[videoblogging] Re:Random Rules
The Random Rules collections are interesting. I just wish they gave a brief description by each one. Once you see the collection, you frequently know that they are about one subject, say caves. I think the only drawback is that you are essentially letting someone else select for you. I wonder if just searching under a subject that interests you might end up being a better collection. I recently did a search on goth and found a lot of interesting videos with widely different points of view. These Random collections are really something like an editing contest. At least, you can have a lot of fun playing around with videos others have made. We all have found unique videos that, for whatever reason, have not really been discovered by the viewing audience. Randolfe Wicker Hoboken, NJ
[videoblogging] Re: blip.tv redesign!
I agree with everything Bill Cammack says about Blip being much more than just another site to drop off videos or to search for random videos. I particularly like their new learning center and have been exploring parts of it. It looks much better organized than learning options on other sites which almost always fail to explain to users how to use the options unique to that site. They usually have FAQ pages discussion pages which wander over all sorts of things usually fail to give linear explanations and answers. I'm one of those people who sometimes look at a site and simply fail to notice small links notations. I've been posting on Veoh for a year never noticed their forums listed on the bottom of the home page. Likewise, I have to confess to being somewhat technically challenged by admitting that I had never noticed the choices of most watched and most discussed option on YouTube til a few weeks ago. I think Blip has really improved itself with this redesign! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Hoboken, NJ www.RandyWickerReporting.blogspot.com
[videoblogging] Re: viewer feedback
I have gotten a lot of viewer feedback when the content conveys edge content and/or espouses a clear point of view. Women's Rights: A Worldwide Horror Show, a talk by a female bioethicist about how women are used and abused from the Middle East to polygamist colonies in Utah Arizona, made some Muslim male viewers mad they left comments attacking Western attitudes toward women. That made women who had lived in their part of the world angry and they counter- commented. Once viewers become personally emotionally involved, they also tend to give your video a 5-Star rating (or 1-star if they dislike the message). Randolfe (Randy) Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hoboken, NJ
Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube Video Thieves: How Many Are There?
I absolutely understand your point. Obviously, AskTony has behaved in a disgraceful manner. The fact that you and virtually everyone will probably feel the same way about AskTony is a very exquisite form of justice. He's been caught with his pants down and/or with his hand in the cookie jar and exposed as the sleazy operator that he is. This is a far greater punishment than simply forcing him to quietly remove my video--even though it is the second most popular of all his fourteen videos. And frankly, these events forced me into confronting the different, competing (and sometimes 'conflicting') reasons I have such a passion for making these videos. Yes, we all want/deserve credit for those marvelous moments we manage to catch on tape. But I also dream of having the entire world watching my work. I believe video has real power impacting people's lifel Looking at the big picture here. I see how it has evolved into a symbiotic, even mutually-beneficial adversarial relationship. Because he stole ('copied' is a better term since I didn't really lose the rights to my own use of this video) I learned the importance of effective tagging which enabled me to lift my hits from 5,000 to 19,000 in three months. His use of a copy of my video caused 72,000 people to see it who might never have seen it. That response was re-inforced by one commentator who though age- differences were what caused his greater success getting subscribers. However, that person volunteered that he has actually subscribed to both our feeds,,,symbiosis in action :-). Because he's a clever young promoter, I can't help but think that among his 72,000 viewers there were some young gay teenagers, some of whom didn't know there were safe spaces a community of people like themselves where they could be openly gay and have a life for themselves. In Iraq, death squads hunt down anyone believed or know to be gay and kills them. Catching a glimpse of freedom in the USA gives them hope. Studies show that 50% of more of teenage suicides in the USA are young people unable to adjust to parental rejection and/or religious indoctrination. If AskTony's use of my video helped even one such person, it gave it an unexpected redemptive aspect. I have an HD camera and have several projects in the works which i hope to turn into documentaries. I don't post most of my better material on YouTube, just stuff I feel is PSA or that I don''t have necessary releases for anyway. I love the wild West aspect of vlogging and the absence of gatekeepers. I'm hate to call in the authorities on anyone except as a last resort. In this video, I held on to what I perceived as the moral high ground. By going out of my way to be gracious and foregiving, I only increased the scorn most viewers will heap on AskTony. In the end, I see this as teaching a nineteen-year-old discipline while increasing my own exposure and knowledge. What I really am dying to know are the details as to how this expose impacts KissTony's relationship with viewers and if it alters his behavior. It's not going to turn a sinner into a saint but it might have enough social fallout to make him behave more cautiously ethically in the future. Kids learn that touching a hot stove burns and hurtsl Then they stop doing it. I think meeting AskTony and having a chat about this would be fascinating at some point in the future. In one of the subtitles I raised the possibility that I might be doing him a great favor by exposing him---although, that is an outcome I suspect will not come to pass. I have had an interesting exchange of emails with James, TheCruelWorld fellow, who reviews videos on YouTube. I'm sure he'll get around to the subject of video thieves as his show becomes more developed. On Feb 12, 2007, at 12:57 AM, David wrote: By watching your video, Randy, I learned you never issued a complaint to YouTube about that video being stolen. I think you should send them a notice and get AskTony to take it down . I know you made the original video as an expression of your freedom to be gay and freedom to be openly homosexual in a way that was very risky behavior in your youth, so maybe you feel that any exposure the video gets is good. But I still think this AskTony guy should be ashamed for what he did. Had he left your credits on the video it wouldn't even be as bad. One could almost believe he was just trying to share the love. But he's a plagiarist. And that's your video. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send YouTube a DMCA notice, they'll take it down. -K --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, humancloner1997 rhwicker@ wrote: Someone stole one of my videos on YouTube published it as his own. When I discovered everything, I was furious. A friend filmed me raging and raving at my computer screen. The
[videoblogging] Re:FinalCutPro Settings?
I tried Final Cut Express and found it was not worth the trouble. You would be better off just using iMovie and/or buying a camera that shoots in settings that don't need changing. Final Cut Pro is nice for professional movie folk. However, it is technical overkill and a pain in the neck for the average videoblogger. Randy Wicker www.RandyWickerReporting.blogspot.com Hoboken, NJ
[videoblogging] Re: AVI to Quicktime
I have a new Samsung camera that shoots in AVI. I use iMovie and the compression settings from Freevlog to convert it to Quicktime and there is no problem. In fact, two videos show just that, Art Against AIDShttp://randolfe_wicker.blip.tv/file/109868/ and also Baby Monroe http://youtube.com/watch?v=vRmaDu7Q2nQ I've started learning Final Cut Express and really do not like it. Once footage is in Final Cut, you can only get it out by re-importing it back into your camera and then reloading it into iMovie. If you export using regular Quicktime Conversion you get a huge file on your desktop. then you can reimport it into iMovie but when you reconvert using the Freevlog settings, you get a really bad quality file. I have the 3ivx program but haven't really started using it yet. Hope this is helpful. For some reason, when I post to the group, my postings never appear. So, I'll copy this and send it to those most interested in it. I'll figure out the problem with Yahoo. I had to take a different name there (Humancloner 1997) after my main email address was cancelled my usual name Randolfe was taken (by me). I finally gave up and took the second name. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker http://www.RandyWickerReporting.blogspot.com Hoboken, N.J. 07030 201-656-3280
[videoblogging] Re: The audience of ten
I just don't understand the average person's concern about privacy. There seems to be this idea in many of these postings that lurkers are out there just waiting to knock on your door, jump into your life, whatever. Believe me, 99.99% of people couldn't care less about your private life and/or you. The subject you are discussing: technical problems with your camera/computer; someone ripping off your video; your goals for putting video on the Internet; etc. may be of interest to them. Personally, I can't remember ever removing a nasty comment from one of my videos. Why are some people's egos so fragile? If people rant and rave at me, call me names, etc. I just leave their comments there for all to see. When they make a valid criticism, I think about it and consider it helpful in improving my future offerings. I might even agree with them in a text reply. Whenever you post a video onto the Internet, you are walking out on a public stage. You can't pretend you're the Pope in his Bubble Car safety insulated from cheers and/or verbal abuse. In fact, you're just a grain of sand on a very huge beach who'll probably be totally ignored and will disappear into the sea with the next high tide. Quality and integrity play only a minor role. Marvelous altruistic beautiful stories go ignored while real garbage and flotsam cover center stage. That's television. That's show business. That's the vlogosphere. An accomplished professional comedian, who is a friend of mine, believes that a comedian (or writer or vlogger) should always deal with personal things he/she understands. To resonate with a large audience, it is necessary to deal with universal human experiences and situations. I have always been enamored with the idea of producing something that many people will see and which will impact their lives, perhaps change their views, expand their world in some small way. I've found the only satisfaction comes from producing/sharing something that you feel is important and/or pleasing. Some of my best vlogs have gotten few viewers. Some of my mundane vlogs have gotten multiple thousands of views. One of my(Aug. 06) vlogs on YouTube was stolen and posted by another user a couple months later (Oct. 06). As of yesterday, my vlog had gotten 10,223 views while 'my video' posted as his vlog had received 61,689 views. At first, I was angry. Then I thought about it more calmly. I'd posted this vlog to be seen and impact others. I'd filmed it in a public place. I had no signed releases or financial interest in using it in the future. So, wasn't that youTube thief actually helping me? I studied his tags, etc. and realized why my video was viewed by more people posted under his name. I think I'll do a vlog about just that.
[videoblogging] Re: converting from mpeg4 to dv
I've just gotten a Samsung NV3 which, with a 2 GB card can shoot up to two hours of video. It has three choices insofar as resolution goes:720 X 480, 640 x480, 320x240. I've just used the camera a few times and I've shot in 640X480. This downloads onto the desktop of my Mac as an avi file. No problem there. It is a fabulous tiny and good camera. Only have three power zoom but gives a great image (as can be seen in my video of Visual Arts Against AIDS) with decent lighting. It is terrible in low light. However, I was amazed at how good the sound was when I was filming a subway musician and a public announcement commenced blaring overhead and I just moved in closer (Baby Monroe). In order to edit it, I have to import it into iMovie from the desktop. This takes 4 to 6 times the length of the video. Once in iMovie, I can edit it in iMovie and then convert it using the expert setting I learned at www.freevlog.org into a Quicktime file which I've used to post the two mentioned vlogs on the Internet. I thought about getting an Xacti but this Samsung is supposed to be one of the few able to make videos in an MPEG format that can be be posted directly onto the Internet. I'm use to using a Sony HC42 mini-dv camera (great for dim light portability) and iMovie. I sat on my Sony HC42 the other day and it has been mailed off for repair. Now, all I have is this too big Sony HDV A1U (better than monsters three times the size usually required to take HD quality film) and am learning Final Cut Express from the ground up. I'm an old man who sometimes feels like he is losing the tech marathon to the next breakthrough camera :-). I have one-on-one training by someone who knows Final Cut Express. I know I have to master that and move on to Final Cut Pro. However, I think we must be doing something wrong. When I download any video into Final Cut Express, after it is edited, I have to export it using 'quicktime compression' settings. A nine minute vlog can take a good 45 minutes to export in that fashion and you end up with a huge Quicktime movie (425 MBs). Then, you have to import that back into iMovie (creating another huge file) and waiting 30-45 minutes for that to finish. (Fortunately, I have an old PC which I can use while the Mac is doing all this work.) Finally, I can re-export the 'imported file using the expert settings and get a 45MB Quicktime file to post on the Internet. I make sure I put the huge files into the trash. Fortunately, I have two 500GB internal drives in my Mac and have just added a third external 1 terabyte drive (1000GB). I know I really don't know what I am doing. I'm not particularly gifted in technology. I know I have outlined two different problems here. Focusing on the first, using the NV3, is there something I should be doing differently? Thank you, Michael Verdi and Ryanne Hodson, for helping those of us who are technically illiterate to dare to try to swim the English Channel :-). Vloggingly yours, Randolfe (Randy) Wicker www.RandyWickerReporting.blogspot.com Hoboken, NJ 201-656-3280
[videoblogging] Re Before you start belittling me again.
I must say that all the cutting edge folks here seem to go beserk when someone really puts a little edge into one of their vlogs. Paul Knight's piece was a wee bit over the top. However, so much of it was right on target. I'd say I'd agree with 70% to 80% of the sentiments. Vlogging is supposed to be about saying the things you won't get to see and here on TV. I think most Americans deserve to be subjected to watching this attack by the two Englsihmen. I think, even to extent it stereotypes and exaggerates, it is the kind of raw blunt over-the-top criticism that 51% of Americans richly deserve for electing a friggin moron as their President. The last thing the vlogosphere needs is political correctness and blandness. I just watched a documentary about Police abuse which I thought was also a bit over the top made by people who obviously sympathized with the anti-globalization crowd that rioted in Oregon a few years ago. It did validate some of the protesters charges about how the police target group leaders, build photofiles of protesters (especially those masked) etc. That documentary failed to mention the wanton destruction black masked anarchists caused. I against terrorism from the left just as I am against terrorism from the right. I hate censorship as much as terrorism. Let us see the heads being chopped off prisoners in Iraq. Also, let us see the terrible carnage inflicted on innocent civilians by American military. I thought the battle of the vlogs which Paul Knight's video produced was more stimulating than offensive. Charles Hope did the most effective counter-vlog. He ordered some English food, had it delivered and then ate it wearing a Union Jack Tshirt and waving a tiny English flag. It was sheer hilarious understatement. Neither of those videos would have been permitted on contemporary TV because they would have been considered offensive. Offensive really means they carry a strong enough message to challenge people to think. Paul talked about a virtual Hype Park. Hyde Park is known as a place where even a mad man can get up and give his rant. Paul lived up to that tradition quite nicely. :-) Michael Verdi has raised the question as to whether vloggers aren't drifting in the direction of simply recreating traditional TV. I think he is more concerned with creeping commercialism. However, creeping politeness and a goody-goody mentality are just as destructive as commercial corruption. You won't seek RocketBoom playing PaulPaul's vlog and Charles Hope's response. I really have resisted getting drawn into all of this beyond leaving comments on both vlogs. However, the group-think and nice-talk about avoiding nation-bashing and stereotyping sounds to me like a combination of preacher-talk and me-too-ism. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re:Downloading from YouTube
Charles Hope and Josh hit similar note in their commentary about the large number of hits one of my videos got on YouTube: " From: "Charles HOPE" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat May 6, 2006 3:57pm(PDT) Subject: Re: Downloading from YouTube.Quite right. I'm sure that most of the viewers were expecting some Cwith D porno. I wonder how many stayed through to the end of the video.Joshua Kinberg wrote:The thing you may be overlooking here with the viewercounts on YouTube is the fact that you titled that vlog entry,"transsexuals in action."Sex sells, and on YouTube, that is certainly your best bet... whetheror not that video has anything to do really with "transsexuals inaction" (I didn't watch it), the title seems to imply that I would seetranssexuals performing sexual acts.-Josh** I don't see anything wrong in zippy packaging of a product or a message. Regardless of their motivation, three thousand people found themselves confronted with transgendered people listing the injustices they endure. I'm sure a number did watch the entire video because the speakers constituted a "social show" of sorts to the extent they varied greatly in appearance. Some looked like ordinary women. Others looked like males who had had sex change operations. If you're "selling" eithera message or just tickets to a movie, your primary goal is to get the viewing public in to see the show/hear the message. Wasn't the title of one movie about Jesus Christ entitled "The Greatest Story Ever Told"? Would a film entitled "The Life of Jesus Christ" be as popular? My title "Transsexuals in Action" was not inaccurate. This was the first time in the world that transgendered people had come together to give speeches and march in the streets demanding their rights. That's "action" isn't it? Putting a zippy title on your vlog is no different than putting a zippy cover on your book. The best book in the world with a plain cover will die on the shelves. An intriguing cover at least gets people to pick up the book (or open the vlog) and give the contents consideration. Writing a book that is never read is a waste of time. Producing a vlog that no one bothers to watch is also a waste of time. I'd rather be flooded with hate mail for a vlog I produced than to get no response at all. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Downloading from YouTube.
Josh mentions that there are geeky (or hacker) ways to download videos from YouTube. I use a very simple one. I set my digital video camera on a tripod in front of my LCD screen (resolution 1800 by 1200) and videotape the few rare gems I find there. I learned to do that when I tried to revisit some vlogs I thought were interesting and found they had been removed by YouTube or the person who posted them. The "positive" attraction YouTube offers is the size of the viewing audience. I only post vlogs there that I don't worry about maintaining exclusive ownership of. One of my vlogs entitled "Transsexuals in Action", posted on February 3rd of this year has gotten a total of 65 views on Blip and 2,978 views on YouTube (forty-five times more views). That vlog, which is footage from the first rally and march for transgendered rights in Greenwich Village last summer, has also generated a number of hate comments but has received a 3 1/2-star rating from viewers who voted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkqfH_1tyJc I have only posted a few vlogs on YouTube. Most of them are serious and haven't gotten such excessiveviews as has the above. Yes, the title was crafted to be salaciously inviting and on YouTube it has obviously worked. I only wonder what those who posted hateful comments were looking for when they clicked the link. Quality always finds its market and Blip TV is much better in that regard. A vlog I did on both Blip and YouTube, "Women's Rights: A Worldwide Horror Story!", has received only 2 views on YouTube in the fifteen hours since I posted it but has gotten 92 hits on Blip and is near the top of Blip's "most watched" list. http://www.blip.tv/file/30495 You really have to be "immune" to the number of viewers and focus on producing the best product you can. Some of my best vlogs have gotten fewer viewers than some of my worse. I'd be interested in hearing about other experiences people have had with different hosting sites. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Low resolution Windows Media Player and fifteen minute QuickTime program?
Someone sent me the link below. I was surprised at how quickly the "low resolution" Windows Media Player file loaded and played. The quality was terrible but it was fast! The QuickTime (QT) file took between two and three minutes to load and played with a better picture but was only about one-half the size we use in vlogging. Does anyone know the compression settings for these files? For that matter, is there a way to determine the size of a video like this when you find it on the Internet? I also wonder why they didn't use Flash for a program like this. It is unusual for a video to load and play so quickly without the "playing" marker catching up with the "download" stripe and going into pause mode. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Low resolution Windows file and 15 minute QuickTime WITH article!
Someone sent me the link below. I was surprised at how quickly the "low resolution" Windows Media Player file loaded and played. The quality was terrible but it was fast! The QuickTime (QT) file took between two and three minutes to load and played with a better picture but was only about one-half the size we use in vlogging. Does anyone know the compression settings for these files? For that matter, is there a way to determine the size of a video like this when you find it on the Internet? I also wonder why they didn't use Flash for a program like this. It is unusual for a video to load and play so quickly without the "playing" marker catching up with the "download" stripe and going into pause mode. * A few days ago Stephen Colbert (of The Daily Show fame) was a guest speaker at the White House Correspondents' dinner. Currently, on his own show The Colbert Report, he often speaks of the large "balls" it takes to speak the truth, as he alone can do. He says this jokingly, of course, because his show is about satire. Well, this week he proved that he, in fact, does have the biggest balls on TV. Not only did he skewer the President, who was sitting 15 feet away, he also poked the entire Press Core in the eye. The press has rewarded him by pretending the event never happened. But thanks to the internet (and me) you can watch it yourself. From someone who deeply admires honesty, it's a marvelous and gutsy thing to watch. The link below will allow you to watch the approx. 15 -minute clip. Enjoy. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/29.html Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] MySpace replacing television
This item from "Reason Express" should be of interest to those on this list: " MyWastedSpace.com A Texas college has put the squeeze on MySpace.com, but not out of content worries. It is sheer bandwidth-gobbling that has Del Mar College telling students to surf the profile/dating/whatever site on their own Net connections. Campus IT staff determined that 40 percent of all internet traffic at the community college involved MySpace. Del Mar's experience reveals some truths about the digital age. One, MySpace is tremendously popular. Two, Del Mar students must have a lot of free time. One student confirmed that the school's library computers are often tied up with MySpace cruisers. The biggest question: Is Del Mar a good proxy for the entire American college-age population? If so, the simmering question of "where did all the TV watchers go?" has been answered. They're all trolling MySpace. http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060423/D8H5PBIO0.html" Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] MySpace moves into TV
There is an interesting story in Media Post Publications "MySpace Moves Into The TV Space" 4/18/2006. This is the link for the story: http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.sans=42347Nid=19861p=316727 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Here's a link for creating log sheets for your video tapes
When you shoot video, it's wise to log your tape. That means putting down the time certain scenes begin and end. This makes it a lot easier to retrieve the exact footage you want when you decide to do your vlog. I read a great little book called "The Little Digital Video Book" by Michael Rubin. In that book, he gives the link to the log sheet sample that one can get for free from his website. I use these all the time and can't imagine working with video without using a log sheet. So, use this link and/or copy and save it. It is really handy to have. http://www.nonlinear4.com/dv/log.pdf Vlog on! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Difference between c and cc ?
Enric said you should consider a "cc" instead of just a single copyright c. Is there a legal difference?I couldn't figure out how to create a copyright symbol. There isn't a key or anything on the keyboard. I copied it out of the earlier posting and added text. Isn't this the way it is supposed to read? © Randolfe H. Wicker 2006 Isn't their supposed to be a date on the symbol?Randolfe (Randy) WickerVideographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re:Re: Veoh transcoding feeds
Andreas Haugstrup write:"This hit independent artists way too hard, and vloggers even harder.If you don't register (and who's going to pay $20 to register each vlogentry?) then you can only sue for actual damages (*you* have to prove thatyou had an actual loss instead of the court setting an amount) *and* nomatter what you have to cover your own legal costs. It's a really stupidpart of the law."Why would someone have to copyright each single vlog? Why couldn't you copyright all your vlogs for a month or even a year? A single vlog could be viewed as being equivalent to a chapter in a book. You don't need to copyright every single chapter.Maybe a lawyer could tell us how we could link our vlogs together (they already are in our different feeds). Then it might be a really good idea to copyright your work for the $20 payment.I know nothing about copyrights. I assume you have to supply a "copy" of your work. If your work was on a mini-DV tape or a DVD, it could contain an hour or more of content which would be about 20 different vlogs for most people. I'd certainly pay $1 per vlog to have them copyrighted and protected.Once they were copyrighted, how would that work out with claims to ownership by hosting sites like YouTube and MySpace? I've seen some really professional work (not much) on YouTube that had a copyright notice and "all rights reserved" incorporated into it.Would your copyright be compromised if you posted it to YouTube? What if someone else posted it? There is all kinds of copyrighted material, even segments from major TV broadcasts, posted (probably illegally) by others on YouTube.I even vlogged a segment from Comedy Central's "The Daily Show". http://blip.tv/file/17956 It was a fun profile and report they did on me as a cloning activist. Technically, am I liable if someone at Comedy Central wanted to sue me?Nothing would surprise me about laws and lawyers.Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] videobloggingweek2006
Count me in. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Anthology Film Archives, Vlog program, 2 22 06
FILM ARCHIVES, FEBRUARY 22,2006, PROGRAM SELECTIONSCurator: Randolfe (Randy) Wickerwww.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com(1) "It's a Beautiful World" by Random Films.http://randomshow.com/media/video/20050804a.movA musical tour of the globe which drops in on different vloggers around the world. 2 minutes 28 seconds.(Inspirational)(2) "PJK Productions First Vlog" by Paul Knight.http://www.blip.tv/file/5053A bored Englishman introduces himself, lightning shoots from both ears and a magical instrument plays itself. 3 min 17 seconds. (Very amusing.)(3) "Birth of a Butterfly" by Most Extraordinary.http://exampassing.com/extraordinary/051103phil.movAn amazing video capturing a butterfly emerging from a cocoon without wings and then having them expand. 1 min 9 seconds (Fascinating.)(4) "Rock N Roll TV, Episode 8, The Banned Video"http://bubblebabble.typepad.com/rocknrolltv/2005/12/episode_8_the_b.htmlA singer discusses his music video which was banned because it featured several women kicking a male masochist. 4 min 17 seconds. (Something you'll never see on MTV!)(5) "Kitty Condo 101" by Tanjahttp://www.blip.tv/file/6572A young woman shows how to create housing for homeless cats in the neighborhood. 2 minutes 33 seconds. (Instructive and interesting.)(6)"Freelance Blues, Episode 8" or "Twinkie Movie" by Jonny Goldsteinhttp://jonnygoldstein.com/flb8a.mov Comedian Jonny Goldstein celebrates the arrival of a long overdue check by wallowing in the caloric ecstasy of an old-fashioned Twinkie bath. (Very funny.) (7) "Starbucks Union" by Devinhttp://www.blip.tv/file/6043Employees are picketing Starbucks complaining about wages that never rise and inadequate weekly working hours. 1 minute 20 seconds. ( A vlog to share with job hunting friends.)(8) "The House of Vlog with the Vlogfather" by ZipZapZop.comhttp://www.blip.tv/file/4289With furrowed brow and evangelical passion, the Vlogfather encourages all to keep faith in the House of Vlog. 3 minutes 17 seconds (Satirical and very amusing.)(9) "I'm Home Sick Today" by Pouringdown.blogspot.comhttp://pouringdownpictures.com/homesick.movImprisoned in his bedroom, a vlogger watches mysterious things unfold just outside his window. 1 minute 17 seconds (A classic study in creating cinematic tension.)(10) "Head" by Rob Parrishhttp://www.blip.tv/file/6415The way we see ourselves and the way the world sees us is strictly up to the camera's lens. 1 minute 27 seconds. (Half funny, half frightening, totally fascinating.) (11) "Japanese toilet" by Cheap Opinionshttp://www.blip.tv/file/8041A short video showing the "female", "unisex" and "pressure" buttons on toilets in Japan which this vlogger feels should be adopted in the United States. 1 minute (A vlog about what you'll find in Japan but will never see in a tourist brochure.)(12) "Marry Me Hillary" by Benster1970http://www.blip.tv/file/10578This vlog shows the timid a new way to propose marriage. 1 min 20 seconds (This may be a real first or simply a vlog hoping to inspire others.) (13)"Bio Mom Part 1" by Clark Saturn http://zipzapzop.com/2006/02/08/zipzapzopcom-bio-mom/ In Part 1, Clark Saturn introduces his biological Mother and they discuss why she decided to put him up for adoption in 1969, how she found him fifteen years later and bonded with him and his adoptive family. (Part 2-not shown- is equally fascinating.) 4 minutes and 36 seconds. (A moving testimonial that shows how well adoption can work.)(14) "Secret Exercise Techniques" (The Ominous Moo Podcast, Episode 4, Jan 25,2006)http://www.ominousmoo.com/category/podcast/This vlog shows creative new ways to exercise that are both inventive and amusing. They include pulling oneself along toy train tracks and even making repeated jumps in photo shoots. 4 minutes 38 seconds. (Amusing, creative and brilliantly executed.)(15) "I'm Bruce Borton and You Want Me to Work for You!"http://www.blip.tv/file/12186A stunning video resume in which Bruce Borton displays video skills and shares testimonials of those he has worked with. 4 minutes 23 seconds. (A great model for anyone to copy in creating their own video resume.)(16) "A Trip to the Hospital" The day of my biopsy by Anne Walk.http://www.blip.tv/file/569We travel along with a young woman who gets samples extracted from swollen glands in her neck. She (probably correctly) suspects this is the first time an actual biopsy have been vlogged. 6 minutes and 10 seconds. (An informative film that shows the discomfort a patient undergoes while having a supposedly 'painless' procedure. In a subsequent vlog, she gets the good news that her biopsy showed no cancer.) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual
[videoblogging] Networks afraid of vlogging?
I read an interesting article today about how NBC made You Tube stop carrying a downloadable segment of a show that NBC also had as a free download on it's own site. I can imagine what fun "remixing" some of this commercial stuff might be. Here is just the beginning of the article: NBC Needs To Fall Into Some Internet Marketing CracksA media critique by Wayne Friedman, Monday, February 20, 2006 NBC DOESN'T WANT THE HELP of strangers--especially strangers who want to help promote its shows. Such is the case with YouTube.com, which offered up a free download of a short "Saturday Night Live" sketch. NBC itself also offers the sketch free on its Web site. But NBC told YouTube to give the skit the heave-ho. Why? Perhaps this could lead to abuse. Perhaps someone would get too crazy and start promoting other shows, real crappy ones. Then what? I don't know. Perhaps they could climb out of last place. NBC's official response to YouTube is this: "We're taking a long and careful look at how to protect our content," said a spokeswoman, who added that the company means no ill will toward fan sites. This is backward thinking. Buzz marketing, viral marketing, word-of-mouth marketing is what network marketing executives should be dreaming about, efforts which can coolly relaunch shows, or tout quality--but underappreciated--shows. Viral marketing may be imperfect--but it could be the answer in an age of fractionalization" Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. sel?cmd=bandat=65268opt=0rdm=022034904 Description: Binary data
[videoblogging] We need more vlogs about vlogging!
I'm surprised at how few videos are produced about the techniques and technical hurdles encountered in vlogging. I've seen some that give lighting hints, etc. I've seen one or two telling how to use certain systems. I did one which is the first part of a short series about how to "TopBlip's 'Most Watched' List" http://www.blip.tv/file/13393 Actually, Rob Reedy's comment on my vlog (he was featured in a way) explained something I did not understand as to why his vlog failed to load despite my many tries. The subject of vlogging, cameras, techniques, etc. are especially interesting to vloggers and most of those viewing vlogs these days are probably vloggers or vlogger want-to-be's. Good serious vlogs about even interesting subjects frequently tank. That's exactly what happened to me today with an interview I did with a woman who ran a farm sanctuary for farm animals. http://www.blip.tv/file/13342 So, let's all do more vlogs about vlogging. We'll get more viewers. We'll get better acquainted. We'll learn something! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Media research shows who shares what.
There is a fascinating article from the Center for Media Research which shows patterns of file sharing on the Internet. Thought some of you would be interested. I'm sure a lot of us get views of our vlogs from others passing along the links. http://www.centerformediaresearch.com/cfmr_brief.cfm?fnl=060209 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Watch a Human Beheading now available
Those who might be interested in seeing the video I created to protest the widespread censorship in Western media of cartoons depicting Mohammed , the one which was censored by Blip TV, can now see it at:http://ia300214.us.archive.org/2/items/WatchaHumanBeheading/WATCHAREALBEHEADING.mov I've changed the title to "Islamic Justice in Action" if that link doesn't work for you.Those of you who would like to show your support for the Danes can get emblems to use on your postings at: http://supportdenmark.com/Randy WickerVideographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20Wicker Hoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Emotional over-attachment to vlogs and vlogging
One of the most interesting things about vlogging is the passion people have for it. Some vloggers have told me that "vlogging is like a second unpaid job". I remember Ryanne Hodson stating a few days ago "My life is nothing without my blog." (In reaction to blogger being down.) I really freaked out when Blipcensored my "Watch a Human Beheading" vlog. I think vlogging is a very intense and personal activity. Our vlogs are like our children. (Speaking of "children", don't miss Zip Zap Zop's vlog with his "birth mother"). So, when someone criticizes our vlog or a particular vlog, we become overly defensive. I read the article about some podcasters "burning out". I don't know if vloggers burn out or not. Anyone have any stories to share? I'm looking forward to response from the list on this issue. Vloggingly yours, Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] An apology and replies to Islamic Censorship comments.
When I get angry, I usually try to control myself. I succeeded in doing so for twelve hours after my vlog against Islamic justice was censored at both Blip and YouTube. I finally vented my fury in a post here. I obviously overdid it a bit. I want to apologize for that and to thank all those who responded with helpful advice. I'll post short responses here to specific remarks to avoid having the endless long original post reprinted. * Josh Kinberg suggested a couple alternative sites and chided: "So basically, I wouldn't go around saying the sky is falling." Actually, I didn't realize there were so many alternative forums for posting. Josh's suggestion and those made by others made me realize that. Knowing that I will be able to put this material up somewhere has made me feel enormously better. I'm working on it today. * Edmund Yeo supplied me with a resource I'm trying to use: http://www.listible.com/list/free-online-file-sending-and-file-storage-services" Every server has different procedures. I got an account but haven't been able to find out how to upload my video. Thanks, Edmund. Having recourse after being censored is empowering. Ted Tagami certainly knowsyou cancalm down someone in near hysteria by simply slapping them in the face:"Why not get a spine and host it yourself?" I've been working on doing just that for months. I've had two-years ofprepaid space on DreamHost since September 1st. For technically challenged people like myself, it is difficult to evaluate and hire people to do what you need done. Thanks Ted, I think I equated being censored at Blip and YouTube as being prohibited from the Internet period. I thought Dreamhost might censor me as well. Andreas Haugstrup echoed Ted's advice by pointing out that"First off: Blip.TV and similar services are free as in beer, not speech." The rest of Andreas' post raised questions about the responsibility any vlogger had for public reactions toa vlog: "Perhaps this is not the time to escalate the situation.Perhaps you should take a step back and think about what consequences posting your video will have.Perhaps it's not about you, but the world.Perhaps it's better to resolve the situation with angry mobs running around, and not incite further rage at this point.Perhaps I should hold you personally responsible if your video makes it's online and results in killings of Danish citizens.Freedom to publish includes the right to do really fucking dumb things. I have a feeling your video is a really fucking dumb thing to post. Since you seem more interested in furthering your own image as a provocateur, than thinking about the consequences of posting said video I commend Blip.TV and YouTube for doing the thinking for you." ** Contrary to Andreas' false impression that I was "more interested in furthering my image as a provocateur" than in the consequences of posting my vlog, I was genuinely upset (and still am) at all the censorship of these cartoons in the media. I am even more upset at the outrageous violent over-reaction on the part of Muslims all over the world. My vlog was intended to put a human face on the atrocities committed every day all around the world under the mantra of "Islamic Law" and "Islamic Justice". Yes, I would vlog them cutting the hand off of a thief. I would vlog the execution of a woman sentenced to death for adultery or sex outside of marriage. I wish we had a vlog of the two teenage boys hung in Iran a couple months ago for being gay lovers. We live in a world that "sanitizes" issues. We aren't allowed to see the killed children, the dead and/or wounded U.S. Servicemen/women on location. Why not? Because to see the consequences of our actions would probably provoke a public outcry against them. I object to putting a black hood over a person being executed so those doing/'watching the killing are spared watching the agony on their victim's face. To me, vlogging should be about showing the true reality oflife. That includes gore and all. ** Deirdre Straughancertainly contributed to the debate with this link to an article by a moderate Muslim who felt other Muslims were giving themselves and their religion a bad name. http://muslimwakeup.com/ * My thanks to all those who responded thoughtfully to the issues I raised. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS
[videoblogging] Is there someone willing to host my anti-Islamic Law vlog???
I've just discovered that You Tube also is spineless about hosting my vlog against Islamic Law. They, too, have deleted my vlog. I offer this vlog to anyone willing to host it! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Where can you publish anti-Islamic-terrrorist vlogs??
I'm beginning to think there is nowhere that you can make a statement against these mad men who would kill all of us for being heretics. The Internet is still "free" (hopefully). Will someone please tell me where to go??? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Ten articles to get you started in video blogging.
The current issue of "About.com Computers" has a series or articles on how to get started with video blogging. I haven't had the time to explore them but thought others on the list would find them interesting: http://desktopvideo.about.com/od/editing/tp/getgoing_RO.htm Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Employment opportunity
I thought the following advertisement might be of interest for some of those reading this list: Looking for cameraman who have never been to JapanReply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 2006-01-12, 3:38PM We are a Japanese TV production coordination company in San Francisco, CA. We currently help a TV production company to produce a special TV program in Japan.This program is still on pre-production stage.We are seeking a cameraman (either Video or Film industries) who have never been to Japan and do not know much about the country. We would like that person to visit to Japan to shoot video footage about Japan with its own point-of-view. We plan to make a short documentary about that person as part of the program. We will provide “transportation cost (i.e. Airline economy class only)”, “accommodation”, and “meal allowance during the shoot”.PROGRAM:Main theme is “World’s impression about Japan”, such as:- How do other countries see Japan?- How do other countries think about Japan?HOW TO APPLY:You must qualify the condition as follows:(1) You have never been to Japan, or you never thought about going to Japan;(2) You know the country, but not with detail;(3) You do not have any interests about Japan;(4) You do not have Japanese friends;(5) You must be able to operate a cameraIf you qualify the above condition and are interested, please send us e-mail with the following information:(1) Your full name;(2) Where you live;(3) Your resume(4) Your portfolio or sample video of your work(5) Explain why you don have any interests in JapanThank you very much. Original URL: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ats/124853976.html -this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using ouremail-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to:http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/3hmcrNWaAJXZ0B3bs52bl5Wal5mLAAAdy- Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Sudden disappearances during video conferences.
I missed the last flash video conference. However, I have had technicalproblems with both of the last two I participated in. When someone throws a pop-up link in the window, I usually know how to skirt around it. However, if something in the link interests me, or as happened last time, I wanted to add the link to my favorites, the moment I tried to do that, my PC went into "safe mode" (beginning to crash) and I had to shut it down. By the time I shut it down let it reload and attempted to rejoin the conference, too much time had elapsed. This has happened to me in nearly every flash video conference I've participated in. When I have been unable to get back on line in time to rejoin, I wonder if someone thought I was offended at some remark or something. However, I would advise others who join the conferences to forego doing anything with links popped up by others. My computer couldn't be the only one that is prone to crash in that fashion. Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] block by block video
Joshua, it is so rare to have someone else take your idea and turn it into reality. I've always been one with many ideas and not enough time or energy or money for follow-through. This is a great idea! In fact, I've always toyed with the idea of having a "travel" TV show in which people who had visited a place would just sit on a panel and discuss what the place was like (with video and pictures). You have that here, in a way, but it has an "on demand" feature universal to vlogs! I'll certainly set out and do a short piece on Hoboken, NJ--which is a bedroom community for Manhattan and has become the Ft. Lauderdale of New Jersey where all the young people gather to party. I've always been amazed at how difficult it really is to get a feeling for a place from travel guides and brochures, etc. Vlogs will be especially good. I certainly got a feeling for what Providence, RI is like from Doug's vlogs. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Seiden To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: [videoblogging] block by block video I'd like to invite you all to help create a collaborative videoblog neighborhood guide. I've kicked it off here: http://wayfaring.com/maps/show/2721A few weeks ago, Randy Wicker shared an idea to create a video guide to our cities, towns, and neighborhoods. I thought, why not? I found a site that allows you to create community maps, and I've created one and linked to a few of my more place-based videos.A couple of thoughts:1. Right now, I've made no attempt to be "guide-like" in any way. I've just linked to some videos that I think give a sense of place. So it's more of an evocative guide than a factual one. But who knows how/if this will evolve?2. This seems like an obvious extension of vlogmap. I love vlogmap, but since it only maps entire vlogs not individual posts, it didn't seem as if it could accomplish the same thing. Perhaps someday...So...do you know something about a place? Add it to the map! (Just get yourself a free account on wayfaring.com, then edit the map.)I hope you'll all participate and/or share your thoughts.JS---http://more3.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] just wanted to share this / found it in my lifehackers feed.
Thanks for this lead to a free program for converting MPEG AVI files. I've never understood what/why the reasons are for people putting "free programs" on the Internet. I understand some Linux users who passionately like the idea of open-source sharing. However, what is the reason for someone making iSquint available? There has to be an "economic game plan" involved in all of this. Likewise, I wonder what the economic game plan is for these sites that offer free hosting of videos or free services aggregating? Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: DOUG To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:36 AM Subject: [videoblogging] just wanted to share this / found it in my lifehackers feed. Free program iSquint converts your AVI and MPEG video files to iPod-compatible MP4 files.http://homepage.mac.com/tylerl82/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Define Videoblogging
I don't understand the need to "strictly define" videoblogging except to separate individually (or collectively) produced "independent"video from advertising trailers promoting a commercial product (movie trailers, etc.) The independence of unfettered personal _expression_ is key to defining vlogging in my mind. Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Enric To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Define Videoblogging There's been a idea that has been promoted to not defineVideoblogging. That it is too soon, that defining it will lock itdown and constrain it, and so on. The error is that a model,definition, thesis is required to test if something is viable. Youdon't discover something by not applying a model to it, but by testingif a proposed model accurately describes the item in question.The video projects that are interesting and successful whether thehighly structured Rocket Boom or loosely structured Carp Caviar, havea understandable structure. Experimental films have existed sinceEdison and others invented the technology of filmmaking. But itbecame a vibrant media once Griffith found and clearly displayed the60-120 minute, three act model in "Birth of a Nation". Within thatclear models of genres and forms -- the science fiction, crime (withsubgenre of noire), romance (subgenres of romantic-comedy, etc.),comedy, etc. sub-models --- resolved into modes of film _expression_. It is a mistake to narrowly define an art form. To say thatvideoblogging is just personal diaries or citizen journalism oranother type of genre _expression_. This is like saying film isadventure. It may be that adventure (or romantic or crime) films arethe most prevalent genres, but they are not the only genres that canexist and are interesting. It is the form of a duration around 90minutes with three acts that does define the cinematic form. And itis a video with blogging capability that may be the correct model thatdifferent genres of videoblogging exist in. That model may beincomplete or innacurate, but it should be proposed and tested againstcompeting models until the correct model is determined. Saying thatno model should be tested is quite possibly a recipe for flounderingand stagnation. -- Enric YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
I want to second all that Jan has said. When I first stumbled onto the world of vlogging, she was one of the first people to take the trouble to respond to my questions about cameras, computers, etc. She is someone who has slaved selfishly to help build this community. And she, so far as I know, has gotten little attention or public appreciation for her efforts. Her reward has been in the warm good feelings she has earned in helping others and being part of this community. She talks about riding a horse. I think of her as modern day Joan of Arc. Let's just hope they don't burn her at the stake someday in one of these ugly flame wars. Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Jan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging For the record, I don't ever want a *job and yes, vlogging *is in most respects my life. I've been working toward creating things that are served by what vlogging offers since I was but a wee lass in saddle shoes. If you feel on the outside ask yourself this: why do you begrudge folks who make vlogging their life and livlihood and the attention that has brought them? Churn. Yes. Definitely helps to bring new, talented folks to the top of the pot.Most of the directories have restructured their sites to feature new vloggers. What more do you want? As MM points out, becoming part of the community, posting regularly, being active in lots of groups and community effortswill bring you up through the ranks. All the popular vloggers have done this and more, and worked tirelessly to create this community. If you are new here you have no idea the time and effort they have invested. If what you want is to walk through the door and be lifted upon others' shoulders and given a gratuitous round of "For he's a jolly good fellow," forget it. It's not going to happen without work. Lots of work. If you think that "posting" to this or any list community means posting your URL and telling folks to visit your vlog it's not going to work. Share your expertise. Do something. Anything. But make it open source and on some level selfless. As I'm fond of saying, "Work hard; use the proper tools." When did it become a sin to promote friends and family? You want me to promote you? Do some small thing for me and then I will. No question. You want me to promote you? Become my friend. That means talk with me, promote me, help me, console and advise me. I will do the same for you. Videoblogging is not television, nor is it Hollywood. We have yet to discover a vlog-voice in terms of what styles fit best in a 320 x 240 or smaller screen in 3 minutes or less. We have yet to discover a way to have vlog conversations, link-love, and quotations, back-and-forthing as simple as bloggers do that. I think the style will be closeups on faces and things. Good sound design. Good, compact ideas. In short, the short film closer in. It is still very early in the game, folks. Cooperation and community rule. Gettin' off my low pony now. XOXOX, Jan -- "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - Road Node 101http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com - soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - communityhttp://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature. - Original Message - From: Michael I To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging Phenomenal response!Lets bring this together, expose the trials and triumphs.Your only as good as the tools provided and your only as good as the people around you. What can be done to neutralize the negative emotions around this subject?Is this a medium that can change perception? How easy it for us to find good content and make new people feel welcome?With so many variables, where or how can this been taken to the next level?Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Michael I wrote: Uh not to flog a dead horse but I remember some time back when Josh Leo loudly said the same thing...same song, same arugement.Is this something that should be addressed? I do not know the complete tift here but reading Manchessemo's complaint here has been metioned numerous times.Why is this? does it put a black eye the promotion of videoblogging? Do arugements like this leave a bad taste in peoples mouths? With this new "media" are people struggling to stay at the top? and in
Re: [videoblogging] block by block video
It will be interesting to see different perspectives on living somewhere. I'm hardly a fan of the Wall Street greasers you describe. However, when some of them died on 9/11, the town built a monument to them. I see we do patronize the same green grocer at 3rd Washington Street. Ever compare grocery prices in Manhattan with those at the Hoboken Shoprite? You'll save enough to pay your Cable, Internet phone bill right there. Young people partying in Hoboken translate into no parking places, people pissing in the parks, screams and slamming car doors all hours of the night. I see them lined up to get into the club opposite the Post Office (the one with steroid-inflated bouncers) and shudder to think they're capable of reproducing. My interactions with locals (since 1976) has always surprised me. Some of them might as well have been living in Ohio. I remember several telling me that they hadn't been to Manhattan (7 minutes 30 cents to $1.50 away) in twenty years. Randolfe (Randy) WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Adam Quirk To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] block by block video On 12/17/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll certainly set out and do a short piece on Hoboken, NJ--which is a bedroom community for Manhattan and has become the Ft. Lauderdale of New Jersey where all the young people gather to party. You make it sound much more exciting than it is :)The Hoboken I know isn't really a place to party. It's where I work, go to Biaggio's Deli for pastrami sandwiches at lunch, buy cheap fruit and veggies at the greengrocer on 3rd and Washington, and generally get along with the older Italian and Jewish inhabitants better than I get along with the Ugg-wearing fashionistas or the strutting Wall Street greasers that pour out of the PATH station between 6 and 7 every evening.I do agree that young people gather to party here though.And this idea is a good one. I just signed up for wayfaring.com. I'll try to get something together. AQbullemhead.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogging Howard Stern?
Great suggestion, Susan! It would have been interesting to capture some of his frenzied fans, etc. Just read your post. I'd already seen the coverage on TV so this one was too late. Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Susan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Vlogging Howard Stern? I know a lot of you folks are from the NYC area. That's where HowardStern is at, right? Is anyone going to vlog his last day on publicradio? Just curious...How many of us have thought to come to this forum to request specificvlogs?:)Susanhttp://vlog.kitykity.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
In an interview (podcast) with Michael Verdi, they talked about six different books on vlogging being in the works. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:47:07 +0100, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of the vloggy vastness... what up with the book of vlog? is that still being compiled? As far as I know it got picked up by a new publisher and is currently being (re)written. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2jUsvC/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: For next year: promote unknown vloggers
I've had a lot of interaction with the press in my day. You have to package yourself in a certain way. Any writer could use Susan as a soccer mom who vlogs when writing an article with that sort of slant. Right now, the focus is on the impact of this new media on old media. Susan, you should take the initiative and send some queries to magazines (or the local papers) suggesting they do an article on vlogging. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Susan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: For next year: promote unknown vloggers That sounds like a wonderful plan. Unfortunately for me, thehalf-dozen times I've been interviewed in the past few months, thereporter has seemed interested, but I still have yet to actually showup in an article... *sigh* I guess I need themed content. ;)Susanhttp://vlog.kitykity.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "petertheman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So here's my plan for next year (just thought of this): every time I talk to the press, I'll try to promote a few unknown videoblogs, instead of the usual suspects. Sorry usual suspects, but the newbies need the love more :) I'll make a list of newbie blogs that I like for myself so I have something handy. If not, I tend to mention the ones that come to mind, and those are the already famous ones that don't need my help promoting them. :) I'm *really* signing off now. 30 hour flight! Wooh! Peter -- http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: For next year: promote unknown vloggers
To try to demand mention from the press would be utter suicide. You would be better advised to lodge a more indirect personal complaint along the lines of: "You know I've talked to six reporters and none of them thought anything I said was worth quoting." That would be a guilt-throwing sympathy play that would work much better. The best thing is just to be as helpful and as informed as possible and hope they will appreciate the input and mention you. I've worked for hours and gotten only a line or two. Other times, I've talked just a little and gotten full page coverage. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: jonny goldstein To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: For next year: promote unknown vloggers Next time someone wants to interview you, you can say to them "Look,I've been interviewed 6 times in the last month, but I haven't beencited in any of the resulting stories. I'm happy to talk with you, butyou need to at least give me mention." And if they don't want to, theycan find someone else to talk to. You have as much power as they do. You don't have to play hardball like that, but it's an option, andthere's nothing wrong with doing so. Worst case scenario they don'twant to talk w/you.--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "taoofdavid65" [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds like a wonderful plan. Unfortunately for me, the half-dozen times I've been interviewed in the past few months, the reporter has seemed interested, but I still have yet to actually show up in an article... *sigh* I guess I need themed content. ;) Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com You got interviewed. At least someone spoke to you about what you are doing. Not sure why you would be interviewed yet have nothing appear in the article about you or your site at all? Rather odd doncha think? David http://www.taoofdavid.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging
Beautifully stated, Jonny. I'd put (b) in front of (a). I think those involved in teaching, linking, commenting, public speaking, writing books, creating aggregators,etc. deserve to get the most attention. I've noticed that Michael Verdi seems to be getting lost in the publicity rush. He and Ryanne are very special players because they taught many vloggers how to vlog through their Freevlog tutorials. Steve Garfield is slick, experienced and professional. With vlog soup, he mixes other vlogs into a more appetizing package (taking the best of each vlog to make a super-good whole). Obviously, doing a vlog for a politician that seemed to have played some part in an election is a vlogging application made-for-the-media. Ego is always at play with all of us. It doesn't even have to be something related to dreams of glory. It can be as simple as having a certain sense of integrity about your work which can be easily slighted with an off-the-cuff comment like the one directed at Josh Leo as being a college boy who vlogs about playing miniature gold while drunk...he's created a sizeable body of work that deserves a better description than that. KityKity is another popular vlogger who could be "dismissed" with a similar minimizing quote. Every vlogger should see that any reporter they deal with sees some of their "good" and compelling work. (KityKity did acharming vlog in which the billboards along the highway became min-screens (among others).) Jonny, you are someone who could come off in an article in any number of ways (all somewhat beyond your control)--as a serious educator and commentator and/or as a "silly comedian". The important thing is to learn as you go along. If one reporter slights you, just get up, keep going, shape your message a little differently and hope for better print the next time. Life doesn't start or end with getting your name in print. Famous today and forgotten tomorrow! Been there. Done that. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: jonny goldstein To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging The first movers in any social network have an advantage overlatecomers. That said, there's a fair amount of vloggers who startedaround when the folks discussed here started, and they don't get asmuch attention. Why do these folks get more attention? For the most part:a) They crank out good videos often.b) They are deeply involved in the social aspects of videoblogging(teaching, linking, commenting, reviewing, writing vlog related books,doing vlog related public speaking, creating tools for the vlogcommunity, setting up forums for interaction, organizing conferences).c) And yes, journalists are looking for the biggest bang for the leasteffort, so once people get established as "good," there's a biastoward referencing them in news stories--it's easy, and does the jobfor the journalist. d) Since people can't do much about c) vloggers who are looking formedia glory should focus on doing a) and b). Or...e) Relax, get a life, make a few videos now and then, and not freakout about being a star. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fail to see any purpose in boycotting anything, how would it change the issue? I suppose its natural that some will get annoyed with stuff they consider 'overexposed', but I dont think a solution has to be negative, I do not think this is a case where the 'old guard' are standing in the way of new videoblogs receiving attention, thats one of the benefits of videoblogging after all. I think its actually gone better than could be expected so far, very few examples of people coming along and trying to build their own hype via the shortcut of taking credit from the people who have actually helped build the scene. I am glad there is no single 'Adam Curry' figure of the videoblogging world. Judging by the sensitivity and flames that can come out of such discussions by videobloggers on topics such as motive, fame, ego, money etc, I expect anybody trying to be 'the vodfather' would be reasted by the vlogosphere. Such things are better when diluted, when there are many vlog brothers and sisters doing such thing, not a single 'great leader'. I am also interested in the fact that there seems to be quite a divide between videoblogs that are well promoted in mainstream media and various websites, and those video podcasts which are promoted via itunes. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ManCheeseMo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sure does get old reading what is basically the same article. My
Re: [videoblogging] Re: For next year: promote unknown vloggers
Now, they're going to say vloggers like KityKity do nothing but copy other vloggers like 'Drinking With Bob". I think everyone should do a "Drinking with" vlog. We'll have a contest to see if anyone can out-bob Bob. For sure, we'll all have a good time and a few hangovers to spare. I'll drink to that! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Susan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:54 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: For next year: promote unknown vloggers Wow... hardball. I never thought of that. But you can all see what ahard time Suzy has being tough, just look at the drinkingwithsuzyvideo I made yesterday. Even when I'm tough, I'm soft. ;)Susanhttp://vlog.kitykity.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "jonny goldstein"[EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Next time someone wants to interview you, you can say to them "Look, I've been interviewed 6 times in the last month, but I haven't been cited in any of the resulting stories. I'm happy to talk with you, but you need to at least give me mention." And if they don't want to, they can find someone else to talk to. You have as much power as they do. You don't have to play hardball like that, but it's an option, and there's nothing wrong with doing so. Worst case scenario they don't want to talk w/you. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "taoofdavid65" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds like a wonderful plan. Unfortunately for me, the half-dozen times I've been interviewed in the past few months, the reporter has seemed interested, but I still have yet to actuallyshow up in an article... *sigh* I guess I need themed content. ;) Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com You got interviewed. At least someone spoke to you about what you are doing.Not sure why you would be interviewed yet have nothing appear in the article about you or your site at all? Rather odd doncha think? David http://www.taoofdavid.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Anthology Film Archives Show: December 14th, 2005
I was at the screening and enjoyed it also. We should all adjourn to a nearby coffee shop or bar afterwards to socialize and talk after the screenings. They end early. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Seiden To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Anthology Film Archives Show: December 14th, 2005 Tom,I was at that screening and I enjoyed it very much. Nice job with the selection.JShttp://more3.blogspot.com On 12/16/05, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i had an opportunity and pleasure to curate Anthology Film ArchivesShow thanks node101, Ryanne Hodson and Jay Dedman.you can find vidshow plus permalinks to vids i used here:http://www.blip.tv/file/6764 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] TROLL ALERT (was Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging)
Steve, I wouldn't change that signature. You are a promoter, someone who helps announce the existence of this new thing called vlogging. At a vlogging event, maybe you could dress up in costume and ride a horse toward the TV execs warning them:"The Vloggers are coming! The Vloggers are coming!" It would be good media. Bet your picture would make the papers :) Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Steve Garfield To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] TROLL ALERT (was Re: Wall Street Journal: Videoblogging) Hey David Jr,I just looked up Paul Revere.http://darter.ocps.net/classroom/revolution/revere.htmYou are right.Thanks for pointing that out.Changing my footerLook forward to watching your show on Tuesday at 10:30 at http://www.davidjr.com/tvOn Dec 16, 2005, at 3:17 PM, ManCheeseMo wrote: Just look at that footer - Like Paul Revere, leading the media revlolution? What a joke. First of all Paul Revere didn't lead shit.--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.com--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] What happens on the road stays in the blog.
There is a fascinating article by a blogger about how conversations at a table can be reported by several different people from different perspectives in blogs, how none of us live in a truly private world any longer. Much of it is relevant to vlogging as well: http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleart_aid=37532 Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Help me out with my project - It'll only take you two minutes
I tried to respond but the email address you spelled out did not work. Type out your email address so one can simply click on it to send you a reply. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging.yahoogroups.com videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Help me out with my project - It'll only take you two minutes Hey, I'm busy procrastinating my current school project. My focus is of course videoblogging and I wanted to call upon the group to help me with a layout idea. I want to have a quote from a videoblogger at the top of each chapter. So I'm asking anyone who wants to help a poor student out to send me an e-mail at andreas [AT] solitude [DOT] dk where you: - Finish the sentence Videoblogging is... (be serious, be creative, be funny - up to you) - Include your videoblog URL With one optional step (I haven't decided if I want to use photos in my layout yet): - Include or link to a photo (headshot, or something video related). Must be print quality and must work in black/white (I will do the conversion) Send it to my personal e-mail (andreas [AT] solitude [DOT] dk) so it won't clutter up the list or start some new definition debate. What will you get out of this? Not much. As much as I like to think everyone is really interested in my project hardly anyone will read it. The project will be downloadable from the university project database (and it will be in Danish), but in reality not many apart from my advisor and his cronies will read the project. If I get more than one response I will post all responses to my blog. It hardly has any readers so I can't promise you fame or glory. Just gratitude. I hope to hear from some of you. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Help me out with my project - It'll only take you two minutes
I got his address from the return link and connected to his site in the link at the end to send him the information he requested. I posted the note because there was a time not that long ago when I might not have been so resourceful. I tried putting him in my address book but it didn't work right for the first two tries. Finally, it did. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Help me out with my project - It'll only take you two minutes I think the idea in spelling it out like that is to prevent spam bots from picking it up. So just replace the [AT] with @ and the [DOT] with a . and remove all the spaces and that's his address. It's a common practice and I can sypathize, I avoid publishing my email address as much as posible. Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to respond but the email address you spelled out did not work. Type out your email address so one can simply click on it to send you a reply. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "videoblogging.yahoogroups.com" videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Help me out with my project - It'll only take you two minutesHey, I'm busy procrastinating my current school project. My focus is of course videoblogging and I wanted to call upon the group to help me with a layout idea. I want to have a quote from a videoblogger at the top of each chapter. So I'm asking anyone who wants to help a poor student out to send me an e-mail at "andreas [AT] solitude [DOT] dk" where you: - Finish the sentence "Videoblogging is..." (be serious, be creative, be funny - up to you) - Include your videoblog URL With one optional step (I haven't decided if I want to use photos in my layout yet): - Include or link to a photo (headshot, or something video related). Must be print quality and must work in black/white (I will do the conversion) Send it to my personal e-mail (andreas [AT] solitude [DOT] dk) so it won't clutter up the list or start some new definition debate. What will you get out of this? Not much. As much as I like to think everyone is really interested in my project hardly anyone will read it. The project will be downloadable from the university project database (and it will be in Danish), but in reality not many apart from my advisor and his cronies will read the project. If I get more than one response I will post all responses to my blog. It hardly has any readers so I can't promise you fame or glory. Just gratitude. I hope to hear from some of you. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Offensive Police Video
I really had trouble deciding how to vote on the police video. I would have probably voted "amusing" or "harmless" or even "mildly offensive" except I was really troubled by the piece where the cop talked about being born mean. I actually voted "shocking" (a minority) for that reason. I don't think you can be as lenient with the "enforcers" in our society as you can be with other folks. Randolfe (Randy) Wickerhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Enric To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Offensive Police Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Pulecio[EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: A parody video that features uniformed and plainclothes SanFrancisco police officers and racist and sexist stereotypes has led tothe suspension of at least 20 police officers that participated increating or performing in the videos, intended as a spoof of life onthe force. . You can see this Offensive Police Video here: http://cbs5.com/local/local_story_341213127.html __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/The poll shows most people consider them humorous (47% when I voted).I voted them harmless. Considering that people have a right to theirview and creativity, as long as it didn't interfere with getting workdone I don't see any problem. -- Enric YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
How involved is that? How much would a digital recorder cost? What program do you need to sync the sound later? I have iMovie and Final Cut Express. I'm still learning the basics of iMovie. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jan McLaughlin To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? Another way around cameras without mic inputs would be to record the sound to a digital recorder and sync the sound to picture later.Jan-- "It isn't done alone. Pay more."http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - educationhttp://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com - soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - mediahttp://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature.On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Randolfe Wicker wrote: Thanks teaspace, I bought this mike. It really isn't very good. Actually, I paid $69 for it at BH a few months ago. On zoom, it helps a wee bit but "shotgun" makes the sound terrible. You are better off not using it at all. There is another mike that sells (lists) for about $150 and I'm not sure if that is just more of the "bad" stuff. Maybe, to get good sound, I'll just have to get a 3-chip camera with a mike jack. I don't like them because they are so large. Big cameras are intimidating. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: teaspace To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot shoe on my PC110 camera. You don't need any additional connections, and the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera. It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps something newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe: http://www.textkit.com/0_B00005T3BZ.html Randolfe Wicker wrote: I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video.Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - *From:* bottomunion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM *Subject:* [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks. Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51 .sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.si g=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.si g=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO 46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA -- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Ser
Re: [videoblogging] In NY next weekend?
I thought the Art Bar had been replaced by Node 101 where we all brought our own refreshments, food, etc. Is there supposed to be a meeting this Sunday? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Adam Quirk To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] In NY next weekend? The Art Bar thing is usually on the 2nd Sunday, which is this Sunday.Anyone planning on being there? On 12/8/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may find myself out in NY next weekend, and if so, I was wondering if anyone wanted to get together informally one night and talk about (or even do some collaborative) vlogging? I should be able to finalize my plans by this Friday, but thought I'd throw this idea out there to push me over the edge and head on out to NYC.http://tagami.comhey Ted--dont know about anyone elsebut you should come by then Node onSat/Sun afternoon to hang out. maybe we could get a group together.http://nyc.node101.org/jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] video release for kids
Current TV has all sorts of paperwork related to vlogging. I'm sure they have a model form written by the best lawyers. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: jonny goldstein To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: [videoblogging] video release for kids As part of the videoblogging project I'm managing for teens in NYC,kids' parents need to sign a release giving their kids permission tovlog under our supervision. In looking at what they signed, I think weneed more comprehensive release. Is there a good example out there?These kids are making blogs and posting images and video.Thanks! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] AVID parties
When I first started videotaping in earnest last summer, I met a professional filmmaker who gave me the lead to sign up to be invited to an AVID party. The party was at a very nice Club called La Strada in Chelsea. They had stations around the room where AVID technicians demonstrated their latest models. Alcohol was free. They even gave away free t-shirts. AVID systems are quite expensive and are used by real professionals. I eavesdropped on guys from major news networks talking about their rendering time problems, etc. They announced they would have AVID for Macs available by the end of 2005. I signed up again for their Holiday Party, held at Branch, between 2nd 3rd Avenues, on Manhattan's elegant East Side. My friend arrived a bit late so I had an hour and half to study the crowd and attempt eavesdropping. The attire was strictly informal, jeans, sweatshirts, casual clothing, etc. Males outnumbered females between 6 or 10 to one. Most were over forty with many in their fifties, sixties and older. The drinks were free, waiters and waitresses walked about with platters filled with crab cakes, shrimp with mango sauce, shish-ke-bob, fruit sticks, etc. It was the kind of place that had a butler in the men's room to hand you a towel after you washed your hands. The short official presentation talked about a system with "micro-server intelligence", "distributed intelligence" and declared "a new page in media workload had just been turned". The system cost between $20,000 and $30,000. They were all part of the "Unity Family" to share workload with "hardware designed for maximum longevity". The last line reminded me of overhearing a conversation between a salesman and an attendee at the last meeting in which the attendee said he had spent $8,000 four years earlier on equipment. He was told he should consider he had gotten his money out of that system and move on to the current one. All the talk about "intelligence" reminded me of those Immortalists looking forward to uploading themselves into cyborgs. I heard a couple people talking about "not editing much anymore" and overseeing editors. My friend goes to these events to network. He says he has gotten quite a few jobs through networking there. He must be doing something right because he now has a good new job with the news department ofone of the major Network TV channels in NYC. I doubt anyone there would even know what vlogging was about. A fellow wearing a "Mermaid Fair" t-shirt told me the wild looking fellow whose picture always appeared in news stories about Coney Island was head of the Polar Bear Club. He said that 700 or more people showed up every New Years Day at Coney Island to watch between thirty and forty-five "Polar Bear Members" go plunging into the surf for anywhere from a couple minutes to "quite some time". Oh well, that would be something to vlog. You usually hear about that kind of thing after the event. I guess even a vlogger can network at an AVID event. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...
My question wasn't to you. I asked Joan if she had been threatened with legal action. That is a totally different question. I have an entire file on "music" including freeplay music, etc. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment... Randolfe, PLEASE try searching the group archives once in a while.In this case, search for "Freeplay Music".Randolfe Wicker wrote: Joan, did you get threatened or contacted by the owners of the copyrighted music? So many vlogs use copyrighted music and I haven't heard anyone ever say they had to take that vlog down. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joan Khoo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment... Yes I have, unfortunately I had to take the video down because it was using copyrighted music. *sigh*But I still feel the satisfaction of crafting a video to my fancy.Joan-- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?
At the rate new vloggers are coming online, you might have many more than 200. I'd look for facilities that could easily hold 300 or more. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then? I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers thingy in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind of adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap accomodation would be over there and how I would find it, I also have the trip from JFK to new york to worry about and then where I will stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to drive on the left hand side of the road. So any ideas.just to be clear...we are still making arrangements for Vloggecon.the challnge is finding an affordable space that will fit 200+ people.it looks like we willneed to charge money for sign up to cover costs.we are shooting for a weekend between late april and early June.do you think that we need space for this many people?jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then?
The Chelsea is where Sid killed Nancy. (Maybe, you can stay in the very room where it happened and vlog any ghosts you encounter.) The Chelsea is an old hotel so if you like a somewhat "antique" environment, stay there. Actually, compared to other NYC Hotels, it is rather reasonably priced. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: hi guys, how about this meet the vloggers in NY, then? The Chelsea? Isn't that where Sid killed Nancy? I'm staying there!!Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Paul Knight wrote: how much cheap accomodation would be over there and how I would find it http://www.chelseahostel.com/ $28 - $70 depending on degree of privacy I also have the trip from JFK to new york to worry about $5 airtrain each way (buy $10 metrocard just for this ) + 7 day metrocard $24 (unlimited travel on all buses and subways)and then where I will stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to drive on the left hand side of the road. So any ideas. see above --- WWWhatsup NYC http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com --- SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos
If I recall correctly, a large area of eye focusing was along the lower part of the screen where the crawling bar tells you where you are in watching the video. Talking heads are less visually interesting so I suspect people would just watch the bar crawl while listening to what was being said for a few seconds at a time. However, if you had the screen filled with fast paced action, that part of the screen might get very little attention. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Richard Show To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Jakob Nielson On Talking-Head Videos Gena ... thanks for the interesting post, I do a lot of work in usability and human-computer interaction research and am quite familiar with Jakob Nielson, so thanks for the opportuntity to allow me to pontificate in a boring academic manner :) ... First of all, although Jakob Nielson has done a lot to promote usability, his claims have always been suspect with me. In fact, when I saw this Alert Box referred to in this thread I thought about posting it to the list too, but then figured that, based on what I know about Jakob Nielson's work, I figured that people may take it too seriously. So what I would emphasize in interpreting anything Jakob Nielson says is to take it with a grain of salt ... he states things as hard and fast facts, based on research, when, in fact I would call them more like educated opionions ... for example, let's take this one1) Rarely does any eye tracking research indicate that anyone stares at anything for a long period of time ... are eyes are not really "designed" that way2) The data he shows you in his example is a sample size of 1 ... this is not the summation of a lot of eye tracking data, nor does it give any indication of the degree of error associated with all of the different participants3) Most importantly, his criterion (operational definition) for "boring" was eyes moving throughout the page, but I think there's a pretty big distance between this operation and this construct ... seems like the better thing would have been time-on-task or self-report of "boringness"4) Maybe even more important, he makes this giant claim about comparing TV to the web, and how these data indicate that talking head video on the web is boring as compared to TV, but I don't see any data about eye tracking data associated with watching TV ... do people who watch TV just stare at the face and not let their eyes wander? even if they do, would the wondering be associated with the fact that a TV just has a face, but no other stuff on the screen?... the other intersting thing to me is that the "active - web" and "passive - TV" thing is going to blur more and more as the two devices television and computer monitor/keyboard start to merge and the web becomes a part of all these devices... Perhaps what he concludes is true, but it is certainly my view that he does not provide us with any reasonably emperical test to support it and, in fact, if a real experiment was conducted to try and examine the relationship between video characteristics and "boredom", I would imagine you would find that there are some other major variables that would mediate this to a larger extent, for example, nature of the content, expressiviness of the talking head (there's a lot that a face can add to a voice, as we all know from watching someone speaking) ... and of course, there's a whole host of issues having to do with the context in which someone is watching the video (I would put rocketboom with a talking head up against most "action videos", including my own, and I'm thinking the action would tend to be more boring - but that's an opinion, not based on any research)... well, that whole discussion demonstrates thata) I must be a college professor, who teaches stuff like research design, or how could I possibly write stuff so boringb) As Sam Rayburn said "any damn mule can kick down a barn, but it takes something to build one" (it's a lot easier to criticize research than do it)c) I'm obviously jealous that I don't have a web news letter on usability that attracts a zillion readers per news letter... Richard On 12/4/05, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Not really suppose to be doing this - finishing up on my classpresentation (down to my last three paragraphs) but I came across aninteresting page on http://www.useit.com/alertbox/video.html Jakob Nielson is well known in the web design community.He did anstudy on where viewers eyes travel on computers screen watching video.He questions if broadcast video
Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment...
Joan, did you get threatened or contacted by the owners of the copyrighted music? So many vlogs use copyrighted music and I haven't heard anyone ever say they had to take that vlog down. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joan Khoo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: That perfect moment... Yes I have, unfortunately I had to take the video down because it was using copyrighted music. *sigh*But I still feel the satisfaction of crafting a video to my fancy.Joan On 12/6/05, jadelr21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know exactly what you mean.I find that the episodes of our show ("Chasing Windmills") that we arein love with rarely get the attention that our lesser episodes get.This always produces a strange feeling. The night before we post we look at the finished episode and every once in a while, wheneverything just seems to fall into place, we are in awe of ourselves.The episode is cool, it has many levels to it, the soundtrack reallyadds another diomension to it, the shots are interesting, etc... We post, and the next day we barely get a comment. Yet other episodes,which we never totally fall in love with (this is most of them)because we don't feel that what we wanted to communicate really cameacross, or the angles and the images just seem flat, those really resonate with people.You just never know.jadelrhttp://chasingmills.blogspot.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes, I have had that experience.I had it twice, two times in arow.The amazing thing was one of those vlogs got 11 views while the other racked up 200 views in a couple days. Now, that means that two "magical" vlogs got wildly differentreceptions. That is really somewhat of a bummer.I would have said that the more popular one might have been "twice" as popular.I never expectedit to be twenty times as popular. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Tim D To: Videoblogging Group Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: [videoblogging] That perfect moment... I want to turn the page for a minute.Move away from the technical aspects of software and cameras and celebrity.Talk about the organics of vlogging.Stick with me.Listen while I flow.Have you experienced that moment?You know the one I mean...when you've finished editing a video, and it's perfect.You can just feel that it's exactly the way it needs to be.You don't want to touch one more millisecond of footage.Maybe you're editing film of an event that meant a great deal to you.Maybe you're making it for someone else so that they can experience what you did.Or maybe you're just documenting a memory that you can watch whenever you need a laugh...or a cry.A smile curves your lips.You find yourself watching it over and over again.The sound track is right, the cuts are right. Everything is right.Everything comes together, like vlog Nirvana. How does it feel for you?Is it Physical?Emotional?Both?Have you experienced it? I have.It rocks. Tim -- realitysandwich.typepad.com wearethemedia.com-- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a..Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b..To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c..Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms ofService.-- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today!http://us.click.yahoo.com/I258zB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: 'Podcast' named word of the year
Actually, if you consider the few vlogs that would be considered to be "shows", you have a group of vlogs that have content that is generally far above average. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: wtrainbow To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:16 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: 'Podcast' named word of the year Apple seems to suggest through their nomenclature that both audio and video are both podcasts. They don't seem to make a distinction. They now have a video category but it is falls with their podcasts section. After reviewing their selections for "video features" though they seem to be biased toward the "show" variety and appear negligent in representing videoblogs. Willhttp://www.tiny-tube.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: point well taken, matt. i am half goofing these days about the words. its like the last burst of givashit i got ;-) tell them its a vodcast... fuel that! hell, its shorter =) On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. But I have statistical proof that the word "podcast" has helped build traffic for Ridertech.com, a ski/snowboard vlog where most subscribers use iTunes. According to what I've seen on ski/snowboard message boards, most people have no idea what RSS w/ media enclosures is, and many don't even know what to do with Bloglines. When I say "video blog" to someone who has never seen a vlog, I then test the waters with "video podcast" and that usually clicks for them. I'd rather not have to say that, but it helps them to understand. Most people associate podcast with something they can subscribe to. Who knows, maybe "video podcast" will get bumped out by some Tivo-branded word in a few months. Anyways, I don't really care what people call it and I do not try to market these terms... other than using it as a last attempt to explain vloggging/RSS and of course for SEO (where "ski podcast" and "snowboard podcast" produce a few referrals each day). As long as skiers and snowboarders enjoy the content, I'm happy. So far, the feedback from the snow-loving community has been amazing. The sad part is most people still don't subscribe even after telling them they can. They'd rather check back every few days than try to understand RSS. Some even watch old videos they've already seen until we post new ones. (Yes, skiers and snowboarders are usually fanatical.) Either way, I appreciate the viewers we have on whatever you want to call it. No matter our personal opinions of the word, my only point in all this is that the word "podcast" has helped gain visitors and subscribers. Oh, and I only use the word for Ridertech and not my other two vlog-related sites. Most vlogs are watched by fellow vloggers, but Ridertech is not. -Matt --- http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with video blogging, but it works to build an audience. Ummm... it doesn't work as well as good content. Rocketboom does not use the word "podcast" on their site anywhere (though they used to use "vlog"). Ryanne's Video Blog is called exactly that... "Ryann'es Video Blog". SEO takes you only so far... to get and retain viewers, the best thing you can do is make good stuff and make it often. -Josh On 12/5/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Let the debate continue... The editors of the New Oxford American Dictionary have selected"podcast" as the Word of the Year for 2005. Podcast will be defined as "a digital recording of a radio broadcastor similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading toa personal audio player." The word will be added to the next online update of the New OxfordAmerican Dictionary, due in early 2006. http://tinyurl.com/cnqz6 For the record, I agree podcast is a lame term to associate with videoblogging, but it works to build an audience. Of course, that is onlyif you want one. -Matt ---http://ridertech.comhttp://leanbackvids.com http://vlogmap.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- sull - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: bottomunion To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks.Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses "art" as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten "art" vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. "Directories" are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an "artist" or in "art class" doesn't mean thatyou make "good" art.I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the "good" backto the subject of thread please. :-)-joshOn 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] IPod Video Dating
I checked this link out. What was interesting is that I clicked twenty pictures before finding the first one that had video on it. It just shows how few people know about posting video onto the Internet. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Michael I To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] IPod Video Dating does it get any better than this?andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . .with tags!http://www.poddater.com/MIck Ihttp://www.idvfilms.blogspot.comhttp://www.idvfilms.comAloha Yahoo! PersonalsLet fate take it's course directly to your email.See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Petertheman says: "Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lotto each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is." I think linking is frequently done on the basis that the more links you put on your site, the more hits you get. For that reason, at least with websites, you link to anyone who will link back to you. I have noticed some vloggers who have great vlogs and who link to others who have outstanding vlogs. However, I also have seen people with a long list of links that are essentially meaningless. Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories You're assuming that the lact of a directory is a problem.Here's my view. First, with video, you need a lot more info to decide where to putyour attention than with text, because video demands more attention(you can't just quickly scan it like a text post, for example). So forvideo, you need more filters, metadata, information that helps youdecide what to put your limited attention towards. It's an attentionwar. Hence, directories can be useful.Second: we as vloggers, for some reason, aren't really linking a lotto each other's videos. I'm not sure why that is. But it does meanthat we have less interlinking than textbloggers to help peoplediscover new stuff. Hence, a directory makes sense, again.Third: search for video is an unsolved problem, and will continue tobe, especially for our type of long tail video. Hence, .. you get thepicture :)Then again I could be wrong also and Google might come out with agreat algorythmic way to find videos you want to watch, or we mightall start linking like crazy to each others videos and we wouldn'tneed directories to discover cool stuff. Oh well.Peter--http://mefeedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast
What is the purpose for podcast installments like this? Is it to develop a "following" that will ultimately turn into box office sales? Or is this just an extended pitch to interest backers in financing or purchasing the movie? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting "video podcast" for an independent filmhttp://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/very nice vlogthanks paul! good catch-- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.ushttp://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.comhttp://spinflow.orghttp://wearethemedia.comhttp://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions?
Thanks teaspace, I bought this mike. It really isn't very good. Actually, I paid $69 for it at BH a few months ago. On zoom, it helps a wee bit but "shotgun" makes the sound terrible. You are better off not using it at all. There is another mike that sells (lists) for about $150 and I'm not sure if that is just more of the "bad" stuff. Maybe, to get good sound, I'll just have to get a 3-chip camera with a mike jack. I don't like them because they are so large. Big cameras are intimidating. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: teaspace To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I have a Sony ECMHS1 mic that simply mounts onto the intelligent hot shoe on my PC110 camera. You don't need any additional connections, and the mic pattern even follows the zoom on the camera.It gets mixed reviews here, but you could try it or perhaps something newer if your sony camera has the intelligent shoe:http://www.textkit.com/0_B5T3BZ.htmlRandolfe Wicker wrote: I have a problem insofar as my Sony HC42 mini-dv camera only has a shoe on top and two clip on microphones available. I really need to have some way to get direct mick plug in. Is there some sort of wireless of plug in microphone that can be connected via the shoe on top of the camera? It's really ridiculous because the camera cost $800 last March. I really thought I had researched everything but I didn't think of the audio. I have a wireless mike for my old Hi8 camcorder. Audio is really almost 50% of good video. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - *From:* bottomunion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* videoblogging@yahoogroups.com mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:18 AM *Subject:* [videoblogging] External camcorder mic suggestions? I'm in desperate need of an external mic for a small camcorder. I've been shopping around for one, but haven't found any ones I like. This would have to be compact, and fit on a handsized camcorder, small enough to keep the whole package (camcorder and mic) small. Just throwing this out to see if anyone might have suggestions, possible solutions. Thanks. Bottom Union, Esq. SPONSORED LINKS Individual http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Individualw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=IkmOF87iVVg5aOV5s-5ShQ Fireant http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Fireantw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=H15DYYUHQoulfARYZSKttA Typepad http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Typepadw1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=bK2vbSrJUIzcRadddW7krQ Use http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msk=Usew1=Individualw2=Fireantw3=Typepadw4=Usec=4s=51.sig=RO46LszR1YSPWsK2mib1pA YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "videoblogging http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
ManCheeseMo says: "For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff." Funny, you would mention an idea like this. I walked down 8th Street in NYC the other evening. First, there was a "games store" which was closed but had a bunch of people painting figurines which were for sale in the front window. Thought that would be interesting. I hadn't gone a block before I found myself passing in front of a "Modeling and Sculpture" school. That would be another interesting vlog. Suddenly, I thought what a great serial-vlog it would be to go block by block in NYC doing vlogs about the most interesting thing on each block. If you were teaching a class on vlogging, you could just take a section of the City, give each student a block and leave it up to them to pick something on that block to videotape and create a vlog about. This would create a fascinating social history. One could dedicate one's life to doing it alone but I would get tired after a while. Commercially, I could imagine store's being willing to pay XXX dollars to have a vlog done about them. That wouldn't interest me and will probably be considered "off topic" and "business" on this list. Still, I think the idea of creating a series of vlogs around the idea of blocks, or even "art galleries", or restaurants, whatever, would be interesting. I think a series on venues for "comedy" would be uniquely funny and interesting to those interested in comedy. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: ManCheeseMo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it. Basically anyone who uses the existing podcast features may want tohave video rather than just audio.Travelers for one. They may want to use their (soon-to-be-available)Tivo-2-Go service to dump recorded shows down to their portabledevice. Then there would be no need to buy 'Lost' from iTunes if youhave Tivo and could transfer it. Another option would be for tourguide stuff. For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff. Even the people I do"know" are hard to watch do nothing. The biggest reason I couldjustify buying a video iPod would be to take it out and share videowith others.Basically it comes down to this. Rather than being limited torecieving video on your television or computer, you could take itanywhere once it is on the iPod. That makes you a walking mediacenter. You could plug it into any TV or PC and watch it there.Rumor has it that Apple is working on wireless for the iPod so thatyou really could broadcaster to others around you.Again, the content isn't really here yet. Or at least not enough ofit or the type of content to justify my purchase.--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! Please go into some possibilities! That's the part I want to know! I want to know what "creating this market" means! Market for...???Sure, if I hadn't just gotten an ipod relatively recently I WOULD be begging for one of the new ones, although maybe not for the same reasons as others. Other people's reasons are what I'm curious about! "Viewers will find the need"? Okay, right on, man! But for what? Help me out, here. bekah http://missbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ManCheeseMo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is only the way YOU use these technologies and does not represent everyone else's needs/desires. There are too many possibilities to go into, but I find it ironic that you see the value in portable photos but not video.The video iPod is only the first attempt at serving a market that is still being created. Sure you may not be begging for a video iPod this Christmas, but the content will catch up and the viewers will find the need - even if you do not. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just poking my head in. Mouthing off. Don't wish to offend. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ipod is really cool, and Ilike a new geeky gadget as much as the next person, but I have the same feeling I had when they came out with the Photo ipod, which is
Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories
Even highlighting the number of hits a vlog got might be helpful. It would have the negative effect of those with the most hits (earned or not) would keep getting more. However, that would be like having a "best-seller" list for books. You know the "best-sellers" are worth looking at more closely. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Has anyone thought of using the Digg.com model for creating a directory? Well maybe not a directory exactly, but something like it. Maybe it would be more analogous to Apples editorialized listings of featured podcasts except the community would be the editors. The ones that get the most votes move up to the front page--like news stories do on Digg.com. It might work best for individual vlog posts than with entire vlogs. I dunno. It's an idea. I was just thinking about how cool that model is for news and if it would work for other types of content. I would like to see a Digg for other types of news too, like politics or medicine.I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh is right about categories not really being good arbitrators of how good content might be. He uses "art" as an example. That is a very good choice. I find that nine out of ten "art" vlogs I watch to be very boring. Then I see one which simply blows me away. Taste is a very subjective thing. "Directories" are the topic but what we really need are reviewers and people who filter content for us. You would quickly recognize those people who directed you to great material. You'd also learn to avoid those whose taste did not match yours. Directories without reviews are almost worthless. An alternative would be directories where vlog producers could post one-paragraph ads (their own review) for their vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Joshua Kinberg To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: making directories Just because you're an "artist" or in "art class" doesn't mean that you make "good" art. I want Directories, or systems, that help me find the "good" back to the subject of thread please. :-) -josh On 12/4/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 19:35:20 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you're in Art class. ;) Damn hippies. :o) Anyway, in that (small) community it would be a western. You're right about that. :o) - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] making directories
Jan's observation: "I use the idea of capturing the "reality" of life as an impetus to make efforts toward crafting life as a more interesting "show"." This sounds a bit like the idea that people "act up" to make themselves more interesting while being filmed. I see a whole new school of "video therapy" possible here! Tired, bored, lonely, life lacking interest and zest? Vlogging can bring joy back into your life, help you connect with other people, take your mind off your problems, allow you to share your inner life with others! Yes, you can even substitute 'vlogging mania' for IAD (Internet Addiction Disorder). Break away from the computer and start a new life with your video camera in hand! Actually, I can almost agree with the foregoing...at times. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jan McLaughlin To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] making directories I think Andrew's on to something here. To my mind, the "reality" element of what vlogging captures is one of its many charms.I use the idea of capturing the "reality" of life as an impetus to make efforts toward crafting life as a more interesting "show".Dig?Jan-- "It isn't done alone. Pay more."http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - educationhttp://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com - soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - mediahttp://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature.On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:43 PM, andrew michael baron wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Brad Webb wrote: Let's extend the "show" analogy a bit... To me, most videoblogs are *segments*. Only when you have multiple segments, does it become a *show*. I view *show* in this context as much more of a "container" than simply anything. That's just my opinion on it, and my knee-jerk, though. What about a "reality show" like MTV Realworld. What if the Magical Mystery Tour was blogged? Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Thanks for that suggestion. It would work if people knew they could get the information that way. Maybe a text message on top of the links. Visible text under the link would be so much better. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Philip Clark To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this?well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.'something like this-- a href=""http://jonnygoldstein.com/">http://jonnygoldstein.com/" title="Great humor!"Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!'more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99--xo philiphttp://swordfight.org videobloghttp://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vloghttp://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
Wow, I never thought of that. That is even more evidence that "links" are artificial ways to rise in search engines rather than real connections to other people/vloggers. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Streeter To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories I use Wordpress and it allows you to ad comments to each link. But I don't use this feature, I opt to categorize my links. So I guess that accomplishes kind of the same thing. One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? I rarely if ever visit any actual video blog unless I'm commenting and the comment pages of most blogs don't show the links. It seems that at that point links are more important to machines (like search engines) seeing relationships than for humans. Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone should develop "explained" linking. In other words, if I link to jonny goldstein (which I have) I say (great humor). That would help people decide if they were interested. If this can be done and I just don't know how, excuse my ignorance. Has anyone done this? well... i s'pose you could use the 'title' attribute with your 'a href.' something like this-- a href=""http://jonnygoldstein.com/">http://jonnygoldstein.com/" title="Great humor!"Jonny Goldstein/a that way, whenever anyone moves their cursor over the Jonny Goldstein link, a little box pops up as a tooltip containing the words 'Great humor!' more at: http://tinyurl.com/6uo99 -- xo philip http://swordfight.org videoblog http://destroyhotaction.com remix pr0n vlog http://vlogforum.org videoblog messageboard YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: interesting use of a video podcast
I've been thinking of doing the same with video material I filmed for a documentary on street fairs. I just don't want to make my own vlog too one-dimensional. Where would you go to start a separate series of vlogs for a specialized project like this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Bill Day To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: interesting use of a video podcast Foureyedmonsters has been on the film festival circuit for about a year. They have and interesting movie but the distributors have not been impressed enough to cough up a distribution deal. The young filmmakers have proven themselves as maverick self distributors... At this stage it is just a way for you to look at their movie. They just shot and edited a blog intro and then cut in scenes from their movie. Clever! Bill--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the purpose for podcast installments like this? Is it to develop a "following" that will ultimately turn into box office sales? Or is this just an extended pitch to interest backers in financing or purchasing the movie? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: [videoblogging] interesting use of a video podcast Paul Sanchez sent me a link to an interesting "video podcast" for an independent film http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ very nice vlog thanks paul! good catch -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
You're making me consider buying an iPod for the first time. You should become a salesman for Apple! :-) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: David Meade To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it. I purchased a video iPod and use it mainly for video. I do understandyour question though. Video takes (for me anyway) a bit moreattention than music to enjoy ... and so you cant really (or at leastI cant) enjoy video while driving or trying to write a document etc...However I live my lil' video iPod.I spend alot of time in air ports for example. I often find myselfthere waiting for hours trying to get on an earlier standby flight. Video iPod for the win! I usualy have at least a handfull of videoson there I havent gotten around to watching yet, and there are alwaysthe favorites that I cant get enough of. Airports, on long trainrides etc.Also, the iPod is a pretty good transport method for media (not just aviewing platform, but also a mobile hard disk). So I can totallyimagine business uses ... video presentations (techincal, advertising,legal, all sorts of stuff) could be stored on the ipod and easilyplugged into a conference room projector when you arrive at the clientsite.I've got a bunch of videos that I'm dying to show some of my family... they aren't interested in finding video on the web, but I at theholidays I can plug in the iPod to the TV and introduce them to someof the content right in the living room.- Dave--http://www.DavidMeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it.
When checking out flights, consider Newark as well as JFK if international flights go there. Rooms are pricey in NYC. "Priceline" and other search engines allow you to type in the times you need and the rates you want to pay. You won't need any car in NYC. It would be a nightmare. We use public transportation. This list might be a good place for vloggers to "host" each other for the big conference in April. Wouldn't staying with another vlogger be more fun? And saving $100 or so a night would leave money for cabs and restaurants. You could also stay a day or two longer to take in some sightseeing. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Paul Knight To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it. I am seriously thinking of coming to the NY meet the vloggers thingy in April, which means a 7 hour flight and hoping that my camera battery can be charged over there, don't worry I know which kind of adaptor I will need etc, but I was wondering, how much cheap accomodation would be over there and how I would find it, I also have the trip from JFK to new york to worry about and then where I will stay, I also have trouble driving in big cities, so cabs and or buses or trains has got to be the only option, due to me only being able to drive on the left hand side of the road. So any ideas. Paul knight (pjkproductions) On 5 Dec 2005, at 22:05, Randolfe Wicker wrote: ManCheeseMo says: "For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff." Funny, you would mention an idea like this. I walked down 8th Street in NYC the other evening. First, there was a "games store" which was closed but had a bunch of people painting figurines which were for sale in the front window. Thought that would be interesting. I hadn't gone a block before I found myself passing in front of a "Modeling and Sculpture" school. That would be another interesting vlog. Suddenly, I thought what a great serial-vlog it would be to go block by block in NYC doing vlogs about the most interesting thing on each block. If you were teaching a class on vlogging, you could just take a section of the City, give each student a block and leave it up to them to pick something on that block to videotape and create a vlog about. This would create a fascinating social history. One could dedicate one's life to doing it alone but I would get tired after a while. Commercially, I could imagine store's being willing to pay XXX dollars to have a vlog done about them. That wouldn't interest me and will probably be considered "off topic" and "business" on this list. Still, I think the idea of creating a series of vlogs around the idea of blocks, or even "art galleries", or restaurants, whatever, would be interesting. I think a series on venues for "comedy" would be uniquely funny and interesting to those interested in comedy. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: ManCheeseMo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:24 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Portable Video. I'm not sure I give a crap. I want to, but I don't get it. Basically anyone who uses the existing podcast features may want tohave video rather than just audio.Travelers for one. They may want to use their (soon-to-be-available)Tivo-2-Go service to dump recorded shows down to their portabledevice. Then there would be no need to buy 'Lost' from iTunes if youhave Tivo and could transfer it. Another option would be for tourguide stuff. For example, you could get info on places toeat/shop/drink in NYC from a local vlogger.Personally, I do not have much of a need either, but I recognize thisas having huge potential. I'm a big fan of themed content and don'treally care for personal-diary style stuff. Even the people I do"know" are hard to watch do nothing. The
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories
I love Steve Garfield's stuff in general and "Vlog Soup" in particular. Indeed, Steve's soups are super but that is because he knows how to take a lot of mediocre stuff (the best of each) and whip it into a super mix. I checked out some of his links and saw that he had a great eye for those few unique seconds in an otherwise boring vlog. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Devlon To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Making directories Steve Garfield's "Vlog Soup" posts are a great example of such links. He's got a link in the post for every single site that is mentioned inthe video.On 12/5/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:58:52 +0100, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the problems of linking in an aggregated media world is the fact that if you get most of your vlogs via aggregator then how likely are you to see links on any given blog? Since adding links to the videos themselves is too friggin' hard for the common man right now... Write like a blogger. A video description could look like this: "I saw Joe's attempt at making pancakes yesterday. This morning I decided to try it myself. I used to recipe Jane posted last month." With links to: - Joe's blog - Joe's entry with his failed pancake attempt - Jane's blog - Jane's recipe Adapt for your videos, spread some links around. Rinse and repeat. - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links--~Devlonhttp://mefeedia.com/See what we are up to:http://mefeedia.com/blog/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Rich Media Insider
I subscribe to a number of free media publications. They come up with stories now and then like this one about how video is being used by business on the Internet. http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleart_send_date=2005-12-5art_type=33 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Rec. Host Provider??
DreamHost is favored by many. You can sometimes get "discount coupons" on the Internet. Beware of "referrals" because if you list someone as a referrer, you can't use the discount coupon and the person referring you gets something like 25% of all your future purchases on DreamHost. I suspect this "referral fee" stuff is widespread. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: havilahland33 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Rec. Host Provider?? I am thinking about finding my own host besides blogspot. Anysuggestions from the videobloggers on which host would be a goodquality and affordable choice? Thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider
eive this newsletter in the future click here. We welcome and appreciate forwarding of our newsletters in their entirety or in part with proper attribution. (c) 2005 MediaPost Communications, 1140 Broadway, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10001 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Randolfe Wicker To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider I subscribe to a number of free media publications. They come up with stories now and then like this one about how video is being used by business on the Internet. http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleart_send_date=2005-12-5art_type=33 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. sel?cmd=bandat=71032opt=0rdm=12059200 Description: Binary data sel?cmd=bandat=71033opt=0rdm=12059200 Description: Binary data sel?cmd=bandat=117785opt=0rdm=12059200 Description: Binary data
Re: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider
The link in the first post just takes you to the sign in page. I'll try posting just the text here: BE THEY PUBLISHERS, ADVERTISERS OR consumers, everyone's mad for video. Higher Internet speeds are giving netizens the concentration of prime-time TV with the freedom of VCRs, leaving publishers and advertisers with the choice to either publish (anything consumers could possibly want online) or perish. Text will no longer suffice. Indeed, Conde Nast Publications--a company with about as much experience in publishing video as Rubbermaid--last week revealed its plans to launch three new broadband video-heavy destination sites next year. That said, with the help of Unicast's venerable general (manager) Larry Allen, I'll run through some guidelines for you to keep in mind when deploying video ads. Firstly, it's important to note that most agencies have plenty of experience with video production so long as they're familiar with a popular pastime known as TV. For this reason, broadband video production shouldn't present too huge a conceptual leap. Now it's time for the thinking caps. Identify a video asset that can translate to the interactive environment, or conceptualize a creative element to accompany/improve the video. Bear in mind, interactive video is not a mere dumping ground for repurposed TV spots. The medium is maximized when concepts are developed that leverage video, which is shot specifically for a Web environment and contains interactive elements within the video. Allen recommends shooting the video in digital format to take advantage of the scale and cost efficiencies it can provide. By shooting and editing digital video, one can develop the standard 30-second spot, but more importantly create multiple interactive concepts efficiently with a series of hidden "easter eggs" or additional video vignettes built into the storyline. Interlacing flash, 3-D and high-resolution images with the video (once production is complete) gives consumers a heightened engagement experience. Some other features that are beneficial or can drive viral buzz are "click to full screen," "e-mail video," and "data capture" integrated directly into the video experience. Upon final integration of the creative, a full service rich media provider can help deploy the video ad units. One of the biggest challenges marketers face with video online is consistent quality. Many publishers encode video to different specifications leading to varying ad quality for the end user. This is especially true with in-stream pre-roll advertisements. By leveraging a rich media provider, the marketer will get the highest quality video delivery experience consistently across the various ad formats and publishers on the media plan. When employing a rich media provider, be sure it can provide key engagement metrics like ad display time, detailed user interactions, and a frequency index. These metrics provide the marketer with the ability to assess performance of the creative and determine its contribution to branding and direct response. By comparing performance among the different creative executions you can adjust delivery based on audience and context to ensure optimal performance. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Randolfe Wicker To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider I subscribe to a number of free media publications. They come up with stories now and then like this one about how video is being used by business on the Internet. http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleart_send_date=2005-12-5art_type=33 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. sel?cmd=bandat=117785opt=0rdm=12059200 Description: Binary data
Re: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider
Here's proof to never believe anything you read and only half of what you see. I tried posting this article and got the following message: Blogger does not accept application/octet-stream files.Error code: 7.28E16D So, I tried copying just the text part of the article and posting that. Then I discovered that both posts had gone through despite my "rejection" notice. Sorry for the double posting. Blame it on Blogger. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Randolfe Wicker To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider The link in the first post just takes you to the sign in page. I'll try posting just the text here: BE THEY PUBLISHERS, ADVERTISERS OR consumers, everyone's mad for video. Higher Internet speeds are giving netizens the concentration of prime-time TV with the freedom of VCRs, leaving publishers and advertisers with the choice to either publish (anything consumers could possibly want online) or perish. Text will no longer suffice. Indeed, Conde Nast Publications--a company with about as much experience in publishing video as Rubbermaid--last week revealed its plans to launch three new broadband video-heavy destination sites next year. That said, with the help of Unicast's venerable general (manager) Larry Allen, I'll run through some guidelines for you to keep in mind when deploying video ads. Firstly, it's important to note that most agencies have plenty of experience with video production so long as they're familiar with a popular pastime known as TV. For this reason, broadband video production shouldn't present too huge a conceptual leap. Now it's time for the thinking caps. Identify a video asset that can translate to the interactive environment, or conceptualize a creative element to accompany/improve the video. Bear in mind, interactive video is not a mere dumping ground for repurposed TV spots. The medium is maximized when concepts are developed that leverage video, which is shot specifically for a Web environment and contains interactive elements within the video. Allen recommends shooting the video in digital format to take advantage of the scale and cost efficiencies it can provide. By shooting and editing digital video, one can develop the standard 30-second spot, but more importantly create multiple interactive concepts efficiently with a series of hidden "easter eggs" or additional video vignettes built into the storyline. Interlacing flash, 3-D and high-resolution images with the video (once production is complete) gives consumers a heightened engagement experience. Some other features that are beneficial or can drive viral buzz are "click to full screen," "e-mail video," and "data capture" integrated directly into the video experience. Upon final integration of the creative, a full service rich media provider can help deploy the video ad units. One of the biggest challenges marketers face with video online is consistent quality. Many publishers encode video to different specifications leading to varying ad quality for the end user. This is especially true with in-stream pre-roll advertisements. By leveraging a rich media provider, the marketer will get the highest quality video delivery experience consistently across the various ad formats and publishers on the media plan. When employing a rich media provider, be sure it can provide key engagement metrics like ad display time, detailed user interactions, and a frequency index. These metrics provide the marketer with the ability to assess performance of the creative and determine its contribution to branding and direct response. By comparing performance among the different creative executions you can adjust delivery based on audience and context to ensure optimal performance. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 ----- Original Message - From: Randolfe Wicker To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Rich Media Insider I subscribe to a number of free media publications. They come up with stories now and then like this one about how video is being used by business on the Internet. http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleart_send_date=2005-12-5art_type=33 Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvi
Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones
Doesn't watching videos in your phone count as cell phone minutes? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Adam Quirk To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: vodcasts in cellphones On 12/5/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Tagami wrote: what phone do you use Pete?Nokia 7610 http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/7610 A few more questions about all this: 1.) What other phones are people using to watch videos? What features do you like about it (related to video).2.) Can you make a 3GP video fast-start from a phone, like QT does in browsers?3.) Is it possible to stream a 10-15 minute video to a phone using a QT streaming server? 4.) Verizon users: I'm aware that Verizon is offering Vcast, but that is a closed system right? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] First Video Post
Gosh, that's the smallest video I've ever seen on the Internet. If you ever become "big" in vlogging, you can always claim that you started out as "the smallest of all"! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] First Video Post nice startyou might consider enabling commentsvideoblogging is about more than just posting video to the webHarold J. Johnson wrote:Season's Greetings, everyone,I've been subscribed to this group for about a year, but I haven'tposted much beyond an early introduction. I'm a podcaster - an audiopodcaster - but I've been watching and learning a bit aboutvideoblogging since about this time last year; I even "virtuallyattended" the first VloggerCon this past January.I'm focused on audio, and don't have much video equipment, but I'mdipping my toes in the waters of videoblogging (and video podcasting),so to speak. Here's my first post:http://www.somethingthathappened.com/2005/12/heres-link-to-first-video-whether.htmlIt's not much, but it's a start. In my text post I've provided anexplanation as to why the video is so tiny, but I'm still a bitperplexed as to why Compressor left the image so small. I followedthe steps outlined in a video tutorial I found on a site calledFreevlog (at http://www.freevlog.org/ ) for compressing video usingFinal Cut Pro HD; does anyone know if the video is supposed to turnout this tiny?Thanks for your help,Harold J. JohnsonSomething That Happenedhttp://somethingthathappened.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.ushttp://apperceptions.orghttp://digitaldojo.blogspot.comhttp://spinflow.orghttp://wearethemedia.comhttp://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED]msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]skype: msandyspin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] I think Blogger is down part 2
You are right. I can't get into my own blogger account. The world, as we know it, might be ending :-) ! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Paul Knight To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] I think Blogger is down part 2 Also http://missbhavens.blogspot.com/On 6 Dec 2005, at 01:59, Paul Knight wrote: Hi guysFor all those sitting there biting your nails at my startling and frankly brown trouser making revelation that blogger is down, I have some ear bashingly strenuous news. I can get into text only blogs, but none featuring video. I can also get into my dashboard but then wait forever until my browser tells me that there is a connection error. Is it just me Daniel and Daniel or what? Does anyone know? Does anyone give a crap? I think this is serious, I have never experienced this before and frankly I am quite worried. here are a list of other folks' blogger vlogs, that I can't get intohttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/http://pjkproductions.blogspot.comhttp://stonefarm.blogspot.com/http://joshspicks.blogspot.com/http://mostextraordinary.blogspot.comhttp://vlogcats.blogspot.com/http://synchronicity777.blogspot.com/http://docmaker.blogspot.com/http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com/And they're just off my listPaulDo yourself a favour and Visit my Vloghttp://pjkproductions.blogspot.comIt's worth a laugh and work friendly.Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vloghttp://pjkproductions.blogspot.comIt's worth a laugh and work friendly. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Publicity and Spreading the Word
Great question! I've printed up little fliers promoting both vlogging and my own site. I print these on Day-Glo pink paper and leave them at art gallery openings, community centers, etc. I've thought of just standing out and giving them out for a couple hours to see what impact they have on hits to my vlogs. This is the tiny leaflet (twelve to an 8 1/2 by 11 inch page--very cheap really): JOIN THE NEW MEDIA REVOLUTION Now, you can post your videos on the Internet and become part of our societal archival history. It is free! All you need is any kind of video camera, a computer and access to the internet. Find free videoblogging tutorials at: http://www.FreeVlog.org Twelve hundred vloggers share information at: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com You can add vlogs to your blogs like I did: http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess in a few weeks, this is a dated "promotional" item since we now number 1,600 going toward 2,000! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: wtrainbow To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Publicity and Spreading the Word I am curious to know if anyone is doing anything innovative to promote your videoblog or vodcast. Apart from listing in the various directories and link swapping, I'm wondering what other techniques people are using to promote their work.It seems to me, from the short time I've been doing this, that most of the audience for most videoblogs is other videobloggers and friends. I think this is great. The support and feedback within the community is valuable and it great to see all the creative _expression_, but I'm also interested in discovering ways to expand the audience to people who may not have an interest in producing but would still enjoy the content.Also are there metrics out there on how many subscribers a site has? I'm thinking of Technorati's Top 100 which lists the number of links to a Web site to determine it's popularity ranking. Is there anything analogous for videoblogs? Is feedburner the only place to track subscribers apart from a custom solution?Willhttp://www.tiny-tube.comnew upisode just went up! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] That perfect moment...
Yes, I have had that experience. I had it twice, two times in a row. The amazing thing was one of those vlogs got 11 views while the other racked up 200 views in a couple days. Now, that means that two "magical" vlogs got wildly different receptions. That is really somewhat of a bummer. I would have said that the more popular one might have been "twice" as popular. I never expected it to be twenty times as popular. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Tim D To: Videoblogging Group Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: [videoblogging] That perfect moment... I want to turn the page for a minute. Move away from the technicalaspects of software and cameras and celebrity. Talk about theorganics of vlogging. Stick with me. Listen while I flow. Have youexperienced that moment? You know the one I mean...when you'vefinished editing a video, and it's perfect. You can just feel thatit's exactly the way it needs to be. You don't want to touch one moremillisecond of footage. Maybe you're editing film of an event thatmeant a great deal to you. Maybe you're making it for someone else sothat they can experience what you did. Or maybe you're justdocumenting a memory that you can watch whenever you need a laugh...ora cry. A smile curves your lips. You find yourself watching it overand over again. The sound track is right, the cuts are right. Everything is right. Everything comes together, like vlog Nirvana. How does it feel for you? Is it Physical? Emotional? Both? Haveyou experienced it?I have. It rocks.Tim--realitysandwich.typepad.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] I'm teaching at the Apple store!
Yeah, I haven't even mastered my new Mac yet but I'm very happy to have made the jump from the "old technology" to the new. In fact, the negative reviews of the X Box have made me consider selling my shares of Microsoft and buying into Apple. Obviously, Microsoft is "the past" and Apple is "the future". Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Paul Knight To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] I'm teaching at the Apple store! Hi Susan,Isn't it about time you bought an apple? If only just for final cut pro? Anyway knock 'em dead in dallas, go girl.PaulOn 6 Dec 2005, at 02:32, Verdi wrote: Hmmm,I see a new Mac in your future.:)VerdiOn Dec 5, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Susan wrote: Holy crap, I'm on their website now!! http://www.apple.com/retail/willowbend/week/20051204.html My class is this Saturday, from 3-4pm, with time for questions afterwards. If you have any friends in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, SEND THEM! :) Also, before I've even made my first presentation, the lead instructor at the store has asked me to make this a monthly gig--he wants me to pick a January date!! So I think I'm going to tell him Jan. 14th, and maybe even Feb. 11th. This ROCKS! I am so excited! Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups LinksSPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ? Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vloghttp://pjkproductions.blogspot.comIt's worth a laugh and work friendly. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
have responded with their videos which made us happy.It is our aim to present edgy pop culture and bands who simply willNEVER get seen on MTV. But we do not have any more access to the bigguns than anyone else!As for this most recent episode, that was a STRANGE one. ahem. Thechap whose video it was we met when we were all 'moonlighting' (as wemusicians do)and he told us about his video...and blah blahblah...next thing you know, he's over here with his guitar and I'minterviewing him on our couch. He recorded the song in our studio withjust two mics and that's the 'acoustic minute' part. I WISH we were slick promotion vehicles for music producers but alas,our friends who ARE connected in the business have not taken thisvlog/vodcast/videoblogging serious yet. Hopefully they will. Ofcourse, we suffer from not wanting to please anyone else's agenda!Integrity is a sin in the music business, and we have it inspades. In fact, we are probably the furthest thing in the world frombeing a slick production vehicle for the music businessTo answer your questions...re: the 3 versions of the videos.The Quicktime, Bam does when he compresses the initial one. TheWindows version I do on my PC with some software I got for $30(Riverpast) because our band fans wrote to me and said they couldn'tview the Quicktime. In an effort to have as many viewers as possible,we decided it was the smart thing to do. (just like building websiteswhich i also do...i make sure they work in IE, Firefox, Safari,Netscape and boy what a nightmare!) Then, lastly, Bam takes theQuicktime mov and uses a different compressor that comes with QT Proand converts it for iPod users. Whew!Our goal? Good question! We are having a B-L-A-S-T making mini tvshows. It just feels alot like songwriting or painting a picture. Wealmost always love the most recent episode and then can't wait to makethe next one! Since we have complete freedom, we are playing it by earand seeing what the next day brings. We have some great bands comingin to our studio in this month and they've already agreed to go oncamera with their stories. And Hollywood is just full of real stories.Not the kind you hear on "E" or whatever. ...as for production values and moneyif you saw what weused,...you would laugh. Seriously.Bam is a genius atmaking it look good. The best thing we have is our intent. :-)We do not have the latest, greatest of anything! If we did, we woulddo this every single day instead of sleeping 4 hours a night to fit itin around dayjobs etc. Oh...the creative commons license to the videothat's a goodquestion and I'll ask Dean and all the other bands about that. I'msure most would say yes to anyone that wanted to play them. In episode8, we wanted to share Dean's unusual story rather than play the videobut I'll double check because that is a very valid question and Iwouldn't want to assume anything having been a musician who has beenripped off more times than a rattle snake sheds skins.Finally, let me close by saying thank you that you think our showlooks so professional. We truly have an amazing time giggling our waythrough creating each and every second of every episode. I guess insome ways vlogging feels like the culmination of many aspects of ourpassions, art, music, film, lifestyle, pop culture, exposing corporatebastards.. .there is a pulse that beats in the music we love andwe hope to capture it as much as possible! If you have ANY questions at all, feel free to email me off list:[EMAIL PROTECTED]And I will answer anything at length or we can just chat about thisbizarre obsession with videoblogging!ps. sorry it took me so long to answer you..I was at my dayjobtoday. Cheers and vlog on...Share Rosswww.rocknrolltv.netmy band, Bubble: www.planetbubble.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just watched "Episode #8 - Windows Version" on my Mac (bymistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They haveprofessional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some ofthe rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are theyslick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and moneyinto producing them. However, they have a "creative commons license" And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singerperforming while several scantily-clad sexy young women kick amiddle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that "creative commons"license give any real rights to the snippets o
[videoblogging] Surreal possibilities of vlogging
There are times you feel you'resurrounded bymediocre flotsam in the Sea of Vlog. Then, you find something like this which many might miss because of its bland title: http://blip.tv/file/5831 This isn't an "important" vlog, just a very extraordinary one! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Prangstgrup
Great tip! It really was well done. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Enric To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Prangstgrup --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Only 9 people have bookmarked this on delicious. Hope everyone isaware of it http://www.prangstgrup.com ("Lecture Musical" is wonderful) -- Bev Blog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/ Journal: http://funnytheworld.comYou're totally right! Funny! Enric SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NPPF
Josh Leo writes: "Maybe I just want to be part of something "official" maybe it is my own selfish desire for elitism. Maybe it is a stupid idea that is useless to who and what we are as a group of people" I'll venture that this is the reaction of a "big fish in a little pond" realizing that the "big pond" doesn't respect or recognize him. I say that not as a criticism but as an observation. We all live in our own little worlds. The vlogosphere is a tiny world at this moment. Josh Leo has achieved something like celebrity status (rightly) by producing an amazing body of work that has made him one of the most consistently watched vloggers on the Internet. Hubris is a fatal flaw. When the local homecoming queen enters the Miss America pageant, he/she suddenly realizes that the entire world is not at his/her feet. The "star" from Small-town, USA, suddenly realizes she/he faces real competition from hundreds/thousands of other "big-fish-in-small-ponds". We are all "big fish" in a tiny pond. In the future, we will have to prove our mettle. We will have to demonstrate that we are as good as (or better than) recognized "authorities". One of the first tests is to recognize one's true status. ALL vloggers are outsiders, people (as Dick Cavett said to me) with "silly little cameras". Well, cameras cease to be silly when they produce material superior to that of the professionals. Josh Leo, and indirectly all-of-us, receive a "reality sandwich" from this kind of treatment by the recognized media. The right reaction is not to attack "them". Nor, do we want to join "them". The right way to proceed is to continue producing better material than "them". At some point, it will become obvious that some vloggers do a better job of covering issues than traditional media outlets do. You have to toil in the trenches to slowly gain the skills that enable you to climb the mountain and conquer it. The race is on! Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Josh Leo To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NPPF I guess my reaction to the experience today dealt with all these people wearing name tags that said things like "CNN NY" "WZZM" "WOOD" etcMy name tag said Calvin College. I talked to people and they knew I was a student so they treated like I was a little putz, who was wide eyed and amazed with their profession (like the other 4 students there" I wasn't there to kiss these people's boots to get a job. I have a job as a form of journalist (radio programs) and I am part of the media revolution that one of the CNN guys said was the future of what they are doing. His words were "yeah someday it is going to all be one guy with a laptop in his backpack, a small DV-cam making the whole story and beaming it to the networks, news is goign to be way mroe personalized, people are going to choose what they want" I smiled and thought to myself "haha that is me in a nutshell minus the network" I had no way for them to understand that I was part of something, part of a movement, a movement of philosphers, techies, video professionals, artists, movers, shakers, media makers! I said was a video blogger and they didn't get it... I guess it is just a matter of time before the media and the rest of the world realizes what we are and the power we wield. The reason I threw the idea of an organization was perhaps to work within the traditional structure until the public catches up in understanding. Imagine going to a "news event"and being asked "what are your credentials? who are you with?" and then you just say "I am part of the NAVB" But as others have pointed out, there is so much drama, complications, and pain in the ass stuff that may not serve the community for it to be worth it. Maybe I just want to be part of something "official" maybe it is my own selfish desire for elitism. Maybe it is a stupid idea that is useless to who and what we are as a group of people... Either way, I feel the power of vlogging, I wish they did too. On 12/3/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Take it easy on the other in-group. They work hard - together - and there's a huge bond between them for their shared experience of it. Just as our vlog-bond is strong for our shared experiences. As in the vlogosphere (or any sphere of consequence), you have to earn a bit of respect before people will greet you with the open welcome we've come to enjoy here. There's no doubt but that we can and will as a group earn that respect with other mediamakers. Just a matter of time and
[videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
I just watched "Episode #8 - Windows Version" on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a "creative commons license" And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy youngwomen kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that "creative commons" license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
" On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter. I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately or accidentally) mis-categorize something." I suspect we are going to soon have questions of "legal responsibility" arising with those who host free posting sites. Are they responsible for libelous, obscene or criminal material published on thier site? Would stated guidelines (i.e"Those using our services are expected to obey and respect all laws.") be a defense? Or would they be responsible for removing something only after a complaint was filed and it was brought to their attention? I think "leaving categorizing to the submitter" would work if guidelines said "works considered to be adult in nature" should be so labeled. Works containing overt sexuality and/or nudity should also be labeled, etc. I've seen sites where you have to declare you are over eighteen years of age to enter and view. Wouldn't such techniques work with saucy vlogs? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Wong Teck Jung To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia?? we should have an authority to rate a vlog. just like netibaOn 12/2/05, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/2/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it would work leaving the categorizing to the submitter. I can imagine plenty of reasons why someone might (deliberately or accidentally) mis-categorize something. Yes, of course, but... I don't think that any of the sites which purport to review everything before allowing it to be posted have set themselves a reasonable task. As video on the Internet explodes exponentially, no single group or company (except maybe Google) can afford the human resources to review that much footage. I'm assuming that the rest of your post advocates "reactive" tagging, where something would be reviewed only if flagged as nasty by someone. Which does seem the only sensible approach, as long as you don't get mischief-makers randomly tagging everything as rotten just to keep you busy. best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --http://duller.blogspot.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] amazing multilingual overlays on the soundtracks!!
It is interesting. I guess our ears listen to the language we understand while buffering out the language we don't. Actually, this is better than not being to understand what someone is saying. Nevertheless, the other language bouncing around in the background is somewhat annoying. What I wonder about is whether watching a lot of video like this would slowly enable you to learn the other language? That would be worth studying. A lot of Spanish-speaking immigrants used to learn English by watching movies with spokenEnglish and Spanish subtitles. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: chrlshogan To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: [videoblogging] amazing multilingual overlays on the soundtracks!! hey guys,I wasn't reviewing some of my users work at our media, and spotted a new use for soundtracks. The technique was developed by language teacher in Oklahoma. He just posted one of these video blogs in our media the other day. I think this would be a boon to international business and may possibly become a standard for international video blogging. Check it out.http://www.ourmedia.org/node/109177The way he does, this is amazing. It's like being able to hear and understand both languages at the same time. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive
"if i do a video blog in my car and the radio has a song on is that a copy rite isue??" Actually, you violate copyright when you have a song playing on the radio in your car while doing a vlog. You violate copyright when you film in a bar and an annoying bothersome boombox is playing in the background. You won't have any problems just vlogging such stuff. However, if you wanted to turn your vlogs into some sort of theatrical release, you would have all sorts of copyright conflicts. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Randy Mann To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 6:41 AM Subject: RE: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive if that is the case, then what happens when sony gets mad at me for smashing one of there tvs and calling it crap. would that be a trade mark issue?? if im wearing a nike shirt does that make my video a tm issue?? if i do a video blog in my car and the radio has a song on is that a copy rite isue??i think it should be like this she bought the doll. its hers.i liked the videorandyaverrycoollifeblog.blogspot.comFrom: "Bill Streeter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archiveDate: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:38:34 -I don't think the issue with Barbie is copyright. I think it's a trademark issue. And trademarks a quite a bit different than copyrightunder the law. Under copyright (which is registered with the Libraryof Congress, in the US--although it needn't be to be legal) you own itno matter what unless you overtly give it up.Trademarks are different. Trademarks need to be protected to remainyour property. So if someone starts to use your Trademark and youdon't do due diligence to stop it, then the Trademark can cease to beyour trademark and become a generic mark that anyone can use. Thusexplains why companies so jealously guard against infringement oftheir trademark. Because under law if they don't they can loose them.So no doubt this was an issue of not just copyright but also oftrademark.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I concede the point. I didn't know that infringement of Barbie'scopyright would be the real issue. But, even on that level, I wonderif an argument couldn't be made for setting up some site in China orsomewhere that was really free of "copyright" constraints. I understand people deserve to be paid for their work and what theyown, etc. However, in this case, there was no financial gain beingmade. Barbie was being used to make a political statement (againstmen in my opinion) and therefore should be a legitimate target forparody like any celebrity. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280- Original Message - From: Steve Watkins To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: my video got taken off archive Archive.org's aims to capture history do not mean they can afford to pretend their are no laws that may affect the content they can legally host. The internet would be very different today if all the laws in all countries were always followed to the letter. Clearly that doesnt happen, but responsible sites that dont want to lose all their money in court have to do some sort of risk assessment. In a case where theres already been legal action against a very similar type of video, I think its easy to see why they may of decided it wasnt worth it. A possible justification could go along the lines of 'would you rather us ditch a small part of history or have us lose the entire archive due to the cost of fighting lawsuits'? Of course all this is just speculation, I have no idea why that video actually was removed or the though processes behind the decision. Steve of Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the "Internet Archive" that claims to be capturing "the history of our day?" Aren't sexual issues part of that history? It is really outrageous that they took your vlog off. And, I say that, as someone who doesn't fully agree with your viewpoint. Actually, I watched this vlog and I felt it treated men unfairly. It made me mad. That is good. Something that provokes you and c
Re: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia?
Gosh, Jay, can't you read!! :) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: Videobloggers Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: [videoblogging] chinese ourmedia? someone said this site:http://www.toodou.com/index.htmlwas a user-generated video site.anyone know chinese?fact checking.jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia??
This discussion about labeling reminds me of C-Span's coverage of a report on video games. They have a system with terms to describe games not for those under eighteen, excessive violence, etc. But, they find that most retailers (Best Buy being the lone exception) sell these games rated for adults to eight year old "undercover shoppers". They also found that parents really didn't know what some of the "labels" meant. Indeed, just like all these fine lines between "adult" and XXX and "kidsafe" and "not good for work" and "GP" etc. They found that the categories filmmakers used were the most familiar to the general public and actually suggested the film rating system be applied to video games. Even with films, you have all these nuances. I love the warnings on Sundance that say "brief nudity". Would that cover Janet Jackson's tit or would you have to see some full frontal nude? I even think they have a label "some violence". Does that mean only one person gets decapitated? All of these terms are so subjective. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: petertheman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Porn on mefeedia?? I wouldn't go with G, PG, X type ratings... As mentioned, 'adult' doesn't always mean X, etc. Perhaps following the iTunes model of marking things as 'mature' or 'explicit' or whatever might work. For people not logged in, I would filter out all 'mature' content. For people who are logged in, provide a checkbox for whether they want 'mature' content displayed to them or not. Don't the various search engines do something similar with the results they display?Good ideas. I am taking the "light" approach here: take it easy on thefixes. Step by step. In a month or two, I am sure we'll add some morefeatures. There's a distinction between 'porn' and 'kid-safe' yes. The kidsafe tag is a good example:http://mefeedia.com/tags/kidsafe know that I'm sometimes not even sure if I should want videos inFireANT when my kids are in the room.Yep. It's a complex issue. I just want to make sure we providesolutions that scale and that work, but don't censor. There is enoughcensorship out there.Peter YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Jay says and Andreas responded: anyone with a brian knows that insanefilms.com is not a porn vloghe just happened to film a gang bang audition once for a school project. (look in the archive. its pretty amazing) They have... auditions...? This is an interesting point. Say what you want about Insane Films as a whole, this one vlog was just pure porn. In fact, they have tried to hide it and it might be blocked or not available on their site. I found it through searching the Internet or through an aggregator. This fellow might have been doing a documentary on auditions for a gang bang movie but the way he covered the activity (camera angles, etc) were in the best porn tradition. I know that a couple institutional names were listed on the credits. I'm sure they would be mortified if confronted publicly by some crusading anti-porn group. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, Activist Advisor: The Immortality Institute Hoboken, NJ http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/ 201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:25:09 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or traditional companies will start making feeds with bascially advertisements. youll have literally hundreds of feeds because every business must have a voice. Not all company (video)blogs are evil. How will i know to find Human Dog if its surrounding by commercials and crap? You can always try humandog.com without the dash (kids: it's not safe for work). anyone with a brian knows that insanefilms.com is not a porn vloghe just happened to film a gang bang audition once for a school project. (look in the archive. its pretty amazing) They have... auditions...? - Andreas -- URL:http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/9QUssC/lzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like Rock n Roll TV?
I don't recognize the name "share". What comes to mind is whether there is a directory to the names and email addresses of members of this group listed somewhere? I know you can get the email address by clicking the name and "properties" on a posting but is there a directory or listing somewhere? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Markus Sandy To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] What are vlog shows like "Rock n Roll TV"? Share is a member of this group. Why don't you ask her directly?Randolfe Wicker wrote: I just watched "Episode #8 - Windows Version" on my Mac (by mistake). These shows have both windows and iPod versions. They have professional looking graphics. They seem to have access to some of the rock stars. Are these productions of entertainment want-to-be's ? Or are they slick promotional vehicles for big time music producers? Obviously, they have invested time, professional skills and money into producing them. However, they have a "creative commons license" And, regarding this last episode, which features a rock singer performing while several scantily-clad sexy youngwomen kick a middle-aged slob restrained on the floor, does that "creative commons" license give any real rights to the snippets of the banned music video? Another show that also looks like it might be a slick promotion for an existing cable channel is Tech TV. Could anyone fill me in on this? Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
All commercial blogs/vlogs are not evil. What amuses me is when a viewer watches a commercial vlog and doesn't even realize it. There was a "Wild Girls of Thailand" vlog a few days ago with some topless nudity, etc. and which ended with a still that said: "Get the DVD @ ". Actually, it was one of the "most watched" videos of the day. This fact seemed to be missed by a couple people posting comments who only said things like the vlog was "exploitative", etc. If vlogs like that one "paid off", we might find ourselves swamped with vlogs that were nothing more than trailers/commercials for soft porn. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Jay dedman To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. Not all company (video)blogs are evil.im not making a judgement on the products...i just dont want my timehijacked by watching commercials.jay--Adventures in VideobloggingURL: http://www.momentshowing.nethttp://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowinghttp://getFireAnt.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog
I scrolled through the Yahoo Vlog search results. How do they find that content? A lot of well known vloggers weren't represented at all. There was a vlogger named "dooser" who seemed to have one to three vlogs on nearly every page. I noticed a lot of the files were very small. I wonder if you know how these search engines work? I didn't see a lot of your work their either. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Steve Garfield To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: [videoblogging] Yahoo! Video Search for vlog Happy Friday everyone,Just saw a link in my referrer log from Yahoo!It lead me to the Yahoo! Video Search results page for a search for 'vlog'http://tinyurl.com/d56m7orhttp://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?_adv_prop=videoamp;x=opei=UTF-8va=vlogfmt=mpegfmt=qt;sz=alldur=allvst=0vm=pThe interesting thing is that the Yahoo! results page allows you to play my video directly AND it uses frames to display the original source page.Just wanted to mention it in case you haven't seen how this works.--Steve-- Home Page - http://stevegarfield.comVideo Blog - http://stevegarfield.blogs.comText Blog - http://offonatangent.blogspot.comLike Paul Revere, leading the citizen's media revolution. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on.
Something that is never mentioned in all this talk about "kids and adult content" is that if they are "too young", they won't find it interesting. If they find it interesting, they are probably old enough to be viewing it. That was what was really wacky about that JPEG with two kids barely old enough to walk and talk supposedly saying what their email (porno) content was. They weren't old enough to go on a computer. If they were on a computer, they wouldn't know what the words meant. Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Michael Ridley To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Porn Shmorn. Grow up! There's real life going on. Perhaps. I'd argue that that decision is up to their parents. I firstgot online in 1992 or so, and I guess I would have been about 12 or 13at the time. My parents didn't choose to be involved in what I was orwas not looking at, content-wise. Granted you could say that in 1992there wasn't much general awareness of the "dangers" of being online,but my dad was savvy enough to know what was up..he just didn't feelthe need to make an issue of it, because he felt I had the commonsense to make appropriate choices.But who knows, for some other parents, sure maybe they want to filterthat out. But the point is, the onus is on the consumer (parent) noton the content provider. As the saying goes, if you don't like it,don't watch it.-mOn 12/2/05, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK well now this is my pet peeve. I want everyone to shut the fuck up about kids. It is not the mission of the world to protect all children from anything that might be dangerous at any time in any place. Now the whole subject of what is or isn't appropriate for kids to see is a huge can of worms that I am going to complete ignore because it's beside the point. The point is - it is not my responsibility to filter my site (or my life in general) in the event that some child might happen upon it. There's this concept called parental responsibility. It's a doctrine which puts forth the concept that if you are going to have children, then that's an active exercise which requires full participation for approximately 16 to 18 years. If you are so concerned about what material of an objectionable nature your kids may see, then set limits and don't let them see those things. Sort of like how you might not let them wander around the red light district of Amsterdam on their own at 4 AM. Same concept. The correct solution here is for parents to step up and make rules and set limits, not to have some arbitrarily large net of responsibility that ensares and inhibits the rights of all adults everywhere. I will not be subjugated by the delicate and impressionable nature of 4 year olds. That's a non-starter for me. -m So people under the age of eighteen should be kept by adults from sites like mefeedia? -- Enric On 12/2/05, Bill Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes it is part of life... but much of this discussion is related to kids encountering this stuff. I like to use this illustration in that regard. http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/kiddyspam.jpg People find it irresponsible to create a picture like this, but then support "who the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] cares if we see a dick" type of attitude. Ironic. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rishey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ask yourself why it is that you think people shouldn't see porn? Some of you makemention of 'self policing' the community? Do you realize what that sentence means? Don'twe have enough policing? What is going to happen if you accidentally see a penis or a vagina? NOTHING. THese aredistractions. THis is life. ANd to be wrapped up in the issue of what is decent and what isnot is to be part of the problem. Hello- In a few decades the land your standing on could be underwater. Our world is at war based on complete deception and implemented by torture. Who the fuck cares if yousee a goddamned dick? There are plenty of Owellian directories such as itunes which willremove such material. Itunes recently removed my insanefilms.com from their directorywith no explanation. No censorship. If you are afraid to see penises, then subscribe to Rocketboom and watchnothing else. If you're talking about SPAM, however, that is another matter
Re: [videoblogging] German Mobuzz Ripoff - Ehrensenf
Good for you, Richard, for standing up to the ageist, sexist, totalitarian, youth-worshipping femi-fascists around here! :) It was terrible taste for Josh to pick you out as the generally-agreed-upon-standard of unattractiveness. I would have been offended as well. Then again, better you than me...:) Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality InstituteHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 - Original Message - From: Richard Show To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [videoblogging] German Mobuzz Ripoff - Ehrensenf My buddy Bill Streeter pointed out that my name was evoked in the middle of this thread, therefore, I would like to offer a few observations/comments 1) Would Rocketboom do as well with an equally beautiful woman who was not as clever, smart, and funny as Amanda - I seriously doubt it2) Would Rocketboom do as well, if Andrew did not produce/direct/film etc - I seriously doubt it3) I've been considering new slogans for my vlog and I can't decide between "overweight (yet equally witty, and funny) bearded man..." or "ignorant, uncool, ugly male" (both have their charm)4) I can't help but feel there is an underlying very-subtle current in this discussion that implies that my appearance and age are somehow in contrast to Amanda's youth and attractiveness. However, I will have you know that my wife thinks I am quite hot, and often refers to me at "eye candy". I think you can see why she would think of that based on some those rare videos when I offer a glimpse of my desirable bodhttp://www.richardshow.com/2005/07/tao-of-vloggingwatch-video-yesterday.htmlhttp://www.richardshow.com/2005/08/mountain-streamwatch-video-maureen-and.html5) Also, had you been studying my videos in detail, which, of course, I would recommend, you would find that the "richardboom" did make an appearance on a Harry Potter video, though my beautiful wife (who thinks I'm hot) played Amanda's rolehttp://www.richardshow.com/2005/07/richard-and-half-blood-prince-party.html... Richard, overweight, yet equally funny ... On 11/29/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I have a funny feeling that the numbers on these shows (viewership) would drastically drop if the pretty women were replaced with an overweight (yet equally witty, and funny) bearded man...Rocketboom... now hosted by Richard Hall of the Richardshow.com-JoshOn 11/29/05, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I have a funny feeling that the numbers on these shows (viewership) would drastically drop if the pretty women were replaced with an overweight (yet equally witty, and funny) bearded man... On 11/29/05, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It cerainly doesn't hurt though. -JoshOn 11/29/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering somewhere around half of all of the human beings on the planet are female and probably half or more of those are young and pretty, I don't find this to be enough of an argument for why someone would go there. On Nov 29, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Christopher Ivanyi wrote: In watching this show myself, and not understanding a word of it, I find myself asking why do I keep watching it?It must be to a large degree that the host seems hip and smart, but even moreso, she's young, pretty, and female -- an undeniable element to its attraction, in my opinion. I've been watching the German show (even though I dont understand it), and I like it. Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group " videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Typepad Use YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.