest that I should I wait two days after the silver is made to add peroxide? - Why is 1 mg a day of silver important to stay below? - 4 ounces of regular gatorade has about 28 grams of sugar. I need to avoid sugar for many reasons. Is there some sugar free substitue I can use like propel? Or is this risky? - You said some people disagree with the gatorade approach. Can you share why that is? Steve, thanks so much for your help! _
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #195
STEVE - YOUR MESSAGE WAS CUT OFF IN THE EMAIL - COULD YOU PLEASE REPOST YOUR RESPONSE. Thanks! Also, can you please help me translate - if I'm only making about 16 ounces at a time, how much peroxide is that? Silver does need to be made in a glass bottle, right? I don't have a gallon glass bottle. Greg, I use 1 tsp of 3 % hydrogen peroxide from the store to a gallon of CS. The hydrogen peroxide should list only purified water as the inactive ingredients and no stabizers. It has been determined that waiting 1 to 2 days before adding the From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun Feb 14 10:17:09 2010 Subject: CSsilver for babesia and lyme _ Steve, I looked through everything you gave me, and I have a ton of follow-up questions. Here goes: - A couple of questions - how many drops of the 3% peroxide do I use? I think my container is holding approximately 16 ounces. Would that be about 2 drops? - Should I use regular hydragen peroxide from the drug store? - Once the peroxide goes in, is there a time frame for using it up? For example, does it need to be ingested within 24 hours before losing it's potency? - Why do you suggest that I should I wait two days after the silver is made to add peroxide? - Why is 1 mg a day of silver important to stay below? - 4 ounces of regular gatorade has about 28 grams of sugar. I need to avoid sugar for many reasons. Is there some sugar free substitue I can use like propel? Or is this risky? - You said some people disagree with the gatorade approach. Can you share why that is? Steve, thanks so much for your help! _
CSsilver for babesia and lyme
___ Hi Steve, Thanks for all the explanation. I have citric acid for MMS use, but it was way too hard on my gut. I could try it with silver though, since I don't know if it was the citric acid or the MMS that was burning my gut. Can you tell me how many drops of citric acid to use in the silver? One other question - I use ozone water, and do you see any conflict with that and silver? Should I be sure to take them far apart? or does it not matter. Thanks!!! ___
CSsilver for babesia and lyme
__ Wow Steve - Thanks so much for taking the time to explain that! I'm going to print that off and study it, as well as the info on the links you gave me. Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:29:55 -0800 From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #188 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Greg, A good place to start is by determining how much silver ACS recommends using. That is much more important than the actual ppm of the solution. Ppm is mostly useful for determining how much silver one is taking. The recommended dosage for ACS 200 is: * An initial dose of 1 to 2 ounces. One ounce of ACS 200 contains 5.9 mg of silver. Then you take one of the following Daily doses: * 5 sprays, 2 -3 times daily for a normal dosage. At three times a day that would equal 0.48 mg of silver * 10 sprays, 4 times daily for a therapeutic dosage. That would equal 1.28 mg of silver. ASAP silver uses H2O2 combined with their CS (EIS). To make CS equivalent to the ASAP follow Marshall's directions at the link below. You use the CS you make with your Silvergen but wait two days after making the CS before adding the 3% H2O2. ASAP uses more H2O2 but I don't know that that will make a difference. It might, by increasing the silver oxide content, which appears to provide the oomph of their product (per their patent). Marshall's paper: http://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm How does H2O2 affect EIS? When H2O2 is added to EIS (one or two drops per glass of EIS), it will be noted that there is an immediate clearing effect. The Tyndall (what you see if you shine a laser pointer though the liquid) will become very faint as well. If the ppm of the EIS is sufficiently high (25 to 30 ppm) a white cloudy precipitate may form as well. There are a number of reactions that occur. H2O2 is normally thought of as an oxidizer, but it can act as a reducer as well. Also silver is considered a catalyst for H2O2, but in actuality gets directly involved in the reactions. The H2O2 reacts with the silver particles, producing ionic silver, a combination of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. This makes the large particles disappear, reducing the tyndall. However H2O2 also reacts with the silver oxide and silver hydroxide producing a 2 atom colloid of silver plus oxygen (and water in the case of silver hydroxide). Over time this 2 atom colloidal particle can end up being converted back to silver oxide and silver hydroxide, and so forth. The final result is a mixture of ionic silver (hydroxide and oxide) and very small colloidal particles. Thus if you add H2O2 to freshly made EIS, you can sometimes see the oxygen bubble off, and the tyndall may change significantly. But more importantly, the particulate portion of the EIS will go from being medium or large particles to many more very small particles, and the particle content will increase from a typical 5-15% to around 30-50%. If you have a strong tyndall from large particles, it will decrease, and if you have a weak or no tyndall it will increase with the formation of the 2 atom particles. This enhances absorption, as well as effectiveness. Note that it is recommended to let the EIS sit for 5 or more minutes if you do add H2O2 to it to let it stabilize. The amounts equivalent to the ACS doses, for your 12 ppm CS are: For 5.9 mg of silver take 16.9 ounces of 12 ppm CS. For 0.40 mg of silver take 1.1 ounces of 12 ppm CS For 1.28 mg of silver take 3.5 ounces of 12 ppm CS I think that those amounts will be equal to or better than what you will get with ACS 200 or Mesosilver. However, personally I would reduce the initial and therapeutic dosages to something lower. I would cut both in half. For the initial dose, I would take 4 oz of CS with H2O2 in the morning followed at least 3 hours later by 4 oz of CS in 8 oz of Gatorade. I would also cut the therapeutic dosage in half and split it between CS/H2O2 and CS/Gatorade. Again taken at different times. The CS/Gatorade combination will provide some silver citrate to your daily dose. Personally, I think that is a beneficial addition. Take a look at the kill times ACS 200 publishes: http://www.resultsrna.com/research/acs_200_comparing_kill_kinetics_of_the_leading_antimicrobials.php Now look at kill times for 30 ppm silver citrate: http://www.purebio.com/products/sdc_hard_surface The kill times of the 30 ppm silver citrate are equal to those of 200 ppm ACS 200. I would expect the use of Gatorade will give you equal to or better performance while reducing the total amount of silver consumed daily. It also keeps average silver consumed to less than 1 mg per day, something I recommend. The last part with Gatorade is just my personal opinion. Others may not agree. - Steve N
CSsilver for lyme and babesia
Thanks everyone for addressing my question on the difference between brands and home made silver! Looks like I should stick with my home made. One question: Steve N. said the following I see nothing special about ACS. The ACS kill test data shows a 3 min. kill time for ACS vs 60 minutes for Sovereign Silver. But ACS is 200 ppm vs Sovereign Silver's 10 ppm. Just based on ppm alone I would expect ACS to be 20 times faster and sure enough that is what the results show, If ACS is diluted to 10 ppm I would expect it would take 60 minutes too. And the 5 hours for Mesosilver is as expected too. It is known that it takes time for silver particles to release enough ions to kill pathogens and sure enough the data shows it. Nothing new in the test data. EIS would be comparable to ACS if both were at the same ppm. Here's my question: My Silvergen machine is putting out about 12 ppm. Would flooding my body with my silver solution be just as good as taking small quantities of the ACS or and Mesosilver? Any idea how much I would need to take of the silvergen solution to have it be on the same level of the other two? Also - I'm really sorry - I'm super spacey and don't remember if someone explained this to me: Is EIS the same thing I make with my silvergen? Or do I have to do something to my silvergen solution to make it into EIS? I remember someone saying something about adding peroxide. If so, could you share any directions? Thanks Ode Cayote: You said Could be Tetrasilver Tetroxide by another name. Are those two brands brownish? What is tetrasilver tetroxide, and is that a good thing or a bad thing?
CSsilver for babesia and lyme
What you make with your Silvergen is EIS Gregg. This stands for electrically isolated silver - commonly known as colloidal silver. I have a Silver Puppy and if you set it on manual you can make the silver a higher ppm. I expect you can with the SilverGen too. I don't know what the tetroxide is but it sounds not good. dee Hi Dee, actually the silvergen has an automatic shut off device that I don't believe you can bypass. I could probably get my silver up slightly higher though, just by turning the knob all the way. I think the most I've gotten is like 15 ppm. Still not as strong as those brands, but I guess I can drink way more of it. By the way, does anyone know if silver works on babesia, which is a form of malaria and it's a protazoan. Thanks
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #181
I can't understand this - I have seen several answers to your question Greg! Are you getting the emails through? dee Hi Dee, Thanks for checking. I guess I was just hoping to have the specific brands addressed, but then I saw a person or two say that the brands don't matter. I do find that surprising since there's some comparison chart on line that makes the mesosilver look like a star compared to all others. However I don't understand the variables they're comparing, so I don't really know if it means anything or not. I'd love to know what you all think. You can see that chart here: http://www.purestcolloids.com/psa-table.php I'm going to try flooding my body with my silvergen silver though, to see if it helps. Thanks!
CSSilver or lyme babesia
Hey Dave, I missed your post. Wow that was gutsy. I just get concerned about taking so much silver, even if it's just in a short period - I don't want to be blue. I've used so much silver over the years that I'm concerned that I already have it in my body. Yet that's a really tempting protocol, and I think I'm gonna try it. How did you know you had lyme? Were you tested positive? Were you ever re-tested? Also, what kind of machine were you using? Thanks!! Greg __ Hi N., Thanks for jumping in! I have a Silvergen machine. Is that the type of silver you're talking about using? Looks like you and Dave are talking about similar strategies of saturating the body. I'm brewing a batch now, and I'm going to give it a go. I'm in so much pain I'm hoping to push back some of that joint inflammation at the very least, even if it's not a total cure. Greg ___ Hi Marshall, From what I've heard, silver alone doesn't usually work, though Dave's post is encouraging. I've heard that the Beck protocol also isn't enough. I do have a rife-type machine, and as someone mentioned a few posts ago, there are some folks using a combo of silver, rife and salt/c. I can do the silver, vitamin C and rife, but can't do the salt until I get my blood pressure down. Thanks for your support. Greg
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #177
__ Hi all, I still haven't gotten an answer to my original question - Please anyone - Do you have any opinions on the brands for sale that I asked about? ACS, Mesosilver, Sovereign Silver Are they better than using my silvergen silver? Are they worth purchasing? Or are you all not familiar with these? I'd really appreciate an answer if anyone has one, or if not, where can I look or ask...??? Thanks!! Greg __
CSsilver for lyme
There is no best! They all do the same thing. What ever you choose will kill Lyme, but probably the home made stuff will do it quicker. The way you do it is the important factor. I had Lyme for 42 years and killed it in three days with home made CS. The protocol I used was to take four oz every waking twenty minutes to saturate my system with silver until I woke up in the middle of the night feeling great for the first time in years. I then cut back to four oz a day and kept taking it for years afterword. I never had a relapse but After eight years I started greying. If you do it for a couple years to rid yourself of the hidden spirochaetes, then after that use it when you feel something coming on you shouldn't have a problem. Dave ___ Hey Dave, I missed your post. Wow that was gutsy. I just get concerned about taking so much silver, even if it's just in a short period - I don't want to be blue. I've used so much silver over the years that I'm concerned that I already have it in my body. Yet that's a really tempting protocol. How did you know you had lyme? Were you tested positive? When you say you were greying, what do you mean? Also, what kind of machine were you using? Thanks!! Greg __
CSSilver for lyme babesia
Thanks Tom, The article was interesting and I think it's possible it could help, even if it's not a complete cure. That brings me back to my original question. What's the best and most effective form of silver for me? Should I use my silvergen, or ACS, Mesosilver, Sovereign Silver Thanks! Hello Greg, You may find this article informative... http://www.hempusa.org/ABL/Human_Studies/Lymes%27s%20Testimonial.pdf Tom - Original Message - From: Greg Ball To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: CSRE: silver help with lymes type? Dick - what type of silver were you using - what generator? I've always heard silver isn't a cure for lyme. Did you and the others you mentioned have it for long? I've had it for over 20 years - was misdiagnosed for about 17 years. I have a silvergen, and it's not made much of a difference with the lyme when I've used it for some time. That's why I was wondering about the ACS. Also you see mesosilver out there on the web saying it's the most effective kind of silver out there. So I was wondering if there's a silver that can be more effective than my silvergen makes like the two above mentioned. Thanks It cured my lyme, and my wife's, and the guy's who taught me how to make CS, and hosts of other people he has cured... Dick From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 11:18:28 PM Subject: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161 I'm dealing with late stage lyme disease and babesia. I have a silvergen and have used silver for 20 years for infections like bladder or lung infections. I've been hearing about silver for lyme, but it's the doctor who developed the ACS brand of silver who's saying it can kill lyme. I've always heard silver won't eradicate lyme. I'm wondering if you think it can reduce my bacteria load, and the protazoan load (babesia). If so, is ACS better than other brands? Or is there a better brand? Or is my silvergen silver as good? Thanks!
CSSilver type for lyme babesia
Hi all, I'm still hoping for an answer to my original question. What's the best and most effective form of silver for me (lymes disease and babesia)? Should I use my silvergen, or ACS, Mesosilver, Sovereign Silver I'd really appreciate an answer if anyone has one, or if not, where can I look or ask...??? Thanks!! Greg
CSRE: silver help with lymes type?
Dick - what type of silver were you using - what generator? I've always heard silver isn't a cure for lyme. Did you and the others you mentioned have it for long? I've had it for over 20 years - was misdiagnosed for about 17 years. I have a silvergen, and it's not made much of a difference with the lyme when I've used it for some time. That's why I was wondering about the ACS. Also you see mesosilver out there on the web saying it's the most effective kind of silver out there. So I was wondering if there's a silver that can be more effective than my silvergen makes like the two above mentioned. Thanks It cured my lyme, and my wife's, and the guy's who taught me how to make CS, and hosts of other people he has cured... Dick From: Greg Ball granb...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 11:18:28 PM Subject: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161 I'm dealing with late stage lyme disease and babesia. I have a silvergen and have used silver for 20 years for infections like bladder or lung infections. I've been hearing about silver for lyme, but it's the doctor who developed the ACS brand of silver who's saying it can kill lyme. I've always heard silver won't eradicate lyme. I'm wondering if you think it can reduce my bacteria load, and the protazoan load (babesia). If so, is ACS better than other brands? Or is there a better brand? Or is my silvergen silver as good? Thanks!
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2010 #161
I'm dealing with late stage lyme disease and babesia. I have a silvergen and have used silver for 20 years for infections like bladder or lung infections. I've been hearing about silver for lyme, but it's the doctor who developed the ACS brand of silver who's saying it can kill lyme. I've always heard silver won't eradicate lyme. I'm wondering if you think it can reduce my bacteria load, and the protazoan load (babesia). If so, is ACS better than other brands? Or is there a better brand? Or is my silvergen silver as good? Thanks!
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2009 #129
Lyme Silver Questions: Hi all, I posted this message but haven't gotten any responses. I'd really appreciate help with these questions: I'm considering using colloidal silver as a part of my regular regimen for lyme and babesia. I have several questions and I'd be grateful for your help. For your info, I have a Silvergen machine. Here goes: 1. Should I be using Silvergen silver, or would I have better results with one of the pre-made silvers like mesosilver, nutrasilver or argentyn 23? 2. How much silver should I take? Dosage info please. 3. Has anyone out there used silver for lyme and babesia? Has it helped? Thanks so much!
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2009 #124
Lyme Silver Questions: Hi All - I'm considering using colloidal silver as a part of my regular regimen for lyme and babesia. I have several questions and I'd be grateful for your help. For your info, I have a Silvergen machine. Here goes: 1. Should I be using Silvergen silver, or would I have better results with one of the pre-made silvers like mesosilver, nutrasilver or argentyn 23? 2. How much silver should I take? Dosage info please. 3. Has anyone out there used silver for lyme and babesia? Has it helped? Thanks so much!
CSRe: How do you test effectiveness of CS ?
Hi, I am wondering how I could test the bacteria and virus killing effectiveness of the CS that I have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Greg
Re: CSRe: How do you test effectiveness of CS ?
Hi Wayne, Thanks for your reply. I believe that CS is effective against pathogens. I just do't know for sure if I have purchased plain water or if it is the real thing. The person that made it has made good and effective CS in the past but has changed production methods. He believes he has a very small particle size and 15-20 ppm. Since I am eating raw eggs in a smoothie I would like to be sure that I am protecting myself against salmonella by adding some of this CS. While particle size and ppm is important, the real property of this CS that I have that I am really interested in is its' ability to kill pathogens. I've had a few suggestions from this list that are helpful to me and hopefully will be able to find out how potent this CS is. Thanks, Greg Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote: Morning Greg, At 09:24 AM 8/3/2008, you wrote: I am wondering how I could test the bacteria and virus killing effectiveness of the CS that I have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. You could simply accept all the historical evidence. With all the sick people in the world, you can't find one or two? The CS I have made over the years seems to be near 100 % effective. Now if you mean, see a live virus and see a dead virus, that is a bit harder. I have a very good microscope, better than most doctors, but I doubt that I will ever see a virus with it, some bacteria, maybe. You should be able to find someone with a microscope, if you do not have one. Possibly even find someone at a college with access to a DarkField. More places have one today than in the past. Brooks, Marshall, other chemists, and scientists can tell you better. Fortunately, I work with some research scientists at a local college. Now, . the value of your message to me, It gave me some great ideas. Thanks for that ! Or after I talk to them, you could send some to me. Others may test it for you also. Common, non technical testing is likely good enough. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSRe: How do you test effectiveness of CS ?
Hi Kirsten, Thanks for the reply and good ideas. bye for now, Greg Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Greg Bean tedd2pump...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I am wondering how I could test the bacteria and virus killing effectiveness of the CS that I have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. One site suggested soaking 2 identical bowls of muesli overnight in milk, drain them and then every day spray one with CS and one with plain water. it said you would see a vast difference as the CS would not allow bacteria to grow. I've never tried it so can't vouch for it but it might be fun to try. cheers Kirsteen
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2006 #446
I thought I would repeat my original question so it is not lost, as I am still looking for the answers. Here it is again - thanks all: I'm being told that silver needs to be ingested apart from stuff like salt, vit C, etc. I know you need pure water to make the silver so it doesn't bond with these things, but do you need to keep it apart from food and vits when you eat for the same reason? I've read it's best to take it on an empty stomach, but thought that was because it would be more effective, not because it was bonding with other substances. I take ozone water first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, and then eat frequent small meals and many supplements throughout the day, so it's pretty impossible to find a time with an empty stomach. Also, does anyone know if silver will kill babesia which is a single cell parasite in the family of malaria? If so, how much of my silvergen made silver should I take for this? - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2006 #446
CSCholesterol for Teri
Hi Teri - two things that have brought down my husband and my cholesterol naturally and radically: Protein power diet - We both eat this way and it makes a huge difference to our levels. Liver flushing - I was doing a Hulda Clark style liver flush for other reasons and a side effect was that my cholesterol was lowered significantly after doing a couple of them. You can find directions and info on www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ There is some risk involved with it, so you should read the site carefully to make your decision about doing it. It's my understanding that a clogged up liver can be a cause of high cholesterol. - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2006 #442
CSConsuming silver with food/vits?
Hi all, I'm being told that silver needs to be ingested apart from stuff like salt, vit C, etc. I know you need pure water to make the silver so it doesn't bond with these things, but do you need to keep it apart from food and vits when you eat for the same reason? I've read it's best to take it on an empty stomach, but thought that was because it would be more effective, not because it was bonding with other substances. I take ozone water first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, and then eat frequent small meals and many supplements throughout the day, so it's pretty impossible to find a time with an empty stomach. Also, does anyone know if silver will kill babesia which is a single cell parasite in the family of malaria? If so, how much of my silvergen made silver should I take for this?
CS
Bev and others, I did send this late last night but have not seen it in the digest. Just wanted to make sure Bev sees this. Also I wanted to add that the reason that I decided not to use antibiotics is that I've had lyme for perhaps 20 years with false negatives on tests, until the recent new tests came out. It appeared to me that once folks with late stage lyme who got off the meds, they frequently relapsed. It appears the meds do kill some of the load, but the bugs go into places in the body where the meds can't penetrate in enough concentration, such as the brain. They also change into a different form which keeps them dormant and hidden from meds. So you can feel better, but stop the drug and they start to get active and reproduce. Here's last nights message: Bev, after lots of serious research, I decided not to use antibiotics but to do the following. I bought a rife machine. I have not started yet as I am doing the salt/C and want to ramp up to a good dose first. Then I will add rife, mag pulser and beck later. I have been taking glutathione IV's which help clear out the toxins the bugs make. It has helped me very significantly and is worth the time and money. I find it has helped my immune system as my blood work has improved, and it helps with energy and mental clarity. I seem to get less infections. I eat low carb as described in the book Protein Power, which appears to be the best diet for those with lyme. It definitely makes a difference for me. I find the lyme/rife group on yahoo to be most helpful with all kinds of issues. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/ I find the salt/c yahoo group to be helpful with info for that tactic. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/http://health.groupsyahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ Lymenet.org has some good boards with folks who are using mainstream and alternative approaches: http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgihttp://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi? I will pulse in natural antibiotics such as silver and samento for maybe 2-3 weeks at a time as any more than that can push the bugs to change form and hide if I understand things correctly. I'm not sure yet if I can take silver continuously or not without causing other approaches to be less effective. I don't believe that silver on it's own can reach the bugs in all the hiding places and and all their forms, so I intend to use silver as a part of the plan to lower the bug load. Ozone is also something I use that makes a dent in how I feel, but as a stand alone, it won't conquer the lyme, possibly for the same reasons as silver, but I intend to use it with everything else. I've used it for years and feel it's really helped me. Additionally, I think cleansing is essential before doing all of this. I did a colon cleanse with oxy-powder, which I found to be more effective than any other type of colon cleanse I've tried. Then I did 5 Hulda Clark ( www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ ) style liver flushes which made a big difference. Many of my blood tests went normal from the flushes. I used a kidney cleanse formula also. I believe that colon and liver cleansing are essential to allow the body to handle the toxins created by killing the bugs. It can make for less intense and prolonged herxing, with less damage to the system from toxins. I do hope this helps. Andrea - Original Message - From: M. G. Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: CSBev's Lyme disease... Folks, is there anybody with other suggestions for Bev? She's dealing with Lyme complicated by past chemotherapy, it seems. There are people who've done amazing things against deep seated Lyme using Rife, electrical devices, and numerous other therapies besides CS. Can we get a brief re-hash of some of this, please? One source i was thinking about was Bryan Posner's book: http://www.lymebook.com/http://www.lymebook.com/ I haven't read it, but know enough to suspect it's worth the read. Any others? Thanks, Mike D. Andrea, I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs. I have used sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at all. I tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too. I have no alternative at this point. I have a generator that I bought and now don't use. My dr. recommended it. I was about to unsubscribe from this list as there are so many that don't help a lyme disease person from what I can see and yet I haven't as yet. I wish there was a lyme/silver only list that I could rely on. Also, this bacteria is so tricky and each of our bodies are so different. I have gone
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858
For the lung infection thing with my nebulizer, I used Sovereign as I was afraid to use my homemade for my lungs. I felt purity was really important and also I wanted the small particle size of Sovereign. For my lungs, I think I would stick to Sovereign, but that's just me. Andrea - Original Message - From: Ode Coyotemailto:odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 7:56 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858 There's very little, if any, appreciable difference.. I know of 2 people who cured...yes CURED..long term chronic lung infections using home made CS and nothing more than an atomizer to inhale it with after the antibiotics did nothing more that fight the infection back 'some' and having it come back over and over. One of those people had been in a wheelchair on oxygen and nebulized medications for a decade due to his lung infection..now up and about feeling good. [That one used a nebulizer. It took about 6 weeks to cut though and cough up all the green crud built up over the years] The other, a friend of the family, wowed his doctor after she threw her hands up, took him off the antibiotics and gave him a death sentence. [He used an atomizer. It took about 2 weeks of carrying a little spray bottle around] He went in for monitoring every other day. The doc said, Whatever you are doing, keep it up. Ode At 09:02 PM 12/22/2005 -0600, you wrote: hi would home made CS be just as good? also what type/kind of nebulizer do you use? thanks chad - Original Message - From: mailto:granb...@msn.comGregmailto:granb...@msn.comGreg Ball To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858 When I had a lung infection I got a nebulizer and put Sovereign silver in and inhaled deeply, holding the silver mist in. I got rid of the infection quicker than my husband who started antibiotics before I started these silver treatments. Andrea - Original Message - From: mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: mailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.comsilver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.comsilver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEfficacy of antibiotic treatment for Lyme disease
Marshall, how long did you take the cmo for? What symptoms of the lyme did it help with? - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudleymailto:mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: CSEfficacy of antibiotic treatment for Lyme disease It is extracted from Beef tallow from what I remember, and resets the immune system. It completely got rid of my arthritis. If I remember right a round was 3 capsules a day for 10 days, 30 capsules total. Marshall sol wrote: Marshall, I know nothing about CMO except that I looked into it a couple years ago, and don't remember anything about it. I don't even know what it is, how it is taken, or what a 'round' of it would entail. Don't remember where to get it either. Used to be someone on this list who sold it, IIRR. Could you post more details? I'd like to know more about your experience with it. thanks, sol Marshall Dudley wrote: I consider this quite likely. In fact I have been saying this for about 6 years now. Although I got significant improvement from the IV I eventually received in the late 80's, it was 10 years before I got rid of all my symptoms, only when I started using EIS (CS) and took a round of CMO did the symptoms leave completely. As most of you know CMO resets the immune system, stopping any autoimmune problems. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858
When I had a lung infection I got a nebulizer and put Sovereign silver in and inhaled deeply, holding the silver mist in. I got rid of the infection quicker than my husband who started antibiotics before I started these silver treatments. Andrea - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #858
CSPEROXIDE SILVER - HOW LONG?
How Long do you have to leave the silver before you drink it once you've added the hydrogen peroxide? - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.commailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.commailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #860
CSBev's Lyme disease...
Bev, after lots of serious research, I decided not to use antibiotics but to do the following. I bought a rife machine. I have not started yet as I am doing the salt/C and want to ramp up to a good dose first. Then I will add rife, mag pulser and beck later. I have been taking glutathione IV's which help clear out the toxins the bugs make. It has helped me very significantly and is worth the time and money. I find it has helped my immune system as my blood work has improved, and it helps with energy and mental clarity. I seem to get less infections. I eat low carb as described in the book Protein Power, which appears to be the best diet for those with lyme. It definitely makes a difference for me. I find the lyme/rife group on yahoo to be most helpful with all kinds of issues. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/ I find the salt/c yahoo group to be helpful with info for that tactic. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/http://health.groupsyahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ Lymenet.org has some good boards with folks who are using mainstream and alternative approaches: http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgihttp://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi? I will pulse in natural antibiotics such as silver and samento for maybe 2-3 weeks at a time as any more than that can push the bugs to change form and hide if I understand things correctly. I'm not sure yet if I can take silver continuously or not without causing other approaches to be less effective. I don't believe that silver on it's own can reach the bugs in all the hiding places and and all their forms, so I intend to use silver as a part of the plan to lower the bug load. Ozone is also something I use that makes a dent in how I feel, but as a stand alone, it won't conquer the lyme, possibly for the same reasons as silver, but I intend to use it with everything else. I've used it for years and feel it's really helped me. Additionally, I think cleansing is essential before doing all of this. I did a colon cleanse with oxy-powder, which I found to be more effective than any other type of colon cleanse I've tried. Then I did 5 Hulda Clark ( www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ ) style liver flushes which made a big difference. Many of my blood tests went normal from the flushes. I used a kidney cleanse formula also. I believe that colon and liver cleansing are essential to allow the body to handle the toxins created by killing the bugs. It can make for less intense and prolonged herxing, with less damage to the system from toxins. I do hope this helps. Andrea - Original Message - From: M. G. Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: CSBev's Lyme disease... Folks, is there anybody with other suggestions for Bev? She's dealing with Lyme complicated by past chemotherapy, it seems. There are people who've done amazing things against deep seated Lyme using Rife, electrical devices, and numerous other therapies besides CS. Can we get a brief re-hash of some of this, please? One source i was thinking about was Bryan Posner's book: http://www.lymebook.com/http://www.lymebook.com/ I haven't read it, but know enough to suspect it's worth the read. Any others? Thanks, Mike D. Andrea, I have had lyme disease with no co infections for 8 yrs. I have used sovernign silver but quite frankly, the silver does not help me at all. I tried for several months with an MD who is also alternative. I truly wished it had helped as antibiotics do their damage too. I have no alternative at this point. I have a generator that I bought and now don't use. My dr. recommended it. I was about to unsubscribe from this list as there are so many that don't help a lyme disease person from what I can see and yet I haven't as yet. I wish there was a lyme/silver only list that I could rely on. Also, this bacteria is so tricky and each of our bodies are so different. I have gone thru breast cancer in 81 and it was in my lymph nodes and wasn't suppose to survive. I had a year of chemotherapy and I'm aliver after so many years ago. If someone can truly tell me a similar story with cancer/chemo and now lyme disease I guess that would help. Chemo does permanant damage and now the bacteria is having a field day. I do trust SS and there is a gal in Texas that was able to get it for me at cost. If that is of help send me your information and I'll try to help. For now, I am on Bicillin LA for the past 4 months and herxing like crazy. Bev [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a
CSPLEASE CHANGE SUBSCRIPTION TO DIGEST
Sorry to do this on the regular list, but I've been sending this request to the appropriate email, but it has not been taken care of. I am getting a lot out of this board but it's flooding my inbox. I'm hoping the list master will see this and stop the individual emails and change me to a daily digest. Thanks Andrea - Original Message - From: Jim Holmesmailto:ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: RE: CSCansema Paste The presidency has been a military dictatorship since 1862. He has the authority to do whatever the he chooses -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 4:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCansema Paste Amen. According the mainstream news reports, President Bush has admitted his repeated and willful violations of the law in ordering spying on American citizens; according to AP, the FBI admits that most of the more than 10,000 were not suspected of any wrongdoing. Only a handful of persons knows the true purpose of these illegal actions. I would go so far as to assume that every person on our list may be monitored by someone. When the truth finally comes out, there may be some changes in government. On Monday, Dec 19, 2005, at 22:07 Asia/Tokyo, Tel Tofflemire wrote: Big brother is watching us all. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSproduct to nancy-web site to lea ann
Hi Nancy and all - I don't know if I'm getting all my messages because I think I'm missing some info here. I would like to understand the H202 thing better. Does everyone agree that H202 breaks down the particle sizes? Does it actually stop clumping, or is it doing something to the individual silver particles? Also, I think someone said 1 drop per 2 ounces of silver water. Is this what everyone is doing - or are others using different amounts. Thanks - Andrea - Original Message - From: Betsy Coffeymailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: CSproduct to nancy-web site to lea ann Thanks Nacny. I guess I didnt realize that the h202 added was to break down the particles in the cs. I somehow thought that it was added as an extra medicinal way to kill bacteria and fungi. The product I was referring to is called stomach rescue. Lea Ann, have you googled rarediseases.org for your friends illness? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.comhttp://mail.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH202 SILVER
Hi all - I don't know if I'm getting all my messages because I think I'm missing some info here. I would like to understand the H202 thing better. Does everyone agree that H202 breaks down the particle sizes? Does it actually stop clumping, or is it doing something to the individual silver particles? Also, I think someone said 1 drop per 2 ounces of silver water. Is this what everyone is doing - or are others using different amounts. Thanks - Andrea - Original Message - From: Betsy Coffeymailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: CSproduct to nancy-web site to lea ann Thanks Nacny. I guess I didnt realize that the h202 added was to break down the particles in the cs. I somehow thought that it was added as an extra medicinal way to kill bacteria and fungi. The product I was referring to is called stomach rescue. Lea Ann, have you googled rarediseases.org for your friends illness? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.comhttp://mail.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArgyria nanosilver
Dr. - you wrote: As long as we make crystal clear CS/EIS, a large part of it will be Nanosilver. What is EIS? Thank you - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlinmailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: CSArgyria nanosilver Recently there were posts between Marshall and Ole Bob concerning what causes argyria. Marshall posted several websites to support the statements he made. I looked over each of them. His points about argyria being caused by ionic and not colloidal silver are examples of the confusion that occurs repeatedly on this list from using words with different definitions. I find a great deal of the discussion here to sometimes be confusing because there have been no agreed-upon definitions of the words we use, different definitions are used than the rest of the scientific world uses, and two people will be talking apples and oranges without knowing it. I regularly see listers using *colloidal* as being different than *ionic*, even though absolutely everything we make is ionic. I would like to see a description of how to make a colloidal silver with electricity in which the silver particles do not have a charge. IONIC means an atom or group of atoms that have a charge. http://www.ozoneservices.com/glossary/i/ion.htmhttp://www.ozoneservices.com/glossary/i/ion.htm http://herh.ednet.ns.ca/Teachers/FarrellL/AtomicTheoryFAQ.htm#10http://herh.ednet.ns.ca/Teachers/FarrellL/AtomicTheoryFAQ.htm#10 http://ic-www.arc.nasa.gov/ic/projects/remote-agent/activities/pofo/docs/Propulsion/1-what-is-an-ion.htmlhttp://ic-www.arc.nasa.gov/ic/projects/remote-agent/activities/pofo/docs/Propulsion/1-what-is-an-ion.html Marshall's claim that only ionic silver causes argyria and not colloidal silver is based on a specific description of the mechanism of argyria that he accepts as valid. After perusing the sites Marshall posted, I could not find that description. The idea that only ionic silver salts cause argyria after they have reached the capillaries of the skin and are exposed to sunlight (which causes them to darken in color) has a logical sound to it, but it has some difficulties. I so far have not been able to find any medical resource that attributes the formation of argyria to that mechanism. If only silver ions cause argyria, how did the European Royalty get argyria from ingesting metallic silver powder? Marshall said, Can you name any other form of silver besides a salt or compound that can cause argyria and the process by which it could do so? Well, metallic silver powder is one. One possible explanation is that the stomach's digestive acid converted some of the silver powder to a silver salt. Since all ingested silver must pass through the stomach and its digestive acid bath (which apparently turns it into a silver salt), why would ionic silver (which is all that we make) be specified as the causative factor? If stomach acid does not convert metallic/colloidal silver into a salt form, how explain the argyria from drinking silver powder? And it completely begs the question of cases of argyria caused by inhaling silver powder, or applying silver compounds to the skin, sinuses and other mucous membranes. The medical establishment doesn't know what actually CAUSES argyria, they only know what happens before it appears (ingesting huge amounts of silver nitrate, etc.). I have not seen a description of the mechanism of argyria that is comprehensive enough to account for all the various ways that argyria is contracted. We still seem to be differentiating between particles of one size and particles of another by calling the one colloidal and the other ionic, when actually, they are all ionic. To make a silver preparation in which the particles are so small that they make no color or have much or any Tyndall is to have particles that are billionths of a meter (nanometer) in size, which is called, accurately, nanosilver. Nanosilver cannot be made with any compounds resulting because the particles would be too large to be nanometer in size. Nanosilver cannot be made with anything but the purest silver and the purest water. Is that not what we do? If you brew a solution long enough to cause a yellow or gold color, the solution is still pure, but the particles are not nanometer in size. Nanosilver is, by definition, a pure silver preparation with silver particles measured in nanometers. It must be pure to even be made. As long as we make crystal clear CS/EIS, a large part of it will be Nanosilver. There is no evidence whatsoever that it is even possible to cause argyria from any amount or any application of Nanosilver. Nanosilver is not affected by heat, cold, sunlight, magnetism, etc., and is the most effective form of silver
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Nancy - I may have missed this in another post, but how much sovereign did you take, and did you combine that with homemade? Also, how did you make your homemade silver? Lastly, why mix the silver with the H202? I have an ozone machine and can drink ozone water. Would this be the same because it ads oxygen? or is there something about the peroxide that's unique? Does it combine somehow with the silver? Thanks so much for sharing! - Original Message - From: solmailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Could you tell us exactly how you made your homemade CS? I'd like to know if my homemade is comparable to yours or not. thanks, sol Nancy DeLise wrote: I must differ with you. It was my experience...I took my homemade CS (16-24 oz. per day of approx 10ppm) for 2 1/2 years and got better BUT painfully slow. Thanks to this list, I learned about H2o2 and began adding it to my CS 1 drop 3% per 2 oz. of CS)I saw improvement much quicker...Finally I learned about Sovereign Silver and with in months was very much improved. People who have MS and started with Sovereign Silver saw results quicker then I did with my homemade. For most uses everyday I would say 1-2 oz. of home made per day is great, and topically, there is NOTHING better...but for a disease ie: cancer, MS, lupus, fibromyalgia, Lyme, etcI would do Sovereign Silver (At least a combination of both home made and Sovereign Silver). Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSand the silver dollar award goes to......measurment tool called..... what ?
Hi V - Glad to see you on this board. I just joined - this is Andrea. You sold me a beck some time ago. Did you happen to see my post about which way to go? Could you advise me - Sovereign silver or Silvergen? I'd love your opinion. Thanks - Andrea - Original Message - From: Vmailto:vzo...@yahoo.com To: hotmail angelznestmailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:20 AM Subject: Re: CSand the silver dollar award goes to..measurment tool called. what ? Just get one of these and your all set. http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmhttp://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htm TDS Meter Take care, V so. what did y'all/we all decide was the best, easiest and most accurate way to measure ppms in our eis/cs or whatever you want to call our silver water? i'm ready to buy something so i can feel like it's NOT only all in my head !!! i read the silverpuppy webpage on the meters and it's way above me. couldn't really find one single sentence with the words use this to measure the silver ppms and this is how you do it anyone fluent in simple english on here? thanks silverists, angel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
I did measure it with the tester V just recommended in his post. http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmhttp://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htm I actually have that one. The longer I would go with my silver, the more yellow it gets. Also, The black debris on the silver wire would get really thick and crusty. If I stopped the process to clean the wire - and then started again, the silver would get dark or very yellow. I couldn't get it past 2-3 ppm with clear water. I don't want the yellow silver as I am aware that represents clumping. - Original Message - From: Robert Bergermailto:bober...@swbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Hi Andrea, Where did you get the dat that the 3-9 only produce a 2 to 3 ppm silver solution? Whoever told you that is illiterate about the whole process. you can get almost whatever concentration you want. Its just a matter of time. How do you know the concentration ? Have you had it measured with an approved device? If not you have no idea what you have.!! Don't spend your money on sovereign silver, your home made will work just as well. Ole Bob
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
That makes sense to me. Is there more of a concern with large doses of the homemade with Argyria? - Original Message - From: solmailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Even if there was a difference, since SS recommends tiny dosages, couldn't Silverpuppy and Silvergen users just drink more? Lots more? Maybe I'm just a confirmed believer in more is better for serious diseases/infections, but I really just can't see a couple of teaspoons doing much, no matter how good the quality of the CS is. sol Ode Coyote wrote: People who use the silvergen or the silverpuppy generators and have also bought Sovereign Silver say they can't tell any difference at all. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Thanks Marshall - I do have a beck device, an ozone machine, and also a gb4000. I've been waiting to add in the beck and gb4000 as I decided to start on salt/c first, and I've been ramping up to the needed dose. That's taking some time. I'm planning on doing the entire battle against the buggers. I still could use a suggestion as to how much silver to take daily with the Silvergen. Thanks for your help. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudleymailto:mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Greg Ball wrote: Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that I contracted probably 20 years ago. I was given false negatives for all those years, and within the last year tried a new test which was positive. I am trying to decide on two things: 1. Do I use a home made silver or should I buy the Sovereign Silver or their stronger 23 ppm version? Any of the above. But the amounts you will need to do any good this late in the game you should consider making your own, otherwise it will get very expensive. I have been considering buying the silvergen. I have a small home made three 9 volt batter silver maker, but it doesn't go above 2-3 ppm, and I'm sure it's not a very good quality. The Sovereign I have heard repeatedly to be the purest and the most dispersed and fine particles of silver. However it's super expensive! It would be so much money to just take enough to make a difference. The silvergen SG6 is a very good unit. It can produce EIS of over 20 ppm consistantly. The Sovereign people say that no home made can compare to their silver's purity, effectiveness and safety from Argeria. As long as you are getting any colloidal component, then argyria should not be a concern. That can be easily detected with a laser pointer. What do you all think? Is the homemade close enough to be effective and safe? Is the Silvergen the one you would suggest? Or should I stick with Sovereign Silver? Homemade if fine, the SilverGen is a good unit. 2. How much should I be taking to kill lyme and babesia (a single celled parasite that is a co-infection w/lyme from the same tick bite). The problem with lyme is that it finds very good hiding places. EIS can be very effective early on with lyme, but many who have had it for years find that although they can clear their blood stream, the spirochetes can still remain in the lymph system, nerve ganglia, maybe the brain, and the cartlidges. Those who have found that EIS is not enough have often been able to recover using the full Bob Beck Protocol. The EIS clears the blood and muscles, the ozonated water the nerve ganglia and brain, the magnetic pulser the lymph system, and the blood electrification the blood again. Marshall
Re: CSlyme test to andrea
I'm sorry - I don't know what that means. I believe that's the test that I showed negative for 20 years. It tests the immune response to the but, however many people's bodies do not discern the bug and fight it. I believe it's considered a stealth bug. I did the Bowen labs test, which actually discerns the bug in the blood. Here are links to Bowen labs and also Igenx. Many folks like the Igenx tests. My doc who is an infectious disease specialist preferred the bowen test. Here's the link: http://www.bowen.org/http://www.bowen.org/ http://www.igenex.com/http://www.igenex.com/ Hope this helps! Andrea - Original Message - From: Betsy Coffeymailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: CSlyme test to andrea Andrea, my mom tested iquivical on a western blott.Do you know what this means? she has all the symptoms of lyme disease. What test did you recently test positive for? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.comhttp://mail.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
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Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
I have never seen anywhere that I need to stir. What is this about? Also, what is 1 mA per square inch of anode area? Translate please. Thanks! - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudleymailto:mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE Greg Ball wrote: I did measure it with the tester V just recommended in his post. http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmhttp://www.sunstoneherbals.com/tds3.htmI actually have that one. The longer I would go with my silver, the more yellow it gets. Also, The black debris on the silver wire would get really thick and crusty. If I stopped the process to clean the wire - and then started again, the silver would get dark or very yellow. I couldn't get it past 2-3 ppm with clear water. I don't want the yellow silver as I am aware that represents clumping. Sounds like any of the following: 1. Your water is not pure enough 2. You are not limiting to 1 mA per square inch of anode area 3. You are not stirring rapid enough. A light yellow is fine, but you do not want a strong yellow or dark color. Marshall
Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
why add the H2o2? Does that alter the silver in any way? 8 drops per 8 ounces or total? - Original Message - From: Nancy DeLisemailto:nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:25 AM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE If you are making pure CS there is no danger of argyeria. I believe you can take a gallon a day with no problem, however, if you could drink a gallon day? who would. I believe 16-20 oz.per day with 8 drops of 3 % H2o2 added to it. Nancy - Original Message - From: Greg Ballmailto:granb...@msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE That makes sense to me. Is there more of a concern with large doses of the homemade with Argyria?
RE: CSHOMEMADE VS. SOVEREIGN, LYME DISEASE
Hi - I'm new to the list and could use advice. I am working on overcoming Lyme disease and babesia that I contracted probably 20 years ago. I was given false negatives for all those years, and within the last year tried a new test which was positive. I am trying to decide on two things: 1. Do I use a home made silver or should I buy the Sovereign Silver or their stronger 23 ppm version? I have been considering buying the silvergen. I have a small home made three 9 volt batter silver maker, but it doesn't go above 2-3 ppm, and I'm sure it's not a very good quality. The Sovereign I have heard repeatedly to be the purest and the most dispersed and fine particles of silver. However it's super expensive! It would be so much money to just take enough to make a difference. The Sovereign people say that no home made can compare to their silver's purity, effectiveness and safety from Argeria. What do you all think? Is the homemade close enough to be effective and safe? Is the Silvergen the one you would suggest? Or should I stick with Sovereign Silver? 2. How much should I be taking to kill lyme and babesia (a single celled parasite that is a co-infection w/lyme from the same tick bite). Thanks in advance for your advice support! Andrea
Re: CSMalaria questions
I've been diagnosed with babesia which is in the family of malaria. How much silver would I take to knock this out? Thanks - Andrea - Original Message - From: Jim Holmesmailto:ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:50 PM Subject: RE: CSMalaria questions Silver is being used in Mexico with great success to cure Malaria. -Original Message- From: Heather King (LCA) [mailto:heather.k...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMalaria questions Hello Listers, My Parents (65 68 years old) just returned from a year in Uganda Malawi, with the longest bit of time spent in very primitive conditions in Malawi. My Dad managed to contract malaria about 2 months ago and only suffered symptoms for a short duration. They were both on antibiotics nearly the whole time they were there, so I was wondering if the antibiotics reduced his possible parasitic infection. Would he basically still have malaria even though they haven't found much in his blood to prove it? Also, in your opinion, what type of damage would steady antibiotic use do an older person's immune system, if any? And lastly, but probably more importantly, would CS have any effect on malaria parasites? Lots of questions, I know. You all seem to have such a vast body of experience that I'm hoping this set of Q's falls somewhere inside that. Thanks in advance, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
