Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Robert van der Hulst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oops, did NOT intend to send this. Was testing my X-Rogue header. Heck, and I thought it would be 9Val tuning in and telling us that this problem with the CC would be fixed in the next beta! :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 a

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Robert, On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, at 21:59:48 [GMT +0200] (which was 21:59 where I live) you wrote about: '3.5.25: SMTP server settings' > On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, at 11:54:30 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:54 where I live) > you wrote about: '3.5.25: SMTP server settings' &

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Mary, On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, at 11:54:30 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:54 where I live) you wrote about: '3.5.25: SMTP server settings' > Hello Avi! > On Sunday, June 12, 2005, 9:53 AM, you wrote: >>> Avi, write a bug note, post the URL here, and I will support it. >&

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi! On Sunday, June 12, 2005, 12:44 PM, you wrote: >> Did you accidentally put up the wrong URL? > Yes. Should have been: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4612 > Sorry for the confusion. My note of support is now up, and I'm monitoring the issue, also. >> > Oh, and I liked

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Mary Bull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is, however, not a note descriptive of the Connection Centre, > behavior. > > Did you accidentally put up the wrong URL? Yes. Should have been: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4612 Sorry for the confusion. > > Oh, and I liked

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi! On Sunday, June 12, 2005, 9:53 AM, you wrote: >> Avi, write a bug note, post the URL here, and I will support it. > Is this what you want, Mary? >https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4032 This is, however, not a note descriptive of the Connection Centre, behavior. Did you acc

Re[5]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings, OT

2005-06-12 Thread Vili
GF>>> Polish invention : Ejectable helicopter seats V>> You are rude : GF> Not meant to. That's a tagline from a list of thousands that is almost GF> 10 years old - from the time Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) ruled the GF> world... :) GF> I may delete it if it goes against your sensibility.

Re[2]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TF> Hello Avi, TF> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:53:44 +0300 GMT (12/06/2005, 21:53 +0700 GMT), TF> Avi Yashar wrote: AY>>https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4032 TF> 0004032: Strange Behavior in To, CC, and BCC fields when TF> there is a long series of a

Re[4]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings, OT

2005-06-12 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Polish invention : Ejectable helicopter seats V> You are rude : Not meant to. That's a tagline from a list of thousands that is almost 10 years old - from the time Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) ruled the world... :) I may delete it if it goes a

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:53:44 +0300 GMT (12/06/2005, 21:53 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY>https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4032 0004032: Strange Behavior in To, CC, and BCC fields when there is a long series of addresses Weren't we talking about the CC? -- Cheers, Thom

Re[3]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings, OT

2005-06-12 Thread Vili
Hello Goncalo, GF> Polish invention : Ejectable helicopter seats You are rude : -- Vili Current beta is 3.5.26 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester,

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Mary Bull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Avi, write a bug note, post the URL here, and I will support it. Is this what you want, Mary? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4032 Oh, and I liked that "I hate this!!" Maybe that is what this bug report was missing - a little passion.

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi! On Sunday, June 12, 2005, 8:56 AM, you wrote: >> Where I'm different: the (blue, in my case) "Receive new mail" arrow >> does not present me with a drop-down menu. I do have two accounts in >> TB! < ... > > If you have two accounts, then there should be a tiny black, downwards > faci

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Mary Bull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been puzzling and puzzling, trying to understand what all of > you are talking about. Thanks for taking an interest, Mary. Once you have confirmed this, I am confident that Ritlabs will sit up and take notice. Someone has told me that you

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Goncalo! On Sunday, June 12, 2005, 8:49 AM, you wrote: MB>> Where I'm different: the (blue, in my case) "Receive new mail" MB>> arrow does not present me with a drop-down menu. I do have two MB>> accounts in TB! MB>> So, whichever account I am in (usually the one with the TB!

Re[2]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Goncalo Farias
Hi Mary, In reply to : >> By the way, I just noticed that the CC does come to the foreground >> when I hit that drop-down button and choose "check for all". Only >> when I check an individual account that way will the CC be in the >> background. MB> I have been puzzling

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Sunday, June 12, 2005, 6:04 AM, you wrote: > By the way, I just noticed that the CC does come to the foreground > when I hit that drop-down button and choose "check for all". Only > when I check an individual account that way will the CC be in the > background. I have been puzzl

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:08:58 +0300 GMT (12/06/2005, 12:08 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY> Welcome on board. :-) Oh, and by the way, if you are using the default AY> glyphs supplied by RL, I believe that is a blue arrow on the "Receive AY> New Mail" button, not a green arrow. But, hey

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, now I got it. Normally I just hit F2 or alt-F2, but used the mouse > on the green arrow just to test what you say. Now I have hit the > little arrow next to the green arrow, chose an account and yes, I can > now confirm that the CC open

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 07:20:35 +0300 GMT (12/06/2005, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: >> It's in the foreground here when I check with F2/alt-F2 or by hitting >> the check-mail button (gree arrow). AY> This is not the condition that I have been describing. As Allie AY> explained, I

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:13:32 +0300 GMT (12/06/2005, 07:13 +0700 GMT), > Avi Yashar wrote: > > AY> Thomas, what are you describing has nothing to do with the bug that I > AY> have reported. I am not concerned with automatic and periodic che

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:46:06 -0500 GMT (12/06/2005, 01:46 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM> He's not complaining about the CC being in the background during an AM> auto-check. OK, but he was referring to the CC in the background, and auto-check is the only time when that's happeni

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:13:32 +0300 GMT (12/06/2005, 07:13 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY> Thomas, what are you describing has nothing to do with the bug that I AY> have reported. I am not concerned with automatic and periodic checks. AY> I am talking about manual checks - the checks

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/12/05, Ian A. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And another thing that follows from this is that by picking the CC on > the taskbar to see what is happening, if you use the Mail Dispatcher, > after the CC calls the Mail Dispatcher and you get the mail, the MD > and CC close, but focus is not

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/11/05, Allie Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > On 11/6/2005 9:46 AM +0700, you wrote: > > > When I let TB check periodically, I do not want to be interrupted by > > each account every 10 minutes, meaning more than once a minute at 13 > > accounts. TB had this behaviour at on

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/11/05, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AY> To be honest here, I am getting tired of people trying to pacify me > AY> with the remark that they like the current behavior. The current > AY> behavior has no logic, and it was surely unplanned. > > The current behaviour was planned,

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Thomas, On 11/6/2005 9:46 AM +0700, you wrote: > When I let TB check periodically, I do not want to be interrupted by > each account every 10 minutes, meaning more than once a minute at 13 > accounts. TB had this behaviour at one stage and it was more than > annoying. That's why the CC is in

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:53:12 +0300 GMT (11/06/2005, 17:53 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY> The fact is that the 3.5 series is more about GUI than IMAP or AY> HTML, and those are probably fairly low on most of our beta AY> testers' priority list. Not so. Configurable toolbars were on

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:10:07 +0300 GMT (11/06/2005, 00:10 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY> To be honest here, I am getting tired of people trying to pacify me AY> with the remark that they like the current behavior. The current AY> behavior has no logic, and it was surely unplanned.

Re[6]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : AY> On 6/11/05, Goncalo Farias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> They should sort out most of the know problems. We have a few >> erratic behaviors regarding the editors (html or microed), IMAP >> doesn't work properly as far as most people say, Exch

Re: Re[4]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/11/05, Goncalo Farias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They should sort out most of the know problems. We have a few erratic > behaviors regarding the editors (html or microed), IMAP doesn't work > properly as far as most people say, Exchange support is pitiful - it's > just minor support -,

Re[4]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Goncalo Farias
Hi Avi, In reply to : AY> On 6/11/05, Goncalo Farias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In my opinion that's a minor problem (tiny, in fact) considering the >> current IMAP status. AY> I agree. And this minor problem would probably take a decent AY> programmer

Re: Re[2]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/11/05, Goncalo Farias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion that's a minor problem (tiny, in fact) considering the > current IMAP status. I agree. And this minor problem would probably take a decent programmer about five minutes to sort out. So why hasn't it been gotten to yet or

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-11 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/10/05, MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another suggestion. Revert to 3.0.2.10 like I have done. I probably will do that as the 3.0.2 series was more convenient for me. But what I find irritating in all of this is the fact that Ritlabs does not even acknowledge the problem. -- Avi Yashar W

Re[2]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread Goncalo Farias
Hi Avi, In reply to : AY> To be honest here, I am getting tired of people trying to pacify AY> me with the remark that they like the current behavior. The AY> current behavior has no logic, and it was surely unplanned. It is AY> not consistent with previous behav

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread MAU
Hello Avi, > I have been complaining about this bug since RC5, H! I had not even noticed it. ;-) Another suggestion. Revert to 3.0.2.10 like I have done. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 ___

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/10/05, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the way TB behaves: When I hit F2 or alt-F2, the CC is in the > foreground. If it checks automatically, it's in the background. > > Now, for your problem, the Dispatcher seems to be the solution: You > see the new entry in the task

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Eddie, On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:16:13 +0200 GMT (10/06/2005, 23:16 +0700 GMT), Eddie Castelli wrote: EC> What would you suggest in this case? I have no other choice in doing EC> so. I found that in Syria I had a lot of those problems. But know in EC> Jordan it looks better. Never mind where

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Thomas, -->> Freitag, 10. Juni 2005, 16:38:20: AY>> But one other possible solution for you might be to install your AY>> own local SMTP server - something like "Advanced SMTP Server" AY>> also seems to work quite well for many people - especially those AY>> who do mass mailing. > There

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:36:28 +0300 GMT (02/06/2005, 00:36 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: AY> But one other possible solution for you might be to install your own AY> local SMTP server - something like "Advanced SMTP Server" also seems AY> to work quite well for many people - especially t

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Avi, On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 05:06:38 +0300 GMT (02/06/2005, 09:06 +0700 GMT), Avi Yashar wrote: >> Wouldn't the Dispatcher be more convenient for those secondary accounts? AY> In some cases, yes - in other cases, no. But the CC opens in the AY> background, regardless of whether I have TB set t

Re[2]: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-02 Thread Vili
>> When someone use TB!, the SMTP server is always the same (some >> exception possible). When I am on the road, I would like to use a >> different provider, so I have to go to each account's setting and >> set the SMTP server. Or, what I can do is, use a SMTP server >> software. But some email cli

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-02 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Vili, -->> Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2005, 17:15:07: > [...] > When someone use TB!, the SMTP server is always the same (some > exception possible). When I am on the road, I would like to use a > different provider, so I have to go to each account's setting and > set the SMTP server. Or, what I

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-02 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/2/05, Nick Danger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you need any more help after looking over the help file shoot me a > message and I'll help out if I can. Thanks, Nick. I have been trying the approach you suggested but I haven't worked out the kinks. For example, the auto run only seems to a

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-02 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 6/1/2005, @ 05:20:19 (9:20 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Avi, > Where and how do I configure a window to always open in the > foreground? You first need to set up a command list for automatic actions upon windows opening.

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/1/05, Nick Danger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a workaround you could accomplish this using PowerPro. > > I know that you want The Bat! to do things the way you think it should > but until then you can get the results you want via PowerPro. That's a thought, Nick. PPro is amazingly powerf

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/2/05, MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't the Dispatcher be more convenient for those secondary accounts? In some cases, yes - in other cases, no. But the CC opens in the background, regardless of whether I have TB set to invoke the Mail Dispatcher or not. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pr

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread MAU
Hello Avi, > Frankly speaking, I have no problem with sarcasm or irony. But I will > take your question at face value, Miguel, and give you two reasons: Thanks for your explanations. Wouldn't the Dispatcher be more convenient for those secondary accounts? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Nick Danger
Reply to message sent 6/1/2005, @ 23:44:36 (3:44 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Avi, > Because the CC now opens in the background, I am obliged to do extra > work to view the CC, and this extra work - clicking the CC on the > task bar - makes my

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/1/05, MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I naively ask you something? Believe me I'm being neither ironic or > sarcastic about it but, would you mind explaining to me why this issue > opening in the background is so important or frustrating for you to > insist so much on it? I'm just curio

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread MAU
Hello Avi, > But, hey, at this stage I don't care how many extra options Ritlabs > wants to add to TB as long as basic functionality is not compromised > in the process (as is the case now for me with the CC opening in the > background). Can I naively ask you something? Believe me I'm being neith

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/1/05, Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So: why is not a "Global SMTP server" setting somewhere in the > program? > >When this was an issue for me, I used MailRoam to detect and apply my > >SMTP settings. All things considered, it worked quite well. > > Ok, but using MailRoam, dont you hav

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Vili
>> So: why is not a "Global SMTP server" setting somewhere in the program? >When this was an issue for me, I used MailRoam to detect and apply my >SMTP settings. All things considered, it worked quite well. Ok, but using MailRoam, dont you have to set "localhost" at the SMTP in Bat? -- Vili

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Avi Yashar
On 6/1/05, Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So: why is not a "Global SMTP server" setting somewhere in the program? When this was an issue for me, I used MailRoam to detect and apply my SMTP settings. All things considered, it worked quite well. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pr

Re: 3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Vili, On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:15:07 GMTGMT (1-6-2005, 17:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TBS> When someone use TB!, the SMTP server is always the same (some exception TBS> possible). When I am on the road, I would like to use a different TBS> provider, so I have to go to each account's se

3.5.25: SMTP server settings

2005-06-01 Thread Vili
I guess, this issue was around a long-long time ago... When someone use TB!, the SMTP server is always the same (some exception possible). When I am on the road, I would like to use a different provider, so I have to go to each account's setting and set the SMTP server. Or, what I can do is, us