Re: [PEDA] Updating parts in cache
Thanks Wojciech, that seems to work fine. Mike. |-+> | | Wojciech Oborski | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | ice.pl> | | || | | 12-Nov-2003 09:58| | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | "Protel EDA | | | Forum" | | || |-+> >--| | | | To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [PEDA] Updating parts in cache | >----------| Michael Binning wrote: > > Hello all, > > Does anybody know if it is possible to update a single component in a > schematic, rather than all of the together? > Open your schematic document, highlight the component in a list (under Browse Sch Tab in Design Manager panel) and click Edit. In Schematic Library Editor click Update Schematics button (under components list) - it should update the component definition in all opened schematics. I say "it should update" because this process is not 100% reliable (sometimes the component is not updated) - there was a discussion on the Forum and there were some suggestions how to ensure that the update is actually performed - - I don't remember the details. Wojciech Oborski * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Updating parts in cache
Hello all, Does anybody know if it is possible to update a single component in a schematic, rather than all of the together? The reason I ask, is that a little while ago we started using the part fields, and as such have named the fields in the libraries. The problem is that I recently added a few parts to a library, which were then used, but had forgotten to set the field names. Now that I have named them, I cannot use the update all parts in cache, as there is at least one part on the sheet which has since been updated in the library under the same name. I have found one way around it, which is to delete the part, close Protel to clear the cache, and then reopen and replace the component, but this is a little long winded, and should I have to do a few in the future, it would be nice to know a simpler method. Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518012 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] NetMeeting
Hello all, Has anybody tried sharing Protel 99SE over NetMeeting? We are trying to do it my company, so that anybody logged into the meeting can see the design, but NetMeeting does not seem to like Protel. Once I have NetMeeting engaged, I can only do the most basic functions in Protel, like zooming, flicking between sheets. Anything more causes a major crash in Protel, sometimes requiring a reboot to recover. Has anybody see or heard of this before? Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518012 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Part Field entries
Thanks. Thats just what I was looking for. Mike. |-+> | | "John A. Ross| | | [Design]"| | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | || | | 07-Oct-2003 01:33| | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | "Protel EDA | | | Forum" | | || |-+> >--| | | | To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [PEDA] Part Field entries | >----------| > -Original Message- > From: Michael Binning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:25 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Part Field entries > > What I am specificly after, John, is an entry in the string > like "Part Field 1=Metal Film" > > I have searched everywhere, and tried many ideas, but can't > find the correct way to do it. Ah, I see Then you need to add as follows Process Sch:PlacePart Parameters PartType=100K |LibReference=0805 RESISTOR | Orientation=0 | Description1=metal film | Description2=1% | Description3=0.01 and so on The Descriptionx= parameter, where the x is a value from 1-16 will place the string you specify to the Parts Fields as needed I already have these defined in the read only fields with the libray parts so I only really need a button to pick the part from the library and set a default value. John > > Mike. > > > > |-+> > | | "John A. Ross| > | | [Design]"| > | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | || > | | 07-Oct-2003 12:14| > | | PM | > | | Please respond to| > | | "Protel EDA | > | | Forum" | > | || > |-+> > > >- > -| > | >| > | To: "Protel EDA Forum" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > | cc: >| > | Subject: Re: [PEDA] Part Field entries >| > > >- > -| > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Michael Binning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:53 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: [PEDA] Part Field entries > > > > Hello all, > > > > I hope somebody can help me out with this one. > > > > I have created a button in one of my toolbars for placing > resistors, > > based on the ones in the Digital toolbar. > > > > As standard is sets the Designator to "R?", and the Part Type to > > "value". > > > > What I also want it to do is set several of the Part Fields, but > > cannot work out how to do it. > > > > Does anybody know the keywords I need? > > Mike > > Here is an extract from an old .rcs file of mine with a basic > toolbar. Is this the stuff you want? > > You wont find reference to some buttons in the > /system/buttons folder as I drew them myself so they make sense. > > I am redrawing a new set of bmp toolbar buttons for DXP just now. > > (under ToolBar 'SchematicTools') > > Parts > > Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP001.BMP' > 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=10N > | LibReference=chip capacitor | Orientation=0 | > Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=0805|$Description=10N)' > Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP01.BMP' > 'Sch:PlacePart(Par
Re: [PEDA] Part Field entries
What I am specificly after, John, is an entry in the string like "Part Field 1=Metal Film" I have searched everywhere, and tried many ideas, but can't find the correct way to do it. Mike. |-+> | | "John A. Ross| | | [Design]"| | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | || | | 07-Oct-2003 12:14| | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | "Protel EDA | | | Forum" | | || |-+> >--| | | | To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [PEDA] Part Field entries | >----------| > -Original Message- > From: Michael Binning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:53 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Part Field entries > > Hello all, > > I hope somebody can help me out with this one. > > I have created a button in one of my toolbars for placing > resistors, based on the ones in the Digital toolbar. > > As standard is sets the Designator to "R?", and the Part Type > to "value". > > What I also want it to do is set several of the Part Fields, > but cannot work out how to do it. > > Does anybody know the keywords I need? Mike Here is an extract from an old .rcs file of mine with a basic toolbar. Is this the stuff you want? You wont find reference to some buttons in the /system/buttons folder as I drew them myself so they make sense. I am redrawing a new set of bmp toolbar buttons for DXP just now. (under ToolBar 'SchematicTools') Parts Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP001.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=10N | LibReference=chip capacitor | Orientation=0 | Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=0805|$Description=10N)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP01.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=100N | LibReference=chip capacitor | Orientation=0 | Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=0805|$Description=100N)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP10.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=10U/25 | LibReference=elect cap | Orientation=0 | Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=radial capacitor 5 x 6 mm|$Description=10U/25)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP22.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=22U/25 | LibReference=elect cap | Orientation=0 | Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=radial capacitor 5 x 6 mm|$Description=22U/25)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP47.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=47U/25 | LibReference=elect cap | Orientation=0 | Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=radial capacitor 5 x 7 mm|$Description=47U/25)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\CAP100.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=100U/10 | LibReference=elect cap | Orientation=0 | Designator=C?|FOOTPRINT=radial capacitor 5 x 7 mm|$Description=100U/10)' Separator Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\RES1K.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=1K | LibReference=0805 RESISTOR | FOOTPRINT=0805|Orientation=0 | Designator=R? |$Description=1K)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\RES4K7.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=4K7 | LibReference=0805 RESISTOR | FOOTPRINT=0805|Orientation=0 | Designator=R? |$Description=4K7)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\RES10K.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=10K | LibReference=0805 RESISTOR | FOOTPRINT=0805|Orientation=0 | Designator=R? |$Description=10K)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\RES47K.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=47K | LibReference=0805 RESISTOR | FOOTPRINT=0805|Orientation=0 | Designator=R? |$Description=47K)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\RES100K.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePart(PartType=100K | LibReference=0805 RESISTOR | FOOTPRINT=0805|Orientation=0 | Designator=R? |$Description=100K)' Separator Power ports Separator Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\POARWHGND.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePowerPort(Color=111|Orientation=3|S=HGND|Style = 3|$Description=GND power port)' Button 'C:\P99SE\SYSTEM\BUTTONS\POARWAGND.BMP' 'Sch:PlacePowerPort(Color=111|Orientation=3|S=AGND|
Re: [PEDA] Keepouts
No, Protel 99SE does have layer specific keep out tracks. You can either place a track on the keep out layer, in which case it will affect all layers, or a keep out track on a specific layer, in which case it will only affect copper on that layer. Mike. |-+> | | "John A. Ross| | | [Design]"| | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | || | | 07-Oct-2003 12:09| | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | "Protel EDA | | | Forum" | | || |-+> >--| | | | To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [PEDA] Keepouts | >--| > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEDA] Keepouts > > Hi, > I wish to prevent a polygon from pouring in a certain area. > I have used a fill as a keepout on that layer, but I then get > DRC errors showing shorts where I have put the fill over > tracks. I also get DRC clearance errors where the fill is > under a component. Is there a neater way of doing this so it > comes up DRC clean? Dave As far as I know P99SE does not support layer specific keep outs like DXP does. If you place a keep out it will generate errors for any primitive violating it. Generally it is better to draw the polygon vertices around the area using the polygon vertices as your keepout definition (if you see what I mean) and have a suitable tie point somewhere using a fill or similar. Unless someone has a more elegant solution Best Regards John A. Ross RSD Communications ltd Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWWhttp://www.rsd.tv == > > Regards > > Dave > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Part Field entries
Hello all, I hope somebody can help me out with this one. I have created a button in one of my toolbars for placing resistors, based on the ones in the Digital toolbar. As standard is sets the Designator to "R?", and the Part Type to "value". What I also want it to do is set several of the Part Fields, but cannot work out how to do it. Does anybody know the keywords I need? Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518012 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Keepouts
If you use a keep out track perimetering the area you want clear, you will get the same effect, providing there are no points the polygon can net onto within that area. Mike. |-+> | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | ink.com | | || | | 07-Oct-2003 11:33| | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | "Protel EDA | | | Forum" | | || |-+> >--| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: [PEDA] Keepouts | >--| Hi, I wish to prevent a polygon from pouring in a certain area. I have used a fill as a keepout on that layer, but I then get DRC errors showing shorts where I have put the fill over tracks. I also get DRC clearance errors where the fill is under a component. Is there a neater way of doing this so it comes up DRC clean? Regards Dave * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up
Thanks to all who replied. Though I never really found the problem, I have managed to cure it. I reduced the hardware acceleration on the graphics card by a couple of notches. It effectively disables all advanced features. Not really ideal, but it has not had any detrimental affects. Thanks, Mike. "Brian Guralnick" deotron.ca> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up 17-Jan-2003 04:35 PM Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" I say that if it's nothing else, it would be the old (Video card/Sound card/USB) driver interrupt bug which used to creep into many systems in the past. If you are using NVIDIA, get the latest detonator 40x drivers & get Creative lab's latest drivers... Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up
Professional, and the > machine seems to keep locking up temporarily. > > The lockups affect the whole machine, last about 5 seconds, > and are quite frequent. > > It seems to happen whilst I am in the middle of doing things, > eg placing a track, as opposed to locking between me doing things. > > Has anybody seen this problem before, or have any ideas how > to stop it? > > It ran fine on my old 95 machine, and runs fine on my > collegues 2k machines. > > Thanks, > > Mike. > > Michael Binning > Zarlink Semiconductor > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.zarlink.com > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up
John, I tried disabling the network card through the device manager, but it did not stop the lockups. The Network card is a 3Com as well. Mike. "John A. Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 08-Jan-2003 04:57Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up PM Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:31 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up > > The odd thing is that the setup I have is nearly the same as > a collegue, who does not have the same problem. > > The only other info I can add is that I am running a P2 and > see the problem. I have one collegue running a P3 and seeing > the problem. Everybody else is running P4's, and they don't > have any problems. > > My old setup was on a P2 with Win95, and though it was full > of bugs, it never froze like this. Mike, the notebook I see the same symptoms on is a Compaq Armada 7800 PII-366MHz machine and it uses a Netgear PCMCIA NIC. I just tried it with a 3Com PCMCIA NIC and I do not see the problem on same notebook. Have you tried just disabling the NIC in your HW profile to seee if the symptoms go away? BTW if Gary passes your desk ask him to call me. Best Regards John A. Ross RSD Communications ltd Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWWhttp://www.rsd.tv == > > Wierd, and annoying. > > Mike. > > > > > > > "Dave Adams" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >cc: > > > 08-Jan-2003 04:08Subject: Re: > [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up > > PM > > > Please respond to > > > "Protel EDA > > > Forum" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael, > > Make sure your swap file is a minimum of 1GB. I ran it on a > 2000 Pro machine and had similar problems until I changed my > swap file to 1GB. > > Dave Adams > Electronics Design Engineer > Safco Corporation > 5404 Touhy Ave. > Skokie, Il 60077 > Phone: (847)677-3204 > Fax : ( 847)677-4970 > Cell: (630)460-3720 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:46 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up > > > > Hello all, > > I am running Protel99SE on Win2k Professional, and the > machine seems to keep locking up temporarily. > > The lockups affect the whole machine, last about 5 seconds, > and are quite frequent. > > It seems to happen whilst I am in the middle of doing things, > eg placing a track, as opposed to locking between me doing things. > > Has anybody seen this problem before, or have any ideas how > to stop it? > > It ran fine on my old 95 machine, and runs fine on my > collegues 2k machines. > > Thanks, > > Mike. > > Michael Binning > Zarlink Semiconductor > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.zarlink.com > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up
The odd thing is that the setup I have is nearly the same as a collegue, who does not have the same problem. The only other info I can add is that I am running a P2 and see the problem. I have one collegue running a P3 and seeing the problem. Everybody else is running P4's, and they don't have any problems. My old setup was on a P2 with Win95, and though it was full of bugs, it never froze like this. Wierd, and annoying. Mike. "Dave Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 08-Jan-2003 04:08Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up PM Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" Michael, Make sure your swap file is a minimum of 1GB. I ran it on a 2000 Pro machine and had similar problems until I changed my swap file to 1GB. Dave Adams Electronics Design Engineer Safco Corporation 5404 Touhy Ave. Skokie, Il 60077 Phone: (847)677-3204 Fax : ( 847)677-4970 Cell: (630)460-3720 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:46 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up Hello all, I am running Protel99SE on Win2k Professional, and the machine seems to keep locking up temporarily. The lockups affect the whole machine, last about 5 seconds, and are quite frequent. It seems to happen whilst I am in the middle of doing things, eg placing a track, as opposed to locking between me doing things. Has anybody seen this problem before, or have any ideas how to stop it? It ran fine on my old 95 machine, and runs fine on my collegues 2k machines. Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning Zarlink Semiconductor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up
John, I set them to false, but to no avail. Either the new service packs have not only removed the tick boxes, but also ignore the ini file, or I have another problem. Thanks, Mike. "John A. Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 08-Jan-2003 12:41Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up PM Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" > Hello all, > > I am running Protel99SE on Win2k Professional, and the > machine seems to keep locking up temporarily. > > The lockups affect the whole machine, last about 5 seconds, > and are quite frequent. > > It seems to happen whilst I am in the middle of doing things, > eg placing a track, as opposed to locking between me doing things. > > Has anybody seen this problem before, or have any ideas how > to stop it? > > It ran fine on my old 95 machine, and runs fine on my > collegues 2k machines. Mike I have had similar issues on my notebook when unplugged from LAN. Every few minutes or so the cursor would freeze for 20 secs or so then continue as if nothing happenned. Disabling the network card when unplugged from the LAN stopped this. There used to be an option for disabling broadcast/receive for the licencing but the check boxes dissappeared in an early service pack but they are still in the client.ini Broadcast Access Code=True Receive Access Code=True I know in your work enviroment you will be connected all the time, but it sounds like exactly the same symptoms as I experienced. Try setting to false, assuming that the security manager will not just 'ignore' these settings as the check boxes, I assume, were removed for good reason. Best Regards John A. Ross RSD Communications ltd Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW http://www.rsd.tv == > > Thanks, > > Mike. > > Michael Binning > Zarlink Semiconductor > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.zarlink.com > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up
Hello all, I am running Protel99SE on Win2k Professional, and the machine seems to keep locking up temporarily. The lockups affect the whole machine, last about 5 seconds, and are quite frequent. It seems to happen whilst I am in the middle of doing things, eg placing a track, as opposed to locking between me doing things. Has anybody seen this problem before, or have any ideas how to stop it? It ran fine on my old 95 machine, and runs fine on my collegues 2k machines. Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning Zarlink Semiconductor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Bizzare and Repeatable
There is a way around this bug. Open the Client99SE.ini file with a text editor (windows or WINNT directory), find the entry DisplaySplashScreen=True, and change it to False. Protel will not show the logo on startup, and the minimise bug will disappear. Mike. "Katinka Mills" To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Bizzare and Repeatable 30-Aug-2002 11:07 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" > -Original Message- > From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 30 August 2002 4:20 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Bizzare and Repeatable > > > This time, however, rather than wait for Protel to load, I hit the > "minimize" button while it still has its little Protel "Logo Box" in the > center of the screen, and is starting to load files, and it > dissappears into > the taskbar, so I can launch PowerDesk (or Explorer, or something else) so > that I can go directly to the other system and copy the netlist > to the local > drive before importing (to eliminate anything that may be be happening > because of the "import" across the network). This is a known bug (in the database IIRC) and it has to do with minimiseing protel suring loading. IIRC the fix is to wait for protel to load in and then minimise. Regards, Kat. ** K.A.Q. Electronics. Electronic and Software Engineering. Perth, Western Australia. Ph +61 (0) 419 923 731 ** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 21/08/2002 * Tracking #: A79CE65FEB3B1C4CB4BDDCC3A5B95F0A8FE470EF * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion
Oddly enough, I found that the copy and paste from PrintPreview nearly always caused problems with arcs becoming circles. Thats why I resorted to the slightly lower quality way of using the screen capture method. Mike. Wolfgang.Geier@ jumptec.deTo: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 15/07/2002Subject: Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion 11:10 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" Hi I simply use 'copy and paste' from PrintPreview to Word it works fine. >"Export as WMF" doesn't work, give me an "Exception Occured In >PCBPrint:PrintDocument...". >Probably, something wrong with my instaalation, but I don't have time to fix it >now. >Thanks everybody fo you help, but I don't have Acrobat and it seems to me a >little too complex solution. Wolfgang Geier JUMPtec AG PPC Embedded Components Brunnwiesenstrasse 16 D-94469 Deggendorf * Tracking #: F9590767500C5F4A8F6C77F6ABB9216E8CF438C0 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion
This is one thing that I have never found a good solution to. The best I have been able to come up with is this: Set the screen resolution to maximum. Ensure the PCB is suitable for landscape printing, rotating if necessary. Proceed to Print Preview and setup view as you wish it to look. Select Colur or Black and White in the Properties window as required. Turn off the explorer pane and Zoom All. Press the Print Screen button, and paste into a graphics package. Crop to size, rotate to original orientation if necessary, and save. Copy and paste into word. Hope this helps. Mike. "Yuriy Khapochkin" ermfg.com> cc: Subject: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion 10/07/2002 15:37 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" Does anybody know how to insert PPC (PCBPrint) image into Microsoft Word? I would appreciate any ideas better, than printing -> scanning. Yuriy Khapochkin. * Tracking #: A90690A739593B4B829B4449AA8525A82604F7AC * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Global changes in schematic libraries.
Hello all, Does anybody know how I can do a global change to the part field titles of all components in a library? I don't fancy the alternative; do them all, one by one. Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * Tracking #: 9F96023464EE7B4981C38B2ED00B6C3A2A5756A6 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] PCB defaults
Hello all, One thing has been bugging me for a while. Is it possible to change the PCB defaults? Every time I start a new PCB, I have to go round setting rules and stuff. Is there a way to get round this? Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] BOM ordering
Hello all, Does anybody know how to change the output order for the BOM generation from schematic? Currently it outputs in component value order. Can I change this? It would be beneficial if I could sort by component type for instance. Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Components on wrong side
Has anyone come across this problem lately. A collegue of mine was working on a PCB document. All components were showing correctly. The next day, whilst editing one, he found that it was now listed as being on the opposite layer to that which it was displaying on. Refreshing from the librbary just put it on the layer listed, and upset the design. It took ages to fix. I haven't come across a problem like this since the days of AdvPCB 2.8, when you could generate a library component on the wrong side. Any ideas? Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] startup window
The startup window can be disabled by editing the client99se.ini file in your Windows directory. Find the entry - DisplaySplashScreen=true, and set it to false. This will enable you to minimise Protel on startup. Mike. "Mira" oo.com> cc: Subject: [PEDA] startup window 15/05/2002 14:45 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" Hi, Normally i'm too patient when opening Protel but this time I had some other things to do and minimized the window. When I opened it again I saw the startup window "Protel... bla-bla" still displayed in the middle of my screen. I can jump from one document to the other but this window is always there and hides everything. Is this a bug? I know re-opening could solve the problem. Any other hints? Mira __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Print preview bug on Arcs
Dave, I have just tried creating a simple design using tracks in arc mode, as a test. Got to print preview OK, but as soon as I hit the print button, bye bye Protel. Locked solid. Most odd. Mike. David Watling To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25/04/2002 cc: 14:23Subject: Re: [PEDA] Print preview bug on Arcs(Document link: David Watling Old) Hi again, I have deleted and re- routed the arcs in the same way and the bug has evaporated. What a funny world we live in... Regards David Watling David.Watling@z arlink.comTo: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 25/04/2002Subject: [PEDA] Print preview bug on Arcs 12:05 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" I have just discovered a bug. When using the print-preview tool to print a PCB containing 'Arc-mode' tracking, it locks up the application and I have to re-start Protel. Otherwise, I have found the print preview tool to be almost excellent. 2 questions: Is this old news, or have I found something new? Is there any way of printing a PCB with 'Arc-mode' tracking? Regards David Watling * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Problem when generating BOM
There are two ways to generate a BOM. It can either be generated from the schematic, or the PCB. If you are using the CAM-Manager, it sounds as though you are generating from the PCB. If you have changed the schematic, without transfering the changes to the PCB, you will get the old value. There are two solutions. 1, transfer the changes to the PCB, and re-try. 2, generate the BOM from the schematic. Hope this helps. Mike. "Florian Finsterbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 19/03/2002 13:04:35 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: [PEDA] Problem when generating BOM I have a problem when generating the BOM with Protel-99SE-SP6: 1.) I have changed the value of a capacitor in the schematics (in the Part Type Field) 2.) Generating the BOM from the CAM-Manager 3.) When opening the BOM-File, the capacitor has the old value. But the timestamp shows that i'm viewing the new generated BOM. (The old BOM was closed before i've generated the new one) I've tried different things to get rid of this behaviour: - saving the schematic before generating the BOM - deleting the old BOM before generating the new one - closing and reopening the Project-File before generating the BOM - closing and reopening Protel - ... But the problem still remains. Any suggestions what i can do to get the actual BOM? Best regards, Florian Finsterbusch * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Win2000 problem
All sorted. Admin priveliges were set. It seems the designer in question turned on the autoplacer, and then didn't realise it had to be turned off. Once it was turned off, the components stopped wandering about. As for the libraries that would not load, that was because the network drive he was trying to access was not mapped, but being accessed via the My Network Places feature. It seems Protel cannot handle this Win2000 feature. Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/02/2002 15:49:56 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Win2000 problem In a message dated 2/18/2002 10:47:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have just installed 99SE on a Windows 2000 Professional computer. > > It seems to be doing some strange things. > > I have seen components move, by themselves, when the screen in refreshed. > > I have seen a board outline, on the keepout layer, disappear. > > And I am not able to add a library from a database. > > If I try to open that database, which is populated with libraries, each > window appears empty, and all libraries appear empty, bar a component_1. > > There is nothing wrong with the library database. It works beautifully on > our Win95 machines. > > Any ideas? Have people seen things like this before? > > One possibility would be a problem with access permissions. On W2K, you want to install (and probably use) Protel with full Administrator privileges. Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Win2000 problem
Hello all, I have just installed 99SE on a Windows 2000 Professional computer. It seems to be doing some strange things. I have seen components move, by themselves, when the screen in refreshed. I have seen a board outline, on the keepout layer, disappear. And I am not able to add a library from a database. If I try to open that database, which is populated with libraries, each window appears empty, and all libraries appear empty, bar a component_1. There is nothing wrong with the library database. It works beautifully on our Win95 machines. Any ideas? Have people seen things like this before? Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Exporting PCB libraries in 2.8 format
I tried that way, and 2.8 said that the format was not recognised. That said, I did manage to place all the componets on a PCB, save as 2.8, and make library within 2.8. It caused several problems though, mostly to do with component name lengths. I found out how to get around the lack of a "place all components" function. I selected all components in the lib, right-clicked and hit copy, as though I was going to paste into another lib, then hit paste in a PCB. All components appeared in the PCB. Odd, but effective. Thanks anyway. Mike. "Nick Piccinich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 14/02/2002 16:29:09 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting PCB libraries in 2.8 format Hi Mike, Open the library file. (.lib) FILE|SAVE COPY AS change format to PCB 3.0 If you are using database for your library/project file, change your autosave options under preferences so that your files are backedup externally to the database in the same directory as your .ddb. I don't know how well PCB 3.0 is going to work in PCB 2.8 . hope this helps, Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:00 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Exporting PCB libraries in 2.8 format Hello all. Can anybody help me with this problem? Most of our department has changed over to 99se, except one, who refuses to change over from PCB 2.8. As we now use a common set of libraries in a 99se database, I thought I would export the PCB libraries in 2.8 format, so that we all worked from the same library. This is where my problem arose. I cannot find an option to allow me to export the PCB libraries. You can do it with the PCBs, but not their respective libs. I thought of one way around this. Place all components from a lib into a PCB, save as 2.8, and make lib from PCB in 2.8. This is where I fell down again. It seems the "place all components in lib" function no longer exists. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Exporting PCB libraries in 2.8 format
Hello all. Can anybody help me with this problem? Most of our department has changed over to 99se, except one, who refuses to change over from PCB 2.8. As we now use a common set of libraries in a 99se database, I thought I would export the PCB libraries in 2.8 format, so that we all worked from the same library. This is where my problem arose. I cannot find an option to allow me to export the PCB libraries. You can do it with the PCBs, but not their respective libs. I thought of one way around this. Place all components from a lib into a PCB, save as 2.8, and make lib from PCB in 2.8. This is where I fell down again. It seems the "place all components in lib" function no longer exists. Any ideas? Thanks, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash
I don't believe it! Its stopped working again. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/01/2002 14:00:13 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash Yes! All working again. I reduced the Hardware acceleration by one notch, like you suggested Steve, and it works. Thanks, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/01/2002 13:20:09 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash In a message dated 1/22/2002 7:07:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Just in case it was of use, I noted the details of the illegal opeation. > There is a general protection fault with a driver called ATI2DRAE.DRV > (OpenGL ATI driver). I have not fiddled with my display drivers in months, > maybe even years. > I'd agree with your guess that the fault msg points to the display driver, but why it should suddenly show up is a mystery. However, ATI displays are also known to have problems with Protel. Have you installed anything recently which could have monkeyed with the display settings? Maybe the hardware acceleration setting? I don't remember the details any more, but I recall needing to download newer drivers from the ATI website, and also having to adjust the hardware acceleration a bit. As I recall, backing off a couple steps from maximum had no noticeable effect except that Protel then worked. However, I just checked that system, which is still intact even though I've moved on, and the display has hardware acceleration set to maximum, so maybe I'm remembering wrong. You say that you changed the default printer. Was the new default printer on and ready? Also, I'm wondering if the printer selection inside Protel is still looking at the original printer driver. Can you uninstall that printer driver to force Protel to look elsewhere? Or maybe go spelunking through the registry to find where Protel keeps its current printer settings for Schematic. I'm likely going to do a complete removal / reinstallation of Protel later today or at least this week to fix a problem of my own, unrelated (AFAIK) to what you're seeing, but if I turn up anything interesting, I'll let you know. Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash
Yes! All working again. I reduced the Hardware acceleration by one notch, like you suggested Steve, and it works. Thanks, Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/01/2002 13:20:09 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash In a message dated 1/22/2002 7:07:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Just in case it was of use, I noted the details of the illegal opeation. > There is a general protection fault with a driver called ATI2DRAE.DRV > (OpenGL ATI driver). I have not fiddled with my display drivers in months, > maybe even years. > I'd agree with your guess that the fault msg points to the display driver, but why it should suddenly show up is a mystery. However, ATI displays are also known to have problems with Protel. Have you installed anything recently which could have monkeyed with the display settings? Maybe the hardware acceleration setting? I don't remember the details any more, but I recall needing to download newer drivers from the ATI website, and also having to adjust the hardware acceleration a bit. As I recall, backing off a couple steps from maximum had no noticeable effect except that Protel then worked. However, I just checked that system, which is still intact even though I've moved on, and the display has hardware acceleration set to maximum, so maybe I'm remembering wrong. You say that you changed the default printer. Was the new default printer on and ready? Also, I'm wondering if the printer selection inside Protel is still looking at the original printer driver. Can you uninstall that printer driver to force Protel to look elsewhere? Or maybe go spelunking through the registry to find where Protel keeps its current printer settings for Schematic. I'm likely going to do a complete removal / reinstallation of Protel later today or at least this week to fix a problem of my own, unrelated (AFAIK) to what you're seeing, but if I turn up anything interesting, I'll let you know. Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash
Hi Steve,
I have tried changing the default printer. It had no effect.
I have also noticed that Protel has slowed down considerably, especially
when opening documents.
Just in case it was of use, I noted the details of the illegal opeation.
There is a general protection fault with a driver called ATI2DRAE.DRV
(OpenGL ATI driver). I have not fiddled with my display drivers in months,
maybe even years.
This is getting annoying.
Mike.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 22/01/2002 11:29:39
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash
In a message dated 1/22/2002 5:40:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am inclined to say its not the printer drivers if the PCBs print out
OK.
>
I'm not sure I'd make that assumption, as Sch is known to be very fussy
about
print drivers. Just try setting your default system printer to something
else
("generic text printer" maybe) and see if that changes the behavior.
Steve Hendrix
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Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash
OK, I haven't tried the printer drivers, as suggested by others, but here are a few more puzzling details. If I open up a database, and try printing a PCB, it works. If I then try a schematic, I get an illegal operation dialog box, and Protel dies. The computer has been power-cycled, and re-booted several times. I am inclined to say its not the printer drivers if the PCBs print out OK. Any ideas? Mike "Andy Gulliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 21/01/2002 16:57:16 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash I usually find that if Protel has got into this sort of routine, then it's time to re-boot the PC (often needing power-cycling, just to make sure). The same applies with Windows 2000, although it's not needed nearly as often as with 95! Regards Andy Gulliver > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 21 January 2002 16:37 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash > > > > > Hello all, > > Can somebody help me with this one? > > Since about half way through today, every time I try to print something > from Protel, I get a dialog box saying that Protel has performed > an illegal > operation, and that the program will be shut down. > > I have tried restarting the program, but I cannot get it to work. > > Any ideas? This is Protel99SE on Win95. > > Thanks in anticipation, > > Mike. > > Michael Binning > (Applications Engineer) > Zarlink Semiconductor > Cheney Manor Ind. Est. > Swindon > Wiltshire > SN2 2QW > Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 > Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Illegal Operation crash
Hello all, Can somebody help me with this one? Since about half way through today, every time I try to print something from Protel, I get a dialog box saying that Protel has performed an illegal operation, and that the program will be shut down. I have tried restarting the program, but I cannot get it to work. Any ideas? This is Protel99SE on Win95. Thanks in anticipation, Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Let Me Out Of Here!!!!
I had a similar problem recently when my company changed its name, and therefore the email address. I sorted it by emailing the List Manager (address in message footer), and he removed my subscription, allowing me to re-subscribe under my new address. Hope this helps, and good luck. Mike. "Stephen Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31/10/2001 15:10:05 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Let Me Out Of Here My post is quite off-topic, but I've tried other routes. Apologies in advance. Stop here if you're easily irritated! > How can I get off this list!! > > I have tried the Unsubscribe URL at the bottom, but it never completes! > > -John John, I can't help, but I have a (slightly) similar problem. A long time ago I subscribed to this list with a CompuServe account. I now cannot send emails through the CompuServe account (long story - ISDN, CAPI drivers, Win2K and CompuServe network incompatibility problems that I spent too long trying to resolve). I still use CompuServe for incoming, and need to continue that way. The problem is - I can't unsubscribe because it must be done from the originally subscribed account. I have another subscription to the list (the one that this post has been sent from), so now I get two of everything (I have set up a rule to delete the duplicates, but I'd rather not get them). I can't unsubscribe using the link, either. I have sent multiple emails to the Postmaster at Techserv, but to no avail. Before anybody suggests it, I don't want to unsubscribe the ConnectFree address, as then I can't send posts. Messy! Anyway, Techserv, if you're listening, please could you unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Send a mail to that address and I'll reply to it if you want verification. And John, if you manage it could you let me know how? Once again, apologies for the [OT] nature of this post. Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Fw: Copper primitives in pcb components Oops!
*** Todays forums are sponsored by Ian Martin Limited Engineering/Technical Placement Specialists www.ianmartin.com *** I have come across this problem recently. In my case, I had an arc, for a pad, with a small pad buried within it. I got around the problem by using the 'update all primitives from component pads' function, which is in the drop down menu in the Netlist Manager. This automatically set the arc to the net of the pad that was buried in it. Hope this helps. Mike. Michael Binning (Applications Engineer) Zarlink Semiconductor Cheney Manor Ind. Est. Swindon Wiltshire SN2 2QW Tel. 0/+44 1793-518234 Fax. 0/+44 1793-518453 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zarlink.com "Jim Parr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/10/2001 12:50:39 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel Users Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: [PEDA] Fw: Copper primitives in pcb components Oops! Just bumped into the excerpt below on similar subject. I think this may answer my question as fully as pcb editor will allow. Is this so? Jim Parr >If you insist on using traces, you must assign the net to those traces in >the PCB editor. You will be able to edit them there. You may also be able >to use global edits (select all occurrences of your footprint, then do a >global edit on one of the traces -- you will need to unlock primitives on >all those components, remember to relock them when you are done). = - Original Message - From: Jim Parr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2001 23:31 Subject: Copper primitives in pcb components. > Hi all, > > I recall seeing something on this in the forum some time ago but forget what > the details were. > > If I create oddball pad shapes with 'tracks' I seem to have lots of trouble. > The primary one is related to DRC violations when parts are imported to pcb. > Even if I have "assign net to connected copper" switched in, I still seem to > have to manually mess with the component and primitive net assignment to > 'bed' it in. > > How is this done without pain and grief and without exploding the component > to discrete primitives? All copper is 'connected' physically to an official > protel 'pad'. > > Thanks in advance to anyone who can assist. > > === > > While on the general subject, I do wish --- > > The "Update PCB" utility stored ALL the options when an edit session is > closed. Often get caught with having to clean up junk on pcb the next > morning when I forget to kill off all the synchronisation switches I rarely > use. > > That unique .cfg file-names were guaranteed for .sch & .pcb. Use of same > file-name for small sch-->pcb following the cues that Protel itself provides > causes .cfg settings to be shared (I don't know the details) and much > confusion prevails - the most annoying being that "annotate" in schematic > crashes completely - every time. > Different sch & pcb file-names - no problem. > > Jim Parr > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Database size
Andrew, I am using SP6, as are most of the users who access the library database that I control. It would seem, as I mentioned in an earlier message, that a .ldb file is being created, with admin status, for any person editing a PCB, with the library added. These people have not got the actual database open. Under these circumstances, I can edit and save, but the compact utility does not function, and the database quickly expands in size. Only once the .ldb file has disappeared, can I compact the database. Mike. "Andrew J Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/08/2001 12:10:18 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size On 09:50 AM 8/7/2001 +0200, Emanuel Zimmermann wrote: >This can happen when (occasionly for whatever reason) the temporary >database.ldb-file is not deleted. Then you are logged in to the database two >times with the same user name on the same machine. This prevents Protel from >compacting when you are closing the ddb because your "Phantom" still has opened >it. With earlier service packs I could see this effect several times and had to >help myself sometimes by manually delete the database.ldb-file in the Windows >Explorer. If what you're saying is correct, this presents a very dangerous situation, wrt a PEDA customer's data integrity/security, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if this were eventually found to be at least one of the sources of the database "corruptions" that comes up now and again. Unfortunately, due to the "occasionally for whatever reason" problem, it'd be pretty hard to test/isolate the problem as a group...:( >Knock on wood, since service pack 4 or 5 I can't remember to have seen this >again! > >Emanuel That brings to mind a good question for Michael Binning... Mike, What version service pack is installed on your system? If it's v6, then Protel still has an important issue to clean up, especially if, as was implied in Emanuel's reply, the problem stems from an unknown and unexpected initiation of duplicate entrance(s) into the ddb from a single host. aj * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Colour print preview
Hello all, A collegue of mine has come across an awkward bug that we would like to find a way round if possible. He has tried to produce a colour print out, using colours that would give a real type view, eg. the tracks are light green, the multilayer is light grey, and background fill is dark green. The problem comes with surface mount pads appearing green. If you try to add the solder paste layer to the print preview, its colour defaults to the copper layer colour, not the paste layer colour selected in preferences. Is there a way around this? He is currently editing the print preview in a graphics package, to turn the SM pads light grey! Thanks for any help, Mike. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Database size
Thanks for that pointer. It seems that when somebody opens a PCB file on any computer on the network, and has a library file added that is in the library database, the .ldb file appears showing admin access for that computer. Under these circumstances, if I open, edit, and close the library database, the compact does not work, and the database bloates. All I need to do, is to remember to compact the database after changes, at a time when nobody else is logged on, so that the compact utility will work. Annoying, but at least I know what is happening, and what to do to fix it. Thanks, Mike. "Emanuel Zimmermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/08/2001 08:50:23 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size This can happen when (occasionly for whatever reason) the temporary database.ldb-file is not deleted. Then you are logged in to the database two times with the same user name on the same machine. This prevents Protel from compacting when you are closing the ddb because your "Phantom" still has opened it. With earlier service packs I could see this effect several times and had to help myself sometimes by manually delete the database.ldb-file in the Windows Explorer. Knock on wood, since service pack 4 or 5 I can't remember to have seen this again! Emanuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now that is bizarre! I opened the database this morning, closed it, and it > has now dropped in size from 25MB, to 7MB. > > The compact on close facility was enabled the whole time. Eh?! > > I get the feeling I will never know the answer the that little mystery. > > Mike. > > "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/08/2001 > 17:39:09 > > Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size > > run the compact utility on it > Dennis Saputelli > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hmm Doesn't sound like thats it. > > > > The recycle bin is empty, and the backups are not stored in the main > > database file. > > > > I don't know what else could have filled up that file. > > > > Mike. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/08/2001 15:30:06 > > > > Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size > > > > In a message dated 8/6/01 10:27:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Could somebody please shed some light on this matter for me. > > > > > > I have a database which consists solely of libraries and templates. > > > > > > On Friday the database size was approximately 10MB. > > > > > > Today, I did a couple of additions to two of the libraries. This was > > minor > > > data compared to the database size. > > > > > > The database after compression, now exceeds 23MB. > > > > > > How on earth is this possible? > > > > > > > > > > Most likely you've got auto-backups turned on, or maybe you need to flush > > your recycle bin. > > > > Steve Hendrix > > -- > ___ > www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. >tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street > fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 -- MPL AG www.mpl.ch Emanuel Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager R&D Phone: +41 (0)56 483 34 34 Taefernstrasse 20 Fax: +41 (0)56 493 30 20 CH-5405 Daettwil * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Database size
Now that is bizarre! I opened the database this morning, closed it, and it has now dropped in size from 25MB, to 7MB. The compact on close facility was enabled the whole time. Eh?! I get the feeling I will never know the answer the that little mystery. Mike. "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/08/2001 17:39:09 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size run the compact utility on it Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmm Doesn't sound like thats it. > > The recycle bin is empty, and the backups are not stored in the main > database file. > > I don't know what else could have filled up that file. > > Mike. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/08/2001 15:30:06 > > Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size > > In a message dated 8/6/01 10:27:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Could somebody please shed some light on this matter for me. > > > > I have a database which consists solely of libraries and templates. > > > > On Friday the database size was approximately 10MB. > > > > Today, I did a couple of additions to two of the libraries. This was > minor > > data compared to the database size. > > > > The database after compression, now exceeds 23MB. > > > > How on earth is this possible? > > > > > > Most likely you've got auto-backups turned on, or maybe you need to flush > your recycle bin. > > Steve Hendrix -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Database size
Hmm Doesn't sound like thats it. The recycle bin is empty, and the backups are not stored in the main database file. I don't know what else could have filled up that file. Mike. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/08/2001 15:30:06 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] Database size In a message dated 8/6/01 10:27:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Could somebody please shed some light on this matter for me. > > I have a database which consists solely of libraries and templates. > > On Friday the database size was approximately 10MB. > > Today, I did a couple of additions to two of the libraries. This was minor > data compared to the database size. > > The database after compression, now exceeds 23MB. > > How on earth is this possible? > > Most likely you've got auto-backups turned on, or maybe you need to flush your recycle bin. Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Database size
Hello all, Could somebody please shed some light on this matter for me. I have a database which consists solely of libraries and templates. On Friday the database size was approximately 10MB. Today, I did a couple of additions to two of the libraries. This was minor data compared to the database size. The database after compression, now exceeds 23MB. How on earth is this possible? Thanks for any answers, Mike. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] alphabetic pin numbers
In my experience, I have found that Protel does not care what is in the number field. I have used a1, b1, etc, before, and it works fine. I have also used numbers like can1, can2, etc, for tuners. As long as your schematic footprint pin numbers match your PCB footprint pad numbers, Protel is happy. Hope this helps, Mike. "Coleman, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/08/2001 08:35:32 Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: [PEDA] alphabetic pin numbers I think the answer is you have to have the Pin 'Named' as 1a, 1b etc but the pin 'number' as the usual 1, 2, 3 etc. Then to make it clear on the schematic you show the name but hide the number, set this in the dialog box as you place the pins in the symbol editor. All you have to do then is ensure that the foot print pin numbering matches the schematic pin numbering (most important, check and re-check) Regards TC > -Original Message- > From: "Brian Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 7:41 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] alphabetic pin numbers > > > > Greetings, > > One of my fellow users asked me how to build a connector that has multiple > rows with pins numbered alphabetically. This one had more that 26 pins per > row and went something like 1A, 1B ,1C, ... 1a, 1b, 1c etc. > > I could not give him a good answer. > > Has anybody had to deal with such a situation? > > regards > > Brian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
