RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina?

2014-02-12 Thread pico
Yes, Albina is actually not so uncommon in some places, like Terceira.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina? From: "Richard Francis Pimentel"

[AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families

2014-02-13 Thread pico
, it seems, and just give up and don't list the parents when they are clearly written in the marriage record.I have been working a lot on the Ribeiras, Pico records where there is that very large gap in the marriages of the 1700s. This gap has led to so many mistakes by NEPS.And where is the logic

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-15 Thread pico
I have serious doubts that the translation of caboqueiro, cavoqueiro, cabouqueiro means they worked in mines.I have checked several of my marriage databases for the various Pico and Terceira villages where they list the occupations of the groom and it seems to me the definition we should

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-15 Thread pico
hecked several of my marriage databases for the various Pico and Terceira villages where they list the occupations of the groom and it seems to me the definition we should be applying is one more like the laborer working in the fields and digging the dirt. Maybe it could also apply to someone digg

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-15 Thread pico
..@dholmes.com Date: Sat, February 15, 2014 10:33 am To: azores@googlegroups.com I have serious doubts that the translation of caboqueiro, cavoqueiro, cabouqueiro means they worked in mines.I have checked several of my marriage databases for the various Pico and Terceira villages where th

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-15 Thread pico
m: p...@dholmes.comDate: Sat, February 15, 2014 10:33 amTo: azores@googlegroups.com I have serious doubts that the translation of caboqueiro, cavoqueiro, cabouqueiro means they worked in mines. I have checked several of my marriage databases for the various Pico and Terceira villages where they

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] @Doug Holmes

2014-02-16 Thread pico
ng at Lake Tahoe today. His email addressis hol...@dholmes.com Lionel On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Doug, Please email me re our Joao Goncalves Santana Marie Rodrigues from Sao Roque do Pico. I’ve been verifying stuff from the NEPS site and I have som

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio da Rosa (Roza) Maciel (Marcial) baptized Nov 1860, S. Mattheus Magdalena, Pico

2014-02-18 Thread pico
Hi Manny,Again, I was wondering how I missed messages about Pico families, and just now realized these are really old messages you are quoting while you dig through the archives of this list.I started to think something was wrong. :-)If I'm not mistaken, this person, Anne, knows quite well about

[AZORES-Genealogy] Joe Machado Silva Maria Augusta from Angra, Terceira

2014-02-19 Thread pico
connections, but you might not be that far back yet. And I see I need to look more closely at your Pico connections to see if we also link there.Just wondering.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message

[AZORES-Genealogy] Joe Machado Silva Maria Augusta from Angra, Terceira

2014-02-19 Thread pico
connections, but you might not be that far back yet. And I see I need to look more closely at your Pico connections to see if we also link there.Just wondering.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Americanized: John Harris

2014-02-20 Thread pico
Liliana, If it's Areia, look for "d'Areia" or "da Area" and maybe in Calheta, where I found some who are originally from Piedade, Pico. Calheta is where my own Areia family is from. Maybe we're related.You might consider getting the Family Finder DNA test, too. I have wr

[AZORES-Genealogy] Corvelo of Terceira

2014-02-21 Thread pico
Hi Tony,I don't know where you're stuck, but I can tell you I know of several named Corvelo (you will see them as Corvello most of the time in the Terceira records, as you know) who were born in the 1500s.So if you are stuck after that, sometime in the 1600s, then it will be just a waste of time

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Corvelo of Terceira

2014-02-22 Thread pico
Tony,It's a mixture of "important" families and not so "important." Maybe a better term should be "leading" families.Like always, verify everything you can, because I found major mistakes on Simas in Pico and Rocha in Terceira and I don't have them, so can't check o

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio da Rosa (Roza) Maciel (Marcial) baptized Nov 1860, S. Mattheus Magdalena, Pico

2014-02-22 Thread pico
o it would be no surprise to see one person listed as Antonio da Rosa without Maciel.I didn't yet look at the family you described, but there are lines of people on Pico who used "da Rosa Maciel" for many generations. Not all are from the same family, because they arrived at that comb

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviation-da Roxa

2014-02-22 Thread pico
Hi Diane,Roxa is an often-used alternate spelling.Yea, Roxa could trick someone to think Rosa. Just another reason to do your own research.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject:

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borges Toste, born early 1900s somewhere on Terceira

2014-02-23 Thread pico
Hello Tiffany,I know this family.You can contact me in private at this address:terce...@dholmes.comDoug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borges Toste, born early 1900s

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family

2014-02-24 Thread pico
Eric,I was thinking the name might be Abreu.What do you think of that?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family From: "luiznoia ."

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]. New Study--Percentage of Jewish ancestry among Iberian population

2014-02-24 Thread pico
Hi Will,I'm sorry, but it must have been many years ago and I don't remember our discussion.I see you have Pico ancestors, and that could be a link, but I don't have any known ancestors from Arco da Calheta. I do have close relatives who were born in Arco de Sao Jorge, Madeira. And I found

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family

2014-02-24 Thread pico
I never heard of the name ABRAO. Is it found anywhere in the Azores?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family From: "luiznoia ."

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Fayal family

2014-02-24 Thread pico
5 - Azores RESIDENCE: New Bedford, Bristol, MassachusettsEric On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:13 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I never heard of the name ABRAO. Is it found anywhere in the Azores?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Origin

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreu from Flamengos, Fayal

2014-02-25 Thread pico
Nancy,Did you realize this Caetano de Sousa is actually from Pico?I probably won't be able to prove it, but there is a decent chance I'm related to him.I don't remember. Are we showing as related from Family Finder? If so, maybe this is the link.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RELIGIOUS NAMES

2014-02-28 Thread pico
Actually, some adult men did use only these devotional names.One popular example is Nascimento, such as Jose do Nascimento. It usually starts because they were born or baptized on or near Christmas day. And this one quite often becomes a surname in subsequent generations.Santos can start by birth

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] widower marries within three months

2014-02-28 Thread pico
So did he marry her?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] widower marries within three months From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Fri, February 28, 2014 6:47 pm

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] widower marries within three months

2014-03-01 Thread pico
I've never seen such a thing before.I half way thought you were kidding.1 2 grau da afinidade.I will have to pay close attention to this and see if I can find another example.What year was it? And I'd love to see the record.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Distant Family Finder cousin match to Denmark on Family Tree DNA

2014-03-03 Thread pico
Hello Maria Natalia,I have something similar in my Family Finder matches.One person seems to have nothing but Australian ancestors, but there is one unknown father in their line. So I suggested to them the possibility that somewhere in my ancestry there was a son or grandson who was a whaler who

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Distant Family Finder cousin match to Denmark on Family Tree DNA

2014-03-03 Thread pico
Cheri,That works only on the ones I am also related to. If you are a match to them, the matches would not show when I run that, since we don't show a match on the Family Finder test. But if Rosemarie were a match to them and since I also match Rosemarie, then yes, that would show.Come to think of

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hmm

2014-03-04 Thread pico
in those records. There was an exposto from Terceira that I recall in the 1700s. And some named Terra moved there from Faial in the 1800s, I believe. My Madeira cousins have a remote link to Pico in the late 1700s. Actually, I have far more records of Madeirans moving to the Azores.Doug da Rocha

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cuba

2014-03-05 Thread pico
Funny you mention that.My 2nd cousin h as a mother born in Cuba, but all her ancestry is from the Canary Islands.He also has some matches to some with Azores ancestry.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cuba

2014-03-05 Thread pico
the warm climate?Just this week someone in Panama has been in contact with me and I've done research for someone there with Pico ancestry.My own cousin's connection to the Azores came as a big surprise, because it must come through his mother's Canary Island or his father's Mexico/Spain roots.I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] pictures

2014-03-06 Thread pico
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] pictures From: Manuel Martins kambb...@gmail.com Date: Thu, March 06, 2014 7:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I will be in Pico in June, I can swing by Piedade and take photos, do you have a particular location there? As for Cedros, I can go across to Faial

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Crovelle

2014-03-08 Thread pico
I think others would tell you the name was Corvelo/Corvello and that name is found on Flores.It's also on Terceira, but probably unrelated at least until you get back to the 1500s. That's impossible on Flores.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Matches to Mexico

2014-03-09 Thread pico
originally from Pico. I have no idea who it is, but assume a relative. Eric EdgarOn Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Antonio Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: I have taken the family finder test match someone whose ancestors are from Mexico particularly from Nuevo Leon I am of 100% Portugues

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Matches to Mexico

2014-03-10 Thread pico
I often found Duarte from Faial. Is that their origin?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Matches to Mexico From: "luiznoia ." noblankt...@gmail.com Date: Sun, March

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Two ship manifests from Sao Miguel

2014-03-10 Thread pico
Just a guess, but perhaps it was because they also picked up some materials to take from Horta to Angra.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Two ship manifests from Sao

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Joe aka Joao Ignacio aka John Enos - Seattle Empire Hotel

2014-03-10 Thread pico
Yes, interesting.I am distantly related.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Joe aka Joao Ignacio aka John Enos - Seattle Empire Hotel From: Marilyn Thompson

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Joe aka Joao Ignacio aka John Enos - Seattle Empire Hotel

2014-03-10 Thread pico
I was looking more closely and maybe this isn't the same person I thought.But the stories are very similar. Portuguese man married a native American/Indian, and lived in British Columbia, Canada, a big success, known as Portuguese Joe.If you're reading this, Manuel, is this the same person I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Joe aka Joao Ignacio aka John Enos - Seattle Empire Hotel

2014-03-10 Thread pico
Yes, at least two.The one I am thinking about was known as #1, at least that's what I was told.I have no idea who decided who got what number.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Rosa Duarte of Madalena, Pico

2014-03-10 Thread pico
: "luiznoia ." noblankt...@gmail.com Date: Mon, March 10, 2014 8:50 am To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com JOSE ROSA DUARTEborn 25 Feb 1884 in Madelena, Pico, Azores Islands, Portugal (Source: Shiplist Madonna 15 Oct 1913.), and died 30 Jul 1953 in Merced County, California. He marri

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico

2014-03-10 Thread pico
, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel d'Avila de Bettencourt, Lajes do Pico From: Manuel Martins kambb...@gmail.com Date: Mon, March 10, 2014 8:00 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hello,Does anyone have

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Rosa Duarte of Madalena, Pico

2014-03-11 Thread pico
hunch was right that his Duarte might come from Faial.He probably knew his father.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Rosa Duarte of Madalena, Pico From: "lui

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unfamiliar Surname - HOMEM

2014-03-15 Thread pico
HOMEM is common on Pico and Terceira.HOMEM da COSTA is a common combination.I get my name Holmes from Homem. It is commonly misspelled as HOMEN because when properly pronounced the end has sort of a ENG or EN ending. Plus, the H is silent, so the whole thing is like OMENG or OMEN. I'm sure

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unfamiliar Surname - HOMEM

2014-03-15 Thread pico
It just occurred to me that maybe some named Homem did change it by translating the name to MANN.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unfamiliar Surname - HOMEM From:

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Documentation of CCA Images

2014-03-16 Thread pico
Denis,In regards the CCA, it has already changed one time since they created it.I have many invalid URLs from that time.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re:

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

2014-03-16 Thread pico
Lisa,Look for Pico passengers departing from Horta.Those from Terceira and S.Jorge, as well as Graciosa, depart from Angra.Neither is online yet.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Documentation of CCA Images

2014-03-18 Thread pico
Another factor is that if you are lucky enough to encounter an index, you must know what 94V means, or just 94 (they don't use R for front in any church indices I have ever seen). And if you want a response from the archive if you ever send them a letter request, knowing the page as they describe

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism

2014-03-19 Thread pico
y are also the padrinhos, but could be wrong in this assumption. Maybe someone can chime in about this if they know for certain.I remember one of my ancestors was baptized at home in Sao Roque do Pico in the middle 1700s. So it surely doesn't mean these children didn't survive. They just got off

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

2014-03-20 Thread pico
The only guarantee the grandparents were listed was on 1 July 1860 forward.But many started before that. Sometimes even the latter 1700s.On Madeira, it is normal to list them in the 1700s, even for marriages. And I have seen that on the mainland, too.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obito records

2014-03-21 Thread pico
Paul,The margin lists the deceased.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obito records From: Paul pagome...@comcast.net Date: Thu, March 20, 2014 10:40 pm To:

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

2014-03-22 Thread pico
Hello Joseph,I couldn't resist your challenge.What is clear is the "ao" ending. That leaves one with a lot fewer choices for names.Expanding on that, it is pretty clear there is an "l" before the "al" and that now gives you "lao" and once you see that, you can see the "u" before the "l" and before

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

2014-03-22 Thread pico
Joseph,How about the fact the baptism is for a child of Matias and the mother is not listed with Pacheco/a?I have sometimes seen a father listed as Mathias one time and Matheus another time. So if your ancestor was Mateus, you can't 100% rule out you could find him as Matias, but it will depend on

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

2014-03-22 Thread pico
Joao da Costa? I assume you know Joam and Joao are the same name. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't r

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

2014-03-23 Thread pico
But Joseph, how did you learn the parents of Mateus da Costa without first finding his marriage record?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

2014-03-23 Thread pico
Also, Joseph, the thing to do is keep looking for children of both couples. See if there is anything that would eliminate them as the same people. Look for all godparents and see if any or all are the tios.Plus, you can see if the names found at marriage are in the ancestry of the parents you

[AZORES-Genealogy] occupation = Lutador

2014-03-25 Thread pico
I would love to hear the opinion of some native speakers about my ancestor from the 1600s whose occupation is mentioned as "lutador."It is defined as fighter or wrestler, but in a society (Terceira) where people are more concerned with feeding their families than entertainment, could this really

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] occupation = Lutador

2014-03-25 Thread pico
That's certainly possible. But it is also certainly not one that was passed down to anyone, not that it must be.I am hoping he was really a bull fighter. That would be very interesting.I wonder when that started on Terceira.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira

[AZORES-Genealogy] names at baptism

2014-03-25 Thread pico
It has been mentioned many times that is most cases, only the first name is listed at baptism in the Azores.So it struck me today while researching on the mainland that in the records I'm viewing, 1885-1886, almost every child is listed with their first two

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] occupation = Lutador

2014-03-26 Thread pico
ha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the bl

[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder matches

2014-03-26 Thread pico
I have been checking my and my father's Family Finder matches and noticed there are many new matches that are actually dated as much as 3 years ago.Seems to me that they went through everything and changed their criteria as to what is a match.One strange thing is that I am matching two people

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder matches

2014-03-27 Thread pico
Hi Cheri,Well, that's a surprise about matches for me and not my parents, but sure makes sense.About the "new" matches, here is what I noticed and you can explain it any way you want.Starting from about last summer, I always made it a point to check in once or more each month and every match to me

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luiza de Jesus of Pais incognito

2014-03-28 Thread pico
One thing you might be able to do, if she had any daughters, and if these daughters had any daughters who are living to this day, is get the mt-DNA test and maybe somehow, someone in the future will match and you can find that one maternal line.Also, the Family Finder test will register her DNA,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luiza de Jesus of Pais incognito

2014-03-28 Thread pico
Maybe the reason expostos used the baptism date as the birth is that when abandoned, it would be no more than a day before they were baptized. If abandoned in the dark or after midnight, the following morning they would be baptized.Of course, if the baby was kept for a few days before abandonment,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soutomaior / Souto Maior as a name

2014-03-30 Thread pico
on Pico, too.I think you'll see it in early Velas records, too. And also in early Topo and Ribeira Seca.Souto is common on Faial, usually as "do Souto" but might have some connection to the other name.Another spelling variation is Sotto-Maior. Sometimes it's Sotto-Mayor.Doug da Rocha Holmes

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Pedro Miguel

2014-03-30 Thread pico
The parish name is Nossa Senhora da Ajuda (Our Lady of Help), just like the parish in the village of Prainha do Norte on the island of Pico.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Antonio, son of Manoel

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions of genealogists

2014-03-30 Thread pico
What time span were they having children (the years) do you think?Look before and after the date of that marriage and when you find one baptism, compare the names of the padrinhos to the parents listed in that marriage. If one of the aunts or uncles was a padrinho/madrinha, then you have the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions of genealogists

2014-03-31 Thread pico
That's why I asked for the years.You will have a much easier time verifying the marriage is correct, because they always list the grandparents in each baptism from the time period you mentioned. At least, they do in the Azores records. And I think most everywhere else in the Portuguese speaking

[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA from parents

2014-03-31 Thread pico
I just wrote a long and detailed message to my cousins in an attempt to convince some to get DNA testing and one of the points I brought up was the fact that we don't all get the same DNA from our parents which is proven because my nephew from my sister has at least one or two matches to people

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no DE Something surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread pico
In regards the word "apelido" you will find natives in the Azores use it to also mean "alcunha" because that's exactly what I found on my two visits there. But when I inquired further, they did agree that nickname is better translated as alcunha.In regards "da" and other surname prefixes, when I

RE: _[AZORES-Genealogy]_Parishes_surrounding_Fajã_de _Baixo,_P.D.

2014-03-31 Thread pico
These maps were created years ago by a volunteer named Ana Ghia-Pereira who has mainland ancestry and resides in Toronto and I doubt is on this list, but was on the old Portugal List on Rootsweb about 10 years ago. She did a wonderful job and so if you ever encounter her in the future, you can

[AZORES-Genealogy] Free database access Pico Terceira

2014-04-01 Thread pico
Today only:You will see the link from this page:http://www.dholmes.com/rocha1.htmlEnjoy!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of Alferes

2014-04-01 Thread pico
That's just how Portuguese grammar works.It's always "o capitao" and "o sargento" etc.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message It is curious that the priest wrote "THE ALFERES". As if the person were the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftdna in common with

2014-04-01 Thread pico
Hi Judy,I just answered your email to me with that question.Yes, it's there under the names of your matches, on the far right icon.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] ftdna

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bishop Myron Cotta

2014-04-02 Thread pico
Sort of, Helen.Before Doze Ribeiras changed from just an ermida to a freguesia, it was part of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, as you probably know. Mine are from Santa Barbara.I was wondering why you asked, so I noticed one of your husband's Cota lines and I can't yet prove we are related by

[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

2014-04-02 Thread pico
Well, some people's hunch was right.While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the Graciosa baptisms for Santa Cruz:http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspxDoug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com

[AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe, Graciosa online

2014-04-02 Thread pico
Well, some people's hunch was right.While not yet working at this moment, they are attempting to upload the Graciosa baptisms for Guadalupe:Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-04-02 Thread pico
They wrote "mais ou menos" nearly 100% of the time, so I don't see it as a case where the priest didn't care.You can also look at that in another way - it might be how the priest viewed their condition or how old they looked. If someone who was really 85 was estimated to be 70yrs or so, then that

[AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

2014-04-02 Thread pico
I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the oldest of our list members.It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already had a big party on Sunday.Happy Birthday, Dad!Doug da

[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Pioneers of the Sacramento Area - now in reprint

2014-04-02 Thread pico
I just learned last night at the PHCS meeting that my father's book, Portuguese Pioneers of the Sacramento Area, is now in reprint again. It is soft cover (the original was hard bound) and I think I heard it costs $30, but you'll have to confirm that with my father or Mary Ann, our president (I'm

[AZORES-Genealogy] Rogers family from Newcastle, California

2014-04-02 Thread pico
Hi Diane,I am pretty sure your Noia family is from Flores.Is your Rogers family from Criação Velha, Pico?If so, then I suppose Aileen Gage is your cousin?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Wedings 1849-1859 0038 - Help!

2014-04-03 Thread pico
Hello Angela, Seems this must be your direct paternal line of Loura.There is a dot above and below the name about half way through which makes me think one letter is c cedilha and there is an i in there.The name looks like Ferminiana de Jesus. But that possible cedilha might be a line from a faint

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Henriques on Pico

2014-04-03 Thread pico
you:www.dholmes.com/rocha1.htmlDoug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Henriques on Pico From: Liliana Harris lilianah...@gmail.com Date: Thu, April 03, 2014 11:52 am To: azores

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Last name of the father of the groom (Jacome?)

2014-04-03 Thread pico
In case anyone doesn't already know, this name is also a given name.My second cousin has the name Jácome.As a surname, it is also found on Terceira as far back as the early 1500s.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

2014-04-03 Thread pico
What happened is that only the link was established, but when you clicked on that link there was just an error. It was for Guadalupe, not Santa Cruz as I first stated by mistake (because it was in the concelho de Santa Cruz).And the same happened for Sao Pedro, Santa Maria. They had all links for

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito - Marriages (1708-1751)

2014-04-04 Thread pico
Yea, Ricardo.It happens to all of us 100% of the time, eventually.Just think how disappointing it would be if any of your ancestors came from Bandeiras, Pico where the records START in 1850. There are some villages on Flores where it's just a little before that.But have you already found all

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism from Ponta Garca

2014-04-05 Thread pico
If I might offer a slight clarification, 1st degree of consanguinidade is brother/sister.Of course, you don't see that, but do see 1st and 2nd degree, which is uncle/niece, as Cheri stated.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com

[AZORES-Genealogy] first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread pico
Of course. And that's why you don't ever see a 1st degree connection getting married.Frankly, it's surprising to me 1st and 2nd degree was ever allowed. Maybe it was a way to generate more money by the church, so they allowed it? I'm assuming they had to pay a bigger fee for dispensation, but it's

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread pico
I won't believe that until I see it.I think it must have been 1st and 2nd mixed - uncle/niece.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] first degree of consanguinity From:

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread pico
I suppose the logic in Hawaiian royalty was that they were superior to begin with, so marriage to another such superior person couldn't help but produce more superior offspring.But I have never once seen any example of royal marriages to siblings. I think in Catholic countries, they would never

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread pico
of property.So it's something related to the social class and family wealth. Some of the more successful of my Pico ancestors have some descendants who married cousins related in up to three different ways. I'm sure most researchers have run across a couple related in something like the 2nd degree

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The grooms father and the bride's mother

2014-04-07 Thread pico
I agree. We also see Gracia instead of Garcia, Graviel instead of Gabriel, Breatis rather than Beatriz, etc.It makes me wonder if that's really how the pronounced it, too.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message

[AZORES-Genealogy] exorcism at baptism

2014-04-08 Thread pico
Dano,I've encountered the mention of exorcism at baptism countless times. Maybe 10,000? I have no idea.I haven't paid attention to the time period, but know it's in the 1700s when the wording got more verbose. Maybe also 1800s.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

2014-04-09 Thread pico
And not just links that don't work!I think by tomorrow, all the baptisms for Guadalupe will be available.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ArquivosVisit-Ponta-Delgada-São-Miguel

2014-04-11 Thread pico
No, Joao, not just you. I was wondering the same thing.If I had the chance to make another visit, I'd be looking at things that are not available to me any other way. Maybe passports are coming eventually, but I would be looking there if I were in any hurry for the info.Doug da Rocha

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA researcher's list

2014-04-11 Thread pico
Hi Eliseu,I have some remote Graciosa ancestors. Mine are Vaz Sodre from Praia in the late 1500s.So I would be curious as to what you're putting together and you can add me to the list.Obrigado,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Bettencourt

2014-04-11 Thread pico
Bettencourt is quite a common Portuguese name and is found in every island of the Azores.So chances are not good that any two random Bettencourt families are closely related.But in theory, they certainly would be. It would be a connection from maybe 400-500 years ago.Doug da Rocha

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA researcher's list

2014-04-11 Thread pico
a DNA connection to some people, even though it's a little unlikely, since it comes from my Terceira ancestry with little or no amplification of DNA from cousin marriages, unlike my Pico ancestry.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Orphanage Records

2014-04-12 Thread pico
Hi Marilyn,What information do you get from a blessing record?Thanks,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Orphanage Records From: Marilyn Thompson

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name Check on Baptism Record - Joaquim 1831, Topo, Sao Jorge

2014-04-13 Thread pico
Justina is right, Steve.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name Check on Baptism Record - Joaquim 1831, Topo, Sao Jorge From: Steve woodrowme...@gmail.com Date: Sun,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

2014-04-13 Thread pico
I recently learned that one of my cousins on my German/Hungarian/Slovak side married into a family with Azores ancestry.Just this morning I discovered that family came from Pico da Pedra in the concelho de Ribeira Grande which is going to be the very last one put online by the CCA.In any case, I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name Foster in USA-what might it have been in the Azores?

2014-04-13 Thread pico
Yea, I am certain that must be from Faustino, a common name on the island of Sao Jorge.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name "Foster" in USA-what might it have

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family

2014-04-14 Thread pico
Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra, Sao Miguel family From: "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" eliseuman...@gmail.com Date: Mon, April 14, 2014 4:24 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug!If you have a very specific question on your Pico da Pedra ones (as

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