If they're Pentax film cameras the users are keeping the rest of their
lenses to use on their new DSLRs.
Gonz wrote:
Not only that, the proof can be seen in ebay. Just look at all the film
SLRs being sold with a normal 50mm 2.0 lens. I would wager that DSLRs
are no different.
rg
Hah Bumhug!
frank theriault wrote:
I've been so busy at work lately, I haven't had time to pay much
attention to the list.
I just wanted to pop in for a second to wish everyone a Happy Hannukah!!
cheers,
frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Stan Halpin
Sent: 16 December 2006 01:14
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re:
JCO, WR, et al:
Shut the fuck up and go threadjack some other topic!
Jesus Fucking Zombie Christ, can't you two lay off the fightin' words for a
while? The world would be a much happier place if you did.
Thanks.
John
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Ken merely is.
Like a force of nature that we can't quite grasp in the fleshly
carnality of our mortal fists - a zephyr of formless expression.
Unknowable, ineffable, immortal, invisible - a hymn to the visual
oneness of beyond. The formless form. Knowledge without knowing.
Reality without
She told me in the last year or so, the film shelves behind the cash
went from 8 to 3 .
At my former place of work, until about a year and a half ago we had a big
wall of film (seen to the left in this snap of me in my Tusken Raider
costume from a few Halloweens ago:
Tom C wrote:
A good 50% of the photos displayed here are nothing more than
stinking street shots of homeless people or mere snapshots
with very little if any consideration given to composition.
Sadly, not living in an area of great natural beauty like your good self,
it's very easy to
Hi gang,
sory to be so late.
I am out on a customer's site without Internet Connection so i am totally lost.
Here are the themes for 2007
January - All Open
February - Duett
March - Black and White
April - Surprise
May - Blossom
June - Weather
July - Visual Pollution
August -
Har!
Dave :-)
On 12/16/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ken merely is.
Like a force of nature that we can't quite grasp in the fleshly
carnality of our mortal fists - a zephyr of formless expression.
Unknowable, ineffable, immortal, invisible - a hymn to the visual
oneness of beyond. The
On 12/16/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah it was condescending. True enough. I apologize. :-)
No harm, no foul. :-)
Nothing wrong with well executed snapshots either.
My point is probably multi-fold.
Most people probably will not notice or look for the difference between 4x6
size
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! cried Chicken Little.
or so goes the children's tale.
I got tired of listening to all these 'nervious nellies'.
I got tired of looking at movies of shaking sensors.
I've got the sensor cleaner turned off, so I don't feel any shaking,
or more
I will let everybody know :)
Sure CI is really not pentax fan, I'd say they became (they were
pretty neutral years ago) what they need to sell enough (yeah the Web
is the culprit here) and tends presents anything as a revolution. Yeah
the same crap as in most magazine.
They praise the D40 for
Johns assumptions are correct.
But don't worry Richard. No harm done.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Forbes
Sent: 16. desember 2006 04:41
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K10D
Most camera reviewers are not talented photographers. They simply enjoy
fiddling with photographic tools. Most photographers on the other hand make
pictures, not qualified reviews.
I'm tempted to compare this to music reviewers. Many music reviewers are ex
musicians who are not talented enough
Hi Ken
but would'nt TIF be the ideal solution then?
greetings
Markus
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Subject: Re: K10D review online
On 12/15/06 11:00 PM,
The title of this thread just begs for it...
This guy was captured in the act of singing I want my K10D to a
certain tune by Dire Straits:
http://tinyurl.com/a5lsz
Jostein
On 12/16/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen it before, but I don't take back anything Ive said about
Maybe but in the same order of things, in Belgium (I'm talking about
what I know) people teaching other how to teach usually never had a
foot in a classroom. Stupid isn't it?
Nobody can be an expert in eveything but then if you dunno how to make
a decent picture, please, don't review a camera !
Bob W wrote:
Ken merely is.
[...]
Beyond wind.
Too bad. Then it's pointless to even fart in his general direction.
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WRONG
It's approximately 83.73257169%
vbg
Dave
On 12/16/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, make that 85%.
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Do you really think that 90% of DSLR buyers
will never buy another lens? That's crazy!
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Shel,
From my point of view, you've always been the jamoke.
Tom C.
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: K10D review online
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:57:58 -0800
Is this the same
Peter,
No personal attacks meant by my post.
Watching the sensor move was illustrative.
But I don't thnk it proved anything.
My confidence in Shake Reduction was undermined by all this.
I couldn't feel the camera DOING anything.
That's why I did the test and made the side by side post.
I can't
WRONG
It's approximately 83.73257169%
Dave
You obviosuly know NOTHING about professional pohotography, to anyone with
half-a-clue, its obviously 83.73257168%. What were you thinking, man.
- Peter
On 12/16/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, make that 85%.
J. C.
Sorry mate, I guess I too am guilty of getting worked up over things on list
that I ought not be... just having a JCO moment, and I apologise.
FWIW, I do agree it works a treat in some cases, I was really just concerned
in some cases it did not where I thought it should, so I guess I went
I've never been able to feel SR working (except when doing the dust
removal routine), but on long exposures I can sometimes hear it. I'm
not surprised that you can't feel it given the SR systems lack of
whirring/vibrating motors.
I've taken some nice hand held shots with the FA 77 Ltd FA 100
If someone is going to buy a DSLR, but it's NOT
to use multiple lenses, WHY would they buy
a DSLR in the first place? The only answer I
can think of is for better image quality and
you are not going to get that from a cheap
supernormal zoom lens. They would be much better
served buying a high end
I would think the goal of the highest quality level jpeg output is to
make it as closely as possible match what you can do with a RAW file
tweeked and saved as a jpeg, but do it automatically. This simply
may not be possible any or all the time, but its a good goal to try to
achieve.
I think that
Actually, in this case, TIFF would simply be JPEG without the
compression. The 'issue' is with the processing, not the final file
format (unlike say a JPEG artifacting issue, which would be with the
JPEG compression itself).
-Adam
Markus Maurer wrote:
Hi Ken
but would'nt TIF be the ideal
Tom C wrote:
Yeah it was condescending. True enough. I apologize. :-)
Nothing wrong with well executed snapshots either.
My point is probably multi-fold.
Most people probably will not notice or look for the difference between 4x6
size snapshots of any DSLR. However, they may read a
On 12/16/06 6:03 AM, Peter Loveday, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree it can (and does) do amazing things; my query was more whether mine
was working reliably. I was simpy trying to determine if my camera may have
a fault or not, I was not trying to attack the Pentax SR implementaion, or
I suspect that people who don't shoot RAW don't realise that it is not
very time-consuming at all once you get the hang of it, and provided you
use good software.
I use Silkypix, having changed over from Capture One LE. I find that I
can get better colour balance with Silkypix than I could
On 12/16/06 6:50 AM, Markus Maurer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but would'nt TIF be the ideal solution then?
Hi Markus,
TIFF file size is atrocious.
For family snaps and casual walkabout/trekking etc, well tuned jpeg is just
fine for me. If and when I find something interesting during shooting,
WRONG- if you have multiple bodies,
and each of them has exposure compensation
dialin in to get them to all match, you
not only have to remember what exp compensation
to use on these bodies everytime you
turn them on, you will be further prone
to mistakes when you actually want to use
REAL
The irony of this is that for prints, especially small ones like the
4x6's that are the most popular for general use, the Pentax JPEG output
is actually better than a more heavily sharpened print.
Most minilabs oversharpen everything they print.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I would think
Oh, GO EAT SHIT you fucking asshole.
Why dont you just go back to fucking
your mother and just leave me alone?
You dont have the right to start with
these obscene personal remarks on the list
every time you dont agree with my
posts. I said absurd and meant absurd,
but that's not hardly the same
It should be noted, I used the word ABSURD,
WR used fuckface in reply. Put the blame
where it is due WR.
jco
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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:24 AM
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Subject: Re:
Smart people dont totally dismiss reviews. This
is because there is no way that the average person
can use and test anywhere even remotely near
what a typical magazine/web reviewer can use and
test. And the bottom line is the more gear a particular
reviewer can use and test the more knowledgable
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(snip)
He does take nice pictures of the equipment. :-)
Godfrey
Not as long as he photographs lenses with umbrellas
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Hi.
I'll receive my K10D sometime between Christmas and New Years Day (Santa
is late this year...).
As I have an Epson P-4000 (no new firmware since Dec.2005) I wonder if
the K10D RAW files (PEF/DNG) are readable. I'm almost certain that they
are not readable but if someone has the chance to
Especially if you resize for web as part of your process.
-Adam
John Forbes wrote:
I suspect that people who don't shoot RAW don't realise that it is not
very time-consuming at all once you get the hang of it, and provided you
use good software.
I use Silkypix, having changed over
Same reason they drive a SUV, but never go off-road. It's more impressive.
-Adam
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
If someone is going to buy a DSLR, but it's NOT
to use multiple lenses, WHY would they buy
a DSLR in the first place? The only answer I
can think of is for better image quality and
you
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:11:35 -, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Especially if you resize for web as part of your process.
Absolutely.
John
-Adam
John Forbes wrote:
I suspect that people who don't shoot RAW don't realise that it is not
very time-consuming at all once you get the
Reading list mail first thing in the morning has gotten to be distasteful
and is no longer enjoyable. Many, if not most, posts are mean spirited and
filled with anger and personal attacks. Even Bob Sullivan has resorted to
using expletives in his posts. The JCO wars continue, Tom C. has
John your argument below, while valid, is from the photographers perspective.
I know lots of people who own D/SLR's and only have one lens. They
simply got caught up in the Pro's use SLR's, ergo SLR's must take
better pictures mindset, bought one with a cheap Sigma zoom use it
like a PS camera
Best is subjective. The review is based on pixel peeping, not prints
that you hang on your wall. I suspect the slightly less crispy look of
the K10D jpeg prints would prove superior to what the others are
turning out. I know I don't go for maximum edge hardness on most of my
RAW conversions.
hi, I was reffering to a high quality reference file, similar
to a RAW but already optimized and saved in a low compression jpeg
format, not a file
just suitable for 4x6 prints.
jco
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Sent: Saturday,
If the P4000 does read DNG then those coming out of the K10D should be
read fine enough :)
2006/12/16, Pedro Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi.
I'll receive my K10D sometime between Christmas and New Years Day (Santa
is late this year...).
As I have an Epson P-4000 (no new firmware since
I said Johns assumptions are correct.
Kind of incorrect English I believe. Sorry bout that.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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Øsleby
Sent: 16. desember 2006 12:42
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail
Correction: Not as long as he lights his photographs of lenses with
umbrellas.
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Sent: Saturday, 16 December 2006 11:08 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: DPReview K10D Review
Who would they be impressing? Certainly not
anyone who knows anything about cameras. I
would be more impressed seeing a true high end
point and shoot then I would seeing an entry level
DSLR with a cheap kit lens on it all the time. To each his
own I guess
jco
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On 12/16/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WRONG- if you have multiple bodies,
and each of them has exposure compensation
dialin in to get them to all match, you
not only have to remember what exp compensation
to use on these bodies everytime you
turn them on,
No you don't, the
I'll use them both when covering events: one with the DA 50-200 (soon
to be replaced with a DA* I hope) and the other with the DA 16-45/4.
I've done this several times now. I also keep the DA 12-24 in a belt
mounted lens case. The two cameras hang from my neck. I switch back and
forth as
On 12/16/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading list mail first thing in the morning has gotten to be distasteful
and is no longer enjoyable. Many, if not most, posts are mean spirited and
filled with anger and personal attacks.
Ease up Shel, it's the holiday season.
Isn't mean
On 12/16/06 8:03 AM, John Forbes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect that people who don't shoot RAW don't realise that it is not
very time-consuming at all once you get the hang of it, and provided you
use good software.
I think there are many reasons why people shoot jpeg in varying
With true high resolution imaging, ( like LF film ) you
get both superfine details and no edge hardness.
i.e. You don't have to sacrifice one to get the other like
your talking about below.
Like you, I really abhor over sharpened digital
images but I do love superfine details in large prints,
I agree that theres no place for the obscene personal attacks
here and we all know started just them up again, and hint
it wasn't me.
jco
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Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:27 AM
To: PDML
On 12/16/06 8:38 AM, J. C. O'Connell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who would they be impressing? Certainly not
anyone who knows anything about cameras. I
would be more impressed seeing a true high end
point and shoot then I would seeing an entry level
DSLR with a cheap kit lens on it all the
You only missed an apostrophe. Otherwise, what you wrote was perfectly
correct.
And, of course, you've now missed another apostrophe before bout. :-)
John
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:16:06 -, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I said Johns assumptions are correct.
Kind of incorrect
Actually, Shel, your recent comments on handling the K10D have been most
informative. Good reading while I wait for Pentax UK to start supplying
the UK.
Tom C is Tom C, and JCO is JCO. Don't let 'em get to you.
John
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:27:28 -, Shel Belinkoff
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On 12/16/06 8:41 AM, David Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ease up Shel, it's the holiday season.
Isn't mean spiritedness anger what it's all about?
This list, even with flame flaring up from time to time, is far more benign
than any others.
I have learned to take it easy in this list.
Sir - even if the camera remembers
he exposure compensation setting when turned
off and back on again (I thought someone said
it didn't) , thats not the same
as or as good as having multiple cameras
all matched with the exposure compensation
set to ZERO on all of them. See my earlier
posts as to
You are correct. I remember how delighted I was some thirty years ago
when I took a tripod mounted picture of the rear of my house in Chicago
with my 4x5 and discovered that I could crop down on a Coke carton that
was on the back step and read the print on it. :-). Wish I still had
time to
Bob -
My opinion is that if it's working, you shouldn't be able to feel it.
If you can feel it, it will be inducing it's own blur.
If the sensor is counteracting your movement I would think it's motion
would be imperceptible.
My introduction to Pentax SR was with the A10 point and shoot. If
Hi Pedro,
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:19:02 -, Pedro Oliveira wrote:
I'll receive my K10D sometime between Christmas and New Years Day (Santa
is late this year...).
:-)
As I have an Epson P-4000 (no new firmware since Dec.2005) I wonder if
the K10D RAW files (PEF/DNG) are readable. I'm almost
Thanks for being a clear voice of reason, Ken.
Well said. :-)
Jostein
On 12/16/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/16/06 8:41 AM, David Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ease up Shel, it's the holiday season.
Isn't mean spiritedness anger what it's all about?
This list, even
I mentioned this about a year ago, but will do a quick FWIW recap.
Local photo shop owner after attending a photo convention, (I forget
which one), decided to stock the *ist DL, due to its great price
point. He wondered if the 18~55 was at least equal to a like Promaster
(Tamron re-badge) so asked
- Original Message -
From: Peter Loveday Subject: Re: Shake Reduction Doesn't Work...
Your shot doesn't show me that my K10D doesn't have a fault; I can, in
general, come to a similar result as you have... but I'm not always
convinced it is working reliably.
I find it easy to
Wow Bob, that was beautiful.
Do you write Haiku also?
William Robb
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From: Bob W Subject: RE: The reason we're doing it all wrong
Ken merely is.
Like a force of nature that we can't quite grasp in the fleshly
carnality of our mortal fists - a zephyr of formless
Mmm Tamron rebadge? Does Tamron make low end 18-55?
Wouldn't it be a Sigma instead?
2006/12/16, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I mentioned this about a year ago, but will do a quick FWIW recap.
Local photo shop owner after attending a photo convention, (I forget
which one), decided to stock the
Stan - that's beautiful, really brought tears to my eyes. My travel
experiences for biz - get off overnight 10 hr flight in time to shower
at hotel and make it to meeting by 10am, try to get back to airport by
9.30pm to catch said flight back. Bastard.
Norm
Stan Halpin wrote:
OK, here is the
LOL ... Funny looking, I agree. :-)
G
On Dec 16, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:
Correction: Not as long as he lights his photographs of lenses with
umbrellas.
Not as long as he photographs lenses with umbrellas
He does take nice pictures of the equipment. :-)
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On Dec 16, 2006, at 6:15 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote:
Good question, I have the P4000 too, and the K10 since a week or so.
Had not tried it yet, so did a quick test now ...
- RAW DNG: Not recognized/displayed
- RAW PEF: Displays fine (extracts the embedded JPG)
- JPG: Displays fine :-)
Of
Lets get this straight.
You telling someone they are an idiot or stupid is not a personal attack?
You start this crap, then cry when someone calls you on it
You have your head so far up your ass you don't have a clue about how fucked
up you are.
Anyway, you are on my kill list now, so..
Piss
Adelheid,
Might you swap October and November? There aren't any
fall colors around by 20 September for most of us, so
we would be mining our archives rather than shooting
for the topic.
I appreciate very much the effort you put into the
PUG!
Rick
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Hi gang,
When I was traveling every month to London, Madrid, Paris,
Marseilles, Munich, Tokyo, Milan, Sydney, etc to attend consortium
meetings, I would always schedule my trips to include at least an
extra weekend for myself on each trip.
It's simple: I only fly for business on business hours. Told
fuckface
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Define this for me, sounds interesting...
Norm
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
It's simple: I only fly for business on business hours. Told my
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I guess you cant read, I wasn't OBSCENE
about it anything like you were in reply,
and absurd is absurd, don't be absurd
and you wont get called absurd. Even
this post I am replying to is absurd
because it completely overlooks the obscenity
issue which isn't minor IMHO.
jco
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That's it! Ken seriously doesn't belong here.
Reason has no place on the PDML.
VBG
Dave
On 12/16/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for being a clear voice of reason, Ken.
Well said. :-)
Jostein
On 12/16/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/16/06 8:41 AM, David
huh? What's YOUR malfunction?
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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D
fuckface
J. C. O'Connell
On 12/17/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adelheid,
Might you swap October and November? There aren't any
fall colors around by 20 September for most of us, so
we would be mining our archives rather than shooting
for the topic.
Har!
Autumn here is March-May. And the native plants
Bill - this is an argument and you don't know shit. Get over it. Now,
let me tell you how flawed you are...
Norm
William Robb wrote:
Its not an arguement, it's a discussion.
snip
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I live work very close to the industry I'm involved in. I'd be happy
to travel a bit further than 20 minute drive from the office.
1 business trip in 6 years. 1.5 flight up, 2.5 hours of
inductions/waiting, 2 hours work, 2 hours of driving around waiting,
1.5 hour flight back.
I'd love to go
Thanks, Jan.
Your information is quite valuable for me.
One thing, however, that is a pity is the fact that the P-4000 only
supports 2Gb SD cards. I guess I have to stick to the 2 Gb cards unless
there is a new firmware, which I doubt now from your information from
Epson at Photokina (there is
And P.S if you cant differentiate the difference
between calling someone's particular statements stupid or
absurd and giving a reason why, and just reply by calling
someone a fuckface (your obscene word, not mine )on a
public forum, that only proves
your own stupidity even further.
Glad your
Stop whining ShelG
Norm
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Reading list mail first thing in the morning has gotten to be distasteful
and is no longer enjoyable. Many, if not most, posts are mean spirited and
filled with anger and personal attacks. Even Bob Sullivan has resorted to
using expletives
Malcolm,
I hope you would not feel reluctant to post shots here.
The pdml and PUG do have some very good photographers and pix,
but there has always been an open, welcoming group here. And
people are happy to offer comments on what is right or wrong with a photo.
Usually, comments are
All thoughts comments a while back, about only submitting images of
the utmost quality to the PUG are a crock IMHO. Post the best you can
do, and await any constructive criticism.
If I relied on the comments of friends and family, I would have
stopped trying to do better 10 years ago.
As a
I'm only reciting what the shop owner told me. (??)
Jack
--- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mmm Tamron rebadge? Does Tamron make low end 18-55?
Wouldn't it be a Sigma instead?
2006/12/16, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I mentioned this about a year ago, but will do a quick FWIW recap.
those not thoughts
Idiot Dave
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All thoughts comments a while back, about only submitting images of
the utmost quality to the PUG are a crock IMHO.
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OK Thanks JAck. I'm unaware of any such low end Tamron but I may be
wrong. I'll check when I have time.
2006/12/16, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm only reciting what the shop owner told me. (??)
Jack
--- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mmm Tamron rebadge? Does Tamron make low end
Thanks George,
I've come to similar conclusions.
The movement of the sensor has to be only fractions of a 1/1000th of an inch.
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/16/06, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob -
My opinion is that if it's working, you shouldn't be able to feel it.
If you can feel it, it
Tom,
Sorry, but I'm just tired of your constant drumbeating that there is
something wrong with the K10D. I'm sure it has many faults, but is
also giving many us enjoyment to use it. Can't you see that and stop
calling us names for praising Pentax.
You should assume that we can all read here,
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
MY replies in * under each box below:
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JCO wrote:
Subject: RE: Need Advice: value of an *istD outfit
YOU read this once : I was talking about AVOIDING
the need for exposure compensation
See thread K10D Review Online for a discussion earlier this evening...
On Dec 15, 2006, at 11:57 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Over at dpreview, a fellow posted a reply he got from Pentax USA about
K10D image sharpness. Here's an extract that some of us are puzzled by:
If you prefer a sharper
They couldn't care less about anybody ctually in the know, the want to
impress their friends and family who, by and large, don't know shit
about cameras and don't care. The big black DSLR is impressive to them
even with the wee kit zoom.
You'd be shocked how often I get asked if I'm a pro,
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:57:53 -, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
All thoughts comments a while back, about only submitting images of
the utmost quality to the PUG are a crock IMHO. Post the best you can
do, and await any constructive criticism.
If I relied on the comments of
I'm with you Dave. The PUG has taught me how to be better. If you
look at some of my original PUG contributions you will see how much
worse I was. I'm just happy to have crawled up to mediocre! Average
here is a whole lot better than Very Good in a lot of places. (Even
the snapshots are a cut
Sorry Shel, I'll try not to let it happen again. ;-) Regards, Bob S.
On 12/16/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading list mail first thing in the morning has gotten to be distasteful
and is no longer enjoyable. Many, if not most, posts are mean spirited and
filled with
On Dec 16, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
That's an interesting point. With film you always could determine
an EI
and use that to compensate for meter/film sensitivity(assuming you
ddn't
have a low-end camera with only DX coding). Wih digital you can't. A
custom function that
Dave,
Maybe October (November?) could be Nature's Colors?
It would be interesting to contrast the two seasons from different hemispheres.
Regards, Bob S.
On 12/16/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/17/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adelheid,
Might you swap October
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