Re: You guys are so funny.

Jeff Schnitzer wrote: >>>Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) >>> >>> >>B... vi rules! >> >> > > >Ed is the standard text editor. > > When I went to Uni. vi was considered too resource intensive - you had to use ed. ed rocks (well not really) Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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> >Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) > > B... vi rules! Ed is the standard text editor. http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html :-) Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I was reading alt.slack in '91 :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-m

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> > >> >>Let it be. Use the software you like. Write the software you like. >>Berate people over the truly important things, like choice of text >>editor :-) >> > >Hear hear! (But go emacs! ;-) > B... vi rules! -Andy > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >For addi

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"Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that >> I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only be friendly >> to those that agree with him. > > For the record, I've even co

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Do you want a list of other funny "channels"? =;o) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:19 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: You guys are so funny. > > > S

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ge- > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:00 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: You guys are so funny. > > Hey Jeff, > > > I can agree with all you say but I don't understand why you throw > this on my d

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2002 11:59 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: You guys are so funny. > > > > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that > > I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only

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> From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that > I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only be friendly > to those that agree with him. For the record, I've even committed the cardinal sin of creating a MVC webapp fram

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; Intelligent discussion. Several did already bite during this thread. Did you notice them? Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: You guys ar

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> I got proven wrong from the > point of view > that enough people wanted T3 to survive. I got proven right that T3 > distracted a limited set of resources (ie: people) from T4. Uau! You already got HALF way. You just still don't understand that T4 probably has more resources thanks to T3 stayi

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> I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > the standards. Costin, Being you quite a brilliant guy, I don't understand two troubles you seem to hav

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ndly to those that agree with him. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:34 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: You guys are so funny. > > > Jon wrote: > > &g

Apple/Java (was RE: You guys are so funny.)

om: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:05 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > >> I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) > > &

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On 5/3/02 1:04 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) >>> >>> Same here... Everywhere... :) >>> >> >> Me too. I'm hooked. TiBook wherever I go, dualie 800 at home. Can't go >> back. > > > I

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On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/3/02 10:04 AM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care > > about Apple users and that Apple can't supply the time to support Java > > users. > > Well duh. Apple'

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on 5/3/02 10:04 AM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care > about Apple users and that Apple can't supply the time to support Java > users. Well duh. Apple's business model doesn't revolve around Java. > Apple are d

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on 5/3/02 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you point out where the jar name is in the scarab/build/default.properties > file? > > - Sam Ruby In Velocity/DVSL, it would be built something like this (assuming a java.util.Properties in the context as "props": $props.getString(

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On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) > > > > Same here... Everywhere... :) > > > > Me too. I'm hooked. TiBook wherever I go, dualie 800 at home. Can't go > back. The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care about Apple

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Jon Stevens wrote: > >> Simple example: given an Scarab's build.xml file, can you write a DVSL >> which extracts the name of the jar which can be produced? > > Yes, cause I can just put a simple object 'java.util.Properties' into the > context which gets it out of the default.properties file. Can

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On 5/3/02 12:38 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard >>> and friendly GUI. >> >> I am.

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on 5/3/02 4:08 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simple example: given an Scarab's build.xml file, can you write a DVSL > which extracts the name of the jar which can be produced? > > - Sam Ruby Yes, cause I can just put a simple object 'java.util.Properties' into the context which ge

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On Fri, 3 May 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard > >> and friendly GUI. > > > > I am. I use a mac w/ OS

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"Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Stevens wrote: >> >> Maven is more than just a build system. > > And Gump does at least one thing that Maven does not. And Centipede does > at least one thing that neither of then do. > > So what you end up with is a venn diagram of information that

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"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard >> and friendly GUI. > > I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) Same here... Everywhere... :) Pier -- To uns

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Jon Stevens wrote: > > Maven is more than just a build system. And Gump does at least one thing that Maven does not. And Centipede does at least one thing that neither of then do. So what you end up with is a venn diagram of information that each requires - however the "overlap" are is informat

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on 5/2/02 10:38 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's everything you need to know to build Ant: > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-ant/build.xml > > I guess there is no need to build a maven descriptor for Ant then? Sorry, > but it is not that simple. > > - Sam

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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > Isn't XSLT all about transformations from one DTD to another? > > What is the big deal about having different DTD's? Here's everything you need to know to build Ant: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-ant/build.xml I guess there is no need to build

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on 5/2/02 7:42 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but there must have been a reason why a different DTD was > chosen than Gump's. I made an effort to document the Gump data definitions > and there certainly is plenty of instance data to look at. Tell me what to > change, tell me what's

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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > As I tried to point out in my parenthetical remark -- it wasn't the Maven > committers who started this whole thing ... it was our favorite iconoclast > himself (Jon), who seems to believe that anything that makes him happy > should make everybody

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dIon Gillard wrote: > > I don't see how we can be more accomodating other than downloading, > installing and running our own Gump. From talking to Vincent on that, it's > not a simple process, hence we are relying on the Gump developers to tell > us where we're going wrong. Look at it from my per

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> Sam, I asked yesterday or the day before on this list what needs to be > done. I'm waiting on you for a reply. I'm an active developer on maven. > Yesterday we added the nag tags in that were requested. Actually (to keep everything honest) they didn't quite work out the way I expected and have

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Sam, > His experience suggests that the Krysalis, Centipede, and Forrest have been > very accommodating, so the ideal situation would be for an active developer > on Maven to step forward. Sam, I asked yesterday or the day before on this list what needs to be done. I'm waiting on you for a reply.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 03 May, 2002 10:00, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > explain exactly WHAT that has to do with this? Who gives a rats behind > about Microsoft. (warning: irony) Sorry my point was whomever makes the tool easier to use will be the one that is ado

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> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I really wonder why it is that all one has to do is say "Microsoft" on > any Apache thread and they get 100 responses. I wonder if it works that > way on whatever-microsoft-related-lists are out there. Someone needs to update Ellison's Law

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Jon Stevens wrote: > > I listen to the following: > >Code. >Patches. >Real suggestions for improvement. >Intelligent discussion. > > I don't listen to the following: > >Flame wars about technologies used. >Whiny people who can't learn a new technology. >Whiny people who

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So lets do it. I'm working on the documentation everyone keeps complaining aboutwatch the commits. Grab a hammer and lets start talking about how to create an XSL vs DVSL module. I suggest a cent. Move to krysalis discussion list for now. I'm done here. On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 21:10, [EMA

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So much so that there have been no replies to my post on krysalis-developers. If you guys are so serious, how about continuing the discussion where it's appropriate. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/devel

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on 5/2/02 5:49 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I listen to the following: >> >> Code. >> Patches. >> Real suggestions for improvement. > > MERGE It is your itch. Not mine. >> Whiny people who can't learn a new technology. > > I could... I just don't wa

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:51 PM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > > [part bazillion deleted] > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- http:/

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Dude, do you really need to respond to *every single* piece of mail? Jeff > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:51 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > [part bazi

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ant. > > Talk is cheap and almost useless, as we've all heard the last two days. > Code/Docs are far more valuable. I believe the usual way is to start with a > cohesive proposal. > agreed. Writing docs for centipede. > As for people shoving Maven down other people's throats, I'd like to know

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> I listen to the following: > > Code. > Patches. > Real suggestions for improvement. MERGE > Intelligent discussion. > duhhh > I don't listen to the following: > > Flame wars about technologies used. so why did you start one > Whiny people who can't learn a new t

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My understanding is that the Maven guys are totally against merging and collaborating. So it isn't just jon. -Andy On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 19:57, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > [snip] > > As for people shoving Maven down other people's throa

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Oddly the centipede side supports collaboration On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 19:53, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I think I've been saying this long enough. . MERGE MERGE MERGE! > > > I can't help sitting here thinking about how the com

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I really wonder why it is that all one has to do is say "Microsoft" on any Apache thread and they get 100 responses. I wonder if it works that way on whatever-microsoft-related-lists are out there. -Andy On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 18:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Michael McCall

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> For all the nasty things Microsoft has done over the years, they have also > been pretty good at one particular thing -- asking their customers (and > potential customers) what they want, and listening to the answer. > > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want > "ever

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"Craig R. McClanahan" To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: You g

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on 5/2/02 4:57 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I tried to point out in my parenthetical remark -- it wasn't the Maven > committers who started this whole thing ... it was our favorite iconoclast > himself (Jon), who seems to believe that anything that makes him happy > s

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On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > As for people shoving Maven down other people's throats, I'd like to know > where the Maven developers have been doing that. From what I can see the > Maven developers have been fairly balanced. > As I tried to point out in my parenthetica

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On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think I've been saying this long enough. . MERGE MERGE MERGE! I can't help sitting here thinking about how the committers on projects being told to "MERGE MERGE MERGE" must feel like two young adults whose parents want them to get married (an

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Berin Writes: | Craig R. McClanahan wrote: | > | > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want | > "everyone" to use would think about going and asking the potential users | > (i.e. committers on various other projects) what their requirements are, | > before any attempt

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> I think I've been saying this long enough. . MERGE MERGE MERGE! How about we all stop the windbagging and start the code. If you've got an itch scratch it - lets take this dicsussion to Krysalis-dev, as it's completely OT here. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multit

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > the standards. Standards are funny things. There's always so many to choose

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On Fri, 3 May 2002, Michael McCallum wrote: > > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > > the standards. > > > Microsoft did not get where it was

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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >On 5/2/02 5:45 PM, "Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Even the Velocity vs XSLT could be a case for Worse is better :-) >>(Seriously, I have been thinking along these lines for the last days) >> >> > >That's DVSL vs XSLT. > > I was slightly off-foc

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ssue on which general@ ? xml.apache or jakarta.apache :) ) -marc= > -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: donderdag 2 mei 2002 23:31 > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > > > On Thu, 2 Ma

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On 5/2/02 5:45 PM, "Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Even the Velocity vs XSLT could be a case for Worse is better :-) > (Seriously, I have been thinking along these lines for the last days) That's DVSL vs XSLT. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research & Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROT

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> > :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard > and friendly GUI. > I am running UNIX (well Linux but its close enough) on my desktop with a standard and friendly GUI Of course I'm running MS Office for testing Java generated XLS files on my UNIX desktop all ma

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You all seemed to miss my point. M$ does not support standards they make then. I dont like it but thats the way things work. I run pure gnu-linux. If you make something easy to use people use it. It becomes a standard. Simple. For complex things

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explain exactly WHAT that has to do with this? Who gives a rats behind about Microsoft. (warning: irony) -Andy On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 16:52, Michael McCallum wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > > 'simple

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Jon said: > On top of it, in *years*, no one has gone and replaced Jakarta-site2 with > anything better. Sure, Craig did a XSLT stylesheet, but no one changed the > main Jakarta site to use it and I still see new Anakia sites on > Sourceforget.net all the time. Which, I believe, highlights a ma

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On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Berin Loritsch says: >> >>> There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it >>> is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. >> >> >> >> Whenever someone tells me how

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Berin Loritsch wrote: > Michael McCallum wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >>> I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if >>> 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to >>> get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT

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Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want > "everyone" to use would think about going and asking the potential users > (i.e. committers on various other projects) what their requirements are, > before any attempt (by those authors, or by anyo

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On Thu, 2 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:24:58 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > Beri

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Berin Loritsch says: > >>There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it >>is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. > > > > Whenever someone tells me how much MSFT has done for technology, I > can't help but think of how far we mi

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Berin Loritsch says: > There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it > is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. Whenever someone tells me how much MSFT has done for technology, I can't help but think of how far we might have gotten if MSFT hadn't been so i

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tail is needless. >>> >>>- Morgan >>> >>>--- Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>>on 5/2/02 8:44 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>

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Michael McCallum wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if >>'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to >>get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are >>the standards. >> > > Micro

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> > > >Why am I so obnoxious about all this? My commercial alter-ego (I did >start up a company 6 months ago, hopefully I will now be respected as a >grown-up ;-) wants to provide such an infrastructure to my customers, >since they are going already through the pain of switching from Cobol to >Jav

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > the standards. > Microsoft did not get where it was by using

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- Original Message - From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > You're still missing the point ... The main deta

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Pedantic, I know, but here goes anyway: Leo wrote: > Avalon currently uses cocoon (sort of an eat-your-own-dogfood > case), and > other developers would like this to stay that way. There is a tool(4) > that does the same thing as the jakarta project, created by > people from > xml.apache. The to

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Steven Noels wrote: >Jon wrote: > >>on 5/2/02 11:52 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>1. I need something that supports XSL in my build framework >>> >>Somehow I doubt that. >> >>-jon >> > >I will submit this thread as background material for my JSR proposal >based upon the

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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > >Sure, the developers are working together on *some* stuff, but the core >products they are not and my original Tomcat arguments were that it was lame >to have two different containers. I got proven wrong from the point of view >that enough people wanted T3 to survi

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> Bike Sheds > -- > > At first, people -1'd the use of Anakia to generate the Jakarta website. But > then when I took the effort to make it simple and easy to use and took away > the bike shed argument, people adopted it and used it all over the world. I really _don't care_ whether it is

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Jon wrote: > on 5/2/02 11:52 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. I need something that supports XSL in my build framework > > Somehow I doubt that. > > -jon I will submit this thread as background material for my JSR proposal based upon the existing JSR-57: "Long-Term Pers

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Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >on 5/2/02 1:25 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>And because if we just use all jon's pet projects only jon would get >>anything done ;-) >> > >Maven isn't my pet project. > >I just like it cause it works for me. > >-jon > And if the two were to work

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have a vote on until they find a way to work >>> >>togheter. >> >>>DVSL may be a nice language, but XSLT is the >>> >>standard - regardless of how >> >>>you play with the word. I'm fine with a tool that >>> >>supports both

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on 5/2/02 1:25 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And because if we just use all jon's pet projects only jon would get > anything done ;-) Maven isn't my pet project. I just like it cause it works for me. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For addit

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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > And because if we just use all jon's pet projects only jon would get > anything done ;-) Jon is not developing Maven or DVSL. This line of argument has grown tired... -Kurt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional co

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If you hate ME to messages scroll to the end where there is one minor point or just register a "me too" and move on... ;-) > > > Finally. Jon, I knew you could do it. You wrote your first intelligent > post in this whole thread! :-D > > ;P > > There are things to like with both projects.

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> > >>The next thing to replace jakarta-site2 will be Maven. Just like with >>Anakia, I honestly don't care if you -1 it. You aren't doing the work and >>therefore your argument against it is simply a bike shed and is thus not >>valid in my opinion. >> > >I hope another jakarta commiter will join

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on 5/2/02 12:26 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never used ( and I don't plan to use ) Anakia How did you generate this diff? Come on Costin, you keep shooting yourself in you

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on 5/2/02 12:23 PM, "GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned >> that you can't >> force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our >> history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for >> something lik

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on 5/2/02 11:52 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. I need something that supports XSL in my build framework Somehow I doubt that. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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> > You guys are so funny. My name is Hammer. I like to rave! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Jon calling me 'hypocrite' That is a bit funny, at least after reading his arguments on this thread. ( and how this thread started, and all his actions on this subject ). Well, as I said I will vote -1 on any switch to Maven wherever I have a vote. I never used ( and I don't plan to use

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>> Jon, take a closer look into tomcat-dev and you'll see that >> projects could works together, using others ways in JTC, >> coyote, jk/jk2, are the proof that tomcat developpers from >> 4.x and 3.3.x could works together... > >Yeah right... And now where do _I_ stand? Hehehehehe :) > Near me my

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> > > >Cool. I like being funny :-) > >Hey, Paulo! Let's meet! We can become friends and switch xsl:templates! > > > Count me in! I was thinking we could rewrite Velocity using a self expressing XSL-based language, you know make it completely declarative and have the Java done on the back with

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: > WIth certain limitations. Where is the Nag entries, etc.? The nag entries are there now, after it was pointed out yesterday that they weren't being added. I'm not sure what "etc" needs to be added to the descriptor besides that, but I'm sure that we

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Jon wrote: > People > -- > > Needless to say, the attitudes here are becoming more and > more familiar. > Andrew reminds me of the early days of dealing with Peter > Donald (credit to > Peter for eventually coming to his senses...I think joining > the PMC helped). > Steven reminds me of P

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> > > >People >-- > >Needless to say, the attitudes here are becoming more and more familiar. >Andrew reminds me of the early days of dealing with Peter Donald (credit to >Peter for eventually coming to his senses...I think joining the PMC helped). > because I refuse to adopt things if they d

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"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned >> that you can't >> force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our >> history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for >> something like >> that. You hypoc

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Kurt Schrader wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: > > >>There are things to like with both projects. However you do ignore some >>things that are important. GUMP integration is important--I like the >>fact that Centipede works out of the box with it. > > > Just to clear this u

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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: > There are things to like with both projects. However you do ignore some > things that are important. GUMP integration is important--I like the > fact that Centipede works out of the box with it. Just to clear this up, "ant maven:gump-descriptor" wil

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>Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned >that you can't >force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our >history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for >something like >that. You hypocrite. Again and again, the same bullshits. Jon, ta

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;DVSL may be a nice language, but XSLT is the standard - regardless of how >>you play with the word. I'm fine with a tool that supports both. >> >>Costin > > > You guys are so funny. > > Bike Sheds > -- > > At first, people -1'd the use of A

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