[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [...] Many times a day I will juxtapose two complete opposites in my mind, the intellect will try for a resolution, going deeper and deeper,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:08 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: It's odd. If Maharishi's so right-wing how come almost everyone connected with him in the West leans so far left? It's a strange thing. It is. It's just the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Even newer file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Rick, Can we assume, since these files do not show up in the Files section, that this is yet another attempt by Tom to get FFL kicked off of Yahoo? If so, it's an interesting (if mentally disturbed) tactic -- accuse a group of being a porn shop and plant the evidence yourself. I think that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, when and where did you meet Brahmananda Saraswati face-to- face? *Paradoxically* I never had the slightest

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All valid observations and insights that you need to temper your own experience with, not deconstruct the validity of another's experience. You can only talk about what you experience, not another. True, but I think you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All valid observations and insights that you need to temper your own experience with, Actually all of the questions I wrote: the inner

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Before you desparaige someone, check you got the right person. The author of the following is Jim Flanegan not me! Yes. Funny what a process that is- engaging with a guru, and coming to terms with who he or she is, vs who we want them to be. *Paradoxically* I never had the slightest

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Before you desparaige someone, check you got the right person. The author of the following is Jim Flanegan not me! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you desparaige someone, check you got the right person. Nonsense...you've *always* got the right person. Everything you do, you do to yourself. - some scripture or another :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Interesting to see how casually 'sparaig' disparagues another without bothering to check his facts. I have experienced this clumsiness before when he misquoted from a book I wrote which he admitted he had never read. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Thank you Turq, I seem to remember a news report about one of ZZTOP shooting himself in the foot, literally. Maybe the scripture you quote is by Billy Gibbon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason

[FairfieldLife] question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread at_man_and_brahman
My question is at the bottom In Paul Mason's book, he writes: Rumours have also circulated about another aspect of his 'private' life, about the presence of members of the family holding posts in his various organisations. The following report is said to have been carried by The

[FairfieldLife] COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread cardemaister
Conan O'Brien must have lived in (Sweden-)Finland in some previous lifetime. Otherwise his obsession with Finland is unconceivable! (Finland was a part of Sweden for several hundred years up to 1809.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Dying to be thin?

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
'There is a tradition in India not to talk about a saints life' ?? What evidence is there for such a preposterous statement? Actually, it is BECAUSE India has a tradition of talking about the lives of 'saints' that we know so much of the lives of so many so- called 'saints' from Shankara to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting to see how casually 'sparaig' disparagues another without bothering to check his facts. I have experienced this clumsiness before when he misquoted from a book I wrote which he admitted he had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Turq, I seem to remember a news report about one of ZZTOP shooting himself in the foot, literally. Maybe the scripture you quote is by Billy Gibbon. He was probably trying to twirl his six-shooter

[FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conan O'Brien must have lived in (Sweden-)Finland in some previous lifetime. Otherwise his obsession with Finland is unconceivable! (Finland was a part of Sweden for several hundred years up to 1809.) And then

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'There is a tradition in India not to talk about a saints life' ?? What evidence is there for such a preposterous statement? Actually, it is BECAUSE India has a tradition of talking about the lives of

[FairfieldLife] Happy Christmas in Britain

2005-12-15 Thread Jason Spock
Opinion - Leader Page Articles Celebrating Christmas by other names Hasan Suroor In Britain, there is an increasing and misplaced emphasis on multiculturalism in a way that does it more harm than good. SO, IS it Christmas? Or is it not Christmas? Many

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
From what I gather Paul/Saul distorted Jesus's teaching and presented the world with the 'religion of suffering' which should rightly be called Paulianity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
You seem to have changed your tune, only yesterday condemning the editing of lifestories! Okay, so where is the evidence for any tradition not to talk about a saints life? Puzzled of UK --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conan O'Brien must have lived in (Sweden-)Finland in some previous lifetime. Otherwise his obsession with Finland is unconceivable!

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to have changed your tune, only yesterday condemning the editing of lifestories! Okay, so where is the evidence for any tradition not to talk about a saints life? Puzzled of UK My comment was

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Now I understand, stating the obvious is presented by you as a 'gratuitous slam'? Has the TMO re-absorbed you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I understand, stating the obvious is presented by you as a 'gratuitous slam'? Has the TMO re-absorbed you? Not at all, Paul. I *appreciate* your attempts to present a more balanced view of Maharishi's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread Peter
--- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, after a war, Finland became an autonomic part of Russia until the Russian Revolution 1917, during which V.I.Lenin gave independence to Finland. Oddly enough, nowadays the only active Lenin museum is situated in my home town!

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
I was totally unaware that my attitude had been discussed recently on FFL. Just goes to show! I write a book about the life and teaching of a contemporary thinker, and a newsgroup indulges in discussing my motives. Barry, read the book, take me to task on the contents, if you wish, but don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, after a war, Finland became an autonomic part of Russia until the Russian Revolution 1917, during which V.I.Lenin gave independence to Finland. Oddly enough,

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was totally unaware that my attitude had been discussed recently on FFL. Just goes to show! I write a book about the life and teaching of a contemporary thinker, and a newsgroup indulges in discussing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread Peter
You seem to approach Realization as some sort of intellectual exercise. You seek conceptual consistancy and coherence like it was some sort of waking state intellectual product. You're not going to find that. While there is comminality to realization, there is also difference. The difference is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread Peter
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, after a war, Finland became an autonomic part of Russia until the Russian Revolution 1917, during which V.I.Lenin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to approach Realization as some sort of intellectual exercise. You seek conceptual consistancy and coherence like it was some sort of waking state intellectual product. Why the surprise? That is exactly how it

[FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
Oddly enough, nowadays the only active Lenin museum is situated in my home town! http://www.lenin.fi/uusi/uk/ Maybe you guys can take the waxed-up body of Lenin from the Russians. They want to get rid of him. Waxed up? I know a surfer who might take him. His

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cultsim and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread Vaj
On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:27 PM, qntmpkt wrote:---But there's no rule written in stone that Enlightenened people may not talk about anything.  HWL Poonja talked about it quite a bit, including his experiences with Ramana Maharshi. He also has some interesting comments on Maharishi.  His excellent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread Vaj
On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:53 AM, anonymousff wrote:The self-proclamation part has always struck me as odd. Linked to the absolutist interpretations of what IT IS. As if there is some insecurity. THIS has to be IT. And odd that there are strong mandates of how IT can be spoken of. And how IT cannot.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting to see how casually 'sparaig' disparagues another without bothering to check his facts. I have experienced this clumsiness before when he misquoted from a book I wrote which he admitted he had

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to have changed your tune, only yesterday condemning the editing of lifestories! Okay, so where is the evidence for any tradition not to talk about a saints life? Puzzled of UK By bias, could

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread Vaj
On Dec 15, 2005, at 7:34 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: You seem to approach Realization as some sort of intellectual exercise. You seek conceptual consistancy and coherence like it was some sort of waking state intellectual product. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to have changed your tune, only yesterday condemning the editing of lifestories! Okay, so where is the evidence

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I understand, stating the obvious is presented by you as a 'gratuitous slam'? Has the TMO re-absorbed you? Not at all,

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to have changed your tune, only yesterday

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to approach Realization as some sort of intellectual exercise. You seek conceptual consistancy and coherence like it was some sort of

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Judy and more balanced, less TB individuals have pointed out, sometimes you reveal a 'tude, a 'tude that I think is regrettable,

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Judy and more balanced, less TB individuals have

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is writer's ego privileged? Especially when a writer--at least a published one--is in a position to influence large numbers of readers? Writer's ego is not privileged, just understood. :-) As for influencing

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
So, as ever, a topic is derailed. MMY can disparage whosoever he pleases, cos he gets the slack. His lectures, his tapes, his videos can get edited to make him sound more balanced, but woe betide it if the bedfellow talkingheads from AMT detect a trace of irritation when I suggest that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: The British in India

2005-12-15 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000

[FairfieldLife] Good News! New DNR rule - Urgent deadline

2005-12-15 Thread Dick Mays
Title: Good News! New DNR rule - Urgent deadline Friends, I've just written a brief email, at the bottom, and emailed it to the addresses below. Please help keep Fairfield water free of contamination by doing the same. Thanks! Dick Mays Dear JFAN friends, We're very pleased to give you this

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, as ever, a topic is derailed. MMY can disparage whosoever he pleases, cos he gets the slack. His lectures, his tapes, his videos can get edited to make him sound more balanced, but woe betide it if the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultsim and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly ego driven bullshit. Yes, though we may differ on the source. Que? I honestly don't understand your remark.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, as ever, a topic is derailed. MMY can disparage whosoever he pleases, cos he gets the slack. His lectures, his tapes, his videos can get edited to make him sound more balanced, but woe betide it if the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
You don't seem t be a fellow who parctices what he preaches. = All valid observations and insights that you need to temper your own experience with, not deconstruct the validity of another's experience. You can only talk about what you experience, not another. And certainly don't expect

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And two, it is a healthy thing to do in speaking about it [enlightenment] as if it is just another experience. Because it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And two, it is a healthy thing to do in speaking

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY-bashing non sequiturs designed to make readers think Barry actually answered the questions Ahem...Barry *intentionally* answered no questions, because he's consciously trying not to get sucked back into an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: To me, the latter is far more effective and inviting. And it doesn't have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff

[FairfieldLife] M.A. Center Donates $1M to Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

2005-12-15 Thread Rick Archer
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051213/cgtu050.html?.v=37 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Dying to be thin? Anorexia. Narrated by Julianne Moore. http://us.click.yahoo.com/abEMxA/sbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am too prone to the poetic. I thought Its a HOLLOWED OUT, CRYSTALINE matrix, a unique TRANSPARENT tapestry woven from the RESIDUE of thousands of lives, ... made the empty shell idea of roasted smaskaras clear. Perhaps its an

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY-bashing non sequiturs designed to make readers think Barry actually answered the questions Ahem...Barry *intentionally* answered

[FairfieldLife] Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis The young lady in question said it was her experience that her mind was never going to figure it out. Not Now. Not ever. Sorry, I misread that very last part of the letter. I thought you were commenting that her mind was

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY-bashing non sequiturs designed to make readers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am too prone to the poetic. I thought Its a HOLLOWED OUT, CRYSTALINE matrix, a unique TRANSPARENT tapestry woven from the RESIDUE of thousands of lives,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am too prone to the poetic. I thought Its a HOLLOWED OUT, CRYSTALINE matrix, a unique TRANSPARENT tapestry woven from the RESIDUE of thousands of lives, ...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am too prone to the poetic. I thought Its a HOLLOWED OUT, CRYSTALINE matrix, a unique TRANSPARENT tapestry woven from the RESIDUE of thousands of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis The young lady in question said it was her experience that her mind was never going to figure it out. Not Now. Not ever. Sorry, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY-bashing non sequiturs designed to make readers think Barry actually answered the questions Ahem...Barry *intentionally* answered

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
Its sort of sad people are so vested in explaining other people's motives and experiences. I suggest you take the words of a wise man to heart. = All valid observations and insights that you need to temper your own experience with, not deconstruct the validity of another's experience. You can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am too prone to the poetic. I thought Its a HOLLOWED OUT, CRYSTALINE matrix, a unique TRANSPARENT tapestry woven from the RESIDUE of thousands of lives, ...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Vaj wrote: Each darshana has it's own internal logic. If knowledge is structured in consciousness then each darshana/View relating to a specific state of consciousness will be unique but appropriately descriptive of that state. It's fashionable, esp. among paths that are incomplete

[FairfieldLife] The cutting room floor

2005-12-15 Thread ultrarishi
Speaking of edited versions of MMY's lectures, etc... A number of years ago I was watching a video on KSCI with Maharishi rambling on about some topic that now escapes. What captured my attention was that it appeared MMY's last meal apparently didn't agree with him, so there would be these

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jim_flanegin wrote: enlightenment does not adhere to ANY tradition. It is what it is. Period. I've been given to understand that enlightenment changes quite a bit from one spiritual tradition to another. I'm told, for instance, that Buddhists disagree with Hindus on key points, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: COB and F-land?

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conan O'Brien must have lived in (Sweden-)Finland in some previous lifetime. Otherwise his obsession with Finland is unconceivable! (Finland was a part of Sweden for several hundred years up to 1809.) Well, he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am too prone to the poetic. I thought Its a HOLLOWED OUT, CRYSTALINE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: enlightenment does not adhere to ANY tradition. It is what it is. Period. And your detailed study of enlightenment traditions include which cultures?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Anonymousff wrote: If on the otherhand, you beleive Dr. Stuphens points are wrong and you are making universal claims about all others' experiences, then the follow-up post to this on Cultism and Free Seekers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip He is just pissed off and frustrated in general that his enlightenment eludes him, and chooses to take it out on anyone who brings up the topic. I can relate, and I'm sure you can too, Peter. Before such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The cutting room floor

2005-12-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of edited versions of MMY's lectures, etc... A number of years ago I was watching a video on KSCI with Maharishi rambling on about some topic that now escapes. What captured my attention was that it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
Its also entirely possible that some people simply are not pissed off. Or even frustrated. But for Jim perhaps, its a strange unbelievable phenomenon, not having experienced it apparently. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cultism and Free Seekers

2005-12-15 Thread Vaj
On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: Each darshana has it's own internal logic. If knowledge is structured   in consciousness then each darshana/View relating to a specific state   of consciousness will be unique but appropriately descriptive of that   state. It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is just pissed off and frustrated in general that his enlightenment eludes him, and chooses to take it out on anyone who brings up the topic. I can relate, and I'm sure you can too, Peter. Before such a

[FairfieldLife] Apologies to Dr. Sutphen - spelling error

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
I have been quoting you as Dr. Stuphen. Sorry, I should have checked the spelling before citing you -- in what I think is a great quote. (cant deconstruct others experiences I found my spelling error in doing a google search of you to see whcih university you teach at. Even Google appears to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies to Dr. Sutphen - spelling error

2005-12-15 Thread Peter
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been quoting you as Dr. Stuphen. Sorry, I should have checked the spelling before citing you -- in what I think is a great quote. (cant deconstruct others experiences A common mistake. You should see how my students spell my name. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin snip his enlightenment eludes him A sign of great writing is you can read it over several times and find great new gems. Jim, I admire your enlightenment tradition, what ever it is, for such unique view of enlightenment, distinct from any

[FairfieldLife] Judy and TorquiseB

2005-12-15 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies to Dr. Sutphen - spelling error

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
Thanks. I have also referred to you as Dr. PS. I hope that is a comfortable moniker for you. But, I do pray to God that your middle inital is not M. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been quoting you

[FairfieldLife] Christ All Mighty

2005-12-15 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis The writer looking out through these eyes is that Brahman. Speak for yourself Tom, not for me, your pal Braaahmaan. I grant you authority to speak of your own experiences. And your own interpretation of your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread at_man_and_brahman
FFL is wasted by all the eternal bullshit between people exemplified by the thread following my original posted question. I asked a direct and worthwhile question about Maharishi's family that, of course, was ignored in favor of people being pointlessly hateful with each other. I'll ask my

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL is wasted by all the eternal bullshit between people exemplified by the thread following my original posted question. Yes, the exchange this morning appeared even more bizzare than usual. It reminded me of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ All Mighty

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis The writer looking out through these eyes is that Brahman. Speak for yourself Tom, not for me, your pal Braaahmaan. I grant you authority to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin snip his enlightenment eludes him A sign of great writing is you can read it over several times and find great new gems. Jim, I admire your enlightenment

[FairfieldLife] Re: question about Maharishi's brothers, for Paul Mason or others

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi's Brother is said to be 97, alive and kicking. He was recently seen this past Oct 12th on victory day on the broadcast from the globalcountry of World peace. He told a friend privately that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: enlightenment does not adhere to ANY tradition. It is what it is. Period. I've been given to understand that enlightenment changes quite a bit from one spiritual tradition to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ All Mighty

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis The writer looking out through these eyes is that Brahman.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ All Mighty

2005-12-15 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis The writer looking out through these eyes is that Brahman.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your mind is never going to get MMY. Never, ever.

2005-12-15 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote: Gillam wrote: View determines fruit, as Vaj quoted a master as saying. Or as Dana Sawyer says, precept determines percept. I have to agree. That which one expects seems to color awakening into the unexpected. The experience it what it is, but when it comes to

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