Hi Bojidar,
on 18 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
thank you very much for the nice answers to my previous mail! It is a
really special feeling to know that I have done something worthwhile,
We have to thank you - the KMP is a real bible for all Pentax users. I'm
really sorry, that your
Hi Frits,
on 18 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
How about the price then? :-)
Afair the *ist prices were posted here some days ago. Regarding the
*ist-D: Pentax don't know the price yet as it depends on the CCD price
which they can't influence. They told me something around 2000 Euro
but
--- Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
[snip]
Now, where is Pentax? I feel that they have slowly
but surely abandoned
the market segment in which I am -- serious amateur.
If we ignore the
brilliant FA* 200-600/5.6, they don't have much for
sports or wild-life
Hi Boz,
I am very unhappy that it were my K400/f5.6 and my M42/K500/f4.5 that
made you turn away from Pentax. It is true that these wonderful all
manual lenses need a lot of practice to get good results, however it is
not only possible to get good results, you also would have gotten such
Just for the record: .RO and not .ru stands for Romania.
Servus, Alin (Romania)
Bob wrote:
BB I note the .ru extension on your email address. Perhaps Mac owes you an
BB apology, but, we in the US don't usually think of Rumania as Middle Eastern.
BB I'm sure many folks in different
Hi Boz,
I believe I'm one of those close to your point of view. Pentax is
good enough for what I do now, yet when trying to take on more
specialized genres of photography I always look either to old lenses
or to third parties. Pentax 35mm became a highly polarized system,
and it's
From: Bojidar Dimitrov Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:46:21 -0800
The only lens that I was able to afford was a
second-hand 400/5.6, and it had to be AF. I have never seen a used FA*
400/5.6, so I look at eBay for a Canon.
Why does it have to be a Pentax FA*? Sigma has good AF 400 lenses, at good
Hi,
Wednesday, March 19, 2003, 6:42:49 AM, you wrote:
[...]
Last I saw Tom this afternoon, he and the page designer were crafting a
written letter of apology to be sent out to the many, many readers who DID,
to their displeasure, notice the signs.
how odd to complain about robust language
So, the main factors are:
- Canon has a more complete AF system
In terms of lenses yes, but who needs all of them?
Complete means the end users could choose more appropiate lenses based on
their own need, not neceassily to buy all of them. With a relatively limited
system, the end users have to
--- Paul Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking about getting a filter system
lately, mainly for grad
nd's but maybe other filters as well. One obvious
problem is vinegretting
with my FA* 24mm when I also use my Heliopan
polarizer.
What filter systems do you use?
Also is
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Peter
What a great offer, you already have my name down, does this mean if I make
some insensitive and illinformed satement about aother nationalities [in
other words behave like total w***er I'll get it free?
Clive
Antibes
France
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What a wanker!
Clive Evans
Antibes
France
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Enough political bollocks...
Has ny one out there any experience of the 35mm tilt/shift russian k mounts
that appear on ebay. or ibdeed the 16mm fisheye zenitar kmount?
CIive Evans
Antibes
FRANCE
Hi, Paul, facing the same dilemma I'm leaning towards a Cokin P
holder but I'm wary about the allegedly poor quality of resin
Cokins. On the other hand, the glass Tieffens are outrageously
expensive; does anybody know anything about the resin made Hitec,
priced in between?
As for
Clive evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 19.03.2003,
11:08:38:
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or ibdeed the 16mm fisheye zenitar kmount?
I recently bought a new one at ebay... I really like it... you can see
some pictures I've taken with it at
From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:14:40 +0200
Hi, Paul, facing the same dilemma I'm leaning towards a Cokin P
holder but I'm wary about the allegedly poor quality of resin
Cokins. On the other hand, the glass Tieffens are outrageously
expensive; does anybody
Great to hear your on board, Sid. I love the 6x7 and use it extensively.
In regard to film advance, the lever doesn't engage until film is
loaded. Once film is loaded it and the counter reaches number one, the
lever should stop after advancing each frame.
Paul Stenquist
(Sorry if this message reaches you twice, but I wrote it _before_ actually
subscribing to the list, so I'm not sure whether it was delivered at all.)
Boz wrote:
Now think about it. The camera meters before the shot WHILE THE
APERTURE IS OPEN. While the image is being taken the aperture is
We go through this a couple of times every year. It always passes.
Let's keep our cool and not make comments of which we'll later be ashamed.
Collin
If the lens stops down, this would be correct but the lens does not stops
down on the *ist. Nothing happens when you set aperture on it, it's wide
opened at all aperture settings.
Best wishes,
Roland
From: Stefan Ittner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:00:57 +0100 (MET)
Now wouldn't
Roland wrote:
If the lens stops down, this would be correct but the lens does not stops
down on the *ist. Nothing happens when you set aperture on it, it's wide
opened at all aperture settings.
Are you absolutely sure about this? From what Boz wrote, I concluded that
the aperture DOES
i use two systems, regular screw-in at 77m with necessary adapter rings for most
things like circular polarizer, UV, Skylight, warming, and then the Cokin P for all of
the gradient ND filters. i might someday have to get a circular polarizer for the
Cokin P, but for now, not planning on it. i
Boris lives in Israel, having recently moved from Russia.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 00:41
Subject: Re: TO FRED WITH LOVE...
I note the .ru extension on your email address. Perhaps Mac owes you
Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think one difference between the EOS-3 and MZ-S that should be considered
is the external build quality. The MZ-S is quite solid as far as newer
cameras go and the EOS-3 feels like plastic junk, I have shot both of these
cameras and there is no comparison.
i guess it simplifies the mechanicals enough. it's just a permanent tab on the body
that doesn't move. i was hoping for stopped down metering, but i guess not.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Roland Mabo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 07:10
On March 18, 2003 07:51 pm, Steve Desjardins wrote:
I got it. The problem was I was playing with an old m42 super tak set
on manual and it stops down when on the camera or not. I'll try an M
lens when I get home.
Which might mean a 50 year old manual M42 lens will work just fine.
Yes. Probably my error. I make a lot of them.
Regards,
Bob...
--
Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying
the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine
and women. Shall we then
Boris lives in Israel.
-frank
Bob Blakely wrote:
I note the .ru extension on your email address. Perhaps Mac owes you an
apology, but, we in the US don't usually think of Rumania as Middle Eastern.
I'm sure many folks in different places lump sections of the world together
differently as is
Agreed -
but Specs do play a part. I wouldn't purchase an automobile on looks alone
(although many have) as that would be silly since I'm not made of . I
also wouldn't purchase an automobile without test driving it first.
The whole package has to be considered; and, as I often tell friends
- Original Message -
From: Clive evans
Subject: Tilt/shift.Russian lenses
Has ny one out there any experience of the 35mm tilt/shift russian k
mounts
that appear on ebay. or ibdeed the 16mm fisheye zenitar kmount?
The Zenitar is an OK lens. The colour rendition is a bit
Aha! Thanks for the education, Herb...
keith whaley
Herb Chong wrote:
Boris lives in Israel, having recently moved from Russia.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 00:41
Subject: Re: TO FRED
So I am corrected. Definitely my error.
Regards,
Bob...
--
Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying
the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine
and women. Shall we then prohibit
Yup, my error for sure.
Regards,
Bob...
--
Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying
the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine
and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?
At 13:38 18/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
I have seen a few items in the Pentax Belgium catalog that are not available anymore
around here. They told me to ask the items from any store selling Pentax in Belgium,
that they were not selling items themselves. So, anybody can provide me with some
I've never been to France, but my daughter went when she was 12 for a
language competition. (I have a wonderful picture of her and her six
friends trying on hats in a Paris shop) My French souvenirs were a
necktie with little Eiffel towers, a coffee mug that says Paris and a
bag of French candy,
Since you said nothing about and has the money GRIN. You can send me
the first one to arrive. If that was just an absent minded omission on your
part, however, forget it.
Tom - that is my election promise. Make me Mayor of Brighton and I will
ensure that every single darned one of you
Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:
For me the *ist is a great camera but it is the *ist-entry-level.
Take the *ist D with a fully compatible KAF2-mount (without
Powerzoom) and work it out to an analog camera - that might be
the flagship in fall.
This is a rather optimistic point of view, but for the sake of
Hi Roland,
Do you remember the time about three weeks? Pentax had said full
compatibility for the *ist, and everyone was talking about how his
personal Pentax sources were confirming that. Pentax-Europe's marketing
director had confirmed it, and I was still not believing it because it
was not
Roland posted, among many other good things:
But the *ist D will have full compatibility with the older lenses.
So, there's still no signs that Pentax are about to abandon support for
aperture ring. You can't judge Pentax future mid and market bodies by the
entry-level body.
What bothers
It took me 8 weeks to get one, and that was direct from the distributor.
Feroze
- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)
Yeah, whenever I go into the
Most people aren't even aware of what a SLR is, I scare people when I remove
my lenses, they assume that every camera works like a point shoot. I once
convinced a friend of mine to buy a SLR solely on the fact that she could
focus the camera. (She was using some fixed lens nikon P S)
Newbies are
From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:27:20 -0500
Pentax insisted that the *ist is entry-level (much to Paal's pleasure).
We also know that the D version has full compatibility. I can see that
there's place for a *ist S, with glass pentaprism, full lens compatibility
and
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:31 US/Central
What bothers me, (I am not Boz, and I am not switching to Canon anytime
soon) is that the film *ist is now the FOURTH entry-level body they've
introduced with this mount.
But it's still entry level.
Pentax has not made a mid or
I've noticed a few jibes and pokes at the French over the past couple
of
days or week, what with their veto threat on Security Council. So far
nothing really terrible has been said, but it's starting...
I endorse what you have said, please refrain from making obnoxious
comments about the
Bob Keefer wrote:
Last I saw Tom this afternoon, he and the page designer were crafting a
written letter of apology to be sent out to the many, many readers who DID,
to their displeasure, notice the signs.
Personally, I would not protest against such picture in my newspaper. On
the contrary. I
From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:11:29 +0100
Do you remember the time about three weeks? Pentax had said full
compatibility for the *ist, and everyone was talking about how his
personal Pentax sources were confirming that. Pentax-Europe's marketing
director had
H... does the *istD have a DOF preview button?
Wouldn't be too hard to change the firmware to meter when it's pressed,
and indicate that exposure. Or even to do stop-down metering in aperture
priority mode.
Pentax, you listening?
-Mat
Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:
Roland Mabo wrote:
If the lens
Still my favorite camera and lens combo. There's just something
therapeutic about loading up a roll of TriX and taking a walk with it...
-Mat
Caveman wrote:
I'd suggest a ME Super with a 50/1.4 lens. You won't burry too much
money into that combo, so you won't be tempted to sell it. And when
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Clive evans wrote:
that appear on ebay. or ibdeed the 16mm fisheye zenitar kmount?
I own the Zenitar 16/2.8. I like it, quite alot.
I'm actually thinking of adding the Arsat 30mm medfo fisheye, and perhaps
even one of their mirror lenses as well.
--
Hi!
HC Boris lives in Israel, having recently moved from Russia.
HC Herb...
Just to let you know few basic things about me :). Herb is right,
partially.
My rambler.ru address happens to be based on RUssian server. RU is
Russia.
I've moved from Moscow (CIS by that time) to Israel in 1992, that
From: Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:37:07 -0500
H... does the *istD have a DOF preview button?
Wouldn't be too hard to change the firmware to meter when it's pressed, and
indicate that exposure. Or even to do stop-down metering in aperture
priority mode.
I remember
Just some interesting info???
Field of view Magnification
MZ-S 92% vertically/horizontally0.75X
ZX-L 92% vertically/horizontally0.7X
ZX-5n92% vertically/horizontally0.8X
ZX-6090% vertically/horizontally0.77X
EOS 3
Cheers to that, Cotty!
As I said, yesterday, Arnolds post made the whole difference.
Any good bars/pubs in Oxford, btw? :-)
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually I think this is a great place to hang out. Just like many
have
said before, it's like a
I hear Oxford is dead these days. Since they declared war on the motor
car and Reading completely redeveloped and created a massive new
shooping centre, everyone comes here.
They cant build the bars fast enough. I am amazed how they are all
still packed. Almost every other building is a
in a disused basement behind the sign that says Beware of Leopard?
Herb
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:15
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #93
Tom - that is my election promise. Make me Mayor of
That's because the un-satisfied ones left (for the most part). There are
about half the number of people on this list now as there were when I
first joined about 6 years ago.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think there are many satisfied serious amateurs on this list.
Boz,
Welcome to the world of modern photography!
BR
I like the LEE filter system because you can buy
graduated filters that slide up/down in the holder.
Round graduated filters don't allow that because their
graduated line generally fits directly over the
centerline of the lens, making compositon difficult.
4 filters in a LEE holder avoids
You hardly know how the Pentax mount works, what makes you think you
know anything about the Nikon one? The N80 may not meter ambient light
with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash and can perfectly control (stop
down the aperture) a MF lens in manual mode.
Go back to mindlessly waving the
Don't I owe you a Program Plus body if the Ick D ships by Sept.? The PP
is probably more reliable than the LX.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I'll get an LX so I can stick around here...
Can you imagine the expense involved when he drops one of these things!
Bill
For now I'll still be shooting the 645n mostly, but for things I would
shoot 35mm with, I'll be switching to Canon digital.
Once I get my workflow down, I'll stop shooting the 645 in favor of
the 1DS.
Maybe
I have the 30mm and it's really a fine lens, especially for the money. One
heck of a big piece of glass though.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Tilt/shift.Russian lenses
On
For anyone who has started photography with the EOS system since 1988,
and that's millions of people it's a total who gives a shit? Pentax
users put great importance on things about the Pentax system that other
folks couldn't care less about.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pentax does not
From: Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:31:51 -0800 (PST)
I like the LEE filter system because you can buy
graduated filters that slide up/down in the holder.
That's nice, and true for the Cokin too. I have the Cokin system and I do it
all the time with my graduated grey's and
--- Roland Mabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heiko Hamann tested the *ist with a M-lens at Cebit.
He reported : Changing the aperture didn't change
the viewfinder image.
So, when you change the aperture - the lens does not
stops down.
_
But neither does closing the
From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0500
You hardly know how the Pentax mount works, what makes you think you know
anything about the Nikon one? The N80 may not meter ambient light with MF
lenses, but does with TTL flash and can perfectly control (stop down
Which would you prefer on an LX?
Peter Smekal
Uppsala, Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce Rubenstein wrote:
The N80 may not meter ambient light
with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash
Seems to me like being a very useful feature.
cheers,
caveman
It's amusing. Sort of like watching life aboard the USS Caine.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why are you here?
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Rubenstein
Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)
For anyone who has started photography with the EOS system since 1988,
and that's millions of people it's a total who gives a shit? Pentax
users put great importance on things about the Pentax system that
Hi!
All I can say is that you probably made a right choice. I am not sure
about Canon since I think I never actually held any Canon SLR camera
for more than one minute. But your reasons for abandoning Pentax seem
pretty sound. That's exactly the point that seems to be worth
repeating over and
KT Takeshita wrote:
In the right moment, I will publish his
perverse mails sent to me to show what he really is (I never do that in
any other situation).
Ken,
Please don't. We're mature enough as to already have an educated opinion
on the little grumpy old man that lurks in the pub's corner.
In one point Bojidar is right.namely it is much easier and cheaper to find seconf hand
Canon gear-great advantage!
Alek
Uytkownik Roland Mabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:56:23 +0100
Nice to see such words! I agree with you in most points. I really
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Bill Owens wrote:
I have the 30mm and it's really a fine lens, especially for the money. One
heck of a big piece of glass though.
I think you were one of the reasons I decided I wanted one, you're a big
fan of yours, and I'm quite satisfied with the Zenitar.
I'm still up
They cant build the bars fast enough. I am amazed how they are all
still packed. Almost every other building is a massive bar or
restaurant or pub or nightclub!
Sounds just like Brighton. If I was an eating out type of guy, I expect I
could visit a different restaurant every night for a
Now... I have read about this before, a few months ago, but my brains lack info.
Is it possible to use AA battery pack Fg NiMH cells together, if so are there any
risks, problems or inaccuracies?
Any input / personal experiences / technical information is welcome. I know about the
1.2V and
#1
I had lunch today with a friend from France. She hubbie are
working toward US citizenship. Even with this she has a coworker
who told her to go home. The anger people are expressing toward individuals
is totally unnecessary. Some radio personalities, Glenn Beck in particular,
are fueling
Cord camera on 5th Ave. here in Columbus
has a Super Multi-Coated Takumar 500/4.5
in case.
It's been converted to a Nikon mount!
Collin
Hi,
Wednesday, March 19, 2003, 1:19:48 PM, you wrote:
Bob,
Your political opinions, like Burt's, belong somewhere else. I am
disappointed that you chose to lower yourself to that level.
well, I can limbo with the best of them sometimes, Doug. But I suppose
as a longtime member my views are
I might invest in a strap, but that's a big decision. I'll have to
think about it.
tv
-Original Message-
From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (2)
Can you imagine the expense involved
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't I owe you a Program Plus body if the Ick D ships by
Sept.? The PP
is probably more reliable than the LX.
Doubt it, I've owned 3 Program bodies, and each one developed a wonky
meter.
But I'll still take it...
Bob,
My email is Russia based, not R*O*mania based. And I live in Israel. I
suppose (name) calling my country a toilet can be and is considered an
offence.
I hope my opinion became more clear to you now...
---
Boris Liberman
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On 03.3.19 2:15 PM, Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please don't. We're mature enough as to already have an educated opinion
on the little grumpy old man that lurks in the pub's corner. The pub has
some good air conditioning, so we'll pretty much ignore his satisfied
smile after he farts
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:14:55 +0200
I am not sure
about Canon since I think I never actually held any Canon SLR camera
for more than one minute.
A friend of mine, who is a professional photographers, has an EOS 3. For me,
it simply feels like a big, bulky
From: collinb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:32:43 -0500
#2
We live in a fallen and sinful world where there can be no peace.
Of course it can! But we can't find peace in the world if we don't find the
peace in ourselves, that's where everything starts - with ourselves.
Peace is not
Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which would you prefer on an LX?
The 18 would certainly be smaller and lighter and I think 18mm would
probably be more useful, more often (15mm is W - I - D - E) but it's
very rare and may be even more expemsive.
I only have the 15/3.5 but I do love the
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:10:04 +0100, Roland Mabo wrote:
really hate themselves. They need professional help to solve their inner
problems. It's much easier to love others, if we love ourselves. It's within
ourselves everything starts. We can't force peace, it must be found within.
And every
-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SMC K 15 mm f/3.5 or 18 mm f/3.5
Peter Smekal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which would you prefer on an LX?
I would prefer the one that fits
I remember when Canon changed from FD to EOS. Many users were not happy
about this, since they couldn't use their old equipment any more. They had
to have twin systems, or they had to sell all their manual focus gear if
they wanted to stay with Canon. The EOS system was a slow starter, a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:27:57 EST
Roland. Absolutely. Minolta too, after all they were first. Wasn't the 650
the first Canon?
Hm, I don't think so but, you know, it was a long time ago. :-)
Memories seems to fade away... :-)
When I started with SLR photography in 1988, I
What a way to start the day - okay so it started about three hours ago...
I just hope that when we finally meet - you will not remove me from that
table (maybe I will have to bring Annsan along). Always gives me goosebumps
to see myself mentioned in a post. And to think that no mention of the
Or at least his assistants will. :)
*
Ahhh, but that is the beauty of the LX - at least the ones I own - they can
take a beating. A couple of them have fallen quite a distance with no
complaints. People on this list can attest to my original 'beat to hell'
That was me and it was joke. My 12 yr old daughter had gone to France,
and the little gifts she brought me were things like a Paris coffee
mug and a necktie with the Eiffel tower, i.e., the standard tacky
trinkets. I also got a tie and a mug when she went to Disney world the
year after.
[EMAIL
From: Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:56:39 -0800 (PST)
I was under the impression that Pentax K and newer
bodies worked with Stepless metering? That is, the
camera body closes down the aperture to the setting
you input. If you set f/8 on the lens, the camera body
sets that
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:57:51 -0500, Clive Evans wrote:
guess which is better?
That's too easy. Florida, of course! r, d, g
Later,
Gary
It depends on the location in France... You want nice weather
without the Florida humidity? Go to Provence.
Andre
--
If (whoever makes it) meets your needs best,
that's what you should use.
Seems so simple, but the discussions sometimes
seem almost religious.
For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML, I
for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I
don't think anyone else here would either.
Feroze
Boz wrote
and I must say good-bye to this group. It's like being forced to abandon
your
Agree'd
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the life of me Boz I cannot see any reason for you to leave the PDML,
I
for one would never ask you too just because you using canon gear, and I
don't think anyone else here would either.
Feroze
Boz wrote
and I must say good-bye to this
I personally think we should suspend the not-so-tacit prohibition of
OT stuff, for the evening, at least, solely for reports from the
field. No editorial comments at all, please. Reporting only.
We have Cotty in England, Boris in Israel, and how others who are in
the thick of it.
Cotty wrote:
Unquestionably one of the loveliest parts of the French
countryside...or anyone elses countryside!
keith whaley
Andre Langevin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:57:51 -0500, Clive Evans wrote:
guess which is better?
That's too easy. Florida, of course! r, d, g
Later,
Gary
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