Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-22 Thread Daniel Heuwinkel
> Pentium Dual Core E2140(1.6GHz, 800FSB, L2 1MB, rev.L2) >These have quite advanced thermal protection, so it should work well >with passive cooling. >http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/27/what_if_your_cpu_cooler_fails/ Quoting from the above "Finally, the Pentium Dual Core E2160, which

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-22 Thread Pertti Kosunen
Daniel Heuwinkel wrote: > Pentium Dual Core E2140(1.6GHz, 800FSB, L2 1MB, rev.L2) These have quite advanced thermal protection, so it should work well with passive cooling. http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/27/what_if_your_cpu_cooler_fails/ ___ v

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-22 Thread jori.hamalainen
Some other vision of next generation HTPC >LinuxMCE announced plans for new release which should be out at the end of >November: >- using Kubuntu 7.10; >- support both 32-bit and 64-bit; >- improved MythTV version; >- working version of VDR (!); >- full support 1080p, HD-DVD and Blue-Ray >Think i

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread VDR User
On Nov 21, 2007 2:47 PM, Daniel Heuwinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Pentium Duo I referred to is not a Core Duo but a Pentium Dual Core[1] > "These closely resembled the Core 2 Duo E4300 processor with the exception of > having 1 MB L2 cache instead of 2 MB" Sorry, I misread your post. /f

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Heuwinkel
>It should be noted that Core Duo and Core 2 Duo are not the same. >Core 2 Duo uses the new architecture while Core Duo does not. Unless >the price difference is drastic between your considerations, I would >absolutely go with the Core 2 Duo. The Pentium Duo I referred to is not a Core Duo but a

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread Ales Jurik
On Wednesday 21 of November 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > lists all the CPUs this board supports, and since they are probably > all way faster than I'll actually need, it's probably best to use > the one with the lowest power consumption. > Does anybody know which of these has the lowest power r

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread VDR User
On Nov 21, 2007 1:54 PM, Daniel Heuwinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I have read over the last few months I would recommend either the > Core 2 Duo E4300 (1.8GHz,800FSB,L2:2MB,65W,rev.L2) or the > Pentium Dual Core E2140(1.6GHz, 800FSB, L2 1MB, rev.L2) It should be noted that Core Duo

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Heuwinkel
>So the next question is: which CPU to use? >http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=de-de&model=P5 GC >lists all the CPUs this board supports, and since they are probably >all way faster than I'll actually need, it's probably best to use >the one with the lowest power consum

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/19/07 00:25, Jörg Knitter wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: >> I don't want to lose the ability to record 3 DVB-S transponders >> in parallel, and I also need the DVB-T card. >> >> > Have you ever thought about a USB solution? I also would prefer PCI, but > I also could not believe that

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread Segers,Jan J.K.T.
>So the next question is: which CPU to use? i would definitely go for the intel core2duo e4300. have a look here: http://www.hardtecs4u.de/reviews/2007/intel_e6420_e4300/index6.php beside its low power consumption it offers also two cores, which might be handy. -- Jan

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-21 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/18/07 23:32, Segers,Jan J.K.T. wrote: >> But AFAICS unfortunately no gigabit Ethernet (which I'd like have in order >> to record to my server). > > how about the ASUS P5GC ? Well, looks like the ASUS P5GC is going to be the board for my new-to-build VDR: http://de.asus.com/products.aspx?l1

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-20 Thread Pasi Juppo
Lauri Tischler wrote: > Jan Exner wrote: > >> But there are more people like Klaus who are quite happy with hardware >> decoding, and I am grateful he works the way he does. > > Hear, hear... > Thankfully no need for totally bloated X-stuff or framebuffers or such.. > Just plain minimal text/cons

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-20 Thread clemens kirchgatterer
regarding to: > But AFAICS unfortunately no gigabit Ethernet (which I'd like have > in order to record to my server). [..] > I don't want to lose the ability to record 3 DVB-S transponders > in parallel, and I also need the DVB-T card. hmm, may i suggest to stick two of your DVB-S cards into th

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-20 Thread Lauri Tischler
Jan Exner wrote: > But there are more people like Klaus who are quite happy with hardware > decoding, and I am grateful he works the way he does. Hear, hear... Thankfully no need for totally bloated X-stuff or framebuffers or such.. Just plain minimal text/consolebased system. VDR _is_ just a Set

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Steffen Barszus
VDR User schrieb: > On Nov 19, 2007 2:40 AM, Jan Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Why would you bother when you can buy something way better & faster >>> for cheap these days? >>> >> Why would you bother updating when it works just fine? And even the >> cheapest system I could buy t

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 18 Nov 2007, at 21:52, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > But AFAICS unfortunately no gigabit Ethernet (which I'd like have in > order > to record to my server). The AOpen i915Ga-HFS has 3 pci slots, gigabit ethernet and supports pentium M. I've used it with a 1.73MHz processor and for even soft

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/19/07 21:57, Michael Möhle wrote: > >> The default SUSE 10.3 kernel comes with an r8169.ko module, >> so I would guess it should work. > > This is correct, with a small Bug: > http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Realtek_8169_driver_problem Ok, that's not a real problem (at least for me) ;-) Klaus

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Michael Möhle
>The default SUSE 10.3 kernel comes with an r8169.ko module, >so I would guess it should work. This is correct, with a small Bug: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Realtek_8169_driver_problem Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linux

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread VDR User
On Nov 19, 2007 9:37 AM, Jan Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How come manufacturers aren't jumping at the chance to capture the > > profits from people like you with old slow pc's in need of such cards? > > I'm not saying my way is the best way. > > But there are more people like Klaus who are

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Jan Exner
"VDR User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi, > How come manufacturers aren't jumping at the chance to capture the > profits from people like you with old slow pc's in need of such cards? I'm not saying my way is the best way. But there are more people like Klaus who are quite happy with hardware

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread VDR User
On Nov 19, 2007 2:40 AM, Jan Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would you bother when you can buy something way better & faster > > for cheap these days? > > Why would you bother updating when it works just fine? And even the > cheapest system I could buy today is still more expensive than ke

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/19/07 11:35, Ales Jurik wrote: > On Monday 19 of November 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >>> i bought the p5gc recently; it is the only board with >>> 6x PCI, but without onboard graphics. >> Well, I can plug a graphics card into that extra PCI slot. >> > There is also one extra PCIEx16 slot.

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Lauri Tischler
Füley István wrote: > PCI-Express has nothing to do with PCI, they're different slots. > I'm selling hardware, and as I said before, current motherboards does > not have 5 PCI slots. > The last boards with 5 PCI slots were these: Asus P5P800, with AGP port, > socket 775 on board 10/100 LAN, DDR 1

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Pertti Kosunen
Füley István wrote: > PCI-Express has nothing to do with PCI, they're different slots. > I'm selling hardware, and as I said before, current motherboards does > not have 5 PCI slots. > The last boards with 5 PCI slots were these: Asus P5P800, with AGP port, > socket 775 on board 10/100 LAN, DDR 1

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Jan Exner
"VDR User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi, > Besides, I don't think that many users are still using some ancient pc > with a slow cpu like Klaus has. I'm using an old Compaq Deskpro with a 700MHz Pentium III with 384MB. It sports two DVB-T cards as input and one FF DVB-S as output. Works perfect

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Ales Jurik
On Monday 19 of November 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > i bought the p5gc recently; it is the only board with > > 6x PCI, but without onboard graphics. > > Well, I can plug a graphics card into that extra PCI slot. > There is also one extra PCIEx16 slot. > > the only problem so far is the onbo

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/19/2007 11:01 AM, Hermann Gausterer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:32:47PM +0100, Segers,Jan J.K.T. wrote: >> how about the ASUS P5GC ? > > hi > > i bought the p5gc recently; it is the only board with > 6x PCI, but without onboard graphics. Well, I can plug a graphics card into that e

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Travel Factory S.r.l.
> Besides, I don't think > that many users are still using some ancient pc with a slow cpu > like Klaus has. I've been using a IBM Netstation, 266mhz, 128 mb ram with a FF dvb-s and a aver 771 dvb-t. It worked FLAWLESSY ! I could record 2 streams and play a third one, the OSD was slow but rec

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Füley István
> hi > > i bought the p5gc recently; it is the only board with > 6x PCI, but without onboard graphics. Ooops, you're right. P5GC has 6 PCI, and Gbit on board! On my list it appears to have only 3 PCI ports, but I looked at the Asus site, and yes, it has 6 PCI ports. Great news (also for me!) :)

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Füley István
PCI-Express has nothing to do with PCI, they're different slots. I'm selling hardware, and as I said before, current motherboards does not have 5 PCI slots. The last boards with 5 PCI slots were these: Asus P5P800, with AGP port, socket 775 on board 10/100 LAN, DDR 1 support. I have couple of th

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Hermann Gausterer
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:32:47PM +0100, Segers,Jan J.K.T. wrote: > how about the ASUS P5GC ? hi i bought the p5gc recently; it is the only board with 6x PCI, but without onboard graphics. the only problem so far is the onboard realtek 8169 NIC -> works not with the ubuntu 7.10 default kernel!

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Lauri Tischler
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Does anybody have a recommendation for such a board? Asrock ALiveNF5SLI-1394 has seven pci-slots - 1 x PCI Express x 16 slot (White) - 2 x PCI Express x 8 slots (Yellow; for NVIDIA® SLI™ only) - 1 x PCI Express x1 slot - 3 x PCI slots _

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
> The point is that Klaus has very strict demands on code quality, and > many patches never get up to that quality level. Thanks to that > strictness, the VDR sources are relatively clean and straight > implemented, and we're pleased with frequent rock-solid so-called > 'developer' releases. Th

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-19 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 11/18/07 18:31, Magnus Hörlin wrote: > >> Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> >>> Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. >>> I'll probably take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. >>> But that means I'll also need a new motherboard with at least >>

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Theunis Potgieter
I don't agree, if we start upgrading the hardware, the software will become relaxed and would require everybody to upgrade to always be at the latest and greatest level of hardware. Then maybe later on we will see more byte-code orientated languages creeping in. Just take a look at windows. Klaus

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread VDR User
On Nov 18, 2007 4:20 PM, Alasdair Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know what I'd go for...it's just a shame that hardware HD decoding > hasn't grown enough for there to be some competition and innovation. I think the cost of producing such hardware HD cards doesn't make sense when you can b

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Nov 18, 2007 9:54 PM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/18/07 19:16, Alasdair Campbell wrote: > > On Nov 19, 2007 2:08 AM, Halim Sahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hmm HDTV with a matrox card > > > > What I mean is H264 video gets decoded by the extra horsepower of

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Jörg Knitter
Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: I don't want to lose the ability to record 3 DVB-S transponders in parallel, and I also need the DVB-T card. Have you ever thought about a USB solution? I also would prefer PCI, but I also could not believe that a lot of boards have just 3 PCI slots - no way u

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Segers,Jan J.K.T.
>But AFAICS unfortunately no gigabit Ethernet (which I'd like have in order >to record to my server). how about the ASUS P5GC ? -- Jan Op deze e-mail zijn de volgende voorwaarden van toepassing: http://www.fontys.nl/disclaimer

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/18/07 18:31, Magnus Hörlin wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. >> I'll probably take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. >> But that means I'll also need a new motherboard with at least >> five PCI slots (for 3 DVB-S cards, 1 DVB-T

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/18/07 19:16, Alasdair Campbell wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 2:08 AM, Halim Sahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hmm HDTV with a matrox card > > What I mean is H264 video gets decoded by the extra horsepower of the > P4, matrox is used with software output device in vdr. > > Are you plann

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/18/07 19:47, Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Klaus Schmidinger may or may not have written... > > [snip] >> Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. I'll probably >> take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. But that means I'll also need a >> new motherboard with at leas

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On 18.11.2007 17:01, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. > I'll probably take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. > But that means I'll also need a new motherboard with at least > five PCI slots (for 3 DVB-S cards, 1 DVB-T and the Extension HD).

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Klaus Schmidinger may or may not have written... [snip] > Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. I'll probably > take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. But that means I'll also need a > new motherboard with at least five PCI slots (for 3 DVB-S cards, 1 DVB-T >

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Nov 19, 2007 2:08 AM, Halim Sahin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm HDTV with a matrox card What I mean is H264 video gets decoded by the extra horsepower of the P4, matrox is used with software output device in vdr. Are you planning on buying an HD television set Klaus? Then ignore wha

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Theunis Potgieter
What about a simple multimedia networking device like the Mvix www.mvixusa.com They appear to have a live community in open source development for the device. Would have been nice if the device had the sigma EM8623L and not the EM8621L, the 21L doesn't support H.264 decoding :( This would make n

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Halim Sahin
On Mo, Nov 19, 2007 at 01:53:02 +0800, Alasdair Campbell wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 1:31 AM, Magnus Hörlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > > Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. > > > I'll probably take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. > > > But t

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Nov 19, 2007 1:31 AM, Magnus Hörlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. > > I'll probably take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. > > But that means I'll also need a new motherboard with at least > > five PCI slot

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Maybe it actually is about time for me to build a new VDR. > I'll probably take a look at the Reel Extension HD PCI. > But that means I'll also need a new motherboard with at least > five PCI slots (for 3 DVB-S cards, 1 DVB-T and the Extension HD). > On my desktop PC I'm

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Ales Jurik
On Sunday 18 of November 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > Does anybody have a recommendation for such a board? I've found one with four PCI slots, see http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=307&l4=0&model=1480&modelmenu=1. Ales ___ vdr mailin

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Füley István
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Does anybody have a recommendation for such a board? I'm afraid such a board does not exist, at least it is not an ordinary desktop MB. Novadays an ordinary full ATX mobo has 3 PCI, 1 PCI-e 16x and 1 PCI-e, mATX boards have only 2 PCI ports. All

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/18/07 15:38, Magnus Hörlin wrote: > ... > Hi Klaus. I'm a big fan of you, VDR and Eagle since many years. I always > agree with your postings and read them with great interest, but this is > the first time I have to disagree. My VDR livingroom client consumes > 30-35W from AC mains when ru

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: The answer is very simple: I'm currently working on other things. And as long as there isn't at least a (graphics) card that supports decoding the "good old" MPEG2 in a quality that is at least as good as that of the FF DVB cards, as well as decoding H.264/HDTV in *hardwar

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 11:29:29 Nov 18, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > From the pictures and description I also don't see any optical > SPDIF output to which I could connect my Dolby-Digital decoder. > AFAIK the HDMI connector also provids the digital audio, but > that would go to the tv set - how would it go to the DD de

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/18/07 14:43, Georg Acher wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:30:36PM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote: > >> It would be nice if you could provide a list with pin assignments for >> the 9-pin Mini-DIN connector. I do have a pigtail from an nVidia >> graphics card and I'd like to know where to fin

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Georg Acher
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 02:30:36PM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote: > It would be nice if you could provide a list with pin assignments for > the 9-pin Mini-DIN connector. I do have a pigtail from an nVidia > graphics card and I'd like to know where to find for example S-Video. 8 7 6 5 9 4

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi, Georg Acher schrieb: >> From what I can see in this thread >> >> http://vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=51286 >> >> (sorry, it's in German) this card is being discussed rather >> controversial... >> >> From the pictures and description I also don't see any optical >> SPDIF output to

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Georg Acher
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:29:29AM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > From what I can see in this thread > > http://vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=51286 > > (sorry, it's in German) this card is being discussed rather > controversial... > > From the pictures and description I also don't

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Lauri Tischler
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > From the pictures and description I also don't see any optical > SPDIF output to which I could connect my Dolby-Digital decoder. > AFAIK the HDMI connector also provids the digital audio, but > that would go to the tv set - how would it go to the DD decoder? http://www.

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Lauri Tischler
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Btw afaik some countries are broadcasting SD content H.264 encoded.. norway > for example? Estonia sends all in mpeg-4, i think... > Eesti DVB-T teenus hakkab tööle järgmiste parameetritega: > Modulatsiooni tüüp: COFDM > Modulatsiooniskeem: 64 QAM > Kandvate arv: 8k > V

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Udo Richter
Andrey Kuzmin wrote: > I think that Morfsta's main point isn't any specific feature of VDR > like HD support. The point is VDR's development model itself. It is > closed now. Patches are not the answer to this problem. Developers have > to be very motivated to maintain patches from version till ver

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-18 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/17/07 23:07, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 06:29:55PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: >> On 11/16/07 17:32, Gregoire Favre wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 08:20:38AM -0800, VDR User wrote: >>> >>> I didn't try vdr-1.5.11 because there is no H.264 patch for it. >>> >>> I

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-17 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 06:29:55PM +0100, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 11/16/07 17:32, Gregoire Favre wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 08:20:38AM -0800, VDR User wrote: > > > > I didn't try vdr-1.5.11 because there is no H.264 patch for it. > > > > I really don't understand why they are not in

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-17 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:48:25PM +0200, Petri Helin wrote: > VDR User wrote: > > Many users are moving away from FF cards and into the realm of h264 > > and HDTV, which is why VDR has lost a lot of users to that other > > software I won't mention. ;( > > ... > > I've been using VDR for many year

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-17 Thread Igor Nikanov
> support within VDR. More and more channels will start using it (not > necessarily HD channels either, H264 increases the bandwidth of the > satellite platform) and there is already plenty of fine content out > there. E.g. the Premiere HD channels, Sky UK HD channels and the > bouquet of HD channe

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-17 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
> If I were really the "dictator" as which you were "kind" enough to entitle > me, I sure wouldn't have spent all the recent work in cleanly integratiting > subtitle support into VDR. The original patch/plugin was way too complex > for my taste. Please, nothing personal :))) I really admired by th

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/17/07 15:23, Andrey Kuzmin wrote: >> And as long as there isn't at least a (graphics) card that supports >> decoding the "good old" MPEG2 in a quality that is at least as good >> as that of the FF DVB cards, as well as decoding H.264/HDTV in *hardware*, >> this whole area has next to no prior

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-17 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
> And as long as there isn't at least a (graphics) card that supports > decoding the "good old" MPEG2 in a quality that is at least as good > as that of the FF DVB cards, as well as decoding H.264/HDTV in *hardware*, > this whole area has next to no priority for me. I am not interested in > softwar

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi, Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 08:20:38AM -0800, VDR User wrote: >> >> I didn't try vdr-1.5.11 because there is no H.264 patch for it. Well, I've spent some time with subtitles. Will switch to 1.5.11 this weekend and supply new patches. >> I really don't understand wh

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/16/07 17:32, Gregoire Favre wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 08:20:38AM -0800, VDR User wrote: > > I didn't try vdr-1.5.11 because there is no H.264 patch for it. > > I really don't understand why they are not investigated to be > intregrated into vdr at this time as more and more TV are go

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 08:20:38AM -0800, VDR User wrote: I didn't try vdr-1.5.11 because there is no H.264 patch for it. I really don't understand why they are not investigated to be intregrated into vdr at this time as more and more TV are going to go to H.264 (not all in HDTV). Let's hope tha

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread VDR User
On Nov 16, 2007 2:52 AM, Petri Helin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That should be no problem. If a patch exists, a package developer > could easily make use of and include it in the release. So there is no > need for Klaus to add it in to the core VDR. It's generally not a good idea to base your co

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread Petri Helin
On Nov 15, 2007 9:03 PM, VDR User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lastly with regard to Petri's comment that, "But VDR does support > h.264 broadcasts already, although with patching, but still. So there > is no need for anyone to stop using VDR because of a lack of h.264 > support." I don't think an

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread Ondrej Wisniewski
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > > Some comments in this thread (and others) sound as if there is > an imminent need to switch to HDTV/H.264, because otherwise we > won't be able to watch tv any more within a few months. I don't > see any real incentive in taking all the extra efforts to do > HDTV. The

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-16 Thread Jörg Knitter
VDR User wrote: > Also, I talk with many dvb users on pretty much a daily basis and I've > never once heard someone say they've left VDR for that other software > because of eye-candy/UI. Most people seem to be concerned with > capability & functionality, not pretty graphics. > > My personal opini

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-15 Thread VDR User
I don't think anyone has implied that it's imminent VDR adopt h264/HDTV support or tv viewing will cease to exist. That would be a ridiculous claim to make! However, the truth is more and more HDTV broadcasts are being offered by providers on a consistent and constant basis due to market demand.

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-15 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/15/07 17:33, VDR User wrote: > ... > Klaus has made it very clear that he only cares how VDR works in his > environment and if you want that support then you should use different > software. I'm sure a large number of users don't like hearing that > but it is what it is. Klaus has the right

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-15 Thread syrius . ml
"VDR User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some of us aren't ready to switch just yet but there's no ignoring the > shift in peoples interests. All I can say is when it comes time that > I can't ignore those requirements anymore, I can only hope that VDR > has envolved with the times and I won't be

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-15 Thread Petri Helin
VDR User wrote: > Many users are moving away from FF cards and into the realm of h264 > and HDTV, which is why VDR has lost a lot of users to that other > software I won't mention. ;( > ... > I've been using VDR for many years now and am very loyal to it and I > must say I don't like seeing users

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-15 Thread VDR User
You're right, the wait for FF-HD dvb cards is pointless as the vendors have no interest in it due to no viable market and that information comes direct. We could discuss all the reasons why you will not see a FF-HD card but it still won't change anything. Many users are moving away from FF cards

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-15 Thread Jörg Knitter
Hi, Reinhard Nissl wrote: > And I don't think that we will see a FF card which can handle H.264. Gfx > cards take over that business and once the VA API is released and > supported, those functionality will even be available on Linux. > > Let´s hope that the VA API will soon be released and get

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread rjkm
Klaus Schmidinger writes: > On 11/14/07 17:24, Lauri Tischler wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> "Graziano Pavone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> [...] > >>> And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this > >>> goal? > >>> > >>> This feature is so inte

Re: [vdr] next features?

2007-11-14 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi, Klaus Schmidinger schrieb: > H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware > devices that can replay it (aka "Full Featured DVB cards"). > I am not interested in software players that might not even run > on my 450 MHz VDR. > > Until then, normal MPEG2/DVB-S does just fi

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Lauri Tischler
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 11/14/07 17:24, Lauri Tischler wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> "Graziano Pavone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> [...] And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal? This feature is so interesting that I cer

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/14/07 17:57, VDR User wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007 8:36 AM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware >> devices that can replay it (aka "Full Featured DVB cards"). >> I am not interested in software players that might not e

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread VDR User
On Nov 14, 2007 8:36 AM, Klaus Schmidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > H.264 will only become interesting (to me) once there are hardware > devices that can replay it (aka "Full Featured DVB cards"). > I am not interested in software players that might not even run > on my 450 MHz VDR. > > Until t

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 11/14/07 17:24, Lauri Tischler wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> "Graziano Pavone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> [...] >>> And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal? >>> >>> This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it >>> wou

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Lauri Tischler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Graziano Pavone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] >> And you wouldn't mind applying a huge patch on VDR to achieve this goal? >> >> This feature is so interesting that I certainly wouldn't mind, even if it >> would a very good feature to be included in the 1.5

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread VDR User
On Nov 14, 2007 4:23 AM, Gregoire Favre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would love to have VDR support H.264 recording on DVB-S. I know a lot of people, including myself, who agree! ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mail

Re: [vdr] next features ? Was: [ANNOUNCE] vdr-xine-0.8.0 plugin

2007-11-14 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:49:50AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > imho that's a feature that must be in 1.5 ! > as with the smart channel management. > > utf8 and subtitles are great achievements, what's next ? :-) I would love to have VDR support H.264 recording on DVB-S. -- Grégoire FAVRE