You might be surprised at how big the market would be.
Randy
On 23/07/2013 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
That would be for a very limited market.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
On 23/07/2013 1:51 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
In the Murray incident,
I was thinking more along the lines of an ability to program the box to
tell the govt that all was well - the seat belts were fastened with care
and the speed limits were being obeyed.
Sort of like the aftermarket O2 sensors that tell the car computer all
is within specs, often used on hot rod
I wont own a car with one.
-Rolf
On 7/23/2013 4:28 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
You might be surprised at how big the market would be.
Randy
On 23/07/2013 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
That would be for a very limited market.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell
However, if you have nothing to hide, it might well save you from
allegations of wrong doing.
Randy
On 23/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rolf wrote:
I wont own a car with one.
-Rolf
On 7/23/2013 4:28 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
You might be surprised at how big the market would be.
Randy
On 23/07/2013
This is why my new car is from 1985.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
However, if you have nothing to hide, it might well save you from
allegations of wrong doing.
Randy
On 23/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rolf wrote:
I wont own a car with one.
-Rolf
On
If there were a way to ensure that the data were only made available in
a crash investigation I would not really oppose it. There is something
of a public good served in being able to show that a person was
driving negligently and caused an accident, thus making him more likely
to be held
If you own a car made in this century, you probably already own a car with a
black box. They have been around a while.
http://www.crashdataservices.net/Vehicles.html
http://www.crashforensics.com/files/CDRVehicleList.pdf
It is interesting that GM was one of the first to use
CDR devices and
Someone else on this list has offered that a 9 volt battery can help find
the problem; connect negative to ground and positive to your suspect wire, and
use a volt meter to find out where the problem lies.
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
Bob Rentfro
Bingo!
It did not work after I installed the new electrical portion of the
ignition switch. The new switch was comparable the original I'd say. The
more I think about it, I think it's the wire from the ignition switch to
the solenoid.
Bob R
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DAHIK - could have been anything! Sheesh, how embarassing.
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Don't ask how I know.
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Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start. Nothing happens when key is turned. When I turn the key
on and try to start it using the big old screwdriver, it just spins the
On 05/04/2013 10:09 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start. Nothing happens when key is turned. When I turn the key
on and try to start it using the big
Starter is not engaging but only when using big screwdriver. Key does
nothing. Guess I will get the light out tomorrow and check stuff out. I
hate electrical crap. Ironic, huh.
Bob R
On Apr 5, 2013 8:23 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
On 05/04/2013 10:09 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
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Starter is not engaging but only when using big screwdriver. Key does
nothing. Guess I
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Starter is not engaging but only when using big screwdriver. Key does
nothing
for the car not starting when the starter spins.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:30:09 -0700
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Starter is not engaging but only when
Automatic transmission? Neutral safety switch! Might also be loose/missing
shift rod bushings.
--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and
It's a manual.
Bob R
On Apr 5, 2013 10:48 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Automatic transmission? Neutral safety switch! Might also be
loose/missing shift rod bushings.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a safety switch that requires you to depress the clutch to
start it?
Randy
On 05/04/2013 1:25 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
It's a manual.
Bob R
On Apr 5, 2013 10:48 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Automatic transmission? Neutral safety switch! Might also be
: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] No Start, 240D
Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start. Nothing happens when key is turned. When I turn the key
on and try
Sounds like you are not getting the right terminals with the screwdriver.
You need the big top one and the little o e to engage the motor and
solenoid. If you just cross the big two only the starter motor will spin.
Mike
On Apr 5, 2013 2:25 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a
The first thing I'm checking when I get home is to put a light on the small
wire going from the ignition switch to the solenoid and see if that lights
up when someone turns they key for me.
Bob R
On Apr 5, 2013 3:24 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like you are not getting
: [MBZ] No Start, 240D
Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start. Nothing happens when key is turned. When I turn the key
on and try to start it using the big old screwdriver
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:19:41 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
Everything works electrically. The starter spins, the engine does not.
The starter spins only when I jump across the terminals with a
screwdriver. Turning the key does nothing... but all the dash lights
come on correctly.
Not on an 80.
Is there a safety switch that requires you to depress the clutch to start it?
Randy
On 05/04/2013 1:25 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
It's a manual.
Bob R
On Apr 5, 2013 10:48 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Automatic transmission? Neutral safety switch! Might
Which of the terminals on the starter/solenoid are you jumping with
the screwdriver?
If it's the two big bolts with the heavy wires on them then the only
thing that will happen is that the starter will turn. Just what is
happening.
If you are jumping the big wire coming into the solenoid to
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:09:19 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] No Start, 240D
Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start. Nothing happens when key
Assuming the soleoid works, this is the senario that first cinspired us to
wire a door bell button to start the '81 240D. Bad ignition switch, but
easier to wire around that to fix it. The kids loved it, and eventually
threw a fit when I announced I was going to replace the ignition switch
after
work.
Manfred
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:09:19 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] No Start, 240D
Over the last 4 months, I have replaced the following:
Ignition switch (electrical and mechanical portions)
Starter
Voltage regulator
Cables
Car will not start
The 14 tires are going way up in price. Either I pay $300-500 each or go
with the lower S rated rubber. All so I can keep the car original. I am sure
the hoopty wheels with 235 55 17 rubber bands will make the car drive like
feces.
clay
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D
less rubber and more rim sales for the tire shops. Most of the old cars with
donut tires are headed to the junk yard to be crushed and our classic cars
get expensive tires as an idiot tax for having old cars. New cars are plastic
and disposable. The Al Gore movement to keep the economy
Long ago it was a speed rating, but is now used more for structural needs of a
tire to meet usage requirements. Too many people were getting hung up on the
speed part and allow cars to be undershod because buyers were buying a lesser
tire for lower cash, thinking they did not drive all that
A coupla years ago I got a set of tires for the 300SD at Costco, the guy
there was very knowledgeable, made me sign a waiver because the tires he
had did not meet the rating for the car, which he said was due more to
weight than speed -- the Hun had specified that rating to support
vigorous
It depends
Near me the local street crews are putting in traffic calming islands instead
of fixing up the pot holes that will become much larger in coming months. I
guess pretty obstacles are better than safe roads. Added to this, main streets
are being torn up two years after being repaved,
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes:
Near me the local street crews are putting in traffic calming islands
Happening here too, it is almost impossible to get from point A to
point B without negotiating a variety of obstacles and
impediments... you'd amost think the city council didn't like
On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
I am wondering when the rubber band tar fad will go away.
It won't.
I have Michelin Destiny tires on the kids car and Kumho Solus on the coupe.
Happy with both.
Rick
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On Oct 15, 2012 11:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
I am wondering when the rubber
band tar fad will go away.
It won't.
Why not? It's primarily a matter of styling. The practical benefits (room
for bigger
On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am wondering when the rubber
band tar fad will go away.
It won't.
Why not?
Profitability. My guess is bigger tires = more profit.
Rick
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On Oct 16, 2012 10:32 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Oct 16, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am wondering when the rubber
band tar fad will go away.
It won't.
Why not?
Profitability. My guess is
bigger tires = more profit.
On Oct 15, 2012 11:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
I am wondering when the rubber
band tar fad will go away.
It won't.
Why not? It's primarily a matter of styling. The practical benefits (room
for
Original interior with messed up console. A poor upgrade to the radio
resulted in chopped opening that needs fix. Might have to replace the whole
thing though, as the paint is chipping on the console.
Carpet and package shelf were cleaned up when I got her. Had to remove it all
when I did
Speed is not really the issue, it is the weight of the car that requires sturdy
sidewalls, which a V rated tire has.
clay
On Oct 15, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are
available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember
On 16/10/2012 3:33 PM, clay monroe wrote:
Original interior with messed up console. A poor upgrade to the radio
resulted in chopped opening that needs fix. Might have to replace the whole thing
though, as the paint is chipping on the console.
Carpet and package shelf were cleaned up when I
I thought the rubber band tars had lower un-sprung weight, which improves grip.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 15, 2012 11:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:26:15 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
I thought the rubber band tars had lower un-sprung weight, which
improves grip.
Lower un-sprung weight does improve grip and handling, but lower profile
tires mean larger wheels. It depends on which, tires or
Pray tell what is the meaning of the V rating by definition?
Speed is not really the issue, it is the weight of the car that
requires sturdy sidewalls, which a V rated tire has.
clay
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:26:15 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
I thought the rubber band tars had lower un-sprung weight, which
improves grip.
Lower un-sprung weight does improve grip and handling, but lower
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes:
If we ever hope to pay off our debt, roads will suffer more.
Spending on roads is not why we are in debt; cutting spending on roads
will not get us out of debt.
--
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Different issue but how is the interior? Seats?
Randy
On 12/10/2012 5:25 PM, clay monroe wrote:
That is a possibility.
I put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for winter
storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again. Tossed the car cover on
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires are
available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed rating.
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On Oct 12, 2012, at 18:25, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
That
IIRC, either the Michelin primacy mxv4 or the Michelin pilot tires
are available to fit the 123.133's. I don't remember about the speed
rating.
--
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I think that is the problem. the 107 supposedly goes faster. Not
Its hard to get decent 14 tires, especially V rated, especially in the
wider 205/70 size.
I bought a set of Vredestein Sprint Classics for my 450SLC 5.0 a while
back, but they were over $200 each. But I wanted something special for
that car and they were much cheaper than the Michelin XWXs the
Its hard to get decent 14 tires, especially V rated, especially in the
wider 205/70 size.
I bought a set of Vredestein Sprint Classics for my 450SLC 5.0 a while
back, but they were over $200 each. But I wanted something special for
that car and they were much cheaper than the Michelin XWXs
Is it running really rich?
Your fuel loss or consumpton and the black oil makes me wonder if it
is dumping way too much fuel into the engine.
Randy
On 10/10/2012 6:59 PM, clay monroe wrote:
One would think, but I have been keeping an eye on the thing looking for leaks
and drips while on
That is a possibility.
I put the hard top back on last night and tried to drive her to the garage for
winter storage. She would not catch. Fuel is not flowing again. Tossed the
car cover on for now. Will be sending her to the indy next spring for a full
tune up and resolution of these
I was thinking this too, Randy... especially with a D-jet car. Its
interesting how a car can run with way too much fuel.
Maybe just a stuck cold start valve? Could be lots of other things too...
The issue is that its dangerous for the engine. Gas in the oil can ruin an
engine pretty fast if
Used be able to central lock, but now I have to lock each opening.
Well, then fix that! You now have motivation to do so, right? :-)
The fuel lock is only vacuum-operated.
-- Jim
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It would be a good winter project, but she is getting put away for the rainy
season. Locked away in a garage for five months. WIll give me time to gather
the connectors and tubing so any broken parts are immediately dealt with
clay
On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Used be
On Oct 9, 2012 9:26 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
The odd thing is that a full tank, with 2 miles on it has lost 0.25 of
the volume.
My 123 gauge is usually incorrect for the top 10% of the level. It isn't
always right or wrong in the same way, I assume there is some dirt or dead
You lost a quarter of a tank? Massive fuel leak somewhere?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Will have to figure this one out.
Got her to light off and ran her on the road for a few miles to see if
I could burp the system of air. Idle was
Pulled the dipstick yet?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
You lost a quarter
One would think, but I have been keeping an eye on the thing looking for leaks
and drips while on the creeper for two hours. Stuck a sheet of cardboard under
the car where the fuel lines go to see if there are drips that end up on it. I
am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my
Diesel preferred.
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No start Frosch
You lost a quarter of a tank? Massive fuel leak somewhere?
--
Max
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes:
I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my tank and got 5
gallons of fuel.
I remember when I was a kid, in the '70s energy crisis, that happened to
my parents a couple of times. Park the car at work in the morning with
a full tank, come
I am beginning to suspect that somebody has siphoned my tank and got 5
gallons of fuel
Did you not lock the car? The filler hatch locks with the rest!
-- Jim
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I am sure I have it locked, but vacuum may not be cooperating. Used be able to
central lock, but now I have to lock each opening. Before, I had to run the
motor for a few moments to get enough vac to allow the rest of the car to
unlock.
clay
On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Will have to figure this one out.
Got her to light off and ran her on the road for a few miles to see if I could
burp the system of air. Idle was pretty rough and seemed to be missing. Hot
idle was less rumbly, but I think the miss is still there. Will have to have
indy tune. The odd thing
Fresh fuel precipitated the issue. I have run a number of tanks this season,
but might decide to drain and put fresh tank screens in.
clay
On Oct 7, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
Glad you figured it out, hope your not looking at a fuel tank problem.
--
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Charleston SC
'95
Could you rig a filtering circuit, pump out all the fuel via a filter, routing
the clean discharge back into the tank?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Fresh fuel precipitated the issue. I have run a number of tanks this
season, but might
Glad you figured it out, hope your not looking at a fuel tank problem.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
I had previously ordered a bunch of stuff from Rusty when I got the
car. Fuel filter was not installed at that time, but I figured now
I had previously ordered a bunch of stuff from Rusty when I got the car. Fuel
filter was not installed at that time, but I figured now was a good time to
try. Turned out the filter was wrong. I got the filter for the newer R107.
Did not know that until I hit my indy to let him know of the
As I said earlier, I replaced a temp sender on my Mum's 190E because
it
too was hard to start, hot or cold. Actually I got it to start better
disconnecting the cold start valve, which meant that the valve was
squirting fuel into the motor..
Which reminds me, lo these many years ago, I
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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:46:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D
'Just looked it up. It's behind (well, in front of, really, in relation to
the car) the instrument cluster
Disc 1; Elec. Trouble Shooting; Relays and Control Modules, page 8
Wilton
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From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D
Hey Wilton
Well I foundd that the starter solenoid works so I have a break somewhere
between the started solenoid and the ingnition start switch. Most discussion
on forums relates to the starter lock-out relay module (K38). I have not
found it yet. Next place to check is behind the instrument cluster. Is
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:55:04 -0400 Robert Massmann
rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Most discussion on forums relates to the starter lock-out relay module
(K38). I have not found it yet. Next place to check is behind the
instrument cluster. Is this were it is. There really isn't very much
room
: Robert Massmann rmassm...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D
Well I foundd that the starter solenoid works so I have a break somewhere
between the started solenoid and the ingnition
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 6:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] No Start from my 1995 E300D
Well I foundd that the starter solenoid works so I have a break somewhere
between the started solenoid and the ingnition start switch. Most
discussion on forums relates to the starter lock-out relay module (K38
List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 116 start
relng...@aol.com wrote:
I'd like to see a reference regarding your idea that there was a 1972
116.
Hier dreht sich alles um die Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse der 70er Jahre
(1972-1980
Rusty Cullens wrote:
In Germany only. None were imported here.
That was my original contention tha Woger disputed.
I was going to admit he was right, as I also found it said somewhere that
production began in September 1972 as a 1973 model. Are you saying I was correct
in the first place?
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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 116 start
1972 elsewhere, 1973 here. I once drove way too far to look at three
1972 SEs and SELs. Turned out to be a
W108 long, a W108 short, and a W114. Could have had all three for
$500-600, and
they were basically complete. Unfortunately, I needed W116 parts, and
didn't
have time/space to
relng...@aol.com wrote:
I'd like to see a reference regarding your idea that there was a 1972 116.
Hier dreht sich alles um die Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse der 70er Jahre (1972-1980)
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, 20 Jun 2010 17:59:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Message-ID:
Check with a diesel injection service -- I'm not familiar with
this particular pump, but a failed pressure valve or a worn rotor
will give
Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Mid to late 70's Chevy V8s were terrible about roasting starters.
As
noted, this won't be the case if you have vapor lock in the
injection lines.
I'd lean toward a leak on the suction side of the fuel system. I'm
had to be rebuilt for this reason.
Peter
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From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
Sent: Jun 20, 2010 5:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
The injection pump is a distributor type pump, the same one
: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:12:51 -0500
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
You should also check the current draw on the starter when hot.
When
the windings go bad, they get high resistance, and that excess
resistance goes way up
Mid to late 70's Chevy V8s were terrible about roasting starters. As
noted, this won't be the case if you have vapor lock in the
injection lines.
I'd lean toward a leak on the suction side of the fuel system. I'm
not familiar with that particular engine, does it have a distributor
type
- problem is worse in warm months.
Have I got it right?
-Max
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Steel pipes and car are very good condition with minimal rust
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update
Yes that is correct only the problem started about a year ago. Who is
still looking for rusty lines and leaks
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out)
while
you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel
system
somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper
seals
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line out) while
you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the fuel system
somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper seals in
the delivery valves can
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns
Try bleeding the fuel system at the filter (Top bolt, or line
out) while
you pump the primer. It sounds like air is getting into the
fuel system
somewhere. A leak at the filter can cause a leak. Bad copper
seals in
the delivery valves
One 115 chassis 300D I bought a long time ago was sold with a dis-assembled
engine because it was hard to start. I transferred the factory re-man engine
I had in a rusting out car to it, and surprise - it was suddenly hard to
start! I found a small place where the steel fuel line had been rubbing
Well stated. I had the same experience with a small rust spot under
a clamp. Not wet. Not much rust. but the car started fine after I
cut it out. Michaels's observation that the fuel seems to flow to
the filter as the air leaks in indicates the return line.
One 115 chassis 300D I bought
You should also check the current draw on the starter when hot. When
the windings go bad, they get high resistance, and that excess
resistance goes way up with temperature, so when you crank with a bad
starter that is already hot, it won't turn the engine fast enough to
start. 100 rpm
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