[FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
wgm, I think "ultimate relaxation" means something like surrender, maybe what Byron Katie calls loving what is. The important point I think, is that we can, even in a moment of upset, relax physically by following our breathing. Then the mind and emotions automatically relax too. Doing this over and over creates a state of more lasting relaxation in the body. Which gets reflected in the mind and emotions. Maybe not the full monty, but pretty darn good (-: On Thursday, October 9, 2014 6:59 PM, wgm4u wrote: I think Share, for God to put us through all of this, it's got to more than just an 'ultimate relaxation'. You know that; it is described as Sat (Truth) Chit (Conscious..) Ananda (Bliss or eternal happiness), Yogananda calls it 'ever new joy'. TC is more than just No thought and NO mantra...really? (Don't know whether to laugh or cry). People, including TM instructors, take MMY's analogies too far!, they're just teaching tools! Some day Share, if you keep meditating, you will have a clear experience of transcendental consciousness and you'll NEVER forget it, NEVER! It will be an explosion of happiness and bliss like you've never experienced before, now that's worth infusing... We should be happy and grateful that we transcend just a little, but it's not the 'full monty', if you will. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : wgm, one of the most interesting tidbits I've heard recently is that Maharishi once explained enlightenment as the ultimate relaxation, though the person who told me wasn't sure if the word was ultimate, but something along those lines. >From my own experience I agree with this 100%. I notice that the more relaxed >I am in activity, the more loving I feel. It's not rocket science! Sometimes if I need to settle down in activity, I'll simply track my next five breaths. No trying to slow it down. No trying to deepen it. Just paying attention to my next five breaths. So far, it works every time. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:44 PM, wgm4u wrote: I would agree, and far from it, even to the extent that he may have NEVER even experienced it TC to begin with. MMY used to honestly say in the beginning (which is where most people are...and remain, i.e. beginners) it's like perceiving a house in the distance, enough to know it's not a tree (or words to that effect). My point being, even if you only experience a MOMENT of bubbling bliss, it is so enrapturing everything else pales in comparison, he apparently/perhaps obviously didn't even have that! Which would be the common experience of most TMers In short, SC was not transcending, nor do most meditators, deal with it! No thought, no mantra and NO bliss equals NO transcendental consciousness! As, even a moment of that bliss is more rewarding than all of worldly pleasures one could have in a lifetime, combined. How do I know, OK, I experienced it ONCE. During TM I fell asleep and awoke on the other side of deep sleep, it was pure bliss (I don't even know if that would qualify as transcending other than I had that incredible experience. Think of the bubble diagram, the transcendental is beyond relativity, it IS enlightenment. IMHO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
I think Share, for God to put us through all of this, it's got to more than just an 'ultimate relaxation'. You know that; it is described as Sat (Truth) Chit (Conscious..) Ananda (Bliss or eternal happiness), Yogananda calls it 'ever new joy'. TC is more than just No thought and NO mantra...really? (Don't know whether to laugh or cry). People, including TM instructors, take MMY's analogies too far!, they're just teaching tools! Some day Share, if you keep meditating, you will have a clear experience of transcendental consciousness and you'll NEVER forget it, NEVER! It will be an explosion of happiness and bliss like you've never experienced before, now that's worth infusing... We should be happy and grateful that we transcend just a little, but it's not the 'full monty', if you will. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : wgm, one of the most interesting tidbits I've heard recently is that Maharishi once explained enlightenment as the ultimate relaxation, though the person who told me wasn't sure if the word was ultimate, but something along those lines. From my own experience I agree with this 100%. I notice that the more relaxed I am in activity, the more loving I feel. It's not rocket science! Sometimes if I need to settle down in activity, I'll simply track my next five breaths. No trying to slow it down. No trying to deepen it. Just paying attention to my next five breaths. So far, it works every time. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:44 PM, wgm4u wrote: I would agree, and far from it, even to the extent that he may have NEVER even experienced it TC to begin with. MMY used to honestly say in the beginning (which is where most people are...and remain, i.e. beginners) it's like perceiving a house in the distance, enough to know it's not a tree (or words to that effect). My point being, even if you only experience a MOMENT of bubbling bliss, it is so enrapturing everything else pales in comparison, he apparently/perhaps obviously didn't even have that! Which would be the common experience of most TMers In short, SC was not transcending, nor do most meditators, deal with it! No thought, no mantra and NO bliss equals NO transcendental consciousness! As, even a moment of that bliss is more rewarding than all of worldly pleasures one could have in a lifetime, combined. How do I know, OK, I experienced it ONCE. During TM I fell asleep and awoke on the other side of deep sleep, it was pure bliss (I don't even know if that would qualify as transcending other than I had that incredible experience. Think of the bubble diagram, the transcendental is beyond relativity, it IS enlightenment. IMHO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
You know you have Mein Kampf right next to Marshy's bullshit commentary on the Gita - if anyone on this forum has a Nazi mentality of loving the better than everyone else elite (those who do TM and are superior and those who follow the faker Benjy Creme and will be the chosen few when Maitreya comes back) its you Nappy. From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana The Nazis viewed art they didn't like or understood as "entartet", or degenrated and sick. MJ is just the kind of soul they would love to have amongst their ranks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Good grief- you have to ask? The law should deal with Collins. David Lynch should stick to making sick-o films and the TMO should be removed from the face of the earth, Bevan and Hagelin should have to cut someone's lawn to get by. I am feeling A Day in the Life, Part 3 coming on. Hee hee! From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
The Nazis viewed art they didn't like or understood as "entartet", or degenrated and sick. MJ is just the kind of soul they would love to have amongst their ranks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Good grief- you have to ask? The law should deal with Collins. David Lynch should stick to making sick-o films and the TMO should be removed from the face of the earth, Bevan and Hagelin should have to cut someone's lawn to get by. I am feeling A Day in the Life, Part 3 coming on. Hee hee! From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? Huh? How did you come up with that Einsteinian deduction from what I have written so far on this subject? From: "j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Why don't I? Because I don't agree with you! Duh! On Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:27 PM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Pass it on to Bevan why don't you? From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, just wanted to see it in black and white so to speak. On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:54 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Good grief- you have to ask? The law should deal with Collins. David Lynch should stick to making sick-o films and the TMO should be removed from the face of the earth, Bevan and Hagelin should have to cut someone's lawn to get by. I am feeling A Day in the Life, Part 3 coming on. Hee hee! From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. My deepest and most humble apologies. I know I am dense and stubborn and my undying support for TM and now, apparently, pedophiles has become exposed here I must beg you to forgive me. I was afraid the truth would out and you are just the man to have accomplished this. Bananagramming has obviously kept you sharp, very keen. Now excuse me while I google a few words, the first being "sushumna". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Pass it on to Bevan why don't you? From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, just wanted to see it in black and white so to speak. On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:54 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Good grief- you have to ask? The law should deal with Collins. David Lynch should stick to making sick-o films and the TMO should be removed from the face of the earth, Bevan and Hagelin should have to cut someone's lawn to get by. I am feeling A Day in the Life, Part 3 coming on. Hee hee! From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Michael, just wanted to see it in black and white so to speak. On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:54 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Good grief- you have to ask? The law should deal with Collins. David Lynch should stick to making sick-o films and the TMO should be removed from the face of the earth, Bevan and Hagelin should have to cut someone's lawn to get by. I am feeling A Day in the Life, Part 3 coming on. Hee hee! From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Good grief- you have to ask? The law should deal with Collins. David Lynch should stick to making sick-o films and the TMO should be removed from the face of the earth, Bevan and Hagelin should have to cut someone's lawn to get by. I am feeling A Day in the Life, Part 3 coming on. Hee hee! From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Michael, what do you think should be done about all this? About Collins? About DLF? About the TMO? On Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:30 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Ann, you see no problem with a man with these kinds of proclivities being one of the national directors of the Committee for Stress Free Schools, a David Lynch Foundation organization? From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Lawson, here's some info on difference bt pedaphilia and child molestation: Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute is a national, science-based, nonprofit organization dedicated to preventing child sexual abuse through early diagnosis and effective treatment for people at risk to molest children or pedophiles. View on www.childmolestationprevention.org Preview by Yahoo On Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:05 AM, "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" wrote: OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's too young for him. It's interesting that the press is NOT calling it pedaphilia. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
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Richard, "Hell hath no fury..." The whole thing is a tragedy, plenty of human suffering to go around. It has me thinking about capital punishment. Do you think we should execute people who do certain crimes? Serial killers? Child rapists? Torturers? Are there some people who can never be rehabilitated? And how should that be determined? Collins need to make amends to those girls somehow, in some concrete way. And he needs to be incarcerated until rehabilitated. OTOH, I definitely question his ex's motives. Plenty of wrong doing happening. And I keep thinking of what Jesus said: let he who is without sin cast the first stone On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:42 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: On 10/8/2014 9:16 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: >the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could >have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. > > Not to mention that because the tape was illegally released to the media he will probably never get a fair trial - if it comes to that. Also, there seems to have been a cover-up (no puns intended). Apparently the police have had custody of the tape for a few years.The events supposedly happened over 42 years ago. Go figure. > Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. > > Collins' attorney accused his ex-wife of blackmail Tuesday and claimed she has been threatening to release the tape for years so she could get millions in the divorce settlement. > >
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Other than that, I don't think you give a damn. Settle back down. > On 10/9/2014 9:06 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > You are on the money here, Steve. bawee finds himself suddenly animated from his slouch on the TV couch when he smells the equivalent of bacon frying in the kitchen. As soon as the odor of some half-baked story wafts onto FFL he is all over it, salivating. > /It's probably a cry for help - where is Dr. Pete when we need him?/ > I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? > /After so many years of getting humiliated on social media, he will stoop to almost any level these days, including a tragedy, a suicide, or even a natural disaster, in order to win a religious debate. > / Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. > /It's a sign of desperation - so desperate to win that people like Barry will do almost anything to prove their point, even if their debating opponent is dead - or gone missing./ /./ > What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13? > //It's probably very difficult for an egotist like TurqB to get over being discredited for so long - it's been what, //38 years since he got kicked out of the TMO and 28 years since his teacher committed suicide. Then he gets beat up by Judy for another 10 years. It's probably been a tough two or three decades for Uncle Tantra, as far as his dreams of being a spiritual teacher. Maybe next time. Go figure./ /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Oh fer cryin' out loud, Ann, do I have to explain *everything* to you? It's really quite simple. The "Yoga Lite" that is TM didn't raise the transcendental kundalini bliss of the 4th chakra's sushumna, and thus, the Hiranyagarbha was not recognized. Because the Ved is timeless, it matters not when the heinous acts took place. Now, will you *please* stop being an apologist for TM and pedophilia? Thank you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
wgm, one of the most interesting tidbits I've heard recently is that Maharishi once explained enlightenment as the ultimate relaxation, though the person who told me wasn't sure if the word was ultimate, but something along those lines. >From my own experience I agree with this 100%. I notice that the more relaxed >I am in activity, the more loving I feel. It's not rocket science! Sometimes if I need to settle down in activity, I'll simply track my next five breaths. No trying to slow it down. No trying to deepen it. Just paying attention to my next five breaths. So far, it works every time. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:44 PM, wgm4u wrote: I would agree, and far from it, even to the extent that he may have NEVER even experienced it TC to begin with. MMY used to honestly say in the beginning (which is where most people are...and remain, i.e. beginners) it's like perceiving a house in the distance, enough to know it's not a tree (or words to that effect). My point being, even if you only experience a MOMENT of bubbling bliss, it is so enrapturing everything else pales in comparison, he apparently/perhaps obviously didn't even have that! Which would be the common experience of most TMers In short, SC was not transcending, nor do most meditators, deal with it! No thought, no mantra and NO bliss equals NO transcendental consciousness! As, even a moment of that bliss is more rewarding than all of worldly pleasures one could have in a lifetime, combined. How do I know, OK, I experienced it ONCE. During TM I fell asleep and awoke on the other side of deep sleep, it was pure bliss (I don't even know if that would qualify as transcending other than I had that incredible experience. Think of the bubble diagram, the transcendental is beyond relativity, it IS enlightenment. IMHO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I guess if Barry can make TM seem bad enough to himself, he can almost get over his complete lack of spiritual evolution, his lost opportunities, his hopeless techniques of "mindfulness". On the other hand, he could simply be distracting himself, from one moment to the next. I have never known a person who accomplishes so little, while hungrily pointing out the perceived flaws of others. So childish, but then, I forget, what may look like a trip to the fridge for more ice cream, is actually, for Barry, an inter-dimensional journey, through several time portals. But he always makes sure, to come back with the ice cream, glazed eyes, TV, and all. Kinda sounds like a stoner. Now that is a funny few sentences. I just wrote another reference to bawee and TV and food a few minutes ago. There must be something in the air... Maybe it's that retrograde Mercury or whatever it's called.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Easy Barry, easy. Enough with the posturing for the "lurking reporters". We get your faux outrage. This issue has importance for you only in the sense that you can do some TM bashing. Other than that, I don't think you give a damn. Settle back down. You are on the money here, Steve. bawee finds himself suddenly animated from his slouch on the TV couch when he smells the equivalent of bacon frying in the kitchen. As soon as the odor of some half-baked story wafts onto FFL he is all over it, salivating. I don't quite see the connection of how a man in his 20's who allegedly was guilty of gross sexual misconduct with children has much to do with whatever his connection to the TM movement is now and how that reflects badly on the movement. How does it all compute? Is it that some asshole pedophile eventually became a Hollywood actor and somehow became endorsed by the TM movement and has now been exposed 4 decades later as a pedophile therefore makes TM invalid or the movement suspect because they didn't know this guy had sexually abused young children 40 years ago and now they do and... I'm confused. What great revelation am I missing here? How does 4+7= 13?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
On 10/9/2014 2:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. > /OMG! Some people will use any tragedy if they think it will help them win a religious debate. Go figure./ > For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that. > titillate transitive verb: 1. to excite pleasurably : arouse by stimulation intransitive verb: 1. to act as a stimulant to pleasurable excitement "a film made to titillate the audience." "writing that titillates and provokes." http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/titillatet
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 10:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Looking at it honestly, Michael, I believe you are predisposed to be a malcontent. I think it is just your personality. > /He probably hasn't changed much since he was a teenager and it has already been established that practicing TM, TMSP or any other yoga technique, doesn't change anyone's personality. When someone subscribes to a discussion group they can present themselves as anything they want to be. Why some people want to preach to an online spiritual discussion group and pose as spiritual teachers, instead of just seekers, is beyond me (no pun intended). > / You happened upon this TM, and the trigger for your disenchantment, if I recall correctly was the air quality in the dome, or some such thing. Probably the powers that be, did not handle the situation properly, but I suspect that it was only a matter of time before some other situation would arise which would become your wedge issue. Or maybe, you just made progress to a certain point, and now you are in your consolidation period. That may be the more likely scenario being that you can't go more than a couple hours without some reflection of TM. (and of course, there is the matter of what eating a piece of pizza does to you) (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. *From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: *From:* "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have.
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Steve you crack me up with this stuff, served up the way I like my scrambled eggs and bacon, dry, and crisp. Good morning! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Looking at it honestly, Michael, I believe you are predisposed to be a malcontent. I think it is just your personality. You happened upon this TM, and the trigger for your disenchantment, if I recall correctly was the air quality in the dome, or some such thing. Probably the powers that be, did not handle the situation properly, but I suspect that it was only a matter of time before some other situation would arise which would become your wedge issue. Or maybe, you just made progress to a certain point, and now you are in your consolidation period. That may be the more likely scenario being that you can't go more than a couple hours without some reflection of TM. (and of course, there is the matter of what eating a piece of pizza does to you) (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
I guess if Barry can make TM seem bad enough to himself, he can almost get over his complete lack of spiritual evolution, his lost opportunities, his hopeless techniques of "mindfulness". On the other hand, he could simply be distracting himself, from one moment to the next. I have never known a person who accomplishes so little, while hungrily pointing out the perceived flaws of others. So childish, but then, I forget, what may look like a trip to the fridge for more ice cream, is actually, for Barry, an inter-dimensional journey, through several time portals. But he always makes sure, to come back with the ice cream, glazed eyes, TV, and all. Kinda sounds like a stoner. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Easy Barry, easy. Enough with the posturing for the "lurking reporters". We get your faux outrage. This issue has importance for you only in the sense that you can do some TM bashing. Other than that, I don't think you give a damn. Settle back down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Oh My God, we've got *another* TM True Believer trying to make excuses for Stephen Collins on the grounds of misogyny and male privilege. Stephen Collins is 67. If, as your comrade-in-misogyny srijau suggests, the incidents in question happened 20 years ago, that would make him 47 at the time he was molesting an *11-year-old girl*. If it happened *40 years ago*, that would make him 27 as he was molesting the 11-, 12-, and 13-year-olds so far named in the investigation. The fact that YOU (depending on the state you lived in) were possibly willing to violate statutory rape laws and date a 16-year-old is...uh...NOT helping your case. Has TM made you INSANE? From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
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Easy Barry, easy. Enough with the posturing for the "lurking reporters". We get your faux outrage. This issue has importance for you only in the sense that you can do some TM bashing. Other than that, I don't think you give a damn. Settle back down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Oh My God, we've got *another* TM True Believer trying to make excuses for Stephen Collins on the grounds of misogyny and male privilege. Stephen Collins is 67. If, as your comrade-in-misogyny srijau suggests, the incidents in question happened 20 years ago, that would make him 47 at the time he was molesting an *11-year-old girl*. If it happened *40 years ago*, that would make him 27 as he was molesting the 11-, 12-, and 13-year-olds so far named in the investigation. The fact that YOU (depending on the state you lived in) were possibly willing to violate statutory rape laws and date a 16-year-old is...uh...NOT helping your case. Has TM made you INSANE? From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Collins didn't violate statutory rape laws with a consenting 16-year-old with the tacit approval of their parents. 11-year-olds and 16-year-olds are slightly different. And my point still stands: I have seen no evidence that Collins ever went anywhere near any child taught TM via the DLF. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As I said, congratulations on having destroyed any hint of objectivity and ethics you might have ever imagined you had w.r.t. to things TM. Are we supposed to believe that someone who was willing to violate statutory rape laws *himself* is going to see anything wrong with a TM luminary doing the same thing? Boy, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree when it comes to Maharishi's students emulating his lack of ethical standards with regard to sex. From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Hmmm... My original point stands, however: I've seen no evidence that he's been anywhere near any kid taught TM through the DLF. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's what acting like a knee-jerk TM defender will get you, Lawson. You look like a complete ass. And not for the first time. Congratulations on having destroyed any hint of objectivity and ethics you might have ever imagined you had w.r.t. to things TM. From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's too young for him. It's interesting that the press is NOT calling it pedaphilia. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
As I said, congratulations on having destroyed any hint of objectivity and ethics you might have ever imagined you had w.r.t. to things TM. Are we supposed to believe that someone who was willing to violate statutory rape laws *himself* is going to see anything wrong with a TM luminary doing the same thing? Boy, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree when it comes to Maharishi's students emulating his lack of ethical standards with regard to sex. From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana Hmmm... My original point stands, however: I've seen no evidence that he's been anywhere near any kid taught TM through the DLF. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's what acting like a knee-jerk TM defender will get you, Lawson. You look like a complete ass. And not for the first time. Congratulations on having destroyed any hint of objectivity and ethics you might have ever imagined you had w.r.t. to things TM. From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's too young for him. It's interesting that the press is NOT calling it pedaphilia. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Hmmm... My original point stands, however: I've seen no evidence that he's been anywhere near any kid taught TM through the DLF. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's what acting like a knee-jerk TM defender will get you, Lawson. You look like a complete ass. And not for the first time. Congratulations on having destroyed any hint of objectivity and ethics you might have ever imagined you had w.r.t. to things TM. From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's too young for him. It's interesting that the press is NOT calling it pedaphilia. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
That's what acting like a knee-jerk TM defender will get you, Lawson. You look like a complete ass. And not for the first time. Congratulations on having destroyed any hint of objectivity and ethics you might have ever imagined you had w.r.t. to things TM. From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's too young for him. It's interesting that the press is NOT calling it pedaphilia. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
Oh My God, we've got *another* TM True Believer trying to make excuses for Stephen Collins on the grounds of misogyny and male privilege. Stephen Collins is 67. If, as your comrade-in-misogyny srijau suggests, the incidents in question happened 20 years ago, that would make him 47 at the time he was molesting an *11-year-old girl*. If it happened *40 years ago*, that would make him 27 as he was molesting the 11-, 12-, and 13-year-olds so far named in the investigation. The fact that YOU (depending on the state you lived in) were possibly willing to violate statutory rape laws and date a 16-year-old is...uh...NOT helping your case. Has TM made you INSANE? From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
OK, reading up on things, he's 8 years older than me, so an incident that happened 42 years ago would have made him in his mid-20s. Also, the incident was not with a 16-year-old he was dating with parent's knowledge, but with an 11-year-old. That's pedaphilia, not merely dating a girl that's too young for him. It's interesting that the press is NOT calling it pedaphilia. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
What evidence do you hve the Collins had access to ANY of the kids taught TM through the DLF? I've seen no publicity photos of him in schools. And how old is Collins? When I was 21, I was dating 16-year-olds. Their parents were quite aware of our age difference, and were pleased that, immature as I was (to be dating a 16-year-old at 21) I was still obviously a nice guy, unlike their last boyfriend (the fact that her step brother had "gotten her cherry" when they were about 12 and ended up marrying the eldest sister (Jack Mormons, what can you say?) probably had something to do with relieved attitude that she was bringing home a nice boy--me--even if I was too old -at least I wasn't her older step-brother, who apparently had eyes on the younger sister also). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "srijau@..." the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
From: "sri...@ymail.com" the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. Oh My God. There really IS such a thing as a TM True Believer so lost in his Believerism that he's willing to try to distract from child molestation by invoking misogyny. For the record, "srijau," the problem is NOT with how large Stephen Collins' banana is, but where he chose to stick it (an underaged girl), and the fact that his efforts for the David Lynch Foundation gave him unfettered access to hundreds of similarly-aged girls. Even "male minds" should be able to get that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Looking at it honestly, Michael, I believe you are predisposed to be a malcontent. I think it is just your personality. You happened upon this TM, and the trigger for your disenchantment, if I recall correctly was the air quality in the dome, or some such thing. Probably the powers that be, did not handle the situation properly, but I suspect that it was only a matter of time before some other situation would arise which would become your wedge issue. Or maybe, you just made progress to a certain point, and now you are in your consolidation period. That may be the more likely scenario being that you can't go more than a couple hours without some reflection of TM. (and of course, there is the matter of what eating a piece of pizza does to you) (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have. From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com https://celebrity.yahoo.c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
On 10/8/2014 9:16 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. > /Not to mention that because the tape was illegally released to the media he will probably never get a fair trial - if it comes to that. Also, there seems to have been a cover-up (no puns intended). Apparently the police have had custody of the tape for a few years.//The events supposedly happened over 42 years ago. Go figure. > / Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind. > /Collins' attorney accused his ex-wife of blackmail Tuesday and claimed she has been threatening to release the tape for years so she could get millions in the divorce settlement./ >
[FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins 40 year banana
the Stephen Collins incidents are 20 to 40 years ago, so he definitely could have grown quite a large banana with TM long since. Also we don't really know the truth from a therapy session tape, as any man who has been married could well imagine what weird things you might say, for whatever reason, especially an actor or other creative person, when at odds with the aggrieved female mind.
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On 10/8/2014 2:44 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Except he wasn't a visionary, his "vision" was of gold, silver and gems that he and his family amassed from the faithful, and his "practical means to attain it" often leads to despair, suicide and ill considered behavior among those who practice the longest - you can spin it as positively as you want to and keep dodging the truth, but Marshy used the knowledge and myth and superstition of India to make himself a little god, enrich himself and get laid alot. That's it. > /Non sequitur. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence. Getting laid a few times in the sixties is not considered to be "alot."/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
I would agree, and far from it, even to the extent that he may have NEVER even experienced it TC to begin with. MMY used to honestly say in the beginning (which is where most people are...and remain, i.e. beginners) it's like perceiving a house in the distance, enough to know it's not a tree (or words to that effect). My point being, even if you only experience a MOMENT of bubbling bliss, it is so enrapturing everything else pales in comparison, he apparently/perhaps obviously didn't even have that! Which would be the common experience of most TMers In short, SC was not transcending, nor do most meditators, deal with it! No thought, no mantra and NO bliss equals NO transcendental consciousness! As, even a moment of that bliss is more rewarding than all of worldly pleasures one could have in a lifetime, combined. How do I know, OK, I experienced it ONCE. During TM I fell asleep and awoke on the other side of deep sleep, it was pure bliss (I don't even know if that would qualify as transcending other than I had that incredible experience. Think of the bubble diagram, the transcendental is beyond relativity, it IS enlightenment. IMHO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Except he wasn't a visionary, his "vision" was of gold, silver and gems that he and his family amassed from the faithful, and his "practical means to attain it" often leads to despair, suicide and ill considered behavior among those who practice the longest - you can spin it as positively as you want to and keep dodging the truth, but Marshy used the knowledge and myth and superstition of India to make himself a little god, enrich himself and get laid alot. That's it. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established
in bliss consciousness.
As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that
hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a
practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and
a means to attain it.
Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes?
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u
wrote:
What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to
'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview
at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been
molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-)
Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is
mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more
likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent
with the proper understanding of Yoga.
TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context.
Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy
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of C... Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch
Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( "Let the Bliss begin", on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 1:15 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Of course TM doesn't handle these issues, but Marshy and the Movement claim they do, and when you add in the ridiculous adjunct programs like yagya and all the Indian nostrums > /Prejudice: a preconceived judgment toward a group of people or a person because of religion, gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality or other personal characteristics./ > the TMO sells, they claim they got a lock on perfect everything for the individual and society. That is one of the reasons they are so despicable, they prey on people's weaknesses and their hope for a better life. > *From:* "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Perhaps TM and TMSP DID help him, but TM is an anti-stress practice. There's no reason (other than Maharishi's most extreme rhetoric) to assume that, in any finite amount of time (at least), it will affect non-stress-related behavioral and health-related issues. Now, you can make the case that virtually every dysfunctional behavior is stress-related to a certain extent, but obviously in Collin's case, TM and TMSP weren't sufficient to change his behavior. After 40 years of TM and 30 years of TMSP, I've found that some of my issues havent' been handled adequately either. OTOH, I've tried western-style therapy and medication for 20 years also, and still have problems. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. *From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. *From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, w
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Of course TM doesn't handle these issues, but Marshy and the Movement claim they do, and when you add in the ridiculous adjunct programs like yagya and all the Indian nostrums the TMO sells, they claim they got a lock on perfect everything for the individual and society. That is one of the reasons they are so despicable, they prey on people's weaknesses and their hope for a better life. From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Perhaps TM and TMSP DID help him, but TM is an anti-stress practice. There's no reason (other than Maharishi's most extreme rhetoric) to assume that, in any finite amount of time (at least), it will affect non-stress-related behavioral and health-related issues. Now, you can make the case that virtually every dysfunctional behavior is stress-related to a certain extent, but obviously in Collin's case, TM and TMSP weren't sufficient to change his behavior. After 40 years of TM and 30 years of TMSP, I've found that some of my issues havent' been handled adequately either. OTOH, I've tried western-style therapy and medication for 20 years also, and still have problems. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. >From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological >development. But i
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Perhaps TM and TMSP DID help him, but TM is an anti-stress practice. There's no reason (other than Maharishi's most extreme rhetoric) to assume that, in any finite amount of time (at least), it will affect non-stress-related behavioral and health-related issues. Now, you can make the case that virtually every dysfunctional behavior is stress-related to a certain extent, but obviously in Collin's case, TM and TMSP weren't sufficient to change his behavior. After 40 years of TM and 30 years of TMSP, I've found that some of my issues havent' been handled adequately either. OTOH, I've tried western-style therapy and medication for 20 years also, and still have problems. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Richard, I'm coming to the conclusion that we're all the victims of our brain
chemistry. Which could even prevent us from going and figuring! (-:
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:16 AM, "'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On 10/8/2014 11:01 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help
in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious
and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that.
Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep
the baby...
>
Apparently Michael tends to believe in Absolutist terms (either l00% true or
100% false) and he cannot tolerate situations in which:
a. the truth is unknown
b. the truth is midway between extremes
c. simply unknowable
d. variants such as true some of the time, but at other times not true, or
true for some people but not others.
Go figure.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
then the whole thing is bull crap - look at the way TM is touted and hyped as a panacea for everything from bad grades, failing relationships to PTSD - you are just making excuses. I bow to the TM Free Facebook page's quip - it ways it better than I could have: "National Co-director of TM's Committee for Stress-free Schools scrubbed off TM and David Lynch Foundation sites after revelations of child molestation. 30 years of TM for an Ideal Society!" From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl You are right, Share. I have never seen a claim that TM cures pedophilia or any other sexual disorder. It doesn't have any effect on those kinds of things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that. Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the baby... On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:54 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. >From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological >development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to >hea
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
You are right, Share. I have never seen a claim that TM cures pedophilia or any other sexual disorder. It doesn't have any effect on those kinds of things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that. Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the baby... On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:54 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
On 10/8/2014 11:01 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that. Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the baby... > /Apparently Michael tends to believe in Absolutist terms (either l00% true or 100% false) and he cannot tolerate situations in which: // // // a. the truth is unknown// // b. the truth is midway between extremes// // c. simply unknowable// // d. variants such as true some of the time, but at other times not true, or true for some people but not others. // // //Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that. Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the baby... On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:54 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. >From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological >development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to >heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. >From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological >development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to >heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have. From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tues
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life. In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home. We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw conclusions is not really useful. I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I see the TMO itself evolving. Take the best and leave the rest! On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. >From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological >development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to >heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have. From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne || |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. Nicely said, Share.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels. If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would never say a word. It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization. And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did claim that it is. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his efforts. What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own, not to others. >From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological >development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to >heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage. Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote: From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have. ____ From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne Suzy Byrne See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com Preview by Yahoo View photo. Stephen Collins (Getty Images)Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor. "There is a formal complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children, has
been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And he
has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his
efforts.
What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps
that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own,
not to others.
>From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological
>development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to
>heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage.
Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for
healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal
with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They
are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it.
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly
silent!
They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all,
*nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being
investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll
try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up.
Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have.
From: wgm4u
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few
years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed
benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess!
Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest
teaching on the planet?)
'7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout
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View photo.Stephen Collins (Getty Images)Stephen
Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th
Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and
exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his
admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor."There is a formal
complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan
Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up. Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have. From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne Suzy Byrne See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com Preview by Yahoo View photo. Stephen Collins (Getty Images)Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor. "There is a formal complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Let's face it, a dick is more powerful than a mantra. Well, maybe not a dick but what drives it is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
poor you Michael. I am not sure what it proves in your mind, but it sounds like you are just getting started with this. go for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Stephen Collins is a pedophile with a "long term pattern of sexually molesting children" ... this according to Collins' wife. In the 2014 divorce docs -- obtained by TMZ -- Faye Grant claims Collins "admitted that he had sexually molested 3 underage girls over a decade ago: At least two of these girls were molested over the course of several years." Grant says in a declaration, she is "sickened by Stephen's actions." She says, "I have urged Stephen multiple times to seek treatment for pedophilia, but "he has refused to seek proper help or hospitalization for the predilection toward children." I guess Stephen decide to rely instead on his TMSP practice, yagyas and maybe some gem stones and suchlike. From: Duveyoung To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Let's face it, a dick is more powerful than a mantra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
well said. this is wisdom, and the case nine and a half times out of ten. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Let's face it, a dick is more powerful than a mantra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
you are a funny guy Michael. You are the guy who spends hours upon hours looking for negative article 20, 30, 40 years old about TM. You take any negative report on TM as gospel, rarely feeling the need for any vetting. So, now you have something substantial. Yes, an admitted child molester in our midst. So we deal with it. You're like that obnoxious guy at a sporting event telling everyone they should be standing up and shouting. You have little credibility Michael. You cry wolf just a tad too much. Like five or six times a day. We'll deal with it Michael, the way normal people do. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Preview by Yahoo View photo . Stephen Collins (Getty Images) Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor. "There is a formal complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Any day now, TM is gonna 'kick in' any day now!! This is what happens when you expect 'GOD' to do everything for you.NOTHING! God gives YOU the power to do it for yourself! Just a little teaching completely missing from the tmorg.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Nyuk, nyuk...I'd buy THAT; for a dollar!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Stephen Collins is a pedophile with a "long term pattern of sexually molesting children" ... this according to Collins' wife. In the 2014 divorce docs -- obtained by TMZ -- Faye Grant claims Collins "admitted that he had sexually molested 3 underage girls over a decade ago: At least two of these girls were molested over the course of several years." Grant says in a declaration, she is "sickened by Stephen's actions." She says, "I have urged Stephen multiple times to seek treatment for pedophilia, but "he has refused to seek proper help or hospitalization for the predilection toward children." I guess Stephen decide to rely instead on his TMSP practice, yagyas and maybe some gem stones and suchlike. From: Duveyoung To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Let's face it, a dick is more powerful than a mantra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Let's face it, a dick is more powerful than a mantra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly silent! From: wgm4u To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne Suzy Byrne See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com Preview by Yahoo View photo. Stephen Collins (Getty Images)Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor. "There is a formal complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
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Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Preview by Yahoo View photo . Stephen Collins (Getty Images) Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor. "There is a formal complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
