remotely engineering. IMHO, that idea su^H^H^H is less than ideal.
Never fails to put a smile on the dial ;-)
Cheers
Don
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What the h*** does organic growth mean in this context? I have a
prediction: I will experience an increase in organic growth in my
refridgerator over the holidays from all the uneaten leftovers.
Fueled by bullsh*it...
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Leonard
I had a case a few months ago that seems might be related to this unit
conversion problem. I had created a donut shaped fine pitch shield made up
of concentric 4mil arcs, each 8 mil radius larger than the previous arc. The
two sides of the PCB had traces lined up with the spaces on the
As ever, my license number continues to be invalid. The UK distributor
(Premier EDA) has promised (over two weeks ago) to resolve this. They are
yet to come good on this promise. Are there any Protel users in the UK that
can log in?
Steve Casey
I've tried entering my Protel 99SE license number
It is a 9 digit number, of which '99' is known,
leaving 7 digits. That makes 10^7 possibilities.
It shouldn't be that hard to write a program that
tries them all.
Rene
Stephen Casey wrote:
As ever, my license number continues to be invalid. The UK distributor
(Premier EDA) has promised (over
Well,
I called our distributor this morning and they gave me
my number and under what name ( actually a few possible)
I should be able to log in. I'm going to try it this evening.
If it doesn't help, I give the polling program a try.
The night phnoe fees are rather low, so a phone call of several
How can I get out of the PEDA mail group? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
Phil
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Steve,
I
Not as yet. I am fairly sure that Premier are attempting to sort this
but, as of today, no. Both companies must have records of the license
numbers so surely all it requires is an exchange of user names to
synchronise one to the other.
All points to real gloomy future following the
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How can I get out
I got an email from Premier recently with the following text at the bottom:
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customer or have previously expressed interest in Premier products. It is
our policy to respect the privacy rights of all e-mail recipients. If you
Thanks. Ian.
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:50 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
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At 03:55 PM 17/12/01 -0800, you wrote:
Hello, all.
I recalled the same question was discussed
Brad (and anyone else who wants to chime in):
Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the same PCB? I may
want to try this sometime soon.
I have used CAMtastic for basic Gerber manipulation (adding targets, etc.).
It worked OK for that.
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
I don't think so, at least for my purposes, based on a quick a dirty
look at it when i first got it
Dennis Saputelli
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Brad (and anyone else who wants to chime in):
Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the same PCB? I may
want to try this
At 06:06 PM 12/17/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
FCC Part 15 be blowed :-)
How about those gov't regs that prevent stuff from working well? You gotta
love those (NOT).
I'm not expert on the subject, but as I recall, most of the thrust of the
FCC regulations is toward preventing
I am setting up a chip wire test PCB master, and I would like to use
square vias. The only way to make the existing vias square, is to select
them all and convert them to free pads. Or can I substitute free pads for
vias while routing?
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102
Ivan,
while I haven't actually done this for a singular or onesy twosy
designs (note: I let the fabricators do this normally, it is their forte for
production jobs). From my experience I would think that Camtastic may work
quite adequately for a step and repeat type singular job. Where it
At 07:52 AM 12/18/01 -0600, Dave Eloranta wrote:
It would seem that Protel 9SE and Camtastic must
share some unit conversion code that has a bug.
I doubt that they share code. I'd be interested to look at the actual
gerber generated with the arc problem that Mr. Eloranta reported.
I looked on
Phil,
It also says how to leave at the bottom of EVERY message.
Tony
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At 03:12 PM 12/17/01 -0800, Leonard Fischer wrote:
If they don't, or don't quickly enough to do what you need, could you work
at some multiplication/magnification of the final scale, say 10x, then
just photographically reduce the Gerbers? I'm assuming there is some
way to do that
Abd ul-Rahman,
have you noticed any of the rotated fills where the drawn gerber
generation leaves gaps in your otherwise solid fill? Like a database that I
am looking at right now which has approx. 0.5 mil gaps in the gerber draws
of a Protel fill. Not pretty!
Sincerely,
Brad Velander.
At 11:50 AM 12/18/01 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote:
The only method I know of to reliably clear the DRC error created when
No-Net pad connects to a No-Net track/fill is to add them to the sch so
they are no longer no-nets.
A pain, isn't it.
Design is a pain, else they would not pay us to do it.
Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the same PCB? I
may want to try this sometime soon.
I do that quite often and find it good for the task.
I generally have two PCB files in Protel. One is the board proper
and the other is the empty Array with tooling holes, etc.
I Gerber
At 11:37 AM 12/18/01 +1100, Geoff Harland wrote:
My guess is that Altium has figured that many of the people using Protel do
not have a kosher copy of this, and by providing additional documentation
*solely* to those who can prove that they *are* kosher users, such users
will then be at an
Why don't rotated free pads photo plot?
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102 Grove Street
Worcester, MA 01605
(TEL) 508.754.4858 x33
(FAX) 413.541.6170
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I'm using Protel Autotrax 1.61 ... as soon as you stop laughing, I need
some help.
I have Protool pcbtodxf and it worked fine to use the files in AutoCad
Release 11 to make stuffing diagrams.
Now I have AutoCad Release 14 and it won't read the dxf that Protool
generates - says it's invalid or
I am willing to try available Protel add-ons, but I'm a neophyte when it
comes to customizing Protel. Does any body know of a quick and painless way
to create modify menus (ala AutoCAD)?
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102 Grove Street
Worcester, MA 01605
(TEL) 508.754.4858
John:
I have Autocad LT95 and used to use Protel v2.8. LT95 had DXF import
problems. It wouldn't accept a DXF file from Protel, claiming some kind of
error in the file. The workaround was to create a new blank drawing, draw a
line, delete the line, THEN import the DXF. That worked fine. It
Hi
I wrote that program (and no i don't support it any longer)
R14 did some funny and IMHO non-standard things, i think the older and
newer versions of ACAD are more compliant
send me the file off line i'll see if i can suggest a way to hack it
actually now that i recollect someone who worked
Hi
I wrote that program (and no i don't support it any longer)
R14 did some funny and IMHO non-standard things, i think the older and
newer versions of ACAD are more compliant
send me the file off line (PLEASE ZIP IT) i'll see if i can suggest a
way to hack it, no guarantee and i can only spend a
If you do not already have Camtastic, download the
30 day free trial from http://www.camtastic.com/en/downloads/demos.asp
It should be able to dxf in your old file and dxf out
a R14 readable file.
Steve Smith
Product Engineer
Staco Energy Products Co.
Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com
John C. Echols wrote:
I'm using Protel Autotrax 1.61 ... as soon as you stop laughing, I need
some help.
I have Protool pcbtodxf and it worked fine to use the files in AutoCad
Release 11 to make stuffing diagrams.
Now I have AutoCad Release 14 and it won't read the dxf that Protool
another idea if you have a copy is to try autosketch
it's pretty cheap
also maybe camtastic
as i mentioned R14 got real uppity about itself
Dennis Saputelli
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
John:
I have Autocad LT95 and used to use Protel v2.8. LT95 had DXF import
problems. It wouldn't
Hi all,
I'm a die-hard p98 user and have just starting to kick the tires of p99se.
From the fiddling around I've done so far I've come across a few minor
items that I hope somebody could help me out with:
(1) In the PCB editor, how can I change the color for the show pads and
show nets.
Dave,
With regard to the first item. Which service pack are you running. I seem to
remember this same issue with anything before service pack 4 or 5. I
remember the PAD net text being black and hard to read. Make sure you are
running at least service pack 5. There are some issues with SP6 that I
i put less eggs in one basket
i put all the sch libs in one DDB and all the PCB libs in another DDB
they load respectively with each client, don't see any down side to it,
altho maybe no up side either compared to your method
for a newbie i can see that this aspect is very confusing, the sch and
At 04:15 PM 12/18/01 +, Andy Gulliver wrote:
I got an email from Premier recently with the following text at the bottom:
This message was sent to you because you are either currently a Premier
customer or have previously expressed interest in Premier products. It is
our policy to respect the
Yea, I have some issues with camtastic as a CAM tool. I agree that a board
fab would not use it since it does have some limitations.
It needs to handle merging drill and gerber data from different designs a bit
better. The naming gets weird and the drills never merge quite right...
It also
Hi All,
I just ran into a weird problem on a design I converted from PCAD. I
cant move my reference designators. They seem to be locked. Has anyone
seen this before? I Placed a component from my lib on the board and it
behaves ok. It is only the components that are translated and
Folks,
Could someone help me. I want to measure the length of a net on a PCB,
and I cannot for the life of me, remember a way to easily do this?
Regards,
Colin Weber
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Couple of ways to do this:
hit q to set imperial/metric
Reports, Netlist Status to get lengths
You can also set up a net class and design rule to check a number of
nets(tracks) have the same length.
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Clive Broome
IDT Sydney
yes *i think* in protel 2.8 they had that attribute
it is still honored but not settable in the new software
only work around i found was to send it back to 2.8 and then re-import
98 might have it but i don't think so
Dennis Saputelli
Mike Reagan wrote:
Hi All,
I just ran into a weird
Thanks Mike,
That was all I needed to know. I can manage the menu's hot keys OK.
At 09:04 PM 18/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:
You have to add Measure Selected to one of your menus. I made it a Hot
Key.Im not the best at describing the sequence for adding it on your
menu. I remember
Mike,
I have had a similar problem in the past, importing ye olde Protel DOS PCBs.
To solve this, export either component attributes (all of them) or text
attributes (all) - I can't remember which - to spreadsheet and you may find
that all text strings (designators in particular) have had their
I just bought and installed an ATI Xpert 128 (16MB) for USD $50. I'm now
running dual monitors under Win2K on a Dell Optiplex GX110 (733 MHz P2) with
integrated video (Intel 82810E chipset), P99SE, 256MB RDRAM.
Executive summary: it rocks!
I have only tested this a little, but so far no
I *think* protel 2.8 opened that version.
Tony
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From: Linden Doyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:10 PM
To: PEDA
Subject: [PEDA] Importing Tango V2.xx Files
Hi all,
Hopefully someone here has an answer for me.
I
I'm glad to hear that you are happy with my recommendation. I'm been using this
combination for 2 days now and I yet to see Protel messing up the display while
panning. With the G400 Dual Head, it was a bit faster than the ATI card, but
occasionally I would have to do a refresh of the screen.
You're welcome!
That's one point I've brought up here before. Why would Protel remove the
ability to import a version that it could once import? If there is ANYTHING
positive to say about code bloat would be to keep legacy functions around
indefinately. I'm sure they didn't need the 20kB of
Creative labs has released the true, for real, Xp Win2K drivers. It really makes a
significant difference in the boot time, and, I'm no longer able to force the odd
blue screen of death with these new drivers.
go here,
http://www.soundblaster.com/support/drivers/
You can DL just the driver
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