[2.0a2] Cannot save address
Hello! I've got this annoying problem: Want to add an address for a mailing list, but as it is only a list's address, there's no first name and last name, so I'm entering only display name and email address. When clicking OK, the address is dropped without any warning :-( So, please tell me, which fields I have to fill in to get it saved, is it first or last name, and which fields are probably also needed??? Kind regards Peter ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 6:15:58 PM, and on a whim, jim pounded out on the keyboard: Thanks Heaps for your Detailed reply Terry. Regards. jim You're welcome Jim. If you have any other questions, don't be afraid to ask. You might want to do it in mozilla.general if it isn't specific to the support groups. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't view email forwarded as attachment
A little update. I recently got an email from someone that had the problem mentioned previously. In my webmail interface, I forwarded the email to my work address. From there, I forwarded the attachment back to myself using Outlook. I was able to view the attachment in Seamonkey with no problem. So I decided to compare the two versions of the email to see if I could figure out what was so different between them. In the email that didn't display correctly, it included the following code for all parts of the message: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the email that worked, There were two. For ASCII text sections, it had: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the binary sections of the email it had: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since the problem appears to be that Seamonkey (and Thunderbird) aren't recognizing the content type, it makes me think that this is somehow to blame. Also, since the problem is recent, it makes me think that something has changed on my computer that interprets the settings in the email. If anyone has a clue as to what that might be or how to repair the problem, feel free to share. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 does not offer to remember passwords
Margo Guda wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Margo Guda wrote: I recently changed the password on one site which was on my managed passwords list. So I used the password manager to delete that entry, as it would pop up with the old password filled out. However I do want the new password to be remembered by SM, and now when I log in at the site it never offers to remember the password. I have set cookies to be accepted for the site, javascript is ON, popups are permitted (in case SM would use that to ask me to save the password). SM (I'm having this on two different machines, one running 2.0a3 and the other running 2.0 b1, both show the problem) never offers to save my password. In preferences the option to save passwords is ticked ON as well. What am I missing? Thanks in advance. And Password-Manager/Passwords Never Saved, is not listing the site ? (I just found that for me, it is denying addonsmirror.net, which is surprising. I removed it from this passwords that will not be saved list). No. But someone on this board mentioned a problem similar to what I saw, and posted this link: https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html This site has a bookmarklet that I could use: it seems the web page would suppress asking for a password after SM had saved one once. I don't claim to understand what happened, but running the Remember password bookmarklet enabled SM to pop the question again, and, once remembered, the password is in my password list and is entered automatically when the login box pops up. That's all I wanted, so I've saved the bookmarklet for later reference. Thanks for responding. Many thanks for that link. Good to know "Remember Password" bookmarklet works in SM-2.0a3 and 2.0 b1pre. Just a note to-mention a pretty-important caveat, in that "Remember-Password" only works on sites that use autocomplete="off" to prevent your browser from remembering passwords. If the site uses another method to break your browser's password manager, such as having two password fields or submitting the form using JavaScript, this bookmarklet won't help. Barry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Ray_Net wrote: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36:19 PM, and on a whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it Hi Bill, Right click on the folder and select, "Compact". When message come in and are removed, unless you configure an auto-compact, the old messages still remain in the folder. They're just "marked" as deleted until you compact. I prefer doing it manually rather than having the program do it. Me too. Don't forget to mention that "cleaning" a 1GB will take a "certain" time Actually a likely long UNCERTAIN amount of time. Depends on just how many deleted emails are in it and the speed of your computer and disk drive. Give it a few minutes. Or more. David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 does not offer to remember passwords
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Margo Guda wrote: I recently changed the password on one site which was on my managed passwords list. So I used the password manager to delete that entry, as it would pop up with the old password filled out. However I do want the new password to be remembered by SM, and now when I log in at the site it never offers to remember the password. I have set cookies to be accepted for the site, javascript is ON, popups are permitted (in case SM would use that to ask me to save the password). SM (I'm having this on two different machines, one running 2.0a3 and the other running 2.0 b1, both show the problem) never offers to save my password. In preferences the option to save passwords is ticked ON as well. What am I missing? Thanks in advance. And Password-Manager/Passwords Never Saved, is not listing the site ? (I just found that for me, it is denying addonsmirror.net, which is surprising. I removed it from this passwords that will not be saved list). No. But someone on this board mentioned a problem similar to what I saw, and posted this link: https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html This site has a bookmarklet that I could use: it seems the web page would suppress asking for a password after SM had saved one once. I don't claim to understand what happened, but running the Remember password bookmarklet enabled SM to pop the question again, and, once remembered, the password is in my password list and is entered automatically when the login box pops up. That's all I wanted, so I've saved the bookmarklet for later reference. Thanks for responding. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
On 03/30/2009 04:45 PM, Daniel wrote:
> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
>> Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50
>> or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
>> sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
>> if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
>> proportional font, etc. I won't repeat what I've already written.
>>
>
> but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!
>
> A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the
> emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML,
> etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!
>
>
>> To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
>> religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail client.
>> 8-{
>> /j
>>
>
> and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you
> are responding in your reply!!!
>
> Daniel
And some wonder why I have this filter setup for new.mozilla.org:
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
On Mar 30, 9:28 pm, Leonidas Jones wrote: > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > > On Mar 30, 6:44 pm, "Terry R." wrote: > >> The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, > >> googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: > > >>> On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo > >>> wrote: > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > > Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was > > trying to be space efficient. > not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. > Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others > are using the mailing lists > >>> Yeah - I got that now > > "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be > > sent as html." > > This is a false statement. > again, others have asked that you email them an html > message and then we'll go from there, and so far you > have failed to do that. > >>> I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email > > True statement: "If you choose to send in > > HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will > > convertto plaintextand send plaintext". > maybe it is and maybe its not > >>> Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this > >>> statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is > >>> the single, correct behavior. > > This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion > > be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. > we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and > file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/andrequest > for such an item > >>> Did so long ago > -- > >> We did some testing on this some time back and found that Moz clients > >> require at least one HTML element to send as HTML (10-07-08 in MTMM). > >> It can be done by creating a Template to use for your email and then > >> insert a simple HTML code in body using the HTML Editor (Insert, HTML > >> for TB). > > >> Or configure your sig file as HTML. > > >> Terry R. > >> -- > >> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. > >> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. > > > THANK YOU THANK YOU TERRY R. WOULD EVERYONE ELSE PLEASE READ HIS > > RESPONSE. > > "Moz clients require at least one HTML element to send as HTML". > > > My request is to have an option that changes the Options -> Format > > default from "Auto-Detect" to "HTML". So that it will require no HTML > > to send as HTML. > > > I suppose that someone can say "I disagree, I believe the default > > option should be Auto-Detect". and you have your opinion, and I have > > mine (athough if things were reversed, I would yield so that everyone > > can have things as they want). But please, can we stop the > > discussions that say > > > "SM doesn'tconvertHTML to plaintext" (see Terry R's response above, > > it does) > > "You shouldn't want you HTML to go out as HTML unless it needs to be, > > and here are some examples where it doesn't matter" (I do want it, > > and I have examples where it does matter). > > > 1) I've established what Options -> Format -> Auto-detect does. > > 2) I've established that there is no way to change the behavior > > without workarounds of various painfulness (hand-select Options -> > > Format -> HTML every time, add a signature with sufficient HTML in it, > > etc). > > 3) I've politely requested a way to change the default from Auto- > > Detect to "Rich (HTML)Text". > > > No offense to all, and I understand that some may not agree that my > > request should be granted, but I think I've proved that it's a valid > > request. > > > So if you want to continue discussion on how to implement, or (I > > suppose, sigh) whether to implement, that's great, but can I please > > stop proving that the issue exists? > > > Thanks all! > > /j > > I wish I could just let this go, but I have to ask. If your supposed > html emails have not actually contained any html elements, why have we > been going around this? You might as well have been sending in > plaintextright along. > > Lee No - HTML with nothing special is still HTML. It can look different to the recipient, also, the conversion to plain text isn't perfect. It's intermittent, but I've had it remove paragraph-breaks and vaery occasionally add line breaks randomly. I'm getting tired of using options->format->HTML every time i want to be sure a message arrives looking like i sent it. They get garbled only occasionally, but it's always the ones where I needed it to look right. /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 does not offer to remember passwords
Margo Guda wrote: I recently changed the password on one site which was on my managed passwords list. So I used the password manager to delete that entry, as it would pop up with the old password filled out. However I do want the new password to be remembered by SM, and now when I log in at the site it never offers to remember the password. I have set cookies to be accepted for the site, javascript is ON, popups are permitted (in case SM would use that to ask me to save the password). SM (I'm having this on two different machines, one running 2.0a3 and the other running 2.0 b1, both show the problem) never offers to save my password. In preferences the option to save passwords is ticked ON as well. What am I missing? Thanks in advance. And Password-Manager/Passwords Never Saved, is not listing the site ? (I just found that for me, it is denying addonsmirror.net, which is surprising. I removed it from this passwords that will not be saved list). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:44 pm, "Terry R." wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others are using the mailing lists Yeah - I got that now "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html." This is a false statement. again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email True statement: "If you choose to send in HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will convertto plaintextand send plaintext". maybe it is and maybe its not Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is the single, correct behavior. This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/andrequest for such an item Did so long ago -- We did some testing on this some time back and found that Moz clients require at least one HTML element to send as HTML (10-07-08 in MTMM). It can be done by creating a Template to use for your email and then insert a simple HTML code in body using the HTML Editor (Insert, HTML for TB). Or configure your sig file as HTML. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. THANK YOU THANK YOU TERRY R. WOULD EVERYONE ELSE PLEASE READ HIS RESPONSE. "Moz clients require at least one HTML element to send as HTML". My request is to have an option that changes the Options -> Format default from "Auto-Detect" to "HTML". So that it will require no HTML to send as HTML. I suppose that someone can say "I disagree, I believe the default option should be Auto-Detect". and you have your opinion, and I have mine (athough if things were reversed, I would yield so that everyone can have things as they want). But please, can we stop the discussions that say "SM doesn't convert HTML to plain text" (see Terry R's response above, it does) "You shouldn't want you HTML to go out as HTML unless it needs to be, and here are some examples where it doesn't matter" (I do want it, and I have examples where it does matter). 1) I've established what Options -> Format -> Auto-detect does. 2) I've established that there is no way to change the behavior without workarounds of various painfulness (hand-select Options -> Format -> HTML every time, add a signature with sufficient HTML in it, etc). 3) I've politely requested a way to change the default from Auto- Detect to "Rich (HTML) Text". No offense to all, and I understand that some may not agree that my request should be granted, but I think I've proved that it's a valid request. So if you want to continue discussion on how to implement, or (I suppose, sigh) whether to implement, that's great, but can I please stop proving that the issue exists? Thanks all! /j I wish I could just let this go, but I have to ask. If your supposed html emails have not actually contained any html elements, why have we been going around this? You might as well have been sending in plain text right along. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
Thanks Heaps for your Detailed reply Terry. Regards. jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.a3 Mismatched domains
Martin Feitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: I have a question about mismatched domains in SM 2.0.a3. I have set up two accounts with same news server, one with the actual name, and another with the numbered IP address. This allows me to set up different groups for different purposes in the two accounts. This is on a secure server, so, of course the cert causes an error for the numbered IP account. In SM 1.1.x, I had a choice of View Cert, Cancel, of OK to accept the cert. In SM 2.0.a3, I have only the option to View, or Cancel, making it impossible to view the groups. Is there some way to get the OK option back. At the present, I am using TB 2.0.0.21 to view the account. Lee => Preferences => ...Privacy... => Certificates => Manage Certificates => "Server" tab => Add Exception Martin Sorry this just looped endlessly as the SM attempted to verify the server. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
On Mar 30, 6:44 pm, "Terry R." wrote: > The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, > googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: > > > > > On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo > > wrote: > >> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > >>> Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was > >>> trying to be space efficient. > >> not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. > >> Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others > >> are using the mailing lists > > > Yeah - I got that now > >>> "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be > >>> sent as html." > >>> This is a false statement. > >> again, others have asked that you email them an html > >> message and then we'll go from there, and so far you > >> have failed to do that. > > > I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email > >>> True statement: "If you choose to send in > >>> HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will > >>> convertto plaintextand send plaintext". > >> maybe it is and maybe its not > > > Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this > > statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is > > the single, correct behavior. > >>> This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion > >>> be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. > >> we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and > >> file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/andrequest > >> for such an item > > > Did so long ago > >> -- > > We did some testing on this some time back and found that Moz clients > require at least one HTML element to send as HTML (10-07-08 in MTMM). > It can be done by creating a Template to use for your email and then > insert a simple HTML code in body using the HTML Editor (Insert, HTML > for TB). > > Or configure your sig file as HTML. > > Terry R. > -- > Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. > Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. THANK YOU THANK YOU TERRY R. WOULD EVERYONE ELSE PLEASE READ HIS RESPONSE. "Moz clients require at least one HTML element to send as HTML". My request is to have an option that changes the Options -> Format default from "Auto-Detect" to "HTML". So that it will require no HTML to send as HTML. I suppose that someone can say "I disagree, I believe the default option should be Auto-Detect". and you have your opinion, and I have mine (athough if things were reversed, I would yield so that everyone can have things as they want). But please, can we stop the discussions that say "SM doesn't convert HTML to plain text" (see Terry R's response above, it does) "You shouldn't want you HTML to go out as HTML unless it needs to be, and here are some examples where it doesn't matter" (I do want it, and I have examples where it does matter). 1) I've established what Options -> Format -> Auto-detect does. 2) I've established that there is no way to change the behavior without workarounds of various painfulness (hand-select Options -> Format -> HTML every time, add a signature with sufficient HTML in it, etc). 3) I've politely requested a way to change the default from Auto- Detect to "Rich (HTML) Text". No offense to all, and I understand that some may not agree that my request should be granted, but I think I've proved that it's a valid request. So if you want to continue discussion on how to implement, or (I suppose, sigh) whether to implement, that's great, but can I please stop proving that the issue exists? Thanks all! /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net wrote: > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > > Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I > > composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line > > that starts "Me". When I go into the sent folder and do a view -> > > message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been > > converted totext). > > > However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to > > myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line > > is MISSING. Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and > > it becomes very hard to read. > > > OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE" > > > From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009 > > X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 > > X-Mozilla- > > Keys: > > Message-ID: [omitted] > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400 > > From: [omitted] > > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv: > > 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > To:[omitted] > > Subject: This Week... > > Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. > > > I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: > > > Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away > > this week) > > > If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know > > ASAP. > > Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. > > > /j > > > WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER > > > OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. > > > I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: > > Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away > > this week) > > If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know > > ASAP. > > Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. > > > /j > > Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example. > I do your test. > It seems that only you have a problem ... > My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look > > Subject: TEST CONVERSION > Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2 > X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"! > > OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. > > I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: > > Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away > this week) > > If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know > ASAP. > Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. > > You got text, not HTML /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0
NoOp wrote: On 03/30/2009 11:34 AM, Bob Barrett wrote: I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in /usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the first start as root, I get this error: ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey Thanks for the quick response. Sorry. It looks like I forgot to supply that part. After trying to start it the first time as root' (with ./seamonkey), I received the error message. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. I forgot to add: when you delete messages, the message is deleted from the folder, but it still remains in the file. This is incase you want the messages back, there is a way to retrieve them. However, once in a while, you need to clean up your files, and get rid of those left over messages, and the way to do that is to compact your folders [under File]. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Bill Spikowski wrote: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it Bill, when you receive mail, it all goes into the "inbox". The "inbox.msf" is the index file for "inbox". When you delete an email or move it to another folder, a copy(original) stays in the "inbox" file, just you don't see it. To get ride of all the hidden emails, select File->Compact Folders and all the old messages will be removed, just leaving those that you want to stay in the "inbox". Note:- if you have sub-folders of your inbox, they will also be taking up space, and this may show up as "inbox" space as well!! HTH Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36:19 PM, and on a whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it Hi Bill, Right click on the folder and select, "Compact". When message come in and are removed, unless you configure an auto-compact, the old messages still remain in the folder. They're just "marked" as deleted until you compact. I prefer doing it manually rather than having the program do it. Me too. Don't forget to mention that "cleaning" a 1GB will take a "certain" time :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts "Me". When I go into the sent folder and do a view -> message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been converted to text). However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line is MISSING. Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and it becomes very hard to read. OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE" From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla- Keys: Message-ID: [omitted] Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400 From: [omitted] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv: 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To:[omitted] Subject: This Week... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example. I do your test. It seems that only you have a problem ... My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look Subject: TEST CONVERSION Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2 X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!""i!!joZ"! OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. Bill Have you compacted your inbox folder lately? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote:
Hi Daniel - Thanks for dropping in. If you look back at the last 50
or so responses, about 1/2 are devoted to reasons why I have problems
sending in plain text. SM doesn't convert it properly all the time,
if I send in a proportional font, I want people to read it in a
proportional font, etc. I won't repeat what I've already written.
but you do not determine how I (or anyone) see things!!
A;ll your mates might have their systems set up to convert all the
emails they receive to plain textso your sending things in HTML,
etc, might just be a waste of your time and the internet's bandwidth!!
To be honest, if the people who do SM are starting to enforce their
religious preferences, it may be time to find a different mail client.
8-{
/j
and please have the curtsy to leave some of the material to which you
are responding in your reply!!!
Daniel
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Re: Inbox.msf
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:36:19 PM, and on a whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it Hi Bill, Right click on the folder and select, "Compact". When message come in and are removed, unless you configure an auto-compact, the old messages still remain in the folder. They're just "marked" as deleted until you compact. I prefer doing it manually rather than having the program do it. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
Bill Spikowski wrote: My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others are using the mailing lists Yeah - I got that now "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html." This is a false statement. again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email True statement: "If you choose to send in HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will convertto plaintextand send plaintext". maybe it is and maybe its not Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is the single, correct behavior. This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/and request for such an item Did so long ago -- We did some testing on this some time back and found that Moz clients require at least one HTML element to send as HTML (10-07-08 in MTMM). It can be done by creating a Template to use for your email and then insert a simple HTML code in body using the HTML Editor (Insert, HTML for TB). Or configure your sig file as HTML. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hostperm.1 and permissions.sqlite
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:05:59 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: SM 1.1.15 Is anyone else having a similar problem: you have something opened, like SM Mail. You click on compose, and you have to wait and wait and wait. The task manager says the program is not responding. After a minute, then the compose window opens and everything is back to normal, until you open something else. You could open the browser, or bookmark manager, or whatever, and you just wait. I've tracked mine down to hostperm.1. If I close the program and remove it, then reopen and things work great again. I've noticed the same problem with FF3. When I click to open it, it would take a few minutes. I could click on it again and a window would open. I would close that, and the original click would finally open. I removed permissions.sqlite and things would be back to normal. So, anyone else having any similar problems? I haven't noticed any issues with hostperm.1. I have found that the constant sqlite updating of so many files in FF causes a lot more issues than it's worth IMO. I don't think most users need the repeated updating of the 6 files. On one network I admin, all laptop users stopped using FF3 because the backup software wasn't configurable enough to exclude all the sqlite files, and the backup was constantly writing to the server and bogging down the performance. So it was a double whammy, constant sqlite updating and constant backing up. On another network, I was able to set up a FF profile in the backup software and exclude the sqlite files from updating constantly during the day, but have them backup once on shutdown. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Inbox.msf
My "Inbox.msf" file is about 3KB but my "Inbox" file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the "Drafts" file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
On Mar 30, 5:41 pm, Leonidas Jones wrote: > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > > > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > >> On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo > >>> again, others have asked that you email them an html > >>> message and then we'll go from there, and so far you > >>> have failed to do that. > > >> I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email > > > I think you're using that as an excuse as some have told you to email > > them, as I did: > > news://news.mozilla.org:119/plodncayp5myflbunz2dnuvz_jila...@mozilla.org > >http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_threa... > > My email is valid here. > > Lee sent to you too ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
I agree that, for any message, if you take select Options -> Format -> send as Rich Text. It will travel as HTML. My request is a way to make this the default (i.e., override AutoDetect as the default in Options -> Format). I will now send you an email that, even though is composed as HTML, and Sent as HTML (as per the options in Preferences - Send Format), you will receive as plain text. /j On Mar 30, 5:32 pm, "Moz Champion (Dan)" wrote: > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > > On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo > > wrote: > >> googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > >>> Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was > >>> trying to be space efficient. > >> not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. > >> Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others > >> are using the mailing lists > > > Yeah - I got that now > >>> "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be > >>> sent as html." > >>> This is a false statement. > >> again, others have asked that you email them an html > >> message and then we'll go from there, and so far you > >> have failed to do that. > > > I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email > >>> True statement: "If you choose to send in > >>> HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will > >>> convertto plaintextand send plaintext". > >> maybe it is and maybe its not > > > Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this > > statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is > > the single, correct behavior. > >>> This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion > >>> be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. > >> we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and > >> file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/andrequest > >> for such an item > > > Did so long ago > >> -- > > Well, when I Send a message from a HTML enabled account, in justtext, > no html specifics, AND choose, send as HTML, it is received as the font > I sent it in (proportional) > > If it had been 'converted' then I would have received the monospace > version (plaintext). > > So for me, if I choose to send in html (only), then that is what is sent. > > my email is above, is attached to every post I make > moz.champ...@sympatico.ca > > so send me a html formatted email, with no html objects/features in it > already. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
hostperm.1 and permissions.sqlite
SM 1.1.15 Is anyone else having a similar problem: you have something opened, like SM Mail. You click on compose, and you have to wait and wait and wait. The task manager says the program is not responding. After a minute, then the compose window opens and everything is back to normal, until you open something else. You could open the browser, or bookmark manager, or whatever, and you just wait. I've tracked mine down to hostperm.1. If I close the program and remove it, then reopen and things work great again. I've noticed the same problem with FF3. When I click to open it, it would take a few minutes. I could click on it again and a window would open. I would close that, and the original click would finally open. I removed permissions.sqlite and things would be back to normal. So, anyone else having any similar problems? -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email I think you're using that as an excuse as some have told you to email them, as I did: news://news.mozilla.org:119/plodncayp5myflbunz2dnuvz_jila...@mozilla.org http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/1fdacc790be26a1/dcb360180d9f94b6?q=#dcb360180d9f94b6 My email is valid here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others are using the mailing lists Yeah - I got that now "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html." This is a false statement. again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email True statement: "If you choose to send in HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will convertto plaintextand send plaintext". maybe it is and maybe its not Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is the single, correct behavior. This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/and request for such an item Did so long ago -- Well, when I Send a message from a HTML enabled account, in just text, no html specifics, AND choose, send as HTML, it is received as the font I sent it in (proportional) If it had been 'converted' then I would have received the monospace version (plain text). So for me, if I choose to send in html (only), then that is what is sent. my email is above, is attached to every post I make moz.champ...@sympatico.ca so send me a html formatted email, with no html objects/features in it already. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email I think you're using that as an excuse as some have told you to email them, as I did: news://news.mozilla.org:119/plodncayp5myflbunz2dnuvz_jila...@mozilla.org http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/1fdacc790be26a1/dcb360180d9f94b6?q=#dcb360180d9f94b6 -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > > Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was > > trying to be space efficient. > > not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. > Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others > are using the mailing lists > Yeah - I got that now > > > "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be > > sent as html." > > > This is a false statement. > > again, others have asked that you email them an html > message and then we'll go from there, and so far you > have failed to do that. > I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email > > > True statement: "If you choose to send in > > HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will > >convertto plaintextand send plaintext". > > maybe it is and maybe its not > Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is the single, correct behavior. > > > This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion > > be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. > > we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and > file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/and request > for such an item > Did so long ago > > -- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others are using the mailing lists "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html." This is a false statement. again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. True statement: "If you choose to send in HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will convert to plain text and send plain text". maybe it is and maybe its not This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and file a bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ and request for such an item -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0
On 03/30/2009 11:34 AM, Bob Barrett wrote: > I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in > /usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the > first start as root, I get this error: > > ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. "If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html." This is a false statement. True statement: "If you choose to send in HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will convert to plain text and send plain text". This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. Thanks! /j On Mar 30, 2:22 pm, "Moz Champion (Dan)" wrote: > googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: > > I wish Mozilla did allow me a choice. No matter how hard I try to > > have messages go, by default, in HTML. Mozilla looks at them and says > > "yeah, plaintextis good enough" and converts them. > > > that's the problem. > > > All I'm suggesting is an OPTION to disable the auto-conversion. I > > can't believe how many people here don't think options are good. > > > /j > > If you dont quote previous messages, all context is lost > > If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent > as html. > > If you further refuse to quote previous context, there is no choice but > for me to ignore your messages thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 1.1.15 can't find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in Debian 5.0
I have installed seamonkey-1.1.15.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz in /usr/local/seamonkey/ on a new installation of Debian 5.0. Trying the first start as root, I get this error: ./seamonkey-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file \ or directory locate libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1200.11 ls -l /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 ... /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1200.11 So, libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 is a link to libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1200.11, but Seamonkey cannot find it. There's no mention of libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 in /usr/local/seamonkey/, it only calls seamonkey-bin. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: I wish Mozilla did allow me a choice. No matter how hard I try to have messages go, by default, in HTML. Mozilla looks at them and says "yeah, plain text is good enough" and converts them. that's the problem. All I'm suggesting is an OPTION to disable the auto-conversion. I can't believe how many people here don't think options are good. /j If you dont quote previous messages, all context is lost If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html. If you further refuse to quote previous context, there is no choice but for me to ignore your messages thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts "Me". When I go into the sent folder and do a view -> message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been converted to text). However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line is MISSING. Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and it becomes very hard to read. OUTPUT OF "VIEW -> MESSAGE SOURCE" >From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla- Keys: Message-ID: [omitted] Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400 From: [omitted] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv: 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To:[omitted] Subject: This Week... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't "IN", please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
I wish Mozilla did allow me a choice. No matter how hard I try to have messages go, by default, in HTML. Mozilla looks at them and says "yeah, plain text is good enough" and converts them. that's the problem. All I'm suggesting is an OPTION to disable the auto-conversion. I can't believe how many people here don't think options are good. /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Yes - putting stuff in every message that forces the converter to say "send in HTML" is a common workaround that a lot of people do (see the original thread I referenced at the top of this one). Having a fancy HTML signature also works as a workaround. In fact, it looks like the workarounds are going to be the solution because no one wants to make things right. Has anyone looked through their own sent folder to see if all their converted multi-paragraph non-HTML messages converted properly? THAT's your test case. I have not been able to figure out why it does paragraph breaks correctly sometimes and not others, that doesn't meant there isn't a deterministic problem, I just can't identify it. However, that's not the point. The point is that I want my Email to be read in HTML when I send it in HTML. If I use a proportional font I want the reader to see a proportional font, etc. If you post and say "Since -one- (only one) of the reasons you want to do this is to fix a bug you can reproduce, we're going to ignore all the other reasons" then your religion is showing. Sad thing that 8-} /j Spammers would love it if the author could pre-determine how the recipient reads email. The fact is, the author has little or NO control over how the recipient will read his messages. Some programs (Pine comes to mind) don't read HTML at all, they are plain text only. Most modern email or news programs can display either plain text or HTML, but at the recipients decision. Mozilla products allow you a choice even in HTML, original HTML or simple HTML. There is no means of you ensuring anyone to read it the way you intended, they will read it in the means they have preset their email (or news or even web browser) to display. That may be plain text, html, simple html, html with javascript, without javascript, with their choice of fonts (or not), in colour or in black or white, the choice is up to the reader, the recipient, NOT the author. Only send HTML to those who have requested such. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM2 does not offer to remember passwords
I recently changed the password on one site which was on my managed passwords list. So I used the password manager to delete that entry, as it would pop up with the old password filled out. However I do want the new password to be remembered by SM, and now when I log in at the site it never offers to remember the password. I have set cookies to be accepted for the site, javascript is ON, popups are permitted (in case SM would use that to ask me to save the password). SM (I'm having this on two different machines, one running 2.0a3 and the other running 2.0 b1, both show the problem) never offers to save my password. In preferences the option to save passwords is ticked ON as well. What am I missing? Thanks in advance. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
Yes - putting stuff in every message that forces the converter to say "send in HTML" is a common workaround that a lot of people do (see the original thread I referenced at the top of this one). Having a fancy HTML signature also works as a workaround. In fact, it looks like the workarounds are going to be the solution because no one wants to make things right. Has anyone looked through their own sent folder to see if all their converted multi-paragraph non-HTML messages converted properly? THAT's your test case. I have not been able to figure out why it does paragraph breaks correctly sometimes and not others, that doesn't meant there isn't a deterministic problem, I just can't identify it. However, that's not the point. The point is that I want my Email to be read in HTML when I send it in HTML. If I use a proportional font I want the reader to see a proportional font, etc. If you post and say "Since -one- (only one) of the reasons you want to do this is to fix a bug you can reproduce, we're going to ignore all the other reasons" then your religion is showing. Sad thing that 8-} /j ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
BeeNeR schrieb: On or about 3/30/2009 4:22 AM, Martin Feitag typed the following: Terry R. schrieb: Well, you pipe in sooner next time with your perfect explanation of a program that isn't included with Windows. And if you already know how to do it, why are you reading this at all? Terry R. Sry, was not meant as an offense. I was just refering to keep it at a safe place for the future (as I'm a lazy guy not willing to type much ;-) ) I also did not want to say your guide has no "right to exist" I just wanted to add how it can be even easier/more comfortable IF he had IrfanView or sth similar. My thank you was real :-) Martin And, as with SeaMonkey, Irfanview is FREE! Ed well it's not OpenSource like SM afaik, but a freeware though ;-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
On or about 3/30/2009 4:22 AM, Martin Feitag typed the following: > Terry R. schrieb: >> >> Well, you pipe in sooner next time with your perfect explanation of a >> program that isn't included with Windows. >> >> And if you already know how to do it, why are you reading this at all? >> >> Terry R. > > Sry, was not meant as an offense. > I was just refering to keep it at a safe place for the future (as I'm a > lazy guy not willing to type much ;-) ) > > I also did not want to say your guide has no "right to exist" I just > wanted to add how it can be even easier/more comfortable IF he had > IrfanView or sth similar. > My thank you was real :-) > > Martin And, as with SeaMonkey, Irfanview is FREE! Ed -- All mail is checked by avast! Antivirus Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ If we quit voting, will they all go away? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: SM doesn't convert it properly all the time, If you cannot furnish a testcase to reproduce the problem, nobody will be able to solve your problem. But i repeat if you position your preference to send only in html - and if you at least put an html stuff into your mail(per exemple, use an automatic signature in html format) ... SM WILL NOT convert your message in plain text. So you don't care about a possible bad conversion. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
Terry R. schrieb: Well, you pipe in sooner next time with your perfect explanation of a program that isn't included with Windows. And if you already know how to do it, why are you reading this at all? Terry R. Sry, was not meant as an offense. I was just refering to keep it at a safe place for the future (as I'm a lazy guy not willing to type much ;-) ) I also did not want to say your guide has no "right to exist" I just wanted to add how it can be even easier/more comfortable IF he had IrfanView or sth similar. My thank you was real :-) Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.a3 Mismatched domains
Leonidas Jones schrieb: I have a question about mismatched domains in SM 2.0.a3. I have set up two accounts with same news server, one with the actual name, and another with the numbered IP address. This allows me to set up different groups for different purposes in the two accounts. This is on a secure server, so, of course the cert causes an error for the numbered IP account. In SM 1.1.x, I had a choice of View Cert, Cancel, of OK to accept the cert. In SM 2.0.a3, I have only the option to View, or Cancel, making it impossible to view the groups. Is there some way to get the OK option back. At the present, I am using TB 2.0.0.21 to view the account. Lee => Preferences => ...Privacy... => Certificates => Manage Certificates => "Server" tab => Add Exception Martin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: open jpg attachment
Mike C schrieb: How do I get SM mail to open a JPG attachment with Windows Picture and Fax Viewer or Microsoft Office Picture manager. You might want to try to define an App in the Preferences => Browser? (might be other name in SM1.1.x) => Helper Applications Is that viewer your standard-application for jpg-files in Windows? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
