[Felvtalk] Doxorubicin with or without Human Interferon or Feline Interferon

2019-10-02 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our 1 and ½ year old male, Bado, is FELV+ and has been taking 1ml of 
Human Interferon once per day, seven days on and seven days off, since March of 
2019.  Bado was just diagnosed with Acute Myeloid Leukemia.  We have started 
treating Bado with chemo using Doxorubicin.  Does anyone know if the 
Doxorubicin is more or less effective either combined with Human Interferon or 
Feline Interferon, or if we should halt the use of all Interferon for a time 
and just deal with the chemo?  Our oncologist and internist work well together, 
but they do not have a definitive answer for us, so at this point we are 
leaning towards halting the use of all Interferon to be certain it does not 
interfere with the chemo Doxorubicin.  We also want to be sure that this is not 
creating additional risks for Bado to stop all Interferon.  Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.  Thank you, Wendy and Bado

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[Felvtalk] Knowledge or experience dealing with an FELV+ cat with Acute Myeloid Leukemia?

2019-09-20 Thread Wendy
Hello, Bado, our 1 and ½ year old male cat is FELV+ and today was just 
diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia, AML-M6, which we found because he was 
severely anemic, lethargic, and had decreased appetite.  He is being treated 
with Doxy and Pred now.  We see the oncologist on Tuesday.  Does anyone have 
experience or knowledge of treatment for acute myeloid leukemia, especially in 
an FELV+ cat?  Thank you, Wendy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bone Marrow Testing for FELV positive Cat?

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Thank you so much, again, Amani

On Sep 19, 2019, at 8:13 PM, Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:

Wendy

I was going to comment on that issue earlier, but I thought you had already 
gone ahead with the bone marrow testing. I am not sure there is any other 
treatment, regardless of the outcome of the testing. I personally agree with 
you that I probably would choose not to put my cat through bone marrow testing, 
when it really can’t affect the outcome. I am glad to hear that he is feeling 
better after the two transfusions. Use the Doxy-Pred-Winstrol combination now, 
and hopefully, your kitten’s haematocrit doesn’t end up falling after the 
temporary boost from the blood transfusion. The life span of a red blood cell 
is 120 days (at least in humans), and the blood transfusions will have red 
cells at different stages of their life spans, so you probably already know 
that the effect of the transfusions will probably only last 3 months or so. 
Hopefully by then the Winstrol would have kicked in to assist the bone marrow 
in producing red cells.

Amani

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Bone Marrow Testing for FELV positive Cat?

Hello, Thank you all for your replies earlier today.  Our cats’ red count is 
coming back after 2 blood transfusions, and we started doxy today.  He is 
eating, drinking, purring, has much better energy, is back to talking, etc.  We 
are awaiting results that we should have tomorrow morning on the test of his 
lymphocytes using blood that was drawn before the blood transfusions.  If the 
test comes back showing that the lymphocytes contain cancer cells, then we have 
our answer.  If the test comes back showing that the lymphocytes do not contain 
cancer cells, then it has been suggested that we do bone marrow testing asap 
tomorrow afternoon.  My understanding is that the bone marrow test would likely 
either show that he has myelodysplasia or cancer in his bone marrow.  My 
question is: Would the suggested treatment of Doxy + Pred + Winstrol change if 
we find out that our cat has myelodysplasia vs if he has cancer in his bone 
marrow?  If the treatment is the same, then I question putting our cat at the 
risk of anesthesia, lowering his red count, infection, etc.  The plan is to 
start our cat on Doxy + Pred + Winstrol tomorrow afternoon, and we are being 
told that if we want to test his bone marrow we need to do it tomorrow morning 
before we start giving him steroids.  In addition, his chest x-ray today was 
clean, and his abdominal ultrasound showed a slightly enlarge spleen and either 
a few slightly enlarged lymph nodes or possibly a few small satellite spleens, 
all of which seems can be expected with the anemia and / or infection, and 
therefore was not cause for concern.

Following are the background facts, which I also posted this morning:  Our FELV 
positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has gotten very sick 
suddenly. He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 2019.  A few days 
ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his blood drawn 
yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he needed a 
blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow test 
tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not very 
effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they are 
going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work:
Tests ResultsRef. Range
Total Protein  6.1  5.2- 8.8 g/dL
Albumin 3.5   2.5- 3.9 g/dl
Globulin 2.6   2.3- 5.3 g/dL
A/G Ratio  1.30.35- 1.5
AST (SGOT)  106 (HIGH)   10-100 IU/L
ALT (SGPT)   3910- 100  IU/L
Alk Phosphatase406- 102  IU/L
GGT  11- 10 IU/L
Total Bilirubin   0.1   

Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Amani,  Thank you very much for your detailed response.  I apologize for 
my poor explanation regarding the blood transfusion not being effective. You 
are correct, that it was merely a dilution effect from the iv fluids.  All the 
best, Wendy

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

As others have mentioned in reply to your post, I have used a combination of 
Winstrol (Stanozolol), Doxycycline and Prednisone. The blood work seems to show 
that there is an affect on both the red cell lines and platelets. That suggests 
that this is a bone marrow depression, and in turn that suggests that this is 
likely the effect of FeLV. My experience has been that the Winstrol seems to 
turn back on or encourage the growth of new bone marrow cells, and is really 
great for increasing red cell indices (red cell counts, haematocrit, 
haemoglobin, reticulocyte count), and I saw it take effect pretty quickly. My 
cat's haematocrit was down to 10 after two separate rounds of blood transfusion.

By the way, I don't understand the explanation in your email, that you've been 
told that the blood transfusion wasn't effective because of too much IV fluids. 
That doesn't make a lot of sense. You are still infusing the same volume of red 
cells, whether that is diluted by the IV fluids or not. I agree that the lab 
results may show a dilution effect because of the IV fluids, but that just 
means that when the excess fluid is pee'd out, then the haematocrit result will 
go up. By the way, if there is truly a dilution effect, it will show on a 
number of lab results like sodium, potassium, urea and platelets.

What I had my cat on was:   Winstrol (stanozolol)  
1 mg, 2 times a day (though this can be dramatically increased if necessary)
 Doxycycline
  50 mg daily (can be given once, or split to 25 mg, 2 times a day)
 Prednisone/Prednisolone
  5 mg daily (can be given once, or split to 2.5 mg, 2 times a day)


Amani

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT
Importance: High

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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[Felvtalk] Bone Marrow Testing for FELV positive Cat?

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
   4.5 (LOW)9.3- 15 .9 g/dL
HCT   29-48 % '
The hematocrit in th 27. (Normal range 29-48). A recent study has indicated 
that >23% of anemic cats are infected with one or more species of hemoplasma 
and several studies confirm that PCR is significantly more sensitive in 
detecting hemoplasma.
MCV  5737-61 fl
MCH 18.2 11-21 pg
MCHC  3230-38 g/dl
Poikilocytosis Slight
NRBC   9(HIGH)0-1/100 WBC
Blood Parasites   None Seen RBC Comment
Rouleaux Moderate
Platelet Count 78 (LOW)200-500 10'/µL
Platelet count reflects the minimum number due to platelet clumping.
Platelet EstimateAdequate
DifferentialAbsolute  o/o
Neutrophils (LOW)1640 8  2500 - 8500 /µL
Bands 0
Lymphocytes (HIGH)   17630861200 - 8000 /µL
Monocytes (HIGH)10255 0-600 /µ L
Eosinophils0  0  0-1000 /µ L
Basophils (HIGH) 205  1  0- 150  /µL
FREE T4 BY EQU ILIBRIUM D IALYS IS (Pending)
UR INALYSIS- C OMPL ETE
Collection Method Cystocentesis
0.8- 4.0  µ g/dl
Color Appearance Specific Gravity pH
DARK YELLOW TURBID
1.056  1.015- 1.060
7.0  5.5- 7.0
Protein2+ (HIGH)NEGATIVE
Glucose-StripNEGATIVENEGATIVE
Ketones NEGATIVENEGATIVE
Bilirubin NEGATIVENEGATIVE
Occult BloodNEGATIVE  NEGATIVE
WBC  NONE0-3 HPF
RBC   NONE0-3 HPF
Casts NONE SEEN Hyaline 0-3 LPF
Crystals NONE SEEN HPF
Bacteria Epithelial CellsNONE SEEN NONE SEEN
   None Seen
  HPF HPF
Fat Droplets
  >50   
HPF
RETICULOCYTE COUNT REFLEX
Reticulocyte Total Abso lute Ret iculocytes
0.6 0-1  %
15000  <45,000   JµL
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
Thank you again, Wendy

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[Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT - reposting as other email too long

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
He is getting the interferon orally and it is never being injected.

On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy 
mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net>> wrote:

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Lorraine, it is interferon alpha 2B compounded that my vet ordered for 
our cat from Road Runner Pharmacy.  It shows Cat on the label.  He takes the 
interferon orally, and not by injection.  Sorry for all of the responses, I’m 
trying to figure out this system and worried about our precious cat.  Does this 
help?  Thank you so much, Wendy

On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy 
mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net>> wrote:

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 57, Issue 1

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Lorraine, it is interferon alpha 2B compounded that my vet ordered for 
our cat from Road Runner Pharmacy.  It shows Cat on the label.  Does this help? 
 Thank you so much, Wendy

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Re: [Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
Hello Lorraine, it is interferon alpha 2B compounded that my vet ordered for 
our cat from Road Runner Pharmacy.  It shows Cat on the label.  Does this help? 
 Thank you so much, Wendy

On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:26 PM, Wendy 
mailto:we...@wendyfrank.net>> wrote:

Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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[Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT - REPOSTING WITH FULL BLOOD WORK

2019-09-19 Thread Wendy
-38   
   g/dl

Poikilocytosis Slight

NRBC   9(HIGH)  0-1 
  /100 WBC

Blood Parasites   None Seen RBC Comment

Rouleaux Moderate



Platelet Count 78 (LOW)200-500  
   10'/µL

Platelet count reflects the minimum number due to platelet clumping.



Platelet EstimateAdequate

DifferentialAbsolute  o/o

Neutrophils (LOW)1640 8  2500 - 8500
   /µL

Bands 0

Lymphocytes (HIGH)   17630861200 - 8000 
  /µL

Monocytes (HIGH)10255 0-600 /µ L

Eosinophils0  0  0-1000 
 /µ L

Basophils (HIGH) 205  1  0- 150 
  /µL


FREE T4 BY EQU ILIBRIUM D IALYS IS (Pending)
UR INALYSIS- C OMPL ETE

Collection Method Cystocentesis


0.8- 4.0  µ g/dl





Color Appearance Spec ific Gravity pH


DARK YELLOW TURBID

1.056  1.015- 1.060

7.0  5.5- 7.0



Protein





2+ (HIGH)


NEGATIVE


Urine protein:creatini ne ratio testing is recommended (if the sediment is 
inactive) to he lp determine the clinical significance of proteinuria.



Glucose-Strip


NEGATIVE


NEGATIVE





Ketones


NEGATIVE


NEGATIVE


Bilirubin


NEGATIVE


NEGATIVE


Occult Blood


NEGATIVE


NEGATIVE


WBC


NONE


0-3


HPF


RBC


NONE


0-3


HPF


Casts


NONE SEEN


Hyaline 0-3


LPF


Crystals


NONE SEEN





HPF


Bacteria Epithelial Cells


NONE SEEN NONE SEEN


None Seen


HPF HPF


Fat Droplets


>50





HPF


RETICULOCYTE COUNT REFLEX

Reticulocyte Total Abso lute Ret iculocytes


0.6 0-1  %
15000  <45,000   JµL


Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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[Felvtalk] PLEASE HELP ASAP - VERY SICK FELV CAT

2019-09-18 Thread Wendy
Hello, Our FELV positive neutered male cat approximately 1 and ½ years old has 
gotten very sick suddenly.  He is a house cat, and he was neutered in May of 
2019.  Would you please let us know what we can do to help our much-loved cat?  
A few days ago, he became lethargic and lost interest in eating.  We had his 
blood drawn yesterday and he had iv fluids yesterday, and today we were told he 
needed a blood transfusion (or two) and more iv fluids, and then a bone marrow 
test tomorrow.  We were told that the first blood transfusion today was not 
very effective because he got so many iv fluids at the same time, so now they 
are going to give him another transfusion.  As background, we rescued him as a 
stray from Barbados in October 2018 when he was about 6 months old, and he has 
been healthy, active, happy and gaining weight, despite being FELV positive.  
Since October 2018, we cured him of giardia and bartonella henselae.  On 
12/31/2018, he tested positive for the ELISA and IFA, although his blood work 
was in normal ranges at that time.  In 03/2019, we started giving him 1 t-cyte 
shot once per month, and we started giving him 1ml of interferon per days for 7 
days on and then 7 days off, repeated.  We have continued the interferon and 
t-cyte in this manner ever since 03/2019.  Just yesterday, here are the results 
of his blood work that are not in normal range:
AST (SGOT) 106
Glucose 178
CPK 711
WBC 20.5
RBC 2.5
HGB 4.5
HCT 14
NRBC 9
Platelet Count 78
Neutrophils 1640
Lymphocytes 17630
Monocytes 1025
Basophils 205
Protein 2+
Reticulocyte 0.6 and 15000
Would you please let us know what we can do to help our cat?
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[Felvtalk] Seizure activity in my FeLV cat

2012-10-18 Thread Wendy
Do any of you have experience with seizure activity in your felv kitties?  My 
five and one half year old felv cat has had multiple episodes of what the vet 
believes are small, focal seizures.  They begin with ear twitching, which 
increases until he becomes extremely frightened, he appears to be trying to 
close his eyes and he runs and hides.  Ear mites/fleas have been ruled out.  He 
has vomited on several occasions prior to the episode beginning.  He is healthy 
in all other respects.  Do you have suggestions for management?  This boy is my 
sole survivor of three felv babies we had from six weeks of age.  I love him 
dearly and want to do my very best for him.  Thank you for any suggestions or 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind

2012-02-15 Thread Wendy
Anne,I am so sorry to hear the news about Dublin and we will all hope that with 
time, he will regain sight.  I can only say to you that he has the very best 
Mom to help him through this!  He will adapt to his new circumstances with 
time.  He will also take in all your love and know that he is in such good 
hands...Jasper and I send hugs to you both!Wendy

--- On Wed, 2/15/12, Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, 12:43 PM

 I rescued a blind and deaf 10 year old cat that was left out in an open field 
to die a little over two weeks ago. I hope your cat regains his sight but if he 
doesn't, please don't panic. He will learn to adjust in time. I am so sorry! 
Search the internet. There is a lot of info on there regarding blind cats. 

 
Jannes 




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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind





Sometimes the sight comes back. We had a non-FeLV cat at the shelter that went 
bling after surgery  she slowly regained her sight after a couple weeks.


Beth

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From: Anne Myles anne.my...@uni.edu
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:32 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind


I am devastated -- my FeLV boy Dublin had major dental surgery yesterday to 
remove the rest of his teeth due to severe stomatitis and feline resorptive 
lesions (his third dental surgery in six months).  He came through OK it 
seemed, and his bloodwork turned out to be very promising (his mild anemia 
around December had reversed with his hematocrit in the middle of the normal 
range).  But something seemed off with agitation and his eyes and the vet 
realized that Dublin seems to be blind.  He did all the ocular tests they do 
and nothing physiologically can be found wrong -- no detached retina, no bleed, 
no evidence of hypoxia, etc.  But only his left eye is even minimally reactive 
to light.  The vet believes the blindness to be related to the FeLV, although 
I'm still totally confused about the suddenness of this all.

Dublin has always had something weird about his eyes -- the pupils stay mostly 
dilated
 and while they constrict a little it's definitely not like a normal cat.  I 
wondered if he had an eye problem and could see well even before I adopted him 
and learned he was FeLV+.  But he seemed to see fine.

While Dublin is physically stable he is apparently extremely agitated and the 
vet wants to keep him at the hospital until he settles down and begins to 
adapt.  He was with him until 10:30 last night and says that Dubbie has 
scarcely been out of a tech's arms since.  (He is the most loving, 
people-oriented cat, and is not stressed just from being at the vet -- it's 
almost a joke how much he likes it there.)  I am crazy with distress and also 
with anxiety about bringing him home (have another cat, pretty rowdy, and a 
dog), though everyone says blind cats can do well.

I'd appreciate any encouragement -- or in particular any insight into a 
FeLV-blindness
 link.

Anne

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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Wendy
I have just signed up for felv talk and truly appreciate finding this group!  
After fostering three kittens, our family decided to adopt them when we 
received the results that all three were positive for feline leukemia.  We kept 
all three and have one cat still with us who will turn five years old in May.  
I tell you this to let you know that I have been where you are with Ginger 
twice...in both situations, our kitties had severe anemia.  The first time, I 
know that I let our little one suffer too long due to my difficulty letting her 
go.  The second time, I knew when it was time to euthanize and was able to say 
a peaceful and gentle goodbye.  I listened closely when our vet presented the 
options.  As Marcia said, it's a fine line to walk because you want to do all 
that you can do for your baby but you do not want to see him suffer.  I will 
keep you and Ginger in my good thoughts and am so sorry about the situation.
Wendy

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From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 1:30 PM

Hi
I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through 
what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. Fletch 
died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his suffering. He 
died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, none of us can see 
your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, don't wait to long. 
It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine line to 
walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will actually tell 
you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and Ginger have to 
go through this.

Marcia

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On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote:

 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't 
 see my darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(

2011-04-10 Thread wendy
Terrie,

I am so deeply sorry for your loss.  You must be one strong woman.  Praying for 
peace and comfort for you.  I can't imagine...

:(
Wendy
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From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 10:27:12 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :(

Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me. 
It is hard on me since we have been together for many years. 
He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in 
rescue.
 
My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully in 
his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again. 

 
He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially by 
my Taz as he loved him too.
 

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue
Dedicated to the welfare of animals.
 
 
Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.
 



 From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 8:09:59 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Time to step down from rescuing for a time being.

 Hi all,I'm taking some time off from rescue due to my husband's 
 illness. He
 has
 liver failure and is not a candidate for a transplant. He has been
 hospitalized 2 times this month and once last month he was placed 
 into a
 skill
 nursing facility since the 18th of February after the first trip to 
 the
 hospital.

 He is in the end final stage of his disease his liver has stopped 
 working.
 Can die at any given time. He is being given all the pain meds he 
 wants for
 comfort so he will most likely fall asleep an never wake up again.

 I want to make myself available at all times for him.
 He is only 64 years old... I know to some of you that may sound old 
 but it
 isn't
 really.
 Hospice has been part of this as well to help me cope with all of 
 this.
 Hospice
 is available to me 24 hours a day.

 Sincerely,
 Terrie

 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
 Sultan, WA. 98294
 Terrie Mohr-Forker
 http://tazzys.org/
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 Dedicated to the welfare of animals.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.

2011-03-07 Thread wendy
Dana, 

I'm so sorry to hear about your sweet Buddy.  Prayers for peace for you.

Wendy

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From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 11:59:08 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Buddy left for the Rainbow Bridge today.

HI All, please add my boy Buddy to the list. He was 10 years old, both Felv
and Fiv positive.

He passed earlier today about a half hour after a seizure. He had no prior
seizure activity I was aware of, in fact I thought he was in great condition
and would be around for a couple more years. He went completely limp after
the seizure and at first I actually thought he was dead. But a little breath
showed on the mirror in front of his nose, and then I hoped he would come
round in at least some fashionbut it didn't happen, he was barely
breathing, I couldn't tell if he was conscious or not the whole time - and
then just as we got to the vets, he stopped. There was nothing they could
do. I am really grateful I was home (my worst fear was he would be alone)
and able to be with him when he passed and I really hope he was aware he was
not alone, and I was trying to help him.

He was absolutely an awesome friend, such a patient cat, surprisingly sweet
and playful for an old, very tough ex-TomCat. He was finally getting plump
and really loving scratchies and pets. A total joy for me to see inside,
safe and happy. I knew him the last three years - after feeding him for two,
last winter is the year I caught him and insisted he stay inside.  We worked
really hard to get to a very good place and it was worth it.  He worked the
hardest; he still was willing to trust me.

I am really sad. I miss my friend in my house. His room feels incredibly
empty and even though he wasn't allowed out of his room, I feel the absence
of his physical and spiritual presence everywhere. I am getting him cremated
(in his cozy soft bed he loved, if they will allow it) so he will be back,
sort of, but this is the first time I have had one of my cats in someone
else's care when out of my house. I never leave them alone in a strange
place. I know it's weird but it's creeping me out thinking of him alone,
even if he is curled in his beloved bed, at the doctors office. I didn't
like leaving him there. :(

All, if you can, give your kitties a kiss, a hug and a treat today to thank
them for still being around. I know I am!

Best,

Dana and her 6 other furbabies (Callie, Hobbie, Greyling, Fuzzy, Magical
Forest Creature and Honeybunny Pouf) .
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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses -answer 2 :o)

2011-02-28 Thread wendy
Great! Thank you! The first site has great pics! :) Wendy
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the 
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From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses -answer 2 :o)

Sorry! Didn't read that post properly. For full on cat enclosures, these
sites may work better for companies and ideas:

http://catioshowcase.com/

http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html
http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html

http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures.htm

http://www.catiodesigns.com/

http://habitathaven.com/cat-enclosures.html

http://www.habitatforcats.com/

http://www.kittykouch.com/articles/cathabitat.htm

http://www.wvcats.com/enclosures.htm

http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/catrun.htm

http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/138057-outdoor-cat-habitat-pics.html






http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM, dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER- 
http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER

 The above pretty much compliles all of the affordable ways to make or buy
 cat shelters. I've heard feral villa is very good.

 And btw - if you are making your own, your SPCA should have straw for free
 and your home depot/ lowes will probably give you hard foam insulation for
 free if it's damanged and most of the stock people will find you one.

 They also may sponsor it - you have to write a proposal to the manager and
 give them a week or two to respond. Ask at the desk.

 Also, don't get a clear bin, they are hard to cut, they crack - others are
 easier. Find one that's easy to cut. It may take a little experimenting. :)

 Hope that helps!
 Dana



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 On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with
 heating
 and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends.  Can you recommend the
 kit
 companies you used?

 Thanks Natalie!
 :)
 Wendy
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 change the
 world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade
 ~~~




 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

 Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a
 house?
 We have built our own and also used kits from CA.  We have 4 outdoor
 enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like.
 We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good.
 Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then.
 Natalie

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy
 Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

 Hey guys,

 I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an
 outdoor
 cat house with an attached cat enclosure.  I priced cat enclosures
 (Suncatcher
 Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive.
  I
 can
 build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this
 type of
 fenced structure or on building a cat house.  I am looking at constructing
 a

 wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation.  I'm not
 afraid
 of
 hard work, but not sure where to start.

 Any thoughts?  Resources I can look at that are affordable?
 Thank you!
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[Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

2011-02-27 Thread wendy
Hey guys,

I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an outdoor 
cat house with an attached cat enclosure.  I priced cat enclosures (Suncatcher 
Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive.  I 
can 
build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this type 
of 
fenced structure or on building a cat house.  I am looking at constructing a 
wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation.  I'm not afraid of 
hard work, but not sure where to start.

Any thoughts?  Resources I can look at that are affordable?
Thank you!
Wendy


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

2011-02-27 Thread wendy
It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with heating 
and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends.  Can you recommend the kit 
companies you used?  

Thanks Natalie!
:)
Wendy
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the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a
house?
We have built our own and also used kits from CA.  We have 4 outdoor
enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like.
We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good.
Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then.
Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses

Hey guys,

I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an
outdoor 
cat house with an attached cat enclosure.  I priced cat enclosures
(Suncatcher 
Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive.  I
can 
build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this
type of 
fenced structure or on building a cat house.  I am looking at constructing a

wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation.  I'm not afraid
of 
hard work, but not sure where to start.

Any thoughts?  Resources I can look at that are affordable?
Thank you!
Wendy


  
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[Felvtalk] Sub Q fluids

2011-02-13 Thread wendy
Does anyone know how long the bags can be used?  Do they expire and if so, 
about 
how long?

Thanks,
:)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tweeze is gone.

2011-02-05 Thread wendy
Sue, 

Thank you for sharing the video of your beautiful Tweezer with us.  He was just 
gorgeous!  And so, so lucky to have you loving him.  Prayers for peace and 
comfort for you.

Wendy
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From: Frank  Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com
To: FeLV talk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:05:46 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tweeze is gone.

Tweezer lost his battle with this horrible disease this afternoon.  He had
an aggressive lymphoma so there was no hope that he would get better or that
he could even be made more comfortable.  He crashed at the beginning of this
week and was having spasms that were making it very difficult for him to
eat, drink or even to stand.  He has been very unhappy and scared all week
long.  

When I took Tweezer in he was extremely malnourished and had worms, ear
mites, goopy eyes and an upper respiratory infection.  As his health
improved he became such a happy cat!  He was so happy to be alive, he always
wanted to play and be loved.  This is a you-tube link to a video I took of
him a few months ago.  He would come to me and ask me to come and play with
him and then lead me to the toys.



http://www.youtube.com/user/katlover13100#p/a/u/2/xXvteShI_Ig



Rest in peace my darling Tweezer.  My heart is breaking but at least there
is no feline leukemia where you are now.





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Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky is an angel

2011-01-02 Thread wendy
Stacy,

I have not read the FeLV site emails in months, but had time to read Spanky's 
whole story today.  I just saw this email come up, right after reading your 
story, and I'm so sorry to hear about your loss.  I was wow'ed while reading by 
your perseverance and love for Spanky.  I'm dealing with EGC with my cat 
Smookie, and the posts made regarding Spanky will help me with researching a 
better treatment.  Thank you.  All your posts will be helpful to other furbaby 
owners who are fighting this disease, so thank you for taking the time to write 
them.  Again, I'm so sorry about your Spanky.  Sending prayers for peace and 
comfort for you.

Wendy
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From: S Z szbigcatsr...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 12:11:54 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Spanky is an angel

Hello everyone:

We haven't posted much on this list for awhile since Spanky was diagnosed
with cranial mediastinal lymphoma. It is with a broken heart that I am
posting to say that Spanky lost his battle with FELV and lymphoma on New
Year's eve day.  He had a seizure earlier in the week after taking an
appetite stimulant and things went downhill this past week and his
phosphorous was so low the vet said they had never seen a cat with  low phos
like this, and he developed severe non-regenerative anemia.  His type of
lymphoma was fast growing and he wasn't able to have a chemo treatment for
weeks either.

Thank you so much to everyone on this list, your kitties, your angels for
all the help and support and love you've shown to us. You were an absolutely
wonderful support network.  Without this group we wouldn't have tried the
LCTI imulan, interferon or the many supplements we learned about like
Transfer factor etc.

I wish all of you the best in 2011 and beyond and will purray your furbabies
stay as healthy as they possibly can.
We send purrayers and healing thoughts to all of you.
Thanks again
Stacy and Angel Spanky
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[Felvtalk] Best online price for L-Lysine?

2010-12-05 Thread wendy
Hey guys,

Where do you order your L-lysine from (for those of you who order it online) 
and 
about how much are you paying for it?  I can't find in my archives any websites 
to order from, so thought I would just ask.

Thank you!
:)
Wendy



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Best online price for L-Lysine?

2010-12-05 Thread wendy
Thank you so much for the sources!  :) Wendy
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the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~





From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 4:18:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Best online price for L-Lysine?

I buy the L-lysine powder to avoid additives.  I get 1 lb containers from 
iHerbs.
http://www.iherb.com/L-Lysine

No idea if there is a cheaper source for the pure powder.
Sharyl 

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 From: Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Best online price for L-Lysine?
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 3:50 PM
 I got mine at Puritan's Pride when
 they have the buy one get three free.
 Which I belive is going on right now. I get my vitamins
 there too for me.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

2010-03-26 Thread wendy
Laura, 

I'm so sorry to hear about your Bridget. I hope that you realize that you did 
not kill her. Your guilt is normal, but not founded. She was lucky to have you 
loving and caring so well for her. 

Again, I'm very sorry you lost her. I pray for healing and comfort for you.
Wendy
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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 3:45:50 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead

Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly 
under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now 
she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby 
Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been 
the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if 
anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe 
made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know 
whether I killed my cat.
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Re: [Felvtalk] some comfort

2010-03-26 Thread wendy
Wow...is all I can say. That brought tears to my eyes.  Thank you for sharing.

Wendy
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From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:10:38 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] some comfort

I think I mentioned a few days ago that I would be speaking with an animal 
communicator about Bridget. That happened tonight. I do feel better. I'd been 
so upset about my decision to have her spayed in spite of my apprehension, but 
he said he felt she had a weak immune system, perhaps liver problems, and the 
body she had wouldn't have lasted long. He said the vet did give her too much 
anesthesia - it was the standard amount for a cat her size, but it was just too 
much for her because she had some underlying problems. 
It was interesting. He said she'd been part of a litter with other cats who 
looked very much like her (very true) and who had the same problem (her brother 
died in September). He did say that he didn't see Chutney or the other cats 
around her, even though he knew that I had had other cats who had passed.
This is where it gets strange. He said, She's showing me a whole lot of other 
cats and says you just got two more cats. (yes, the FeLV+ cat from Smyrna and 
one from work who tested positive for FIV so I just kept him.) These cats came 
just a few days ago. He said, be prepared, she says more cats will be coming. 
He wanted to know if I worked in rescue, and I do work at a shelter. I asked 
him if she said anything about other animals, and he said she was talking about 
a medium sized, very noisy black dog (she kept saying I heard the dog) who 
hadn't been around for very long (I just got that dog back in early January). 
That's a dog who would always jump up at her when I let the dogs into the 
house, and she's the noisiest damn dog ever. And he said she kept mentioning a 
farm and some other sort of animal, but he wasn't sure what. I don't have farm 
animals but I do have a ton of turtles who spend winters in the garage with the 
positive cats  summers
outdoors. That might be what he was referring to.
I asked him whether she liked where she was buried. He said, She says it's a 
memorial garden with flowers and a big oak tree, and she's with others. Very 
true! And the strangest thing: I wondered if she was still around, and he said, 
You have a very big, comfortable bed with a very soft burgundy or wine colored 
throw on it, and that's where she is. And yes - it's a thick, double fleece 
wine colored big blanket, and it's always on the bed, and the cats and the dogs 
love it as much as I do.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell

2009-12-23 Thread wendy
Sally,

I am a huge believer in Vit C, not only for animals, but humans as well.  This 
week I have been fighting off a cold since Friday, and popping 1000 mg of Vit C 
every 1-4 hours, on and off.  Had I not been popping the Vit C, I know from 
past experience I'd already have been to the doc.  My friend's family owns an 
alternative treatment center here in the town where I live, and they do Vit C 
IV therapy on their patients.  I also believe in the value of L-lysine as an 
anti-viral, although we've had some very interesting conversations here 
debating that fact.

:)
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Re: [Felvtalk] gassy cat

2009-12-13 Thread wendy
Stop feeding him Mexican food...LOLOLOL!
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From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 7:43:21 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] gassy cat

Harley is sleeping in my arm as i write, passing gas big time.  he has done 
this before and you can smell it all the way across the room.  any suggestions 
as to why?  is he eating too fast?  gets same food as Dee, Hill's kitten 
healthy development.  Lord have mercy, i love him, but!  dorlis

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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-07 Thread wendy
Sharyl,

I am so sorry about Butterball and Smoky Jo.  And God, I hate PETA too, for so 
many reasons, this one above all  They are a bunch of kooks.  They are way 
over the top, and it would be really nice if we could exterminate anyone in 
PETA who is not in perfect health.  Maybe then they would finally get the 
message.  

I can't imagine how you feel, and if I were in your shoes, I'm not sure I would 
be sane enough for a while to make any rational decisions because I would be so 
angry, I wouldn't know what to do with myself.  Nothing angers me more than 
innocent animals being harmed.

Again, I'm so sorry...
Wendy
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From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 1:51:08 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed.  Then 
Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is organizing here on the Eastern 
Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals.  Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came 
to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and Butterball.  My 
other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is 
$200 per cat at the animal hospital.    

I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The release form I signed said they 
could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV.  I explained to the vet 
I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure.  She 
checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions.  I should have left then 
but both of mine seemed healthy.  When I went to pick them up I found out they 
had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated.

PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van 
spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed.  
PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.

Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me 
is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV.  But FIV is 
generally spread by deep bites.  Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be 
fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess.  Then they 
kept my money.

Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA 
policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any 
future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find 
some other way to have them fixed.

I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither 
was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the 
heavens were crying with me for them. 

Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
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Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address

2009-12-07 Thread wendy
With that line of thinking, I guess PETA also believes that people with AIDS or 
inoperable/untreatable cancer should also be put out of their misery too...

Ridiculous!  I am p_ssed right now!
:(
Wendy
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From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 9:13:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address

Aren't they vehemently opposed to any pet ownership at all? But I simply
don't get why they would consider this treatment ethical -- nor how they
can justify killing animals by saying they're saving them from future
suffering that might never happen -- and in Sharyl's case, would NOT have
happened. These people need slapping down. 

Diane R.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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What was their reason for this/ did they give one? 
Unconscionable act.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PETA's e-mail address

well, actually, as some folks have hinted at, they are just as bad about
household cats as they are about ferals.

these folks are NOT friends to animals--anyone have links to the VA case
where they were taking adoptables from shelters, supposedly to adopt them
out, then euthing them in the back of their van--and leaving the bodies in
shopping mall dumpsters? i think the only thing they ended up convicted of
was possession of drugs without a license or something similar, as animals
are just property, after all, with no intrinsic value.

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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie's bloodwork results/hemobart pos

2009-07-12 Thread wendy
Amy, 

It sounds like you have it under control and are doing the best you can, with 
your vet's and Belinda's wonderful help!  Wolfie is VERY lucky to have you 
looking out for him.  I bet you see great results with the doxy since his test 
came up positive for the hemobart (but I think it takes a week or two to 
work).  Please keep us posted on Wolfie!

:)
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From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:09:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie's bloodwork results/hemobart pos


He had a blood draw on July 2nd.  We did hemobart, CBC, and a thyroid panel.  
We started him on pred Thursday evening when we got the hemobart results and we 
started him on doxy and Pet-Tinic yesterday.  I'll check into getting Nutrived, 
thanks!  Good idea about the ear tip to check the HCT.  We don't want to do the 
full draw for a couple weeks because I guess the full panel really does take a 
lot of blood so we want to see how he responds to this before doing a large 
draw.  

I don't know what the HCT is right now but he's not acting any different where 
I suspect it's decreasing rapidly.  I didn't want to keep taking him and 
checking it if his symptoms aren't changing because my vet is 45 minutes away 
and I thought the stress wouldn't be great for him.  Do you think I should be 
constantly checking it even if he's not acting lethargic or anemic?

Amy  

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 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie's bloodwork results/hemobart pos
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:06 PM
 PS.  How long has he been on the
 Pet Tinic and how long has he been getting the pred and
 doxy?  When was the last time he had a blood
 draw?  On the last draw is that when his HCT was
 29%?  They can always take a tiny bit of blood from the
 ear tip to check the HCT and if it is OK then do the full
 draw.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

2009-06-29 Thread wendy
Ok, this might be a great idea!  I wonder how they balance it/keep it from 
tumping over?  It must have extra heavy plastic on the bottom.  Thanks so 
much!  I have tried other types of litter.  She's just weird...lol!

:)
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From: Kat kathryn.mund...@baesystems.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:20:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

Hi Wendy,

They do make a top-opening litter box:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0002ZS20I/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8n=284507s=kitchen

But maybe Pepper is objecting to the texture of the litter on her paws?
Have you tried using different litter - or even an empty litter box?

Also, if nothing else works, you could get some of the doggy pee pads to
put under the box - that way the urine gets absorbed by the pads  makes
clean-up much easier.

Good Luck!

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, wendy wrote:

 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
 From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
 
 Hey guys,
 
 I haven't posted much in the past few months. Can hardly keep up with
 life offline, much less online. I hope all of you are doing well, as
 well as your furbabies.
 
 I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty,
 Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and
 of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the
 box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the
 urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days). She's
 been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all
 of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and
 was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your
 cats and how you deal with it? I've tried different kitty boxes, but
 as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that
 direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was
 thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to
 direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there?
 
 Thanks! :) Wendy  

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: DNA

2009-06-29 Thread wendy
Oh ok.  Makes sense.  Thanks Gloria!  :)
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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:32:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: DNA

I think she means do not adopt.  Course location is pretty  
important, wonder where it is.  I figure it's not in Arkansas,, so  
didn't respond.

Gloria



On Jun 28, 2009, at 11:11 PM, wendy wrote:

 What is a confidential DNA?

 Thanks,
 Wendy
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 can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever  
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 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:18:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: DNA

 All,
 I have a confidential DNA. If you want to inquire, please email me
 privately.
 Thanks,
 Laurie lauriesk...@mchsi.com




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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

2009-06-29 Thread wendy
Great ideas!  Thank you guys!  I wish I would have known about heating the 
plastic before cutting.  Would have thrown one less fit...lol!

:)
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From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:29:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

While everyone is talking about totes:  They make nice shelters for cats, 
especially if they are insulated and filled with pine needles (Mom's ferals and 
four of my cats all came from a pine thicket) or straw.
On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Sharyl wrote:

 
 Wendy, since Pepper is healthy I wouldn't bother putting any opening in the 
 tote.  I use the large Rubbermaid totes for litter boxes.  Mine just jump in 
 them.  As Leroy got into his late teens, he had trouble getting in the tote.  
 I just put a small rubbermaid stool next to it.  He used that to climb in.
 
 I did save the hood of an old litter box that I set on top of one tote for 
 when the kitties want privacy.  It doesn't snap on but the tote is in a 
 corner and it balances on the tote pretty good.  The girls seem to like 
 privacy when they poop.  All of my boys have always stood up to pee.  Don't 
 know why.  That's why I went to totes.
 
 For the dumpster rescues in the cat enclosure, I left the lid on the tote and 
 cut a opening in one of the small sides.  Keeps the rain out of the litter 
 and they don't seem to have any problems getting in it.  Found it easier to 
 cut the tote after heating the side with a heat gun.  A hair dryer would 
 probably work.  Then I covered the edges with duct tape so they wouldn't hurt 
 themselves.
 
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Sun, 6/28/09, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 4:38 PM
 Hey guys,
 
 I haven't posted much in the past few months.  Can hardly
 keep up with life offline, much less online.  I hope all of
 you are doing well, as well as your furbabies.
 
 I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a
 healthy kitty, Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter
 box opening and peeing, and of course it goes outside the
 box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a
 Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but
 still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days).  She's
 been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up.
 But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell
 and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a
 similar sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with
 it?  I've tried different kitty boxes, but as long as they
 have an opening, the pee is going in that
 direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with
 this. I was thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on
 the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any
 ideas out there?
 
 Thanks!
 :)
 Wendy
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 citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing
 that ever has!    ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about a new kitty (feral)

2009-06-28 Thread wendy
I am sitting here typing with my previously feral cat lying next to me, her 
head on my leg looking up at me. I had no choice but to trap her when in NC for 
my grandmother's funeral because she was my grandma's cat and my uncle was 
going to trap her anyway and release her at some farm...g...  Anyway, 
couldn't find a home for her while I was there, so she made the trip back to 
Texas with me and did beautifully. The day after we arrived back home, I opened 
her cage at my house in a very small room and she let me touch her after she'd 
explored the room. That was two years ago, and she doesn't even want to leave 
the house now to go outside, uses the litter box religiously, and in my 
opinion, is a very happy, mostly domesticated kitty.  

I am no expert, but if you truly want to adopt/domesticate her, it might be 
better to trap her and do the things Chris was talking about.  Good luck with 
the kitten.  

:)
Wendy
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From: expressprin...@aol.com expressprin...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:07:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about a new kitty

Hi Folks:

You all were such a big help to me last summer when we rescued a little cat who 
was diagnosed with feline leukemia. Sadly, we lost little Smokey but?my 
husband?is now in the process of trying to tame and catch?a wild little kitten 
that is on?his job. He's?eating the?food he gives him?but he will not let him 
touch him. Any suggestions? Also, what is the chance that an abandoned kitten 
has feline leukemia? Does it help to catch the decease early?

Thank you for your help,
Kathryn


-Original Message-
From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D




Some PetsMart stores have an attached vet clinic called Banfield.
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

 From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:54 PM
 It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d.
 
 Gary
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 But is it simply called A/D with Banfield?? What is
 Banfield?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Susan 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Debbie
 Harrison
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
 
 
 I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet
 
 Debbie (COL)
 Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard
 battle? Philo
 
 
  
 
 
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[Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

2009-06-28 Thread wendy
Hey guys,

I haven't posted much in the past few months.  Can hardly keep up with life 
offline, much less online.  I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your 
furbabies.

I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, Pepper, 
who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of course it 
goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I even use a 
Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it gets quite 
ripe after a couple of days).  She's been doing this for years and I just keep 
cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and 
the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any 
of your cats and how you deal with it?  I've tried different kitty boxes, but 
as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that direction. There's 
got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was thinking maybe I could make 
some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct the pee to a receptacle??? Any 
ideas out there?

Thanks!
:)
Wendy
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

2009-06-28 Thread wendy
Thank you! I have a rubbermaid container in there right now, however I think I 
cut the opening too low, so going to Walmart to get another and will try again. 
Hopefully this will work a little better.  :)
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From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:51:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

I use 18 gallon rubbermaid (or knock-off) totes.  Depending on age and 
condition, your cat may be able to jump in to the tote.  This works for Copper 
and Thomas and worked for Dixie.  I started this with Ebony who was getting a 
little older and had touble getting down.  The urine hit the back of the tote 
and eliminated a lot of problems (yes, you have to clean it more often if this 
happens but I would rather clean plastic than drywall).  I cut a U-shaped piece 
out of the tote on a short end for Ebony.  If you find you have to make the cut 
out make it high so Pepper has to really work at hitting the opening.  I never 
put a lid on the tote.  Do not put too much litter in the tote.  It is tempting 
to put extra in but you don't need it and it may make it uncomfortable for the 
cat to walk.
On Jun 28, 2009, at 3:38 PM, wendy wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I haven't posted much in the past few months.  Can hardly keep up with life 
 offline, much less online.  I hope all of you are doing well, as well as your 
 furbabies.
 
 I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty, 
 Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and of 
 course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the box (I 
 even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the urine, but still it 
 gets quite ripe after a couple of days).  She's been doing this for years and 
 I just keep cleaning it up. But as all of you probably can identify, I hate 
 the smell and the clean-up, and was wondering if any of you have a similar 
 sitation with any of your cats and how you deal with it?  I've tried 
 different kitty boxes, but as long as they have an opening, the pee is going 
 in that direction. There's got to be an easier way to deal with this. I was 
 thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to direct 
 the pee to a receptacle??? Any ideas out there?
 
 Thanks!
 :)
 Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!    ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: DNA

2009-06-28 Thread wendy
What is a confidential DNA?

Thanks,
Wendy
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From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:18:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: DNA

All,
I have a confidential DNA. If you want to inquire, please email me
privately. 
Thanks,
Laurie lauriesk...@mchsi.com




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Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS

2009-05-09 Thread wendy
Laura,

I haven't been on here in a while, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am that 
you lost Charlotte.  It sounds like she was very lucky to have you loving her.  
Prayers for peace going out to you.

Wendy
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From: Laura Mostello hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:51:19 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS


Charlotte has just passed away.
I came home from work, went into her room and she was lying on her side, crying 
and breathing heavily. I ran and let my dogs out, came back to her and held her 
for what turned out to be about 4 hours. She gradually slowed down, but was 
responding to my voice for quite a while. Eventually that stopped and I knew 
she was probably unconscious. She passed at the stroke of midnight, and I know 
it sounds crazy, but I immediately felt so calm - I can only explain it by 
saying that as soon as she died I physically felt her suffering end. It was so 
strange. I am sitting here crying as I write this even though I know it's 
better and she won't be in pain any more. But she'd been doing so well and 
eating like a pig. Just this morning she was stuffing her face with chicken. So 
I thought that maybe I could have her with me for just a while longer, and just 
maybe she'd be one who survived despite the odds. Guess I was wrong. I hate 
this disease.
Thanks everyone for all your help.
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

2009-03-09 Thread wendy
Hi Tonya,

I'm sorry to hear about Shaft, and your other sick kitty.  Shaft lived a long 
time!!!  He was a lucky kitty to have had you!  :)

Prayers going out for your comfort,
Take care,
Wendy
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From: catatonya catato...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:45:15 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bridge Addition- Shaft

Hello Everyone,
 
I know I haven't been online much lately.  I've had 2 very sick (felv -) 
kitties.  On Tuesday I had to have my big boy Shaft euthanized.  He had 
hyperthyroid, lymphoma, etc... He lived 15 years with me and I don't know how 
old he was when I pulled him from the shelter, but he was old.  My other sick 
cat (Bob) is doing well with his crf for now.  It seems like my positive cat 
(knock on wood) is my healthiest cat. lol.  It just goes to show you what a 
shame it is that people put down cats for being positive.
 
I'm sorry for any losses I've not responded to.  I know how you feel.  :(
 
tonya


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS

2009-03-06 Thread wendy
Hey Sherry,

I'm sorry to hear about Flanagan and the rest of your rescue babies who have 
passed over the bridge.  I hope this message finds you well.  As always, you 
are an angel for what you do.

:)
Wendy
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From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:45:39 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Flanagan Please add to the CLS

Well we sadly lost another one of our Sids kids.Flanagan was quite the spunky 
boy.He was an orange tiger that LOVED to wash windows! He has had his ups and 
downs in the passed six months.And just recently got a bunch of his feisty 
silliness back,even just this Monday he helped me do the special feedings and 
kept me company.He passed away during the night last night and I feel for the 
volunteers that went in and found him this morning.I would have been 
devastated.We knew his time was getting shorter but he just made a major 
comeback.Maybe he was just giving us a last glimpse of the Flanny we have ALL 
came to love.We love you baby boy.
Sherry


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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey

2009-02-14 Thread wendy
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? Diagnosed at 2.5 yo

WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? I didn't do anything until he became 
symptomatic at 4.5 yo, which is when I found this list

WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? Science Diet then; Innova Evo now

WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH? Mine are all 
indoor; I let them go in the backyard with me sometimes, but only under 
supervision

LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? My FeLV+ did live in the house with my 3 others, 
none of which became positive; they were vaccinated

HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? At 2.5 yo, 
when he was diagnosed, he had all his nails ripped out from running from a dog, 
going up a brick column trying to get away.  His nails got infected, and he got 
very sick, which the vet didn't catch.  He just ran tests and said FeLV+, and 
gave up on him.  I finally figured out what happened when the vet had tested 
him for FeLV and then just left him in his cage with no treatment, even after I 
asked him to give IV fluids if he wasn't taking water, which he wasn't.  I had 
a horrible gut feeling, and left work to go check on him, and found him lying 
in his cage, almost lifeless, no fight left in him, and the vet wasn't taking 
care of him.  Took him home with anti-biotics and nursed him back to health 
with fluids and assist feeding every hour or so, and antibiotics.  I noticed 
his feet then, and realized what must have happened.  He was fine for another 
two years, until a
 hurricane hit Texas and my ex-husband's family came to stay with us for a week 
(10 of them) and it stressed my kitty out and he developed anemia.  He died 
about three weeks later.    

WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? 4.5 yo

WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? anemia.  I did not treat with doxycycline for hemobart at 
the time.  Had I a do-over, I certainly would have.  Strongly suspect he might 
have had hemobart, but at the time, I did not know about hemobart, and frankly 
was overwhelmed trying to help him and deal with his illness and quick demise.  
It was heartbreaking.

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge

2009-02-14 Thread wendy
Terrie,

I am so sorry to hear about your mother's passing.  You have been such a kind 
and caring, not to mention valuable, member of this group.  I pray that all 
your kindnesses are repaid in the way of comfort and peace for you while 
grieving the passing of your mother.  She must have been some lady to have 
raised a woman like you.  

God bless you and your family,
Wendy
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From: tatorb...@aol.com tatorb...@aol.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:50:08 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge


Hello  everyone,
I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel  
little better. 
To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior  emails.
Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording.

Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails, phone  
calls, also in person to my mother and myself.
With  great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this morning. 
As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father.
I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to feed  
and do litter boxes.

She was an  avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and kittens.
She was a  reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's.
Her breed was  Siamese and Persian cats.
In the last  20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into her  
home.
They were  given very much needed love and care.
When she  would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home during the 
last year  she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home.
She would  call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my 
personal kitties.  So she could be around them all and give them plenty of 
love. 
She took such  pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly.
Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get away  
with it.

Her services  will be at a later date.
I will let  you all know.
My brother is  putting article in the local newspaper about her within the 
next day or  two.

Thanks again  for all your support in the past and present regarding my  
mother!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

2009-02-14 Thread wendy
I have personally witnessed Lysine clear up a corneal ulcer in my kitten that 
the meds the vet prescribed would not clear up.  She was off all other meds, on 
the lysine for 10-14 days, and it started going away.  Thank God because she'd 
already lost one eye to an ulcer before I adopted her.  I assume, but can't 
say, that both ulcers were most likely caused by the herpes virus.  

Plus, lysine is an amino acid and does boost the immune system (or at the very 
least maintains it) in the way it operates in the body.  It helps to build 
proteins, etc., as well as keep viruses from replicating.  This is what I wrote 
back in August regarding this issue:

There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our 
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants, 
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody 
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our 
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but 
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system 
because the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  
Here is an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies: 
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to 
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue 
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies (used 
by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our 
bodies).  It's a building block of our very
 cells.  And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, 
immune system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company 
that sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino 
acid.  Lysine deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I 
think that it's possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, 
so maybe our furry friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because 
of the virus.  I don't think the studies have been done on this particular 
issue.  And if anyone knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm 
not a doctor, vet, or scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common 
sense to make logical inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to 
show that link lysine to the immune system because, from what I understand, 
it's common knowledge in the science/medical world.  It would be like trying to 
find studies linking blood to the
 heart.

:)
Wendy
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From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 1:16:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

I can't comment on the study as I haven't seen it, but lysine is recommended
by many feline opthamologists for the treatment of herpes.  It is also in
the Merck Veterinary Manual.

Also, I have 2 cats with this condition and lysine keeps their eyes clear.
If I stop the lysine the eyes get runny again.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement

My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was 
aware of only one
controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes.  He said that the 
study showed that
L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that 
it had absolutely no
effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks.  Apparently these are not 
the same results
that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on 
continuing outbreaks.

I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its 
use in cats however
in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak.


L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective 
against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Your Inquiry on Beechnut.com/mh102079

2009-01-10 Thread wendy
Thank you for this!!

:)
Wendy
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From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:46:11 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Your Inquiry on Beechnut.com/mh102079

FYI for all needing to assist feed their bbies.  sorry, LIL bIT  JUST JOINED 
ME.  DORLIS
 From: mary...@beechnut.com
 Subject: Your Inquiry on Beechnut.com/mh102079
 To: dlg...@windstream.net
 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:13:57 -0500
 
 
 Dear Ms. Grote,
 Thank you for contacting Beech-Nut.  You will be happy to learn that all
 Beech-Nut® Stage 1® meat  poultry varieties are simply that variety of
 meat, or poultry, and a portion of the water it was cooked in (broth)
 necessary for the pureeing of the meat.  The water listed in our
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tora's under jaw lymp node swollen

2009-01-10 Thread wendy
Hey Amanda,

Has your vet suggested steriod shots for the stomatitis, such as depomedrol or 
prednisolone.

:)
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From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:13:36 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tora's under jaw lymp node swollen

Hi all, I was wondering what should I do, my cat has FeLV related stomatitis 
and again his lymp nodes on the right side is swollen, should he again take 
interefon? or just the antibiotics? I think his stomach/mouth irritation is 
from eating a pice of cake which he stole from the table last week! Please 
advise! hugs Amanda and Tora.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Benny

2009-01-10 Thread wendy
April,

Did the vet put him on a 3 week round of doxycycline for possilbe 
hemobartanella?  Even if he has hemobart, it might not show up on a slide 
because of the nature of the parasites (sometimes they show up, sometimes they 
don't...weird).  Hemobart will cause anemia (low blood count).  At this point, 
it would not hurt to get him on the doxy, especially since most vets will close 
in the next few hours.  Doxy has pulled many a cat out of dire straights.  
FeLV+'s are prone to getting hemobart.

Please keep us posted and I wish Benny a quick recovery!
:)
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils update

2009-01-04 Thread wendy
Hi guys,

Well, I took Smookie in to the doc and the vet opened her mouth and said, 
Whoa!  From Thursday to Friday, Smookie had developed tiny little bubbles 
on the inflamed area in the back of her mouth, and this morning when I gave her 
her antibiotic, I noticed the roof of her mouth is now red and irritated.  
Whatever she has, it's moving fast.  There was no redness on Friday when I took 
her in, which is probably why the vet did not say Stomatitis.  The vet said she 
wasn't exactly sure what it was without a biopsy (just a bunch of normal 
colored tissue in the back of her mouth), and she didn't want to do that right 
away until we tried some drugs first.  She wanted to give her a steroid shot, 
but because I suspect Smookie has feline herpes because of her history of 
corneal ulcers, I wanted to try the antibiotics first since steriods tend to 
surpress the immune system further.  Even though she did not have a fever, I 
figured something bacterial was
 going on because of the yucky drool she's been having at night (which I 
originally thought was coming out the other end, and had a fecal done about 3 
weeks ago which showed nothing).  Not sure that bypassing the steriod shot was 
such a good idea now since her mouth is getting red.  I will probably take her 
back in tomorrow and get the shot for her.  She pilled great the first two 
days, not so much this morning.  She can be a little devil if she wants to be.  
I did some research and the good news is, if it is Stomatis and it can't be 
controlled with normal treatment, there is an 85% cure rate with extraction, so 
that's hopeful.  Wish us luck that this goes away as fast as it's coming on.  
Any input/advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much,
Wendy and Smookie
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From: wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 10:55:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils??

Hey Gloria,

That's what I thought at first, but Smookie's gums are not at all red or 
swollen.  I think Kerry may have hit it on the head because Smookie does have 
herpes (or I assume so, due to her severe corneal ulcers when I first adopted 
her) and that is one of the symptoms because the virus replicates in the 
tonsils.  Who knew?  Taking her to vet today at 2:15.  Will let you guys know 
how it goes.  Thank you

:)
Wendy
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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:41:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils??

Hey Wendy -

Sounds like Stomatitis.  My Toby (b  w male, older adult) has that in the back 
of his throat.  Vet said give Depo shot periodically.  We're also trying 
penicillin injections, and I'm trying Georges Aloe Vera orally.  Last night I 
gave him some homeopathic arnica

Gloria



On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:58 PM, wendy wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I have an FeLV- kitty, Smookie, who I noticed when she was yawning that she 
 had these huge things in the back of each side of her throat.  They look like 
 two giant cauliflowers or lettuce heads; one on each side.  I also notice 
 that it seems she has swollen lymph nodes on each side of her throat on the 
 outside.  Have any of you ever heard of a kitty with infected tonsils or 
 tonsils having to be removed?  Now that I think about it, she's had the lumps 
 on her throat for a while, months, but I just thought when I petted her that 
 was how her throat was.  I didn't realize she had these growth-looking things 
 on the inside of her throat!
 
 Any help is appreciated!
 Thanks,
 Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!    ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils??????

2009-01-02 Thread wendy
Hey Gloria,

That's what I thought at first, but Smookie's gums are not at all red or 
swollen.  I think Kerry may have hit it on the head because Smookie does have 
herpes (or I assume so, due to her severe corneal ulcers when I first adopted 
her) and that is one of the symptoms because the virus replicates in the 
tonsils.  Who knew?  Taking her to vet today at 2:15.  Will let you guys know 
how it goes.  Thank you

:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~ 





From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:41:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils??

Hey Wendy -

Sounds like Stomatitis.  My Toby (b  w male, older adult) has that in the back 
of his throat.  Vet said give Depo shot periodically.  We're also trying 
penicillin injections, and I'm trying Georges Aloe Vera orally.  Last night I 
gave him some homeopathic arnica

Gloria



On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:58 PM, wendy wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I have an FeLV- kitty, Smookie, who I noticed when she was yawning that she 
 had these huge things in the back of each side of her throat.  They look like 
 two giant cauliflowers or lettuce heads; one on each side.  I also notice 
 that it seems she has swollen lymph nodes on each side of her throat on the 
 outside.  Have any of you ever heard of a kitty with infected tonsils or 
 tonsils having to be removed?  Now that I think about it, she's had the lumps 
 on her throat for a while, months, but I just thought when I petted her that 
 was how her throat was.  I didn't realize she had these growth-looking things 
 on the inside of her throat!
 
 Any help is appreciated!
 Thanks,
 Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!    ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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[Felvtalk] OT: Swollen tonsils??????

2009-01-01 Thread wendy
Hey guys,

I have an FeLV- kitty, Smookie, who I noticed when she was yawning that she had 
these huge things in the back of each side of her throat.  They look like two 
giant cauliflowers or lettuce heads; one on each side.  I also notice that it 
seems she has swollen lymph nodes on each side of her throat on the outside.  
Have any of you ever heard of a kitty with infected tonsils or tonsils having 
to be removed?  Now that I think about it, she's had the lumps on her throat 
for a while, months, but I just thought when I petted her that was how her 
throat was.  I didn't realize she had these growth-looking things on the inside 
of her throat!

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Re: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, (long)

2008-12-29 Thread wendy
Amanda,

I am so sorry to hear about your beloved kitty.  Please don't blame yourself.  
It sounds like you loved him very much and did ALL you could for him, out of 
love.  And yes, 7 years is a long time!  A lot of FeLV+'s don't even live 
past 2-3 years.  Mine lived 4.5 and I felt lucky to have had him that long.  He 
developed anemia.  The best you can do is feed a good diet, supplement with 
immune boosting things like l-lysine, etc., and keep kitty stress free.  
That's all we can do really.  And love them to pieces.  Other than that, it's 
up to the good Lord how long we are blessed with their presence, as any of our 
loved ones are.  Please ask any specific questions you may have and the 
archives are a great place to look for really good info.  Take care and I hope 
you are comforted by all the good memories you have of Silver Chan.

:)
Wendy
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From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:18:27 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] my cat died age 7, have anorther FeLV cat, please advise, 
(long)

Hi all, I'm Amanda I live in Japan, I don't know if I was a member 
here before or not, I keep going from group to group, but I need 
advice please. I just lost last week my beloved cat he was minus 4 
months almost 7 years old! He was diagnosed when he was about 1 1/2 
years old along with his sister. He also had a heart murmur that 
developed into a full heart problem when he was 3 years old. Besides 
taking the interferon when first had FeLV he never took any other 
medications, he was treated holistically and was on a raw diet, he 
would have cat food as a treat. He was very well sometimes had 
diarrea if ate too many bugs outside or ate a rat! He was an outside 
cat, but since just over 2 years ago I decided to have him on a 
harness and kept him inside as one of our cats got into a fight and 
had a heart attack ! He was healthy even. My cat (Sorry his name was 
Silver chan), at first cried to go outside, I had an outside cage 
for him too, and he soon ajusted to life on the leash, I'd take him 
for many walks aday as I could. Sometimes we'd be attacked by the 
neighbours tom cat (my cats are all neutered) and twice my cat got 
stressed out and bit me instead as a result! But other wise he was 
good natured. Since last fall 2007, I noticed that he didn't put on 
weight on, I even forgot about that it could be related to having 
FeLV , I thought maybe because he's on the leash and can't catch prey 
much now, sometimes he still did! Those days I was spoiling him with 
extra cat food with added rice, my husbands suggestion, I thought it 
was o.k since he did have abit of rice maybe once a week with fish, 
but he soon started getting stomach aches, so I stopped it, but would 
still sometimes give a teaspoon of cat food as a treat, mostly I'd 
try natural ones with no or low salt. I tried to keep him as stress 
free as possible knowing he had a heart problem. He was also on DMG, 
CoQ10, natto, and probiotics, for his heart. This year suddenly his 
voice changed abit, so off to the vets and they thought it maybe 
stress related, though I had gave him some chicken cat food that I 
never gave before, so I stopped that and soon his voice became normal 
again, that time was May and we had all the tests and x rays, and 
nothing was found. During the summer sometimes he would vomit and he 
always ate grass and maybe more lately, once or twice he vomitted a 
little blood, I thought he just had a delicate stomach, so took care 
not to give him too much food, ( he ate 3 small meals aday) He always 
had some stress from stray cats passing on garden /land, taht May he 
growled at one, so not sure if it was related. Anyway we adopted 3 
more cats this summer, he's very good with other cats, but he would 
get annoyed if they followed us on our walks, but we soon left them 
and went alone which he loved but he didn't mind sharing the house 
with them. Well just over 3 weeks ago I noticed him breathing fast, 
I thought his heart had worsened but it was lymphoma cancer in his 
chest and fluid arround his lungs, we tried chemo but made him worst 
and he lost alot of weight, so he was just made comfortable for the 
last weeks, he died on the 22nd. Of course I'm going through the self 
blame phrase, I wish I hadn't given him cat food as snacks! and many 
other things, I have anorther cat who has it now, he had interferon 
and is now better and is on a raw diet and lactoferrin and digestive 
enzymes, is there anything else I can do for him? And do you think 
my cat Silver chan could have lived longer? I mean when he first lost 
weight last year, maybe he should have had interferon again? I'm sure 
it was all FeLV related but what could I or should I have done? I 
really thought he

Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?)

2008-12-16 Thread wendy
Gloria,

I'm sorry to hear about B.B.'s passing.  Thank you for loving him.

Wendy
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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 2:16:05 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we 
still have one?)

One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2,  
2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list.  He was a  
double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the  
Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue.  I've fostered him  
since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat.  But he  
developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with  
that ever since.  He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of  
days.

He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had  
other things going on, I'm not sure.

B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge  
early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lyphoma treatment options

2008-11-27 Thread wendy
Amanda,

I don't have any experience with Lymphoma, but there are members here who 
have.  It's Thanksgiving in the U.S. today, so you may not get many replies 
today.  In the meantime, you might search the archives on the website because 
there is a lot of information there.  Good luck with Silver Chan.  I hope 
you're able to help him.  Keep us posted.

:)
Wendy
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From: amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:34:57 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Lyphoma treatment options

My 6 year old FeLV cat ( Silver chan) has just been diagnosed with lyphoma in 
the chest, , he has fliud arround his lungs and is breathing faster, but that 
was the only symptom I saw, so I am quite shocked!  I would like to know what 
treatments have helped you kitty`s live longer, they gave me two options; 
Chlorambucil and prednisone, or L- Asparaginase/vincristine/prednisone. I had a 
lyphoma kitty before, I think I saw her condition much later, she had lost alot 
of weight and had the chemo with vincristine , but she didn`t do well on it and 
got amenia and the lymphoma came back and she died within two months! So I am 
very scared, especially as my cat now seems well , but I know he needs help 
with the fluid in his chest, the vet drained one side today, but couldn`t get 
any from the other side out. your advice would be greatly appreciated!  Amanda 
in Japan.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone

2008-11-27 Thread wendy
Sue,

I am so sorry to hear about sweet Buzz...my heart goes out to you.  Have a 
blessed Thanksgiving, in spite of your heartache.  My prayer is for peace and 
comfort for you.

Wendy
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From: Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:20:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone

Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS.  I feel like a very large 
piece of me is missing.

The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him.  He was terrified, cowering 
between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my brothers' house.  He 
had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban area where my brother used to 
live.  When my sister in law, Lee, rescued him he was very sick, full of 
parasites, starving and near death.  She and my brother nursed him back to 
physical health but he was still terrified of people. They named him Buzz Saw 
because of the way his claws flew whenever anyone got near him.  That day Lee 
caught him in a blanket and handed him to me.  I sat with him and gently pet 
him and talked to him.  Within about 20 minutes he was purring. Before we left 
that day he reached up to me and touched noses.

After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him.  When I brought him 
home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used to, and to 
keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the vet a few days 
later his feline leukemia test came back positive.  Buzz was going to live in 
the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat toys and a cat tree and 
pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I could. Every evening I would spend 
hours with him.  I was working on a computer project and he kept me company 
with that. That is how it was from January of '07 to April.  At that point it 
was clear that keeping him separate was not working.  We vaccinated the other 
cats for feline leukemia and released Buzzy into the rest of the house.  He 
loved his new freedom and became every ones quiet little shadow. He loved to 
watch what was going on.  His favorite place was a window bench that looks out 
on the bird feeder.  At night
 he either slept on a ledge right behind my head or cuddled up next to me, 
purring.  When July came I noticed that he seemed to have no energy and was not 
eating.  When we took him to the vet the diagnosis was anemia.  With heavy 
doses of prednesolone his health and red blood count began to come back.  I was 
so happy watching my sweet boy gaining back his energy and appetite.  While he 
was recuperating I would take him out to sit on the deck on my lap.  He loved 
sniffing the outdoor smells and feeling the warm sunshine on his fur.  He would 
sit and purr out there for as long as I could sit and hold him.  In the 
evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird and the laser pointer.  His blood was 
being tested every couple of weeks and soon it was in the normal range.  We 
began to back off on the prednesolone.  For several weeks everything was going 
well until the week that his blood count started going the wrong direction.  I 
prayed that it was just the
 one time but unfortunately not.  That horrible disease was in his bone marrow 
and the medication was no longer helping.  For the last several weeks I watched 
as he became more and more lethargic.  We offered him every special treat we 
could think of to keep him eating and he would nibble on those tidbits almost 
to the end.  He would sit all day on his window seat and for the last week we 
carried him to the litter box.  He always watched every move I made as I moved 
around the kitchen. Today when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead 
of watching, I knew it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took 
him to the vet I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at 
the bridge.  Then he went to sleep in my arms.  I will miss him so very much, 
but now he is in a place where there is no feline leukemia.

Sue


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Re: [Felvtalk] High Fever

2008-11-27 Thread wendy
I have read that rubbing alcohol on the pads of the feet can bring down fevers, 
but I do not know if this is legitimate, but may be worth looking into to help 
with the fever.  Good luck with your furbaby.

Wendy
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:52:47 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] High Fever


My cat Gray Kitty, was diagnosed with FeLV on his first birthday, 9/6/08.  He 
and his two brothers were born in our home to a stray we took into our home.  
She had tested negative for the virus.  His two brothers have also continue to  
test negative for the virus.  His two brothers are also type A blood and he is 
the only one that is type B.  He has had 1 transfusion, due to his anemic 
condition.  Since then, the virus has gone to his bone marrow.  He receives 
weekly injections of the Imulan LTCI and is on holistic medication as well.  
Since diagnosed, he continues to run a fever between 103 and 105.  Antibiotics 
do not seem to relieve this either.  We know each day is precious that we have 
with him.  Does anyone else battle with the high fevers too?
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[Felvtalk] Happy Thanksgiving to All

2008-11-27 Thread wendy
I hope all of you and your furbabies have a blessed Thanksgiving!

:)
Wendy


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee

2008-11-15 Thread wendy
Hey Sherry,

Just wanted to say that I am thinking about you and your Maizee...

:)
Wendy
 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:21:45 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee

Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes it seems 
like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here with me.
She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I have had 
the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 years.Each and every one 
of them have a special place in my heart.
Thank you Maizee
 
Sherry


 
We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?

2008-11-15 Thread wendy
Lisa,

I'm sorry about the positive test.  Thank you for trying to help out this 
little guy, and more so, for loving him.  The chances your other (adult?) cats 
will contract the virus, especially with FeLV vaccinations, is very low.  I 
believe the number on the effectiveness of the vaccine is 70%, and probably 
much higher with adult cats.  In addition, many of us here have mixed 
cats successfully, including me.  I had 4 adult cats, one of which who was 
FeLV+, and the other 3 never contracted the virus, even though their FeLV 
vaccines had all run out long before I knew that the one was positive.  Many of 
us here believe that it's very rare for a healthy adult cat to contract FeLV in 
any other way than blood exchange.  Mine all shared food, water, and litter 
boxes for 4 years before Cricket died.  One of mine was even elderly, about 16 
years old, and hyperthyroid/kidney failure, so she wasn't exactly the picture 
of health.

You CAN do this, and even though it may be tough, you won't regret loving and 
caring for this little guy, nor choosing NOT to euthanize him solely based on a 
positive test.

I hope you are able to get his diarrhea under control soon.

God bless~
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~ 





From: Lisa Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:47:49 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what?



    My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should
keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and
isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out
even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of
the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my
other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have
been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy
is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned
about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of
health, and I intend to keep it that way. 

    Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right
thing. 

    Lisa
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Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....

2008-11-15 Thread wendy
Christine,

Your story is so inspiring!  And heartbreaking too... :(  It brought back that 
old familiar lump in my throat I get when I think about my own losses.  Thank 
you for being the loving person you are.  Little Romeo was so lucky to have you!

:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:37:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone

It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to
lymphoma.  I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who
wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know
enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc.  And the
resounding answer is YES YES YES.  My Romeo was a throw away stray that I
first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony
near me.  He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running
across the field when I’d whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn’t miss
him.  He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury
everybody’s food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving.  I knew
someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he’d scamper away,
just out of reach, cowering.  



Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we’ve had in
a long time.  One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major
snowstorm.  Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him
in.  I even had an adoptive home ready—but he turned out to be positive and
they couldn’t handle it.  Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks,
watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren’t
that bad.  Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he
thought I was asleep.  Little baby steps—first the food dish got moved next
to his crate.  Then the litter box in the bathroom.  And slowly, he’d come
out during the day.  I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my
monitor to spot him on my bed.  You could see it in his face—this is
niiice and from that point on, he was totally
comfortable being in and around we humans.  Funny thing is that he never
really wanted to get out—he rarely sat at the window—the couch and the bed
were always much more comfortable for him!



Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you’d ever
want to meet.  Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him
in any way---he was just too scared.  But he’d jump up on me, lie on my
chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and
otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm
and loved.  My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take
much of a liking to him—all jealousy, I’m sure.  But Romeo persevered and
the two of them had come to terms with each other...



His final illness took him quickly.  He’d never been real sick before—had
some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it.  Going to
the vet was a major trauma for him so I’d always worked with my wonderful
vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum.  But today was one of those days
that I knew he had to get to the vet asap.  He’d been feeling poorly during
the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard—like he
couldn’t catch his breath.  He’d been on antibiotics for what I thought was
another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot
more.  My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they
confirmed the lymphoma.  He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had
filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could
never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood
would only give him a short extension of his life.  So, I made that decision
we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was
time.  I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him.



And do I regret taking him in—ABSOLUTELY NOT.  He gave me so many wonderful
memories and he will always be in my heart.  And did he regret coming
inside—ABSOLUTELY NOT—he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know
that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold
and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone.  We can’t save them
forever—but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so
very much about life from these little guys.  



Christiane Biagi

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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-29 Thread wendy
Hi Sue,

I am sorry to hear that Buzz has to go back on the Prednisolone.  I wish I 
could help you out with the new drug, but this is the first time I've ever 
heard about it.  Please keep us posted on his progress.  I hope his rbc goes up 
soon!

:)
Wendy
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From: Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:22:43 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group and my 
vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly weaning him 
off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was down to 1/2 of a 
5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood cell count began to 
drop again.  He is back to his full dose of Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will 
wait until the red blood cell count stabilizes and then begin the weaning 
process again.  This time he will also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have 
any experience with this drug or have any other suggestions that may help 
Buzz?  I have an excellent vet who is very open to suggestions and will 
research any possibilities thoroughly.
Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night.  I 
know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what this is 
like.
Thank you,
Sue and Buzzy
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[Felvtalk] Lost my Jack-Jack today

2008-10-14 Thread Wendy Griebel
My little furbaby Jack-Jack crossed the bridge today. He had cancer and 
was not responding to treatment. We will miss him greatly.

Wendy

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi

2008-10-04 Thread wendy
Robin,
 
Prayers going out for your peace and comfort.  I'm sorry about little Kiwi.  
We're here for you if you need to vent/talk.
 
Wendy 

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Kiwi is with God now.  I'm to upset to say anything else right now.  Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

2008-09-29 Thread wendy
Robin,
 
My heart goes out to little Kiwi, and to your family as well.  It's never easy.
 
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - Sad

I have not posted for a while about kiwi.  I think the last one I told you that 
my son was going to put him on a Bandfield Plan.  He never did.  Before that I 
tried to find a rescue who would take him, but there wasn't any openings.  I 
have no funds to get him to vet.  Sad to say, kiwi is really sick.  He is 
unable to keep food down.  He usually likes his dry food, but he won't eat.  I 
gave him just a little wet food, and he through it all up.  He does drink a 
little water.  I just gave him a teaspoon of tuna (not cat food), it will take 
5 to 10 minutes to see if he can keep it down.  He used his kitty litter in the 
last day or so.  Before all this, he ate a lot of his favorite cat food.  He 
didn't throw it up, but he had diarrhea and he was bony.  He was always full of 
energy.  I can't let him keep going on this way, so I plan to take him to a 
shelter and explain the situation to them and ask them humanly put him to 
sleep.  I don't want
 to do this, but I don't want him to suffer anymore.  To you who have not read 
my earlier postings,  I did not adopt kiwi, my son found him when he was about 
2 1/2 weeks old near his did sibling.  He bought him home and we did our usual 
thing and gave him kitten formula and kitten food.  He thrived.  My daughter 
who has another cat took her's to a regular vet visit, but de sided to take 
kiwi also.  (this one time)  Sadly, Kiwi came out positive for feline 
leukemia.  We checked him about when he was about 7 or 8 months old, and again 
he came back positive.  We new that we would not be able to afford to pay a vet 
so we tried to find a rescue.  None of them were able to take a Feline leukemia 
positive kitten/cat.  We live in Fairfax County Virginia, which is a large 
county, but no one could take him.  So we did the best we could for him, but it 
wasn't enough.  I don't blame anyone.  It's just how it is.  It's just so hard 
when your hands are
 tied.  Well, I better go for now.  I will let you know what happened.  Bye, 
Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad

2008-09-29 Thread wendy
Robin,
 
Sharyl gave you great info.  The babyfood worked wonders with one of my kitties 
who had issues with her stomach so bad she stopped eating.  I thought we were 
going to lose her, but more than twice she came through with the help of the 
baby food, pepcid ac, and chicken broth and boiled chicken.  Make sure she is 
getting fluids.  Dehydration makes kitties feel horrible.  Syringing several 
drops or more every hour or so may help.
 
Keep us posted, 
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Kiwi - sad

Tried to give Kiwi a little canned pumpkin.  He tried to ignore it, but I put a 
tiny bit in his mouth and he became a little interested.  He ate a tiny bit 
more on his own then he stopped.  I am going to wait 30 minutes to make sure he 
can keep it down.  I am not sure what to look for.  I guess maybe for his 
appetite to return eventually.  I just wish I could afford to take him to a vet 
to see exactly what is going on with him.  Anyway, I'll let you know how things 
are coming along soon.  Thanks!  Bye, Robin

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Re: [Felvtalk] worried Mom seeking info

2008-09-27 Thread wendy
Hi Jackie,
 
My name is Wendy and I have been a member here for about 3 years.  I joined 
after my 4 year old cat was diagnosed with FeLV and got sick.  My other three 
(all 4 indoor) had already been exposed as they'd lived together since Cricket 
was a kitten.  All 3 had been previously vaccinated for FeLV, but the 
vaccinations were not current when Cricket came into the picture.  Cricket died 
from anemia shortly after I joined, which I think that we could have reversed 
had I known what I know now about the disease.  None of my others ever 
contracted FeLV.  I do believe that it's difficult for adult cats, even elderly 
cats (we lost our 18.5 year old in Dec. to kidney issues and she'd been around 
Cricket all that time), to contract it from general contact or sharing 
food/water/litter boxes.  I think kittens are much more susceptible.  I do 
believe in mixing pos with vaccinations/neg adults if needed, but that is only 
my opinion based on what I've learned
 here and personal experience, not based on scientific evidence.  The 
veterinary world is much more cautious because not enough is known about the 
virus.
 
:)
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] worried Mom seeking info

Hi, my name is Jackie and I am seeking advice. A year ago I started trapping 
and altering strays. The first male I caught settled down quite a bit. I 
started letting him in now and then and eventually I started keeping him in. I 
have 4 other cats (all strictly indoor). I felt for this guy, he was a rough 
and tumble wild guy, but he was so sweet after he was fixed. He recently tested 
positive for leukemia and I have never had to deal with this kind of disease 
before. I talked to the doctor some and she recommended we retest him in 6 
weeks, but I'm worried I'm endangering my other cats by having him inside. They 
are vaccinated, but he is so dominating. I used to let him out on occasion to 
let off a little steam. Now I can't do that and he got into a scuffle with one 
of my other cats this weekend. I don't want to euthanize him, but I don't know 
what else to do. I would appreciate your opinions on my situation. 
Thanks,
Jackie

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Re: [Felvtalk] To Joey re. Help with Anemia questions...

2008-09-27 Thread wendy
Hi Joey,
 
I know this is a late reply, but just reading your email.  I wanted to point 
out that even though you may not allow your cats outside, that does not 
preclude that a flea (or more) did not get tracked in on your shoes/pants or 
someone else's.  That can and does happen.  
 
How is Oscar doing?  What did the vet end up saying?
 
Thanks,
wendy

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- Original Message 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:13:14 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help with Anemia questions...

Hey, I appreciate all the answers I've gotten thus far--I'm Oscar's mommy--the 
cat who has feline leukemia and severe anemia.  Since I was still reacting to 
the news (i.e. crying) when the vet was explaining everything to me over the 
phone last week, I have decided to meet him for a consultation tomorrow to get 
some answers.  I want to be able to ask him everything, so I was wondering if 
you all could help me with some questions to ask him.  What I'm pretty much 
wondering is if there is anything to do to help him live longer (but I probably 
need specifics) and I need to ask him if there is a recommended food that Oscar 
should be eating due to his Anemia.  

Does anyone know of any supplements that I should ask the vet about?  Vitamins, 
etc.  

Does anyone know of some specific foods that I should ask about?

Has anyone tried anything before with an Anemic cat that helped them pull out 
of it?  

Oscar does not have fleas, and none of the other cats in our household do 
either.  They are all strictly indoor cats, so I appreciate the warning to stay 
aware of fleas, but that isn't the cause of his anemia.  I will certainly keep 
an eye out for them, and I will also be careful how I treat them if fleas do 
pop up.

I would really like to pick the vet's brain, but I would like to do it with a 
little more information in mine so I can ask him educated questions.  Thanks in 
advance for all of your help :)  

Joey and Oscar



      
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[Felvtalk] OT: Proper way to bleach drinking fountains?

2008-09-07 Thread wendy
Hey guys,

I know several of you volunteer in shelters or run rescues, and I wanted to ask 
your advice on the proper way to bleach the automatic drinking fountains for 
cats.  I am so afraid I'm going to leave bleach residue or damage the parts.  
Do you leave the motor running and let the bleach run through the fountain, and 
then rinse it out?  Or do you take it apart and bleach only the plastic parts?  
Do you rinse with hot water?  How do you make sure you get all the bleach out?

Thank you for any advice you may have!
:)
Wendy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight

2008-08-26 Thread wendy
Oh Kim,
My heart goes out to you...  You sound so sad.  I feel in my heart after 
reading your post that you did the right thing for Cole.  How blessed you were 
to have one another.  Prayers going out for your heart to heal and for peace 
and comfort for you in the meantime.  
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Cole's last fight


It is with great sadness that I have to say that my Cole has lost his fight. 
The last 2 weeks he has been recieving epogen shots two times a week and we 
found out today that the shots have not improved his anemia. He in fact got 
worse and his hemoglobin went down to 9% from 11% 2 weeks ago. He has also lost 
an addition 1lb in 3 days because he would not eat. It was the hardest thing 
ever to have to make the call in putting him to sleep or not, but he has been 
so lethargic and down the last couple days, I had no choice. He was not in good 
enough shape to even attempt any other treatment at this point. I wish I would 
have caught this earlier and maybe treatment would have been better. He had 
been living with Feline Leukemia since birth and he lived to be almost 7, so at 
least I was blessed with that time with him. Right now the hardest thing is to 
come home and not have him waiting at the door for me. I am praying that I made 
the right decision and didnt
 jump the gun on putting him to sleep, but I just could not take it if I knew 
that I was prolonging his suffering. I am having him cremated and we are having 
a special urn made for him with his picture. All I can say is that having Cole 
for a short 6 1/2 years was worth the heartache I have now, he was my rock and 
was there for me when I needed him and now it is my turn to be there for him. 
Thank you all for your support and words of advice, it helped me make it 
through the 2 toughest weeks of my life. I love you Cole.
Kim
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Re: [Felvtalk] 2008 WSAVA Congress Paper on Retroviral Diseases

2008-08-25 Thread wendy
Awesome!  Thanks Sharyl for sharing!
:)
Wendy

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- Original Message 
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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:37:55 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] 2008 WSAVA Congress Paper on Retroviral Diseases

The 2008 WSAVA has posted their papers on line.  Here is the link to the one on 
managing FIV/FeLV.  You will have to cut and paste the link
 
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2008PID=23983Category=3868O=Generic
 
Sharyl

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From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi ~ vet input re Revolution
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:47 PM

My primary concern is heartworms.  I use strongid or panacur (both otc)  for
regular worms, and tapeworm tablets (now otc as welL) for tapeworms.  I can
say that I have never had any earmites since starting to use Revolution,w
hich is at least 3 years ago. Since my cats don't go outside fleas are not
a
huge issue for me.  I do have capstar as well.

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Revolution also claims to kill fleas. It is not the best for ear mites
 since
 they have a 3 week cycle and if you do repeat the Revolution, it's
repeated
 at 4 weeks. Here is an exchange I had with a vet regarding Revolution:




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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine and immune system boosting: my view

2008-08-23 Thread wendy
Hi Gary and all,
I want to explain why I believe lysine to be an immune system booster so maybe 
we can stop going back and forth on the issue:
There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our 
bodies.  One of them is L-lysine.  All cells in every organism (plants, 
animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins.  A single antibody 
molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+.  If our 
bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but 
plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system 
because the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened.  
Here is an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies: 
http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm  This is why lysine is given to 
people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue 
repair and growth.  It's also necessary in the production of antibodies (used 
by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our 
bodies).  It's a building block of our very cells. 
 And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, immune 
system boosting if the immune system is weak.  Every health food company that 
sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino acid.  Lysine 
deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I think that it's 
possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, so maybe our furry 
friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because of the virus.  I 
don't think the studies have been done on this particular issue.  And if anyone 
knows of any, please post them.  As I said before, I'm not a doctor, vet, or 
scientist.  But I can research, read, and use my common sense to make logical 
inferences.  I don't believe there are any studies to show that link lysine to 
the immune system because, from what I understand, it's common knowledge in the 
science/medical world.  It would be like trying to find studies linking blood 
to the heart.
If someone here is a biomedical student, doctor, expert researcher, etc., and 
you do not agree with what I've written above, please explain to me why this is 
not true.  I absolutely welcome respectful discourse on this matter.
And I want to say that regardless of whether I am wrong on this, pure lysine 
cannot be overdosed (because like Vitamin C, it's water-soluble), and is all 
natural, so is not bad for cats.  All it can do is help.
Thanks!
:)
Wendy
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- Original Message 
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I have recently heard that l-lysine is only effective against the herpes 
virus because it reduces the amount of l-arginine that the herpes virus 
needs in order to replicate.

Supposedly, there is no evidence that l-lysine is a general immune booster. 
I know that many people give it as a supplement and it is well tolerated by 
cats so there is no harm in giving it.  If anyone knows of a study that 
shows l-lysine is a general immune booster, please give me the link, I would 
be very interested in reading about it.

Thanks,

Gary

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 Welcome to the group Jody! So glad you hear your kitties are healthy! I 
 feed mine Innova Evo. I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement. 
 It's an immune system booster, comes in a tasteless powder form, and is 
 easy to mix into wet food.
 :)
 Wendy


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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-23 Thread wendy
Laura,
I am so sorry to hear about your precious Duncan.  Prayers going out for your 
peace and comfort.
Wendy
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- Original Message 
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI 
and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. 
On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of 
pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday 
morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get 
Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test 
results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about 
possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to 
put him down. 
He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and 
walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the 
URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the 
year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, 
but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week.
I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past 
couple of weeks for me. 
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?

2008-08-23 Thread wendy
I think maintenance is 250 mg once or twice a day.  500 mg once or twice a day 
for symptomatic kitties.  I would double-check this though in the archives or 
elsewhere.
:)
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- Original Message 
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Lysine added to dry food?


My felv+ foster Manny is going to his new home tonight (with lots of 
instructions, favorite toys, and probably some lingering anxiety from me!).  
Manny has been a finnicky canned food eater ever since I've had him- which has 
sucked b/c that is how I like to get supplements in him like lysine and added 
water.  But he loves loves loves the Eagle Pack Holistic Dry (which I have all 
my fosters on)--  LOVES IT.  As much I would like to convert all my cats to all 
canned- they just love their Eagle Pack dry too much.  And they have the most 
awesome coats- I get compliments on my fosters all the time- how good they 
look, none are fat, no dander, shiny, soft coats-- thus, I am very happy with 
the Holistic.  But all my fosters also get Holistic canned everyday, with water 
and supplements added, so I am sure that helps keeping them look great too.  
Manny will occasionally eat the Holistic canned, but he won't eat it in back to 
back feedings or two days in a
 row (he's nutty).  I originally tried to feed him a diet of Wellness canned 
only and he just stopped eating it totally (waste of expensive food)!  That is 
when I switched him to Eagle Pack.  So as far as sending him to his new home 
with feeding and supplment instructions, his new mom says she doesn't want to 
change anything b/c he looks so gorgeous and his coat is so wonderful, so she 
will keep him on the Holistic Dry.  I've asked that she occassionally give him 
some canned Holistic, but warned that he won't eat it 2 days in a row.  

I'd like to send her with instructions to add powdered Lysine to his dry food 
and was wondering if people thought this will work?  I have done it a few times 
with him and he seemed to not notice/care, but it hasn't been my primary way of 
administering lysine b/c I did keep up with giving him canned food every few 
days.  I think it will work tho b/c he loves his Holistic so much, I seriously 
doubt he won't eat it due to the Lysine powder.  Also, what is a good 
maintenance dose?  He is as healthy as a horse, so I just want to provide it to 
them as a preventative measure.  
thanks
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Re: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy?

2008-08-23 Thread wendy
Wow...I am so touched by everyone's sensitivity and directness and willingness 
to share their personal experiences with heartbreak from cancer in their 
furbabies.  You guys are amazing, really...
Adrienne, I hope you are able to come to a decision you feel is right for 
Emma.  That seems to be the hardest part sometimes, like you said, knowing the 
best thing to do.  I did want to say that I keep hearing here and there over 
the past few years about treating cancer holistically with intraveneous Vitamin 
C in humans, and I know that a lot of people give Vitamin C to their FeLV+ cats 
for mainenance.  I don't know if you would even consider this as an option, but 
I do think it might be a good thing to check in to, if it's even offered for 
cats.  Does anyone know anything about this?  I don't have anything to offer 
regarding the chemo, having no experience.  What I know of is only what I've 
read here.
Please keep us posted on little Emma, and I'm sorry you guys are having to go 
through this.
Wendy

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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:39:44 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] chemotherapy?

Hello.  My beloved Emma is 5 ½ years old.  Two years ago she was diagnosed
as being FeLV+.

I don’t know how this happened.  I raised Emma and her sisters from the time
they were about two days old.

Her sisters are negative, as are my other cats, despite the fact that they
have all lived together as indoor only cats, and have groomed each other,
and shared bowls, litter boxes, and dishes.  Emma tested negative for FeLV
as a kitten.  She has never been outside except in a carrier. 

Yesterday, I got the news that Emma has Lymphoma.  I’ve started her on
Prednisone, and the doctor is recommending chemotherapy.  The doctor
estimated an 8 to 10 month survival rate for cats with Lymphoma who go
through chemotherapy, but couldn’t give me any idea of the prognosis for a
cat who has FeLV.



Any opinion about chemotherapy for an FeLV+ cat with Lymphoma?  I’m
heartbroken and I don’t want to do anything to prolong my beautiful girl’s
suffering.



Thank you.

Adrienne

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Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat

2008-08-23 Thread wendy
Welcome to the group.  Chicken breast, as well as chicken broth, worked great 
with my kitty Julie, who had some eating issues.  Didn't help with diarrhea 
though.  Canned pumpkin can be good for that (without spices).  I always 
promote pure L-lysine as a supplement; you can get it at a health food store.  
You might have to mix it in his water if he won't eat wet food.  Or in chicken 
broth.  It's tasteless.  It's good for boosting the immune system.  A stress 
free environment and good diet are the two most important things you can do for 
Kiwi.  The lysine may also help with the stuff in his eyes, because a lot of 
times that's associated with conjunctivitis/feline herpes (can't sure it but 
it's not anything serious; it's kind of like cold sores for humans).  Lysine is 
good for herpes because it acts as an anti-viral.  Not sure how I feel about 
regular blood testing for FeLV+ kitties.  I did have a kitty die from anemia, 
so it may surprise some
 that I have this view, but I think the stress of the vet visit, especially 
many vet visits, might off-set the benefit of having regular blood tests.  But 
that is just my opinion, and there are others here who may feel differently.  
Good luck with Kiwi and keep us posted!
:)
Wendy
(Texas)

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kiwi our felv one year old cat

My son found kiwi beside his dead sibling in the woods.  Kiwi was actually very 
healthy.  We cleaned him up and gave him kitten formula.  The next day we took 
him to our local vet who thought he was between 
2  1/2 to 3 weeks old.  He would not suck on the kitten nipple bottle so we 
feed him through a dropper.  He acted as though we could not feed him fast 
enough.  He loved his kitten formula.  We did everything for him a mom cat 
would do.  He thrived.  When he was about 3 months old one of my daughters took 
the kitten to the vet because she was also taking her cat.  Everything looked 
good until they did the fel Luk test.  It came take positive.  We were all 
shocked.  The vet asked us what we wanted to do.  Like do we want them to put 
him to sleep.  I couldn't believe it.  This active happy go lucky kitten.  I 
couldn't imagine doing something like that.  We were worried about the other 
cat, who had been immunized against it.  He came back negative.  Well, this was 
last summer.  Now he is a year old and has been fixed and tested positive 
again.  We think he might have gotten it from his farel mother's milk.  All 
this time we were trying
 to place him in a foster home, because we had two dogs and another cat.  There 
has not been any openings, I think possibly because he is felv positive.  Right 
now he has diarrhea and some guk in his eyes.  But he does act fine.  I do feed 
him dry food because he throws up wet food.  He needs to see a vet, but I don't 
have the money.  I know with dogs if they get an upset stomack and have 
diarrhea, chicken breast is good.  I am wondering if chicken breast might be 
helpful for cats also.  I am also exploring to see if I can sign him up with 
Bandfield at Petsmart.  I would get the top plan which is about $30.00.  I 
figure it's better then nothing.  I think most lab work is included.  And I 
also think they he will need plenty of blood test to check his blood count.  
Any advise is very welcomed.  Thanks!  P.S.  wish I could send pictures of him!

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[Felvtalk] To Kim and Cole/Anemia/Epogen

2008-08-16 Thread wendy
Hi Kim,
I just now read about Cole's situation and we had a similar situation here last 
month, except the kitty had hemobartanella (a blood parasite very common to 
FeLV+ kitties and causes anemia) in it's blood.  Hemobartanella is very 
difficult to diagnose because one minute it will show up on a slide under the 
microscope, the next it's gone.  So often positive kitties are diagnosed 
negative.  It is standard procedure to put kitties with anemia on a 3 week 
round of doxycycline, even without a positive test for hemobart.  This is what 
turned this other kitty around last month.  
I would caution you about starting with Epogen right away, only because 
sometimes cats' immune system begins to resist it and it can worsen the anemia 
in this case.  Epogen also takes 2-3 weeks to kick in, so if you do use it, 
your kitty may need a blood transfusion in the meantime to give the Epogen time 
to work.
Did the vet say what time of anemia it is?  That's very important.  Usualy 
regenerative anemia is associated with hemobartanella.  Non-regenerative is 
more associated with bone marrow issues.  But neither one of those is set in 
stone because I think we've seen a few cases that were the opposite here.  Call 
you vet and find out and let us know.  And you might repost with a subject line 
of 'Epogen?' or something similar so that those who have used it can chime in 
with their expertise.  I've never had to use it.  I did lose a kitty to anemia 
though before I knew all of these things.  It was hard and anemia is very 
serious.  11% is low, and you were right to take Cole in to the vet.  Good for 
you.  
I also agree that Cole should be assist-fed if he is not eating.  That is very 
important because cats can quickly develop feline hepatic lipidosis (fatty 
liver disease) and it makes them very sick.  So eating is essential!  B12 shots 
can help stimulate appetite, and steroids shots can too, as well as make kitty 
feel better.  Prednisolone is one of them.  Winstrol is another steroid that is 
supposed to help stimulate red blood cell production.
Please keep us posted and if you have any other questions, please ask.  We're 
here to help!
:)
Wendy

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I took Cole to the vet this afternoon and I think it confirmed my worries. He 
has lost almost 2 lbs since June 24th. The vet did a complete blood count to 
see what his status is and his anemia is worsening at a very fast rate and if 
it does not increase his body will give out soon. His hemoglobin level was at a 
critical level of 11% this afternoon, where as a month and a half ago it was 
20% and in May it was 31%. She said by the look of his blood work, his bone 
marrow has been greatly affected by the leukemia and his body is not making 
very many red blood cells anymore, if any. There was some concern that he might 
be developing a mass of some kind in his abdomen, but thankfully at this time 
nothing showed up on the xray. We are going to try to give him a little longer 
to get better by giving him Epogen shots which should increase his red blood 
cell production. At this time though it is unclear if his bonemarrow is to 
damaged to even make more red blood
 cells, but we will see. At this time he is still very weak and does not move 
around much, but he still purrs non stop and its as lovable as ever...which 
makes it that much harder to think of the end. I know that the shots will only 
improve the length of time he lives and will never cure him, but I am hoping it 
at least gives him enough energy to have a happy life. The vet said that if he 
lives through this week, then hopefully he can show a little bit of 
improvement. Thank you all for you support and words of advice. I am still 
terrified of knowing that I will lose my best friend sometime in the near 
future, but at least I get to spend time with him now. Here is a picture of my 
angel. Please pray for him. All of your kitties are in my thoughts and prayers 
and I am glad to know there are other people with hearts filled with enough 
love to take care of these wonderful kitties.  Kim 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update

2008-08-16 Thread wendy
Jennifer,
Congratulations on the negative FeLV test results!  The supplement your vet 
recommended is lysine.  You can find it fairly inexpensive at health food 
stores and online, if not elsewhere.  Sometimes lysine can have additives that 
can cause Heinz body anemia in cats, so make sure you buy it in pure form.  
Keep us posted on your pregnant kitty and I'm so glad for her and her kittens 
that she is negative!
:)
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Vet visit update

Morrison and Isobel are both FeLV NEGATIVE!  I was so happy when I found out!  
Those were the longest 10 minutes of my life (the time it takes for the test 
results).  They both got their FeLV vaccine.  At first they weren't going to 
give Isobel one because she's pregnant (the vet confirmed) but then they found 
their FeLV vaccine for pregnant kitties.  I spoke with my vet about a 
spay-abort and he said basically it was my choice, but that is something he 
does (for a much bigger price), but he said I should also consider no-kill 
shelters.  There's a shelter that brings cats who're up for adoption to my 
vet's office and they're on display in the lobby.  He told me to take the 
kittens there after they've been weened and seen by him and most likely they'd 
be adopted out sooner rather than later, and possibly even displayed in his 
office, and their kittens always go fast.  There's an adoption application and 
a donation fee, so as to make sure they're
being adopted into good homes who really want them.  I got the feeling from my 
vet that he's not too fond of doing spay-abortions.  He said if I do choose to 
do that, I need to do it within the next two weeks tops because he guesstimated 
that she's going to give birth within four weeks, give or take.  

As for Ash, he got his rabies vaccination and he's all set to get neutered on 
the 28th.  I discussed supplements for him and he recommended Lisine 
(spelling).  He said I can get it at most health food stores, or maybe even 
Walmart.  250 mgs a day.  I am going to look into other supplements as well.  I 
have names of some.  With the supplements and with periodic wellness visits, 
Ash should be fine for a while (I hope).

 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
        ~ loving mama to ~
            Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
            Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
            Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)




      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Healthy dry foods?

2008-08-16 Thread wendy
I use Innova Evo from Natura, out of California.  I order through 
Petfooddirect.com when they have their 22% off deal about once a month.  It's 
all protein.  My cats love it.
:)
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- Original Message 
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Healthy dry foods?

Hi everyone,

You haven't heard from me in a while because everything with Pixie, my
3 y/o positive, is going well at the moment. Except I'm running low on
dry food...

I'm at the bottom of my huge bag of Nutro Choice Complete Care Adult
Indoor dry food so I called my local pet store to order more and
learned it's very hard to get in Europe right now (I live in the
Netherlands, BTW). I got three different reasons for the shortage from
three different pet stores: 1. Dutch importers aren't bringing in
Nutro from California anymore, 2. A Nutro factory in Hungary burned
down, 3. EU competition laws have banned Nutro. The last vendor (an
online retailer in Austria) promised he could get me the Nutro Choice
if I'm willing to wait several weeks. So I'm wondering what to do.
Should I order more ASAP and wait for it to arrive? Or should I do
some research and find a better alternative?

I'm not very knowledgeable about cat nutrition, especially for
special-needs kitties. But Pixie likes the taste of this Nutro Choice
dry food and I like to imagine that the ingredients are above average.
But are these ingredients ACTUALLY good for her? (Please note the beet
pulp and vegetable fibers, etc.):

 Ingredients:
chicken meal, ground rice, corn gluten meal, rice flour, poultry fat
(preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E), sunflower
oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E),
flaxseed meal, tomato pomace, brewers dried yeast, natural flavors,
dried beet pulp, mixed vegetable fiber (carrots, celery, beets,
parsley, lettuce, watercress and spinach), potassium chloride,
menhaden fish oil, oat fiber, soy protein concentrate, cranberry
powder, choline chloride, taurine, dl-methionine, vitamin E
supplement, dried egg product, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulphate,
ascorbic acid (source of vitamin C), L-carnitine, inositol, dried
bacillus licheniformis fermentation extract, dried bacillus subtilis
fermentation extract, lutein, dried chicory root, yucca schidigera
extract, niacin, copper sulphate, manganous oxide, vitamin A
supplement, garlic flavor, biotin, riboflavin supplement (source of
vitamin B-2), beta-carotene, calcium iodate, calcium pantothenate,
pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B-6), vitamin B-12
supplement, thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B-1), lycopene,
vitamin D-3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of
vitamin K activity), folic acid, sodium selenite. 

The Nutro Choice packaging advertises the following benefits:

*  Reduces caloric intake, prevents weight gain
    * Well-balanced protein and fat help keep your cat fit
    * Linoleic Acid, zinc, and important vitamins improve skin and coat health
    * Less shedding, fewer hairballs
    * Natural ingredients with vitamins  minerals
    * Easy to digest for sensitive stomachs
    * Distinctly improves skin  coat
    * Reduces stool volume and odor
    * Less Magnesium

So I'm at this juncture -- should I make every effort to get more of
this Nutro Choice Complete Care dry food since Pixie likes it and
seems to do well on it (despite some belching)? Or should I try to
find something better and hopefully more easily available in Europe?
Your suggestions are most welcome! I'd be nervous, however, to start
Pixie on a raw food diet since I know nothing about this and I'd have
to prepare the food myself (time-consuming and gross for a
vegetarian?)

Many thanks in advance for your help :)

Giselle  Pixie

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Re: [Felvtalk] New Here

2008-08-16 Thread wendy
Welcome to the group Jody!  So glad you hear your kitties are healthy!  I feed 
mine Innova Evo.  I would also suggest pure L-Lysine as a supplement.  It's an 
immune system booster, comes in a tasteless powder form, and is easy to mix 
into wet food.
:)
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] New Here

Hello!  I'm new to this list.  My husband and I have two FeLV positive cats.  
Bo is four, and Seven was a year old in June.  We have them both on interferon 
and have regular well-cat visits with our vets.  So far, Bo and Seven are in 
good health.

I have read a lot recently about diets for cats with FeLV.  Any tips from the 
folks here on what to look for in designing a good-health diet for our beloved 
cats?

Glad to be a part of this list!

Jody (and Bo  Seven)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.

2008-08-04 Thread wendy
Sue,
I am SO happy to hear this!  That is absolutely wonderful!
:):):):)
Wendy

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Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 10:41:03 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank you to everyone on this list.

I just spoke with Dr. Tom about Buzzy's latest bloodwork.  He has gone from 8 
when he was first diagnosed to 11 last Tuesday and Saturday he was 18.  It is 
because of the advise of the people on this list that I demanded the 
Doxycycline from the vet. The Doxycycline in combination with the prednesone 
that Dr. Tom put him on has ment that Buzz still has his life.  He will be 
loved and spoiled for as much time as he has, and here's hoping it is years!  
Thank you everyone!

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Re: [Felvtalk] a decision

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
Hi Lynne,
I am so sorry that your kitty isn't doing well.  Do you think he's dehydrated 
at all?  Because if he is, subQ fluids will make him feel better until it is 
time to go.  I know how torturous it is to go through this waiting period, so 
please be very kind and gentle with yourself.  You can deal with this, and I 
know you want to for your kitty's sake.  Praying for strength for you.
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~




I'm faced with another horrible decision.  Our 19 year old should be leaving 
this world and I just can't deal with this.  He is pretty much deaf, weak, 
frail yet eats like a piggy.  But now he is not using his litter box all the 
time and is peeing just about everywhere.  We have put litter boxes in every 
room, not the nicest thing for people who come over to have to see but I don't 
care about that.  Last night he pooped in one and then pooped on the floor.  He 
won't sit on our laps anymore.  I've tried so hard to stimulate him by picking 
him up, grooming him, talking to him and there is just a blank stare like he 
isn't really in that body anymore.  I just can't tell if he enjoys living or 
wants it to end.  I wish they were allowed to talk just once in their lives so 
we could know for sure.
 
Lynne


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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
I believe that L-lysine (pure) is very important in boosting the immune 
system.  It's an anti-viral and a natural amino acid.  It cannot be overdosed 
as it's water soluble.  Some people love Vitamin C, but I don't have any 
personal experience using that with my cats.  Best Friends Animal Sanctuary 
gives intra-muscular shots (versus IV, as some people do) to their FeLV+'s of 
Immuno-Regulin once a week I believe (although it might just be monthly or 
bi-monthly).
:)
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Supplements


What supplements can be given to a FeLV+ cat to keep them healthy?

 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
        ~ loving mama to ~
          Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
And again, I defend my stance.  Lysine deficiencies can result in lowered 
immune function.  Period.  Even if it only helps combat the herpes virus (as 
opposed to FeLV), it is STILL AN IMMUNE SYSTEM BOOSTER!  And keeping the immune 
system boosted is of utmost importance in keeping the FeLV virus from kicking 
in.  That is why we say a great diet and a stress-free environment are the two 
most important things in keeping FeLV+ kitties healthy, because those things 
help the immune system stay strong.  The quote you sent says specificially that 
even though it helps control the herpes virus, they believe lysine has no 
effect on the immune system and no effect on other pathogens AS FAR AS THEY 
KNOW.  Which means they don't know for sure it does not.  
 
Lysine is an essential amino acid that the human body needs (not sure about the 
feline body, but I'm betting yes), yet cannot make it on it's own.  It must 
come from food/external sources.  Lysine helps to form and maintain muscle, 
bone, and other tissues.  Often, the FeLV virus manifests itself in the bone 
marrow, which we all know is when the disease causes fatal problems, such as 
lymphoma and anemia.  While I am no doctor or scientist, given this knowledge, 
it's still common sense to me that an amino acid that aids in maintaining bone 
and tissue would be beneficial to fighting FeLV when you consider the 
implications on the bone marrow.
 
I don't think there are enough/any studies done to say that lysine does not 
directly combat the FeLV virus/virus replication.  If there are, could you 
kindly post those studies MC?  And a moratorium on the sarcasm would also be 
appreciated by me especially.
 
Respectfully,
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 5:08:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements


here's the direct quote from susan little, dvm, head of the Winn Feline 
Foundation (www.winnfelinehealth.org), 

Lysine is only helpful for control of herpesvirus infections.
Otherwise, it has no effect on the immune system and no effect
against other pathogens as far as we know. It is herpesvirus-
specific. And if you give arginine at the same time, you cancel out
the effect of the lysine, so it would be totally pointless. ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED], message #92072, forgive me dr susan!)

this was one of the many times she has repeated this; i've got the same thing 
repeated by a major cat rescuer/transporter in another place in my files, and 
if you go back in the archives you'll see that i and other have repeated this 
over and over again: LYSINE ONLY AFFECTS THE HERPES VIRUS. it's a marvelous 
thing, it trick the virus into not replicating, it's probably the only thing 
that i know that MDs and DOs and DDS and DVMs and practitioners of every other 
purrsuasion and specialty agree upon. 

we do no one any good when we repeat information without questioning it and 
finding out the details and veracity.

please.

MC



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Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements/lysine

2008-08-02 Thread wendy
And again, I defend my stance.  Lysine deficiencies can result in lowered 
immune function.  Period.  Even if it only helps combat the herpes virus (as 
opposed to FeLV), it is STILL AN IMMUNE SYSTEM BOOSTER!  And keeping the immune 
system boosted is of utmost importance in keeping the FeLV virus from kicking 
in.  That is why we say a great diet and a stress-free environment are the two 
most important things in keeping FeLV+ kitties healthy, because those things 
help the immune system stay strong.  The quote you sent says specificially that 
even though it helps control the herpes virus, they believe lysine has no 
effect on the immune system and no effect on other pathogens AS FAR AS THEY 
KNOW.  Which means they don't know for sure it does not.  
Lysine is an essential amino acid that the human body needs (not sure about the 
feline body, but I'm betting yes), yet cannot make it on it's own.  It must 
come from food/external sources.  Lysine helps to form and maintain muscle, 
bone, and other tissues.  Often, the FeLV virus manifests itself in the bone 
marrow, which we all know is when the disease causes fatal problems, such as 
lymphoma and anemia.  While I am no doctor or scientist, given this knowledge, 
it's still common sense to me that an amino acid that aids in maintaining bone 
and tissue would be beneficial to fighting FeLV when you consider the 
implications on the bone marrow.
I don't think there are enough/any studies done to say that lysine does not 
directly combat the FeLV virus/virus replication.  If there are, could you 
kindly post those studies MC?  And a moratorium on the sarcasm would also be 
appreciated by me especially.
Respectfully,
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
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Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 5:08:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Supplements


here's the direct quote from susan little, dvm, head of the Winn Feline 
Foundation (www.winnfelinehealth.org), 

Lysine is only helpful for control of herpesvirus infections.
Otherwise, it has no effect on the immune system and no effect
against other pathogens as far as we know. It is herpesvirus-
specific. And if you give arginine at the same time, you cancel out
the effect of the lysine, so it would be totally pointless. ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED], message #92072, forgive me dr susan!)

this was one of the many times she has repeated this; i've got the same thing 
repeated by a major cat rescuer/transporter in another place in my files, and 
if you go back in the archives you'll see that i and other have repeated this 
over and over again: LYSINE ONLY AFFECTS THE HERPES VIRUS. it's a marvelous 
thing, it trick the virus into not replicating, it's probably the only thing 
that i know that MDs and DOs and DDS and DVMs and practitioners of every other 
purrsuasion and specialty agree upon. 

we do no one any good when we repeat information without questioning it and 
finding out the details and veracity.

please.

MC


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:33 PM, gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There are lots of things people use but Lysine is used by many people with FeLV 
and FIV cats as an immune support.  I use this on my cats.
 
Moducare, although, I haven't figured out how to give it to my cats yet.  Your 
supposed to give it on an empty stomach because it binds with cholesterol and I 
really don't want to put my FeLV+ through the stress of pilling them everyday.  
I suppose you could give it with food that didn't have cholesterol, but most of 
those foods are vegetables and my guys aren't interested.  I tried egg whites 
and they didn't go for that either.  If anyone knows how to get Moducare into 
the cats without pilling and without cholesterol, please let me know.
 
Transfer Factor.  I don't have any experience with this one so I won't comment 
on it.
 
Lactoferrin, I know people using this on their FIV+ cats.
 
And I am sure there are many others.
 
Gary
 
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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:07 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Supplements

What supplements can be given to a FeLV+ cat to keep them healthy?

 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN  LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
        ~ loving mama to ~
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Re: [Felvtalk] The difference in vets

2008-07-31 Thread wendy
Sue, I am so happy that this vet is much more open to helping Buzz and 
knowlegeable!  That is so, so valuable, not only to help Buzz, but to keep your 
hope alive as well.  You are so right about the difference in vets.  Hugs going 
out to little Buzz.  :) Wendy

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- Original Message 
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Subject: [Felvtalk] The difference in vets


Hello everyone - Last Friday when Buzz sick I had to settle for one of the vets 
who works in the practice to check him because the husband and wife team I 
normaly go to were on vacation.  She pretty much said Buzz was anemic and there 
was no hope for him.  She gave him a cortizone shot and sent him home saying to 
give a call when it was time to euthanize.  Thanks to the advise of some of the 
people on this list I called back and demanded Dolycycline.
Yesterday Dr. Tom was back.  I had Buzzy re-tested in the morning (his level 
had gone from 8 to 11) and had a conference with Dr. Tom at 5:00 yesterday.  He 
spent an hour talking with me about all the possible options and explaining how 
each one worked and what the benefits and drawbacks were of each plan.  He was 
very happy that Buzz was on Doxycycline.  When I left the office he had 
promised to look into some of the options and get back to me.  Two hours later 
I received a call from him.  He had spent all that time researching some of the 
options we had talked about, including prednisone, and Epogen, B vitamins and 
Niacinamide.  Now Buzz is still on the Doxycycline and has started with 
prednisone.  Dr. Tom is going to order the Epogen and find out about the 
availability of Niacinamide.
It is so great to have such a wonderful person and doctor available who cares 
so much and takes the time to explain things. The only thing I can't figure out 
is why he keeps that other vet in his practice.  
This morning Buzz was still pretty tired but he ate a lot of the tuna I mixed 
up for him with the multi-vitamin in it.  My mother-in-law lives with us and 
she will continue to offer him food every couple of hours until I get home from 
work to spoil him.  Every evening we have been going out on the deck where I 
cuddle him and give him Reiki treatments.  Even if things don't work out, now I 
know that at least he is getting a fighting chance.


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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)

2008-07-28 Thread wendy
Hey Tonya,
Glad you guys are getting some type of routine down.  It's funny how hard that 
can be sometimes, especially with all that you also have going on personally.  
Keep us posted on Shaft.  I hope when he goes for his testing his numbers are 
in the normal range, and not still hyperT or hypoT.
:)
Wendy

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Thanks Wendy,
 
I 'think' we are getting a medication routine going.  It's hard to tell if he's 
eating because he won't eat in front of me.  But he feels like he's gaining 
weight.  He's still interested in treats.  We're retesting in a couple of 
weeks, and unless things look good I'm going to go to the ear gel. Shaft is 18 
years old, so I don't think he's a good candidate for the surgery. :(
tonya

wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Tonya,
 
I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December.  Instead of 
trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal 
Tapazole/Methimazole.  I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; 
they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and 
have great service and customer service.  The transdermal can be rubbed into 
the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill!  You 
will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never 
completely cured.  The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, 
slowing it down.  I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a 
lot there.  One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds.  
Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 
2.5 mg 2x daily.  The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out 
of the system after about
 12 hours.  
 
The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment.  
It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. 
you have the treatment done in.  It's a cure, when it works, which is often.  
It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone.  Had I 
had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been 
younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment.  
 
Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with 
CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, 
you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat 
the hyperT, as the kidney's act up.  If Shaft does have CRF after you get him 
regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with 
Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after 
meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must.  
 
The hyperT Yahoo group is great.  Also, heart murmur is often caused by 
overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated 
with meds.
 
Hope this helps Shaft!
:)
Wendy
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My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update

2008-07-28 Thread wendy
Yes, non-regenerative is the bad kind of anemia.  Regenerative means that his 
red blood cells still have the capability to regenerate, which is what he needs 
to survive.  I would put my money on the doxy.  So happy to hear that he's got 
his meds and has the better of the two types of anemia.  Please keep us posted 
on sweet Buzz!
:)
Wendy

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz anemia update


    
 
    Hello everyone -
    Today I got doxycycline from the vet.  It came in 50mg capsules which I have
    to open up and divide in two.  I mix half with water and give it to Buzzy 
in a
    syringe.  Half a capsule every 12 hours.  Tomorrow he goes for some kind of
    protein test and possibly set him up with a specialist for a transfusion.
    When I questioned the vet she said his anemia is not the non-regenerative
    kind.  Doesn't that mean there is more hope?  He is still eating fairly
    well.  I have cooked him chicken, and I am mixing some vitamins in with
    tuna.  I feed him a little bit as often as I can; he seems to eat more that
    way.  In a little while I will take him out on the deck to sit in my lap for
    a while.  He loves smelling the fresh air.  
    I hope this message goes through to the list, this is my fourth try. 
    Thanks for all the help, more suggestions are still appreciated.
    Sue


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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
Sue,
I don't want to scare you, but 8 is dangerously low, and the member who stated 
if you don't do something very soon, Buzzy will die, is correct.  The labored 
breathing is due to the lack of oxygen in the the blood from the anemia, and 
could be causing the heart murmur as well.  My kitty died from anemia and it 
was a tough road.  Had I to do it differently, I would have had him put on 
doxycycline right away, because of the high rate of incorrect hemobart test 
results (hemobart is common in FeLV+ cats).  The steroid shot will help him 
feel better temporarily, but it's not because the anemia is reversing.  So the 
source of the anemia needs to be treated.  The transfusion will help also, but 
is only temporary, making kitty seem to come back to life for around 8-14 
days or so.  It might buy kitty time for other treatments to kick in, but the 
type of anemia is important in determining whether or not treatments will even 
work.  Epogen can be great
 in some cases, but sometimes with Epogen/Procrit, cats develop an allergy to 
it, and can reject it eventually, so Epogen is often a last resort.  It's a 
Catch-22 with Epogen, because often it takes a while to kick in, but sometimes 
it's not known whether to use it or not as opposed to other treatments, due to 
the rejection rates, until it's too late.  Even so, I would do the doxy and 
steriods for sure.  Make sure you take some pictures of Buzzy if you are able 
to, in case the anemia cannot be reversed, and spoil him rotten.  I hate to 
sound like a Debbie-downer, but anemia is serious, and over the 
last two+ years, I have seen several cats here claimed by it.  Never lose hope 
though.  It will help you and Buzzy through this, no matter what the outcome.  
Please keep us posted.  
Prayers going out for Buzzy and you and your husband,
Wendy
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:45:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy is Anemic

      Bailey was on the other name for the procrit, it is epogen.  
Bailey bacame anemic and we did a bone marrow aspirate and tested for 
hemobartonella.  I had him on doxy even though he tested negative.  He 
had precancerous cells in his marrow and the oncologist my vet consulted 
with, he was her mentor in vet school, said to put him on epogen and a 
fairly high dose of prednisolone, where I live it is a bit cheaper than 
procrit.  His HCT went down before it went up, we started the epogen 
when it was 18%, it went to 15%, then started going up.  When he passed 
from undiagnosed pancreatic cancer, his HCT was still normal at 32% or 33%.

It is normally dosed at 3 times a week to start, with the cat being 
carefully monitored to make sure it doesn't go up too quickly.  It took 
6 weeks for Bailey's HCT to go from 15% to 40%, once it got to 40% we 
spread the dose to once a week, that kept it at 32% to 34% which is 
normal.  It is fairly common for the HCT to go down and can take up to 3 
weeks, with some cats even longer, before it goes up.

We did every test we could think of to find the cancer we suspected, my 
vet didn't feel comfortable treating for cancer without knowing what 
kind or where.  We never found it, it was upon his death we found out 
what and where.

If you don't do something quickly Buzzy will die, if he is having 
breathing problems he is in extreme danger.  I lost my Frankie to this 
when he started breathing funny I took him to the vet, his HCT was 6%, 
my then vet didn't express to me how dangerous this or how close to 
death he was, so I took him home to decide whether or not to do the 
transfusion, he died that night.

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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem (Tonya)

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
Hey Tonya,
I lost my 18 yr. old Julie to hyperT/kidney failure in December.  Instead of 
trying to chase Shaft for oral meds, I would suggest trying the transdermal 
Tapazole/Methimazole.  I ordered Julie's through Pet Health Pharmacy online; 
they are very reasonable compared to my vet/other pharmacies price-wise and 
have great service and customer service.  The transdermal can be rubbed into 
the tip of Shaft's ear, which is SOO much easier than trying to pill!  You 
will probably have to adjust and readjust dosing, as the hyperT is never 
completely cured.  The meds just regulate the progression of the disease, 
slowing it down.  I belonged to the hyperT group for two+ years and learned a 
lot there.  One of the problems with the meds is often overdosing of meds.  
Many vets prescribe 5 mg 2x daily when starting doses should only be 1.25 to 
2.5 mg 2x daily.  The meds have to be given every 12 hours because they are out 
of the system after about
 12 hours.  
The other thing you can consider is the radioactive iodine (I-131) treatment.  
It's expensive; anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on what part of the U.S. 
you have the treatment done in.  It's a cure, when it works, which is often.  
It kills the bad cells in the thyroid and leaves the good cells alone.  Had I 
had the money and had Julie not had kidney issues as well and had she been 
younger, I would have most assuredly gone with this treatment.  
Hyper T often masks kidney disease, so often people find they are dealing with 
CRF as well as hyperT once the hyperT is regulated, and if this is the case, 
you often have to balance to two with the meds, meaning you can't fully treat 
the hyperT, as the kidney's act up.  If Shaft does have CRF after you get him 
regulated (you'll need to have his bloodwork done 4-6 hours after dosing with 
Tapazole/Methamizole to check both kidneys and T4 level, about 2 weeks after 
meds have been started), then subQ fluids are a must.  
The hyperT Yahoo group is great.  Also, heart murmur is often caused by 
overworking thyroid, so that can disappear/improve after hyperT is regulated 
with meds.
Hope this helps Shaft!
:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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- Original Message 
From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:26:08 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t


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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
Funny you say this about the gerber (or BeechNut) baby food.  Chicken and gravy 
was Julie's favorite, and when she would not eat anything else, she scarfed 
this stuff down!!!  It saved her life several times when she stopped eating and 
towards the end of her life, she lived on it, plus boiled chicken and chicken 
broth.  
Make sure whatever baby food you buy does not contain garlic or onions.  I 
think tomatoes are also linked to anemia in cats, but not sure on this.
Pepcid (original) was also a life-saver for her a few times when she stopped 
eating when her stomach acted up.  
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Tonya, I don't belong to this group.  It is listed in the Links on the Assist 
Feeding Group. 
Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome)
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
 
Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets Mart 
may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the plague.  
 
Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
 
Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill Pockets 
don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't 
have onions or garlic in it.    Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 
calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
Sharyl

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From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
P.S. Julie also loved deli meat!!!

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:49:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Funny you say this about the gerber (or BeechNut) baby food.  Chicken and gravy 
was Julie's favorite, and when she would not eat anything else, she scarfed 
this stuff down!!!  It saved her life several times when she stopped eating and 
towards the end of her life, she lived on it, plus boiled chicken and chicken 
broth.  
 
Make sure whatever baby food you buy does not contain garlic or onions.  I 
think tomatoes are also linked to anemia in cats, but not sure on this.
 
Pepcid (original) was also a life-saver for her a few times when she stopped 
eating when her stomach acted up.  
 
:)
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:54:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


Tonya, I don't belong to this group.  It is listed in the Links on the Assist 
Feeding Group. 
Feline Hyperthyroid (also Hypothyroid welcome)
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-hyperT/?yguid=167334211
 
Some folks have good luck with Pill Pockets.  Most vets carry them.  Pets Mart 
may as well.  Mine caught on the 2nd dose  and now avoid them like the plague.  
 
Pequita would get hysterical and foam at the mouth whenever I tried to pill 
her.  But she loves Gerber 2 Chicken and Gravy baby food.  I crush her meds, 
dissolve them in 1-2 cc of water and add them to a couple of tsp of Gerbers.  
She laps it right up.
 
Shaft really needs the Tapazole to get his thyroid regulated.  If Pill Pockets 
don't work try the baby food.  Any meat variety works just make sure it doesn't 
have onions or garlic in it.    Also the Gerber 2 Chicken and gravy has 100 
calories per jar so it would help with the wt issue.
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:26 AM


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t
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Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
I second that!!!
:)
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:49:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design


James and Belinda: you rock!
:)

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life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. 
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- Original Message 
From: James G Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:12:54 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Admin: New website design

Hey all,

I've finally gotten around to updating our FeLV website 
(with Belinda's help). You can check it out at: 
http://www.felineleukemia.org  
I hope that it is easier to read and loads a bit faster. If 
anyone wishes to help update the content of the site, 
please let me and/or Belinda know privately. Reluctantly, 
I've added a donations page to the site to help offset my 
out-of-pocket costs for maintaining the site. Best wishes.

James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: list to Helene

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
Hi Helene!  I am thinking you are the same Helene from the HyperT group?  If 
so, hello and welcome!  This is Wendy (Julie's mom)
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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- Original Message 
From: Helene R. Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:09:14 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] list


 I am making sure that I am on the list...although I don't correspond very 
much.  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Terrie Welcome to new members and saying Hello

2008-07-27 Thread wendy
Hey Terrie,
Hope this email finds you well and your mother doing well also.  I'm sorry to 
hear about her.  This has been a tough year for a lot of us.  I have done a 
horrible job of keeping up with the list due to all that's gone on in my life 
in the last year, and frankly, I'm just glad that I'm fixing to start a new one 
(years go August to July for us Edumacators...lol).  I have missed seeing you 
here, as well as some of the other long-time members.
Keep us posted on your mom, and prayers going out for her as well as you and 
your family.
:)
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:56:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Welcome to new members and saying Hello

Hi all,
Sorry I haven't posted much these days.
I've been busy as hell in rescue. 
Cats/kittens are coming out of the woodwork!
 
The fact my mother is dying as well. Doctors are only giving her 1-3 months to 
live.
She is still young (66 will be 67 on August 2nd) 
If she hangs on we will be throwing a B-B-Q Birthday for her.
She had us kids when she was young and still got her education as she promised 
my grandparents. My parents were in the military and retired Lab/Dog and 
Siamese Cat breeders. They were respected and recognized in WA. state. 
We traveled the world as youngsters as well.
I'm 50 years old.
 
I wanted to let those of you know I'm so sorry to hear of your precious kitties 
that have went to the bridge. The day will come when you will be together again.
 
For you new members this is the best group of people to get support and 
knowledge from.
They have helped me with my FELV kitties and Non-FELV kitties.
Thank you to those that have decided to let their kitties live regardless of 
what their Vets have said.
I have to tell you I have mix both Felv/Non-Felv kitties in my home. 
Nobody that was negative has died from FELV. 
They died of old age or other illnesses.
I do get their vaccinations when needed.
There are some that do separate the Felvs from the Non-Felvs on this group.
 
Anyway enjoy your kitties.
Many can live for years then others like my Taz didn't make it pass 2 years old.
Good food and love is the key factor here.
 
TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
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Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest

2008-07-24 Thread wendy
Hi Julie,
Good luck with the retest.  I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but 
the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can 
carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even 
though they may actually test negative at a later date.  I am thinking four 
months, but not sure on that.  Someone here will know that specifically.  
I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference?  lol); it's an 
anti-viral.  Make sure you buy pure lysine.  I have also heard great things 
about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats.  Let us know how it goes.
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest

Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested 
positive for FeLV.  While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that 
can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the 
virus?  I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and 
lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else 
we should be doing?



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Re: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost

2008-07-24 Thread wendy
Hi Lynne,
There is a reason you're seeing this little fellow, and I'm sure it's to help.  
But give yourself a little time to breath and make the decision on how to 
handle the situation, especially considering what you went through with 
BooBoo.  It doesn't sound like you need to make the decision right away.  Give 
it a little time and it will come to you.
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:20:32 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] like seeing a ghost


Most of you know about my experience with BooBoo, the Felv positive who died 
after owning him for only a month.  It was without a doubt the most tragic 
thing I have ever been through in my life..  Not long after that we got a 
rescued persian Snowball who was neglected and in foster care for 4 months 
because she was so ill.  She has feline herpes virus, not active and is 
absolutely thriving now.
 
Tonight my husband calls me out to the front yard, and who is sitting there?  
BooBoo's son.  I don't know if he is Felv positive or not.  Just as BooBoo was, 
he has sores on his head, matted fur, dirty ears and most likely fleas.  I feel 
like I'm experiencing our tragedy all over again.  If I knew he was not 
positive, I would take him inside right now and those despicable people would 
never see him again.  Odd how he has chosen our house to hang around.  The 
owners were warned about taking care of their cats and I know all I have to do 
is call this field worker at the humane society and he will come and pick him 
up.  I just don't know what to do.  I could never subject Snowball to any harm, 
not after what she went through prior to living with us but I don't want to see 
this little guy suffer either.  If this kitty is Felv positive, perhaps a 
rescue would take him.  I simply could not afford the emotional and financial 
devestation we
 experienced watching BooBoo die.  I'm totally confused right now.
 
Lynne


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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2008-07-24 Thread wendy
Hi Sharon,
When my grandmother was feeding a feral colony in NC (I live in TX), I called 
Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah, a group I donate to, and they called one 
of their sister groups in NC.  The rescue came out, trapped all of them, 
spayed/neutered, and then released them back to my grandmother.  It was 
wonderful to see.  That was about five years ago.  My grandma died a year ago 
in July '07, and I trapped the only remaining feral, named her Ensie (for NC), 
and brought her back to TX.  She let me pet her the night we arrived home 
(after 5 years of not letting me touch her) and she's been wonderful ever 
since.  I hope you are able to find a good rescue group that will help you 
out.  You might also consider seeing if you're local vet will help you out in 
case the rescues don't come through.
I'm sorry to hear about your sweet Trixster.  That must have been very hard.
:)
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:18:43 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject)


Hi All,
I am new to Felv and just lost my Trixter to this awful Disease. I want to 
thank all of you for the information I have been reading from you all.
I have many ferals around my house because of the 3 fields that surround me. I 
have talked to the farmer but he is not interested in trying to help me help 
his cats. I have had to close up my cat door to protect my other 3.
 
 
I dont know anything about rounding them up and would hate to catch them just 
to be put to death. Any suggestions.
 
Regards to all, Sharon 



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Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Gentle reminder about netiquette

2008-07-24 Thread wendy
Thank you James for moderating this list.  We appreciate all you do!
:)
Wendy

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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: James G Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:10:49 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: Gentle reminder about netiquette

Hello everyone,

I apologize in advance for making this message longer 
than I'd first thought...

Now that our list appears to be back up and running 
properly, I think it's time to send out a gentle reminder 
about netiquette and what this list's mission is. 

First, remember that this list is for discussions of feline 
leukemia, related treatments and support for those who 
are dealing with this dreaded disease. We do, however, 
allow a bit of off-topic discussion because of the close-knit 
nature of this group of wonderful people. If you do plan to 
post something that is off-topic (but, hopefully, somehow 
related to FeLV and/or list members), remember to put 'OT' 
(without the quotes) at the beginning of the subject line. 

Next, remember to properly edit your emails to this list. 
Lately, folks have been posting messages that contain the 
complete text of the entire thread to which they are 
responding. This is causing problems with both the digest 
mode and email size limits for this list. So, please edit your 
messages to contain only the relevant text of previous 
emails. If you need assistance with this, please contact 
me privately, and I'll try to explain it further. 

Also, attachments are NOT allowed. That means, do not 
attach pictures, pdf files, Word document files, Excel files, 
etc. I will not forward such messages to the list.

Lastly, due to the nature of this disease and its effects on 
our furry friends, there is a potential for passionate 
debates every now and then. While this may be healthy in 
a general sense, please try to observe the following rules: 

No flaming- ie; no personal attacks, hostile language, 
personal threats, etc.,

No posting messages that proclaim a, my way or the 
highway type of rhetoric. We are a diverse group of 
people with varying opinions on which treatment options 
work best for our loved ones. Some here believe that 
certain treatment options are not viable (or are simply 
hokum) while others swear by a particular treatment. Some 
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say that it shouldn't happen at all. Even if you adamantly 
disagree with another list member's point of view, please 
be respectful and sensitive to their right to their opinions. 
Members are free to share their opinions, but they are not 
permitted to badger others into submission. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest

2008-07-24 Thread wendy
Thank you Mary Christine for clearing that up with all of us.  I appreciate 
your expertise.
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:35:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest


no, wendy, they do NOT carry the mother's antibodies. that is FIV--and the FeLV 
test doesn't test for antibodies anyway, it tests for antigens. PLEASE check 
before you send things out to the list.

as for lysine, it is specific for the various forms of HERPES viruses, not all 
those that cause respiratory symptoms. it causes the herpes virus not to 
replicate, it does not boost the immune system per se, and it has no known 
effect to date on any other virii. this is not news. as an essential amino 
acid, it's not going to HURT anything, and some veterinary associations suggest 
that all cats, symptomatic or not, should be given daily doses of it. but there 
is no value in claiming that it, or any other treatment, does what it does 
not.  

MC


On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Julie,
 
Good luck with the retest.  I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but 
the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can 
carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even 
though they may actually test negative at a later date.  I am thinking four 
months, but not sure on that.  Someone here will know that specifically.  
 
I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference?  lol); it's an 
anti-viral.  Make sure you buy pure lysine.  I have also heard great things 
about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats.  Let us know how it goes.
 
:)
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~ 



- Original Message 
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest


Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested 
positive for FeLV.  While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that 
can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the 
virus?  I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and 
lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else 
we should be doing?



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Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest

2008-07-24 Thread wendy
I also want to point out, antibodies or not, that retesting should still be 
done after a certain age, when a positive result at an earlier age might revert 
to negative after a certain age.  That was my point.  13 weeks could be too 
early, however I'm not sure specifically.  If someone knows the earliest 
testing/retesting dates, could you post them?  We might be able to save Julie 
some money.
Thanks,
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:35:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest


no, wendy, they do NOT carry the mother's antibodies. that is FIV--and the FeLV 
test doesn't test for antibodies anyway, it tests for antigens. PLEASE check 
before you send things out to the list.

as for lysine, it is specific for the various forms of HERPES viruses, not all 
those that cause respiratory symptoms. it causes the herpes virus not to 
replicate, it does not boost the immune system per se, and it has no known 
effect to date on any other virii. this is not news. as an essential amino 
acid, it's not going to HURT anything, and some veterinary associations suggest 
that all cats, symptomatic or not, should be given daily doses of it. but there 
is no value in claiming that it, or any other treatment, does what it does 
not.  

MC


On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:17 PM, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Julie,
 
Good luck with the retest.  I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but 
the kittens should be retested I think after a certain age, because they can 
carry their mother's FeLV antibodies for a certain time and test positive even 
though they may actually test negative at a later date.  I am thinking four 
months, but not sure on that.  Someone here will know that specifically.  
 
I swear by lysine for humans and animals (is there a difference?  lol); it's an 
anti-viral.  Make sure you buy pure lysine.  I have also heard great things 
about Vitamin C, but have never used it with my cats.  Let us know how it goes.
 
:)
Wendy

 Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~ 



- Original Message 
From: Julie Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:31:23 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] while we await a retest


Hi, I posted the other day about my 4 13 week old foster kittens who tested 
positive for FeLV.  While we wait out re-testing them, is there anything that 
can be done in hopes of boosting their immune system and fighting off the 
virus?  I am using Pet Tinic liquid vitamins twice a day and 
lactoferrin/colostrum supplement in their wet food twice a day..anything else 
we should be doing?



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