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Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

Eriksson <ja...@aurorasystems.eu> wrote: > You are welcome to. I have been exploring Lua lately and have been longing > to do some PicoLisp again. Lua is nice but it ain't no Lisp. :) > > 24 apr. 2016 kl. 11:31 skrev Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com>: > > I mi

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

ht help out too! :-) > > 24 apr. 2016 kl. 09:50 skrev Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com>: > > Well, that answers a lot, thanks. Textures are great, but not the end, but > X11 would have to go, since that would only work on Linux and Mac? How hard > do you think it would be to re

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

, and networking out of the box. Still trying to figure if it is easy to get SDL2 working with miniPicoLisp...sans networking. Rob On 24 April 2016 at 14:38, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 09:46:28AM +0700, Robert Herman wrote: > > I thin

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

Scratch that! I am getting senile. I went back to 7/2015, when I asked similar questions to you, and you put an article on the site on rcsim! It's working now...I am getting old! Rob On 24 April 2016 at 09:52, Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just tried to run rcsim.l on

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

(++)"))) > (z3dSync) (let M (*/ (usec) 1000) (setq "MSec" (- M (set (cdr R) (min -2 (- > M "MSec" 20 > : !? (sim> *Scene) > sim> -- Bad message > ? Thanks! Rob On 24 April 2016 at 09:46, Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com> wrote: &

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

Thanks, I'll have a look when I get home. Rob On Apr 23, 2016 14:59, "Alexander Burger" <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 02:29:18PM +0800, Robert Herman wrote: > > I'd love to use full PicoLisp, because it is still small, but it is POSIX > &g

new crypto things

I am glad Cat asked about a git, since I was only aware of the download site. Is this a semi-official repository, since I see Alex has made commits? Is that a Retro implementation I see there? Is the image file only for Linux PicoLisp RetroForth? Cool... I see you also have Touretzky's code from

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

is targeting multi-platform, so I think there is a niche for PicoLisp here too. Rob [1] http://8th-dev.com/ [2] http://www.red-lang.org/ On 22 April 2016 at 15:27, Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com> wrote: > At first, I only wish to create something quick, so I am ready for the > game ja

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

ple to embed minipico into any framework > which can be used with plain C. So that should open up Android > and iOS too. Although never underestimate the practical troubles > with compiling on 4 platforms if you are only one developer. :) > > Been there, done that. :) > > // Jako

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

All true Alex and Jakob. I am not trying to develop something professional, so that leaves me two choices: 1. Implement a very simple framework, and handcraft all of the requirements it in miniPicoLisp (thx Christophe! I had put it aside for a year and forgot) that wraps SDL2, which is C-based,

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All true. I am not trying to develop something professional, so that leaves two choices: 1. Implement a very simple framework, and handcraft all of the requirements it in miniPicoLisp (thx Christophe! I had put it aside for a year and forgot) that wraps SDL2, which is C-based, and then I can

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

interfaces. I am not designer, but look at some minimal GUI toolkits that run on top of OpenGL or SDL2 like https://github.com/vurtun/nuklear Rob On 19 April 2016 at 16:20, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:29:13AM +0700, Robert Herman wrote: > >

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

, 2016, Mike Pechkin <mike.pech...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','a...@software-lab.de');>> wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 08:35:04PM +0700, Robert Herman w

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

Yes, simul.l. I need to sleep! I'll also investigate HTML idiosyncrasies more this week. It cannot be ignored in today's world. But, to do a desktop app, has SDL2, or the older SDL lib been wrapped for picoLisp, or is there an advantage of handling this natively with picoLisp? Any information

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 12:20:42AM +0700, Robert Herman wrote: > > That did it, Alex. Now onto looking at the libs to see what has been > > implemented in HTML5 Canvas. > > Good. The function list can be easily exten

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

to install picoLisp? I'm not a web guy, if you havn't noticed ;) Rob On 16 April 2016 at 21:23, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 08:50:22PM +0700, Robert Herman wrote: > > There is hope yet! > > It works, and I get up to 420 H

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

it with pgrep or htop. Thanks! Rob On 16 April 2016 at 19:32, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 07:02:57PM +0700, Robert Herman wrote: > > Cool. I am only getting around 2.80 Hz maximum over my 3G/4G WiFi > hotspot. > > I usually see 150 KBs t

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

Cool. I am only getting around 2.80 Hz maximum over my 3G/4G WiFi hotspot. I usually see 150 KBs to 300 KBs (1.2 to 2.5 mb/s). I cannot run the example locally for some strange reason. I had the rectangle example working earlier. Does this example require running httpGate too? I kind of know what

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

! Regards, Rob On 15 April 2016 at 23:33, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 08:35:04PM +0700, Robert Herman wrote: > > Hey, everyone, I am thinking on participating in the Lisp Game Jam coming > > up in just 13 days. > > > >

Re: Is this the right place for bugs / questions about PilOS?

Cat, Try an older version of qemu. If it works, you can try newer ones if they have features or bugs corrected that may affect you. I had the same problem, but thanks to Joe Bogner and Alex, I have it running. Here's the link to the older qemu that worked:

Re: HttpGate and picoLisp 64-bit

Yes, it worked! If you are doing the 64-bit build, Alex's suggestion of doing the (cd src; make tools gate) was just what was needed. Alex, none of the symbolic inks suggested in the INSTALL file have anything to do with X11, and all is working on my system, however, there is this weird symbolic

Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

Hey, everyone, I am thinking on participating in the Lisp Game Jam coming up in just 13 days. https://itch.io/jam/spring-2016-lisp-game-jam I invite all picolispers to try, so picolisp gets some love from the gaming community! I am more familiar with SBCL using SDL2 for game making, but I love

Re: HttpGate and picoLisp 64-bit

Thanks for clearing all of that up. The INSTALL instructions seem to indicate that you just do the (cd src64 ; make) in a 64-bit system. I thought the 32-bit src may not build correctly for the 64-bit systems. In addition, I believe it says you need to do a (cd src ; make all) on the website, if

HttpGate and picoLisp 64-bit

I gave up on picoLisp on Windows, and now only run it on my Linux box, and it is a lot smoother to say the least. I have built picoLisp 64-bit from source per the instructions, but there is no HttpGate in the bin directory. I see there is one in the 32-bit src directory. Does 64-bit handle it

Re: Compiling PicoLisp on MSYS2 and floating point math

My bad. I was only running the picolisp.exe, and worse, in an MSYS2 shell. I dropped Cygwin a while ago for my Windows box. I need to see if I can build picolisp in MSYS2. Hopefully the MS move to support some basic Linux functionality may help in future for building command line Linux apps? Even

Compiling PicoLisp on MSYS2 and floating point math

I have picolisp running on my linux dual-boot machine, and I have compiled picolisp on Cygwin on my Windows 10 box. The Cygwin version chokes on certain things, such as (load "@lib/math.l") produces: [lib/math.l:4] !? (scl 6) scl -- Undefined I changed math.l by commenting out as follows: #

Re: Booting PilOS

I had the same issue, and it was pointed out to me by Alex and Joe to try an older version of qemu. http://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp%40software-lab.de/msg05495.html I hope this helps you too. Rob On 2 November 2015 at 14:50, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi me, > > On

PilOS on 32-bit Arm Cortex-A9

I have a few TV sticks laying around running Android, but they have a microSD slot, which you can boot a Linux image from. I am thinking on learning ARM programming, since so many IOT devices, small netbooks and tablets use these processors. How hard would it be to turn the work on PilOS into a

Setting up PicoLisp on Linode

Anybody have any hints, leads or tips on getting PicoLisp running on a Linode server? I'd like to see if I can setup a PicoLisp-based site. I have no experience doing anything beyond command line REPL in PicoLisp, and the GUI tutorial. Thanks! Rob

Re: Possible host for PilOS

I will hope and look for a 64bit home for PilOS in the hardware world! How about the Qualcomm DragonBoard? It's a 4 core 64 bit beast. Rob On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 09:40:18AM +, George Orais wrote: Not just

Re: Open Sound Control

Also, Openmusic. It's a visual patcher, but it is built on Lisp, and you can write Lisp code for the patches and other items. http://support.ircam.fr/docs/om/om6-manual/co/Lisp.html On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Herman rpjher...@gmail.com

Re: Open Sound Control

I have come the long way round to PicoLisp, and I have been tinkering with livecoding (audio/video, not just programming) for fun. I started with fluxus: www.pawfal.org/fluxus/ It is a great environment where you code and 3D objects show behind your code, and you can drive their parameters from

Re: RcSim Article (Was: PilOS - File I/O and OpenGL)

Yes, thank you very much, Alex! I posted it on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9954773 I am amazed at what you have done and are doing with your creation! Rob On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 6:17 PM, andr...@itship.ch wrote: Great! Thanks Alex! - Original Message - From:

PilOS - File I/O and OpenGL

I tried saving a file (3dtext.l) to the misc directory in PilOS, but I could not see it when using the (dir misc). I am suspecting I need to write it and save it from within PilOS? How to add a library to PilOS such as the OpenGL one that is native to the 64bit PicoLisp distribution? Do you have

Re: PilOS

-setup-20150503.exe did not run for me Hope that helps On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Robert Herman rpjher...@gmail.com wrote: I tried several, and when I finally tried version 2.2.90 for windows 64 bit, It went past that error and went to a 'READ ERROR 09' Is that a 09h Attempt to DMA

Re: PilOS

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 08:30:01PM +0800, Robert Herman wrote: Is there a way to change a qemu bios file config? The man page of qemu-system says QEMU uses the PC BIOS from the Seabios project and the Plex86/Bochs

Re: Machine Learning in PicoLisp

I would welcome the results of your efforts, and contribute where I could, but I think it would be best to make calls to BLAS and LAPACK, since they are battle-tested. I am currently working my way through a book 'Handbook of Neuroevolution through Erlang', but I prefer Lisp. Erlang is just better

Re: PilOS

I tried several, and when I finally tried version 2.2.90 for windows 64 bit, It went past that error and went to a 'READ ERROR 09' Is that a 09h Attempt to DMA over 64kb boundary using the same Wiki reference you supplied in a previous posting? How can I fix it or keep moving on? Where do I look

Re: PilOS

Wow, thanks. It's trying to read in the entire thing 670kb of PicoLisp. I'll try other versions of qemu. There are a few between this one and the others that failed. Is there a way to change a qemu bios file config? Could I change beg.l to load it in segments, or would it still require a 670kb

Re: Machine Learning in PicoLisp

GMT-07:00 Robert Herman rpjher...@gmail.com: I would welcome the results of your efforts, and contribute where I could, but I think it would be best to make calls to BLAS and LAPACK, since they are battle-tested. I am currently working my way through a book 'Handbook of Neuroevolution through

Re: PilOS

Alex, First, I would like to donate some money anyway, seeing how much fun I have had with PicoLisp and PilOS. Second, I get a 'Guest has not initialized the display (yet).' when trying to run PilOS in qemu on my i5 Windows 8.1 64bit machine. Any steps I am missing? I am a qemu newbie, and PilOS