I've successfully used gnumail on the mac, but that was a release or two back,
and I'm only using snow leopard, so no clue if it works on the latest os
version or not. It worked pretty well when I tried it though.
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Usually, if you have voiceover turned on, it will start talking when the
machine reboots. However, if it doesn't do this, you'll need to go into your
account settings, and check the box that says use voiceover on login screen.
If you want to have it log you in automatically, and there's only
Interface builder is commandline driven? When did this happen?
Last time I used (or tried to) interface builder, you had to select the items
you wanted from one side of the screen, and drop them in the other side to
quote build unquote your interface. It's nice in that it builds all the
As far as developing apps goes, Apple's Xtools just aren't there. It's gotten
better as versions of Xcode has gone up, but last time I checked, (and that was
a few releases back) it still wasn't possible to build an app from scratch
using apple's tools if you wanted to have a gui with the app.
does one obtain said NFBTrans? if it's been said in the thread, please
know that I haven't been following closely.
Ben
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 17:47
Subject: Re
Dvd remaster (as already mentioned works nicely, and I still use mac the ripper
for my dvd copying, and it still works for me. Of course, I'm still using 10.6
snow leopard, so your mileage may vary.
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This depends on how much work you want to do when formatting your output.
nfbtrans does what I need quite nicely, and I've never used anything else for
my braille translation needs, and I've used it on dos, linux, osx, and even
compiled a version for bsd (although I never used it).
It's not as
Not the root of finder, just your home folder is where it should go.
And, yes, you can have up to 10 connections active at any given time.
I typically have 2 or 3 open at any given time, but rarely more than that.
On Apr 7, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Ian McNamara wrote:
Have got it so will take a look.
I'm not sure what you mean by audio triggers, but at the moment, muddle is
purely a terminal app, and since it's cross platform,, it does not handle any
kind of audio support. It's easy enough to add it for any given platform (I
had speech support separate from voiceover built-in at one point,
I use a program called muddle. I snatched it from a copy of mordor mud several
years ago, and it's what I've used every since.
I have a copy of it on my softcon mac pages at
http://www.softcon.com/mac/
It's a terminal app, but it has triggers, macro expansion, and of course mud
connect info.
If all else fails, use the terminal to remove it. open terminal, cd
~/Library/preferencepanes
then find the nosleep.prefpane file, and just rm the file.
That'll fix it up nicely. (of course, rm may not work if the file is being
used, in which case you'd need to take it out of the list of
I've had this happen. I don't remember how I solved it, but check the mailbox
settings, and see if it has the various mailboxes setup to put things into. I
did fix it, so it's something fixable from the mail app, because I don't
remember having to do anything out of the ordinary to solve it.
I don't think mp3 is the only format that works, just the most popular. I have
code for a game I found that uses ogg files too, and I'm pretty sure I've seen
wav files as well. I've of course never gone and looked up the appropriate
sections on the w3c, but if you were interested, it
Anyone here able to help me out here?
I normally do my editing with quicktime pro, and usually, that's enough.
However, I currently have a file that has all kinds of background noise (mostly
air conditioners/heaters, and (probably) water fountains kicking on and off
during the whole
The click to flash extension works wonders, and the best part is that your
machine doesn't automatically begin playing those irritating flash videos every
time you open one of those sites that has one. The html5 videos still play,
but since flash outranks html5 by a long shot, I'm ok with
No, no, no, no.
Do not change permissions on files you do not know who they belong to.
It's likely her problem is/was that she simply gave ownership of her home
folder/documents folder to another user on her machine (since a reinstall
didn't fix the problem)
Performing an ls -l in the home
I just go to the search bar in safari, and type something like
How far is it from Harrisburg pennsylvania to pitsburgh pensylvania, and google
kindly pops up with several search results, usually at least the first 3 or 4
have the information I want, I don't even have to click on the links it
Permissions on data files should be 644, not 755. Trying to execute a data
file will just cause grief.
If it's a program, then 755 permissions are ok (assuming you want others on
your machine to be able to read and execute the file) This is most often the
case. 644 is the permissions you want
I don't know if it's available in other places, but I kind of liked the rdio
client. I can't see paying $10 a month to stream music though, so these kind
of streaming services don't appeal to me, but the client is accessible, and the
paid service was nice (I used the 30-day trial). The only
Heh, shows how much I know. I'd just assumed that the apple tv's already ran
some sort of osx release, whether a full release or specially adapted for the
tv box, I'd just assumed apple would put osx on it to make it work. Hmmm.
Well, I'm off to read the article, to see if they tell me
, to hunt down a
couple apple tvs.
On Feb 22, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Heh, shows how much I know. I'd just assumed that the apple tv's already ran
some sort of osx release, whether a full release or specially adapted for the
tv box, I'd just assumed apple would put osx
This depends on how much work you want to do yourself. It's of course
perfectly possible to build a site from scratch, and code everything yourself.
It's also a whole lot easier to use a package like jumla, wordpress, buddy
press, dolphin, or drupal to do it for you. There are issues with
I don't know of any offhand, but there is a service run by amazon (I think)
that used to be called mturks, then changed name to vworkers (if I remember
correctly) then changed names again, and I loose the thread at that point. I
can't recall what it's currently called, but basically, it allows
When you plug in an ethernet cable, the mac does automatically switch to using
ethernet (assuming it's not been changed from the defaults to do so)
It's easy enough to find out though, just open system preferences, select
network, then look at the various connection types listed in the services
You can use just about any sound editing app for this. I know quicktime pro
works, because I've done this exact thing.
Simply highlight each file (command-a to select the whole file) switch to the
main window (or whatever one has the combined book you're working on) paste it
in, move to end of
Whether it's a bunch of people trying to put a class action suit on apple or
not is immaterial. I'm sorry, but when you spend as much money on a phone as
the Iphone costs, you really don't expect it to bend, regardless of whether
it's in your back pocket, front pocket, side pocket, or no
No need to terminate your screen session, just hit ctrl-d, and it will suspend
screen. close terminal, reopen it, then tyep screen -a (I think it's an a) and
it will reattach to your current screen session. Then you can continue as
before.
(this assums of course, that the screen you mentioned
can
sort something out which can help these difficulties.
It would be nice if for once Google was proactive in its accessibility
testing rather than reacting to the problems which so called updates create.
David Griffith
On 31/01/2015 16:17, Travis Siegel wrote:
Oh, this is normal, it's
Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser code
most osx browsers use to render their content).
When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just fine.
Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to use tables
instead.
I don't know if it will allow you to import books or not, but the librivox app
allows you to adjust speed as well as other things, just like the audible app.
I've never tried importing files to it, but if you can, it might be worth a
look.
And, just for reference, all librivox recordings are
If your connection to the internet is via dial-up, safari isn't the program you
should be using to fix connection issues.
You need to get into network options, and configure from there (though I've
never done a dial-up connection on OSX, so can't help with the specifics at
that point, but
I don't know if it works on newer versions of osx, I don't have any to test,
but the softcon audio burn app can do this, and you can find it at the softcon
mac pages.
http://www.softcon.com/mac/
If it doesn't work, even though you said you don't want to do it with itunes,
I'm fairly certain it
As long as you're only wanting to do basic editing (cutting and pasting, as
well as converting to other formats, quicktime pro will do what you want.
(quicktime that comes with osx won't edit, it only plays, it's 30 bucks or
thereabouts, but it works well, and I've used it on a number of
The keystroke is control-command-a, not just command-a.
hth.
On Jan 1, 2015, at 8:23 AM, April Brown wrote:
How do I get VoiceOver to read Libre Office Documents?
Or even Mail, Pdf's Pages, text edit etc?
CMD A does not read or beep.
Two finger swipe up or down does not read anything
Libreoffice is an interesting program. It devides each and every paragraph
into a new voiceover group. It's possible to use it to write documents, but I
usually build my documents in text edit, then if I need more complicated/fancy
saving options, I'll open the document in libreoffice, then
Oh well, you got it sorted, but I have a problem I can't fix. The stupid auto
correction is preventing me from searching for vista os on tiger direct,
because even though it says vista os when I press enter or search, it
automatically changes it to vista is, and of course tiger doesn't know
On Jan 3, 2015, at 12:55 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
How about control option a?
Hah, yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry for the slip up there.
On 3 Jan 2015, at 17:19, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
The keystroke is control-command-a, not just command-a.
hth.
On Jan 1
I already addressed this in the second email I sent to the list on this topic.
You can't sim-link to a file that is already present, you'll need to rename the
original file first, then you can sim-link the newer version to the makeinfo
filename.
I've never used homebrew, but if it doesn't
What it's telling you is that although you have a makeinfo program, the one you
have isn't new enough. To solve this problem, you'll probably need to go
download the source to makeinfo, and compile your own version (or if you're
suicidal enough) install macports, and use that to try to find
It looks like the latest version of texinfo is 5.2.
You can find it at:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo/texinfo-5.2.tar.gz
After it's downloaded, open terminal, switch to the folder where it's located
(I have a source folder in my home folder, and I copy things into that folder
in their own
One more caveat. Since the make install puts the makeinfo program in the
/usr/local/bin, it will be overridden by the one in the /usr/bin folder, so
you'll need to either rename the one in the /usr/bin folder with a command such
as:
sudo mv /usr/bin/makeinfo /usr/bin/makeinfo.orig
or simply
a protected file and certainly will not transfer via BT from one
Nokia phone to another.
Eleanor who loves her Mac even more now! Thanks Travis
On 22 Dec 2014, at 23:48, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
The nokea phones have bluetooth, so if your mac has bluetooth, just turn
mobile phone
but remain disappointed that the Mac does not see the memory card in my phone
when I plug the phone in to the Mac via USB. No problem of course on other
platforms where the memory card is picked up as another drive.
Eleanor
On 22 Dec 2014, at 23:48, Travis Siegel tsie
The nokea phones have bluetooth, so if your mac has bluetooth, just turn it on,
then use the bluetooth file transfer program in your utilities folder, and you
can move files back and forth all you like. It's quick, easy, and free.
If your mac doesn't have bluetooth, then things get way more
I'm assuming you're talking about moving active windows around the screen.
Honestly, I've found very little use for this feature, but I'm glad vo supports
it, it does help when you have several windows open, and they are overlapping
enough that sighted folks can't tell where the active cursor
Nearly any osx compatible editor can do this, including quicktime. Just load
the two files, ctrl-a to highlight the whole thing, then paste it in at the end
of the other one. Export it to the format of your choice, and you're all done.
Sometimes, you need to export in another format (if you
Just add leading zeros to the file names, and all will be well.
Failing that, if you just wish to burn a cd with the files, then use something
like the softcon audio burn program, it allows you to add your files in any
order regardless of their location on the hd, or their file names.
It's on
just press enter on it, and you can rename it to anything you like. Press
enter again when you're done.
That's all there is to it. That's also why it so often gets renamed
accidentally.
shrug
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The finder sorts alphabetically. The problem comes when numbers are involved.
The finder doesn't know (or care) that the number 12 is larger than the number
4, all it knows, is that 1 comes before 4, so it will happily put 10, 11, 12,
13, and so on before it puts 2, 3, 4 and so on. The way
http://www.softcon.com/mac
will have links to various items, one page of which is games for mac users.
Most of them are terminal mode games I've ported from linux, but there is a
yahtzee game there that is completely accessible, that was taken from an apple
developer sample project, and turned
There's two braille translations that have been ported to the mac. Neither one
is as automatic as what you're used to on windows, though it would probably be
possible to make one of them do so if someone wanted to take the time to code
rtf tag recognition into them). Nfbtrans, which is
it?
Eleanor
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To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: braille translator for the mac
There's two braille translations that have been ported to the mac
Ok, update and correction.
I have updated the softcon mac unix page to show the version of nfbtrans I
compiled for use on osx. Unfortunately, my ppc machine died on me earlier this
year, so it's not ppc compatible, though the source should compile cleanly for
anyone using a ppc mac), and it
Assuming the file is actually posted on the web page, a right click (or
vo-shift-m) will give you the option to download the file. If it's in one of
those players that don't allow you to see the file, that's a different story,
but, yes, audio hijack will definitely record the file for you w/o
You can browse the other country's stores (for some reason, for a time, my
itunes account was set to some country in Europe (no idea how it got set that
way). I was able to see everything they had on offer, including things the us
store didn't have, but I wasn't allowed to purchase any of it.
You know, this is one thing (not just on this list, but everywhere)
where folks get ribbed because they upgrade, then have issues. Yet,
if anyone mentions that they're not running the latest release (such
as I've done on a number of occasions) because of issues with that
release, you get
Actually, you can use just about anything to perform your transfer,
ftp, telnet, rsh, ssh, any thing that allows a connection between
machines. Remember, unix oses are 1, process based, and 2, socket
based. This means, you can tie commands together using the vertical
(|) character, and
witch has been a verry
reliable phone.
So are you not in a hurry to up date to a 5 or 6 model.
I can only buy a 4S 8 gig brand new from Telstra so I was worried
people saying the up dates can take up room so I hope it would be
big enough.
Cheers Michael.
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and drop not copy and paste unless
things have changed. Iv'e mewrged
On Sep 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com
wrote:
Quicktime can cut and paste multiple recordings, I do it all the
time.
Simply have two windows open, highlight the section of the second
recording
,
Can you please tell us how you select portions of audio in
Quicktime, both audio and Video if possible?
Thank you.
Hatch.
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To: OS X iOS Accessibility
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: Audio recorder for Mac OS
I still use an IPhone 4S. I'm still using version 6.113, only because
I didn't wish to get caught up in the vo navigation issues loads of
folks were reporting when they upgraded to version 7.1. My
understanding now though, is that those are fixed. I've been told
that the 4S can handle
equivalent for the Windows Del command? I need to
delete a group of files from a root-only access folder.
Many thanks.
On 21 Sep 2014, at 20:59, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
You can get root access by using the sudo command. Normally, you'd
simply run a single command using sudo
Quicktime can cut and paste multiple recordings, I do it all the time.
Simply have two windows open, highlight the section of the second
recording you'd like inserted into the first one, switch to the first
recording, move to the place you want the second piece to go, and
paste with
You can get root access by using the sudo command. Normally, you'd
simply run a single command using sudo and it would run as root,
however, a command like
sudo /bin/bash
will get you a root shell, and you need only use your own password to
make it happen (assuming you're an admin on the
Voiceover works just fine in the terminal app that comes with osx.
You can use text edit to write your code, just be sure to do a command-
shift-t first to convert your document to plain text, or else it will
be in rtf, and that won't work on the ruby interpreter.
The simplest thing though, is
Root is not generally the way you want to run commands. It is
possible to remove the entire contents of your hd as root, and with no
prompting whatsoever. You really shouldn't do anything as root unless
it's absolutely necessary. Running the command rm -r * will remove
all files in the
I don't have 10.9, but taco does have a free 30-day trial, so you can
download it and give it a try yourself. Based on how accessible it
is, I'd wager it'll work just fine, but nothing lost by trying it out.
http://www.tacosw.com
hth
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The only thing I've noticed that affects whether or not I can navigate
tables as rows/columns is how the table is defined in the html code.
If it's truly a table (using table and /table tags, it seems to
work just fine, and it doesn't matter if it has th/th tags or not
for table headers.
I'd not worry about it.
Some devices do this.
They reconnect after being disconnected. If it's a storage device of
some sort, this sometimes can cause errors on the file system, but
usually doesn't. In the case of devices that are not storage related
such as displays, keyboards, and mice,
Depending on what you're after, terminal can do this for you quite
nicely.
Open terminal, and then change to the folder you'd like to have the
list of files created in.
Next, type a simple ls -1 and you'll get a list of all files in that
folder.
If you want it to show hidden files as well,
To redirect to a file, you use the greater than symbol before the
filename I.E.
lsout.txt
The vertical bar | is used to string commands together.
I.E.
ls|grep zip
will first list all the files, then pipe the output to the grep
command, which will then check all the file names for zip, and
No real command list, but you can get a partial listing by doing:
ls /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin
Not all of the files that show up in those folders are ones you can
use outright, but most of them are. To get a listing of information
about any particular command, you can use the man
If you just want to share a folder on one partition to a folder on
another partition, (or a single file) you might be out of luck.
However, it's common practice on unix systems to mount several
partitions into various places in the file system which of course
makes those files available to
Anne (as always) offers excellent points on the ibook files. However,
I have found that it's possible to simply use the unzip program (in
terminal) to uncompress the ibook files. They are indeed simply epub
books, but as with any other epub formatted ebooks, if they are
encrypted, (and
The softcon news reader is a 100% accessible news reader, and it's free.
It's on the softcon mac pages at:
http://www.softcon.com/mac/
(I do not have a mac capable of running the latest osx, so it's not
been tested on 10.6+, but I've gotten reports it works).
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Has anyone here tried the oyster books app? The service is 9.95 a
month, and provides access to their entire catalog (currently over
500,000 books). The only problem is, it requires ios 7, which I have
not upgraded to, because there are still vo issues, and I do not wish
to deal with such
As mentioned before, search the list archives. I posted a message
here a couple years ago (in the leopard days) with a configuration
that makes vo work better with terminal. It's largely a matter of
changing the cursor type, and changing things to track that new type
of cursor. It's
The device I mentioned in a previous post is actually sold on Amazon
(not ebay as I'd thought) and itcan be had for less than 5 bucks (us)
It is a usb device with both earphone and microphone plugs on it, and
it's as small as it can be and still fit the items on a single
device. It simply
I use nfbtrans all the time under osx. I have no idea why your file
would be blank. Whatt command line are you using to run it?
I'm sure getting it working won't be a major issue.
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The serial converter usually creates it's own device. You'll need to
look in the documentation to see what the device is called, but it's
probably something like /dev/cuadevice.tty with device being the name
of the usb converter product.
Then, it's simple enough to echo to the device or
quicktime and a cable with 1/8 plug on both ends works just fine.
Plug one end into your cassette player, the other end into your
microphone on your mac (if your mac doesn't have one like the older
ppc macs, then ebay has 6 dollar usb earphone jack/microphone jack
combos) start quicktime,
It depends on the software used to produce the daisy book, but in
general, as long as the book isn't encrypted, you can play the mp3
files in any mp3 player. Of course, you loose the functionality of
the daisy format in this case, but if you're just looking to get at
the content, without
I don't know about newer versions of osx, but it used to be, that with
quicktime (I don't think it was a pro only option) you could simply
open the smil file for the daisy book in question, and quicktime would
handle the book just fine. This assumes of course, there's no
encryption to
Seriously folks.
When you forward an email, mail (by default) includes all the
headers. This is so that if you're forwarding to an admin or
something, and your problem is something to do with the message path,
the admin will have all the info they need to track down the problem.
It only
Yet another reason I refuse to update to ios 7. I'm still running
6.1.13, and will continue doing so until ios 7 works as well for
everyone as 6 does for me now.
I don't see that happening any time soon, so I guess I'll be on 6 for
quite a while.
Yes, some apps don't work, because they
And, just for reference, anyone who purchased take control books from
me, the urls I gave you to download your books are still valid. I
don't know if I have the original emails anymore, but if anyone who
did purchase from me asks, I'll pass your details on to Gordon so you
can get a shelf
I don't use spotify. I don't remember why, but I had trouble with it
when I tried to use it, though it may be user-id creation related or
something, I honestly don't remember. I do have it on my phone, so
apparently it was accessible enough to get it started, but there was
something
There is a news reader on the softcon pages
http://www.softcon.com/mac/
It's called a news reader, but it's not for newsgroups, it's an rss
reader, and last time I used it on snowleopard (I have regular leopard
here) it worked really well. It works on leopard too, but not as well
as it did
Wordpress is free. It doesn't get any cheaper than that.
Wordpress isn't what costs money, it's the hosting/domain name
registration that costs.
There's several places that offer hosting services, many of which
offer wordpress as well, so check around before committing to a
service. Also,
Then, you should download your audio books from audible instead,
that's where Itunes gets it's books anyway (or at least used to be)
and they don't have any restrictions on how long they keep your books
for you. You can download them whenever you like. There's still a
book I purchased in
One way to control sound is to pipe the audio through audio hijack. I
regularly use audio hijack from Rogue Amoeba to provide me mute
capabilities on apps that otherwise don't have them. For instance,
although the mlb.com does have mute capabilities, I much prefer to use
the one provided
Ellen, it might be easier for you to navigate the pages if you
activate groups mode. In groups mode, vo combines web features into a
single group, which get read all at once, so there's considerably less
keypressing needed tonavigate your documents. I never use anything
else. Most folks
Actually, it isn't necessary to install Xcode, though it does give you
dashboard which organizes the plist files nicely, and let's you see
what goes where.
These plist files are plain text files. Simply open them in text edit
or something similar, and edit away. Just be sure not to
You're getting stuck in the status bar area of the screen, (all the
way on the very top of the screen) I have experienced this too, and
indeed, in hanging with friends, it happens nearly every time I watch
someone guess my word. The simple solution is just to touch somewhere
on the screen
I just download the braille file, and use the nfb translator to
backtranslate to ascii text. I then load it into text edit, and save
as file format of my choice. Sometimes, cleanup is necessary (such as
replacing 60 with exclamation point and quote, but generally the
errors aren't enough
On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:
Hey wait a minute… Is this NFB thing free?
Yah, and you can download it from my softcon mac pages at
http://www.softcon.com/mac/
hth.
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There's a post I made to the list a couple years ago with
configurations that made vo work better for most terminal apps. I'm
sure if you search the archives, you can find it easy enough. Esther
has reposted it before when this topic came up, so it should be in a
few posts.
I don't have
I'm not sure what you're asking here.
The terminal program that comes with osx works just fine, Iuse it
nearly every day.
What specifically are you having trouble doing? Perhaps there's
something that could be done to make your usability better.
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The programs I use are mac the ripper (http://mactheripper.en.softonic.com/mac
) for ripping dvds, though I don't use the latest version of osx, so
haven't had to fiddle with updating via the forums.
And for extracting content (and moving to other formats) I use dvd
remaster
I'm an oddball, I don't really like graphical interfaces when it comes
to archivers. Guess it's a hold over from my dos days.
I have rar, arj, zip, gzip, and even several older ones like arc, zoo,
lha, lzh and more. I'm somewhat of a packrat, and am always adding to
my collection of
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