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Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
field/col definition for 12-2-9 TXT card:
col
1 12-2-9 / x'02'
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I don't understand is pre sorting a deck that will be used as
input to the computer--couldn't the computer
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I could read ASCII from a paper tape. Took me a while. :-)
previous post in this thread:
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I seem to remember this as TCP/IP version 3.2 with 3.3 having the fixes
for optimization. Weren't there twin stacks being managed or
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(For the AS/400 I never could figure the internal code architecture,
IBM used something called LIC that was
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
It's not just z/OS UNIX.
The first implementation of TCP/IP on OS/390 was a port from VM.
And, it was a pig until they
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Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The first operational 370 hardware supporting virtual memory was a
370/145 engineering processor. However, cp67h
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) writes:
Fixed storage is not only to support diabled users but much more often
used in the ubiquituos I/O processing.
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Bill Ogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The statements about the 360/67 are correct. It was a little ahead of
its time in several ways. The 67's DAT design was a
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) writes:
OS/360 was a real storage only operating system. DAT was introduced with
S/370. OS/390 could run on that
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This has always intrigued me. What was done to eliminate the
possibility that the channel had to access a virtual page that had
been
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Choice Overload In Parallel Programming
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And then we show them the parallel
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John P Baker) writes:
Back in the 80s, we operated under the premise that a seasoned
programmer should be able to produce 20 lines of bug-free
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#39 Inda is outsourcing jobs as well
Why Is US Grad School Mainly Non-US Students?
http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/07/09/29/2027210.shtml
from above:
I am a new graduate student in Computer Engineering. I would like to get my
MS and possibly my
Raymond Noal wrote:
Dear List:
An IBM 4361 Model Group 5 had the ECPS feature -
Extended Control Program Support (ECPS) -- offers VSE mode, VM/370 mode, and
MVS/370 mode. These modes provide microcode assists that make the system control
programs operate more efficiently.
ECPS was
Matthew Stitt wrote:
Because the FBA's and 8809's were boat anchors. And the 3350's and 3420
gave interchangeability with MVS.
With things connected to normal channels the sky was the limit with what
could be done with the 4331. Using the ICA severely limited your devices.
The 3350 and 3420
Edward Jaffe wrote:
I have family all over Virginia. Less developed is probably a good
thing. It's a beautiful state. Lots of history.
There's something very wrong with and/or not being stated in the premise
here. They probably need people in the United States because things
aren't working
Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote:
It's been done many times before, FREEWARE for STRICTLY PERSONAL USE. It
is proven to sell more licences for commercial use. There is precedence, DB2,
Lotus...
personal computing ... freeware or not ... has always shown to contribute
significantly
to useage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Zelden) writes:
Then you switch back. ;-) There are actually a lot of companies that
seem to work that way. That's what happens when bean counters make
the decisions and don't consider the human aspects (time, training etc.)
this is related to the original
George McAliley wrote:
All IBM 3490's on mainframes were either Block MPX channel (bus/tag) or
ESCON. The STK 9490's on mainframe were also ESCON though they did have
a SCSI interface for distributed system attachment. The IBM Magstar (3590)
series were natively FICON and ESCON capable
Chris Mason wrote:
Robert
I thought I'd dig further into this IUCV point and I found a reference
in the IP Configuration Guide. It appears that IUCV, VMCF and TNF
stuff is still available, you just don't necessarily need it. It would
appear to have become an *optional* bit of preparation for
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I put the heavily hit loadlibs such as SYS1.LINKLIB on one side of the VTOC,
and the ISPF libraries on the other side of the VTOC. With todays heavily
cached dasd, that probably will buy you very little anymore.
Very little.
Especially, since it's been over 15 years since
Mark Post wrote:
If you give a Linux guest a 4GB virtual machine, it will have very close
to a 4GB working set. If you give that same Linux guest 64GB, it will
have very close to a 64GB working set. The fact that you say Linux will
use what it needs tells me that you have little or no
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
Also, sub-systems like DB2 are getting to the point where you
should/could/would not like it to page. Sort of throws the concept
out the window, doesn't it?
previous post in thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#41 Virtual Storage implementation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) writes:
Oh, and if you create a 64GB z/VM guest, shame on you. As someone who
is very heavy into z/VM performance once told me, z/VM is very good
at managing large numbers of small things. It's not so good at
managing a smaller number of very large things. I tend
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) writes:
VSE, as I recall, was told that it had 32MB (or something similar) and
VM then took care of the paging (because VSE didn't page in that case)
-- must understand the memory system used by VSE (similar to VS1).
recent posts in this thread:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) writes:
That's still probably too much, if only by a little. The idea is to
force Linux to use as little storage as possible for buffers and
cache, and page out any programs, etc., that haven't been used very
recently. Letting z/VM handle this via expanded
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rugen, Len) writes:
Virtual storage isn't exclusive to MVS - z/OS. One on of the best
presentations I recall was in a VM Performance and Tuning class.
Together with storage protection keys, page tables can be built to allow
different users to have various parts of private,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) writes:
Imagine, you have a 3081 at 100% and you upgraded to a 3084 (basically
you added the other 3081) and you are still at 100%. Or you have a 3033
and you went to a 470/V8. [I'm not saying these were the systems, just
using them as examples.]
3081 was
On Aug 15, 11:11 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (daver++) wrote:
Around 1:30 p.m., the CPB experienced problems accessing its database
containing information on international travelers. Assuming this to be a
wide-area network problem, CBP called Sprint, its carrier, to test the
lines. After three
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
No.
PR/SM is microcode - a code under OS. Sometimes called firmware.
z/OS runs in LPAR. Although it can obtaine i.e. LPAR name, it is still
unaware from PR/SM and LPARs features. z/OS works in virtual
machine (Logical PARtition) and does know that machine.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes:
One of the presentations was someone from a big UK bank who defended
IBM having made the 155 and 165 available and
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) writes:
If the business needs are being satisfied, with reasonable economy,
who cares whether the box is the lastest and
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
Re VAX vs. IBM:
I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the
engineering side of the fight
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
Re RISC vs. 68K:
Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They
just need to check the dates.
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in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
the place that 43xx had the most
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene Miya) writes:
No, the most difficult competition was and is against the IBM PC.
If it did so well, we'd see more evidence of it being
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Morten Reistad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, log structured file systems, the jfs and contributions to efs3,
and huge improvements to the irq and dma routing;
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another article on the same theme:
Leopard and Vista: Last Gasp of the Big OS?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/133276
from above:
Twenty years from now a new
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes:
... and thereby put the wait light out[1]. Having been brought up with
DOS (the original DOS), and, generally, S/360 Model 30s, I was used to
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
Which is the end of the story, boys and girls. For, while so many
people focus on how the PC has damaged the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Brick) writes:
http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/20/usenix_07_opening_keynote/
the new, 40yr old theme, curtesy of the science center
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#66 Off Topic But Concept should be Known
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is fascinating history, Lynn. I remember using the Prepare command in
channel programs for the 2701 that we used in the TUCC
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lurndal) writes:
Sure there are. Start with WindRiver. Then progress to MCP/AS, z/OS,
Exec/1100 and so forth. The whole world isn't
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When? I never considered IBM world and its batch environment
timesharing. Timesharing does not do large data processing tasks
well;
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Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
with the advent of PCs ... a lot of the cms personal computing migrated
to PCs ... although the (mainframe) virtual
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for some additional past history
the university i was at was selected to be
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Peter Flass [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, unix is unix (or Linux). The problems come from the basic
design; if you changed the design, it wouldn't be unix.
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IBMsysProg wrote:
From a software architecture standpoint, Multi Regions, Independent
locking (IRLM), Automated Recovery (DBRC), and DASD Logging became the
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Frank McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yup ... As *would* have happened with the PC itself if they'd been
that tight-assed with it. They just didn't *get* the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (IBMsysProg) writes:
Memory.
Over the years the first exploiters of architecture changes to allow more
address spaces, more real memory, and
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The public history of the PC began in August 1981, when IBM first
announced 'The IBM Personal Computer.' . This was The original
PC.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
Key-based solutions exist on mianframe as well as on other systems.
I think it is rather technical, not ethical or
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clem Clarke) writes:
It's a shame, but unless IBM does do a big rethink on this, and allows
small developers some sort of inexpensive or free
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane) writes:
M - seems to be just a warming over of the multi-programming
versus parallel discussion.
With the exception of that last
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I realize that this has probably been asked before, but google didn't
give me an answer. Before I asked my question let me state that I
know that windows
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a couple recent items:
The death of single threaded development
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=519
Google Acquires Multicore Programming Startup PeakStream --
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes:
At times like this I sorely miss my long lost APPN Formats and Protocols
bible. I believe official sources claim that
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Schmidt) writes:
It seems to me that only a few years ago (and probably in many of the
hundreds of recycled I remember when... threads lately) we were, as
a
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Smrcina) writes:
If I understand what your asking there are products on the market that
can do this today.
As long as there is a 3270 on
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#26 Is Parallel Programming Just Too
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes:
Depending on one's definition of parallel programming, we have been
doing to various degrees since before they started
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Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
long ago and far away, this was one of the battles getting the
compareswap instruction into 370 architecture. testset
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Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, in the sense that C was pretty close to the assembler for
the machine UNIX was first developed on.
It would have been
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Much of this is due to the reliance on null-terminated strings, which
are not peculiar to C, but are rooted in the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris) writes:
I never actually met a processor with the (mythical?) APL assist
feature. However, I did write mountains of APL
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Dont forget APL Shared Variables.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#67 Non-Standard Mainframe
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
The were also assists for OS/VS1 and MVS/SE, to say nothing of the
infamous ECPS:VSE.
re:
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me too
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
Back in the seventies I was in charge of the systems group at a
service bureau. One of our customers was from a
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
I started with 3330's.
And, I remember when STK (STC) showed us their first ICEBERG, and the
size of the device was that
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't remember any 3350 problems as this device type was my first
performance charge with doing internal pathing/volume placement
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IBM 3880 - 1 or 2 (IBM DASD and Control Units Facts Folder G520-3075-2)
old email with reference to finding bug in the 3350 support in
3880 controller (and
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) writes:
I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for
high-availability and business continuance associated with this
migration. Probably
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes:
I'd also like to see that with politics, but politician's pay is
power, and that cannot be deferred.But it is more important for a
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another migration from the mainframe
as an aside ... all the
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What is 'OCO' ?
Thanks
there were several OCO-wars threads/discussion on vmshare. it was
somewhat more of an issue in vm culture ...
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Steve Samson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would regard SP as the inside job, designing, writing, testing,
and integrating code to accomplish some well-defined
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Zelden) writes:
Today, I see these two used interchangeably. I've even seen title changes
from one to the other in the same shop when HR
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) writes:
I went the other way in the Army, finding myself in a tropical
climate where the main diet was rice, with a few
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes:
John,
I agree with you on this issue ... somewhat.
I was in the Army (over in Germany) and our base was a 'stepping
stone for generals. They
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Saul Babonas) writes:
Please colleagues, allow my to clarify by stating :
SET FAVORITEEXPLETIVE=''
1. I do not believe other platforms are
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Jaffe) writes:
I agree that part of what I wrote is misleading because I was thinking
about processor resource contention analysis when
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz, Barry A) writes:
Internet is only a reasonable approach when companies are willing to
provide the same level of quality control over
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Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A lot of our smarts is in seeing patterns, simplifying what we are
looking for. Occasionally this kind of shortcut
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane) writes:
Which of course made the whole thing too complex. Maybe we need to make
it simpler ...
other posts in this thread:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) writes:
That increased instruction set allows for vastly increased capability,
in spite of the perceived complexity. Simple
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) writes:
3880-xx Controller series followed by the 3990-xxx series
DASD was 3380-D, 3380-E, 3380-J, 3380-K, 3390-1, 3390-2,
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Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A bit off topic: I find your input to these threads in general to be
quite useful. They appear to take a fair amount
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minor addenda ... to previous
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That makes sense. But continuing that thought, I see Apple, which
doesn't try to make its OS be all things for all
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That makes sense. But continuing that thought, I see Apple, which
doesn't try to make its OS be all things for all people
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clem Clarke) writes:
In PCP, MFT and MVT, SVC 99 didn't even exist! Nor TSO.
just for laughs here is the (Hercules) build install procedure for
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Schmidt) writes:
I once heard a former CIA spook say that any POS system can be hacked
from a truck parked at the curb, if the price/value is right.
(Speaking
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I remember with great fondness working with VS/Pascal when on contract
to IBM working on VM and MVS implementation of TCPIP.
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friendly C macros to Declare and use C Strings.
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