[GO] Crying again

2004-11-10 Thread Shereen Benjamin
Natasha said (of her husband): <<>> I meant to say in response to Susan, it's not when the captain breaks down that gets me, but immediately after, when Maria (aka the completely wonderful Julie) takes up the song, so brave and strong, though she must be feeling just as dreadful as he does ab

[GO] Finding Neverland

2004-11-10 Thread Susan Stead
I saw this at the weekend and thought it was marvellous. I know nothing about Barrie or the true events that inspired the film but I really enjoyed it. Johnny was of course fantastic, handsome and sensitive as ever! But what impressed me most was the performance of the boy (Freddy Highmore I th

[GO] Violets BD: Sick mothers in GO fiction part 1

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
As you will see, this is not at all academic but I hope it will lead people to think of many more examples. I am sending it in two parts. Because of formatting problems when transferring from Word to email, I have had to remove all italics for book titles. I hope it comes out plain for everybody

[GO] Violets BD: Sick mothers in GO fiction part 2

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
Even more realistic is Kathleen O’Farrell’s book Sally Anne Sees it Through (1967), about a working class family living in south London in the 1960s. The Perkins family, Mum, Dad and five children, inhabit the world of the luckier heroines of the Bunty comics of the same era. Sally Anne is four

Re: [GO] Noel Streatfeild

2004-11-10 Thread Tom & Tash
Sorry, yes - clearly expecting everyone to be pyschic! Natasha - Original Message - From: "Susan Dunnachie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Tom & Tash'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Girls Own'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:25 AM Subject: RE: [GO] Noel Streatfeild Which b

Re: [GO] No boats on Bannermere

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
Rosamond, degraded? Even Maidlin works as a waitress at one point. Tig wrote Their mother takes up a trade - and a very menial one (judging by the standards of the period when serving in a teashop can be seen as the ultimate degradation) and not only doesn't bat an eyelid but finds it fun. -- Bar

Re: [GO] WSVS Topic 4: Part I

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
While researching answers for the quiz, I have been astonished to find that there are 'Christian publishers' in the USA who are still printing books first published for the Sunday School trade in the nineteenth century and recommending them as valuable Christian tales. I happen to enjoy these ol

Re: [GO] Finding Neverland

2004-11-10 Thread Nicky Smith
- Original Message - From: "Susan Stead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:24 AM Subject: [GO] Finding Neverland ! But > what impressed me most was the performance of the boy (Freddy Highmore I > think). He was quite, quite brilliant, utterly

Re: [GO] No boats on Bannermere

2004-11-10 Thread Nicky Smith
- Original Message - From: "Barbara Dryden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [GO] No boats on Bannermere > Rosamond, degraded? Even Maidlin works as a waitress at one point. > > Tig wrote > >Their mother takes up a trade

RE: [GO] Barrie film

2004-11-10 Thread Pat Hanby
-Original Message- From: Diane Purkiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2004 06:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GO] Barrie film In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >Oh Natasha, take your hankies with you if you're intending to see it!! >Yep,

Re: [GO] WSVS Topic 4: Part I

2004-11-10 Thread Wards
Yes, there were as many moralistic 'Sunday School' books published in the UK in Victorian times as there were in the USA - maybe more! Usually, as Barbara says, published by RTS, but also by SPCK. I have quite a collection of them from late-Victorian times - but they were still being given as

[GO] My good news OT

2004-11-10 Thread Susan1Sarah2
I have a new job, starting as a library assistant in three weeks and I am really really pleased! I have been a nurse for the last 25 years, mainly in the UK also in Africa and the Middle East and enjoyed it most tof the time but I have got really fed up with it the last few years and have fi

Fw: [GO] WSVS Topic 4

2004-11-10 Thread Wards
I thought I'd sent this reply a few days back, but having looked in the archives I don't think I did! Christine - Original Message - From: "Wards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shereen Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [GO]

Re: [GO] GO] Re: GO Being tearful.

2004-11-10 Thread Margaret Walker
Marguerite mentioned the ending of 'Little Boy Lost' by Marghanita Laski. Oh, lor! I feel weepy again. And the ending of The Once and Future King. There's a short story by Katharine Mansfield, called 'Old Ma' something - can't remember the name. It was part of a GCSE set text, and none of us

Re: [GO] My good news OT

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
Susan wrote I have a new job, starting as a library assistant in three weeks and I am really really pleased! Congratulations! I hope you will enjoy the new job At least the library will be cleaner than our local hospitals. A depressing thought but is it true? I read a piece in one of the weekend

[GO] The Sick Mother

2004-11-10 Thread Diane Purkiss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >It would be tempting to suggest that the ill health suffered by the mothers >of so many GO heroines resulted from married womenâs confinement to the >role of homemaker and their lack of independent means. Such a case does not >s

RE: [GO] Barrie film

2004-11-10 Thread Helen_A
I thoroughly agree! On 10 Nov 2004 at 10:07, Pat Hanby wrote: > Me: Agree with every word! In spite of knowing what really did happen > and over a much longer period, it really captured what I thought was > the spirit of events. Johnny Depp's Scots accent was beautifully > sustained, and littl

Re: [GO] WSVS Topic 4: Part I

2004-11-10 Thread Kate Lambert
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Can any GOers claim to be P&I? I've always kind of envied those who akshully *look* as ill as they feel, you know, the people you take one look at & immediately order a taxi to send them home. Throughout my childhood people kept t

Re: [GO] WSVS E L Haverfield part 2

2004-11-10 Thread Kate Lambert
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Beth & Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Muriels Choice is really good!! and the Discovery of Kate was enjoyable too. I haven't seen Phyll's original post yet but yes I think Haverfield is extremely readable. Kate Tyler says the same in The Book too. I also prefer t

[GO] Re: GO Sunday School prizes

2004-11-10 Thread Debra Grice
Are Sunday School prize books still widely given? The church we went to in England didn't have Sunday School as such, just family services with a creche for very small children, and I think this was the case with other local churches too. The only books comparable my children ever had was from Fat

Re: [GO] No boats on Bannermere

2004-11-10 Thread Sally Dore
- Original Message - From: "Tig Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Having said all that, I do think Trease falls down horribly on the subject > of girls. I wince every time Bill makes some patronising comment about > girls' fuss and chatter and flutter, and I think he treats Penny abominably

Re: [GO] BD Violets The Sick Mother

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
Diane wrote Lying around on sofas stops being heroic and self-sacrificing and becomes selfish and manipulative. Yes, but I think that's a fairly modern view. You could contrast 19th & 20th century attitudes here, perhaps. Yet we still have invalids sympathetically spoken of - by EBD, for instanc

[GO] No Boats on Bannermere

2004-11-10 Thread Tig Thomas
Barbara said:> Rosamond, degraded? Even Maidlin works as a waitress at one point. And Nicky backed this up. You're quite right, both of you. That was definitely a point too far. In fact books of this period are littered with people starting genteel tea shops from M E Atkinson, to Agatha Chris

Re: [GO] Pale and Interesting

2004-11-10 Thread Oscura
- Original Message - From: "claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: [GO] WSVS Topic 4: Part I > Can any GOers claim to be P&I? I've always kind of envied those who > akshully *look* as ill as they feel, you know, the people

Re: [GO] Teashops (was No Boats on Bannermere)

2004-11-10 Thread ReggieRhino
In a message dated 10/11/2004 16:59:21 GMT Standard Time, Tig writes: >You're quite right, both of you. That was definitely a point too far. In fact books of this period are littered with people starting genteel tea shops from M E Atkinson, to Agatha Christie.< There's a memory nagging at

[GO] RE GO Was Pullman's comments. Not sure what it is now.

2004-11-10 Thread September2754
At 04:04 PM 11/8/2004, Deborah A. Fleming wrote:>Wow, Eleanor!  Since you have it all figured out, why the hysteria?You can't refute anything I said, so instead you decide it's hysteria. You could at least not steal the word I used in the first place.>All of that vitriole from you, much of i

[GO] Re: [pale and interesting

2004-11-10 Thread Barba191
Apparently when I had my recent bout of AF I turned very pale(but not interesting, sweaty rather) Barbara -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown

Re: [GO] BD Violets The Sick Mother

2004-11-10 Thread Ann Dowker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Barbara Dryden <> > >And also a representation - as you very rightly suggest - of maternal > >selflessness - Mum works herself to death? So inducing pangs of reader- > >guilt. > > Yes. I'd be glad if people could supply some examples here. I'm afraid my > memory s

[GO] teashops

2004-11-10 Thread Tig Thomas
There's a memory nagging at me which perhaps someone could identify? A book (Christie?) where an elderly lady is a murderess, possibly a multiple murderess, so that she can get the funds to set up a teashop. At the end, someone comments how creepy (my word) it is to have a 'ladylike murdere

Re: [GO] RE GO Was Pullman's comments. Not sure what it is now.

2004-11-10 Thread Eleanor
At 01:10 PM 11/10/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Girls Own really the place for this Eleanor? No. So why didn't you object to the person who needlessly brought it up in the first place, rather than to my response? -- Eleanor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Cherry Ames Page, http://www.cherryamespage.

Re: [GO] Pullman, etc.

2004-11-10 Thread Ann Dowker
In fairness to the poster of the Pullman article: Pullman is on-topic, as he is an influential children's writer, so the article is of interest to us. We have had discussions of Pullman before, and by no means all of us agree with his views! I disagree with most of Antonia Forest's political and

[GO] OT: Bridget Jones: Edge of reason

2004-11-10 Thread Sandra Wright
Woo hoo! I know this is off-topic but Edge of Reason opens today here in Australia and my best friend and I are goging to see it tonight! I am very excited as I have never seen a film on opening day! Just had to share. Thank you! : ) Sandra (whose heart is palpitating at the thought of Colin Firth

Re: [GO] Noel Streatfeild

2004-11-10 Thread Ann Dowker
Oddly enough, I found "When the Sirens Wailed" much more snobbish in its attitude to working-class characters than "The Children of Primrose Lane", even though it was written so much later. I think it has good bits, but it's written too much from the outside. "Primrose Lane" is no doubt an improb

[GO] Sales list

2004-11-10 Thread nicky.j.wade
Am packing up to move so a list of things I can bear to part with. Sorry can only take sterling, cash or cheques postage extra NickyW GBP1.50 each, hb unless stated Jane Shaw: Crew of the Belinda, Crooks Tour, Bernese Adventure, Susan's Helping Hand, Susan Muddles Through, Susan Rushes in, Breto

Re: [GO] OT: Bridget Jones: Edge of reason

2004-11-10 Thread Sandra Wright
Wet Colin AND wet Hugh? (Palpitations increasing!) I think I will definitely enjoy! San - Original Message - From: "Nicky Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [GO] OT: Bridget Jones: Edge of reason > Colin and Hugh get

[GO] Re: Finding Neverland

2004-11-10 Thread Kate Dixon
I saw this at the weekend and thought it was marvellous. I know nothing about Barrie or the true events that inspired the film but I really enjoyed it. Johnny was of course fantastic, handsome and sensitive as ever! But what impressed me most was the performance of the boy (Freddy Highmore I th

[GO] Re: school Christmas plays

2004-11-10 Thread Kate Dixon
> Kate, have we suggested before that it is time you thought about copying the plays > performed by the Chalet Girls? I'm sure your little darlings would love the one about > the Christmas Bells. And we would love to hear about them singing all those obscure > carols! > > Cheers > > Di I think s

[GO] Query about Suffolk bookshops

2004-11-10 Thread kirkhead
Kate said "...but will be getting around to such places as Sudbury, Lavenham and Bury St. Edmonds also. I've never been to any of these places, so can anyone tell me if there are any interesting bookshops..." I was in B-S-E about 3 years ago, and there was one bookshop there - I can't remember ex

Re: [GO] Query about Suffolk bookshops

2004-11-10 Thread kirkhead
That's interesting, Sue - I know the shop you mean in Southwold, having been there camping (Southwold, not the shop!) a few times, but I've never found anything remotely interesting, GO-wise, there. But it's obviously still worth visiting whenever I can Pam K   - Original Message -

Re: [GO] Query about Suffolk bookshops

2004-11-10 Thread Suesuddaby
There's a village called Westleton which has a huge second hand bookshop, with a good pub opposite. The shop's in an old chapel, but it's not very GO. If you get over to the coast three's an antique shop in Southwold which has a few books, up from the sea its on the left behind a basement caf

[GO] Crying in books

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Ann BROWN
Some years ago, I wrote a table (in pencil!) in the front of my pb copy of Little Women, documenting all the times they cried.Counting "tears in eyes", there were numerous instances. Barbara -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-adminis

[GO] Being tearful

2004-11-10 Thread Rose Humphreys
Oh yes, yes, yes! Forgot all about it, but had a reread just a couple of months ago and it just gets worse with each reread! DD is top of my reading list in every possible way and I just wish more people read her. Luckily I've a friend nearby who's also a fan so we can chat. Rose Cape Town Sue

[GO] Teashops

2004-11-10 Thread Diane Purkiss
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, girlsown- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >There's a memory nagging at me which perhaps someone could identify? A book >(Christie?) where an elderly lady is a murderess, possibly a multiple >murderess, so that she can get the funds to set up a teashop. At the end, >

Re: [GO] Barrie film and yet more sobs.

2004-11-10 Thread Tom & Tash
Shereen wrote: Oh Natasha, take your hankies with you if you're intending to see it!! Yep, Mr Llewellyn-Davies is out of the picture before the action begins, and yep, the costumes are fab, though some of the sets aren't how I'd've imagined them. Kensington Gardens looks very nice, though, and t

[GO] School campfire

2004-11-10 Thread Beth & Rich
Hi Does anyone have this in a word doc, as mine got lost when my computer died!! TIA Cheers Beth -- Girlsown mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] For self-administration and access to archives see http://home.it.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/girlsown For FAQ

Re: [GO] WSVS Topic 4

2004-11-10 Thread Wards
Amelia Bloomer was interested in dress reform as well as women's rights and public activism for women. It was in 1852 that the temperance magazine she edited ('The Lily') advocated and carried patterns for 'Turkish pantaloons', which garment became known as 'bloomers' after her. They were usu

Re: [GO] More tears

2004-11-10 Thread Dorian E. Gray
Natasha said... > I read a fanfic on the Chaletian bulletin board about a Chalet Girl In > Trouble last Sunday, and I cried at the end of that. It was very good, in > case the author is on the list! > > http://fiction.chaletian.co.uk/all.php Having read the same story, on foot of Natasha's recco

Re: [GO] Re: Finding Neverland

2004-11-10 Thread Barbara Dryden
There was a brilliant TV series: J M Barrie & the Lost Boys, starring Ian Holm as Barrie. Based on the book by Andrew Birkin, which gives all the facts. Susan wrote I know nothing about Barrie or the true events that inspired the film but I really enjoyed it. Johnny was of course fantastic, hands