[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > --- jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: > > > > > > >Maybe Maharishi isn't fully convinced about the > > > physiological > > > correlates either.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >> > And it lacks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Major states of consciousness may have 6 billion > > different flavors, but there are consistent > > features found in just about all 6 billion > > variations of the th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Exactly the map is different than the territory. The > > barest of > > information, enough to quide and inspire. How else > > can the non-dual > > descriptions be reconc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Maybe Maharishi isn't fully convinced about the > > physiological > > correlates either. Otherwise he would get wired up > > and provide a > > baseline to speed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 8/21/06 10:09 PM, new.morning at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > that they do not > > > > bubble. > > > > > I believe the above statement is at the he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >Maybe Maharishi isn't fully convinced about the > > physiological > > correlates either. Otherwise he would get wired up > > and provide a > > baseline to speed up t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 8:41 PM, Alex Stanley at j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: > > > > > > Where did TMO folks get the idea that being awake/enlightened is a > > > m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probabl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> > And it lacks integrity to claim an awakening > of ones own defitinion is > > >> > in fact

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly the map is different than the territory. The > barest of > information, enough to quide and inspire. How else > can the non-dual > descriptions be reconciled with what MMY says. He > left much out by > necessity, and for other reasons, and m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > > > on 8/21/06 8:48 PM, new.morning at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > >> > That would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > And it lacks integrity to claim an awakening of ones own defitinion is > >> > in fact TMO style enlightenment. > > > Maharishi necessarily gener

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > You are getting sucked into the conventional wisdom regarding > how t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 8:48 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> > That would not be consistent with Tom being in any of those > states. >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maybe Maharishi isn't fully convinced about the > physiological > correlates either. Otherwise he would get wired up > and provide a > baseline to speed up the research. Physiological correlates would only relate to conditions of the mind. An

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/21/06 10:09 PM, new.morning at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > that they do not > > bubble. > > > I believe the above statement is at the heart of all > your questioning. Agree. Akasha seems, and I could be wrong, that nobody is Realized.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- chaim_laib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 4:41 PM, curtisdeltablues at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> > I would be very interested to hear accounts > of people telling > MMY they > > >> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No TMO/MMY enlightenment afer MMY passes then? I assume Raja Tony and other rajas will be anointed as appropriate confirmers of TMO/MMY style of enlightenment. >Tougher for both > parties to get to the mic then.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 11:20 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > Actually, I have few questions. My comments have been more rhetorical > >> > questions -- stemming from what appears to be weak excuses for not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 10:31 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > For "your own" defined enlightenment, or some other teachers, sure. > > > Howeve

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 10:31 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > For "your own" defined enlightenment, or some other teachers, sure. > > However, for MMY's enlightenemt, you need his confirmation. > > > So what if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 11:20 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Actually, I have few questions. My comments have been more rhetorical >  questions -- stemming from what appears to be weak excuses for not > getting on the mic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 11:22 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>  wrote: >>>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably grand. > >> > However you interpret in a particular way that what you ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > And it lacks integrity to claim an awakening of ones own defitinion is > >> > in fact TMO style enlightenment. > > > Maharishi necessarily gener

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 10:09 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I believe the above statement is at the heart of all your questioning. > and? The above was part of a conditional statement --if this then

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 4:41 PM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > I would be very interested to hear accounts of people telling MMY they > >> > were living in higher states of consciousness. Does MMY claim th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably grand. > >> > However you interpret in a particular way that what you exper

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > There is also the issue that there > are > > many stages of awakening, and people may mistake the stage they are > > experiencing for a more advance

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 10:31 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For "your own" defined enlightenment, or some other teachers, sure. However, for  MMY's enlightenemt, you need his confirmation. So what if you attain “MMY’s en

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 8:41 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Where did TMO folks get the idea that being awake/enlightened is a > > measurable, dualistic phenomenon? > > > They assume it is. That assumption i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And it lacks integrity to claim an awakening of ones own defitinion is > in fact TMO style enlightenment. Maharishi necessarily generalized in describing these

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 10:09 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the above statement is at the heart of all your questioning. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > Thats fine, if they are not proclaiming or implyinmg MMY style > > enlightenment without his confirmation. > > > You are beginning to lose your te

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mr. Angry Face

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.matthewroddy.com/mental/angry_face.htm That is one of the freakiest optical illusions I've ever seen. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 4:08 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > , "jyouells2000" jyouells@ wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > > >> > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 8:48 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> > That would not be consistent with Tom being in any of those states. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 8:48 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > That would not be consistent with Tom being in any of those states. > >> > > >> > But if you said the opposite, that would not be consistent w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 7:02 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> > It sounds like the Dome group and M could benefit greatly by > hearing > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > You are getting sucked into the conventional wisdom regarding how to > > measure stuff like consciousness. > > i am not getting sucked into an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 8:42 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> > So it would appear that Ricks friend does not fit the profile > -- with > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Mr. Angry Face

http://www.matthewroddy.com/mental/angry_face.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably grand. > >> > However you interpret in a particular way that what you ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > > > >> > --- In Fairf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably grand. > >> > However you interpret in a particular way that what you exper

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 8:48 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > That would not be consistent with Tom being in any of those states. > >> > > >> > But if you said the opposite, that would not be consistent wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 8:41 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Where did TMO folks get the idea that being awake/enlightened is a > > measurable, dualistic phenomenon? > > > They assume it is. That assumption i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 7:02 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > It sounds like the Dome group and M could benefit greatly by hearing > >> > the direct experience and exposition of a state, per spraigs quote, >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 8:42 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > So it would appear that Ricks friend does not fit the profile -- with > >> > physiological markers, of someone "in" TMO CC. Thus, it appears there >

[FairfieldLife] Re: : "All applicants come NOW."--Maharishi /& Guidelines?

Ken, a defender of the faith. Thanks for coming out. It is good to have the more purist take also here. Ken, I posted a question the other day and there were really no takers. Could you take a try? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/109126 what say the tru-believer reading th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences > on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > That is what is so funny. You "experience" something. Probably grand. > However you interpret in a particular way that what you experience is > TMO/ MMY BC.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 4:08 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply. A quick response -- more on other points later. > > > >> >And MMY > >> > has called for experiences -- of sidhis and statilized sta

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's kinda the same answer I give when people ask me whether the > mantras used in TM are the names of gods: I wouldn't want to > practise a meditation that DIDN'T use mantras that were the names > of gods Better

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 8:41 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did TMO folks get the idea that being awake/enlightened is a measurable, dualistic phenomenon? They assume it is. That assumption is consistent with MMY’s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 8:48 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That would not be consistent with Tom being in any of those states. > > But if you said the opposite, that would not  be consistent with Jim > being in any of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 8:42 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So it would appear that Ricks friend does not fit the profile -- with > physiological markers, of someone "in" TMO CC. Thus, it appears there > are people in FF,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 7:02 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The members of the FF Satsang group apparently can and do live THAT > communal BC every wednesday night. Per the letter posted earier, why > the shyness of the m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > More power to anyone claiming awakening. But without specific > > physiological correlates, its not TMO enlightenement. It is > something > > els

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences on 8/21/06 4:08 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > , "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> , Rick Archer wrote: >> Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > There's no right way or wrong way to look at it. I just think > that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From the idea that enlightened states of consciousness are STATES > OF CONSCIOUSNESS, > > complete with physiological styles of functioning. > > > I don't agree that such states are necessarily measurable with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great Opus Cartoon

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So funny and so true: > http://comics.com/wash/opus/index.html > Now I'll hear from all the "must always be connected" types for mocking > them. ;-) > This is your brain. This is your brain with an ultra-high-frequency

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > --- authfriend wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > > > >> > --- In Fai

[FairfieldLife] Great Opus Cartoon

So funny and so true: http://comics.com/wash/opus/index.html Now I'll hear from all the "must always be connected" types for mocking them. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL, Finally somebody said something.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > "FFL guidelines? Like this one from the group's homepage? > > "Pretty much any topic is fair game." > > Doug writing: > Yeah that is the weak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > > > >> > --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > > > > > Just remember that UC and BC are states of perception. So it is not > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > BC is just a clearer sight of reality than is UC than > > > is GC than is CC. Nothing more than that. > > > > Its interesting people with different exper

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > >> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > There's no right way or wrong way to look at it. I just think that > > its time to declare these states of conciousness as attainable and > > n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool wrote: > > > > > > > Fred was very condescending and dismissive of an > > > Awake friend of mine whose > > > brain waves didn¹t happen to match Fred¹s > > > expectat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > , "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> My prediction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's no right way or wrong way to look at it. I just think that > its time to declare these states of conciousness as attainable and > normal, since there are more and more people being established in > them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > I think more importantly a large percentage of people probably > > don't trust judges in general with their personal safety > > especially when it com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/21/06 6:38 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > > > > > comment by > > > him: > > > > > He never claimed to be in any higher state of consciousn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sure if people talk about stabilized higher states > of consciousness MMY will do what he always does and > talk on many levels simultaneously. Clearly you have had limited time listening to MMY if you feel this is wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

> The point is, TM is the most efficient meditation > technique that has been measured, and > has the most interesting effects on the brain, AND > allows for a simple explanation of all > the major spiritual traditions. But mountain doesn't move. --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > > Just remember that UC and BC are states of perception. So it is not > > difficult for any of us to percieve any of those states and to live > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Something fishy about alleged Jonbenet murderer

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think more importantly a large percentage of people probably > don't trust judges in general with their personal safety > especially when it comes to matters of national security. Latest CNN poll: Most Americans (54 percent) d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > > > on 8/21/06 1:38 PM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/21/06 6:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > him: > > > He never claimed to be in any higher state of consciousness, but he implied > that he had attained them all, by speaking on them authorit

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL, and the Jonbenet murderer?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>authfriend wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> > >>> > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Fred was very condescending and dismissive of an > > Awake friend of mine whose > > brain waves didn¹t happen to match Fred¹s > > expectations. > > Fred is looking for cc-like experiences in the brain. > Quite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > > Just remember that UC and BC are states of perception. So it is not > > difficult for any of us to percieve any of those states and to live

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > > > on 8/21/06 1:38 PM, curtisdeltablues at > curtisdeltablues@ wrote: > > > > > > > My prediction

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/21/06 6:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > a second-hand comment by > > him: > > > He never claimed to be in any higher state of > consciousness, but he implied > that he had attained them all, by speaking on them > authorita

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