[FairfieldLife] The Dr. Phil Koan (was Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field')

2006-06-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I mean, in the case of long-term TMers, you've heard Maharishi describe this state (or states, if you want to get nitpicky) for 30 to 40 years now. Have any of these descriptions ever helped you in any way to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I would like my comment to be separated from any connection with

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Another wrinkle: what exactly does able to do the siddhis actually mean in the context of Unity consciousness? Does it really mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As a friend pointed out recently, this tendency to glorify the enlightened and make them somehow special is in reality a self-defense mechanism. The more special the supposedly enlightened are, the more different

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Bingo! I wouldn't have bought and read her book if it had not been for the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and general outrage expressed by so many prominent Democrats. However, I'm glad I did and might read her other books as

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another wrinkle: what exactly does able to do the siddhis actually mean in the context of Unity consciousness? Does it really mean on demand? This ends up in the broader question of free will and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Yahoo Group website down again

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jim Flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just curious if others are experiencing this, and if there is anything to be done about it.The FFL site was down for several hours beginning yesterday evening, and again now for about an hour so far. Doesn't seem

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/13/06 5:22:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 6/13/06 1:55 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm curious about is why anyone who practices TM (or any

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think there is a line between internal experience, which is tougher to verify, and an external event that can be wittnessed by

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised anyone takes Ann Coulter seriously. She seems to me like a mischievous, playful child who enjoys setting fire to things and causing a lot of petty havoc. She's having fun and making money and annoying

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Right. But the issue I'm trying to get at is whether it makes sense to claim someone doesn't have the siddhis because they do not/cannot perform them

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Right

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another wrinkle: what exactly does able to do the siddhis actually mean in the context of Unity consciousness? Does it really mean on demand? This ends up in the broader question of free will and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: However, there could be a good deal of semantic ambiguity here, in light of how MMY defines Unity consciousness. In other words: Does he have

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-13 Thread authfriend
Just for the record, the stats show that NYC is the lowest-crime big city. Guess which big city is the highest? Dallas. Must be all those librul judges... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is because Purusha has gone to Holland. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a fantastic example of how spiritual people use the appearance of science when it suits them. The New Testament does the same thing. It appears to follow

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
I quoted him! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Another wrinkle: what exactly does able to do the siddhis actually mean in the context of Unity consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip It does interest me that Yogananda's book

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good points. This one interested me the most: rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond science. It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I think Sam Harris would claim

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Curtis you might enjoy the following brief talk with Ken Wilber where he answers the question does quantum physics prove god? where he rather elegantly explains that the quantum state is not unmanifest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fearmonger Gore full of hot air

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guest Column Scientists respond to Gore's warnings of climate catastrophe The Inconvenient Truth is indeed inconvenient to alarmists By Tom Harris Monday, June 12, 2006 www.CanadianFreePress.com Scientists have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal, I don't get it. What am I missing? Long story, an episode that took place before you made your appearance here; but she's suggesting that Bob is lying. (Strangely enough, I got the sense you were hinting

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Quoting Schroedinger:] Let us see whether we cannot draw the correct, noncontradictory conclusion from the following two premises: (i) My body functions as a pure mechanism according to the Laws of Nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: That was really interesting, thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 14,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx coshlnx@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The enlightened person, according to MMY's teaching, doesn't make mistakes *from nature's perspective*; but it's entirely possible for nature to want the enlightened person to make a mistake, for nature's own

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This is a frequent mistake people make, *assuming* that Maharishi [or another guru] is enlightened (I think psychologists refer to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2006, at 2:20 AM, sparaig wrote: snip Well, let's see, Ken Wilber, a rather superficial (sorry Judy) philosopher who has had a few grad-level QM courses as part of his work in biology, concludes that QM

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Also, I'm not at all sure what Wilber says in this vein contradicts Hagelin. I think

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Quoting Schroedinger:] Let us see whether we cannot draw the correct, noncontradictory conclusion from the following two premises: (i) My body functions as a pure mechanism according to the Laws of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: [...] I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [Quoting Schroedinger:] Let us see whether we cannot

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You made a number of new points that are helping me understand how you are seeing the quote. It will take some time for me to unpack it. I think this is worth the time. It is as good a tool as any to discuss

[FairfieldLife] Re: KW on new physics and mysticism

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:05 PM, sparaig wrote: snip So, does he ever name names? What's his take on John Hagelin? Not yet, that I've heard--but then Hagelin hasn't published best- selling books (however KW has blasted, What

[FairfieldLife] Re: KW on new physics and mysticism

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from a footnote (!) in Sex, Ecology, Spirituality Nowhere are the catastrophes of taking monological sciences and trying to make them into a complete new paradigm more obvious than in the new physics and mysticism

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ann Coulter's comments about the 9/11 widows ...or... Hillary Clinton returning a campaign donation to Wal-Mart. No doubt in

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: snip And there have been other widows that have come out and defended Ann Coulters remarks

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 6/15/06 11:56:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shempmcgurk@ writes

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/16/06 10:56:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (These would be the women, just for the record, whose activism resulted in the 9/11 commission to determine what really

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/16/06 4:08:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Criticizing them is one thing. Saying they were enjoying their husbands' deaths because their husbands had been unfaithful to them

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's more offensive?

2006-06-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember that old bone we were chewing on? Indeed I do. I just got back home, and almost the first thing I did was haul out Quantum Questions to reread the entire The 'I' That Is God essay from which I took the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great points. Thanks for taking the time. I will take a little time to make sure I let them sink in. I can't resist this one to start: The irony is that if what you're calling the group 'I' is in fact

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is so abstract it's hard to get across, but do you remember I said my experience of development of consciousness was one of increasing transparency? Part of that is that limitations become transparent

[FairfieldLife] Do-it-yourself Star Trek

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
From the New York Times; June 18, 2006 'Star Trek' Fans, Deprived of a Show, Recreate the Franchise on Digital Video By DANNY HAKIM MASON NECK STATE PARK, Va. — Paul Sieber was wearing a Star Trek uniform in the deep Virginia woods when he found himself surrounded by a leathery-looking

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist suggesting that perhaps the concept that seemed so powerful and important *was itself limited* as it existed in your mind at the time, and that at a certain point you had grown beyond what it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip This is so abstract it's hard to get across, but do you remember I said my experience of development of consciousness was one of increasing transparency? Part of that is that limitations become

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I left the article at home and forgot my password, so I can only copy what's in the Newscientist website: the first paragraph. I sure would love it if you could copy in more when you have access to the article

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-18 Thread authfriend
Vaj wrote: What I was asking was there any hint that some of the research had been fudged for PR purposes? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of any examples of that because I believed the research was valid. Since then I have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rolling Stone article full of ca-ca

2006-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:27 a.m. EDT Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 2004 Voter Theft Theory Debunked Cleveland's leading newspaper has checked out a new article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claiming that Republicans stole

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it - rest of article, quotes and summaries.

2006-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Kochen and Conway stress that their theorem doesn't disprove 't Hooft's theory. It simply states that if his theory is true, our actions cannot be free. And they admit that there's no way for us to tell. Our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it - rest of article, quotes and summaries.

2006-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the first part of the article, and then underneath, selected quotes and summaries of the main points: [brackets, mine]. Meant to say, many thanks for posting this! Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Backward causation through time.: MMY and Hawking.

2006-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q's lesson: think twice before messing with the past. an alternative past may turn out worse than the real past. It's occurred to me to wonder (fancifully) whether the fact that we never seem to be able to nail down

[FairfieldLife] Re: Backward causation through time.: MMY and Hawking.

2006-06-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Unlike the MMY/Hagelin/Chopra Unified Field hypothesis which any reputable physicist with half a brain would find laughable; Like Sparaig, I'd be interested to know *why* you find it laughable (not being a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Olmstead on quantum metaphysics

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: Critique of the What the Bleep movie, featuring Hagelin and other proponents of quantum metaphysics. (his pic featured...):

[FairfieldLife] Re: Backward causation through time.: MMY and Hawking.

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: Q's lesson: think twice before messing with the past. an alternative

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the ongoing discussions in this forum elicit a possible interface with the Turing test (below, entry copied from Wikipedia). Briefly, the person being tested sits behind a screen in which answers to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the door open for an ironic paradox: we can act AS IF our will is free, even if it isn't, and not be the worse for wear. We can't even tell if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: snip The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the door open for an ironic paradox: we can act AS IF our will is free, even if it isn't, and not be the worse for wear. We can't even tell if our

[FairfieldLife] Re: The party of retreat and defeat

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shemp, you can't seriously believe that these captured documents are anything other than fakes cooked up by the US psy-ops boys to fool the American public into believing that we are winning this war. They were more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, you only think you have it!

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: In discussing this with Tom Traynor, he wrapped it up perfectly: Things happen exactly as they should. Why? Because

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jody at http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/ has an entirely different perspective on SSRS. Gosh, you mean Sri Sri *isn't* MMY with all the mistakes taken out? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electronic mantra chanting machine

2006-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat. Reminds me of Tibetan prayer wheels. High tech sadhana. And who is to say that it doesn't work? Overhead, without any fuss... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Electronic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electronic mantra chanting machine

2006-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat. Reminds me of Tibetan prayer wheels. High tech sadhana. And who is to say that it doesn't work? (Can you *imagine* the hilarity if it were MMY marketing an electronic mantra-chanting machine?) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?

2006-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Jody at http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/ has an entirely different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus: 1 billion

2006-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Stop the pissing contest. So what if SSRS has 20 million? It's not about the numbers. It's that one of these two teachers of meditation is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electronic mantra chanting machine

2006-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha! http://snsvo8.seekandsource.com/rkenter/vopage1.html Does that old boyfriend/girlfriend keep hanging around, and you just can't get rid of him/her? Are you being stalked by somebody you met on a chat group? Are bill

[FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS: 20 million?

2006-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jun 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus is coming, and man is he unstressing!

2006-06-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only he would've found a simple, effortless form of meditation... http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/212006b.asp Kansas Pastor Accuses New Age Group of Denying Its Religious Nature By Natalie Harris June 21,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hitler vs. Coulter Quiz

2006-06-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got 10 out of 14 right. 14 of 14 here. The two writing styles are fairly distinct. Facists are so predictable. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871006181947402801q=chogyam He seems rather critical of TM. Gosh, Vaj, it's really amazing how many pieces critical of TM and MMY you seem to just stumble on, isn't it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:58 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=5871006181947402801q=chogyam He seems rather critical of TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=5871006181947402801q=chogyam He seems rather critical of TM. Actually, he's rather critical of his

[FairfieldLife] Re: CIA and FFL

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 23, 2006, at 7:47 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:58 PM, authfriend wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hitler vs. Coulter Quiz

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/06 12:24:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did Hitler use the term liberal? I thought he called people communists. I know to many the terms would be

[FairfieldLife] Re: CIA and FFL

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, you've got to laid, man. Oooh. Somebody's feeling threatened. --- peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 6/22/06 3:43 PM, nablus108 at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 23, 2006, at 7:47 AM, authfriend wrote: snip Gosh, Vaj, it's really amazing how many pieces critical of TM and MMY you seem to just stumble on, isn't it? Support of nature, I guess. I was looking for video

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 22, 2006, at 9:58 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hitler vs. Coulter Quiz

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/06 10:42:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Hitler referred to the communists as Bolsheviks, I believe, rather than communists. Like the communists, Hitler and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Creative Intelligence?

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On June 3rd 2006, MUM students show Creative Intelligence in action, one of the benefits of Unified Field based education:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Krishnamurti (w/ Chogyam Trungpa)

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=5871006181947402801q=chogyam He seems rather critical of TM. Gosh, Vaj, it's really amazing how many pieces critical of TM and MMY you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hitler vs. Coulter Quiz

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/06 11:35:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think from comments I have read in this forum before, there are a lot of people that want more government controls over the

[FairfieldLife] Re: CIA and FFL

2006-06-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/23/06 8:28:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All they would have to do is prove they aren't doing the job they were hired to do and they have been given ample warning to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beware the Yoga Demon! The Christian Right’s fear of self-realization and spirituality

2006-06-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj posted: Beware the Yoga Demon! The Christian Right's fear of self- realization and spirituality By Mel Seesholtz, Ph.D. I recall a warning against Hindu exercises on KFUO, the radio station of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: snip Concentrated wealth in the hands of those responsible for creating it is a GREAT thing and should be encourated. Bhairitu, if you tax it, it goes to government which will NOT use it wisely.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: snip Concentrated wealth in the hands of those

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Because He didn't comply with inspections So right or wrong information On whether there was WMD Is moot When all Saddy Baby had to do Was let us in And inspect Which he didn't do Of course, he *did* let the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/25/06 8:56:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, he *did* let the inspectors in. Bush pulled them out even though--or actually, because-- they weren't finding any WMD,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 6/25/06 8:56:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: Of course, he *did* let the inspectors in. Bush pulled them out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I was just reading in the Times about Richard Grasso, who, making $12 million a year, went through all kinds of contortions to obtain

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/25/06 10:43:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They were in Iraq, doing their job, right up until Bush pulled them out so he could invade. They were *furious*. For Bush to say

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/25/06 10:53:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Instead, he noted, We had made a rapid start. We did not have any obstacles from the Iraqi side in going anywhere. They gave us

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: When rich people talk about money, they're talking

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