Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness on 8/13/06 8:41 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I mention them just to divest > Nablus of the fantasy that MMY is not a human being. Never saig he isn't. Actually once asked who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 11:22 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > >> > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > > > Do you know an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > Shemp: > > > "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > Another way of putting it wou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > --snip-- > > BTW, TM can *appear* to be > > > addicting, but the dynamic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

I figured you had already tried everything. It is amazing how age makes weight gain so much easier. Amazing as in, sucks! I have a standing desk for my computer in my place now to keep me off my butt while working on my computer. I saw this guy on TV who has his laptop on his treadmill, he conduc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You have probably already tried this, but are you working out really > hard? Passive relaxation is not for everyone and can cause some of > the side effects you mention. > Gained weight quite a bit. I'm tryi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > --snip-- > > BTW, TM can *appear* to be > > > addicting, but the dynamics don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

Thunder Box? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats li

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

You have probably already tried this, but are you working out really hard? Passive relaxation is not for everyone and can cause some of the side effects you mention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > saraig > > actually she has just started a bible reading group and sins and > sinners was becoming the flavour of the day just prior to breaking > up. > > But I cannot see this woman ever giving up on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 1:00 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (Willia

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --snip-- > BTW, TM can *appear* to be > > addicting, but the dynamics don't quite fit in my experience. > > Most non-recovering addicts of any t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --snip-- > BTW, TM can *appear* to be > > addicting, but the dynamics don't quite fit in my experience. > > Most non-recovering addicts of any t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > wrote: > > > > > > > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest > of > > > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > > > Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: > > > > > I don't *think* you're claiming that people who believe > > > MMY "has a handle on Absolute

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > Shemp: > > "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and > MMY > > but in the interests of balance and fairness, you wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shemp: > "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY > but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went > into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the TM Program. Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --snip-- > BTW, TM can *appear* to be > > addicting, but the dynamics don't quite fit in my experience. > > Most non-recovering addicts of any t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't *think* you're claiming that people who believe > > MMY "has a handle on Absolute Truth" as you define it > > are convinced they're hovering in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand that, Ingererd--we're a tough crowd! :) > > Sal But for an insider - partly entertaining and sometimes - very often - good points. Sometimes I think that when MMY has TB's , he do not need enemie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > > > That's ok,,,I am certainly accustomed to defensiveness both > passive > > and agressive when speaking about TM with TM'rs > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:58 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Were you ever convinced you were actually hovering > > in the air when you were only hopping? Or were > > you simply using the term "levitate" to ref

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > Another way of putting it would be that he does have > > > a handle on Absolute > > > Truth, but that that d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 11:39 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Very good points about needs, Bill, and how we all need to overcome > them--ha, ha. > > I personally started TM for the relaxation benefits it claimed you'd > feel, and that is still why I continue the practice. T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

I can understand that, Ingererd--we're a tough crowd! :) Sal On Aug 12, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Ingegerd wrote: > I am sometimes very happy that my students don't read FFL - I hope > it will stay that way. > Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yaho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

saraig actually she has just started a bible reading group and sins and sinners was becoming the flavour of the day just prior to breaking up. But I cannot see this woman ever giving up on TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal,,,I'm quite certain of it. > > I think the meditation is her own personal crutch or a happy pill. > > Just pop and hop and she feels better temporarily. But it doesn't > address the underlying root

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nab, maybe it's time to come back from your long visit to the River in > Egypt... > > Sal > I am sometimes very happy that my students don't read FFL - I hope it will stay that way. Ingegerd > > > --- In Fairf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

Not yet but time will tell!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --snip-- > BTW, TM can *appear* to be > > addicting, but the dynamics don't quite fit in my experience. > > Most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > Thank you Sal. > > > > There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing. She told me > > many times things like. > > > > I wouldn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funny you should say that,,,(that it might be her supressed thoughts > too. Well, there's in my native language a proverb that goes like: Se koira älähtää, johon kalikka kalahtaa! (LOL!) I believe many

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that's just it--you weren't supposed to have to "believe in" > anything when you started TM (as it wasn't a religion--remember?). You > didn't even need to believe TM worked--all you had to do was practice > it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, > Are you sure she doesn't have some other problems--like depression or > bipolarism? Sounds like there is something more going on than just > defending MMY. If so, it wouldn't be all that unusual--many of u

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 1:00 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Whe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

*Definitely!* Hi, my name is Sal, and I'm a FF Life addict... All together now..."HI, SAL!!" Sal On Aug 12, 2006, at 1:13 PM, scienceofabundance wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > --snip-- > BTW, TM can *appear* to be >> addicting, but the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, I'd say you're lucky the relationship is over--chalk it up to a > learning experience. > > Many of us felt that way at some point (not the extreme anger part, but > definitely the "protective of all things ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

Nab, maybe it's time to come back from your long visit to the River in Egypt... Sal > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> >>> a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest > of >>> us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > P.S.: That's why "Absolute Truth" in this context > > was a weasel phrase. It had nothing to do with > > the particular issue being discussed, it was j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:27 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How does any of this apply to a TM-Sidhis practitioner > > referring to hopping as "levitation" while being aware > > that hopping isn't actually levita

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --snip-- BTW, TM can *appear* to be > addicting, but the dynamics don't quite fit in my experience. Most non-recovering addicts of any thing will say the same thing you have said above. On a lighter (?), note do you e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 7:51 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (Wil

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How you guys could maintain a relationship is beyond > me. She's a hardcore Ru' and your a "non-meditator" > (very low cosmic status). How long did you guys go out > together? > It's a stupid distinction anyway. If she's s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > Thank you Sal. > > > > There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing. She told me > > many times things like. > > > > I wouldn'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funny you should say that,,,(that it might be her supressed thoughts > too. Because there is this part of me that thinks the very same. > > I thought if I through as much unconditional love her way as hu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > When I first started dating me she was absolutely convinced > > she "levitated" meanwhile I'm down stairs listening to the floor > > upstai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 11:59 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 8/12/06 10:14 AM, shempmcgur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness on 8/12/06 11:57 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You wrote that his "girlfriends" -- plural -- reported that he ejaculated.  So there are at least TWO reports of this? Another point:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 11:59 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 10:14 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > So, yeah,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To clarify, no I am not a TM'r, Judy, I stand corrected. though God knows I was pressured to > become one, to the point where she broke it off once simply because > I wasn't willingly to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 11:22 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > >> > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > > > Do you know an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 10:14 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY > > but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went > > into th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

To clarify, no I am not a TM'r, though God knows I was pressured to become one, to the point where she broke it off once simply because I wasn't willingly to join. No I prefer a park setting, sitting at the base of a tree leaning against it with my spine.(Crosslegged). Sometimes I'll repeat the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 11:39 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness on 8/12/06 11:22 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us Do you know any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > ...and you are, IMHO, an actual practioner of the TM Program > > He never said he practiced TM, Shemp. He said he meditated regularly. And wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...and you are, IMHO, an actual practioner of the TM Program He never said he practiced TM, Shemp. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > Do you know anything about this ? Or is it simply the words spilled > over by yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill: > > consider hitting the "reply" button when you're responding to a > particular point. Unless you're starting a new topic, we won't know > what exactly you're responding to unless you do that because you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > Do you know anything about this ? Or is it simply the words spilled > over by your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

> a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us Do you know anything about this ? Or is it simply the words spilled over by your silly ignorance ? Have you lived in the company of a saint, or is your life dominated by f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > > wrote: > > > So I guess what I'm saying is until one can give up meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't *think* you're claiming that people who believe > > MMY "has a handle on Absolute Truth" as you define it > > are convinced they're hovering in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shemp: > "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY > but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went > into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the TM Program.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But I believe that is the underlying assumption of those who use the phrase > ³Maharishi says.² That phrase carries a lot more weight than ³I say² or > ³George Bush (etc.) says.² The assumption is that because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, Judy, no belief in its efficacy was needed, not when I started > anyway. The motivation would come once the relaxation benefits > came, so the reasoning went. That's what I just said! What are you saying "no"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > Sal,,,I'm quite certain of it. > > > > I think the meditation is her own personal crutch or a happy pill. > > > > Just pop and hop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Authfriend

Bill: consider hitting the "reply" button when you're responding to a particular point. Unless you're starting a new topic, we won't know what exactly you're responding to unless you do that because your correspondent's comments won't appear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (Will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Shemp: "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the TM Program. You can't now turn around and claim shock and awe for all the horrible things that the Movement

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't *think* you're claiming that people who believe MMY "has a handle on Absolute Truth" as you define it are convinced they're hovering in the air when they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Very good points about needs, Bill, and how we all need to overcome > them--ha, ha. > > I personally started TM for the relaxation benefits it claimed you'd > feel, and that is still why I continue the practice.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill's next two first dates: > > Bill "So what do you think about these yogic flyers for world peace I > saw in the paper?" > > Date "Oh my God I am a yogic flyer, I was on that course and it > filled me w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal,,,I'm quite certain of it. > > I think the meditation is her own personal crutch or a happy pill. > > Just pop and hop and she feels better temporarily. But it doesn't > address the underlying root

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter on 8/12/06 9:50 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's when I finally had even enough and said something like,,,Oh sure Maharishi says everyone should be celibate but himreffering to a years ago comment b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's ok,,,I am certainly accustomed to defensiveness both passive > and agressive when speaking about TM with TM'rs > > > > > How can you tell the difference between someone > > who is totally b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

No, Judy, no belief in its efficacy was needed, not when I started anyway. The motivation would come once the relaxation benefits came, so the reasoning went. And yes, I did say you needed to do it 2X a day in my paragraph below. Sal On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:31 AM, authfriend wrote: > >> You

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 10:14 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 8:58 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were you ever convinced you were actually hovering in the air when you were only hopping?  Or were you simply using the term "levitate" to refer to the immediate physical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Authfriend

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Another way of putting it would be that he does have > > a handle on Absolute > > Truth, but that that doesn¹t qualify him as an > > authority on all matters of > > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > P.S.: That's why "Absolute Truth" in this context > > was a weasel phrase. It had nothing to do with > > the particular issue being discussed, it was j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that's just it--you weren't supposed to have to "believe in" > anything when you started TM (as it wasn't a religion--remember?). Wasn't talking about religious belief per se. > You didn't even need to believe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 8:42 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Another way of putting it would be that he does have > a handle on Absolute > Truth, but that that doesn’t qualify him as an >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

> > Boy, she must have been very beautiful or had a very charming > personality for you to stand her for so long. Ah she surely was. In my eyes the most beautiful woman in the world. I would get occassional glimpses of the free spirit within her. Just long nough to keep me coming back for mo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just over two years Peter. > > A great woman, I adored her and still do. When she was peaceful she > was like an angel. But then out of nowhere. Actually it was usually a > day or two after we had done

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

Very good points about needs, Bill, and how we all need to overcome them--ha, ha. I personally started TM for the relaxation benefits it claimed you'd feel, and that is still why I continue the practice. The concept of "enlightenment," whatever it might mean to others, is so vague as to be me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How you guys could maintain a relationship is beyond > me. She's a hardcore Ru' and your a "non-meditator" > (very low cosmic status). How long did you guys go out > together? Yeah, it must have been a horrible and trying

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