On May 27, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Jeff Gimzek wrote:
Obviously I will be trawling the IxDA site and BoxesandArrows for
this sort of argument, but I was also wondering if anyone has a
similar case study that they would care to share/point me to?
Marketing Sherpa (cleverly
On May 24, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
Usability equals predictability.
As in, if you can accurately predict what's going to happen next in an
interaction, it's because the action you're taking is
understandable, clear,
logical, makes you feel confident, etc. If you can
On Jun 5, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Wendy Goodfriend wrote:
Can anyone direct me to research discussing the advantages and
disadvantages of using one vs two email fields? I am also looking
for inline validation code that addresses the one vs two field issue
as well.
I haven't seen anything
On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Jason Zietz wrote:
What would you call Current Design in this example?
Invisible.
Jared
Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about lest the SS come to my house.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Will Evans wrote:
Why would any one of us have to bow out to discuss this. It's
ludicrous.
Last I checked - even with the current administration - most
be food, drinks, and door prizes, along with great
discussion and probably some funky music. It will be great fun.
We hope to see you there,
Jared Spool
Jared M. Spool
User Interface Engineering
510 Turnpike St., Suite 102, North Andover, MA 01845
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +1 978 327 5561
http
On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
When creating great experiences, it's not so much about doing what
users
expect. Instead, it's about creating a design that clearly meets
their needs
at the instant they need it.
The article makes a clear case for this statement in the
On Jun 9, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
It's not so much that the Save Now button do what users expect.
It's that it do what users need, which, if I'm not mistaken, is to
save the stuff now.
It's possible I'm just overanalyzing your statement, but when I read
it initially,
On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Kontra wrote:
I assure you if I walked into the lawyer's offices over at Google,
Yahoo,
Adobe, Microsoft, or pretty much any major Silicon Valley company and
informed them that people were discussing and posting patents on
it, this
distribution list would
On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Christopher Fahey wrote:
For those concerned about the legal ramifications of exposure to
competitors' patents, the best solutions seem to be:
1) Quit the list.
2) Quit your company (or client).
Oh, that's just silly.
There's lots of stuff we don't discuss
On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Kontra wrote:
I am completely sympathetic to the what-you-don't-know-can't-be-
made-into-incuplatory-evidence train of thinking.
Therein lies the issue: what-you-don't-know. Not being on a mailing
list that once in a clear blue sky may reference patents is no
On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
I thought this would play into your Activity-Centered Design mantra.
After all, understanding user expectations would require studying
users, which I thought was against the rules of ACD.
There are no rules. I've talked to users to
On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
The difference is also a mindset difference. Instead of focusing on
goals and such, I focus just on the details of the activity—how it's
performed, how it breaks down into tasks and actions and operations,
etc. The distinction may be
On Jun 16, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Liou Yamane wrote:
I have encountered the following problem several times at my current
job as a IxD-er without finding a satisfying solution:
What to do when a search is executed with no input, thus an empty
search query? Concretely, this means hitting the
On Jun 15, 2008, at 7:23 AM, AmirBehzad Eslami wrote:
What articles have written on this
subject?
In 1997, my colleagues and I wrote an entire book on the subject:
http://tinyurl.com/4hx9sz
How do you evaluate websites if you're in hurry?
It's simple. There's only one question: Can the
On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Paolo Passeri wrote:
I'm trying to find good interaction design, innovation, prototyping,
usability...podcasts!
You can find our podcasts at http://www.uie.com/brainsparks/topics/podcasts/
I'd like to think they are pretty good...
Jared
Jared M. Spool
User
On Jun 16, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Leah Buley wrote:
Ok, so maybe a full blown thesaurus is overkill for an office supply
site. But you can't convince me that alphabetical order is obsolete.
No, it's not obsolete.
However, it *is* akin to random order.
There are few exceptions where
.
There will also be food, drinks, and door prizes, along with great
discussion and probably some funky music. It will be great fun.
We hope to see you there,
Jared Spool
Jared M. Spool
User Interface Engineering
510 Turnpike St., Suite 102, North Andover, MA 01845
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +1 978 327 5561
On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Diana Wynne wrote:
I rely on alphabetical order at the bookstore and the library. Makes
me crazy trying to find non-fiction titles when I don't understand
the classification system (oh, this is California history, not
travel).
Oh, really? I've never seen an
On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:08 PM, Jeff Howard wrote:
One of the best reasons I know of to use an alphabetical organization
is where egos are concerned--specifically to avoid the appearance of
priority when listing names. In that case it's akin to random; the
names have to be in _some_ order and it
On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Guillermo Ermel wrote:
I'm assisting the design team to create an e-commerce website. The
website has a few hundred items, with the typical product-category
left navigation bar in the home page and listings page, with 10 to
20 categories and probably
On Jun 22, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Adam Connor wrote:
here's a brief post on Google's Usability Lab over at TechCrunch.
Not a lot of info, but in case anyone is interested:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/22/a-peak-inside-googles-usability-lab/
Yah, this is just one lab.
There's several.
Damn.
I'm so glad I didn't get sucked into this discussion.
Since my name was cited in the original post, I did want to suggest
that I've been talking about this problem for years.
Most recently, I wrote about it here:
Surviving Our Success: Three Radical Recommendations
On Jul 2, 2008, at 5:47 AM, dave malouf wrote:
To me that doesn't say anything bad about the process. Heck, Apple
has had a slew of failures. Fail big! is a designers mantra. Just
bounce back and keep going!
Apple's Board of Directors wasn't completely replaced.
WSJ: A lot of changes are
One of the major chains (I think it was Westin, Hyatt, or maybe
Intercontinental) was using slo-mo ad campaign they've been running to
show how soft their beds are.
I'd check with your ad guys before you invest in that route...
Jared
On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:31 AM, John Gibbard wrote:
The
On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Meredith Noble wrote:
Does anyone have any examples of web apps that use HUDs or Heads-Up
Displays to give the user feedback?
I'm talking a really light HUD here - basically a little rectangle
that
comes up in the middle of the screen after the user completes
On Jul 3, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Elizabeth Buie wrote:
Me, I would state it outright: Error messages are *not* the correct
way to teach them.
Yes, but nothing says Don't press that button better than a couple
of electrodes emitting 10,000 volts. They won't make the mistake
again, I tell
On Jul 6, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
Should the persuasive elements of a site design be left to marketers?
It's curious to me that you immediately equate persuasive elements
with marketing. Design (good or bad) is *all about* persuasion.
Helping a user to see and click on
On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote:
Granted, most of the marketers I've seen couldn't market their way
out of a
cardboard box. But they should know a lot about persuasion, no?
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
People who aren't good at what they do produce crappy
They are not blog specific, but check out:
http://www.searchme.com
and
http://www.spacetime.com
Both use cinematics transitions, like coverflow does.
And for all of you who think that apple invented the coverflow look,
think again. It was prominent in a video called the Web Book by Stu
On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Elizabeth Parham wrote:
I have to do a proposal including timings for a solution in which
there will
be 300 end users of a new system aimed at improving efficiency in
the work
place by using technology where before things were done on paper or
over the
phone.
[Apologies for duplicated posts]
Based on many of the conversations we've had on this list, I know
there's tremendous interest in in-depth seminars on interaction
design, information architecture, and design strategy. These are just
a few of the things we've put on the program for UI13.
On Jul 23, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Christian Crumlish wrote:
I also accept that language drifts and even terms of art can change
and the
success of the pattern meme is going to tend to lead to watering
it down,
but I'm nonetheless going to try to hold the line on this
distinction for
now, as I
On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:20 AM, matthew Smith wrote:
How would you best describe what Pattern Tap showcases? What language
would you change or redefine? I'd be interested to see how we can
gaurd those terms well, and honor the work of folks like yourself,
while hopefully at the same time,
On Jul 27, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Jessica Enders wrote:
As a matter of best practice, should forms on the web be designed
to look like their paper equivalents? Why/why not?
My take is simple:
The question is irrelevant.
In fact, you could as a similar question that would be equally
On Aug 7, 2008, at 8:44 AM, dave malouf wrote:
Wow! it's 2003 all over again. Tog's original post that inspired
this organization called on us to be architects. our entire first
6 months of discussions on this list was about why we are designers
and not architects. ;-)
I refuse to repeat 6
On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:19 AM, alan james salmoni wrote:
Just out of curiosity Sam and Jamie (and anyone else), if you were
given just 5 seconds to pitch UX to someone in a company, what would
you say?
Working hard to eliminate frustration from technology and make it all
delightful.
On Aug 14, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Denton, Gretchen wrote:
OMG. Are you a socially irresponsible iPhone user?!
The question was what I did now that I didn't do before. I was always
socially responsible. The iphone lets me be more socially
irresponsible in new ways. It's been a growth
On Aug 15, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Patrick Barrett wrote:
What I think is most interesting about this straw poll is the number
of respondents who choose not to follow these simple instructions:
What are the top *3 things* you find yourself doing now with your
iPhone
If people on this list
On Aug 15, 2008, at 4:16 PM, G. Jason Head wrote:
Interesting enough it has to do a bit with the user interface on the
PNC Virtual Wallet site:
The site features several orange balls used to highlight products and
services PNC offers. ING alleges that PNC's use of the orange balls
could
Charles B. Kreitzberg, Ph.D.
CEO, Cognetics Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jared
Spool
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:49 PM
To: G. Jason Head
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] ING sues
On Aug 15, 2008, at 8:53 PM, John Vaughan wrote:
Cool.
The usual flock of parasitic sheissters manages to engineer yet
another
frivolous lawsuit.
So now we can't use round orange shapes
Um, no.
You just can't use round orange shapes to represent elements of a
financial services
On Aug 16, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Jenny Wallace wrote:
this actually reminds me of something i brought up to my manager
yesterday.
i remarked that i wonder if it will ever be the case that companies
will
trademark things such as their taxonomy. for instance - i could steal
shopping.com's
On Aug 18, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Alan Wexelblat wrote:
You would be free
to use that taxonomy, provided you did not copy other protected
elements, such as visual design - which is what I think the
subject-named case is about.
The ING / PNC trademark case is about the brand representation
On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/15/AR2008081503367.html
Discuss.
What aspect would you like to discuss?
I think that it sucks, because I enjoy Pandora and Last.fm (which I
assume will fall prey to the
Having spent a ton of the last 10 years of my life studying the
usability of e-commerce sites, I can tell you that it's impossible to
discern usability without understanding the goals of the business.
It's possible that Ralph Lauren won't measure the success of this site
in revenues
Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover
(where G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school)
and I drive through the campus every day, I can say they do wear
exactly this wardrobe.
I'm going to bet that the kids aren't necessarily the buyers in
logos students could wear was the school one. No doubt the uniform
is required.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Being that my offices are a stones throw away from Philips Andover
(where G. Bush Sr., Jeb Bush, and G. W. Bush Jr. all went to school
On Aug 24, 2008, at 6:16 AM, Rob Enslin wrote:
I'm questioning the value (to the website users) of having a permanent
count-down clock on the website?
Put it in the top 15% of the home page. Nobody ever looks there. It's
the perfect place to put things you don't need your users to see. :)
On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Robert M. Fein wrote:
Does anyone know of a reputable (to ad buyers and marketers)
usability report stating that users scroll? and that being below the
fold doesn't hurt click thru or uptake (or at least much)?
Don't know about it being reputable.
But it's
More insight on what they're trying for:
http://www.internetretailer.com/article.asp?id=27601
Rugby.com, up until now a brochure site, joins RalphLauren.com as the
retailer’s second e-commerce site for apparel and accessories. The
site will provide several interactive Web 2.0 features,
On Aug 29, 2008, at 5:56 AM, Sonal Nigam wrote:
I would like to know about the drop down values for the forms that I
have
been creating recently. The values are only Yes and No for the
dropdowns
varying from 5-9 in number in a single form. I just want to know how
best it
is to
On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Pravat Ranjan wrote:
I would like to post some of my questions to answer. Please let me
know how
could I post my questions in IXDA discussion.
You just did.
Do it again.
Jared
Welcome to the
On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
True. But the entire web has been like that up to this point. What
people make for Chrome by nature works for the other browsers. So
there'll be nothing inherently unique for it near as I can tell. The
question will seem to ride on
On Sep 3, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Trost Ann-Marie wrote:
I'm doing a UX project pitch to a bank. It includes going mobile.
Right now, our ppt. is a little flat and wondered if you all might
have a jazzy, shazam point or two that has been effective. Our case
studies are solid but just no pop
On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
I think this is a key point. I expect that AIR and Chrome are
signaling a major change in capabilities for developers.
Interaction designers need to be on top of this, so they can be
there to help make great designs. Otherwise, we'll
On Sep 4, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Dave Malouf wrote:
I should never have to see anything by a reference that says,
Gmail. This is just like what is on my desktop that says
Outlook.
AIR does this, why shouldn't chrome?
Gears does this too. That means Chrome does it.
Jared
I'm so different than you guys. I had immediately come up with a
Summer Glau joke and thought, no... I shouldn't.
On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Sterling Koch wrote:
Same here.
The lesson for all usability peeps is, of course, to disuade clients
from naming their products after tv shows
For anyone interested in trying to revive the IxDA dead horse called
Google Chrome, Steve Gillmor had an excellent interview with the
product manager and UI developer. Lots of things we discussed here
were talked about in the interview, confirming my thinking on where
they are going.
On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
That's where the breakdown occurs for me. Web apps currently work in
an SDI mode, and a fairly limited SDI mode at that. You can't take
over the keyboard interaction, you can't make floating palettes or
slave windows that are aware of
On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:41 PM, Daniel Szuc wrote:
What if Chrome was simply a stepping stone towards a Google OS?
What if some of the principles in the Google apps to date suggest not
having to rely on the need for deeper functions?
One trend is to be able to serve up applications that have a
On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Will Evans wrote:
I would stay away from comic sans, even if completely appropriate for
the medium, message and audience if for no other reason than to avoid
the scorn of visual and graphic designers. It has, justly or not,
acquired the patina of peewee herman
On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:47 AM, Yohan Creemers wrote:
Font-sizes are easy to test in a usability test and easy to adjust to
the test results.
This is where one of the big benefits of remote testing come through:
You can see the user's screen and browser configurations, to see if
they have
On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:09 AM, David Malouf wrote:
So no one has still convinced me that FB is obsolete.
I don't think Facebook is obsolete. (I don't even know what obsolete
means in this context. Is eBay obsolete? Amazon?)
I do think that Facebook has yet to produce a meaningful business
On Sep 21, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Jarod Tang wrote:
A more interesting model maybe, use the relationship as a foundation
of some service, instead of make money directly on it, like, interests
group (music experience sharing, other stuffs, ...), and it's more
solid to build some bussiness on, by
On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Todd Moy wrote:
Let's assume I gave the participant the task of finding the hardcover
book Owls of North America by John P. Author. For simplicity's sake,
the only navigation entries available are the following facets:
Subject, Author, and Format. The participant
On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Kontra wrote:
I do think that Facebook has yet to produce a meaningful business
model.
And this is a huge problem.
Wasn't for YouTube. Or Skype. Or MySpace. Etc.
Looking for multimillion-dollar pay-off problems?
Yah. Skype's worked out real good for eBay.
On Sep 21, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Krystal R.Higgins wrote:
Out of curiosity, what's the best revenue-producing social
networking site model (MySpace) so far?
eBay and Amazon.
Jared
Welcome to the Interaction Design Association
On Sep 22, 2008, at 5:34 AM, David Malouf wrote:
But Jared, those are businesses that have ADDED social networking
(especially the Amazon case) as a means of adding value to their core
commerce business.
I don't know what added means. eBay, from day 1, had their community
and reputation
On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Will Evans wrote:
There is a difference between sites that are Social Media Sites, and
those that are Social Networking sites, although some do both. To
the degree that a site encourages basic user generated content, but
little else (ratings, comments,
On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Brett Lutchman wrote:
thank you for your private message.
And thus ends another episode of As The List Churns.
Tune in next week, when we'll hear David say, ... but design is more
important than sex!
On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Christine Boese wrote:
What if the whole idea of a revenue model is the wrong question?
Coming in
from left field here, but does anyone ask, What is the revenue
model of the
Boston Commons? The town square?
I see.
So the $496,000,000 that has been poured
On Sep 22, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Fredrik Matheson wrote:
In my view, Facebook is an elegant ruse. On the surface, it's a
social
utility that connects you with the people around you. Further down,
it is
more likely a machine that motivates regular people to connect,
converse and
share, and
On Sep 23, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Kontra wrote:
Are you saying Skype is/was a pyramid
scheme because they sold to eBay? Even if the scheme of the
founders and
shareholders were to sell their company to a larger entity as soon
as they
can?
With what they know today, do you really think eBay
On Sep 23, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Brett Lutchman wrote:
Google has no plans on making an immediate profit off of the
companies they
absolve.
They are buying out all major 'virtual domain' property and services.
I have no idea what that actually means.
Apparently, not a disciple of Webster.
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Brett Lutchman wrote:
Ahh! I see! In my church the word literally means To own.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Tim Au Yeung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The confusion doesn't stem from the concept (which is merely
Nowadays, people assume absolve means being 'forgiven', but it
actually doesnt.
And by people, you meant every dictionary. http://tinyurl.com/3kggqo
Ok. Let's say absolve means to own in your galaxy. I still have no
idea what you're talking about.
Jared
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:41 AM,
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 PM, Kontra wrote:
With what they know today, do you really think eBay would make the
same
investment again?
So now all MA has to be done under 20/20 vision? Some business
decisions go
south. Imagine that!
Ok. So where is Facebook going? Is it purely a flip
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Will Evans wrote:
Has anyone else read Amy Shuen's Web 2.0: A Strategy Guide and her
discussion about Facebook and the the monetization of user generated
value streams on social networks? For those interested - it does
provide a good understanding about
Interaction design is hard enough to do when the business model is
clear. When the designer knows exactly how making a better design will
increase the value of the company, (thereby increasing the chances
they'll get a raise if they do a good job,) it's still hard to know
what to do.
All
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Kontra wrote:
Google extracts value out of mining network effects (PageRank) which
is
increasingly the primary source of revenue for smart companies.
FaceBook has
in just a few years managed to create the largest social network. If
you
don't think that's going
You can take the admin rights out of the boy, but you can't take the
boy out of the admin role...
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:40 PM, David Malouf wrote:
Hi everyone,
When it comes to IxDA as of Feb '08. I'm a nobody. I have no access to
anything technical or official in any capacity what so
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Catriona Lohan-Conway wrote:
http://www.nationalgridfloe.com/
Anyone know who did it? LBI London?
Looks like Mullen here in the states.
http://adsoftheworld.com/media/online/national_grid_floe
Jared
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Gloria Petron wrote:
by Alissa Walker*
*
*Show's over, kids! Design conferences have become exercises in
regenerated,
wasteful spectacle. A self-described conference junkie shows us how
to bring
back the magic.*
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:27 PM, mark schraad wrote:
That's odd. Over the last 10 years we have seen exactly the opposite.
In spite of better software, making the capabilities more available,
deep expertise is valued more in the marketplace than more general
skillsets... at least at the tactical
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:16 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote:
On Sep 25, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jared Spool wrote:
I wrote about this years ago in a piece called Specialists vs.
Generalists
So what would have to say about generalists who have expertise in
more than one area? Would you call
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Catriona Lohan-Conway wrote:
question is do you use the same presentation 21 times ;-)
Oh, I wish. That would make it so much easier.
No, I tend to create 10 or so new ones every year. I travel with 25 GB
of presentation files. Sigh.
Fortunately, I tend to
Hah! It's a chinese curse scenario (be careful what you ask for
because you might get it)
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:56 PM, mark schraad wrote:
show off
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Jared Spool wrote:
Boy, what I would give to get my annual schedule *down* to only 21
conferences
Really nicely put, Jonas. I think you're right on the money.
This one point jumped out at me:
On Sep 26, 2008, at 3:12 AM, Jonas Löwgren wrote:
- I think there is a difference between adequate and outstanding
interaction design ability.
This is true, no matter what you're talking about.
the text:
We have cats the way some people have mice.
to which the reply is:
So I see. However, I cannot tell from your communication whether you
are seeking advice or just boasting.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Gloria Petron
On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Sachin Ghodke wrote:
There is this new trend of getting the site map below the fold by
listing all the links in the web site but to me i see no point of
doing this if the site as perfect navigation.
Exactly right.
There's a general perception that users *want*
On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Danna Hudson wrote:
There is this new trend of getting the site map below the fold by
listing all the links in the web site but to me i see no point of
doing this if the site as perfect navigation.
The main reason I as an IxD add navigation as text links in the
On Oct 1, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Paul Eisen wrote:
There's a general perception that users *want* global navigation, but
if you spend any time watching folks on sites, you quickly realize
they are *only* interested in local navigation -- how do I get from
*here* to *where I want to be*?
So, any
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, Kontra wrote:
All this depends, unfortunately, on the definition of what a site
map is.
No, not really, since the user doesn't have a definition to work from.
They only have an expectation based on what they think they'll get
when they click on the link.
On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:18 AM, John Gibbard wrote:
Hmm, my only further addition to this would be to say what *harm* does
it do to have both a well-thought out primary nav and a strong global
footer? It's a safety net after all and if it adds any sense of
'completeness' what's a few pixels at the
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Guillermo Ermel wrote:
What do you people think about the use of theses diagrams to
introduce usability in the design and develpment process?
Guillermo,
Personally, I think you're probably asking the wrong question.
I'd like to know more about where this
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Sachin Ghodke wrote:
What I now feel, I should stick to after reading all this, I would now
use SiteMap only while discussing internally the
structure/skeleton of the website. This will provide my peers and
bosses the overview of the website and what shape its
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Benjamin Ho wrote:
We're having our annual user conference very soon and we're looking
to have an interactive component to our presentation at the end
where our users are asked to do something.
As for that certain something, we're not sure yet what to do.
We
On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Paul Eisen wrote:
Jared said:
Yes, but that's a problem with research. Perfect research (which,
like
anything perfect, is only an ideal) would anticipate all the needs
and
inform the design thusly.
Well, if we're going to get purist, then I'd contend after
On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Kontra wrote:
All this depends, unfortunately, on the definition of what a site
map is.
No, not really, since the user doesn't have a definition to work
from.
Did you even read what I wrote?
Yes.
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