Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-06-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
This is amazing. I agree with Craig on something almost completely. Craig McClanahan wrote: On 5/30/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/30/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/26/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ack in terms of driving a community away because

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-06-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
This is amazing. I agree with Craig on something almost completely. Craig McClanahan wrote: On 5/30/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/30/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/26/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ack in terms of driving a community away because

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
-1 to Commons being Jakarta. Commons should be commons, have its own PMC/domain. It already has its own brand recognition. I had an interesting conversation with a large financial customer about it just before I left JBoss. They weren't clearly even aware that commons was part of Jakarta.

Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
] * Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Sean Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Nick Burch be appointed to the office of Vice President, POI, to serve

Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
PROTECTED] * Amol S. Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jason Height [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Marc Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Rainer Klute [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Yegor Kozlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Danny Muid [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL

Linuxfest northwest

2007-04-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
anyone else coming? http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=viewid=141509 -- Catch us at Linuxfest Northwest (4/28-4/29) http://linuxfestnorthwest.org Buni Meldware Communication Suite Email, Calendaring, ease of configuration/administration http://buni.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yeah, well I consider voting on something that doesn't exist yet to be absurd. So there we are. This whole thread is absurd. There is no technical issue here. cvs tag FOOBAR_1_0_RC1 ant scp... ...crickets... cvs TAG FOOBAR_1_0 ssh... mv FOOBAR_1.0-RC1... FOOBAR_1.0-final... -andy --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist..

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I think it is a bad idea. Either a project is alive or it is dead and most of the dead are not coming back. The site, the project and everything else should reflect this. I suggest that: 1. ECS 2. ORO 3. Regexp 4. Alexandria (already does basically) all have a page that looks like this

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist..

2007-03-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Whoa...my uncle is back from the dead. -Andy Michael Oliver wrote: We aren't related, but I agree with Andy. Michael Oliver -Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 3:17 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL

Re: My svn account

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
no. don't see it in spam folder either... Martin van den Bemt wrote: You received Joes mail ? Mvgr, Martin Andrew C. Oliver wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :cat /usr/local/bin/svnpasswd #!/bin/sh echo Please visit https://svn.apache.org/change-password; robert burrell donkin wrote

Re: Nightly builds docu?

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ummwhy not out of Gump? Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On 1/16/07, Ortwin Glück [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone (Henry?) know what happened to http://www.apache.org/dev/nightly-builds.html ? It's referenced from http://www.apache.org/dev/ at the very bottom

Re: My svn account

2007-01-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] :cat /usr/local/bin/svnpasswd #!/bin/sh echo Please visit https://svn.apache.org/change-password; robert burrell donkin wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 16:44 -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: IIRC, this is my 4th attempt to resolve this (I try like every 3-4 months). I would

My svn account

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
IIRC, this is my 4th attempt to resolve this (I try like every 3-4 months). I would like to commit something. My SVN account is not working. per the instructions off the SVN page I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got no response. I am still able to log in to people.apache.org. Suggestions

POI TLP -- constructively

2006-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
, PLLEEAASS let's press the PAUSE button until January 3rd so that we can all get very drunk and open presents rather than jerk each other's chains in front of a computer on a mailing list. -Andy Andrew C. Oliver Buni Luni http://buni.org

Re: POI TLP -- constructively

2006-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Sleep Martinsleep. All will be answered, resolved...but not today. Right now I'm going to help my 2 year old draw dinosaurs with his Hanukkah present (he is obsessed with dinosaurs). -andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I feel a bit attacked for no reason really (regarding the barbs thrown in my direction). It has been some time since I have not been rather civil on this list and I would expect the return courtesy. I've always tried to make a good faith effort with regards to POI. I have never supported

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hey I have an idea! If it doesn't pass this time we can call another vote right before the next holiday and hope that none of the POI PMC members are around... Then 3 months later do it again. -1 (because my votes don't seem to be counted and Henri will make up backstory for me) Henri

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The alias is immaterial to me -Andy Roland Weber wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: [...] I would like to see a formats.apache.org project which was devoted to Java/Ruby/C# APIs for office software file formats and more. That's a very unspecific name. formats can mean anything, from

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. +1 I'd like to see a TLP. Or baring that an exit. WILL On 12/15/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey I have an idea! If it doesn't pass this time we can call another vote right before the next holiday and hope that none of the POI PMC members are around... Then 3 months later

Re: [site] proposed changes

2006-12-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Why not just move all of the content of all of these pages to the wiki and change the links. Or better still have a section of wiki links in the right hand nav for them. Linking to pages in the wiki is bad, I think. When a page in a wiki has reached a point of wanting to be individually

Re: [Notice of intent]: Make Jira auth like SVN

2006-05-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
-1 (just like I was -1 to the SVN one) -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: I've moved Jelly, Velocity, Velocity-Tools, Turbine and HTTPComponents to use the Jakarta permissions - which provides various permissions to the jakarta-developers group. Said group is formed from the members of the

Re: [Notice of intent]: Make Jira auth like SVN

2006-05-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Actually -0 for this. POI is on bugzilla. I still don't like commonsificaiton on Jakarta but won't be a prick about this one. Andrew C. Oliver wrote: -1 (just like I was -1 to the SVN one) -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: I've moved Jelly, Velocity, Velocity-Tools, Turbine and HTTPComponents

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
the reasons stated previously that I still feel are not addressed. -Andy Martin Cooper wrote: On 4/25/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be against another commons style sub-community. Unless you can show me a defined scope, web components means nothing, then expect my objection

Re: [RESULT] Move Jakarta Cactus/JMeter to new Testing TLP

2006-04-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
BTW, while I simply don't care on this particular issue. I object to the bizarre form of this vote by procedure as a matter of practice. On these issues: 1. If you don't get any response from the dev list of that project coming to the PMC with a vote seems to be call votes until I get the

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Why? Do you need something to do? I have many unworked open source tasks that I could pass on. I'm happy to help you along on them. Seriously. Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote: However Jakarta-sandbox is SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
So basically if I call my project a component I don't have to go through the incubator just YOUR incubator. Nope, poor explanation on my part. Code created within the Apache community does not have to go through the incubator at all. The only bit component refers to is related to Martin's

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Based on that what WOULD BE out of scope of today's commons or this MEGA-sandbox or this JCL or whatever? robert burrell donkin wrote: On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 10:20 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: snip Totally NOT how the incubator was described to me. As I understand it if Tomcat

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
on sourceforge IMO. If you want to start a whole NEW project then do that in the incubator IMO. Noel J. Bergman wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: projects coming into the ASF go through the Incubator. New things started entirely within the ASF do not, currently

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Henri Yandell wrote: On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: -1 on these points 1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All new projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons sandbox was created prior to the incubator. Nope, all new communities

Re: [RESULT] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-04-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
My mailserver kicked a disk so I missed the second vote (though as a point of procedure I didn't qualify my first vote ;-) ). I'd like to register my -0. (Its a -1 this sucks but I've decided not to be a butt about it) And -1 in advance to the lets all have one mega list because we don't

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
-1. I prefer the POI SVN to remain seperate. Henri Yandell wrote: Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all jakarta-* groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the exception of jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and jakarta-jmeter under the

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
were/are released publically w/o restriction, we've never used the word sign without sign or been bound by as employer/member agreements can be binding w/o you signing it) -andy Andrew C. Oliver wrote: -1. I prefer the POI SVN to remain seperate. Henri Yandell wrote: Vote to remove the SVN

Re: adding a link from commons.apache.org to Jakarta Commons?

2006-03-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
joke Hey then there could be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ALL commons projects across the ASF could be developed on it! I might even subscribe several times in order to load test my mail server ;-) /joke -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: Now Martin's answer becomes very apt - something to sell across

Re: Invitation

2006-03-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I get spam from myself all the time. Guess its karma for proposing this: (http://sourceforge.net/projects/superxmailer/) as an Apache project one April 1st. -Andy Karthik Kumar wrote: Hi... I'm extremely sorry for this... Someone was spamming :( Karthik On 3/19/06, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cleanup pmc members

2006-03-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ahh, you're American. You do realize Europeans take like 5 month vacations? I don't care a whole lot so long as I'm exempted because I commit in spurts like once every 2-3 years ;-) -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: Previously I'd suggested that we should be cleaning up inactive committers and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cleanup pmc members

2006-03-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Henri Gomez wrote: 2006/3/16, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ahh, you're American. You do realize Europeans take like 5 month vacations? Hum, 5 weeks in France - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Managing communities and emails (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components)

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hey... I know what this could be called... Alexandria Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: A joke turns into something serious ...but I am all with you guys. As I said: the more I think about it - the more I like the idea! You've

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of OneCommunityProposals by StephenColebourne

2006-03-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'd like to note my opposition. I don't have the same vision as you do and do not wish to be distracted by 100 irrelavant emails a day about Commons ABCD. I'm glad Henri posted that reorganization things were being discussed. I would have preferred that he posted a more detailed message as

Re: Jakarta Sandbox?

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: Jakarta Sandbox?

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
them live together and die together. -Andy Hen On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Personally I think that commons is a bit TOO open. I'm not sure the Java world can suffer another project designed to throw us into circular dependency hell. These little mini-component projects

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Stephen Colebourne wrote: Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal. Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous, support. A vote thread may follow this thread if the mood remains positive. ... Jakarta Language Components will: - develop multiple independent components

Re: Differences

2004-01-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
devolve into flamebait because each project feels very passionate about their approach (enough to devote real time to developing it in fact) so asking them all in a room together what's the difference is well...often not pretty. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom

Just in case you're curious

2004-01-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Everything is back on the private list again. Odd to discuss including more people in the PMC while excluding them from the discussion. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2004-01-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Dude...three words: switch to decaf ;-) -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
of saying I told you so later. ;-) Have fun. I'm mostly skimming now. Someone let me know if I miss anything that actually requires my attention. -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:04:26 -0500 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just in case you're curious On Dec 21, 2003, at 5:03 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: You go discus

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
YES! -- And members, and board, and incubator, and Move it into the open. -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Well, saying please and asking nicely had no effect. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
it here. This is my personal choice. I choose to work in the open. I choose to be googled. I volunteered for it in fact. -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Vic, if you've been paying ANY attention, you'd know that what we are trying to do is just the opposite - get *every* committer in Jakarta onto the PMC, *eliminating* this needless boundary. While closing out everyone else. Like those who are not yet committers. -- Andrew C. Oliver http

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Andrew Aguecheek. Though I like to think of myself more as Feste albeit my girth gives more truth to the former. ;-) -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel

Re: PMC membership : I fear additional responsibility

2003-12-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yep :) That's the interesting part here, and breaking the Jakarta up doesn't solve it - it just pushes the problem upwards to the board. +1 -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost

Re: Jakarta: Confederation or Single Project?

2003-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
for who to send and for how long under threat of being closed. This also prevents PMC for life syndrome and makes sure that the PMC serves not only the boards interests but the committers of the projects. It also puts pressure on PMC members to keep discussions public. -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
to the public? -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
This is FUD. No decisions are being made in private. Isn't everything you disagree with? You are making assertions that aren't correct to cast doubt on something. That's commonly known as FUD. I'm sorry, I hallucinated that we were having all of these discussions about the future

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm sorry, I hallucinated that we were having all of these discussions about the future of jakarta and how to best reorganize it on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember what you said. You said that decisions were being made in private. Oh yes, I hallucinated the [VOTE] threads too. Damn those

Just in case you're curious

2003-12-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The reason everything is quiet here is all decisions are being made on private lists now. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-06 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 12/5/03 2:45 AM, Martin Poeschl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: So far it sounds to me like JCS is only used by Turbine and that only the Turbiners really care about it. it is indirectly used by turbine ... that's why the discussion started ... it is used by torque

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-06 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
certainly doesn't make me want to volunteer to understand the matter or work towards its resolution. On 12/5/03 1:06 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 23:35, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: So far it sounds to me like JCS is only used by Turbine and that only

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 12/1/03 2:02 AM, Stephen McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of discussion. Excellent. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. Avalon has no stranglehold on frameworks. If you agree with me then why is this so emotional to you? Nevermind, lets end this, you get the last word. ;-) -Andy Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Perhaps you missed that part of my message. No - I didn't miss anything. What you could do is try

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework / status

2003-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
note, what is the current status of HiveMind? the site is still blanked out in Commons. Could someone please update general as to the current situation re: HiveMind? Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I don't think that Avalon has any right to have a stranglehold on all service frameworks. I

Re: mail2.html - mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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HELP WANTED or The merge is on! HSSF- now with improvedperformance for your pleasure!

2003-07-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
this is the best time/place. We have a very clear objective, and its often easier to learn in a debugger with a big red bar of a unit test result than staring at the code wondering what you should do. Thanks, -Andy cc: general just in case any volunteers are interested. cc: I'll blog this too ;-) -- Andrew C

Re: http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html

2003-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. Any thoughts? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation

Re: Apache != HTTPD

2003-07-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: [i18n] Internationalization project

2003-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: [i18n] Internationalization project

2003-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
get off the ground. - robert On Monday, July 14, 2003, at 02:50 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: -1 this would exclude possible interested international folks. We should keep the discussion on a list open to everyone! On 7/14/03 2:21 AM, Robert Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL

Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?

2003-07-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
trying to do this on POI, we just have a shortage of people. We've already got the source organization. Anyone who wants to help translate will be given commit access pretty quickly. Any ideas? Regards -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements

Re: Possibly Include HTMLParser Jar in contrib code?

2003-07-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
to add another 10 unicode mappings, and really would like a better solution! Sincerely, Eric Pugh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http

Re: XML Beans advertised on Jakarta ... Re: Vote for XMLBeansproposal

2003-07-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
on the every other one? Though its fine with me... ;-) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com

Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?

2003-07-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
that is a conversation best held at [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-p ;-) -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI

Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
the project differs technically from other open source projects. Cliff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com

Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. There are far more issues that must be worked out and confusion between a potential Apache project and an Apache project should be avoided. I still feel a little bit like this should start on sourceforge, round out the community issues, then move to incubator Thoughts? -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver

Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
comment. On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: In summary the most serious issues to this proposal are: 1. diversity of committership. I'd personally like to see 51% of the ACTIVE committership from a different company. So long as a decision in one company can MAKE the vote, you

Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
, July 03, 2003 11:01 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: So what in this ensures this will be a community-developed project and not just an Apache branded extension of BEA? I really would like to see you guys involved in Apache, but not in a way the compromises Apache. There is a challenge

Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On 7/3/03 3:50 PM, Cliff Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:57 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: 2. Pick your project. I think it would have been a lot less confusing to mail the proposal to Jakarta or XML. Personally, if this is a Java only project, I think

[VOTE] Howard Lewis Ship PMC Nomination

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http

Re: [VOTE] Howard Lewis Ship PMC Nomination

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Howard for King On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: +1 On 7/3/03 4:59 PM, Howard M. Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anything every happen on this? I remember ACO sending out a message, but I don't know if it every made it to a vote. I'd really

Re: [VOTE] Howard Lewis Ship PMC Nomination

2003-07-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
was needed to instate him (like tell him how to subscribe) Now if he crowns himselfwe'll have to send troops and banish him to a small islandor come at him with knifes...depends on what kind of emperor he is -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements

Re: The vendors page

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI

Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-07-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
this morning's mail) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation

Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-07-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI

The vendors page

2003-07-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
employ on the Jakarta projects you support make the change. Thus tightening it from people who support Jakarta projects to people who support Jakarta projects. Thoughts/Objections? -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation

Semi-OT FSF on Linux

2003-06-28 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/sco-statement.html I have to say, that¹s the best rationalization for viral clauses in licenses that I've seen to date. -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http

Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
). -Andy On 6/27/03 10:32 AM, Andrus Adamchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI

Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. -Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation

Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

2003-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Unfortunately only someone who doesn't use Outlook can really sue M$. You see the license agreement says you hold them harmless. Now a non-party to the license agreement can obviously sue them (I think). -Andy On 6/27/03 1:58 PM, Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew C. Oliver

Re: Apache vote on TCK re Sun

2003-06-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
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Re: Request to grant karma for jakarta-site2/xdocs/sitetoluehe

2003-06-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahh, so that a portion of the community is excluded from participating in the conversation... Good move ;-) Mr. Ed is deadtake that Ed, take that! -Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom

Re: Request to grant karma for jakarta-site2/xdocs/sitetoluehe

2003-06-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=135 If you want to CC it to Jakarta-General, do so. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew C. Oliver http

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