Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

> On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:09 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Wheelchair routing would need to used sloped curbs, in most cases in a > residential area these will be driveways If they are in a residential area with sidewalks, then the sidewalks and their junctions with the

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

Javbw > On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > adding parallel ways which do not exist on the > ground. Sidewalks are parallel ways with very different access restrictions that exist on the ground - so I'm not sure what you mean. I can easily see them

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

> On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Remember > normal pedestrians can cross wherever they want People with vision impairments or wheelchairs can't - so directing them to crosswalks with kerb cuts/slopes and assisted signals (sounds, etc) sounds like

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

> On Nov 24, 2015, at 6:40 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Jaywalking is a North American concept. Jaywalking will get you a bored policeman giving you a ticket in Tokyo. They pride themselves in people who follow the rules and wait for crosswalks and such. However

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

> On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > The problem with separate ways, is that none of the current routers > will tell you that you have to cross the street to reach a house on > the other side of the road. Most likely, they will let you walk till > the next

Re: [Tagging] highway=crossing not rendered on Mapnik (& others)

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > I would not say so, I know a lot in Germany. Often they are on-demand. +1 They are rare in California (IMO), but there are some here in Japan. In the discussion with Signal labels, one of Tomoya's examples of

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > highway=traffic_calming for the small way segments when we tell them > to use it for nodes. My understanding is that this is not wanted. I have a question about this. If I am mapping from the newest

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

Besides the way segmentation, which I don't care about at all (because it more accurately reflects the realities of the road) - does tagging a way segment with traffic_calming=* present a problem? I realize then I can't use highway=traffic_calming on the way (because it is already

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

Javbw > On Nov 22, 2015, at 9:35 AM, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > > large sections of them on rural roads before dangerous curves These are heavily signed as being dangerous to fast moving motorcycles in the curves, so they are a good thing to map. They have the

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:18 AM, John Eldredge <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote: > > If you have signals facing each of the directions at an intersection, will > all of the signals at that intersection share the same name, or are they > named separately, so that an intersection

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

> On Nov 21, 2015, at 3:31 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Most traffic calming features are not pedestrian crossings. > > Where traffic_calming is not a pedestrian crossing then > highway=traffic_calming is the prefered way of tagging. +1 If I read this discussion

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

The name in this case is for the signal, not the junction. Could you have a named signal at a named junction, with different names? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love c

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Javbw > On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:45 AM, John Eldredge <j...@jfeldredge.com> wrote: > > Could you have a named signal at a named junction, with different names? Afaik, named road junctions do not exist in Japan (motorway junctions are named, but not normal roads with signals

Re: [Tagging] highway=residential_link

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:21 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > > This is not the only example when a residential road doesn't have a > name There are no residential street names in all of Japan for tertiary roads and below (99.99%). There are a lot of numbered roads, but

Re: [Tagging] Tagging dangerous intersections

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:15 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > For start, traffic sign itself may be also mapped. It would also make > clear that hazard (or other method to tag this) is based on something > verifiable, not opinion of the mapper. Sounds like a similar

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Guertin wrote: > > amenity=bicycle_tool_stand +1 Self_serve_bicycle_tool_stand is also good too, if you want to really drive the point home, though a bit long. Javbw. ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 9:38 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > *You want to establish a new tag such as traffic_signals_area to solve > multiple signals rendering. > *Opinions on the new tag are welcome from Japanese/Asian community because > rendering of traffic signal

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

(This Was sent earlier but looks like it wasn't received. Cleaned up/ clarified a bit and sent again). > On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > However, I do not see why the "ignorance" of the non-Asian mappers Full disclosure: I am an American. I moved to

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Javbw > On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > I'd suggest to use a node tagged > place=junction > > with name=* or ref=* > for this. What do you think? > From what I remember - in Korea they name junctions, and in Japan they actually name the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a fence made with metal bars?

Javbw > On Nov 6, 2015, at 3:51 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I suggest to be quite specific at this type level, because barrier=fence is > already generic. For the material without any more detail we could use > fence:material rather than a type tag +1 In

Re: [Tagging] Tagging airport approach aid systems

I would use navigation aid=* I tagged a ton of Approach Aids (PAPI, localizers, VOR, etc) for Narita Airport (NRT) and the navigation aid subkey covers all of it and is very well documented. If you understand a pilot's airport diagram guide, it's easy to tag the correct information.

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

Here's a picture of some mountain flowers (the tiny pink ones) on Kusatsu-shirane, near Kusatsu. They look natural, but they were all planted and maintained as a tourist attraction. They were not native to the area. https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/javbw/11094084766/ The picture I took is not so

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > The building tag is about the building itself, That is a good point. I don't want to throw all this in amenity. It isn't a shop... Office=*. ? I always assume that a building at this level is usually

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

Javbw > On Nov 4, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > everything's an object ;-) (if you want/need to) In a general sense, everything is a node, way or area object, yea. But a flower field is not a man_made=* object, in the common OSM usage. It's

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > while front facing offices often get the shop tag. Most offices that provide customer service for existing services or billing resolution don't seem like a shop. If the role for shop=* is so expansive,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

> On Nov 4, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > The network is ran/owned by a government institution, the actual power > distribution by commercial providers. So when you want a contract to get > electricity you go to a commercial entity. So building=civic is not

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > I commonly tag the center-lane variety as lanes:both_ways=1, > access:lanes:both_ways=no I completely forgot about the center common bi-directional turn lane. Tons of them in the US, never seen one in Japan yet.

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Richard wrote: > > a way > which is shared by a waterway, a mulptipolygon forrest and an > administrative boundary. Clean up the inaccurate mapping and then do it the right way. I'm sure you can find an airport boundary, a fence, and a power

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

That sounds reasonable. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On October 29, 2015 4:03:49 AM Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

> On Nov 1, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > access. I tag the enclosed area with highway=pedestrian, area=yes, and the > way surrounding it Your road islands have people on them? They have big signs here saying "no crossing - cross at the light" with a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

We have generally avoided the use of acronyms in tagging. Most people, including me, wouldn't recognize the meaning of sign=pcms upon seeing it. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love c

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > IMHO, if you don't consider them significant enough to be mapped as a way you > should maybe not map them at all. + 1 These are small *culverts* - not bridges or tunnels for a main road - so they are

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

I think he is referring to the "do not enter" sign, a red circle with a horizontal white bar. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, J

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

Javbw > On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:33 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > two tags describe a situation quite common in Alaska. Quite common here too in Japan. The runoff is captured and fed into a feed/drain system to fill rice fields with water, as well as used as a mostly

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

> On Oct 26, 2015, at 2:19 AM, david wrote: > > The factory > takes harvested olives, after a few process, olive oil is produced). The olive mill suggested was 5 years old, so adding that man_made tag would be on top of a few other tags. The big thing is if it is

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

And then there is Castell Gwynn, in Triune, TN, the home of the annual Tennessee Renaissance Festival) <http://www.tnrenfest.com/>. It is a copy of a Welsh castle, but built of concrete blocks rather than stone. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive o

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

Well, perhaps I misunderstood the proposal. It sounded to me like the proposal was that a store aimed at selling building materials to professional builders, but not the general public, would simply be tagged shop=trade, with no further qualifiers to specify what trade was intended. -- John F

Re: [Tagging] post_box:type values, meter in particular

ted States Senate can send mail without having to pay postage. They just have to have a notice, in the same location where postage would otherwise go, that the mail was sent by Senator X on official business. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness;

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

Some castles that started off as strictly defensible structures had nondefensible additions later, in peaceable times. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Mar

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:39 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Trade is more an access tag, you can have a shop=motor_spares for > example. Some are open to the public, Is that really implied in the trade tag? I understand if you need a license or certification to buy parts

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

Javbw > On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> Am 18.10.2015 um 02:28 schrieb John Eldredge <j...@jfeldredge.com>: >> >> I find shop=trade too generic to be useful, as there are many different &

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

I find shop=trade too generic to be useful, as there are many different trades besides the building-construction trades. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Mar

Re: [Tagging] Unmarked opening hours

I, too, would tend to interpret opening_hours=none as "never open". I think that opening_hours=unknown would be clearer. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.&qu

Re: [Tagging] Parcel box tagging

Is this a store or kiosk, with staff present, or are the packing materials sold via a vending machine? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luthe

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

Javbw > On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I d call the hearst residence at least a villa, if castle doesn't find > agreement. A villa or mansion or something more than a common house - but... It just feels weird to tag a more modern

Re: [Tagging] manège - area for horse training

Javbw > On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Georg Feddern wrote: > > > Ever worked/trained with horses? > > What is the key definition for sport? > Concentration? Reactions? Best moves? Power? > > Is a carrière > - sport_practice when there is just training > but > - sport

Re: [Tagging] Unmarked opening hours

Javbw > On Oct 17, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > If I don't know something .. I don't tag it. > > So I would simply not add the tag. > > This is the right answer. > > +1 > +1 > Agreed. Why would you add a tag when you don't know a value to assign?

Re: [Tagging] RFC key:oven - a tag to add details about a kind of oven

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > > Oxford dictionary describes kiln as > "a furnace or oven for burning, baking, or drying, esp. one for calcining > lime or firing pottery." We should really separate things used to prepare foods and things used

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] > I think the "historic" key is correct. > +1 Hearst castle is definitely historic, its on several historic records. My parent's house in California, built in 1922 out of

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe > wrote: > > importance=* That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or useful - like with mountains or regional features that need to shown at varying z levels based on... Importance.

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

Javbw > On Oct 15, 2015, at 12:11 AM, David Marchal wrote: > > Do you mean that the landscape impact criteria is already the one used to > distinguish minor_line and line? I think he means that there is usually a huge difference in voltage and line type between lines on

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

Javbw On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: >> > On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:02 AM, François Lacombe >> > wrote: >> > >> > importance=* >> >> That word is not allowed over in -carto github, no matter how relevant or >> useful -

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

Javbw > On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > t least the intention was to build a castle, the typology is copying > from castles, Hearst ruled an imperium (of publishing), he organized > impressive receptions, held formal dinners, etc. --- for

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:42 AM, NopMap wrote: > > Therefore I think > that a very general tag historic=castle and a subtag for refinement is a > better idea, even if the actual meaning is more like "castle-like building". Does this include plastic disney castles? Those are

Re: [Tagging] power=* tag: minor_line vs. line

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > A simper way to describe this would be to say that: > > `power=line` is for “transmission” > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transmission > > `power=minor_line` is for “distribution” >

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > This historic places map has a list of castle types, > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Historical_Objects/Karteneigenschaften > There is "Shiro" in the list, which is marked a Japanese Burg. Its up now and I

Re: [Tagging] How one may tag object as castle?

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Castle as in "a type of fortified structure built in Europe and the > Middle East during the Middle Ages by nobility". We'll have to append "and Asia" on that. There are castles all over Japan (China too?), and

Re: [Tagging] new access value

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:35 AM, Éric Gillet wrote: > > Hello, > I know this is not a vote or anything close, but wanted to say I don't think > a ban, especially a month-long ban, was warranted by Frederik's two last > messages. I disagree with Frederik's position

Re: [Tagging] new access value

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:35 AM, Éric Gillet wrote: > > Hello, > I know this is not a vote or anything close, but wanted to say I don't think > a ban, especially a month-long ban, was warranted by Frederik's two last > messages. Oops - forgot to add: +1 Javbw

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

There are a couple shops like "la mesa Lumber" and places dedicated to stone that are public shops. Often times they are the more "pro" shops a builder or DIY person goes to source a large quantity of wood, tile, or stone for a building project - but there is not a tool to be found (all that is

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

Li really like the idea of cleaning up the shop values, especially removing really generic ones. But specific ones have their place For example, electronics is a good shop value, but what about a ham radio store? Generic hobby shops exist, what about model train shops? We need to create a

Re: [Tagging] Shop values review

Javbw On Oct 8, 2015, at 4:40 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: >> Similar to shop=craft. > > Do you know what hobby this is about? Almost everything can be a hobby. I belive it is about some form of scale model building or small scale electric things (trains rc cars, planes).

Re: [Tagging] new access value

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:43 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/12/no_through_traffic_signs_in_ne.html. > This case would be unthinkable here in Central Europe. The police have no power because the road is public and built, so people are legally

Re: [Tagging] new access value

> On Oct 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > So if "destination" excludes off-wanderers and sightseers, what tag do you > use when you need to include them? Yes/permissive under general. If I am free to come up park my car for any reason and wander about, that

Re: [Tagging] How to tag cricket nets?

I hope you mean bowling. Bowelling sounds like something you would do in a WC. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On September 28, 20

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

I am not a subscriber of that thread, would you mind mentioning this thread to them? Feedback on level:ref=* seems good, so ill create a RFC page for it and related tags meant to bridge the gap between addr and tourist/visitor ref information. Javbw > On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Marc Gemis

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

Intermittant= is present irregularly. Larger objects tend to exist for longer than smaller objects. Smaller objects usually appear and reappear more frequently, but this frequency, overall is random. Seasonal = present only during a certain time or times on the yearly cycle of the earth's

Re: [Tagging] Extremely long names for highways

in town Bravo are likely to refer to it as Route X and also as the Alpha Road. The highway department, on the other hand, is likely to simply say Route X. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate;

Re: [Tagging] How to tag cricket nets?

Net is not a sport. "Putting green is also not a sport, so it is in golf=* Sport=cricket Cricket=net would be more in line with existing tagging schemes, especially the sub-keys for sports with static and well defined features (like golf courses and baseball diamonds). But we're wondering of

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

Javbw > On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > addr:floor is about the address, "level" is used more often. What about situations where the level and the signed level don't match? Im not trying to spatially locate the building for 3D rendering

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

> On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:58 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > > Actually, Taginfo says that addr:floor is used 4314 times (3162 on nodes): > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr:floor I was reading the numbers off the wiki page - I guess there is an error in the

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

Javbw > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-09-29 13:10 GMT+02:00 Eugene Alvin Villar : >> > addr:floor is about the address, "level" is used more often. >> >> When addr:floor=* was first proposed a few years ago,

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

Javbw > On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > But in some countries, the floor information is actually part of the address. Thats great, please tag it as such. I'm not saying addr:floor shouldn't exist - it should. Im saying that encoding

Re: [Tagging] Adding floor location information

r metadata for the shop - hence my suggestion of floor:ref=* Javbw > On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 30/09/2015 9:43 AM, John Willis wrote: >> >> >> >> Javbw >>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Eugen

Re: [Tagging] Extremely long names for highways

I was using official_name=* for this already (like stores with ridiculously long names) - I just realized this might be completely undocumented. Javbw > On Sep 27, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27/09/2015 8:21 PM, Peter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> we've detecting

Re: [Tagging] Orchards and their crops

Javbw > On Sep 15, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: > > our next problem is to identify the cultivars: not easy with cherries in > Japan. So there is nothing between "This is a pear" And "This is the very specific cultivar of this variety of this pear. ?

Re: [Tagging] Cycle cafes

I have no idea about this, but are there ways to tag zones in a theme park? Trying to discern themes might be really difficult without a good list of beginning themes. Westernland and tomorrowland, etc, for example. Is that cowboy and astronaut? The old west? Retro space? Pioneer times?

Re: [Tagging] Cycle cafes

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > , they would not > necessarily want to be shown playground locomotives. > > The idea for playground:theme=* came up when johnw was looking for labelling > octopus-themed playgrounds in Japan (though he has not

Re: [Tagging] unequipped outdoor area for sport activity

Leisure=pitch + sport•=* Its not anout the markinggs - its about dedicated use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dpitch I am not sure about the reservation system - but if it is a dedicated area for sports of any kind, the area is a pitch. If it is just a spot on a park

Re: [Tagging] Modelling the relation between a waterstream and one of its resurgence

Are you referring to a stream that, at some point, goes underground, then re-emerges to the surface at a downstream point? These are common on karst terrain. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] barrier enforcing maxwidth

Im talking about how to tag the barrier. That thing was **tight** and very unusual to find in a major urban area. The amount of scars on the poles was amazing. The hight restriction barrier (a common thing) is tagged along with maxheight - this barrier seemed to be the same - if you are over

Re: [Tagging] Drafting proposal: use oneway=reversible or create tag?

I think using it for pipes and waterways is a good thing, especially when used with the way's inherent direction. There are pipes, canals, and other waterways where both directions occur, but like the incline tag, it is best to specify what direction the way's inherent direction implies in

Re: [Tagging] barrier enforcing maxwidth

I use bollards all the time , guardrails too. If i tagged it as you suggest, we wouldn't need any of the cycle barriers, pinches, nor chicanes if they happened to be made of poles. we could use bollards for it all. The guardrails are there not to contain a car nor block access, they are

Re: [Tagging] a "letter box" for books

We might want some kind of generic "drop box" or "return box" - there are other kinds of things that are returned (dvds, kerosene tanks, shoes, rental /loaned items, etc. It would be an item belonging to the business or location, so we may mot need to tag what is returned. You arent going

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

Not to mention the amount of horse dung you are willing to have your bike wheels fling up onto you. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luthe

Re: [Tagging] Trolltags

From my experience with road bikes, a certain amount of mud will get flung upwards by the wheels at an angle, missing the mudflaps but not the rider. The same would likely be true of horse droppings. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

) on higher floors. It makes sense to tag these buildings as building=mixed. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On August 31, 2015 7:23

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

Javbw > On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:17 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > It also means that real importance could be tagged one day instead of > "official" importance, so we have at least something proper once people will > have what they really want anyway. =} Rant: I agree that

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > From this it sounds like this tagging in OSM is relying too much on > official classification rather than on real road importance. And similar to someone printing out an email and faxing it to someone, we have

Re: [Tagging] Road classification

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > presently traverses a staircase! I currently forget which, but a national road in Japan officially becomes a staircase near its terminus, as the government managed "road" is significant older than cars, and for

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > 3 storey buildings are normally quite different to 25 storey buildings for > various reasons (e.g. safety regulations, usage intensity, ...) Is there some easily understood dividing line between a

Re: [Tagging] Construction

On Aug 29, 2015, at 12:08 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: Gardiner is still highway=motorway If the construction doesn't impact the maxspeed, the lanes, the alignment, nor the classification of the road - then its not really under construction. If the road changes

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

From my experience, department stores allow you to pay separately in each department, but don't generally require you to do so, except for items that are both valuable and easily concealed, such as jewelry. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

-to-two-story department stores became the norm. In the last decade, downtown living started becoming stylish again, but none of the large stores have yet moved downtown. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

With the added connotation that ONLY the designated transportation methods are allowed. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On August 27, 2015 3

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On August 28, 2015 7:42:33 AM Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/08/2015 13:15, Anders Fougner wrote: So

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: uilding=commercial is quite suspect. To me, there are 2 basic types of mixed use buildings. mixed_use_urban And mixed_use_house There are so many different combinations of retail, residential, hotel, and

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:17 AM, geow ks...@web.de wrote: Along with specific sub-tags for physical and access properties it's the Swiss army knife for non motorized traffic. We have a cutting block full of kitchen knives. How many people use the pocketknife to cut vegetables in the kitchen?

Re: [Tagging] highway=footway - Advanced definition: Distinction footway vs path

Javbw On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Richard ricoz@gmail.com wrote: I think that trail is very vague, look at english witkionary, wagon trail etc so the word itself would already cause trouble. highway=footpath may cause less trouble I think highway=primary is very vague. It is the

Re: [Tagging] Shop vs amenity

On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: supermarkets have different requirements than electronics stores, e.g. because they have big refrigeration storage areas (with good insulation). Yes, you could use them for other purposes, but it typically

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