Re: Common code in CVS branches

2002-11-03 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Re some recent questions on this topic. As I understand it, creating a branch in the tree off an existing file set simply involves tagging the set of files with the new branch tag. From that point on, as long as a particular file remains unchanged, a

Re: Common code in CVS branches

2002-11-03 Thread Peter B. West
sible. A lot is already there. We can build on that. I concur with Oleg here. (Yes, really.) However, there are people who, as Victor has said, who find the all-or-nothing approach extremely difficult. If they can come up with practical ways of easing such difficulties, their suggest

Re: Common code in CVS branches

2002-11-04 Thread Peter B. West
en we have a split in the project and that wouldn't be good. Between all committers. I meant that closer liaison between committers is a good thing. All committers then have a more lively appreciation of what the others are up to. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pow

Re: Line ending chaos in our codebase

2002-11-04 Thread Peter B. West
dea how to... 1. identify files not having correct linevindingstlithoutckaving de opendeach an>every file? 2. enforce correct line endings? -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" ---

Re: Line ending chaos in our codebase

2002-11-05 Thread Peter B. West
form, and is contra-indicated on binary files, while '-kb' is contra-indicated on text files, on which you definitely want expansion. These values, incidentally, come from RCS, and can be read about with 'man co'. Unless something has changed recently, CRLF will h

Re: Line ending chaos in our codebase

2002-11-05 Thread Peter B. West
've started a little check-program (in Java) that analyzes files on their line endings using regex-matching. I think, I'll expand that to a little project including command-line app, ant-task etc. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwe

Re: Line ending chaos in our codebase

2002-11-05 Thread Peter B. West
eeds a bit more investigation. As I have said, I have recently seen spurious CRLF endings in checked-out files. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" ---

Re: HashMaps (WAS:RE: interface instead of implementation)

2002-11-06 Thread Peter B. West
ts of using WeakHashMaps instead of HashMaps? -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: interface instead of implementation

2002-11-06 Thread Peter B. West
seen this habit in a number of places and not only by Keiron! I've made it a habit to follow this pattern ... -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" ---

Re: [VOTE] Oleg for committer

2002-11-07 Thread Peter B. West
+1 Keiron Liddle wrote: Hi Developers, I suggest we have a vote for Oleg to be a committer. If Oleg accepts then he can get on with making FOP great! -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall

Re: [VOTE] Oleg for committer

2002-11-07 Thread Peter B. West
Provided, of course, that he controls his CRCRs. Peter B. West wrote: +1 -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: HashMaps (WAS:RE: interface instead of implementation)

2002-11-07 Thread Peter B. West
ed subtree, and reestablish it as a "pending". These things just sound interesting - sexy, even, now that you mention it - though I doubt their sex appeal was a strong motive for creating them. The "raw" documentation doesn't really give much of a feel for their potentia

Re: HashMaps (WAS:RE: interface instead of implementation)

2002-11-07 Thread Peter B. West
f the mind - but I'll remember the offer. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: plan for 0.20.5 release

2002-11-08 Thread Peter B. West
Rhett Aultman wrote: ... as soon as I'm done taking the GRE tomorrow (wishes of luck appreciated)... Consider them wished. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom s

Re: plan for 0.20.5 release

2002-11-08 Thread Peter B. West
hmann wrote: I'm on vacancy from tomorrow on for a bit more than three weeks, so I can't do this myself. Who will take care of the unanswered questions while I'm offline? Oleg? -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "

Re: plan for 0.20.5 release

2002-11-09 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg, Thanks for that. I have noticed that there are quite a few people who do respond on dev-user, in addition to yourself and Keiron, which is why I wondered whether Joerg was making a specific request. I eventually concluded he was not. Peter Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote

Re: interface instead of implementation

2002-11-10 Thread Peter B. West
gave me much food for thought. So I'll rephrase the question: what, if anything, is the cost of using the interface instead of the implementation? Peter Peter B. West wrote: > Jeremias, > > I have no objection at all, as long as it costs nothing. It is free, > isn't i

Re: A performance patch for PDFInfo class

2002-11-11 Thread Peter B. West
ce may be driven by many things, but money is not one of them. Pleasure is, and is high on the list. In spite of that, OS generates vast amounts of high-quality software. Go figure. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we g

Re: A performance patch for PDFInfo class

2002-11-11 Thread Peter B. West
Kevin O'Neill wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 11:21, Peter B. West wrote: "I like it" is the acid test; for me, of all code, but in particular for open source. Open source may be driven by many things, but money is not one of them. Pleasure is, and is high on the list. In spi

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-15 Thread Peter B. West
e.g., why you don't know when the end of a page has been reached. A shortcut to an understanding of such things would be very useful. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" -

Re: [OT] Apache committers meeting in german-speaking area

2002-11-15 Thread Peter B. West
r in the german-speaking part of the world . . . I might be interested too, depending on where and when. I am subscribed to party@. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" ---

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-15 Thread Peter B. West
was getting ready to post some details about this, but I wanted to finish the creation of the FO objects first. I will now post them this weekend. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?"

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-15 Thread Peter B. West
a good job (or at least can't *know* that we did) until we get the entire page-sequence read anyway, which means that we might be better off reading it in before we start & then taking the second approach. FWIW. Actually, I hope to learn a lot from Keiron's repli

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-19 Thread Peter B. West
ties, I will design and implement the layout engine, and it *will* work. Before then, however, the whole exercise may have been rendered academic by Sun. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" --

Re: Sun xsl formatter being donated to open source

2002-11-19 Thread Peter B. West
ratulated. Are you there, Tony? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Xerces 2.2.1

2002-11-19 Thread Peter B. West
out what was going on. This may fix some problems that have been attributed to Xalan. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe,

Re: Xerces 2.2.1

2002-11-19 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Peter I should have done that earlier because about at the same time I updated to Xerces 2.2.0, Xerces 2.2.1 was published and I knew it was a bugfix release. On 19.11.2002 15:18:45 Peter B. West wrote: I'm glad to see that you have upgraded Xerces to 2.2.1. I

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-11-19 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:07, Peter B. West wrote: If possible I think we should try to avoid making multiple passes since it can lead to loops etc. The table layout auto will need at least two passes but this should be possible using the layout managers. Is that a

Re: Xerces 2.2.1

2002-11-19 Thread Peter B. West
ument is called two times. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Victor as committer

2002-11-20 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: Hi Developers, I propose we have a vote for Victor to become a committer. +1 Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To u

Re: Sample FO Documents

2002-11-20 Thread Peter B. West
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Re: fo validation issue

2002-11-20 Thread Peter B. West
= expectCharacters(); return ev; } Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-20 Thread Peter B. West
currently working through the fo examples. Once that is done, I will have to fill in any blanks. TODO: Corresponding properties. Complete PropertyValue validation. Comprehensive testing. Complete provision for markers in all FO classes. Other things I can't think of now. More later on the

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-21 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg, ... Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: taking a very isolated path. My motivation can be summed up in the slogan SAX SUX. I couldn't understand why anyone would persist with it for any complex tasks, e.g. FOP. Actually I cannot say I fully agree with this, because I

Re: fo validation issue

2002-11-21 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: I like pull parsing model in general, but how do you manage with not such strict content model as fo:root have, e.g. fo:block with (#PCDATA|%inline;|%block;)* ? How about: FoXMLEvent ev = expectStartElement

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-22 Thread Peter B. West
hen I talk about the layout engine, I have in mind the process that builds the layout tree, and moves chunks as they are completed into the area tree. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" --

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-23 Thread Peter B. West
od reasons why the layout is not susceptible to the same simple solution.. I do have a number of ideas to contribute, and when the web site is restored I will be referring to some of the notes I have made and posted there. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwe

Problems with examples

2002-11-23 Thread Peter B. West
ar as XSL-FO is concerned. It is a system-color(), however, as far as FOP is concerned. I assume that these errors are not deliberate, and that I should clean them up as I go. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord,

Re: Problems with examples

2002-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
W. Eliot Kimber wrote: Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: I have debugging my FO tree building be running it against various example fo files. Of the three I have used so far, I have found problems with two. ./docs/examples/pagination/allregions.fo has the problem that I

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Why is it easier for developers to use? Is it because the API is less complex or more easily understood? Not really. As you point out, the SAX API is not all that complex. The problem is that the processing model of SUX is completely inverted

Re: Forrest updates

2002-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
it is to answer the mailing lists, we might be able to eliminate some of the mailing list traffic. And if it is not automatic, an explanation of the easier than before manual process would be useful. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to wh

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: I don't believe is is only a matter of style. I think the detrimental effects of push for general programming are glaringly obvious. It's just event-driven processing, how it could be detrimental? I may have referred to Dijkstra (R.

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-25 Thread Peter B. West
xhausted." But, a pull model can be grafted onto a push model by implementing what amounts to a specialized buffer of the pushed data that accepts pull queries...no? Which is what I have done. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.c

Re: Still on for freeze deadline?

2002-11-27 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: BTW: Anybody around with experience in CVS surgery??? Not really, but what do you want to do? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall

Re: need help regarding properties implementions

2002-11-27 Thread Peter B. West
t the FOs, to apply those values. Alt-Design takes the second view. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: regarding properties

2002-11-27 Thread Peter B. West
ing on the redesign so that i will work on them first.how about keep properties? Sri, You have picked just about the toughest layout problem of them all. If you want to work on this one, you have to get involved in redesign, with either the HEAD line or alt.design. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL

Re: Still on for freeze deadline?

2002-11-27 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Moving around directories on the server so we don't lose history on files. See my proposal on directory structure reorganization, ex. moveing src/org to src/java/org. On 27.11.2002 16:19:26 Peter B. West wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: BTW: Anybody around with exper

Re: Still on for freeze deadline?

2002-11-28 Thread Peter B. West
to either 1) only want them moved in one branch (probably not desirable), or 2) move them twice, once for each branch. Especially on the maintenance branch, you will want to be careful to get the new files tagged with the maintenance branch tag. I don't think anyone here knows all of the implica

Re: docs for maintenance release

2002-11-28 Thread Peter B. West
branch. Another possibility. especially for directories are not going to be merged back into the HEAD and whose content is largely the same, is to merge them out from HEAD into maint. Not having followed the details of the proposed changes very closely, I would have to look at individual cases.

Re: Alt-Design status: XML handling

2002-11-29 Thread Peter B. West
rough the cracks. Some such approach may be a good idea, but I would be loathe to call it EventHandler. The whole point about pull parsing is to move away from event handling. I would think of these more as methods with parameters like "optional", "single" or "multi

Re: Still on for freeze deadline?

2002-12-01 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Arved Sandstrom wrote: Considering that our new chief executive is Greg Stein, I'd be surprised if this isn't on the horizon. :-) Gosh! Can we have it before Christmas? :-) 2003? Good to see you back, Joerg. Good holiday? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL

Re: cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/design/alt.designclasses-overview.xml

2002-12-02 Thread Peter B. West
days, and I will fix the encoding at the same time, unless there is a more urgent need. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe,

Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-03 Thread Peter B. West
fter GC: 7242184 Diff before/after free : 443344 Diff before/GC free : 5571488 Diff after/GC free : 5128144 cg() freed : 5128144 18.02s real11.71s user 0.24s system Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ &

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-03 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Herewith the preliminary results of running the alt.design FO tree build against the 51 page test document supplied by Bertrand. What is included in this measurement? I presume it's fo parsing, userconfig processing and fo tree buiding?

Re: alt.design info

2002-12-04 Thread Peter B. West
eedback. Befoer becoming committed to any particular line of development, however, read the discussion here about the design direction. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" -

Re: FOP schema

2002-12-04 Thread Peter B. West
03547432006815&w=4 Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Redesign issues

2002-12-04 Thread Peter B. West
ly very comfortable with SAX, but I recognise that most are not. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-05 Thread Peter B. West
not, how do we decide how to make a better FO processor. These are the questions we had better discuss, the sooner the better. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FOP schema

2002-12-05 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: If no one objects, I would like to move this information to fop.xsd & let CVS handle the revision issues. The viewcvs program allows us to append a revision number, so we could even branch & tag this to keep it tied to releases. Sounds OK. Peter -- Peter B. West

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-05 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:01, Peter B. West wrote: There is an implication in what you are saying that you do have the direction forward for the FO processor "internalised", so to speak, and that a complete FO processor is, as Christian says, just a matter of

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-05 Thread Peter B. West
se for the comparisons. Peter Rhett Aultman wrote: Hmmm...maybe we could use a JVM profiler like jProf (http://starship.python.net/crew/garyp/jProf.html) for this? -Original Message- From: Oleg Tkachenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Peter B. West wrote: Herewith the preliminary results of r

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-06 Thread Peter B. West
will be in the February issue of Java Developer's Journal, barring any catastrophes). I could run the tests over here, in theory. Maybe we should discuss the specifics of a test in private? Rhett, Please do. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-06 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 03:47, Peter B. West wrote: Rhett, Nerver having used it, I am not aware of its capabilities. As I don't develop in a Microsoft environment, and have no access to MS Visual C++, and I don't run in a Solaris environment, my options for t

fop.xsd

2002-12-08 Thread Peter B. West
Victor, I'm not sure what your intention is, but from the wording of the commit comment, I think I may have mislead you with a previous posting. 4f was the superseded version. (Yes, I know, I should have left 4g.) fop4.xsd contained the latest version (4g). Peter -- Peter B. West [

fop.xsd

2002-12-08 Thread Peter B. West
could find. Chuck, if you want me to post a copy of the file to you, let me know. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: fop.xsd

2002-12-08 Thread Peter B. West
Peter B. West wrote: Victor, I'm not sure what your intention is, but from the wording of the commit comment, I think I may have mislead you with a previous posting. 4f was the superseded version. (Yes, I know, I should have left 4g.) fop4.xsd contained the latest version (4g). V

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
amp;forum_id=450 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=1780417 Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
"thick" r-p-m-refs. This would work in the same way for the other case you mention - constrained height and keep-together table rows. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" --

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
the FO tree. I tend to view the FO tree as a read-only data source for the layout. manaaged by the Fo objects. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" ---

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
Peter B. West wrote: Keiron Liddle wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 03:47, Peter B. West wrote: If anyone else want to have a look I would be interested in the results. I am particularly interested in memory usage, which, prima facie, looks good. 9 megs total memory usage for 51 pages of FO

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-10 Thread Peter B. West
#x27;t do that if the conversation disappears. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changes in xdocs directories

2002-12-10 Thread Peter B. West
x the alt.design files. If you would rather get the basics sorted out yourself, let me know. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe,

Re: Changes in xdocs directories

2002-12-10 Thread Peter B. West
Peter B. West wrote: Keiron, Victor, I started to make some changes in the alt.design xdocs directory, and ran into problems immediately. Forrest didn't like something in one of the files, but when I went to have a look at the directory, I began to find CVS discrepancies. This morning

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
security risks - site contents can be reverted easily without an admin having to figure out how the doc generation tool works. - it's there and it works Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom s

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
ree, and maintaining the synchronization locally. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
Jeff Turner wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 11:24:34PM +1000, Peter B. West wrote: Forrestbot? Forrestbot is a glorified Ant script which automates the process of checking out a site's contents from CVS, building the docs and uploading the docs somewhere. It currently has no official

Re: src/documentation/README

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
Christian Geisert wrote: Peter B. West wrote: You need a local forrest installation, see http://xml.apache.org/forrest/your-project.html#N10036 Christian, Thanks. I have set one up, but I was confused about automated updates. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: dtd catalog (was: src/documentation/README)

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Peter B. West wrote: I'm still floundering around here, but when I found 'catalog' in .../documentation/resources/schema, and the dtd in .../schema/dtd, I began to see a ray of light. It seems to me that such a setup should be used for all of the DOCTYPE delc

Today's the day...

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
Fopsters, Today (it's Thursday, my time) we hear what Tony Graham has been up to. I don't suppose anyone is in Baltimore? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to w

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
the validation of foreign elements should be feasible. The semantics of such objects is always going to be more of a problem. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-12-11 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Peter B. West wrote: ...the intention of the spec would be realised by laying out 0 of the repeatable-p-m-refs "thin", out of the available range of 0-100, then laying out 1 of the "thick" r-p-m-refs. Interesting and useful interpretation. Th

Re: dtd catalog (was: src/documentation/README)

2002-12-12 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Peter B. West wrote: ... The way this works is that your validation software has to know how to find the catalog. If it does, then the catalog can contain mappings from the PUBLIC IDs in the DOCTYPE declaration to a local physical file. That setup is already in all of our

Re: orphan/window control, blind tables, keep-with-next etc

2002-12-12 Thread Peter B. West
n has come up with. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sun XSL Formatter

2002-12-13 Thread Peter B. West
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Sun XSL Formatter Peter did ask... Tony, Thanks for the response. I must say, though, that had the product been written in Java, I would have been asking the same question as Arved. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sun XSL Formatter

2002-12-14 Thread Peter B. West
little longer, and then perhaps take them up in a wider forum. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sorry about the commit

2002-12-18 Thread Peter B. West
Fop-cvsers, Sorry abou the huge single commit. Has the commit mail behaviour changed recently? I though that commits of new files did not list the contents. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall

Re: bidi in the branch

2002-12-19 Thread Peter B. West
on't like it much. My question is: should I commit it to the branch codebase? I'm inclining to implement it in a clean way in the trunk instead of extending/patching the branch. -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.co

Re: Happy Holidays

2002-12-20 Thread Peter B. West
. (We live in hope.) At least... This is a good crowd. +1 :-) +1 Regards, Arved Sandstrom Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsu

Re: bidi in the branch

2002-12-21 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi Peter On 20.12.2002 00:30:13 Peter B. West wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: :-) Ok, you're sentenced to implement the same functionality in the trunk. I'm -0 for the inclusion in the branch as it sends the wrong message IMO. But I'm looking forward

Re: bidi in the branch

2002-12-22 Thread Peter B. West
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Peter B. West wrote: I would encourage Oleg to bring this functionality into HEAD. If it already exists in Oleg's working copy of the maint branch (for reasons which have frequently been canvassed here), I think it would be churlish of us to deny access to our fai

Integrating Javascript with Forrest

2003-01-04 Thread Peter B. West
can frames and javascript be integrated into forrest? Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: Integrating Javascript with Forrest

2003-01-04 Thread Peter B. West
frames are, in principle, incompatible with the Forrest approach, and so incorporating them in subsets will always have to be done this way. I imagine, also, that the use of javascript URLs as hrefs presents great difficulties. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au

Re: Documentation woes

2003-01-05 Thread Peter B. West
mework for the alt.design documentation; 3) A historical artefact, which will soon go away. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: FOP Style Guide (update)

2003-01-07 Thread Peter B. West
to do if (isEnabled() && someOtherVerboseCondition()) return true; and also if (isEnabled) doOneLiner(); else return false; which is easier to read than if (isEnabled()) doOoneLiner(); else return false; Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbw

Re: FOP Style Guide (update)

2003-01-08 Thread Peter B. West
Christian Geisert wrote: Peter B. West wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: Since I've made the checkstyle.cfg file an integral part of our style guide I have to bring this up before changing: I'd like to add a line "checkstyle.ignore.braces = yes". This enables one line if

Re: FOP Style Guide (update)

2003-01-08 Thread Peter B. West
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Or if checkstyle could also check indentation... *That* would be extremely useful, and would solve the problem. Maybe a Python preprocessor Joke, folk. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall

Re: FOP Style Guide (update)

2003-01-08 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Peter B. West wrote: if (isEnabled()) { return true; } is absurd. Not necessarily. I it *much* easier to add a System.out.println() to this than to either if (isEnabled())return true; or if (isEnabled()) return true; Agreed. If you are debugging

Re: FOP Style Guide (update)

2003-01-08 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: On 08.01.2003 14:23:36 Peter B. West wrote: And it adds just a spice of danger. I can live well without this. Spoilsport. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall

Re: FOP Style Guide (update)

2003-01-08 Thread Peter B. West
st be one of them there anarchists. Just my 2 cents. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cleanups in enumerated-values.xml

2003-01-11 Thread Peter B. West
folding algorithm. Peter -- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/ "Lord, to whom shall we go?" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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