php-general Digest 9 Jul 2009 15:03:50 -0000 Issue 6220

2009-07-09 Thread php-general-digest-help
php-general Digest 9 Jul 2009 15:03:50 - Issue 6220 Topics (messages 295061 through 295081): php distributed file system 295061 by: Shane Hill 295063 by: Per Jessen 295070 by: Shane Hill Re: PHP script for detecting pattern sequences? 295062 by: WenDong

Re: [PHP] php distributed file system

2009-07-09 Thread Per Jessen
Shane Hill wrote: hi folks, I am on a couple of php lists and on one of them we were having a discussion about scalable enterprise class systems to store images for things like user photo and file uploads, etc. and whether or not something existed in php to facilitate this. well the

[PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
There are too many people in this newsgroup with the idea that you MUST obey the rules, whatever they are, WITHOUT QUESTION. I do not subscribe to this notion. I have been working in IT (or DP as it was originally called) for over 30 years, and in that time I have worked with many groups, and

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thursday 09 July 2009 09:39:11 Tony Marston wrote: There are too many people in this newsgroup with the idea that you MUST obey the rules, whatever they are, WITHOUT QUESTION. I do not subscribe to this notion. I have been working in IT (or DP as it was originally called) for over 30

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Stuart
2009/7/9 Tony Marston t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk: There are too many people in this newsgroup with the idea that you  MUST obey the rules, whatever they are, WITHOUT QUESTION. I do not subscribe to this notion. I have been working in IT (or DP as it was originally called) for over 30 years,

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Sometimes I use bottom posting, sometimes I use top posting, and sometimes I use middle posting. It depends on the circumstances. If a post contains several points that need separate responses, then I put my response under each point, and do not accumulate all at the bottom as this would make

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Lester Caine
Tony Marston wrote: Where I put my answers depends on the context, so saying that IT MUST ALWAYS BE AT THE BOTTOM doesn't wash with me. That is a sentiment I would agree with - but for one flaw! The number of people who seem to think that answering with a single line at the top and then

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Stuart
2009/7/9 Tony Marston t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk: Sometimes I use bottom posting, sometimes I use top posting, and sometimes I use middle posting. It depends on the circumstances. If a post contains several points that need separate responses, then I put my response under each point,  and

Re: [PHP] php distributed file system

2009-07-09 Thread Shane Hill
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Sounds a lot like glusterfs. http://www.gluster.org/ yep, it is similar, except I am not aiming to be all that comprehensive of a file system. I really want to create something extremely robust, that can be used in web

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote in message news:a5f019de0907090340k47216f7fh4d83434ef98ce...@mail.gmail.com... 2009/7/9 Tony Marston t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk: snip I thought of a better analogy. You ever been on the London Underground? There's a rule that says you stand on the right-hand

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote in message news:a5f019de0907090340k47216f7fh4d83434ef98ce...@mail.gmail.com... 2009/7/9 Tony Marston t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk: snip I thought of a better analogy. You ever

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote in message news:d7b6cab70907090623s6b37641dt90a564f1d80fe...@mail.gmail.com... On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote in message

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Eddie Drapkin
I called him intolerant because he jumps on issues which other people just don't care about. I called him small minded because he concentrates on small issues which simply don't matter in the great scheme of things. That sounds like fair comment to me It's just like those people who have

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote in message news:d7b6cab70907090623s6b37641dt90a564f1d80fe...@mail.gmail.com... On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Stuart

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Eddie Drapkin
I honestly think this is a case of the subject being broached in a less-than-super-friendly-with-hugs-and-butterflies way and someone getting unduly offended about that. Why not chill out and look at this objectively? Mailing lists are historically, as I'm sure you know, a nearly invaluable

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Still Learnin'
Tony Marston wrote: I called [Daniel] intolerant because he jumps on issues which other people just don't care about. By other people you can only mean yourself, since the number of people disagreeing with you here on this list keeps increasing. I called him small minded because he

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Govinda
my 2¢: Wherever/whenever the feeling level has been damaged, then/there communication stops. We can easily forget this in the dry environment of talking to computers.. but the important matter(s) will always come back to the *people* involved, sooner or later. Real power is measured in

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 09:54, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: I called him intolerant because he jumps on issues which other people just don't care about. Point #1: You're obviously wrong, as this thread has already received more replies than most on-topic, PHP-centric

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Bob McConnell
A quick search on Google indicates this argument has been active in various forums for over ten years, so I don't expect it to be resolved here. While ego is the most apparent motivator in these discussions I suspect, but have no way to confirm, that the two camps are divided by how their

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Eddie Drapkin oorza...@gmail.com wrote in message news:68de37340907090705y5b095f8cy68ba0d416b045...@mail.gmail.com... I called him intolerant because he jumps on issues which other people just don't care about. I called him small minded because he concentrates on small issues which simply

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Jason
-Original Message- From: Bob McConnell [mailto:r...@cbord.com] Sent: 09 July 2009 15:38 To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies) [snip] Bob McConnell A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote in message news:d7b6cab70907090705i1575fe0ft21a2cc82c992b...@mail.gmail.com... On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Bastien Koert phps...@gmail.com wrote in message

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread tedd
At 9:39 AM +0100 7/9/09, Tony Marston wrote: -snip- (Nothing important) While you don't have any regard for rules, we do. We simply ask that the rules be followed for reasons that are not without foundation and rules that are customary for list such as this. Your juvenile statement of: No,

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies) WOT

2009-07-09 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I've decided. It doesn't work for me. End of story. [/snip] This has become way off topic (call me a Nazi if you will :)) and has not, until now, been appropriately marked in the subject line. Mr. Marston has posted here for a long time and has always had a burr up his butt about rules.

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies) WOT

2009-07-09 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] No, I don't like stupid rules, which is why I choose not to obey them. [/snip] Shall I point out the irony here? http://www.tonymarston.net/aboutme/experiences.html in which you post a truckload of rules. And this which is posted among your Thoughts Words Nobody trips over mountains.

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote in message news:ab5568160907090729j4c2cc67esff2823dcb493d...@mail.gmail.com... On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 09:54, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: I called him intolerant because he jumps on issues which other people just don't care about.

[PHP] Re: SESSION variables: How much is too much?

2009-07-09 Thread tedd
At 7:30 PM -0400 7/8/09, D.M.Jackson wrote: Thanks guys. I was just wondering if it was common practice to pass all those variables in the SESSION object or if I was following a bad example because it was the first time that I had seen so many variables passed this way. If this is the typical

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:57, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Violating a license agreement is against the law, top posting is not. Laws are rules set forth by mortal man. I have the right by your own word to choose not to obey this particular one. Your arguments hold

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 16:57 +0100, Tony Marston wrote: It's stupid because there is no valid reason as to why top posting is *bad*. It has existed on the internet ever since there was an internet, so for someone to stand up and say I don't like this, so I'll make a rule agains it it just

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Still Learnin'
Tony Marston wrote: I have no respect for anyone who wastes time in trying to force others to obey their petty rules. ... The whole point about this particlar rule is that it has no purpose other than to force everybody to conform to somebody's idea of perfection. You've been told more

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread HallMarc Websites
/unsub.php __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4229 (20090709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Having just come in to the particular thread, I actually have work that keeps me away from here, I'm

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote in message news:1247162816.3514.17.ca...@localhost.localdomain... On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 16:57 +0100, Tony Marston wrote: It's stupid because there is no valid reason as to why top posting is *bad*. It has existed on the internet ever since

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Bob McConnell
From: HallMarc Websites Having just come in to the particular thread, I actually have work that keeps me away from here, I'm wondering why this is worth the energy and time I have seen wasted on this subject. Seems to me everyone needs to take a deep breath and a step back. As far as anyone

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread tedd
At 2:22 PM -0400 7/9/09, HallMarc Websites wrote: As far as anyone going against convention, seems to me that people who think outside the box, go against convention, break the rules, whatever are the ones who keep life interesting and occasionally help us find something new. I would hate to

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread tedd
At 2:38 PM -0400 7/9/09, Bob McConnell wrote: It will be even more interesting to see if anyone on this list pays any attention to him in the future. Bob McConnell Bob: You won't have to wonder about me. I've already set email filters to trash any incoming from him. A *few* on this list

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Scotta
Hi all I haven't read any post from here. I want to read PHP threads. is this going somewhere? I think not. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, teddtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:38 PM -0400 7/9/09, Bob McConnell wrote: It will be even more interesting to see if anyone on this list pays

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote in message news:ff8482a96323694490c194babeac24a0049ad...@email.cbord.com... From: HallMarc Websites Having just come in to the particular thread, I actually have work that keeps me away from here, I'm wondering why this is worth the energy and time I have

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote in message news:p06240800c67be78e3...@[192.168.1.101]... At 2:22 PM -0400 7/9/09, HallMarc Websites wrote: As far as anyone going against convention, seems to me that people who think outside the box, go against convention, break the rules, whatever are the

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thursday 09 July 2009 20:50:59 Tony Marston wrote: Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote in message news:ff8482a96323694490c194babeac24a0049ad...@email.cbord.com... From: HallMarc Websites Having just come in to the particular thread, I actually have work that keeps me away from here,

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Still Learnin' ssski...@gmail.com wrote in message news:4a5641d1.9040...@gmail.com... Tony Marston wrote: I have no respect for anyone who wastes time in trying to force others to obey their petty rules. ... The whole point about this particlar rule is that it has no purpose other than

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Still Learnin'
Tony Marston wrote: You've been told more than twice, it isn't an arbitrary rule. It isn't a petty rule. It isn't about perfection. It is arbitrary. It is petty. It is about someone's idea of perfection. One of us clearly manifests a reality gap. How many people do you have siding with your

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
My sincerest apologies. I have been a complete jackass this entire time and every single one of you has been correct. From this point forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to. You see, I have been struggling with defining my sexual identity and trying to

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Bastien Koert
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Tony Marstont...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote:        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to.    

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread tedd
At 9:03 PM +0100 7/9/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: Also, I'd hardly call anyone here a jumped-up pipsqueak just because we aren't too old to go by new rules. The only reason I'm bringing your age into this is because you keep mentioning your last 30 years online on mailing lists. There are older

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:55, teddtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: Now, do I remember email? No not really. As I understand it, email came about under ARPANET and converted to the Internet in the early 80's. So unless he has been doing email and participating on something other than what's

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Daniel Brown
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:47, Bastien Koertphps...@gmail.com wrote:        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to. Heh.

[PHP] GD to IMAGEMAGICK

2009-07-09 Thread TS
Hello. I have this code and the getFrame returns a GD truecolor image. However, I want to convert to imagemagick after I get that frame from ffmpeg. Here's my code: // GRAB A FRAME FROM THE VIDEO FOR A THUMB VIEW $video = new ffmpeg_movie($data_temp, false); $frame = $video-getFrame(90);

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
This post did not come from me. The headers contain this: Received: from [74.54.247.2] ([74.54.247.2:59280] helo=mail.caracol-cream.com) Very funny. -- (the real) Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org (the fake) Tony Marston t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk wrote in

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Marston
Still Learnin' ssski...@gmail.com wrote in message news:4a565c73.8090...@gmail.com... Tony Marston wrote: You've been told more than twice, it isn't an arbitrary rule. It isn't a petty rule. It isn't about perfection. It is arbitrary. It is petty. It is about someone's idea of perfection.

[PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread Govinda
The atmosphere is weird now so you all may think I am out there. . but this is a sincere question- (and not due to dumb oversight of my HTML code) I have a mysterious f character (Yes, just the letter f ) appearing in my HTML between these two seemingly benign HTMl tags: My source file

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thursday 09 July 2009 22:00:14 Daniel Brown wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:47, Bastien Koertphps...@gmail.com wrote:        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point forward I vow to keep my

Re: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread Phpster
On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: The atmosphere is weird now so you all may think I am out there. . but this is a sincere question- (and not due to dumb oversight of my HTML code) I have a mysterious f character (Yes, just the letter f )

RE: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread HallMarc Websites
-Original Message- From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:55 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net; a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk Subject: Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies) At 9:03 PM +0100 7/9/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:

RE: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread HallMarc Websites
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[PHP] Trying to complie a libphp5.so

2009-07-09 Thread The Doctor
Just tried to do so on php-5.2.8 and php-5.3.0 All I get is Build complete. Don't forget to run 'make test'. doctor.nl2k.ab.ca//usr/source/php-5.3.0$ make install Installing PHP SAPI module: apache2handler /var/www/build/instdso.sh SH_LIBTOOL='/var/www/build/libtool' libphp5.la

Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)

2009-07-09 Thread PJ
Tony Marston wrote: There are too many people in this newsgroup with the idea that you MUST obey the rules, whatever they are, WITHOUT QUESTION. I do not subscribe to this notion. I have been working in IT (or DP as it was originally called) for over 30 years, and in that time I have

Re: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread Eric Wood
Govinda wrote: I have a mysterious f character (Yes, just the letter f ) appearing in my HTML between these two seemingly benign HTMl tags: On same computer, do a view source in other browsers too - IE, Chrome, Safari etc. F still there? There could be a FireFox addon module

Re: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Phpster wrote: On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote: The atmosphere is weird now so you all may think I am out there. . but this is a sincere question- (and not due to dumb oversight of my HTML code) I have a mysterious f character (Yes, just the

RE: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread HallMarc Websites
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Re: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread Govinda
problem was solved, it was just a simple typo and sometimes all it takes is a fresh pair of eyes. The confusing part comes in when it prints to the screen and your mind looks in that area of the code and finds nothing because it actually somewhere else and because it is outside of a tag the

Re: [PHP] mysterious f character appearing. Why??

2009-07-09 Thread Michael A. Peters
HallMarc Websites wrote: problem was solved, it was just a simple typo and sometimes all it takes is a fresh pair of eyes. The confusing part comes in when it prints to the screen and your mind looks in that area of the code and finds nothing LOL - I wanted to display generated XML on

Re: [PHP] Re: SESSION variables: How much is too much?

2009-07-09 Thread D.M.Jackson
Hi, OK, I did a count on the session.inc file and there appears to be 37 variables accessed through the $_SESSION object. By and large they all appear to be scalar variables that contain a counter or a path or a boolean. Nothing that looks like a big object. Mostly stuff like

[PHP] DOMDocument saveHTML() configurable?

2009-07-09 Thread Michael A. Peters
The $dom-saveHTML() function does a pretty good job of knowing what tags are not closed - IE it does br, meta, param, etc. correctly. Is there a way to add a tag without children to it's database? Specifically I'm talking about the new source tag from HTML 5 that is being used to embed

[PHP] HTTP headers and include()

2009-07-09 Thread James Colannino
Hey everyone, I've been hard at work on a new web application, and discovered something that I would never have seen coming. I was noticing that when I called session_start() after a few lines of includes, I was getting complaints because the HTTP headers had already been sent out. Then, after

Re: [PHP] HTTP headers and include()

2009-07-09 Thread Eddie Drapkin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:21 AM, James Colanninoja...@colannino.org wrote: Hey everyone, I've been hard at work on a new web application, and discovered something that I would never have seen coming.  I was noticing that when I called session_start() after a few lines of includes, I was

Re: [PHP] HTTP headers and include()

2009-07-09 Thread Michael A. Peters
James Colannino wrote: Hey everyone, I've been hard at work on a new web application, and discovered something that I would never have seen coming. I was noticing that when I called session_start() after a few lines of includes, I was getting complaints because the HTTP headers had already