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He probably shouldn't have been meditating at all, at
least not TM
which can cause significant side effects...
Unlike other, more powerful techniques?
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so who regularly disses who for what claim of experience or non-
experience? My own take on people who claim to be in full-blown
brahman consciousness
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You regularly indulge him in the pushing buttons
theme. How could I tell this comment was sarcastic?
I can't help but guffaw here, because this is just
too precious. The whole *thread* was initiated to
poke fun
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You regularly indulge him in the pushing buttons
theme. How could I tell this comment was sarcastic?
I can't help but guffaw here, because
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You regularly indulge him in the pushing buttons
theme. How could I tell this comment was sarcastic?
I can't help but guffaw here, because
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You regularly indulge him in the pushing buttons
theme. How could I tell this comment was sarcastic?
I can't help but guffaw here, because
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You regularly indulge him in the pushing buttons
theme. How could I
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By the way, Jude...before you go off on one of
your familiar rants about my use of quotation
marks, it's worth remembering that sometimes
they
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Just because some bonehead posts here that Kaplan
was ripped off for
$16 million does not make it true. Kaplan said
all kinds of things
about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off
was not one of the
claims -- Kaplan simply said that he was
ill-treated after donating
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He probably shouldn't have been meditating at all, at
least not TM
which can cause
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A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi
programme is so
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was ripped off for
$16 million does not make it true. Kaplan said
all kinds of things
about the TMO when he split, but being ripped off
was
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+++ Rather than a level, I should have said rate of evolving.
Everyone seems to be in a frantic race to be enlightened but,
I
think it is easier to enjoy and let it go easily.
I am quite busy enjoying work
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By the way, Jude...before you go off on one of
your familiar rants about my
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: He probably shouldn't have been meditating at all, at
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On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Upon learning the meditation taught by Rama,
not only did all three start experiencing long periods
of
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Upon learning the meditation taught by Rama, not only did all three start
Jim Flanegin:
1. determination of awakening, or not, of another is something
sensed on a feeling level. Proclamations do no good, unless the
person is walking the walk so to speak. Unfortunately it seems that
the ones best able to see another's awakening are those who are
awake themselves...
Anonff writes:
Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!
Peter:
HA! Is that the expression of the final discrimination
into That?
Tom T:
It is my experience that when I hear someone who knows express it that
unique way that only they can, there is an involuntary HA! that pops
up and gets expressed.
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On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
LIAR!! That's just more typically negative slander from
Vaj. It was a Transcendometer 600 (the newer and more
accurate model), as he is well aware. What is it that
drives
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Jim Flanegin:
1. determination of awakening, or not, of another is something
sensed on a feeling level. Proclamations do no good, unless the
person is walking the walk so to speak.
Well said again Tom T. on your last 2 posts TOM ...Thanks 4 some AHHH
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On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:Jim Flanegin: 1. determination of awakening, or not, of another is something sensed on a feeling level. Proclamations do no good, unless the person is walking the walk so to speak. Unfortunately it seems that the ones best able
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip perhaps I felt it in bad
form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag about it
in
public or discuss the details of how the View was tested and
verified? I know it's all the rage, discussing of
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip perhaps I felt it in bad
form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag
about it in public or discuss the details of how the View
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It's *not* some-
thing that only happens to the holy or the pure
or those who follow all the rules. Sometimes it
happens to just the weirdest people in the world,
for no other reason than it just happens to them.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 11:14 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you like to see the scar on my ass?
I'd love to show that to you! :-)
Reminds me of Forrest Gump and LBJ.
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snip perhaps I felt it in bad
form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag about it
in
public or discuss the details of how the View was tested and
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It's *not* some-
thing that only happens to the holy or the pure
or those who follow all the rules. Sometimes it
happens to just the weirdest
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On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Upon learning the meditation taught by
Since I shared some of the excerpts and we've talked a little on the
biography _Blazing Splendor_ by Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche, I thought I'd
share this good news I just received. This is becoming more common in
the west now. -V.
The long awaited announcement has finally come.
Tulku Urgyen
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Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've heard-- seeing things
clearly. Plain and simple.
on 3/2/06 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it's like that. I don't think it's *ever*
been like that. Shankara farted and shat just like
everyone else does.
I read that he had an anal fistula that bled and caused him a great deal of
discomfort.
on 3/2/06 1:02 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just posted about that same Transcendometer 600(+), before I saw
your post. I guess I should have checked with my Raja first :-)
At Poland Spring Maharishi and Itzhak Bentov talked about Transcendometers,
using that actual term.
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on 3/2/06 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it's like that. I don't think it's *ever*
been like that. Shankara farted and shat just like
everyone else does.
I read that he had an
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It's *not* some-
thing that only happens to the holy or the pure
or
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 1:02 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted about that same Transcendometer 600(+), before I saw your post. I guess I should have checked with my Raja first :-) At Poland Spring Maharishi and Itzhak Bentov talked about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
on 3/2/06 1:02 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just posted about that same Transcendometer 600(+), before I
saw
your post. I guess I should have checked
On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:but I have a hard time believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts are not enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to having a nail driven through their foot or that they cast a shadow. I think he's raising the bar
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type of samadhi. The
Here is a link to a website containing pictures taken at the
Brahmasthan of India recently by two Ukraine Purushas. Note the
pictures are all on one page so if you have a slow connection it may
take some time to load.
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:36 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 3/2/06 1:02 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted about that same Transcendometer 600(+), before I saw
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:31 AM, sparaig wrote:
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FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
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Jim Flanegin:
1. determination of awakening, or not, of another is something
sensed on a feeling level. Proclamations do no good, unless the
person is walking the walk so to speak.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
LIAR!! That's just more typically negative slander from
Vaj. It was a Transcendometer 600 (the newer
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on 3/2/06 11:57 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip perhaps I felt it in bad
form to talk of my own pointing-out and recognition, brag
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wrote:
on 3/2/06 1:02 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just posted about that same Transcendometer 600(+), before I saw
your post. I guess I should have checked with my Raja first :-)
At Poland Spring
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
but I have a hard time
believing that people like Eckhart Tolle and Bernadette Roberts
are
not
enlightened merely because they couldn't be oblivious to having a
nail
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on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail
story of
Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a
certain type
of
on 3/2/06 3:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some
text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming
isn't relevant to witnessing.
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on 3/2/06 3:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting
some
text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't
takethem out of
On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming isn't relevant to witnessing. Actually the
On Mar 2, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type of samadhi. The fact that he did experience pain
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On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
LIAR!! That's just more typically
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 3:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick, wasn't it you who shared the story of M. and the meeting with another meditation teacher whose students could go into an insensate samadhi?
Yes, I told that
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced that such an ability is an essential prerequisite for enlightenment. But that’s really just an opinion based on my current knowledge
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 7 lifetimes to reach Cosmic Consciousness
on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
No. Im sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that Im not convinced that
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--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've heard-- seeing things
clearly. Plain and simple.
To bring up Suzanne Segal again,
On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote:No. I’m sure such things are possible. There are stories in the Puranas too. My only point is that I’m not convinced that such an ability is an essential
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on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I used to receive a hand-typed newsletter from someone on Purusha
and he also described a similar story with M. albeit that this
would take place over a
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--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've
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--- jim_flanegin wrote:
--- Rick Archer wrote:
Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean you're Superman.
That's as good and elegant a definition as I've
on 3/2/06 8:48 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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on 3/2/06 5:46 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I used to receive a hand-typed newsletter from someone on Purusha
and he also described a similar
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wrote:
snip
Much more becomes available, simply by placing the attention on it.
No doubt sidhis and such powers are more easily expressed in such a
state, but oddly enough, living a non-dual reality, where we are no
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Is that sense of easy and simple ever misleading?
I'm thinking of MMY, and wondering whether that's why
he assumed most everyone in the world would take to
TM as soon as they heard about it, that governments
would
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Seems to me that enlightenment is a matter of seeing
things clearly. It doesn't mean
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