Re: [Gimp-user] commercial use
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:32:31 pm Matthew Corrie Wade wrote: Hello. I would like to be able to use Gimp to alter designs for commercial use - is this allowed? I several others in Australia use GIMP for this have never run into a problem. Unlike certain other commercial enterprises, Open Source licenses typically do not have specific exceptions for commercial use. The one near-exception I know of is the Creative Commons ShareAlike license which _can_ have exceptions like this sample one I drummed up: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ Thanks for your time. Like everything else I have or am, happy to put it to a good purpose. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Rotate increases PNG size x10 !
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:04:57 am Branko Vukelic wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, Philip Rhoades wrote: What is going on with these size increases? It may be that after rotation, pixels that were otherwise the same color got anti-aliased and were slightly different color. This would increase the image size. Branco, that may account for the increased size of a _rotated_ image, but Phil also increased the size simply during a re-save of an unchanged image. Phil, I suspect that when re-saving that image, you may wish to check the Advanced Settings popup to ensure that the PNG compression ratio is set to maximum at the time. WRT the rotated image, it wouldn't so much be anti- aliasing as that the rotation is unlikely to be precisely right-angled, so pixels along edges would be partially coloured, which would make the PNG compression process less efficient. If the image is text or something else essentially monochrome, Phil might try desaturating, then (regardless of desat) Auto/Stretch Contrast. This should minimise colour-gradient effects somewhat, so provide for more effective compression. If minute details are not so important, saving as JPeG will reduce the size massively without serious loss of visual quality. Loss of quality can be adjusted to a reasonable compromise level within the JPeG settings during SaveAs. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Delete to transparency
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 18:56:04 Theo M wrote: was under the impression that the I could delete to transparency, and despite my best efforts I could not get it work. If you imported the image or layer from a JPeG (.jpg) file, it will not have an alpha property for that layer. Use menu: Layer / Transparency / Add alpha channel Delete will then (by default) make the deleted section transparent. When you save back to a JPeG, GIMP will paint the background (of the saved image only) white. Save into an XCF file to retain all of the layers, transparency, etc. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Commercial Use of GIMP
On Monday 01 June 2009 23:57:48 Cilengir, Erika wrote: Is GIMP available for commercial use? Erika, GIMP is available for practically any use. Free as in $. Unlike (for example) PhotoShop, you can change GIMP if you like so that it looks or acts more usefully for your purposes. Free as in not imprisoned. GIMP doesn't mind if you frown or lie to it. It isn't subject to control-freaks (immune to Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder). Free as in freedom of choice. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report
On Monday 27 April 2009 08:11:14 Noel Stoutenburg wrote: For me at the moment, this is an inconvenience, as I've a choice of a couple of applications in which I can enter a desired text, and export a graphic selection containing the necessary text, but at minimum we have here of an inconsistency between the documentation, and the application being documented. Here on Mandriva Linux (KDE 4) I can use KCharSelect to choose the letter, then copy/paste that into GIMP's text tool. None of the Alt-### stuff works at all, anywhere. I agree that the documentation should be more speculative in its description of the process. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating scripts using Perl^H^H^H^HRuby
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: Try installing the packages gimp-devel Done. and ruby-devel, Already in. downlaod gimp-ruby source (for example with: svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimp-ruby/trunk gimp-ruby Err... first urpmi subversion (is on CD3 of 2008.0 install set). Checked out revision 81. Hmmm, says I must have Gimp 2.3 installed, but... $ rpm -q gimp gimp-2.4.0-0.rc2.3mdv2008.0 # autogen.sh (whinge about intltool) # urpmi intltool installing intltool-0.36.2-1mdv2008.0.noarch.rpm # autogen.sh (much scribble) # make (much more scribble) # make install (page-full of scribble) # and see if you get it working from there. Oh, good, I have a new Ruby-fu menu under Xtns, from which at least Sphere seems to work. (-: Thanks, Joao! Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://linux.org.au/ PastCommittee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating scripts using Perl^H^H^H^HRuby
On Sun, 4 May 2008, Xavier Mas wrote: Thank you js. Being useful seems to be a long-term habit for Joao. I don't think that it's just because he's Brasiliano, either. (-: Being weird seems to be a habit for me: I'd like to script GIMP in Ruby instead. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://linux.org.au/ PastCommittee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Creating scripts using Perl^H^H^H^HRuby
On Sun, 4 May 2008, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: Good morning, South America! (-: Just cehck the apropriate package (probably named gimp-ruby) from your distro Mandriva 2008.0 on this laptop, about to be 2008.1 AKA spring. Has perl-Gimp gimp-python but nothing to do with Ruby on GIMP (but there are plugins ruby-rbogl, ruby-gtk2, ruby-game, ruby-mysql, ruby-RMagick about). Will see if 2008.1 has anything extra. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://linux.org.au/ PastCommittee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Feathered selections
I walked a lady through GIMP on Windows 2000 today, she was delighted with it. A feature that she particularly liked was being able to select things (wand, oval, block, whatever) then feather the selection so whatever you did had no sharp edges. She also liked being able to select with the wand, then tidy up using Ctrl the other selection tools before actually doing anything with the selection. This visual interaction with the selection tools particularly struck me when she noticed that a rectangular selection grew rounded corners when it was feathered. So I started wondering: is it feasible to do something like make the selection's borders gently more fuzzy or translucent when a selection is feathered? That would just about make her day. Her approach to many things is artistic a little impulsive, so I think that makes her reactions a good benchmark of non-technical users in general. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Feathered selections
On Thursday 15 November 2007 04:29:00 Akkana Peck wrote: But there's a solution for your friend in the meantime: the Quickmask. Click on that inconspicuous little square down at the bottom left of the image window, in the corner between the scrollbar and the ruler. That switches to Quickmask mode, in which anything that is *not* selected is red. You can see fuzzy borders really well with the quickmask Thanks, good idea. I'll give Vickey a few days to play with her existing toys, then drop that on her. She likes painting doing similar artwork, so I suspect that QM mode will appeal to her instincts. She talks to a fair few people (in person by email) her husband Ronn is fairly well known here, too, so Wilbur's fame should get around quite handily. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] dial-up (was: upgrade to Leopard)
On Saturday 03 November 2007 22:31:44 carol irvin wrote: how many people here are on dialup? Me. Mostly due to lack of alternatives. If either the Government or an ISP or both gets an act, we can eventually get a 512kb satellite connection for about AUD$45 a month. Plus ghasp dollars per gigabyte. None of the mobile (cellular) based data networks are functional here (town in Western side of Tasmania) (very few even work for telephones), the sole alternative (called OneWire) is wireless within town (to fixed-point Yagi antennae) but sometimes works out slower than dialup. There is no DSLAM in the exchange, nor even any promises from telcos about one. So no ADSL. There is no real wireless. This is quite a change from the city of Perth, Western Australia, where barebone ADSL can be had from AUD$15 a month, real (ADSL2, 6 Mb vs 800 kb, 10GB/month) from AUD$49 a month, wireless (most areas, about AUD$90 a month), mobile (everywhere, from about AUD$120 a month for a useful plan), etc. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.4.0; available for Mac also?
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 02:26:29 John Culleton wrote: All that was released today was the source code. Binaries for various platforms will come later. I use 2.4rc3 on my slackware Linux system. Is this the same as the final release? It seems to work fine. I tried 2.4-for-real for Win32 the other day nothing leaped out to say I'm different! when compared with 2.4-rc3 on Ubuntu Gutsy -- but that doesn't necessarily say very much about changes under the hood, which may be extensive. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.4 released
On Friday 26 October 2007 19:03:36 Jeffery Small wrote: Does the new release include up-to-date documentation on new features like the healing and perspective cloning tools? Can't recall having seen the docs but these features did do stuff when I whipped the Win32 edition into life this afternoon (hello from GMT+10+DST). Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] colour to black and white
On Thursday 25 October 2007 23:18:04 norman wrote: I would like to be able to produce a black and white negative image from an ordinary colour image. I'm lazy, so desaturating on luminosity works well enough for me. If I wanted to alter the colours, I'd put the image through a colour-map first. For example, I have a shot of an evolutionary sequence which runs from a little ape-like fellow through Magnon to a normal human standing tall, who then picks up a rake starts to bend down again as a result, so on through a jackhammer until he's sitting worshipfully at a computer keyboard. I boosted the blue (Colours, Curves) a fair bit, then desaturated that for a slightly sharper-looking monochrome image. Not sure why artists do this, but the modern-man figures were all Caucasian, boosting the blue up fairly strongly, emphasised the contrast between these fellows everyone else up to Mr Cro-Magnon, inclusive, who all had fairly mid-range colours.. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Saturday 20 October 2007 18:34:49 norman wrote: I have just looked at the Ubuntu 7.10 'try it first disc' and Gimp 2.4rc3 was on it. I've finally got that installed on Feisty. I started too soon, as Richard Hirner (thanks!) sent me a link for a native Feisty package after I'd got all of the strings loose. It's taken 49 package updates the Feisty kinda thinks it's Gutsy at the moment. Good-night from GMT+11 (GMT+10+DST), I'll let you know soonish how it actually runs. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Saturday 20 October 2007 20:59:15 Leon Brooks GIMP wrote: It's taken 49 package updates Correction, 79 packages including a couple of _games_ I had to update to track changes in font-names used in a GIMP dependency. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Saturday 20 October 2007 20:59:15 Leon Brooks GIMP wrote: I'll let you know soonish how it actually runs. This RAM-limited Celeron 566 makes it run kind of slowly, but it does run reliably some of the newer tools are enjoyable. A friend from the other side of Oz will be mailing me a set of Gutsy CDs a DVD, so I'll use those to update all of the way when they arrive. Wouldn't surprise me to see Ubuntu put real 2.4 up as an update to replace ~rc3 shortly. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) OBTW, the package list is here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/gimp I'm fetching from Pacific, which happens to be in Sydney, near where this dialup has its POP (although I'm actually in western Tasmania). The wonders of the Internet would be happy to fetch it from Belgium or Canada instead, but if dialup accounts cared, that would be free (no quota) traffic fast (not that Mr 5.2kB/s Modem cares about that, either :-). Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: I've been messing with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) and it installed RC3 from the start. It seems to have enough packages to keep Feisty happy, is even small enough to download over dialup in an afternoon. I'll dpkg this shortly. I might get pitched off-line shortly by SWMBO, but if not, I'll let you know how it went. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: On 10/18/07, Leon Brooks GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, if anyone sees a real 2.4 DEB or RPM source, please drop a message on this list saying so. Both I my sister-in-law photographer would like to graduate from earlyish 2.3s, I;ve been messing with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) and it installed RC3 from the start. Maybe you can find the DEBs in their repositories? Hmm. Fires up an Ubuntu Feisty desktop... Only 2.2.13 in the optional collection, let's see... Festy Fawn... Gutsy Gibbon... Horrible... er, what sort of interesting animals begin with an H? Here is Tamania we have Devils (done), Quolls (way future), Wombats (future) and a kind of Wallaby called a Pademelon (future). Hmmm... (-: OK, Gutsy has 2.4.0~rc3 so I might give that a whirl (Pacific Internet's mirror seems to have a copy). I wonder what other dependencies I'll have to drag down -- other than an entire distro, which would be more than a little tedious over this dialup link. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 05:29:49 kerry wrote: Please could you tell me where I can download the 2.4 for windows in complete package AFAIK, nowhere. Wait a few days, at worst a week or two for 2.4 to be fully released the Windows packagers to catch up. BTW, if anyone sees a real 2.4 DEB or RPM source, please drop a message on this list saying so. Both I my sister-in-law photographer would like to graduate from earlyish 2.3s, Oh, she also has a Windows laptop, so she'd also be interested in 2.4 for Win32 for those hard days. (=: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional
On Thursday 11 October 2007 00:50:09 J Figueroa G - Gmail wrote: (I dont speak and read english so much) Don't worry about it (No worries! here in Australia). I'd just be guessing if I _chose_ your native language as Spanish or something like it (Casablanca?), would have to patiently spend time (days or weeks) learning to _speak_ the language in order to say anything more useful than hello. If it's Latin-based I could possibly blunder my way through most of it, but it would be entertaining for you (or any other onlooker) to watch me try that. My knowledge outside of English is almost zero. I was born in Canada of Australian parents, promptly (2 years) imported back into Australia again. I have friends from various parts of Africa, Peru, Laos, Brazil, France, Italy, Poland etc but that hasn't been enough to prompt me to learn another language. Oh, except for C, ForTran, BASIC, PHP, Pascal, Modula2, assembler... Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: national park pictures (art psychiatry)
On Friday 05 October 2007 04:21:32 carol irvin wrote: I've always suspected that this is because art is my escape from reality. Ah, well, at least you know what that is... that an Open Free escape is much safer more useful than one of those complex psycho-whatsisnames. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] photo resolution
On Friday 05 October 2007 00:03:14 David Heino wrote: is 72 dpi still sufficient across all possible monitors--a little lap top screen to a large screen HDTV? There ain't no simple answer to that. A simple laptop screen starts at about 1024x768 pixels (dots) so a 72DPI picture to cover that entirely would be about 14 inches by 11 inches. You don't want to cover that much in a web page, because there will be some actual page surrounding the image, plus web browser window frames etc. My wife's 19-inch CRT is set to about 2000x1500 pixels, so the answer for that is about double. Anyone using even larger monitors will be more than accustomed to stuff not fitting. One possible/partial answer is to use some JavaScript to read the window's dimensions alter the width height parameters of the IMG tag to scale whatever you provide, so it fits. To get really fancy, provide several different images have your JS select the closest fit scale that. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP learning sites
On Friday 05 October 2007 00:22:59 carol irvin wrote: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Gimp/OptimisingImagesForWeb? topic=WebHome http://gimp.org/tutorials/ http://meetthegimp.org/?cat=8 http://www.gimpguru.org/ http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/ http://gug.sunsite.dk/ All mookbarked now, thank you! (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 04:35:36 David Southwell wrote: IMHO photoshop is NOT a tool designed for the average user. Average can mean typical it can mean numbers (as in mean/mode/median), either way, PS fits the bill. So if you want to struggle with an average creativity ceiling suffer average problems, you would choose CS. A lot of people (can't offer you numbers on this one, have to settle for many) regard average as the only reasonable alternative to failure. They won't necessarily _say_ this when discussing it, but that's how it operates in Real Life. The essence of this approach is that it makes them allergic to true success to attributes like innovation. When marketing to these users (or their bosses) I suspect you'd have to figure out what they're hedging against in specifying PS, then show how GIMP clearly offers them better results _in_their_terms_. This is doubly hard because opening discussion on the very topic which subtly terrifies them simply raises internal horror shuts down communication. So you have to be subtle about it, probably approach it under the guise of the fabulous new gadget I found which seems to solve X, Y Z rather than this PS replacement that we're going to bet the boat on. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] carol's art work over on YouTube, Picasa web albums Cafe Press
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:26:33 carol irvin wrote: I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to do this completely in Gimp if I set my mind to it. I don't collaborate with any other artists so it doesn't matter what I use. More than that, you have people you can actually ask to *change* what GIMP does -- they might, whereas PS is nailed in stone (or really, nailed to the whims aspirations of their developers' managers) so won't listen if you're less than Ford, or Boeing, or NASA, or Brazil. So by all means contribute to Wilbur's breeding, if you see a facility which might be useful but doesn't exist yet. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as , save a copy , save, open
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote: The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the problems brought up the user who started the thread. I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which will instantly recall the most recent one. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:06:09 Sven Neumann wrote: We are listening to our users. That's why we have this mailing- list and actually read about the problems and needs of our users. Round of applause, that sentiment. (-: Now I need to organise my own life better so I can make space to actually contribute code, rather than just words. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs art (was: Photoshop UI)
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:48:09 you wrote: Each person (who wanted to participate) would take an art step phase further using GIMP until we had a completed art work. For example, let's say you'd start it using a brush. Then maybe I'd go into what you did with an eraser and make it something else. Then maybe [self] would use both versions as layers and run the two through the modes (multiple, burn, dodge, etc.,) until finding his own versionand so on down the line. each person would explain what he did in GIMP to get to his phase as well. Since my skills as an artist are kind of regrettable, I very much like this idea would like to second it, or whatever. Doing something by degrees makes it a lot less daunting, if I managed to muck something up, it would be my own copy only, (a feature difficult to replicate with physical artworks :-). Besides that, mucking something up is a lesson in itself, both to warn others because someone else might be able to imagine a way to make the original idea work. I think dumping the results on a Wiki would be helpful, also, both to make fetching a starting-point relatively simple, to keep a kind of history of what various people have tried. The history is also useful for both inspiration correction. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy , save, open
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:56:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista- ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. Or to inspire you to make a really robust portable GTK version which *will* run on Vista. At least under GIMP if nowhere else. (-: An advantage to making it fly under GTK is that it then becomes reasonable to use the features with other apps, naturally including file managers. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] carol the floating selection (now working in layers!)
On Monday 01 October 2007 13:57:40 carol irvin wrote: then i altered that version with a filter. and, drum roll please, made them into two layers! Tah-daaah! Round of applause! (-: Perhaps GIMP can develop some new modes so that future versions of plugins etc can *optionally* make a new layer as they go? Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] floating selection
On Sunday 30 September 2007 01:31:44 carol irvin wrote: I suspect I need to do something every time I do a paste that converts the paste into its own layer. Yah, New Layer. I'm sure that there's a keyboard shortcut for that, but the GIMP (along with a few other apps) is broken on this antique Celeron so I can't easily find out what it is. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Saturday 29 September 2007 01:51:59 carol irvin wrote: I am switching myself to open source programs whenever I can to save money. It is no more complex than that. Hi Carol! Um, I convert people to OpenOffice who basically don't give a hoot about the $$$. They adopt it because: * They don't need to get permission to spend $$$ (OK, so that's partially $$$ oriented); * OOo can often recover broken or virussed MSO documents (-: the delight registering on faces as the impossible transpires a couple of days or weeks of work is instantly recovered is immeasurable :-); * It spits out PDFs without any extra software; * It runs on anything (so someone can use a Mac at home vs WinXP at work still face the same software -- oh, ($$$) not have to pay for it twice); * Some users much prefer OOo's stylesheets, or template management, or whatever even down to one lad who prefers the view-nonprinting-characters mode; * One clear-cut preferral for the better HTML editing facilities; * They can successfully read write old MSO ( OOo) docs; * It's better at importing Plain Text, CSVs or InsertRandomFormat documents; * Variety of features down to Insert Special Character working better, or simply having Insert Formatting Mark, or sundry other added features; * so on. In short, you may be doing yourself out of the better parts of the deal by simply sticking to financial reasons, essentially ignoring the others. It's a bit like reading scripture for doctrinal reasons only: you miss out on the really juicy bits. (-: I have Linux users who use the penguin because: * It's free (yay, most of them don't know or care); * They can read email, browse the web, word process; * There are no viruses (well, there actually are a few, but zero of my users have ever tripped over one, it's kind of heart- warming to have your users tell of other systems blitzing into the ground in spiralling clouds of greasy smoke while they continue their work unabated); * Things don't change by themselves (well... the machines are set to auto-update, so things do eventually change, but what they're talking about is the random config changes transient insanity so typical of MS-Windows machines); * The tools to fix (or alter) almost anything are immediately to hand. In short: cost-sorta/functionality/safety/reliability/flexibility. Cost is one factor of 5, in Real Life(tm) is often irrelevant. GIMP is not *quite* the same, in that compatibility with another app (not always PS) is more often a concern, but in general terms the cases are close enough. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Friday 28 September 2007 01:00:45 George Farris wrote: If you can provide hard data that backs this up with numbers Unfortunately, this is the Real World(tm), rejection can be as simple as it looks too different. However, I would be interested in hard numbers too. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Brazilan Zine about GIMP
On Friday 28 September 2007 02:37:14 Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: Unfortunatelly all articles are in Brazillian Portuguese only. Yeah? I do like it when I'm able to read something in languages other than English. BrazPort is something I could at best blunder my way through, but it usually carries a kind of expressiveness that plaid old English often lacks. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:17:50 jim feldman wrote: Even with it's bit depth shortcoming, I'd still take GIMP's mature tool set over anything OTHER than PS CS2/3 (at a mere $649US) Approximating the $USD-$AUD conversions (http://www.xe.com/ucc/), that's AUD$743, about the cost of a complete system with dual CPU, a couple of GB of RAM, a pair of RAIDed IDE or SATA drives to the tune of about 300GB, a decent 19 flat screen, a graphics tablet a scanner. So you'd have to spend some time convincing me that PS was worth the extra bananas. (-: Oh, that spending the AUD$750 extra on a better camera wouldn't be a more effective investment :-) Oh, yes, PS requires Windows, so the cost doesn't include AUD$231.70 for Vista (Business OEM, or I could shell out AUD$2167 for 2003 Premium R2), or about AUD$130 for an interfering virus scanner (or about AUD$500 for one that works). Of course, I'd use OpenOffice for office software (save AUD$332 on MS-Office Small Business OEM), Firefox for a browser, ThunderBird for email so on, but the real cost is still AUD$1105 plus risks. I could go for a *pair* of decent 19 flatscreens bump the drive sizes up to 500GB. So tell me again why I'd jilt Wilbur for PhotoShock rather than wait for GIMP 2.5 releases around close of trade this year? (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Opening pictures taken with an Olympus E-510 fails every time
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 02:34:13 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Do I still have the old version? [...] Do I have both versions so I need to make GIMP use the new one rather than the old one? Maybe. Try ldd $(which gimp) see what it says. On this system (updated Ubuntu Fiesty) gimp is in /usr/bin/ the libraries for it are all in /usr/lib/ (but I don't see any libexif listed). To see what libexifs you have, try ls -l /usr/lib/*exif* because the compilation may have defaulted to somewhere like /usr/local/lib/ or /opt/lib/ or something else which may not be in your libraries list. Look in /etc/ld.so.conf to see which directories ldconfig searches for libraries. If the configure did use some odd directory, try the configure line as this, then re-do the makes: ./configure --prefix=/usr As root (sudo'ed) try an ldconfig) see if that changes the above ldd report. Uhh... this is probably a mite too complex for some of y'all but it may help Johnny can be safely ignored by others. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On Thursday 27 September 2007 03:49:25 Sven Neumann wrote: Do you even know what you are talking about? I don't think so. Oh. Someone seems to have put Sven into Happy Mode. (-: I must say that as a programming novitiate, sorta, I do find the open to- fro-ing on lists like GIMP's very informative. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] photography
On Thursday 13 September 2007 17:58:02 norman wrote: This is very much due to a video course I am following on www.meetthegimp.org which, in my opinion, is a great place to start for the amateur photographer. Hello from sunny Tullah, Tasmania, where dialup is the peak of modern Internet connectivity. Videos are not a real option here, but OTOH there is plenty to point a camera at. Here are some grotty throwaway shots from a Fuji camera: http://tullah.fit2.bur.st/ I've heard good things said about the Canon 40D (a DSLR) by people who actually use the suckers for a living. Still ghasp dollars an item, but fairly good value for the ghasp. It's like a cut-down version of the 5D, which is an excellent little gadget. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] photography
On Thursday 13 September 2007 20:25:33 you wrote: To set in turn of cost: Sony Alpha 700 (1400 USD), Canon 40D (1500+ USD), Nikon D300 (1800+ USD). Thaks for that nice, simple list. I got good value out of a Sony DSC-F707 until the day I ran it over with my 2t van. Several of the pro photographers I know have longed for a Canon 5D but not been able to afford one; they all seem to think well of the 40D, after studying it, Not perfect, but close enough, sort of thing. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about GIMP CMYK support.
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 09:19, Owen wrote: 2. Do you really need to make cmyk plates? Printing companies do, yes. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://www.taslug.org.au/ Member, Tasmania Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/PastCommittee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] New small user manual for gimp newbies made
On Saturday 04 August 2007, Niels Larsen wrote: The address is http://www.minihowto.org Good idea, trying that, it seems to have an odd sort of rate-limiting thingy which let me grab over 100k in my first run, then lets about 8-24k go in a bunch each retry. This is over a dial-up modem, so I'm not exactly hammering it for load. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://www.taslug.org.au/ Member, Tasmania Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/PastCommittee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] New small user manual for gimp newbies made
On Saturday 04 August 2007, Niels Larsen wrote: A small beginners minihowto about gimp is made. Got it, many retries later. Looks good, about 4% text the rest JPEGs. Will post a more detailed comment after having walked through it. Hello from Tasmania, under the East end of Australia. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://www.taslug.org.au/ Member, Tasmania Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/PastCommittee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: Why is this our problem? Our list our community is being distracted by it. That gives us a facet of the problem. We can reduce that facet by simply saying That's a GimpShop problem, please take it http://here/; in response. Hopefully, this will prompt GimpShop developer(s) to put up their own fora, even if only in self defence. One possible (not likely, you'll notice, but possible) outcome is that having GIMP-friendly moderators will lead to participants pressuring GimpShop developers to turn it into a a collection of patches on GIMP, or maybe a GIMP module of some kind. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] usability enhancements (was: newbie)
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Raphaël Quinet wrote: You will also find many little things that have been improved to guide the user along the way, such as tooltips for all menu items (quick description of what each filter does) or status bar messages that help you to remember how to use each tool and what to do with Ctrl/Alt/Shift. Yah, I think improvements which make a gazillion little improvements across the board are both very difficult to usefully describe beyond it's better and and very important. This makes the announcements tend to either be overwhelming, confusing prose or uninformitavely brief. Let's have a go, and see if I can cover everything in one short par, but still be informative: Extensive improvements to User Interface factors, such as improved shortcuts, plus informative status messages tooltips to let the user know what is actually happening at any instant. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: The GPL allows forks, but doesn't require the organization that was forked from to provide support to the fork. True. However, I'm wondering if there's anyone here willing to moderate such a list, what it would coist to run such at Berkeley? The logic is that it would take such posts away from the main list (which you're reading now) really be helping people. The downside is that it could be seen as supporting GimpShop despite the developer's entire unwillingness to join this community. In answer to the second point, are are any other good, free (yeah, yeah, I know) list servers in action that you'd recommend someone independant started a support list on? The idea behind that is to take the traffic away but still be able to monitor it, so that despite said developer's approach, good ideas could be captured for the benefit of *both* packages. And, who knows, bad ideas might even get a little slapping about before anyone implements them, so establishing a precendent. If enough people here think the idea's basically a winner, I might ask Linux Australia to be a list host, with the idea of inviting a few others here along as moderators. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
On Monday 09 July 2007, Sven Neumann wrote: I just tried to help you by pointing out that gimpshop is a different application and that you should try to get support for it from the people who did the fork. If you did that you might have found out that there is no such support. You might then reconsider your decision, but that is of course completely up to you. Hi, Sven! I appreciate the help you've given me at various times over the years, and I suspect that an ideal route to follow at this point might be to add a Wiki entry which carefully, politely explains this in great detail. Then future queries can be answered like this: GimpShop is a different product to GIMP. Read about the differences and support issues here: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpShop I'd happily write up such a page but I know practically nothing about the background of GimpShop, so I've just put a brief stop-gap into the Wiki. I've linked to GimpShop and PhotoShop (both on Wikipedia), so if that's not the right thing to do, please erase the links. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
On Monday 09 July 2007, David Southwell wrote: A gui that emulates photoshop is really needed. If it were done as a wrapper idea over standard GIMP, and integrated, I could easily agree with that. Much better again if it were modular, so you could enable and disable PS-ish chunks. The current gung-ho we-know-better approach is hardly conducive to co-operation, and I suspect that the result will be a poor man's clone of PS, one which continually lags behind both PS and GIMP. Abandoning core GIMP work to support it will hurt GS first up because it will stop providing better platforms from which to build the clones, second up by making PS more of a false standard to which GS must constantly be in pursuit. With this in mind, the ideal thing to do is to start (without, of course, asking the GS developers) a GimpShop Clone which is a more modular menuing system for GIMP, expressed as a PS-like overlay. Call it PhotoGIMP and listen to the whinging! (-: Things like a PS plugin-plugin would be a worthy but I think separate project. Amongst other things, you could probably convince such a beastie to run essentially headless. Call it PhotoFactory and see what other whinges arise? It would be in the spirit of the thing to do overlays for TuxPaint, GPhoto, MS-Paint or whatever as well. Anyway, that's my 2c worth. End of conversation, I suspect. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - not-gimpshop
On Monday 09 July 2007, Raphaël Quinet wrote: I have updated this wiki page Excellent! Thank you! I have also added a short description of some technical problems related to the fork (code conflicts, breaking translations) and again, this section can be expanded if anybody feels like writing more about it. Yah, it's an area I have little expertise on. Good to see some knowledge appearing here. (-: Now I hope that we can get back to discussing GIMP on this list... Ah, yes. One overlay I'd like to see appear is *not* a PS clone, it's an overlay that makes GIMP instantly useful to newbies, so runs things in modes and fashions they expect. This would have to be a separate project of sorts, with its own lists and stuff else it would cause list flooding to pale today's events into total insignificance. I'd like to see it done in a sort of minimalist fashion, modifying as little as possible to meet the expectations of its anticipated user-base. I'll probably get slandered for suggesting this, but... nothing ventured, nothing pained (or something like that). How about calling it Wilbur out out, as a way of signifying a cute cuddly GIMP? Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP magazine, was: LJ not very enamoured
On Thursday 21 June 2007, Michael Schumacher wrote: Sounds like the article uses Cinepaint propaganda without original research. You could be right on the money. It's typical (speaking from experience here) for magazine article authors to be under time pressure, so they don't always feel free to do as much research as they'd like (and as they should). Which leads me to my next question/suggestion: have any of us considered putting together a magazine website? If it went well, we could get all ambitious and turn it into a paper raga as well, but the general idea would be to present a semi-official place to collect both competent critisims (like Mr Hammel's) and also an occasional article on plain old using the GIMP, plus one on artistic techniques (thinks like recoving faces from botched photos, differences from other programs, an article or two from developers on what's gunner happen to GIMP how why. I think we could do a little light advertising (GIMP and graphics focus) as well, to cover hosting costs et al, but I'm happy to volunteer to put the effort in to run the site (call the post abuse server?) and nag people for articles etc. The leading question, I guess, would be: does such a beastie exist already? How much duplication of effort would it involve? The printed graphics magazines available here in Oz tend to be quite expensive, and if they have a product focus, it'll typically be PhotoShop. So you could call this filling a personal need. I'm not in a position to run a server (net access here is dialup -- slow -- or satellite -- $$$ for data -- so what we'd need to do this voluntarily is someone with an ADSL or similar link with a few spare gigabytes and a machine which won't mind being a DNS and web server (which implies a fixed IP address). Thankfully, this is gravy for Linux. Under Mandriva, I'd do something like urpmi apache-mod_php apache-ssl bind and edit up a new user with write access to a virtual hosting directory (then you could run several independent sites). Debianoid systems would be a similar command, with apt-get or the like. Aaanyway, the point of a mailing list is to comment, so please educate me! (-: What do you think? Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/Member, Linux Professionals WA http://osia.net.au/ Member, Open Source Industry Australia http://linux.org.au/Committee Member, Linux Australia ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
John Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. I personally think GIMP's cute (especially that wolf logo). But I'll put the question to you carter: if not GIMP, then what? OK, how about i-mage, pronounced eye mage? (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP 2 book, your opinion is...?
Has anyone read /GIMP 2 for Photographers/ yet? There's a review up at: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5105451578.html I'd value your opinion, if you've formed one. Particularly if you're a photographer of any sort. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
