Re: [U2] silly company names

2011-02-18 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From Charlie Noah: > >> Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining > >> Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a > >> trend here? > Tony Gravagno wrote: > > Uh, I don't get it. How are those related? What trend? >

Re: [U2] silly company names

2011-02-19 Thread Tony Gravagno
) names as well. T > From: Jeff Schasny > grep and sed and really acronyms for global regular > expression parser and stream editor. Awk was named for > the 3 people who developed the language: Alfred Aho, > Peter Weinberger, and Brian Kernighan > > Tony Gravagno wro

Re: [U2] [UV] XML Parser

2011-02-23 Thread Tony Gravagno
my approach to this kind of thing: nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2009/08/mv-to-anything.html (Copy everything after nospam) HTH T Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET worldwide and provides related development services r

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From:David Wolverton > The += I completely agree with. No arguments on that point at all. I've actually only adopted use of +=, -=, etc in Pick BASIC over the last few years. I've been concerned that older developers wouldn't recognize the syntax, and that it wasn't portable across Pick platf

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From:David Wolverton > But back to the 'issue' I was raising, although in > this example it's moot - the generic statement was > that 'IF ... # ... THEN' is 'bad style' ?? I still > have missed why that should be considered 'wrong' or > 'bad'. > > If it's purely style, then that's OK too an

Re: [U2] Git and U2

2011-03-03 Thread Tony Gravagno
David - you're undertaking an effort that most people seem to do alone. I wish we had more community resources on the considerations and HowTo's for various VCS's. Many people have an opinion but one must research a number of options before being able to form a really valuable opinion with compar

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-03 Thread Tony Gravagno
e of this in my own code. So once again this forum has provided value. :) Best, T > From: Tony Gravagno > I think the objection is to this: > > IF A # B THEN FOO ELSE BAR > > It's that Not/Else thing that can bend the brain. > > I think most people prefer: > >

Re: [U2] [OT] Coding and brain chemistry

2011-03-05 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Symeon Breen > Because i do not think it is any harder to understand > or in any way obfuscated, tis simple logic... Symeon, I think you missed my larger point that different programmers have different brains and chemistry, and thus certain thoughts are processed differently. Not a radic

Re: [U2] Multi-Threading Universe Socket traffic

2011-03-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
en writes a response back to another file. The BASIC app knows nothing about sockets, remote servers, or any such detail, it simply writes and reads data, which is what a database is good at - and this is more within the comfort zone of most MV developers. I can share more info about such a solu

Re: [U2] 'U2 Market Place'

2011-03-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: MR MICHAEL.HENDERSON > I have recently started getting email from > "postmas...@u2marketplace.com" about the 'U2 Market > Place'. It also features "Return-Path: > u2...@mercury.serverphase.com". Whilst it looks like > it might be kosher, I'm a little intrigued as to where > they got my

Re: [U2] Uniobjects and java

2011-03-11 Thread Tony Gravagno
blog titled "Not going to Spectrum because. ?" Comments welcome. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno ___

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-17 Thread Tony Gravagno
S model, and to do side-by side comparisons of SQL with MV database operations. Aside from Revelation, I don't think any company is doing this kind of thing for the MV world, and even then I don't think they have been doing it "for the MV world", but really just for

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-23 Thread Tony Gravagno
To answer everyone: Yes, PROF was a tutorial account which you might find on a Reality, ADDS, or maybe GA system. Sierra-Bravo simply published the D3 Reference Manual at d3ref.com and then forgot about it 6 years ago. Yes, Malcolm has/had a ton of things like this but he may not be selling anym

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-24 Thread Tony Gravagno
Yeah, great stuff as long as someone else does it, and for free, right? ;) (Not directed, Bill, just a general comment...) > From: Bill Brutzman > Dawn is on to something... > > Rocket, U2UG, or stars on this list could whip up a sheet for > www.DZone.com . > > Likewise, MV tutorial videos cou

Re: [U2] [OT] Site blocked

2011-03-24 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From:Charles Carroll > Just use Tor Project and you can browse anything. They hide/relay all > your requests and the network has no idea what sites you are browsing. I don't think bypassing management decisions is the proper way with address an issue like this. Someone can get terminated for vi

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-24 Thread Tony Gravagno
. I'm not saying people shouldn't write books, and I wish we had more too. I'm just saying we need to figure out a way to allow people who can write to do so without losing their homes. Fix that problem and we'll see a Lot more content. T Tony Gravagno Nebula Research a

Re: [U2] Site blocked

2011-03-24 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Glorfield, Gordon > Our network admins use a product called Websense to restrict > access to certain web sites such as Facebook and Myspace. > For some reason Websense blocks my access to the > wordpress.com domain saying that it is categorized as a > "Black Friday Site". Is there a m

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
etails above but I think it's reasonable to conclude that anyone who has considered writing a Pick book in the last 15 years or so has simply decided that it's too much effort with not enough potential return. T > From: Tony Gravagno > Related, there isn't a critical mass of p

Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Kevin King > I know you said you didn't want to use PHP but there's > a simple function (hash_hmac) in PHP to generate the > value; should be simple enough to send values in and > get values back out through a OS level PHP call, if UV > won't do it natively. Related, using cURL to do H

Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: FFT2001 > What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP queries ? http://bit.ly/curl-vs-wget ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
s used to support the environment, fund code changes to make the process better, etc. Maybe I should blog this? ;) Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related develo

Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors

2011-04-05 Thread Tony Gravagno
Let's see: +1 compliment -1 completely unprovoked and incomprehensible backswipe I guess I'm about even today. Thanks guys. Here we go again... Seriously George, I've been doing this forum thing for almost 20 years now, having created one of the very first online forums for Pick at CompuServe. Af

Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors

2011-04-05 Thread Tony Gravagno
Let's see: +1 compliment -1 completely unprovoked and incomprehensible backswipe I guess I'm about even today. Thanks guys. Here we go again... Seriously George, I've been doing this forum thing for almost 20 years now, having created one of the very first online forums for Pick at CompuServe. Af

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
that direction. If you don't know how to approach this market and you don't want to get some help to do so, then I recommend you find a different market to offer your services. Good luck, Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Mecki Foerthmann > AFAIK UD can be run in case insensitive mode as well. > I always turned case-insensitivity off in D3 because I think > it's a real pain in the neck. > Sounded great to start with but when you see the first printouts (i.e. > invoices) you curse yourself if you didn't turn

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Will Johnson > I think Tony you're missing the Pick calling card which is > the application. Your response was unrelated to my inquiry about porting from other MV platforms to U2. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://li

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Mecki Foerthmann > Forget it Tony. > I know Joe, he is genuine and actually got me a job once. Then he should have known better. Obviously he didn't provide the information that candidates need to decide whether or not they feel they're qualified. Everyone's time here has been wasted by

Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically

2011-04-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
itors, network monitors, etc. Rocket has been all over this but I'm not sure they have a solid resolution. I'll link you guys up off-list so that you may be able to benefit from their experience. Best, T Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.p

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Ed Clark > How would you run unidata in case insensitive mode so that > "ABC"="abc"? For A/S types, an old trick is to put a mask in both the conversion and the correlative: 007 MCT 008 MCT So the query WITH FOO="aBc" will match any stored data and even output as "Abc". That doesn't re

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
I understand your distinction and tend to agree. However, some Developers are not qualified to be a System Administrator, and some System Administrators are not qualified to be Developers. The terms "professionals", "respected colleagues" and others would be more complimentary but could be just as

Re: [U2] Accessing Pervasive SQL database from Universe

2011-04-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
to/from RDBMS - Not as tough as it sounds" nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/04/mv-rdbms2.html HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! htt

Re: [U2] Opinions on Cache

2011-04-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
capable tools (language bindings, connectivity, etc) come free with the platform. Once that's done you will have a mainstream platform with no threats from management and no looks of distaste for your DOS-ish application. I can't say Caché is for everyone but the ISC/Caché offering

[U2] UD/UV/Win upgrade notes

2011-04-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
ch/mv/2011/04/u2upgrade2.html Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/ma

Re: [U2] Opinions on Cache

2011-04-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: David Jordan > From my observations, I don't quite agree on Tony's > summation of Cache vs U2. You are of course welcome to disagree, and I might even agree with some of your points. But several of your points disagree with statements that I didn't make. Rather than go through each in de

Re: [U2] Opinions on Cache

2011-04-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
And with your last note yes, we are in complete agreement. :) Thanks. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology - Was 'Has anyone ever heard of Kyle Stetson?'

2011-04-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Dan McGrath > Just as an aside, there are better reasons for not making your > underlying technology public knowledge. A lot of companies have it in > their security policy to not disclose this information. Knowing a > company's underlying architecture makes it easier to look for specific >

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology

2011-04-11 Thread Tony Gravagno
Will, I'll be clear that I'm talking about you publishing the names of MV sites without their approval, and thank you for stating your position on that. Your naïve statement that you're "merely publishing the names of companies" is not the problem. The problem is that you are identifying these co

Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse

2011-04-12 Thread Tony Gravagno
Please make use of available resources... http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CreatePDFDocuments ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Say Adobe

2011-04-28 Thread Tony Gravagno
ls you choose, they all work with U2 Search my blog for Flash, Flex, Silverlight, and related keywords. I've written a number of articles on this topic. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue product

Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy

2011-05-02 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: David Jordan > It is the problem with a reliable product there are > not enough issues to keep the list busy. If you had > one of the competitor products there would be a ton of > issues to deal with to keep multiple forums busy. > Funny how buggy software can look good, because ther

Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the listbusy

2011-05-03 Thread Tony Gravagno
I decided to expand on this topic and post a blog on it: nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/05/back-in-my-day1.html Some people may need to 'sew' that link together if the list server or their email client rips it apart. Please remove 'nospam'. (Oh the hassles of the modern world) T __

Re: [U2] uv v ud

2011-05-04 Thread Tony Gravagno
Since I'm mentioned here... As Bill's vendor and support provider for mv.NET I feel bad when underlying technologies fail. Metaphorically speaking, the auto mechanic can't fix potholes, only help to improve the shock absorbers to make the bumps less painful. As Bill's friend, we frequently discuss

Re: [U2] uv v ud

2011-05-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
Brian and Symeon, since mv.NET is wrapping UO.NET, the issues you mention don't apply: - Bill isn't managing the UO.NET API calls, so he has no control over them. - Once the connection is established, only one client process has access to any given server connection. Therefore, no multi-threading.

Re: [U2] Anyone submitted postage statements using mail.xml?

2011-05-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
I created an interface with USPS a few years ago in a product which was shelved due to overwhelming lack of field interest - perhaps I just marketed this one poorly. (nospam.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/products/ship.htm) The XML exchanges worked quite well and as I recall there were very few issues. The

Re: [U2] Uniobjects.Net Compact Framework and Visual Basic

2011-05-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
While a direct connection from UO sounds elegant, I would advise that such connectivity should be carefully considered. If you're coming into U2 from the outside world via UO, then you may have a direct and insecure connection to your DBMS exposed to the world. I recommend instead using a web serv

[U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-18 Thread Tony Gravagno
ion. I'm also doing a lot with voice/telephony, virtual PBX integration for companies that want to shift from hardware solutions to more versatile phone systems backed by MV. This is only "mobile" because some companies have decided to forego the pleasures of the GUI for common

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-18 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Jeff Schasny > 1) I work for a business and write business > applications.I have no interest in writing Rag Doll > Blaster or Angry Birds for U2. Your perspective in your response to #1 is different from #2 so I'm a little confused. In short, if you look around there are a lot of busine

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-18 Thread Tony Gravagno
For George, I think a question about "what would be some potential uses" characterizes our community, and is part of what prompted me to open the discussion. With hundreds of thousands of apps out there for every mobile device, there are any number of potential uses for mobile access, regardless o

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-18 Thread Tony Gravagno
hould all consider mobile amongst all of the other UI options to address end-user needs/desires. ... And I'm just wondering how U2 sites are thinking about such things or implementing solutions. Regards, T Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-05-31 Thread Tony Gravagno
ple still ask "how do I create a GUI?". Overall, we're in the business of Data Processing with a solid engine for development and execution of business rules, not User Interface Processing. UI's change continuously over time. Don't ask Why, just get on the bandwagon and s

Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework

2011-06-01 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Dan McGrath > Don't just find out 'what' the users want to achieve, > understand 'why' as well. Quite right, Dan. My poorly edited text intended to convey that developers shouldn't continue to question why they should do something with alternative user interfaces. It should be evident t

Re: [U2] Conversion Documentation

2011-06-15 Thread Tony Gravagno
best to apply the text you provided as a mask. In the second case, with the colon for concatenation missing, the space in quotes is applied as a mask to INFO1, which can destroy the data, and INFO2 is then concatenated. The thing to remember is that the system will do exactly what we tell it to,

Re: [U2] Interesting article (pro mobile web) vs mobile app - relating to previous discussion

2011-06-15 Thread Tony Gravagno
Both installable apps and browser UIs have their place in the mobile world. There are pros and cons with each option. As with everything, it's a matter of understanding the audience and the technology, and selecting the right tools for the job. What's important to remember is that it all works w

Re: [U2] Interesting article (pro mobile web) vs mobile app -relating to previous discussion

2011-06-19 Thread Tony Gravagno
I feel compelled to add a big RightOn! to Brian's observations. The world has gone from treating programmers like gurus to treating them like a low-cost and expendable commodity. A company gets a "web developer" who may know something about HTML and scripting (or they may just know drag-n-drop too

Re: [U2] Eclipse release 3.7 (Indigo)

2011-06-23 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Symeon Breen > Doug > Have you ever thought of doing an add on for Visual > studio similar to what you have done for eclipse ? Symeon, I've written a VS addon like this for myself, but lack of interest in this market for such things precludes them ever getting into the field. I blogged

[U2] [UV] Cross-flavor code

2011-06-24 Thread Tony Gravagno
I'll ask a simple question and only expand if really necessary. Compile a subroutine in a Pick flavor Universe account. That subroutine has a Named Common statement. Now F-point to that code file from an Information flavor account. Compile another program that calls the first. (This can be in a f

Re: [U2] [UV] Cross-flavor code

2011-06-24 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Ed > I'm guessing that you have an array dimensioned in the > common? Pick flavor default to $OPTIONS STATIC.DIM, > while Information flavor defaults to $OPTIONS > -STATIC.DIM. With STATIC.DIM, each array A(n) takes up > n slots in common, but with -STATIC.DIM, the entire > array takes

Re: [U2] Verifying file existence

2011-06-28 Thread Tony Gravagno
Kebbon, I don't know if this is related to your NebulaXLite work, but if you want to check to see if a Windows file is present, I have a utility on our freeware page just for this. See "File Status": remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/freeware/ HTH T ___ U2-

Re: [U2] [U2C] U2 Mumps Manual

2011-07-05 Thread Tony Gravagno
d benefit from a trip to DevCon to see what I mean. HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno > From: Symeon Breen > U2 is one thing, MUMPS is another. They ar

Re: [U2] Adding capabilities in the sort term

2011-07-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
depends on the environment and skillset of the developers. Please email if you're interested in either of the above. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related d

Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse

2011-07-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
your modern competitors are doing. And really, isn't that sort of what you've been doing for decades anyway, just not advertising it? Then you just need to get the DBMS vendors to open their eyes and recognize that the per-seat licensing model has been dead for at least a decade...

Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse

2011-07-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Mecki Foerthmann > As I see it - I either buy a license for your > application and separate ones for the database (U2) > and development tools (SB+) or I won't buy from you at > all, it's that simple! No wonder MV is struggling! Under the strict terms of U2 licensing, as defined by IBM

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-12 Thread Tony Gravagno
s rather than Java, Ruby, Go, or whatever else they're just starting to learn. Yeah... as if... Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno > From:Symeon Breen

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-12 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Symeon Breen > Distributed autosharding cloud based environment - i can > recommend Mongo DB That's a great mainstream solution but it doesn't address the primary concern for anyone in this forum: How do I make that work with my U2 environment? The answer is, you don't, you write a compl

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-12 Thread Tony Gravagno
David, I appreciate the tone and the messages that you present here. You're right that there are appropriate approaches and vectors to product management and development. I submit however that these forums are not merely suited for community self-help, but they can and should serve as a conduit o

Re: [U2] Record Locks - How long should they last for? (Opinion)

2011-07-13 Thread Tony Gravagno
After all of these years, why o why haven't the MV DBMS vendors created a READUO mechanism which allows us to optimistically lock records in exactly the way that George, Rex, and a hundred other app developers have indicated over the last 15 years? Design tip: For all new development, abstract you

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-13 Thread Tony Gravagno
From:John Thompson > This may or may not satisfy your yearning for "a > distributed cloud based MV environment" > http://devwiki.neosys.com/index.php/Main_Page Thanks John. I'd rather not go off the menu to another platform. I use Pick because its fast, easy to code, and easy to adapt. I won't

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-13 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Wol > You only need a couple of users who aren't > free-loading, and the project is unlikely to die ... I agree with Wol and Ian. Most people just free-load, abuse a generous author, and then abandon the project when the author gets burned out, while blaming the open source model for the

Re: [U2] Interesting article

2011-07-13 Thread Tony Gravagno
> > Tony wrote: > >> ... the MV market needs to define a consistent web > >> service / REST API... Dawn Wolthuis responded: > > Any clues on how to get any standard that all MV > > vendors would deploy? I'm thinking this would require > > third-party software... Glen responded to Dawn: > ... >

Re: [U2] Record Locks - How long should they last for? (Opinion)

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Symeon Breen > rec.checksum = checksum(rec) > If checksum(tmp) = rec.checksum THEN Symeon, there's no doubt that coding optimistically is easy, but in addition to requiring a custom statebag you also need to manage timeouts. Wol and others have commented on some of the nuances here.

Re: [U2] Record Locks - How long should they last for? (Opinion)

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Tom Whitmore > Personally, "optimistic" locking is not an ideal > method for performing updates. I know that is the way > many DBs work but that doesn't make it right. Uh, but that IS the way that every web-based application on the planet works. C'mon now. Arguing the way things work

Re: [U2] Rocks

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
Jake Holt wrote: > U2 has an easy learning curve ..? What? MV is a > completely foreign concept to most people and I'd > wager a large number of DBAs. There is no conceivable > way that installing U2, setting up a database, > developing an application and presenting it using a > technology th

Re: [U2] Rocks

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Bob Wyatt > Let this discussion cease and desist Bob, I've been wondering if and when moderation would kick in, but I think overall, the flurry of discussion has been very positive and mostly on-topic. Perhaps the moderation should bend away from "cease and disist" toward "please focus on

Re: [U2] Record Locks - How long should they last for? (Opinion)

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From:Bill Haskett > I think that's what Tony was talking about, but I could be wrong. %100 right, thanks. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

[U2] ODBC / SQL to U2

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
n would need to be about $1500 in order to break-even with a modest base. If I'm wrong on the state of this technology and the possible demand, then I may forge ahead. Thanks for any insight. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com remove.pleaseNeb

Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?

2011-07-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
David, what you're touching on here is one of the fundamental differences between MV and relational: We use BASIC within the engine to manage Referential Integrity (RI) and provide business rules. Simultaneously, our RI is contained in the business rules, not at the DBMS level. They use other lan

Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?

2011-07-15 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Steve Romanow > When i look at an eclipse application I see 80% ui > that is not relevant to the task at hand. I agree > that it and most every app implemented with it are > trash. I agree with the first sentence that Eclipse is bloated, but "most every app implemented with it are tras

Re: [U2] IDEs

2011-07-15 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Steve Romanow > Real IDE's are necessary for some projects like java > and (also java, Droid) development since it helps with > packaging and whatnot. That really doesnt seem > necessary for an mv app. > > I'll stick to my old school vim, mercurial, and ssh. I remember Linux guys sayi

Re: [U2] Document Management

2011-07-22 Thread Tony Gravagno
but not so strong on external interfaces, which is what people see and pay the big bucks for. If anyone is familiar with a Pick-based package that fits the above description, please contact me. If you have the budget to create one in preference to buying one, I'm open to that as well. Thanks!

Re: [U2] Using SSL, with .Net to make a connection to Linux/Unix

2011-07-29 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Tom Whitmore > We are having problems making the .NET telnet tool make an > SSL connection to UniVerse on a Linux server. > Has anyone been successful in making this type of connection? > If so, did you use the .NET telnet tool or a third-party product? Someone might suggest a more native

Re: [U2] Using SSL, with .Net to make a connection to Linux/Unix

2011-07-30 Thread Tony Gravagno
*GASP* I've made a serious error! I thought you meant UO.NET, the ".NET connectivity tool". I missed "telnet". OK, it seems you want this: ..NET > telnet > SSL > internet > SSH > telnet > UV There are many .NET Telnet clients, freeware and commercial. It doesn't matter which one you use. Almos

[U2] AIX uname and Redback

2011-08-04 Thread Tony Gravagno
is used as a component of the security mechanism to lock NebulaXLite and other software to a single system. I don't care what the value is, but I need it to be reported consistently. For now I'm issuing a site-specific version of the software so they can move forward, but I'd like

Re: [U2] AIX uname and Redback

2011-08-04 Thread Tony Gravagno
Yeah, I already asked the client to use "which uname" and to otherwise look around for another executable, and the one in /usr/bin is the only one he can find. Keep the ideas coming bud. :) Thanks. T > From: Kevin King > Tony, are you sure Redback isn't setting some $PATH that's > running someth

Re: [U2] AIX uname and Redback

2011-08-04 Thread Tony Gravagno
To my knowledge Redback itself isn't being asked for anything. A BASIC sub was executed and returned the short result - I believe this does what you're suggesting. That sub also kicks off a phantom with the same results. Code is below. FYI, I don't use Redback myself so please forgive any misun

Re: [U2] uniobjects question

2011-08-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
EB.IO.NAME_":USER OUTVAL = "SAVED" CASE OPERATION = "GET RESPONSE" READ USER.NAME FROM WS,"WEB.IO.NAME_":USER OUTVAL = 'the user said his name was ':USER.NAME CALL OPERATION = "SOMETHING COMPLEX" CALL WEB

Re: [U2] uniobjects question

2011-08-08 Thread Tony Gravagno
Doug, as confirmed by the experience of others, and confirming your own suspicion, we can say with certainty "it's not possible to have a functional app where CRT and INPUT are encountered by UO". The only way to use traditional code like that is to skip UO and to use a telnet or SSH client from y

Re: [U2] callHTTP creating Header (Karl-Heinz Winter)

2011-08-25 Thread Tony Gravagno
Karl - your original request said: "How can I create the correct header?" My mental response was "stop bothering with CallHTTP and use cURL". I refrained from posting that because of the inevitable retribution from people who prefer to bang their heads against flaky software rather than just look

Re: [U2] Ardent programmers

2011-09-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
side, I've been LOLing at the lighter notes in this thread. Thanks folks. Final Note: my recent blogs discuss retrofitting code for GUI, Android development, advanced Excel reporting, and more. See link below. Thanks. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.

Re: [U2] Ardent programmers

2011-09-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Wjhonson > http://knol.google.com/k/will-johnson/... That page misses the important facts that RPL is still actively sold, maintained, and used today in active application development. > RPL (the one from SMI, not that other one) For historical reference, that was RPL+ licensed by R-Comp

Re: [U2] [uv] from uv/linux, execute a remote mysql/sql stmt ?

2011-10-02 Thread Tony Gravagno
The easy answer is to pretend you're doing this from a web page, where the MP in LAMP is MySQL and PHP. From there you have a world full of answers rather than something U2-specific. Note that most shared hosts don't have a MySQL DBMS on the same system as the HTTP servers. They almost Always se

Re: [U2] Question about accessing external SQL database

2011-10-06 Thread Tony Gravagno
eb service for this. You can use CallHTTP or cURL with a GET or POST and maybe simple REST/querystring request (depending on how complex your queries are). This is another one that seems like magic but it can be done in a few minutes, and for free. Good luck. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and D

Re: [U2] FAST

2011-10-07 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From:Robert Porter > The minute the U2 listserver makes the term "battle" come to > mind, is the minute I un-subscribe. Reminds me that when Jon Sisk wrote documentation for Pick Systems he described the "i" option of the startspooler verb as "This is the last resort in Spooler warfare." Some

Re: [U2] Signature capture solution

2011-10-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
Yup, all the work is already done, and with the Topaz sigpad too. Please see my blog: no_spamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/2009/09/signatures01.html and contact me to see if we have a good fit. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET

Re: [U2] Signature capture solution

2011-10-10 Thread Tony Gravagno
For reference, I've already done most or all of what Bob describes, including integration with AnzioWin (and AccuTerm) and PrintWizard. The difference in approaches is that I don't rely on the Anzio tools, but have coded the interface for optional integration with them. For a common MV app, Print

Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Martin Braid > VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin How so? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

2011-11-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Allen E. Elwood > Anyone need/want the original JES pick basic book, > here's your chance to pick it up for a mere $10 spot, > give or take a few cents. This market could Really use new books that include platform-specific nuances, communications with different languages and protocol

Re: [U2] Pick history video on youtube

2011-11-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
And for people who already bought a Pick system so many years ago... https://www.facebook.com/PickBook > From: Susan Joslyn > I would think that this would be a great sales tool to > this day. Don't miss it - it is actually at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ms0yvJAUAk > Date:"John Hester" >

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress "not found" in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread Tony Gravagno
What I'm wondering as a higher-level question is: how important are reports that are so volatile that they are invalid between the select and the print? Certainly they're even more invalid between printing and the time someone reads them. Another approach might be to do a COPY or REFORMAT of sele

Re: [U2] Code Collaboration

2011-11-16 Thread Tony Gravagno
.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/11/mvcollaboration.html Comments always welcome. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula R&D sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog

Re: [U2] Code Collaboration

2011-11-16 Thread Tony Gravagno
Did anyone buy a lotto ticket or check for planetary alignment? This might not ever happen again: Doug, Will, and Tony all in amicable agreement on the same day... ;) ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mail

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