[Wikimediaindia-l] Online encyclopedia in Kannada
If the tentative plan fructifies, *there will be an online encyclopedia in Kannada*, similar to Wikipedia in English, an online encyclopedia, expected to launch on November 1 by the CM BS Yeddyurappa. From the below link. http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=KDA%E2%80%99S+big+plans+for+rajyotsavaartid=O1pQmSPtupQ=SectionID=Qz/kHVp9tEs=MainSectionID=wIcBMLGbUJI=SectionName=UOaHCPTTmuP3XGzZRCAUTQ==SEO= Any idea about the license that is going to be used in this online encyclopedia? Is Government is planning for a Wiki? Is Government is aware about the existence of a Kannada Wikipedia? Kannada Wikipedians, any idea about this news? Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Official Spokespersons for each Indian Language Wiki community
Yes. As Jyothis suggested, we can create a sub page for the wikimedia India paghttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Indiae in Meta Wiki for coordinating this effort. Let the respective language community decide how and who should represent them outside wiki. Shiju On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jyothis Edathoot j...@jyothis.net wrote: I think a sub page of metawiki page for the wikimedia India could be a better page to discuss multi-wiki things than having it in many places. Individual wikis may hold the vote for their spokes person/rep and report it back in Meta pages. Regards, Jyothis. http://www.Jyothis.net http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis woods are lovely dark and deep, but i have promises to keep and miles to go before i sleep and lines to go before I press sleep completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: And the press is sensationalist enough to accept any crap... I mean, they've interviewed us, spoken to us, covered our meetups so many times, why THE HELL can't they understand we're all EQUAL?? And if there really was any head, why the hell don't we do chamchagiri with him? I guess this can be discussed at the Malayalam Wikipedia and at Bangalore on 14th before we hold a vote online eh? On 22 February 2010 10:20, YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.com wrote: And this conman who should be avoided, his name is .. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Ravi for bringing up this topic. I sent a similar mail regarding this some time back. Now a days many so called wikipedians are popping up here and there claiming themselves as the spokesperson of different Indian language wikis. The irony is that none of the Wiki language communities are aware about these types of developments. And some of these spokespersons doesn't even have an account in the respective language wiki. I know that Wiki editing and Wiki advocacy are two different topics. But we, contributors to different language wikipedias, doesn't want some one outside the Language community taking the responsibility of spokesperson with out our knowledge. It is a good idea to appoint a team of active wikians for each language as the official Spokespersons/contact persons. Let each Wiki language community decide how it should be represented outside. Shiju On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Ravi shankar ravidreams...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Recently we came to know that a fraud guy has been claiming himself to be the head of Tamil Wiki and a director for yet-to-be-formed Indian Wikimedia chapter. He has been doing this at many places including Govt circles. This was a shock for us. I would like to warn a similar possibility for all other Indian Wikis. I recommend that each Wiki start a mechanism to officially elect few official Spokespersons / contact persons and spread the word about this selection. The appointment can be cycled every few months to share responsibility with more members. These need not be just the sysops / bureaucrats. They can be anyone trust worthy, long serving the community, having fair idea of Wiki organization and easy to cooperate and communicate with. Ravi. http://ravidreams.com/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Your friend in time, Cherian/Srikanth/R/ Wikipedia on YOUR MIND? Join us on Twitter ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Progress
Srikanth, For Mobile Wiki, you need to translate messages listed on this page: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslatetask=viewgroup=out-wikimediamobilelanguage=hilimit=250 But I found that User Vsrawat http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Vsrawatfrom Hindi Wikipedia has already started translating it. It is better to consult the veteran Marathi/Hindi wikipedians Mahitgarhttp://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Mahitgar /Kaustub http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Kaustubh before translating messgaes to Hindi. They are translating the system messages (to Hindi/Marathi) through translate wiki for more than 2 years now. Always consult the local language wiki community regarding localization of system messages. Shiju On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Tell me exactly, how I go about translating messages on TranslateWiki, I have translator rights, but just don't know how to use it. On 28 February 2010 22:13, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, I completely agree. When the localisation for a language is done, it needs a bit of work and coordination to enable the software for other MediaWiki installations like Wiktionary as well. There are in my opinion two things you can do, you can write to the foundation or wikitech mailing list and you can write to the same mailing lists asking for advice on the mobile mainpage you created for your Wiktionary.. I am sure the last option will be more impressive and get you more results :) PS I know there are more languages spoken and written in India .. there are only 25 messages to localise ! Thanks, GerardM On 28 February 2010 17:34, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Gerard, It will be good if this facility can be enabled for Wiktionary also. Mobile version of Wiktionary will be more beneficial to the users than Wikipedia. I know that developers are trying for it. Prioritizing this bug/task will make the mobile version of wikis much popular. Shiju On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, That was the wrong url .. http://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portaal:Hoofdpagina_%28mobiel%29 Thanks, Gerard -- Forwarded message -- From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Date: 28 February 2010 17:14 Subject: Progress To: Wikimedia India wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Hoi, After the completion of the Urdu, Malayalam and Bengali mobile interface for Wikipedia, the Telugu localisation has now also been completed as well :) On the Dutch Wikipedia we are experimenting with a special mobile main page .. When people arrive on their mobile it may look good .. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portaal:Hoofdpagina_(mobiel)http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portaal:Hoofdpagina_%28mobiel%29There is still too much on it; we need to consider the speed and the cost of mobile traffic as well. Thanks, GerardM ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Your friend in time, Cherian/Srikanth/R/ Wikipedia on YOUR MIND? Join us on Twitter ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiMeetup - Bangalore -12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore12 I suggest to reschedule this wiki meetup to* March 21*. The reason is, a long weekend is coming during the March second week since Ugadihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugadiis falling on March 16 (Tuesday). Many Wikians might travel to their home town during that time. Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Steward election 2010
Hi All, As all of you are aware, the steward elections ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2010) got over on Februray. Many of you might have cast your votes during this elections. The results are declared today. I am extremely happy to inform all that, one of our colleague *Jyothis*http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis(He is an active Malayalam Wikipedian), has been elected as a steward ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2010). He has received the *second maximum percentage of votes* among all the candidates who contested for the steward post. *I assume that he is first Indian language wikipedian elected to that post/usergroup. * For those who are not aware what is a steward is, the below definition from MetaWiki will help. Stewards are users with complete access to the wiki interface on all Wikimedia wikis, including the ability to change any and all user rights and groups. They are tasked with technical implementation of community consensus, and dealing with emergencies (for example, cross-wiki vandalism). Stewards aim to make no decisions as stewards, but are empowered to act as a member of any permissions group on any project with no active member of that permissions group. For example: wikis without administrators may call upon stewards to fulfill that role; stewards will act as a bureaucrat as needed on wikis without bureaucrats. As mentioned in his profilehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/elections_2010/votes/Jyothis, he can speak 5 languages (Malayalam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam(his mother tongue), Tamil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language, Kannadahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kannada_language, Hindi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi, and English) and read and write 3 languages (Malayalam, English, and Hindi). As an Indian language wikian, he will be able to understand the technical problems that we face in Indic langauge wikis. He can surely support most of the Indian language Wikis. I am extremely happy about the percentage of votes Jyothis recived, since rest of the wikians started noticing contributions from non-latin language wikis. I wish him all the success. Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
I request all the current committee members to *at least create a user page*in MetaWiki ( http://meta.wikimedia.org). If you could mention your home wiki and your contributions to WikiMedia foundation wiki projects (both inside and *outside wiki*) there, that will enlighten many of us. Shiju On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.comwrote: I am very happy and proud to hear that we got a wikimedia indic chapter. But I wonder why all these activities taken so hidden? We are a community (or a community of communities), we've an active mailing list, but I didn't hear anything about such an active effort (may be i missed). Is there any separate communication medium? Or is this a special chapter for wikimedia English projects? I recently learned someone as wikimedia indic chapter director from linkedin (http://in.linkedin.com/in/kiruba). He is also being CEO, Founder, Co-Founder, Director of many other initiatives (Actually I don't have any problem about that). I am thinking about that election process and members. I am sorry but frankly I don't know any of other guys also. If possible introduce them, and their home wiki. I wish, an informed community about any further steps. If someone can clarify my thoughts originated from poor knowledge, I'll be more happy. PraveenP Hari Prasad Nadig wrote: Dear all, As Srikanth has already noticed in an earlier e-mail, the draft Memoranda of Association for the proposed Wikimedia India Chapter has been put up on Meta here:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA Even as the team working on the current draft has spent the better part of a year working on it, I am sure that there would be scope for improvement. Please provide your invaluable comments and suggestions on the relevant talk page:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA. However, given the time we have spent on the document, it is important that we proceed quickly and hence, I suggest that the comments be made on or before this Saturday, the 13th of March 2010. Let us maintain the Wiki-etiquette expected out of us during the discussion. People curious about the earlier and the current efforts at forming the India chapter may find my blog post on it,http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563 a complimenting read. More on Wikimedia India chapter can be seen onhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India. Let us look forward to a great response in discussing and debating the MoA of the proposed Wikimedia India chapter. -- Hari Prasad Nadighttp://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadighttp://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing listwikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- -- [image: Wikipedia Affiliate Button]http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Support_Wikipedia/en ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
They already have their user pages on meta wiki, *don't they? * Yes, I could see red links. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA Shiju On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: I request all the current committee members to *at least create a user page* in MetaWiki (http://meta.wikimedia.org). If you could mention your home wiki and your contributions to WikiMedia foundation wiki projects (both inside and *outside wiki*) there, that will enlighten many of us. They already have their user pages on meta wiki, don't they? If you track closely the edits, you'll get to their user pages. Cheers, -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter
It will be good if all the other committee members introduce themselves to *Indic language* wiki community. Shiju On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:15 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear Praveen, Since I'm one of the people involved, let me introduce myself: I'm an editor at English and Tamil Wikipedias for around 6 years, though recently I'm mainly active in Tamil Wikipedia alone. My username on either wikis is 'Sundar'. I am a bureaucrat in Tamil Wiki and an admin in the English Wiki. My edit contributions are at http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=sundardbname=tawiki_phttp://toolserver.org/%7Einteriot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=sundardbname=tawiki_pand http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=sundardbname=enwiki_phttp://toolserver.org/%7Einteriot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=sundardbname=enwiki_pBesides these, I wrote a bot for exporting over 1 lakh dictionary entries to Tamil Wiktionary and ran it with the help of Ravishankar. I have also participated in several outreach efforts and volunteered with MediaWiki localisation. I presented a paper at Wikimania 2009. ( http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:217 ) As for your other concerns, we'll send out a separate email outlining the process. For now, you can check the post by HPN at http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563 Regards, Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture -- *From:* Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thu, March 11, 2010 3:24:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter I am very happy and proud to hear that we got a wikimedia indic chapter. But I wonder why all these activities taken so hidden? We are a community (or a community of communities), we've an active mailing list, but I didn't hear anything about such an active effort (may be i missed). Is there any separate communication medium? Or is this a special chapter for wikimedia English projects? I recently learned someone as wikimedia indic chapter director from linkedin (http://in.linkedin.com/in/kiruba). He is also being CEO, Founder, Co-Founder, Director of many other initiatives (Actually I don't have any problem about that). I am thinking about that election process and members. I am sorry but frankly I don't know any of other guys also. If possible introduce them, and their home wiki. I wish, an informed community about any further steps. If someone can clarify my thoughts originated from poor knowledge, I'll be more happy. PraveenP Hari Prasad Nadig wrote: Dear all, As Srikanth has already noticed in an earlier e-mail, the draft Memoranda of Association for the proposed Wikimedia India Chapter has been put up on Meta here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India/MoA Even as the team working on the current draft has spent the better part of a year working on it, I am sure that there would be scope for improvement. Please provide your invaluable comments and suggestions on the relevant talk page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_India/MoA. However, given the time we have spent on the document, it is important that we proceed quickly and hence, I suggest that the comments be made on or before this Saturday, the 13th of March 2010. Let us maintain the Wiki-etiquette expected out of us during the discussion. People curious about the earlier and the current efforts at forming the India chapter may find my blog post on it, http://hpnadig.net/blog/2010/03/08/wikimedia-india/563 a complimenting read. More on Wikimedia India chapter can be seen on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India. Let us look forward to a great response in discussing and debating the MoA of the proposed Wikimedia India chapter. -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list wikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- -- [image: Wikipedia Affiliate Button]http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Support_Wikipedia/en ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l Banner_88x31_0009_J.jpg___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indian language Wikipedias - Statistical report - 2010 February
Hello All I have compiled the statistical information of the Indian language Wikipedias for the month of *2010 February*. The report is available at https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B4hBi4hJ-5mnZmMxYzFhNTYtZWU5Yy00ZTAwLTliZDItMWJiZGI5MGUxZGQ2hl=en The data for this report is taken from the statistical analysis of all the WikiMedia wikis prepared and maintained by Erik Zachte (Website: http://infodisiac.com/). The statistics is available at http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/Sitemap.htm. The data for this report is collected on the last day of the month. That is, the statistical data for the month of 2010 January is collected at 2010 January 31 23:59 PM GMT. The information of the following Indian language wikipedias is included in this report. - Assamese (http://as.wikipedia.org) - Bengali (http://bn.wikipedia.org) - Bhojpuri (http://bh.wikipedia.org) - Bishnupriya Manipuri (http://bpy.wikipedia.org) - Burmese (http://my.wikipedia.org) - Gujarathi (http://gu.wikipedia.org) - Hindi (http://hi.wikipedia.org) - Kannada (http://kn.wikipedia.org) - Kashmiri (http://ks.wikipedia.org) - Malayalam (http://ml.wikipedia.org) - Marathi (http://mr.wikipedia.org) - Nepali (http://ne.wikipedia.org) - Nepal Bhasha/Newari (http://new.wikipedia.org) - Odia (Oriya) (http://or.wikipedia.org) - Pali (http://pi.wikipedia.org) - Punjabi (http://pa.wikipedia.org) - Sanskrit (http://sa.wikipedia.org) - Sindhi (http://sd.wikipedia.org) - Sinhala (http://si.wikipedia.org) - Tamil (http://ta.wikipedia.org) - Telugu (http://te.wikipedia.org) - Urdu (http://ur.wikipedia.org) I know that some of the above languages are not spoken in present day India. Even though my focus is on Indian language wikipedias, I have included all the languages from Indian Sub continent. One of the main reason is that all the above languages belong to the same language family (either Aryan or Dravidian). I have divided the report into two different sections. 1. Statistical report of Wikipedias 2. Localization status of Mediawiki software Following are the different topics covered under each section. Wikipedia Statistics *Article statistics* - Number of Articles - Number of Edits - Break up of edits - Edits per article - Average size of an article (bytes) - Database size (in Mega Bytes) - Percentage of articles with size greater than 500 bytes - Percentage of articles with size greater than 2000 bytes (2 kilobytes) *User Statistics* - Number of active wikipedians - Page views per month (All figures in Lakhs/month) - MediaWiki Localization Statistics Media Wiki Localization status (percentage) This month onwards I am dividing the languages into 3 groups based on the number of articles. Following are the groups and the languages that fall under each group. Group 1 (More than 10,000 articles) - Nepal Bhasha/Newari - Hindi - Telugu - Marathi - Bishnupriya Manipuri - Tamil - Bengali - Gujarathi - Urdu - Malayalam Group 2 (More than 1,000 articles) - Kannada - Sanskrit - Nepali - Burmese - Sinhala - Pali - Bhojpuri - Punjabi Group 3 (Less than 1,000 articles) - Odia (Oriya) - Kashmiri - Sindhi - Assamese See the PDF at https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B4hBi4hJ-5mnZmMxYzFhNTYtZWU5Yy00ZTAwLTliZDItMWJiZGI5MGUxZGQ2hl=enfor details. You can make your own analysis and conclusions after going through each topic in the PDF. I may publish my analysis in my blog after some time. Last month's analysis is available here http://shijualex.blogspot.com/2010/02/indian-language-wikipedias-statistics.html The question for this month is : Question for 2010 February: *Which is the first Indian language Wikipedia that has crossed 10,000 articles milestone?* Support your answer with sufficient references. Please reply to this mail so that we will have fruitful discussion regrading this topic. I hope this initiative will improve the interaction between different Indian Language Wikipedias and wikipedians. We (Malayalam Wikipedians - http://ml.wikipedia.org) are maintaining a similar comparison study of the major Indian Language wikipedias for the past two years. This study has helped us to understand the status of Malayalam Wikipedia as compared to other Indian Language Wikipedias. I hope this report will help other Indian language wikipedias also. Let me know in case there are any issues. Regards Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Cricket articles on Marathi Wikipedia, other meaningless inflation of article counts
I think you need to have a look at Hindi and Nepal basha (newari) wikipedias also. Some time back (2 years before) I pointed out this issue in this mailing list itself. ( http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2008-January/92.html ) All the top 5 language wikipedias that I mentioned in this statistical report http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B4hBi4hJ-5mnZmMxYzFhNTYtZWU5Yy00ZTAwLTliZDItMWJiZGI5MGUxZGQ2hl=enare following the same strategy to increase the article count. It is really sad to see that even Hindi wikipedia, which has the maximum user base among all the other Indian languages, is also following this same method to increase the article count. (Hindi wikipedia was having 30,000 artcles on June 2009. But now it has more than 50,000. But the active users in that wiki is still less than that of Tamil or Malayalam wiki. We can easily make out the quality of the articles in a wiki if you look at the parameters *bytes per article* and *articles with size more than 2000 bytes*. The fact that all these thousands (or ten thousands) of one-liners are created by one or two admins (or some bots) of that wikipedia is really alarming. The very purpose of wiki software and collaborative authoring fail there. These type of users are killing their wiki projects and *prevent any potential new users* to start editing in that wiki. Readers will not get any benefit from these type of wikis. They still need to go to English wiki for some good/fruit information about any topic. Shiju On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM, YellowMonkey blnguyen2...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know who to talk to about it specifically, but there is some problem with the cricket articles on the Marathi Wikipedia; perhaps it is indicative of a wider trend Lots of English wikipedia Australian cricketer articles have Marathi interwikis more than any other language. But going to all of them, they consist of three parts *Stub message *Empty infobox *The same five words as following उदाहरणादाखल सचिन तेंडुलकरhttps://mail.google.com/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8_%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B0हा लेख पहा. The wikilink goes to Sachin Tendulkar, judging by the photo I went to the Marathi article on Len Hutton, and clicked on the cat http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%97:%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6_%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%9F_%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B3%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%82 Presumably this is the cat for English cricketers? I randomly clicked on about 15 of them and all of them have the same sentence. The same thing happens on teh Australian, NZ and South African cats by following the interwiki, about 800 articles appear to be completely empty or more useless than a substub. Whoever did this, all they are doing is meaninglessly inflating the article count with articles that are all but empty except for an irrelevant comment about Sachin Tendulkar. They may think it makes Marathi Wikipedia look better on the article count rankings, but it is only likely to make it look like a farce, especially if this is widespread. It may trick a few admins in other Wikipedias into being impressed and generate some fake prestige, but there is also a chance that anyone who might use/contribute might consider the WP to be a joke, or people from other projects who bother to take a look will think that the culture of the Marathi project is to fraudulently inflate themselves with misleading statistics I checked another Indic wp with the random function and saw a very substantial minority consisting of empty section headers cut and pasted around the place, although the depth ranking is very high. The depth can be gamed very easily, but it doesn't do anything useful except for false bragging and probably harm in the long term Can someone who knows Marathi deal with those cricket articles please. Thanks ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones
Hi Gerard, We (Malayalam Wikipedians) have asked about this some time back. Please see a discussion regarding that here http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolbar#Malayalam_transliteration_Script Shiju On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, I blogged about an issue that Bellayet introduced me to. He has to enter in latin script data to trigger the search box on the http://be.m.wikipedia.org .. As I can imagine that this is also an issue for other languages of the Indian subcontinent, I would like you to consider providing us with the Unicode characters that are used for your language in the order you know them by. This should provide you improved support in the advanced toolbar and also (this is my expectation) for the mobile interface. Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/03/more-mobile-wikipedia-news-continued.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones
In fact we are looking for some solution to input Malayalam text in the search box that is available in Malayalam Mobile wiki ( http://ml.m.wikipedia.org/). Currently there is no way to input malayalam text there and navigate to a particular article. Shiju On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.comwrote: Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, There is a difference between a transliteration script and an alternate input method. In an alternate inputmethod you select characters from the screen. In my understanding something like an transliteration script is what Bellayet is using.. Thanks, GerardM PS I cc to Hampton as he is the guy who has to understand this :) Hi, I believe once I sent all Malayalam Characters to Gerard Meijssen for this purpose. ;-) PraveenP ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam Wikimedians meetup - 2010 April 17 - Kalamasseri, Ernakulam
Hello WikiMedians, With great pleasure let me inform you about the *Malayalam Wikimedia users meetup*. Today *(2010 April 17) Malayalam Wikimedians* are coming together for the 3rd wikimeetup at RajaGiri College of Social Sciences, Kalamassery, Ernakulam http://www.rajagiri.edu/. The first malayalam wikimeetup was happened in 2007 Decemver 31, and the second meetup was in 2008 October 31. We are extremely happy to inform you about some of the major things happening as a part of this meetup. 1. *We are releasing a Malayalam Wikipedia CD* that contain 500 articles selected from the 12,000 articles that were available in Malayalam Wikipedia during 2010 March. Please note that we are not releasing an offline version of malayalam wiki articles. It is a customized version of articles very much similar to the English Wikipedia on CD (http://wikipediaondvd.com/). We have provided many other additional facilities/addons that are applicable to Malayalam language on this CD. I will provide you the link to download this CD after we release the CD at 3 PM Indian standard time. With the release of this CD, we have become the first Indian language WikiMdedia foundation Wiki releasing such a CD. Also, I assume that no other non-latin languages tried this due to the number of technical hurdles that need to over come while working with non-latin languages. *We have developed a dedicated application (in GNU/Linux) for creating this CD. *I will share you the details of this software as soon as it is available for community development. I will write a separate mail regarding the efforts that went behind the creation of this CD. 2.* We are setting up a new website for coordinating the various activities of Malayalam Wikimedians.* I will share the link soon. The CD version of Malayalam Wikipedia will be avilable for download from this site later today. 3. *We are releasing a printed book (in Malayalam language) that contain 25 frequently asked questions about Wiki, Wikipedia, and Malayalam Wikipedia. *I think if this docuemnt is translated to English, many other Indian languages can reuse it. Requeting the help of wikimedians to translate it to English and available it to all. I will provide you the link to download this book later today. The production cost of CD and the book is sponsored by i...@schoolhttp://www.itschool.gov.in/and the meetup is sponsored by number of NGO's including SPACE http://www.space-kerala.org/. *We are trying for the live streaming of this event.* The link will be provided as soon as it is available. I will share more details about the meetup later today. Regards Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] blog post
Hello Wikimedians, After we (Malayalam Wikimedia Community http://www.mlwiki.in/) released the Malayalam Wikipedia CD, Version 1.0http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/04/best-of-malayalam-wikipedia.html, many wikimedians have asked me about the efforts and processes that went behind the creation of the first Indian language wikipedia on CD. Here is my reply for that. Since the reply is long and has many hyperlinks I have published it as blogpost. You can read the blog post here. http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/creating-malayalam-wikipedia-cd/ Queries, comments, or clarifications are most welcome. Shiju On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Sundar sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: It definitely deserves attention. Please write to the Signpost editor and add a note at the outreach wiki too. Sundar Sent from my iPod On 18-Apr-2010, at 23:45, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I have blogged about the Malayalam CD project. I like it. I noticed that it did not appear on any of the blog aggregators. This is the kind of project that deserves more attention. Certainly when you blog in English, there is no reason why it should not be read by more of the Wikimedia community. Thanks, GerardM PS my blog is on two aggregators http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/04/best-of-malayalam-wikipedia.html http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/04/best-of-malayalam-wikipedia.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia logo in Sinhala
Hi Cary, Informed this to Sinhala and Gujarathi Wiki community. They will be contacting you shortly. Shiju On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: I had a rough time trying to find a Sinhala font that 1) Worked on my laptop system in Linux. 2) Worked in Inkscape without serious spacing errors. 3) Isn't way too heavy or way too light to represent Wikipedia. I found something called Iskoola Pota which seems to me to have worked. However, not knowing Sinhala, I have no clue whether it does, in fact, look right, or appropriate. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-si.svg If anyone can provide any insight; I would be delighted. PS: I still haven't found an appropriate font for the Gujarati logo. Ideas and/or help are welcome. -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Embassy
One of the important feature that separates Indian WikiMedia community from the WikiMedia communities of other countries is its diversity of languages. There are at least 20 Indian languages in which WikiMedia projects are available Following are those languages. - Assamese (http://as.wikipedia.org) - Bengali (http://bn.wikipedia.org) - Bhojpuri (http://bh.wikipedia.org) - Bishnupriya Manipuri (http://bpy.wikipedia.org) - Gujarathi (http://gu.wikipedia.org) - Hindi (http://hi.wikipedia.org) - Kannada (http://kn.wikipedia.org) - Kashmiri (http://ks.wikipedia.org) - Malayalam (http://ml.wikipedia.org) - Marathi (http://mr.wikipedia.org) - Nepali (http://ne.wikipedia.org) - Nepal Bhasha/Newari (http://new.wikipedia.org) - Odia (Oriya) (http://or.wikipedia.org) - Pali (http://pi.wikipedia.org) - Punjabi (http://pa.wikipedia.org) - Sanskrit (http://sa.wikipedia.org) - Sindhi (http://sd.wikipedia.org) - Tamil (http://ta.wikipedia.org) - Telugu (http://te.wikipedia.org) - Urdu (http://ur.wikipedia.org) (*NOTE:* Urdu, Nepali, Tamil, and some other languages are official languages in more than one country.) All these languages use *non-latin scripts* and all of them belong either to *Aryan or Dravidian language family*. So there are many community related (for example, advocacy) and computing related issues (for example, script rendering, usability) that are common to many of these languages. Hence when it comes to computing and community related issues there are many solutions that can be shared between different language communities. But currently, there is no communication happening between different Indian language wiki communities. Because of this, many wiki communities are unaware about the wiki activities that is happening outside their wiki. Big Indian Language Wikipedias like Tamil, Bengali, Tamil and so on have overcome many of the issues since they have large user base. But that is not the case with small Wikipedias like Odiya, Assamese, or some other smaller wikipedias. The *number of active users* of these wikipedias is very less (In some case it is null). Even though it is the duty of the respective language community to build its wiki community, it may not happen overnight due to number of reasons. Hence big Indian language wiki communities can help them to develop a community. For these, we need to have frequent interactions between different wiki communities. But we don't have a common forum in each wiki that can be used for these type of discussions. Hence I request all Indian language Wikipedias to start an *Embassy page* in their respective Wiki. This Embassy page can be used for the inter Wiki related discussions. Tamil and Malayalam Wikipedia have started Embassy long back and we have some healthy discussions happening among us both inside and outside wiki. - Tamil Wikipedia Embassy here: http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%82%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%28Tamil_Embassy%29 - Malayalam Wikipedia Embassy here: http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_embassy Some other languages like Hindi, Marathi, Telugu also have Embassy. I request all Indian Language Wiki communities to create such a page in their wiki that can be used as forum for the type of discussions that I mentioned above. Some of the best practices that can be followed while creatinng such a page is: - *Appoint some ambassadors* in each wiki who are interested in Indian language inter wiki activities. For Malayalam, we have selected a group of people selected for these. - *Communicate only in English* on this page so that different language Wikipedians can participate in the discussions. - *Place a link to the Embassy page on the side bar* (Make sure this link is NOT localized and it is displayed as *Embassy* itself). Please see Tamil and Malayalam Wikipedia for example. May be in future, we can think about having a Indian wiki conference for the Wikimedians of different Indian languages. That time special emphasis need to be given to the small wikipedias. Regards Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Embassy
We have some major issues here. Not all Indian Language WikiMedians are subscribed to this list. In fact many *doesn't know about the existence of this list* itself. So some of us may need to visit the respective wiki and make them aware about these type of facilities. It is definitely not good to ignore small languages. Their user base can definitely be improved. Active wiki communities can help them in many ways. Once the proposed Embassy pages are created and the actual interaction started happening between different Indian language wiki projects, we can easily start adding the best practices of various Indian language wikipedias in MetaWiki. Shiju On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Ganesh Krishnamurthy ganeshkmur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shiju, Good topic, agree on the need for a Embassy page on each wiki. I think it will be a good idea to setup a page on meta that showcases the best practices in various Indian language wikipedias. This will be useful for smaller wikipedias that have limited resources. It can also serve as central place for discussion. WP:COUNCIL does similar job on English Wikipedia to help out inter-wikiproject communication. Regards, Ganesh On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: One of the important feature that separates Indian WikiMedia community from the WikiMedia communities of other countries is its diversity of languages. There are at least 20 Indian languages in which WikiMedia projects are available Following are those languages. - Assamese ( http://as.wikipedia.orghttp://as.wikipedia.org) - Bengali ( http://bn.wikipedia.orghttp://bn.wikipedia.org) - Bhojpuri ( http://bh.wikipedia.orghttp://bh.wikipedia.org) - Bishnupriya Manipuri ( http://bpy.wikipedia.org http://bpy.wikipedia.org) - Gujarathi ( http://gu.wikipedia.orghttp://gu.wikipedia.org) - Hindi ( http://hi.wikipedia.orghttp://hi.wikipedia.org) - Kannada ( http://kn.wikipedia.orghttp://kn.wikipedia.org) - Kashmiri ( http://ks.wikipedia.orghttp://ks.wikipedia.org) - Malayalam ( http://ml.wikipedia.orghttp://ml.wikipedia.org) - Marathi ( http://mr.wikipedia.orghttp://mr.wikipedia.org) - Nepali ( http://ne.wikipedia.orghttp://ne.wikipedia.org) - Nepal Bhasha/Newari ( http://new.wikipedia.org http://new.wikipedia.org) - Odia (Oriya) ( http://or.wikipedia.orghttp://or.wikipedia.org) - Pali ( http://pi.wikipedia.orghttp://pi.wikipedia.org) - Punjabi ( http://pa.wikipedia.orghttp://pa.wikipedia.org) - Sanskrit ( http://sa.wikipedia.orghttp://sa.wikipedia.org) - Sindhi ( http://sd.wikipedia.orghttp://sd.wikipedia.org) - Tamil ( http://ta.wikipedia.orghttp://ta.wikipedia.org) - Telugu ( http://te.wikipedia.orghttp://te.wikipedia.org) - Urdu ( http://ur.wikipedia.orghttp://ur.wikipedia.org) (*NOTE:* Urdu, Nepali, Tamil, and some other languages are official languages in more than one country.) All these languages use *non-latin scripts* and all of them belong either to *Aryan or Dravidian language family*. So there are many community related (for example, advocacy) and computing related issues (for example, script rendering, usability) that are common to many of these languages. Hence when it comes to computing and community related issues there are many solutions that can be shared between different language communities. But currently, there is no communication happening between different Indian language wiki communities. Because of this, many wiki communities are unaware about the wiki activities that is happening outside their wiki. Big Indian Language Wikipedias like Tamil, Bengali, Tamil and so on have overcome many of the issues since they have large user base. But that is not the case with small Wikipedias like Odiya, Assamese, or some other smaller wikipedias. The *number of active users* of these wikipedias is very less (In some case it is null). Even though it is the duty of the respective language community to build its wiki community, it may not happen overnight due to number of reasons. Hence big Indian language wiki communities can help them to develop a community. For these, we need to have frequent interactions between different wiki communities. But we don't have a common forum in each wiki that can be used for these type of discussions. Hence I request all Indian language Wikipedias to start an *Embassy page*in their respective Wiki. This Embassy page can be used for the inter Wiki related discussions. Tamil and Malayalam Wikipedia have started Embassy long back and we have some healthy discussions happening among us both inside and outside wiki. - Tamil Wikipedia Embassy here: http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%82%E0
[Wikimediaindia-l] Updating the default skin of Indian Language Wikipedias
Hi All, As some of you already know, *Usability Teamhttp://usability.wikimedia.org * is driving the task of updating the default skin of all WikiMedia Foundation wikis to a skin called *Vector*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vector. English Wikipedia and some other big wikis have already moved to *Vector skin* some time back. Apart from the UI, the logo of Wikipedia is also updated http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/wikipedia-in-3d/. Yesterday (2010 June 30) at 10:30 PM IST, some other wikis (that have carried out the formalities required for the UI change) are also moved to the new UI. Among this, 3 Indian Language Wikipedias are also there. Following are those Indian Language wikipedias: - Malayalam - http://ml.wikipedia.org - Bengali - http://bn.wikipedia.org - Telugu - http://te.wikipedia.org Please note the new default skin and the new logo that are appearing on these wikis. (You may need to clear the cache to see the changes. ) Now to move your language wiki to Vector, you have to perform the following two major operations: 1. Update the logo of your wiki 2. Localize the Vector skin system messages Logo update For some languages, logo is already updated. See the list here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0 If your wiki's logo is missing from this list, then you need to create the new logo based on the instructions listed on this page. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/About_the_official_Marks Localizing the Vector skin System messages For the current update, you need to localize the Vector skin system messages. To localize the system messages, use Translate wiki - http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Main_Page The current Localization statistics of Vector skin system messages is available here. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:GerardM/usability-stats You can see that many Indian languages (for example, Tamil) are missing from this list. The reason is, none of the Vector skin system messages are localized for those languages. Even for the big Languages like Hindi and Marathi the percentage of localized messages is very low. So I request the respective Indian Language Wikipedia communities to take required initiative to switch over to the new Skin. Usability team is planning for next set of switch over by the end of July. So you have almost one month to finish these tasks. Once you finish the above tasks you need to: - Let the community know about this upcoming update (Use the village pump, Site Notice, Mailing list, and so on) - Appoint some volunteers to answer the questions related to this - Appoint an ambassador to collect the feedback/issues/bugs and report it to the Usability Team. Please let me know in case you require any support regarding this. Regards Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Telugu Wikipedia newsletter launched
Congrats to Arjuna and other members of the Telugu wiki community, for this very great initiative. Let the other Indian Language Wiki communities also follow this. ---Shiju Alex On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:19 AM, arjuna rao chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am glad to report the launch of Telugu wikipedia newsletter (Tewiki vartha తెవికీ వార్త) with articles on Vector skin and interview with prominent Telugu wikipedian Vyzasatya. http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%A1%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE:%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%86%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80_%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%A4 The plan is to have it more as a blog, than a regular periodical. Regards Coordinators of Tewiki vartha (Arjun Ravichandra) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easyinterface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages
Suppose we go to village fair, we will have people who will be comfortable with inscript. This is very much true. There are many computer users who are conformable only with inscript typing while typing in their mother tongue. And most of them doesn't like to use transliteration. And most of them call inscript as *ISMhttp://pune.cdac.in/html/gist/faq/ism_f.asp *. Shiju On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, arjuna rao chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Arjuna, Thank you, Arjuna. This is the good stuff. I would recommend increasing the size of the text-box for input after the selection of the language and script. Also, most users at public kiosks are more likely to use phonetic input rather than inscript. Thanks for your feedback. Suppose we go to village fair, we will have people who will be comfortable with inscript. It will be even better to have alphabetic ordered on screen keyboard. Cheers Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki meetup at Pune - 2010 September 18
Dear All, Wikimedians from Pune are meeting tomorrow at Pune University. http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%AD%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%9F/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%87/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%87_%E0%A5%A8 Here are the details: - *Date:* : Saturday, *18-September-2010* 5:30 PM ISThttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IST - *Venue:*: Conference room, ground floor, Women's Studies centre, Dr Ambedkar Bhavan, University of Pune Requesting all wikimedians from Pune to attend this meet Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Meet the creatures that created Wikipedia
An interesting article about wiki editors. :) http://getahead.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/sep/23/slide-show-1-gadgets-and-gaming-creatures-that-created-wikipedia.htm ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit Wikisource
Dear Wikimedians, If you are interested to get involved in the *Sanskrit Wikisource* project kindly send an email to Mahitgar (mahit...@yahoo.co.in) or to me ( shijualexonl...@gmail.com). We are trying to coordinate the activities related to that. Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crosses the 25, 000 article mark
Congrats to Tamil wiki community for their hard work. And Tamil Wikipedia happens to be the 4th Indian language Wikipedia to cross the 25,000 article milestone. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:41 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: I'm pleased to inform you all that Tamil Wikipedia has crossed the 25,000 article milestone now. :-) - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mobile editing reading of Wikipedia
Rendering of Malayalam script is very bad. Same might be the case with most of the other Indian scripts. (Devanagari might have reasonable support) So this site is of not much use to Malayalam as of now, even though we are regularly updating it. We cannot expect much as of now since the majority of the software solutions focuses only on Latin script. Hope situation will improve as the contribution from the developers working in Indic language computing increases. Shiju Alex On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:49 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: Ramesh, Could you try http://ml.m.wikipedia.org/ from your phone? (Of course, it'll still need the fonts.) To my knowledge, Malayalam Wikipedia is the only Indian Wikipedia to have a mobile interface (I could be wrong). For Tamil Wikipedia, only the final steps are pending. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture *From:* Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.com *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tue, October 26, 2010 6:30:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mobile editing reading of Wikipedia Data charges definitely is coming down and will be coming down more with the 3G war in India. The support for other languages and unicode should be improved in the mobiles. I have tried ml wikipedia in the Nokia E series with MiniOpera browser. It was really a bad experience for me. The fonts are not properly displaying. Hope to see more improvements especially on the unicode support and fonts in the mobile browsers. regards Ramesh ng On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Srikanth on this issue. I have been using Wikipedia on my phone for over a year and a half, and have even edited several articles from my phone. On 26 October 2010 11:30, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:34, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Arjuna makes a good point on language support. As for the data costs, don't some providers (I know MTS does) provide access to Wikipedia for free? Have you used MTS free Wikipedia? I overheard they are falsely advertising but actually it costs something. (like only en.wiki is free and data charges apply for images on the article from commons). I am not very sure on this, anyone who uses MTS can confirm. But i have to disagree with Arjuna and feel data charges have come down significantly over a period of time now though may still not be affordable to a common man on the street when compared to the dead low voice tariff. More and more alternate ways of consuming Wikipedia on mobile needs to be developed. I particularly find the Wikipedia layer on Google maps for mobile useful while exploring unknown territories. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: English to Hindi Jabber Buddy Bot
Dear All, This information is mainly for the users who edit in Hindi wiki projects. Many a times you require the Hindi translation of English words while you write in Wiki. Here is an online solution for that. Just add the ID eng.hin.d...@jabber.org to your instant messenger. It support most of the messengers including GTalk, Yahoo chat, and so on. The below mail has more details about it. Santhosh Tottingal and his team had developed it. PS: The English -Malayalam dictionary bot is availble at: eng.mal.d...@gmail.com Regards Shiju Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM Subject: [Indlinux-group] English Hindi Jabber Buddy Bot To: Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing disc...@lists.smc.org.in, silpa-disc...@nongnu.org Friends, Our English Malayalam Dictionary Jabber bot was a big success and we have many users for that. Today we are announcing another Dictionary bot - English - Hindi Dictionary bot. To use this service just add eng.hin.d...@jabber.org to your gtalk or IM contacts. Now this bot is your friend and can help you to find meaning of an English word. To get the meaning of the word, send that word as a chat message. Bot will reply with the meaning. Try yourself, it is easy :) The bot code is available in SMC git repository, http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/smc.git And it is programmed by myself, Ershad, Ragsagar and Sarath Lakshman. We are using the freedict-eng-hin dict protocol based dictionary for this service. Thanks Santhosh Thottingal - ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: English to Hindi Jabber Buddy Bot
A review of this tool is available at: http://emadad.hindyugm.com/2010/10/know-hindi-meanings-while-chatting.html On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, this is great. Thanks for the heads up Shiju. Now I won't have to sit with that heavy dictionary on my lap. :P On 28 October 2010 12:44, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, This information is mainly for the users who edit in Hindi wiki projects. Many a times you require the Hindi translation of English words while you write in Wiki. Here is an online solution for that. Just add the ID eng.hin.d...@jabber.org to your instant messenger. It support most of the messengers including GTalk, Yahoo chat, and so on. The below mail has more details about it. Santhosh Tottingal and his team had developed it. PS: The English -Malayalam dictionary bot is availble at: eng.mal.d...@gmail.com Regards Shiju Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM Subject: [Indlinux-group] English Hindi Jabber Buddy Bot To: Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing disc...@lists.smc.org.in, silpa-disc...@nongnu.org Friends, Our English Malayalam Dictionary Jabber bot was a big success and we have many users for that. Today we are announcing another Dictionary bot - English - Hindi Dictionary bot. To use this service just add eng.hin.d...@jabber.org to your gtalk or IM contacts. Now this bot is your friend and can help you to find meaning of an English word. To get the meaning of the word, send that word as a chat message. Bot will reply with the meaning. Try yourself, it is easy :) The bot code is available in SMC git repository, http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/smc.git And it is programmed by myself, Ershad, Ragsagar and Sarath Lakshman. We are using the freedict-eng-hin dict protocol based dictionary for this service. Thanks Santhosh Thottingal - ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiktionary now Top 10 globally
Learn why the Indonesian Wikipedia has a much easier ride.. Fix the language technology issues. Yes you are correct. Indonesian language use Latin script. That is why it has a much easier ride. As you have rightly pointed out there are many technology issues that needs to be fixed for most of the Indian languages. But many of us still do not understand the importance of these. Shiju On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, The Dutch Wikipedia is currently the number 10 in traffic. With only som 20 million people speaking the language there is plenty of scope for Indian languages to do better. Wishing them to do better makes no difference. So here are a few things that will make a difference: - Make sure that the Indian chapter has money to spend. Make sure that Jimmy's message is localised and that the messages at translatewiki.netthat deal with the donations are localised (Hindi is at 0% Malayalam at 100%) - Make sure that the localisation for your language is complete and up to date. This represents a vast improvement in usability - Make sure that the public finds the articles they are looking for.\ - Learn why the Indonesian Wikipedia has a much easier ride.. Fix the language technology issues. - Have a plan on how your community will prioritise the things that need doing - Be happy with any and all improvements and let it be known.. A positive happy atmosphere in itself makes it easier to have fun while realising objectives (ie doing the work) Having money helps, making sure that the Fundraiser does an optimal job needs to be done now. It also shows the WMF organisation that you are to be taken seriously. Thanks, GerardM The Donate Interfacehttp://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=ext-di-di and the Payflow Pro Gatewayhttp://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=ext-di-pfpg extensions may be looking for your localisations.. On 15 November 2010 09:48, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:11 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Would love to see atleast one Indic language on top 10 of every Wikimedia project in next 5 years. +1 Agreed, Tinu. Great work, guys! :) Anirudh Bhati 00 91 9328712208 Skype: anirudhsbh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] List of Indian language wiki projects
Kannada. See the Tulu incubator link: http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/tcy/%E0%B2%AE%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%96%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AF_%E0%B2%AA%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%9F On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote: Added Tulu language wiki also to the list of incubator wikis. Out of curiosity, which script will be used on the Tulu Wiki? ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] List of Indian language wiki projects
I have added all the Indian language wikipedias that are in incubator also to this list. But this list is still not complete. Only the information about the wikipedia project is added. Sister projects (wikitionary, wikibooks, and so on) of many languages are in incubator. We need to gather that information also and add it to this list. I have generated the above list for the purpose of Newsletter. But that list was not complete. Shiju On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.comwrote: Please help to update following pages also http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Support_from_the_Government http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Institutional_Support Thanks, Naveen Francis Corrected a few spelling and grammatical errors on the page. Will also try to update the page as soon as I get any further details regarding this topic. Regards, -- Vivek Varghese Cherian Senior Systems Administrator RHCT (# 605010995430406) Member of USENIX,SAGE,LOPSA Website : http://www.vivekcherian.com Blog: http://www.vivekcherian.net Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/vivekvc IRC: Vivek and ViveKVC on both Freenode and OFTC GPG Key fingerprint = 1EB1 0647 9574 18A3 40B5 8D74 F842 576B 3C2B 8538 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] You will love Erik Zachte for this :)
Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju) perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a conversation with Erik about this. This report is a subset of the report that is already available at http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/Sitemap.htm But it is real pain to filter and take the information of only those languages that we want (in our case, it is Indian language wikis). In fact I was preparing my monthly report like that only (using the above link) for the past 3 years. When I went to Gdansk to attend Wikimania 2010, I met Erik Zachte and we discussed various topics related to his wonderful site and statistical reports. During discussion, I mentioned the about the above issue with him. This special report for Indian languages came out as a result of that conversation with Erik. He published a post regarding this at http://infodisiac.com/blog/2010/11/wikipedia-reports-filtered-by-region/ I am happy that he remembered my request and implemented it. Article quality, page views, edits per article, number of active users, and so on are part of this new report also. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN_India/Sitemap.htm Shiju On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: This is invaluable - thank you Erik, and thanks Gerard for bringing it to attention. Erik, I know that you report geographic trends on EN on the main stats page, is there any way you can easily and comprehensibly integrate India edits and readership to EN on the India page? That would be very helpful, esp. as it probably dominates all other Indian languages currently (and since English is an official Indian language too). Also, Shiju has been putting out India stats for some time now, and (Shiju) perhaps you can share/integrate what you do, in terms of depth, article quality and editorship with this information - perhaps you can have a conversation with Erik about this. Good wishes, Achal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Inbuilt Tamil typing tool added in Tamil Wikimedia projects
What is the nature of the effort involved say to extend this to Telugu, kannada, Hindi etc. Junaid has already (partially)* extended* this solution to Hindi, Marathi, Sanskrit, and Bhojpuri wikipedias. You can see the respective wikipedias to see the Transliteration solution developed by Junaid working there. Among these Sanskrit wikipedia (http://sa.wikipedia.org) has the best Devanagri transliteration solution since many people cooperated with Junaid for its testing. But currently *only Transliteration* solution is available in those wikipedias. Rest of the solutions (for example, inscript) need to developed. Junaid is working on it. A transliteration solution is already available in *Kannada* and *Telugu*wikipedias. But it is not advanced as the one developed by Junaid. If the respective language communities cooperate with the testing (of the respective script) we can easily extend it to other Indian languages. Thanks Shiju On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowgi.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are glad to inform that inbuilt Tamil typing tool has been added in Tamil Wikipedia and Tamil WikiNews. After some testing, we will add it in other Wikimedia projects and release the code for use in all sites using MediaWiki. We hope that this will help many first time editors and increase Tamil word searches in the site search box. This was possible as a follow up of the recent Chennai Wikimedia meetup when Malayalam Wikimedia user Shiju Alex urged us to have this tool. Then Malayalam Wikimedia user Junaid. P. V. joined the team to transfer the code from Malayalam Wiki and modified it for Tamil needs. All work done in a week and three cheers for the interwiki collaborative spirit of Malayalam Wikipedians. It is natural to go greedy! Can we extend this to other Indian languages as well. What is the nature of the effort involved say to extend this to Telugu, kannada, Hindi etc. -- GN ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Updates on Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia
Congrats to Tamil community for trying to bring out a process for Google's Translation project. I really wonder how other language communities are handling this. Apart from Tamil, Google Translation project is going on at least in Hindi, Kannada, and Telugu. It is banned in Bengali wiki. I could see many articles are loaded to wikis each day. And for many of them the only contributor is the Google employee who translated it. Shiju On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks a lot for the update. I think the updated process is similar with Open source community philosophy when Commercial companies (like IBM, Sun etc) contribute source code. Tamil Wiki has that kind of rigor in quality checking and is able to do a good job. Other Wikipedias may not be in a position to engage in a similar way, due to policies and/or level of active wikipedians. One more comment below. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some updates on the Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia. --snip We did a quality review of these articles and found that only around 50% of them has an acceptable minimum quality regarding translation ( We just rated the style of the language and accuracy in translation. We did not do a full review on the merit of the article). --snip-- Can you elaborate more on the style? How did you measure the accuracy of translation? It may be desirable to adopt the English articles for the target wikipedia, than verbatim translation. How much effort was spent to arrive at the above conclusions? # of articles, # of reviewers, time frame etc would help. Thanks Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Translation of the Malayalam FAQ hand book
Dear All*, *Many Indian Language Wikimedians have asked me to provide the English translation of the *Malayalam FAQ hand book *that we distribute to our new users (during our Malayalam Wiki workshops). With the support from many Malayalam wikimedians finally we were able to complete a rough translation of the FAQs to English. Here are the translated FAQs: *http://wikimedia.in/wiki/FAQ *Please note that it is not a perfect word to word translation of the Malayalam FAQs. But you can use it as a base to create the same type of FAQ handbook for your language wiki. All the most important FAQs are included in this translation. We done this in a hurry so that Bengali wikipedians can use that for their next week's wiki work shop. If anyone is willing to enhance the English version please feel free to do so. While translating, please remember to replace the references of Malayalam wiki to your language wiki projects and localize the FAQs to suit the requirements of the speakers of your language. There might more FAQs that are relevant to the speakers of your language. But limit the number of FAQs to 25 or so since the target audience of this handbook is new users and general public. Please do not include questions about complicated policies of wikipedia by citing various acronyms and links. Keep the questions and answers as simple as possible. I thank the following Malayalam wikimedians who helped in this translation effort: - Praveen P - Sunil V.S - Sreejith K - Challiyan - Francis Simy Nazareth - Jyothis - Rajesh K Hope this effort will be of some help to the other Indian language wiki communities. For your reference, here are the revisions of the Malayalam version: - *First edition*http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/MalayalamWiki_FAQ_2010_April_17.pdf- Released on 2010 April 17 - *Second edition*http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Malayalam_Wiki_Projects_FAQ_version_2.0.pdf- Released on 2010 November 30 Thanks Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Wikimeetup1 @ Kolkata, Dec 2010 Photos
Dear All, Next time onwards when you plan for the Bengali wiki workshop please make sure you give news about it in the Bengali Newspapers. The news must appear at least 2 or 3 days before the workshop. Then only people can make arrangements to attend it. For Malayalam we do like that. It will have huge impact on the number of peoples attending the wiki workshop. Shiju On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Ragib Hasan ragibha...@gmail.com wrote: Nice article ... conveys the points quite well. Thanks a lot to Suruchi Gupta. @Jayanta, has there been any coverage in the Bengali news media? We can get many new contributors if someone can write an article in Bengali and publish in the Bengali news papers. We had a lot of success in that way in Bangladesh. Ragib User:Ragib Bureaucrat: Bengali Wikipedia Administrator: English Wikipedia -- Ragib Hasan, Ph.D NSF Computing Innovation Fellow and Assistant Research Scientist Dept of Computer Science Johns Hopkins University 3400 N Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Website: http://www.ragibhasan.com On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:16 AM, jayanta nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I am sharing with you todays Hindustan Times News article by Suruchi Gupta On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:32 PM, jayanta nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Tinu and Shiju, Thanks you both for images of Kolkata Meetup 3. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kolkata_Meetup_Dec2010 Warm regards, Jayanta Nath On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:03 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia Wikimeetup1 @ Kolkata, Dec 2010 Photos http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kolkata_Meetup_Dec2010 There were around 18+ attendees for the first Wikimeetup @Kolkata . I would like to express my sincere thanks to Jayanata Nath, Indranil Das Gupta Shiju Alex for all the efforts in putting things together for a successful meetup, at one of the ancient cities of India. Special thanks to Bishakha Datta Achal Prabhala for all the encouragement support in our efforts. One of us will be sending a detailed report on the meetup soon. Regards Tinu Cherian -- Jayanta Nath -- Jayanta Nath ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Community Newsletter
Dear All, As all of you know, the first edition of the *Wikimedia India Community Newsletter*http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_India_Community_Newsletter_2010_September.pdfwas released by Barry Newstead on 2010 September. The wikimedians associated with the Newsletter know that much effort had put behind to bring out the first edition. We all are happy to see that the newsletter is well received by Wikimedians across the world. There were many obstacles faced while we were working on the first edition. But the community was able to overcome all these and bring out the first edition. There are many lessons learned during this process. Now almost 3 months had passed after we released the first edition. It is important that this initiative needs to be carried forward. In the past 2 months many people have asked me about the second edition of the Newsletter. Even though I voluntarily coordinated the various activities for the first edition, I am no longer in a position to continue that for the future editions. It is better to *form a team* *of active Indian Wikimedians* to coordinate the various activities of the Wikimedia India Newsletter. I request the help and support from different Indian language wiki communities to take this initiative forward. The idea is to* form a team with 2 or 3 active users from each language community* and coordinate the activities for the Wikimedia India Newletter. *Srikanth Lakshmanan* has informed me that he will help me to form the initial setup. Once the initial setup is formed the complete responsibility of the Newsletter rest with this Newsletter team. *Eligibility:* The only criteria that needs to be fulfilled to be part of this initiative is, * the person must be an active wikimedian* in any of the Indian language wiki community. The person needs to be part of the language community and should be able to coordinate with the respective language community to prepare content for the Newsletter. The respective language community can decide which active users can be part of the Newsletter team. Please send a mail to me (shijualexonl...@gmail.com) and Srikanth ( srik@gmail.com) so that we can take this forward. Thanks Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
Dear All, I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*. With almost 250 active editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30) among all theIndian wikis. The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the major active wikis is provided below. Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up Malayalam 1002375 Hindi 913612 Tamil 688891 Marathi 665774 Telugu 578760 Urdu 376948 Kannada 186771 Gujarati 133134 Sanskrit 101517 Data is collected on 2011 January 24. Thanks Shiju Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Anoop anoop@gmail.com Date: 2011/1/25 Subject: [Wikiml-l] മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം എഡിറ്റുകൾ To: Malayalam wiki project mailing list wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ, ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ ജനുവരി 22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന അമ്പത്തി ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1]. ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ, കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്. മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക. *ഭാഷ (language)* * തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of edits since wiki is set up) * മലയാളം (Malayalam) 1002375 ബംഗാളി (bengali) 922606 ഹിന്ദി (Hindi) 913612 തമിഴ് (Tamil) 688891 മറാത്തി (Marathi) 665774 തെലുഗ് (Telugu) 578760 ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948 കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771 ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati) 133134 സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit) 101517 [1] ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി. *അവലംബം* 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias അനൂപ് ___ Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
Sorry, missed Bengali wikipedia from the below list. Bengali wikipedia has *9,22,606* edits. It is placed in the second position after Malayalam. Shiju 2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com Dear All, I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*. With almost 250 active editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30) among all theIndian wikis. The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the major active wikis is provided below. Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up Malayalam 1002375 Hindi 913612 Tamil 688891 Marathi 665774 Telugu 578760 Urdu 376948 Kannada 186771 Gujarati 133134 Sanskrit 101517 Data is collected on 2011 January 24. Thanks Shiju Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Anoop anoop@gmail.com Date: 2011/1/25 Subject: [Wikiml-l] മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം എഡിറ്റുകൾ To: Malayalam wiki project mailing list wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ, ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ ജനുവരി 22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന അമ്പത്തി ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1]. ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ, കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്. മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക. *ഭാഷ (language)* * തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of edits since wiki is set up) * മലയാളം (Malayalam) 1002375 ബംഗാളി (bengali) 922606 ഹിന്ദി (Hindi) 913612 തമിഴ് (Tamil) 688891 മറാത്തി (Marathi) 665774 തെലുഗ് (Telugu) 578760 ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948 കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771 ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati) 133134 സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit) 101517 [1] ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി. *അവലംബം* 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias അനൂപ് ___ Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might also be possible with the the Google translation project. In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it. More edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article. Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article. :) *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail? When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub articles. Shiju On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam Wikipedia doesn't though... -Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
In fact, bot edits in Indian Wikis is also an interesting metric. For example, see the below table to understand share of the *percentage of bot edits* across some major Indian wikis. - Bengali - 76 - Bishnupriya Manipuri - 97 - Gujarati - 37 - Hindi - 50 - Kannada - 59 - Malayalam - 42 - Marathi - 62 - Sanskrit - 85 - Tamil - 51 - Telugu - 51 - Urdu - 59 I know that for some Indian language wikipedians the only relevant metric is *number of articles*. But of course, not for the Malayalam wikipedians. We saw much value in all the metric that is published at http://stats.wikimedia.org/. I know many others are also finding value to it, that is why it is published every month. Shiju Alex On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: Praveen, You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki friends. ;) We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation in one of the finest Indian wikis. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :) I don't think anyone doubted that. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture *From:* praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote: Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia has its strength and its weakness. Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say thats not wiki style :( . But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will create a great bot :). Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots, most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing the owner (Recent eg: See history of വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BEaction=history). Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is not, whenever a bot identified as doing unwanted edit it gets blocked. There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം) pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic. In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using talk pages aslo very well. It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental to depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam
[Wikimediaindia-l] Updating the logo of Indian Language Wikipedias
Dear Indic language wikipedians, As many of you know the default skin of wikipedias (including that of all Indic language wikipedias) is moved to the new Vector skin some time back. Please see the below mail that I sent to this list regrading this on *2010 July 1*. As some of you know, along with this update, the logo of wikipedia is also updated. The current logo is available herehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0. But even though almost 6 months had passed after this major update, only Bengali http://bn.wikipedia.org, Malayalam http://ml.wikipedia.org, Urduhttp://ur.wikipedia.org, and Telugu http://te.wikipedia.org wiki communities had took initiatives to update the logo. The logo update is still pending for the following Indian language wikis. - Assamese - http://as.wikipedia.org - Bhojpuri - http://bh.wikipedia.org - Bishnupriya Manipuri - http://bpy.wikipedia.org/ - Divehi - http://dv.wikipedia.org - Gujarati - http://gu.wikipedia.org - Hindi - http://hi.wikipedia.org - Kannada - http://kn.wikipedia.org/ - Kashmiri - http://ks.wikipedia.org/ - Marathi - http://mr.wikipedia.org - Nepali - http://ne.wikipedia.org - Oriya - http://or.wikipedia.org - Pali - http://pi.wikipedia.org - Punjabi - http://pa.wikipedia.org - Sanskrit - http://sa.wikipedia.org - Sindhi - http://sd.wikipedia.org - Tamil - http://ta.wikipedia.org Carry Bass (User:Bastique http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique) has took initiative to create the new logo for some of the Indian language wikis. But for languages like Kannada, Oriya, and so on even that is pending. Even if the new logo is created a bug needs to be filed by the respective wiki community to change the logo. So for most of the Indian wikis both these tasks are pending now. I request the respective language communities to take initiatives to create the new logo and file a bug for this update. The guidelines for creating the new logo is listed at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation Please write to me if any of the language communities require any type of support regarding this. Regards Shiju Alex -- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 06:43:08 +0200 From: shijualexonl...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Updating the default skin of Indian Language Wikipedias Hi All, As some of you already know, *Usability Teamhttp://usability.wikimedia.org * is driving the task of updating the default skin of all WikiMedia Foundation wikis to a skin called *Vector*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vector. English Wikipedia and some other big wikis have already moved to *Vector skin* some time back. Apart from the UI, the logo of Wikipedia is also updated http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/wikipedia-in-3d/. Yesterday (2010 June 30) at 10:30 PM IST, some other wikis (that have carried out the formalities required for the UI change) are also moved to the new UI. Among this, 3 Indian Language Wikipedias are also there. Following are those Indian Language wikipedias: - Malayalam - http://ml.wikipedia.org - Bengali - http://bn.wikipedia.org - Telugu - http://te.wikipedia.org Please note the new default skin and the new logo that are appearing on these wikis. (You may need to clear the cache to see the changes. ) Now to move your language wiki to Vector, you have to perform the following two major operations: 1. Update the logo of your wiki 2. Localize the Vector skin system messages Logo update For some languages, logo is already updated. See the list here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0 If your wiki's logo is missing from this list, then you need to create the new logo based on the instructions listed on this page. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/About_the_official_Marks Localizing the Vector skin System messages For the current update, you need to localize the Vector skin system messages. To localize the system messages, use Translate wiki - http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Main_Page The current Localization statistics of Vector skin system messages is available here. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:GerardM/usability-stats You can see that many Indian languages (for example, Tamil) are missing from this list. The reason is, none of the Vector skin system messages are localized for those languages. Even for the big Languages like Hindi and Marathi the percentage of localized messages is very low. So I request the respective Indian Language Wikipedia communities to take required initiative to switch over to the new Skin. Usability team is planning for next set of switch over by the end of July. So you have almost one month to finish these tasks. Once you finish the above tasks you need to: - Let the community know about this upcoming update (Use the village pump, Site Notice, Mailing list, and so
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter
Enabling the use of images on Commons is just a small configuration away. I am sure and know that there are competent people who can help you with that. Enabling Commons images for a MediaWiki installation is very simple. I thought many in the list know about this. Malayalam wikimedians have implemented this feature in their community website (http://mlwiki.in/wiki/) sometime back. To enable commons in our private wiki, just add the below code in the * LocalSettings.php* file *$wgUseInstantCommons = true; * This feature is called *InstantCommons*, and many of us are using it. See more details at - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia#InstantCommons - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, Enabling the use of images on Commons is just a small configuration away. I am sure and know that there are competent people who can help you with that. Thanks, GerardM On 1 February 2011 07:59, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, Sue. Once the technical issue of file upload (pointed out by Tinu) is resolved by moving to Wikimedia servers, we'll certainly add mugshots of the EC members. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message From: Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 5:44:17 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter On 30 January 2011 03:04, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Following is a list of activities (compiled by ArunRam for an internal discussion) of the chapter prior to registration (which itself turned out to be a huge exercise): Hi Sundar, Thanks so much for sending that list, and thanks to ArunRam for creating it -- I found it really useful. I don't spend a lot of time on this mailing list, or on the Indian chapter wiki, and it helped me feel caught up :-) Here's a small suggestion, which you should ignore if you like. Personally, I'd love if the chapter would post photos of its Executive Committee members on the site here: http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Executive_Committee_Members. I think I've probably met half of the Executive Committee members over the years, but it'd be easier for me to mentally keep faces attached to names if there were images on the wiki. Feel free to ignore that, if it'd be a hassle. Thanks, Sue -- Sue Gardner Executive Director Wikimedia Foundation 415 839 6885 office 415 816 9967 cell Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Survey regarding Indic wikis
Mayur might have forgot to set the privacy setting of the document to * Public*. Hope he will change the privacy settings soon. Shiju On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, I wanted to have a look but I learned that I need permission. You can allow the world to see without giving permission to change the document I am sure. Thanks, GerardM On 2 February 2011 11:28, mayur mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am mayur a hindi wikipedian.I have prepared a survey to determine overall quality of a wikipedia project.Here is the link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IFphBpq14eMUjoBcy0wk-WWQNTQ5vxpq_o285DyrqvU/edit?hl=en for survey report. Here is the Summary for that *Why did we do that survey?* As we know there are lots of Indic wiki projects having different number of active users and article. However we simply differentiate them on behalf of number of articles or depth but that cannot give us an actual overall growth of that project because many projects are simply bot generated as we know about Nepal bhasha and Bishnupriya Manipuri Wikipedia. Simply a project growth can be measured from its article quality and number of articles both. A project having large no of articles having good quality of article has grown faster. *How did we measure quality of a wiki project?* Quality of a wiki project is simply depends upon how many articles are developed from their stubs root. Generally each article is started from a stub. Now quality of the article mainly depends upon how much time it has been edited and how many words are in it or how many long the article is? So we choose different factor which directly affects the quality of article. These are- 1) *Nr. of good articles (Articles having size2 KB)* Simply a project having more articles of size 2 KB has grown much in comparison to another. But this alone cannot decide quality of a project that’s why we included some another factors. We simply took the percentage of articles having size greater than 2 KB. We gave a marking scale of 150 to this. 2) *Nr. of Average articles (Articles having size0.5 KB)* Simply to filter the stubs we choose this criteria, we gave marking scale of 100 to this just less than above because article having size greater than 2 KB reflects much growth in comparison to 0.5 KB article. 3) *Average number of words in an article* That was too tricky to calculate but we simply divided total number of words in a project by total nr. of articles in it for a rough estimate. To keep this in the marking scale of 100 we simply multiplied the output value by 0.1 In our formula. 4) *Avg. size of article (KB)* That was also tricky to calculate but we simply divided total size of a project by total nr. of articles in it for a rough estimate. To keep this in the marking scale of 100 we simply multiplied the output value by 10 In our formula. 5) *Main space edit per total nr. Of articles* That was also an important factor to know how frequently an article is being edited for being updated. Output value was already on a scale of 100 so we did not multiply of divided that value. 6) *Total Edits/article* This is also an Important factor because it reflects how much extra edits (that includes categorization, image uploads and some other similar factors) are being performed in a wiki project. As Output value was already on a scale of 100 so we did not multiply of divided that value. 7) *Bot edits* That was the most important factor because all the factor that we discussed can be gained at high value by running bots like in Nepal bhasha and Bishnupriya Manipuri Wikipedia. So we simply multiplied the overall score by percentage non bot edits. However bots edits in some extant are also a necessary part. So we just set the 50% bot edits as a cut off mark. For A wiki having more than 50% of bot edits we simply multiplied total score by (100-(bot edits if larger than 50%-50)) *Formula for Quality factor = (R*0.1+Q*10+E+F*1.5+P+O)*(100-N)/100* *R- Average number of words in an article* *Q- Avg. size of article (KB)* *E- Article greater than 2kb* *F-* *Article greater than 0.5kb* *P-* *Total Edits/article* *O-* *Mainspace edit per total nr. Of articles* *N-* *Share of Bot edits (%)* * * *Overall Score = Number of articles * Quality factor* * * * * ** *Thank you and Regards* *Mayur* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindi wiki workshop at New Delhi - 2011 February 12
Dear All, We request the support from few online volunteers (who can read and write in Hindi) to prepare few help materials for Hindi wiki projects. Please send an email to mayur...@gmail.com or shijualexonl...@gmail.com if you are willing to help. Shiju Alex On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:44 PM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Wikimedians, Hindi Wikimedians are very happy to announce the first Hindi Workshop for Hindi at NewDelhi. I am organizing this wikiworkshop with the support/guidance from Shiju Alex. Here are the details of the program. - Program: Hindi wiki workshop - Where: Sarai-CSDS, 29 Rajpur Road, Civil Lines Delhi - 110054, India, Ph no: 91-11-23928391, 23942199 - Date: 2011 February 12, Saturday - Time: 3 PM to 6 PM - Who can participate: Any one interested in Hindi wiki projects. Agenda - Introducing Hindi wiki projects, its current status - Typing in Hindi wikipedia - Editing in Hindi wikipedia ...and other topics which are of interest to the new users. The details of the wiki workshop are available at: Hindi wikiworkshop New delhihttp://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF_%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%A8/%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%88_%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%80_%E0%A5%A7. Kindly sign on the wiki page or send an email to mayur...@gmail.com if you/your friend is willing to attend this workshop. Call for volunteers We require the help of some volunteers who are good in Hindi to prepare some handouts for this workshop. Kindly send an email to mayur...@gmail.com if you are willing to help. Thank you and regards Mayur ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikibasha and code signature
But i have no idea if Microsoft will actually listen to us. If wikibasha is used in your respective wiki's and keeps adding this signature, please urge the wikibasha developers to stop this practice. It all depends on how active the respective wiki community is. If the language wikis have an active community and strong policies then corportaes like Google or Microsoft can not overrule that. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft's translation tool Wikibasha creates a code snippet like this - !-- WikiBhasha v=1 time=2011-2-6:11:20:20:309-- at the bottom of the article everytime it is used to edit wikipedia pages. I found this out when the MS representative made sample edits to Tamil wikipedia. He claims that they need this to track the edits made using wikibasha. I believe this practice is highly disruptive because, adding such a signature to the bottom of the article is a)tantamount to claiming that the entire article is the work of wikibasha b) If we allow this practice, then all automated tools will start adding their code snippets, bloating the page with useless code signatures. wikipedians who took part in yesterday's carte blanche wiki workshop at chennai have conveyed this to the representative and have recommended using the tag in edit summaries instead. But i have no idea if Microsoft will actually listen to us. I thought i would inform the wider indic wiki communities regarding this. If wikibasha is used in your respective wiki's and keeps adding this signature, please urge the wikibasha developers to stop this practice. regards Bala On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote: Almost similar issue with Tulu language also. http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/tcy On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: which script is being used now? devanagari or kannada? On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:35 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The Hindu : Konkani Wikipedia bogged down by multiple scripts http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/article1141587.ece Regards Tinu Cherian http://wikimedia.in/wiki/In_the_news ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Beauty lies in the eyes of the beer holder ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With Regards, Anoop P ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Beauty lies in the eyes of the beer holder ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-del] Hindi wiki workshop at New Delhi - 2011 February 12
:) It is fine in that case. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:10 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: I agree. It is just a placeholder to redirect interested folks to the event and tracking purposes. Please note the summary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Delhi/Delhi4#Summary Btw now a days, there is only a thin line of difference between Wiki meetups, Wiki academies and workshops etc. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: This is not Wiki meetup, but a Hindi wiki workshop/academy. And the focus of this workshop is purely Hindi wiki projects. Shiju On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Created a placeholder for the Hindi Wikipedia Wikimeetup/Workshop on en.wiki also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Delhi/Delhi4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Delhi/Delhi4Regards Tinu Cherian On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, We request the support from few online volunteers (who can read and write in Hindi) to prepare few help materials for Hindi wiki projects. Please send an email to mayur...@gmail.com or shijualexonline@gmail.comif you are willing to help. Shiju Alex On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:44 PM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Wikimedians, Hindi Wikimedians are very happy to announce the first Hindi Workshop for Hindi at NewDelhi. I am organizing this wikiworkshop with the support/guidance from Shiju Alex. Here are the details of the program. - Program: Hindi wiki workshop - Where: Sarai-CSDS, 29 Rajpur Road, Civil Lines Delhi - 110054, India, Ph no: 91-11-23928391, 23942199 - Date: 2011 February 12, Saturday - Time: 3 PM to 6 PM - Who can participate: Any one interested in Hindi wiki projects. Agenda - Introducing Hindi wiki projects, its current status - Typing in Hindi wikipedia - Editing in Hindi wikipedia ...and other topics which are of interest to the new users. The details of the wiki workshop are available at: Hindi wikiworkshop New delhihttp://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF_%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%A8/%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%88_%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%80_%E0%A5%A7. Kindly sign on the wiki page or send an email to mayur...@gmail.com if you/your friend is willing to attend this workshop. Call for volunteers We require the help of some volunteers who are good in Hindi to prepare some handouts for this workshop. Kindly send an email to mayur...@gmail.com if you are willing to help. Thank you and regards Mayur ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimedia-in-del mailing list wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-del ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l
why Praveen's message does not appear in the archive for WikimediaIndia-l, even though messages subsequent to it - like mine - do? Praveen's mail is there in the archive. Even though we all have received Praveen's reply *only today*, it is archived as the mail of 2011 Feb 8 (the actual date on which that mail was sent). I assume even if some one's mail is moderated it will be archived as the mail of the original date. Shiju Alex On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Hari and Anirudh, Further to my message below, could you help me understand why Praveen's message does not appear in the archive for WikimediaIndia-l, even though messages subsequent to it - like mine - do? http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/date.html I'm sure there must be some simple technical reason for this, just asking to understand better how moderation/ archiving works. Best, Achal Original Message Subject:Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:14:50 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Dear Hari and Anirudh, As moderators of WikimediaIndia-l, could you describe the policy you normally adopt towards moderation? Do you only block obvious spam or other messages, and if so on what basis? I am naturally curious since a message from Praveen that you only just released seems to have been sent in 3 days ago. Furthermore, I think we'd benefit from understanding how people may apply to become administrators on this list. In light of Anirudh's recent appointment to administrator of this list, is there an open process by which other members might apply? (Foundation-l seems to have three administrators, though I would imagine that there is nothing stopping WikimediaIndia-l from having more than three). Please note that I don't ask with persecutory intent, but merely to clear gaps in my own understanding, which might be a problem that other people on this list face as well. Since WikimediaIndia-l is such an important place for all kinds of conversations that cut across the movement in India, it's in all our interests to know exactly how it is managed. Best regards, Achal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l
*Aniruth said: * At this point of time, *we don't feel the need for having more list administrators*, however list subscribers who are interested in keeping a check on the spam filter as moderators can write an email to either list admins. This type of reply is not expected from a moderator, even after keeping one member's mail under moderation for more than 3 days because of the busy schedule of the moderators. Since current moderators are very busy, I assume already few community members offered their help to support them. Also since this is not a Wikimedia India Chapter specific mailing list it is not good to have both the moderators from the EC. *Theo1011 said* I have been a subscriber to this list for a while now, the registration happened a month ago and they've already been accused of miscommunication, chair-shifting and so on. In case you are not a subscriber during 2010 March, read this mail thread. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2010-March/000474.html So the issue not new. Shiju On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jyothis I believe Sudhir Ponappa for one sounded aggressive, designation of a troll is not that far-fetched. You can check with Casey as a neutral observer if that comment was worth moderation or not. I would also include the post on the other thread by praveenp which is responsible for this thread and this entire line of questioning as another example. I hope, I don't need to quote and point out what I am talking about. If anyone on this list has any concerns about the chapter, please feel free to take them up. I feel that this list is being overtaken by issues of chapter accountability. I don't like that this list is being used primarily for chapter relations. There are other issues too, besides the Indian chapter in India. Second, I have been keeping out for the most part on this entire Chapter accountability thing, one thing that seems rather strange is the repeated accusation of miscommunication. I have been a subscriber to this list for a while now, the registration happened a month ago and they've already been accused of miscommunication, chair-shifting and so on. What happened to assuming good faith? is a month enough of a time to justify this questioning? Jyothis, I think you as a steward should be the voice of reason in this, feel free to ask questions directly and if the chapter doesn't reply then it should reflect on them, but please don't let this list be overtaken by these questions. There are others things besides the chapter. Theo10011 On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Jyothis Edathoot j...@jyothis.net wrote: Hari, Couldnt help asking, but could you please point out whom are you referring as trolls here and who attacked you (or any member of EC) personally? As far as I see this, community members raised multiple concerns here and other threads about transparency in EC's actions and we, as community members, would expect the EC to clarify things, rather than coming around and calling them trolls and marking it as personal attacks. Such a line of defense is not expected from a person sitting in the secretary post of the current EC. Just to add, you very well know that the concerns that we see here is not something new and has that has been around the time the formation plans were announced. I hope you remember the conversation even we had and the discussions that happened right at the out set in mailing lists. Sorry to say this, but I dont think there was any serious efforts came from forming group to reach out to the communities to fixi things up. Atleast not to my knowledge and I may be wrong. No one has said that the list mods has not done there job. If the community feels that the current mods are getting swamped and more mods are needed, I would assume that it is up to them, as it is their list. just my opinion, rest of my fellow community members may disagree and correct me if I am wrong. Regards, Jyothis. http://www.Jyothis.net http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com woods are lovely dark and deep, but i have promises to keep and miles to go before i sleep and lines to go before I press sleep completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Hari Prasad Nadig hpna...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Achal, The below email seems to be trying to address too many things. I'll try to answer some of those. I appreciate your continued interest in the Chapter activity, considering that you were the one who started this out by putting together the initial team. It is probably unfair to say that the chapter hasn't communicated much on time in just the last one month right after it has got registered
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages
Since the tool is under the early stages of development, I know it is not good to expect a perfect PDF. Some general comments are: - For Malayalam, eventhough the text rendering is almost perfect, I could find there are some unwnated space inserted with in few words. I assume it is due to the *justification alignment* used. In general I feel it is better to keep left align text for the paragraphs. May be we can add this an option in PDF generation tool. - By default, it is better to place images inline with the text. May be an additional option to remove images from rendered PDF or place images below the corresponding paragraph can be added in the tool. - The first page of the PDF need to be have some information. May be the introduction paragraph can be included in the first page. It is not good to keep it blank. - The refernces/href links and so on need to be handled in better way. Since the tool is still under under development I am not going for in depth analysis. \ Shiju On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are working on a Complex script PDF rendering library named PyPDFLib(https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pypdflib/). One of its test case (or use case) is to render a wiki page in complex script(any Indian Language) to PDF. Currently PDF export feature is not available(not working) for Indian language wiki projects because of technical incapability of Python Reportlab library. Just wanted to give an early preview of this software library through an online interface : http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render You can try with a Wikipedia page in your language and verify the generated PDF. You can also access this using this URL http://silpa.smc.org.in/Render?wiki=http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/இலங்கை (replace that wiki URL with other page addresses too - any Ianguage - not limited to Indian languages) There are lot of items not implemented, but your feedback is requested on the current version. The library uses Pango for text rendering and Cairo for graphics and PDF features. ps: Don't get surprised if you get a 500 Error page for the random page you are trying. Just try another wiki page ;) Thanks Santhosh Thottingal http://thottingal.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A report on the Trichy wikimeetup/workshop
Bala, Thank you very much for the excellent report. Hope many of the participants will already be editing wikipedias. Shiju On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome report, Bala. I am waiting for the day when kids of first generation Wikipedians start editing too :) ( Analogy: The university, school I attended were many decades old who had many such next generation students from same family ) Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (OT) On the importance of Unicode
This discussion is not at all about input methods. I do not know why a sudden comparison between transliteration vs. InScript came here. Looking at all the solutions you provided, let me ask one thing. Have you really actively contributed/contributing to any Indian language wikipedia. A survey on the input methods used by Indian wikipedians will give a different answer. Shiju On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Nikhil Sheth nikhil...@gmail.com wrote: Great discussion, but I wonder why I didn't see any real, easy, doable, inexpensive, quickfix solution put forth that every Indian on the internet can begin using immediately to get around the Unicode Vs custom Fonts issue. So here's some from me: 1. Quick copy-paste, working with a net connection: http://www.google.com/transliterate/ 2. Put a bookmarklet/favorite in your browser to type in Indian language in any site. इधर भी : http://t13n.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/blet/docs/help.html 3. Get these languages installed in 5 mins on your machine so you can use it in any application from notepad to chat : http://www.google.com/ime/transliteration/ or sneak out the files for offline installation in your hometown using this neat hack: http://visibleblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/google-transliteration-ime-offline.html (I know our greatest angels won't care about this one because it only works on Evil Windows!) 4. Indian made alternative both editor and input language: http://www.baraha.com/ Sincere apologies to the purists who might blow up like a volcano at either going to the Evil Google Lord for help, or Daring to use transliteration instead of the so-easy-to-use-and-learn-if-only-you-spend-a-whole-day-on-it-and-get-an-indic-script-keyboard-from-God-knows-where-because-everyone-is-well-off-and-supposed-to-be-living-in-a-well-connected-metro-like-me. If there is an open-source/cross-platform/creative commons/kumbayaah solution where we don't have to mug up what to do when we forget what we are supposed to have mugged up like the key combination for भ or त्र or ण or ळinstead of just typing bh or tra or na or l and (if needed) backspacing twice to get a dropdown menu to choose what we truly want and moving on with our lives, or where we don't have to bend the laws of physics to get that elusive त्सा or perform computer साल्सा to have that split letter stuff on our screen then let's have it right here and right now or let's get our hands dirty and make'em for the love of the Lord instead of blasting the impure and corrupt Harijans who dare to take shortcuts for the sake of getting their work done on time. (Disclaimer : Only little offense meant with the hope to give a kick and create a demand for real open source solutions that can rival the private ones) Cheers, Nikhil Sheth +91-966-583-1250 Pune, India Teach For India http://www.teachforindia.org/ Fellow, 2011-13 www.nikhilsheth.tk Find me on: Twitter http://twitter.com/nikhiljs | Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/nikjs| LinkedIn http://in.linkedin.com/in/nikhiljs | Google http://www.google.com/profiles/nikhil.js| RangDehttp://www.rangde.org/investor/nikhilsheth Join me on: Pune Documentary Clubhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=138497769525636| Let's Do it Pune http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lets-do-it-Pune/103857326346659| Toastmasters in Punehttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Toastmasters-in-Pune/148767611833746| Wikipedia For Schools projecthttp://education.wikia.com/wiki/Wikipedia_For_Schools_Offline_Edition ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts
Excellent initiative from Tamil wiki community. It is a welcome sign to see that Indic wiki communities have taken the wiki advocacy programs very seriously. Bengali wikimedians are also doing many programs in WB and Bangladesh. We can't expect that every new workshop will bring immediate editors. Accroding to me when we introduce a language wiki to 50 people, if 5 of them start editing in wiki then our program is a grand success. The other 45 will have fundamental knowledge about wiki projects. They will help us in various ways later. Also do not expect immediate result. As Ravi said, the inspiration to edit in wiki can come in various ways. * Besides attracting new editors, it helps build rapport among existing editors. Very much true. These type of programs will give more responsibility and ownership to moderately active editors. Many of them will take initiatives to do innovative things for wiki community. 2010 is a significant growth year for us and the growth rate in terms of daily edits, new editors, active editors has almost doubled in last 6 months. We believe that these workshops and other outreach efforts done before helped us achieve this in some way :) Yes, This is very much true in the case of Malayalam wiki community also. We should have stated these type of programs at least 2 or 3 years before. Hope we will have a much better year in 2011. Shiju Alex On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just a quick update on recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts: In the last 60 days, Tamil Wikipedians conducted 7 workshops / meetups. 1. December 28, 2010 - Mattakkalappu, SriLanka. First organized Wiki meetup in SriLanka where Tamil is an official language and has millions of Tamils. 2. January 15, 2010 - Chennai, India. On the occasion of Ten Wiki. 3. January 16, 2010 - Toronto, Canada. The city has Srilankan Tamil population in lakhs. There were smaller / informal Tamil Wiki intros in this city even before this. Two of the most active Tamil Wikipedians reside in Canada. 4. February 6, 2010 - Chennai, India. 5. February 20, 2010 - Trichy, India. 6. February 20, 2010 - Puduchery, India. First Wiki event in this Union Territory of India. Tamil is an official language here and has Tamil population in Lakhs. 7. February 26, 2010 - Coimbatore, India. (Students only event) The next workshop is planned for March 6, 2010 near Trichy, India. Pictures from these events can be seen at the sidebar links at http://bit.ly/gveSnh Some thoughts: * Malayalam Wikians had such series of workshops all over recently and that was certainly an inspiration for us. And that is the reason we share our experience now for others. * First few workshops happened in 2009. It was hard to arrange and frequency was less. But once we start doing, we learn things, share resources and get more people involved. * We can't expect that every new workshop will bring immediate editors. I have seen people starting editing after they keep hearing about Wiki everywhere and often. So, this can be approached like an ad campaign. No one runs to shop after seeing the ad. But it works later. Infact, we got a very active editor after he listened to the event's audio recording posted. He was in Mumbai and the event happened in Chennai. So it is always good to document the events as much. * Besides attracting new editors, it helps build rapport among existing editors. New editors who attend the event are delighted by the friendship / collaborative spirit by other editors. This gives them a sense of ownership / belonging for the project and start editing more and taking part in organizing future events. One of our most active editor now is an English Wikipedian who participated in a Tamil Wiki workshop. In his own words, after seeing people's happiness to have content in Tamil, he started editing Tamil Wikipedia more. * People want to see faces and hear words directly. They are convinced in person even if we have the same FAQ in Wikipedia website. When we give the demo, they also learn that it is not so easy to edit as they thought. * People who attend these workshops get impressed and invite us to conduct workshop in their colleges / city and they arrange the venue and other resources too. So, even though arranging first few events may be difficult, later more people help. * Participating in bigger events like book fairs, internet fairs, FOSS fairs can only give limited scope to introduce in a very basic way to fast moving crowd. But it is a good opportunity for Wikimedians to network with key people working in other knowledge forums and certainly helps in promoting the Wikipedia brand. More on this later. * 2010 is a significant growth year for us and the growth rate in terms of daily edits, new editors, active editors has almost doubled in last 6 months. We believe that these workshops and other outreach efforts done
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Releasing Wikipedia CD – few concerns
Even though Srikanth had clearly explained most of the things, let me add few things. I am very much aware of Wikipedia CD/DVD project (and other offline releases) across the world and about the different initiatives surrounding it. In fact I was the project coordinator for the Malayalam wikipedia CD. Malayalam wikipedians had done a thorough study about all the Wikipedia CD releases and the Wikipedia for Schools project (and their release of special edition of English wikipedia CD) before they started working on the Wikipedia CD project. Rest of the comments in your blog post are unwarranted for the topic of the blog post (comments like IndiaTV channel story and all). It is really difficult to understand things from Indian perspective. My blog post clearly says: - Indian language wikipedias also require wikipedia for schools or English wikipedia official CD release like efforts. But for that, much effort and cooperation with respective Indic language wikipedians are required. It is not as simple as taking the dump, convert it into ZIM, and create Wikipedia CD/DVD. - The content that we give to school children need to go through thorough review process. - Even the official general release of wikipedia CD/DVD, (that is, the CD/DVD that is not directed towards children) need to have some process. For the best example, look at the wikipedia CD effort by Martin walker and team for English wikipedia CD/DVD (I must say I am forced to write DVD along with CD everywhere [image: :)] ) - The copyright of content and images are most important. We are very bad in respecting the copyrights. - The inclusion of explicit images and content in offline releases (let it be CD/DVD/Book/USB/Blue-ray disk, or any other offline material) will have serious after effects in India. Since you can find it yourself, I am not providing you the links to some of the explicit and copyrighted images (and content also) that contained in Hindi/Marathi/Gujarati wikipedia CD/DVD that you already released. Understanding the things from Indian context is a big thing. I think *Ashwin Baindur* had tried to explain this through 2 emails. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/001960.htmland http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-February/001964.htmlI request all of you who are involved in offline efforts to take those feedback very seriously. Before I close this reply, let me tell one thing. Malayalam wikipedia CD was NOT a Wikipedia CD released for school children. It was a general release. We made all efforts to make it error free and free from copyright issues. Still the CD release ran into controversies (for the inclusion/non-inclusion of certain articles, images, and so on). So we do not want other Indian wiki communities ran into similar issues especially because many of the so called big languages in India (like Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, and all) doesn’t have a big community to take up all these. See the statistics report to understand the current state of different Indic language wikipedias. http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/indian-language-wikipedias-2010-statistical-report/ Tamil community understood the importance of all these. That is why they have adopted certain process to release Tamil wikipedia CD/DVD. Shiju Alex On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Nikhil ( et all), Request to NOT take it personally. Whatever you are doing is a great initiative and really appreciable. But these comments are not to undermine your efforts. Srikanth's reply should completely explain why Shiju was trying to make a point and IMHO, they are valid ones. These best practices are based on previous experiences and not any knee jerk comments ( Sorry, No pun intended). Please note that even this is the practice for http://schools-wikipedia.org/ project for English wiki , supplied to schools of more liberalized countries. The question is neither about the format of this information provided nor about the number of articles. 500 ? 2500? 25000? Ship it on a CD, thumb drive, DVD or even Blueray discs or any other medium ..Any number of articles is accepted, provided we are able to provide them quality content. I can personally vouch that more than half the content on our Wikipedia is crap. Yes I mean it. And but the reason we are all here is to convert them this crap to more useful stuff. Regards Tinu Cherian On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 00:50, Nikhil Sheth nikhil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I had a great time reading the blogpost. Very amusing. But had to clarify some things before we all pick up our pitch-forks and torches, so.. http://nikhilsheth.blogspot.com/2011/03/clarification-about-wfsoe
[Wikimediaindia-l] Odia Wiki workshop in Bangalore
Dear All, As most of you know, Odia (Oriya) is one of the first Indian language wikipedia (created long back in *2002 June*). But till now Odia wiki is inactive due to various reasons. As part of reviving Odia wiki projects, an Odia wiki workshop is planned in Bangalore this week. This is the first ever workshop happening for Odia wiki projects. So we are expecting good participation from Odia community (who are interested in Odia wiki projects) of Bangalore. Here are the details of the workshop. *Date:* : Sunday, *2011-March-06* 3:00 PM ISThttp://or.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ISTaction=editredlink=1 *Venue:* The Centre for Internet and Society http://cis-india.org/ No. 194, 2nd 'C' Cross, 4th Main Domlur 2nd Stage Opposite to Domlur Club Bangalore 560 071 Karnataka Agenda - Introduction and current status of Odia wiki projects - Editing in Odia wikipedia, Odia typing tools, Fonts, and other related topics - Discussion, Moving forward * Participation* Those of you who wish to attend this workshop kindly call on the mobile number +91-*8050515339* or register your name on the wiki page at http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_workshop/Bangalore_1 Kindly spread this news among your Odia friends who are in Bangalore. Rregards Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] List of articles that every Indic Wikipedia should have
Deal All, Many of you who are active in Indic language wikipedias know the importance of the meta list http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_every_Wikipedia_should_have Few Indic wiki communities had used this list extensively to create the most important articles in the respective wikipedas. Now more Indic wikis have started becoming active and I am involved in the community building exercise of some of the current inactive wikis. One of the problem that a new wiki community face is about the priority in the selection of articles that they want to create in the respective wikipedia. When they ask this question, I always point them the above list (by default that is my top priority) and also used to handpick few articles that is relevant to that particular state or language. The issue with the above list is that it is created from an international perspective. For many Indic wikipedias many of the articles listed on that page is of not priority at the early stages of wiki. Recently few new wikipedians asked *whether a similar list is available for India related articles*? According to my knowledge, such a list is not available. Why can't all of us together create such a list (*List of articles that every Indic Wikipedia should have*) so that it would be of great help to small or current inactive Indic wikis. Ashwin Baindur is trying to create an article list for the Indian version of Wikipedia CDhttp://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:_Wikipedia_for_Schools/Indian_versionby selecting India related articles. Since it is a CD we can include more than 10,000 articles (or even more). But for the list I proposed we require a maximum of 500 or 1000 Indian related articles. I think some of the articles from the Indian version of Wikipedia CDhttp://wikimedia.in/wiki/Projects:_Wikipedia_for_Schools/Indian_versioncan be reused for this list also. Requesting your help for this. The selection of the *categories of articles* that need to be included in this list need to be discussed. We can have the list in http://wikimedia.in/site. Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] English Wikipedia Version 0.8 is released
Dear All, Below is the mail from *Martin Walker* (who is part of the Editorial_Team for Wikipedia offlinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team) regarding the new release of English wikipedia offline version (English Wikipedia Version 0.8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_0.8). This release contain 47,300 articles selected from all subject areas. The selection was based on importance and quality. The correct version of each article (to avoid the vandalized revisions) is selected using WikiTrust. Free downloads of Version 0.8 are available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_0.8/downloads Available versions are: raw ZIM files, or versions bundled with Kiwix or Okawix readers. iPhone/iPad and Android versions of the Okawix release are not yet ready. But it will be available soon. Shiju -- Forwarded message -- From: Martin A. Walker walke...@potsdam.edu Date: Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:02 PM Subject: [Offline-l] English Wikipedia Version 0.8 To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline offlin...@lists.wikimedia.org I just wanted to let people know that the English Wikipedia Version 0.8 is now available for download. It contains around 47,300 articles taken from all subject areas in the English Wikipedia, with selection based on importance and quality. It was used to test out automated RevisionID selection, with software based on WikiTrust. Free downloads of Version 0.8 are available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_0.8/downloads Available are: raw ZIM files, or versions bundled with Kiwix or Okawix readers. The Okawix collection recently became available for iPhone/iPad and Android. A BitTorrent release is also under way - please help out with seeding if you can. Apologies for not posting this sooner. Martin Walker (User:Walkerma) For the en:Wikipedia Version 1.0 Editorial Team ___ Offline-l mailing list offlin...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/offline-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Quantity Vs Quality: Hindi Wikipedia story
*Jimmy Wales mentioned how stub articles on the populated places in United States drove the growth of English Wikipedia. **People hailing from these places would google their hometowns and arrive at Wikipedia.* * *This might be true for English or European language wikipedias. But a very example to follow for Indian wiki communities. *A typical scenario.* A normal Indian user search for an article about his home town in internet ( *by typing in his mother language script*), find an article about it *in the respective language wikipedia*, click the edit button, and then enhance it. Highly improbable!!! To reach that stage, normal Indian users need to cross lot of hurdles (awareness, willingness, fonts, rendering issues, typing tools, and so on) . Very rarely, experienced wikipedians in the respective language wikipedia may enhance it. The chances of even that is very less in Indian Wikipedias. Just check this list itself. How many hyper active English language wikipedians (Indians) edited in their respective mother language wikipedia? If this is the case with experienced editors we do not to mention about non-wiki users. From last year's statisticshttp://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/indian-language-wikipedias-2010-statistical-report/we know the community strength of different Indian language wikipedias. I would like to see few *bot created stub article* in any Indian language Wikipedia, later *enhanced by IPs or new users*.* Increasing the article count without building the community will be very bad for any Indian Wikipedia*. If we have a big community to work on the rest of the tasks after the article creation, then there is no harm in creating stub articles using bots in a systematic way. I think Tamil wikipedians had done this. Utkarsh pointed to some others issues also in the blogpost. Situation will change as more people become aware about the language computing tools of the respective language. But at that time if they get a wiki with articles highly disorganized, it is not going to help anyone. Shiju ** On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:09 PM, mayur mayur...@gmail.com wrote: I think that were stub articles, there is nothng wrong in creating stub articles by bot.As per Jimmy wales *There’s nothing wrong with the idea of generating articles on populated places using bots. During one of his recent visits to India, Jimmy Wales mentioned how stub articles on the populated places in United States drove the growth of English Wikipedia. People hailing from these places would google their hometowns and arrive at Wikipedia. They would then start adding the missing details to these articles, becoming active contributors in the process. That why hindi wiki had such kind of stub articles, These article were generated just before utkarsh's analysis.Unfortunately they got some error due to some bot script error. We were already aware of that.Due to some factual errors these articles were deleted instantaneously. In last 4 month hindi wiki has deleted about 20,000 such kind of stub articles per our community discussion.We have also banned creation of very short article through a abuse filter which has not allowed about 2000 article creation for last 3 months.Giving a little information about any article is not bad as it contain information but as these recently created **Village **article got some errors due to error in bot script and incorrect information that's why we deleted such type of articles immediately.Such kind of articles are present in many big wikis.I am happy after deleting 20,000 such kind of article hindi wiki still have 80,000 articles.We want our wiki growth in all dimensions not only in no of articles. Thank you and Regards Mayur Hindi Wikipedian * On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: http://ut7.in/2011/03/quantity-over-quality-the-sad-story-of-hindi-wikipedia/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Sanskrit wikisource is created
Dear All, Few wikimedians who understood the importance of wiki source project is giving proper care to it. From Indic Wikis, I can show you the example of Bengali wikisource. According to me, both the wiktionary and wikisource projects are very important for any language which has online presence. For a language like Sanskrit (which is a classical language),wikisource is very much relevant and important projects. Perhaps it might have more number of source texts (which are in public domain) than most of the Indian languages. A request for Sanskrit wikisource is logged on 2010 October 04http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Sanskrit. The request was approved by the language committee on 2010 November 04, and finally the wiki is created on *2011 March 18* http://sa.wikisource.org/. It is available here: http://sa.wikisource.org Most of the text from Old Wikisource http://wikisource.org is already migrated to this new wikisource http://sa.wikisource.org. A cleanup is required in the wiki. I request Sanskrit wiki community to take of your wiki project. Thanks Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Odia and Odisha
Indian Parliament approves new name for Oriya language and Orissa state. Now onwards the Oriya language will be called as *Odia* and the Orissa state will hereafter be called *Odisha*. More detailed news here: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/parliament-approves-new-name-for-orissa/articleshow/778.cms Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Buzz ...
Would you like to share some information about your latest effort? Naveen, Thanks for sharing this news in India list. As Naveen mentioned below, the license of http://www.ldfkeralam.org/ is changed to a free license that is compatible with the wikipedia license. LDF is the current ruling coalition of Kerala. Now it is election season in Kerala and the above site is setup as part of election campaign. The IT sub-committee of LDF in principle has decided to use free licenses and free software in various places. Many of the people behind http://www.ldfkeralam.org/ have awareness about free software. In fact the site admin is a veteran Malayalam wikipedian. When LDF had decided to start the site, the license of the site was decided as CC-BY-SA 2.5 INhttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/in/deed.en. But unfortunately when the site is released to public, license was pointing to a NC-ND licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/in/deed.en. I pointed this and they immediately corrected it. It was possible only because the people behind the site have awareness about the importance of free software licenses. Later when other district committees of LDF started website they also followed it since the mother site is using free license. There were cases of some district commitees using NC/ND license. But they corrcted it as soon as we pointed the issue in using non-free licenses. *Now there are many LDF sites using free license.* Wiki community could use photos (and the content also) of some of the notable LDF candidates. Since the content and images are free, people could freely use it across web for their blog, buzz, and so on. Few days back I have shared this story with few Indian language wikimedians. I requested some of them to see whether it is possible to replicate this in other Indian states. For instance, how easy or difficult was it to convince government officials? Did it involve going into a lot of details with them? Awareness about free software and free licenses among government officials is very important. If the officials sitting at the other end doesn't have awareness about these things then nothing is possible. In the past, Malayalam wiki community and other Malayalam free software organizations (for example, SMC) have initiated various programs to create that awareness. We are happy to see that slowly that efforts are yielding. In Kerala, this is not the first time State Government or political parties or non government organizations are changing the license of their website to a license that is compatible with Wikipedia license. As mentioned in this mail thread, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2010-November/001260.htmlway back in 2008, Kerala Government had officially announced that it is changing the license of govt. encyclopedic project in Malayalam (sarvavijanakosam) to Free documentation licensehttp://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.htmlso that Malayalam wiki community could reuse its content to develop Malayalam wikipedia. This was done in 2008 December while Jimmy and Sue were in Thiruvananthapuram to attend the free software conference. We expect more happy news in the near future. Shiju On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: This is amazing! Congratulations, Shiju. Would you like to share some information about your latest effort? For instance, how easy or difficult was it to convince government officials? Did it involve going into a lot of details with them? Yours sincerely, Anirudh Bhati 00 91 9328712208 Skype: anirudhsbh On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, It is election season in Kerala. I have one good news to share with you all. Shiju Alex has convinced LDF election web team to change there site license to creative commons license. http://www.ldfkeralam.org/ And now we are having images of candidates in commons and process is in progress. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_the_ldfkeralam.org_website Before this we didn't had images for many ministers in Kerala http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_S_Achuthanandan_Ministry He has also convinced http://www.ldfkannur.org/ web team to change there license. Now they are also creative commons. Thanks a lot Shiju !!! ... Need more site creative commons I think it is change in happening though it is slow. -- Naveen Francis ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] URL Shortener in Tamil Wikipedia + URLs for Indic Wikipedia
Happy to note that more communities started thinking about this issue. I remember raising this issue way back in 2009 or early 2010. But there were not much takers then. Happy to announce that Short URLs are now available in every page of Tamil Wikipedia. Need to do some UI testing. For example, see this articlehttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%99%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%88. We (Malayalam wikimedians) found several use cases like this when we customized pretty url for Malayalam It would be great if this can be supported by Wikimedia itself. That is a good suggestion Srikath. This type of solution is required in all non-latin wikis. In fact it is required even for some Latin wiki articles including English. For example, see this article from German wiki. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%84 I understand Malayalam wikipedia has a redirect mechanism based on the english interwiki title for sometime now. That is a wrong assumption. It is not just copy paste of English URL. If we were doing like that, what will happen to these type of articles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica. It is again out with some ugly characters. Even though Malayalam community was aware about the solution that Srikath provided, there are several reason for not going for it. Santhosh has already pointed out some of the major reasons. So not elaborating it more. But we have solution for the problem Srikanth mentioned right from late 2006. ts just a template, but the problem is one needs to run a bot for all existing articles to add the template with a fancy name.But ml wiki is primarily using english names, transliterated text to form pretty urls. Just as i type, Santhosh replied. More on another reply. In fact redirect pages are very much required for each wiki article. We never know what all keywords people will use to search for wiki articles. All the possible keywords should be made redirects. Think about people who come to wiki only for reading. They have so many obstacles to reach a particular wiki article. if we are able to understand this, we will be able to develop different solutions for them. That is why we developed many solutions including pretty url. [4] http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:Prettyurl -- Its funny, prettyurl template extension url isnt pretty :P The reason is, it contains localized namespace. But you have solution there also: http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl If am going to pretty URL solution (which has its advantages on readable URLs) I would need to run a bot and do a lot of work for 29000+ articles. :) In fact if you are not creating the redirect page *India* for the article இந்தியாhttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%87%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BEin Tamil wiki, then that is very bad from reader's perspective. Yesterday I was introducing Tamil wiki to one of my tamil friend. The first word he typed in search box was *India*. We can't expect people to know typing in Tamil when they come there only for reading. Same case applies to all articles across various Indian language wikis. But create only those redirect pages that make sense. Shiju On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Hi Santhosh, Thanks for the reply. Yes, I know it doesnt help people identify the text. This was chosen for people to conveniently share on twitter. As Subhashish pointed out, people are anyway using bit.ly etc and we are getting into an era where people click URLs based on the comment preceeding it and not on the URL itself(Atleast in twitter). Other reason i opted this is because, its quicker to release. If am going to pretty URL solution (which has its advantages on readable URLs) I would need to run a bot and do a lot of work for 29000+ articles. :) Yes, SEO on a seperate thread please. Am replying :) Regards Srikanth.L http://srik.me On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:31, Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, URL shortners will not improve the search hits. The above solution allows one to share the non latin wiki url using English alphabets and Arabic numerals. Personally I would prefer a URL I can remember and it should help me to identify to where it is pointing without clicking on it. http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mango clearly tells me that it is a Malayalam wiki page about Mango http://tawp.in/r/262 does not give that information to me. But that is just a personal comment. Srikanth mentioned a valid issue related to search engine optimization with Indian wikis. I dont get any result for this query: Malayalam + Mango to take me to Mango article in Malayalam wiki. Because there is no way a search engine can index the word Mango in english to the Malayalam wiki page of Mango. Having Mango in URL does not help search engines. I know some SEO tricks used by Malayalam news portals to
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crossed the 30, 000 articles milestone
Yeah true. Tamil is at Fifth position. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Shiju, I think we are the fifth to cross 30k. Bishnupriya manipuri hasn't reached it yet (it is at at 25k) regareds Bala On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Today Tamil Wikipedia http://ta.wikipedia.org has crossed the 30,000 articlehttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81:Statisticsmilestone. With this it has become the 6th Indic language wikipedia that crosses this milestone (after Newari, Hindi, Telugu, Marathi, and Bishnupriya Manipuri) Congrats for Tamil wiki community on this achievement. Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wiki Results in Google (With a Chrome Extension)
Yuvi, It would be great if you develop a firefox extension also for this. Unfortunately google Chrome's performance is bad with Indic scripts. There are couple of issues with wiki editing also. Due to this many of us prefer firefox over chrome. Shiju On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: I've fixed the UI in the Options, and made a newer release ( https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gpoogepkjnjfmpijnpaocncdjbedaeeo/ ). Feedback? In particular, I've listed 20 Indic languages as buttons on the options page, and I don't have enough knowledge to check if they are all correct! So if someone could check, I'd be grateful :) Suggestions? What should I prioritize next? I'll monitor this thread, or you can file issues (https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/issues). On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Srikanth (too many Srikanths!). Right now, you can use only one language at a time. Would links to multiple language wikis be useful? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Yuvi, Is this for one laguage at a time only, or any language, any time? --Regards, Srikanth R. On 14 April 2011 11:18, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: I'm forwarding this to an acquaintance in Google, with a request to include multilingual results as a link in regular searches. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Great!! What more, this comes on Tamil New year !! Agree with Sundar that Google must push this from server side. Instead of spending huge money on translations etc, these efforts actually help Indic / regional language Wikipedia's Regards Srikanth.L On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:58, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, Yuvi. Let's all use this feature ourselves and hopefully Google will take not of it and promote the other language wiki pages in their search results themselves. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture --- On *Thu, 4/14/11, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wiki Results in Google (With a Chrome Extension) To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 12:31 AM Update: I've now added ability to change language. Just go to 'Options' (from the extensions page) and enter your language code (hi for hindi, etc). Needs a big UX liftup though. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working for a few hours on a Chrome extension to add links to Indic Language Wiki pages when searching in Google. It hooks into Google's search results, and if it finds an enwiki article (to which a tawiki interwiki link also exists), it'll display it side by side. Screenshot here: http://min.us/mbmIeeUOb8y00p#1 You can test the extension by installing it from here: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gpoogepkjnjfmpijnpaocncdjbedaeeo/ It is open source, and the code is available here: https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/. You can file issues here https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/issues/. Known issues: 1. Doesn't work when Google Instant is turned on (turn it off) 2. Doesn't work for some country specific subdomains (which don't have /search url part. Current solution: use google.com :P) 3. Currently hardcoded to display links to tawiki only (Will have to build an options dialog to support other languages) 4. Needs a better logo (Help in this department would be highly appreciated :) ) I think this is one step forward in fixing the search issue - discovering content in Indic Language wikis is now easier. Thanks to Srikanth Lakshmanan for alpha testing. Feedback welcome :) P.S. I'm also working on a Firefox version of this addon. Stay tuned :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttp://mc/compose?to=Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Now, copyright-free maps of States, districts, panchayats
Yeah this is true. There are many such reports recently. Among many wikipedians also there is a common misconception that all the content and images in wikipedia are copyright-free. :) May be we need to start using the word *Copyleft *to address all the free licenses. Usgae of words like Creative commons/GFDL and so on may confuse people who doesn't have much aware about free licenses. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:43 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The Hindu : Now, copyright-free maps of States, districts, panchayats http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article1697940.ece In the last few news reports , the copyright free phrase is repeating. This is worrying. I think we should try to correct the reporters or try to give an explanation about the copyright of wiki project content. All the content in wiki projects are not copyright free, but uses a permissive copyright or copyleft as its is popularly known. I think Wiki Activists also need this sensitizations to communicate licensing well to reporters public. Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : Now, copyright-free maps of States, districts, panchayats
Dear all, I would like to share another important topic related to the subject of this mail. Malayalam wikipedians have started the map projecthttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%A6%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A7%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF/%E0%B4%AD%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%9F%E0%B4%A8%E0%B4%BF%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%A3%E0%B4%82to create free-license maps of entire Kerala. Our aim is to create separate maps for all the 970 grama panchayats of Kerala. These maps will go upto ward level. As some of you already know User:Planemadhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad(Arun Ganesh) has created maps for most of the Indian States. We are extending Arun's work by doing the Panchayath level maps. As of now, almost all the articles about villages of India in English and Malayalam wikipedia (may be other Indic wikipedias also) are lacking maps that go to the Panchayath level. Most of the time we are satisfying ourselves with district level or state level maps. We want the support from other interested indic wikipedians to extend this project for the other Indian states. If few more people can join we can expand this as a Commons project. You can easily be part of this effort if you have working knowledge in Inkscape or similar softwares. Please mail me if you are interested to be part of this project. Shiju On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah this is true. There are many such reports recently. Among many wikipedians also there is a common misconception that all the content and images in wikipedia are copyright-free. :) May be we need to start using the word *Copyleft *to address all the free licenses. Usgae of words like Creative commons/GFDL and so on may confuse people who doesn't have much aware about free licenses. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:43 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The Hindu : Now, copyright-free maps of States, districts, panchayats http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article1697940.ece In the last few news reports , the copyright free phrase is repeating. This is worrying. I think we should try to correct the reporters or try to give an explanation about the copyright of wiki project content. All the content in wiki projects are not copyright free, but uses a permissive copyright or copyleft as its is popularly known. I think Wiki Activists also need this sensitizations to communicate licensing well to reporters public. Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?
Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us feedback also. Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is * e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians have helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software. If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has developed text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back in 2008. Santhosh can provide details about it. Shiju Alex On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind. How about our Wikipedias? Has any attempts been made in the past? Cheers Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] ‘Kanaja’ now accessible for the blind too.. How about wikipedia?
The below online version is a nice way to test it for your language. Remember if Dhwani works fine for Malayalam it is not hard to extend the same for other Indic languages. In fact it is already supporting most of the Indic languages. At least the following languages are supported. - Bengali - Gujarati - Hindi - Kannada - Malayalam - Marathi - Oriya - Punjabi - Tamil - Telugu More important thing is, the respective language community need to take some interest to provide this type of extra features to the speakers of that language. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote: Also, online version of Dhvani is avaialble at http://silpa.org.in/TTS Note that this module is experimental. Thanks On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Anoop anoop@gmail.com wrote: Dhvani can be found here : http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/ On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Shiju, Thank you for the software. While I couldn't find Dhwani, I believe this is the one for eSpeak: http://espeak.sourceforge.net/ Kindly, verify and if possible please provide the links for Dhwani. Thank you, Regardsm Srikanth R. On 26 April 2011 12:19, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Yes for Malayalam wikipedia and its sister projects. We have users from blind schools of Kerala reading Malayalam wikipedia and providing us feedback also. Two softwares are used by them to access Malayalam wikipedia. One is * e-speak* and another is *Dhwani*. Recently few Malayalam wikimedians have helped the e-speak team to make few enhancement in e-speak software. If some of you don't know, Malayalam wikimedian Saanthosh has developed text to speech software for Indic languages (Dhawni) long back in 2008. Santhosh can provide details about it. Shiju Alex On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: http://www.deccanherald.com/content/156361/kanaja-now-accessible-blind-too.html Kannada encyclopaedic website is accessible for blind. How about our Wikipedias? Has any attempts been made in the past? Cheers Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- With Regards, Anoop -- With Regards, Anoop ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding Postage Stamps upload in Commons
I will answer the first question (regarding stamps) Here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgis a Postage stamp of Madhusudan Dashttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AE%E0%AC%A7%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%82%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B8which was tagged for deletion, Can anyone please help me about this? What's the policy for uploading Indian Postage stamps in Wikipedia/Commons? The deletion tag is appeared because you have used Non-free media rationalehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgdiff=prevoldid=53687542. Commons won't permit non-free images. You need to use proper license. Need to cross the license used in similar stamps. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgis a Postage stamp of Madhusudan Dashttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AE%E0%AC%A7%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%82%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B8which was tagged for deletion, Can anyone please help me about this? What's the policy for uploading Indian Postage stamps in Wikipedia/Commons? And recently I have gone through few regional language Wikis where the actual facts are changed. P.S. the English article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayadeva here and the Bengali article here.http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%ACWhen the English article clearly states that at the end of the controversy historians and researchers have come to an inference that Kavi Jayadeva was from Odisha there not a single line which says the same in Bengali Wikipedia. In this situation I would like to ask what would be the credibility of an article from an user's prospectives, is he going to get the right and valid info from a regional Wikipedia? * ସୁଭପାSubhashishPanigrahi ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ___ Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] About photo upload in Commons
5. If some pictures are available by a State Government portal like herehttp://www.orissa.gov.in/e-magazine/Orissareview/febmar2005/englishpdf/tportraitoascbp.pdf is that possible to add them commons? Not possible as of now since the license of the site is not defined. The story is same with all Central/State government websites (except few government department sites of Kerala Government). For us to reuse images from a site, the license of the site should be PD or some copyleft license. Shiju On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Here I am again with few queries about uploading pictures in Commons. Problems: 1. There are many postage stamps available on eminent personalities which are to be there in Wikipedia, but as post 1951 postage stamps are not in PD there is no possible way to keep them in Commons, Any solutions for that? 2. There are many pictures available for eminent leaders, and many of them are photographed before 1951, but the source is not available and so is the date of issue. So, I was wondering if I can draw them by hand, scan and using tool make little correction so that they won't violate the copyright. Please suggest me if you have any better idea. I desperately want to see the profile of the prominent people with their pictures. And how about uploading pictures in Flikr? I have seen many pictures uploaded in Commons have the Flikr link, and they are marked as Copyrighted in Flikr (By the same author, I am confused, if it is in public domain or copyrighted) 3. If I have a newspaper cutting and I am not sure about the publication date how can I find a better way than fair usage? Can I sketch by hand seeing the published picture and upload in Commons instead of uploading in regional Wiki? 4. If an image is uploaded is wrongly marked as Copyrighted even if the site is not the actual source of a picture and the original picture is not available what the picture will be called? PD/Copyrighted? 5. If some pictures are available by a State Government portal like herehttp://www.orissa.gov.in/e-magazine/Orissareview/febmar2005/englishpdf/tportraitoascbp.pdf is that possible to add them commons? * ସୁଭପାSubhashishPanigrahi ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ___ Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikiml-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : 2, 155 images uploaded in record 23 days
According to me these type of issues arise due to the lack of awareness about copyright related topics among press reporters. I assume the reporter made this story based on my blog post published at, http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/malayalam-loves-wikimedia-event-2011-april-report/ In the first paragraph of the blog post I mentioned: Malayalam wikimedians have organised a photo event from *2011 April 02 – 25* *to create more awareness about copyleft-licensed images*, wikimedia commons, and to attract more Malayalam speaking people to the wikimedia movement. But when the reporter made the story it became: *the programme ‘Malayalam Loves Wikimedia’ was organised to create awareness about copyright-free images, Wikimedia Commons and to attract more Malayalam speaking users to the Wikimedia movement.* We couldn't do much here. And for this story, reporters didn't contacted any of us. So it is not wikimedian's fault. Some awareness programs can be planned for press reporters to address this issue. Shiju On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:09 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: The newspaper had not contacted me or possibly any ml Wikipedians directly for this article. There is a general misconception, among general public or media folks, that the images that are free to use are not copyrighted. Aniwar, How do you think we can create a general awareness to all ? -Tinu Cherian On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:50 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: The 2,155 copyright-free images uploaded are on diverse topics. As i mentioned earlier this copyright-free tag coming up with most of the reports on wikipedia is frustrating. We need to have a proper strategy to address it. Most of the images uploaded in Malayalam Loves wikipedia event are not copyright free Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] WikiConference 2011 discussions in Pune meetup on 14 May 2011
Created a page in wikimedia India wiki. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/wiki/Wikimedia_India_Conference_2011 Requesting all to consolidate the important points regarding this on that page. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:22 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Ashwin - Thanks for the update, we very much appreciate having Pune on-board. In an event of this sort it is important nearby communities collaborate, this improves their relations (unity) and the event outlook. Just to confirm - proposed dates are 5,6,7 November (Saturday, Sunday, Bank Holiday Monday). Once again, we (Mumbai Community) request maximum attendance for Saturdays meet-up where this will be the agenda (21 May 2011 at office of Pinstorm, Santacruz) - everyone is requested to attend the meet. Kind Regards, User:AroundTheGlobe -- Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:34:35 +0530 From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; mr-w...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] WikiConference 2011 discussions in Pune meetup on 14 May 2011 Hello friends, On Saturday representatives of Mumbai Wikipedia Community, Amitabh Kundan and Pranav (User:Wheredevelsdare), came over to Pune on 14 My 2011 for discussing the forthcoming Wikiconference India 2011 and met up with representatives of Pune community, Sudhanwa Jogalekar, Radha Mishra, Suhel Bohra, Srikeit, Harshad Gune and Ashwin Baindur. The Wikimedia India chapter was represented by Arjuna Rao Chawala (chapter President), the Wikimedia India National Office by Hisham Mundol. Bishakha Datta, Trustee, Wikimedia Foundation graced the meeting with her presence. The Pune Wikipedia Community acknowledged the great honour done by Mumbai community in asking the Pune community to co-host the event and promised all cooperation. Subsequently in the evening meetup the members of the Pune Wikipedia Community were informed about this prosal and the Pune community unanimously agreed to particpate and support the venture. Pranav gave a presentation on the progress so far - the suggested dates for finalisation i.e. 4 to 6 Nov 2011, the proposed venues for the meetup, the accomodation, a marquee event featuring Jimbo Wales and a social get-together. Also discussed at the meeting were the proposed makeup of organising committee, the modalities, likely budget, and other issues. The Mumbai meetup where they will discuss these issues is being held next weekend. After that we assume the planning will begin in right earnest. Kudos to Mumbai community for all the footwork and hard work put in to date. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimedia-IN-PUN mailing list wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-pun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Community-Chapter Relations
In fact all of us know the effort and pain took by Mumbai/Pune community to make arrangements for the Wikimedia India conference. They have reached out to almost all community members and asked for the support. As per the below mail they have reached chapter also. The response from chapter is also listed below :) Chapter should support the efforts of Mumbai-Pune community; not to discourage/derail the great work done by a community. There are many other points listed by Ashwin in the below mail, all those need to be discussed. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: The national chapter recently informed the community about its Membership and Community engagement plan -June 2011. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-June/003346.html In that document, the regulatory framework for conduct of Wikiconferences was released. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/India_Wiki_Conference_Framework Shortly thereafter, a clarification was issued. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-June/003378.html Members of the community must be puzzled at the need for clarification from the Chapter on the issues of its regulatory framework when there was no discussion online. This is because the recent announcement of the framework, in conjunction with other issues, led to the community believing that the chapter had forsaken it. A little history - the idea for a Wikiconference was mooted way back in March by the Mumbai community and they asked the Pune community to co-host it to which the Pune community agreed. As India now has a national chapter, we naturally asked for their support more than two months ago. For more than two months they were silent. Yesterday, they responded saying that the community was invited to submit their proposal, duly modified as per the said framework, and resubmit it for consideration with other bids. The cavaliar treatment of the serious efforts put in to date by the communities and the contents of the Framework of Regulations were disturbing to the community. At the face off it, one may just consider the Regulatory Framework as just another logical and reasonable document, but its language, text and subtext upset the community, in light of Chapter's attitude. The first and over-riding issue was the type of language used and its indication of the relation between chapter and communities. We all know that the Wikimedia Foundation encourages national chapters so that the community and creation of knowledge by them is facilitated. However, the language herein clearly gives a message - that the Indian chapter is boss and all Indian wikimedian communities are subservient to it. While that is a great inequity in itself, the community was also aggrieved that the framework has been foisted on them without discussion, without any attempt to get them to participate and buy in into the plan, without community consensus and without any consideration of the community's interests. This feudalistic attitude is considered to be an anachronism in volunteer driven communities of the 21st Centuries especially in India. So, no matter whether the framework is good or bad, sensible or not, the approach to the community taken by the chapter is to be firmly objected to and resisted. The Mumbai Pune community supports the chapter, and have defended the chapter on number of occasions in email discussions. Members of the two communities have enthusiastically joined the chapter once membership opened. A member of the Mumbai and a member of the Pune community are the first two members to join by NEFT and physical cheque. To the best of my knowledge 24 members from Pune joined the chapter in response to Arjuna Rao Chavala's appeal for member ships when he came last month to our Pune meetup. We earnestly believe that India needs an active, sympathetic, facilitative and supportive chapter. We look forward to heartily cooperating with such a chapter - alas, the chapter's latest tune was nothing of that kind. It seemed to be indicative of wanting power and to dominate. The third issue, were the black provisions of the framework. Each of the sentences seemed to imply negative connotations for the community. To give you some examples of the black provisions - Example one - Finance The responsibilities of the Host city team included Fund raising, whereas the corresponding responsibility of the Chapter Team was Responsible for facilitating financial operations and accountability for finances for the event. The message conveyed was that the community was responsible for raiising funds but only the chapter was allowed to decide how it was spent. No commitment of raising monetary support was made by the chapter for the event. Example two - Logistics The responsibility for the Host city team is mentioned as being responsible for City logistics in terms of Venue, local
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wiki India Conference
How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ? Not a good idea unless few language communities (at least 6-7) are ready for the selection, proof reading, verifying image licenses, and so on. Selection and creation of offline content is not at all a small task. Much effort is required for it. Also from each language community the support of at least 10 active contributors are required. As of now not many Indic language communities are ready for it. Also the exclusion of selected articles from inactive wikis is not a good idea when we are trying for public outreach. Another possible and easiest option would be releasing a Commons CD/DVD that contains copyleft images related to India. Malayalam wikimedians already done a test release of Commons images along with the Wikisource CD. The release of such a CD/DVD can be done with less effort. Shiju On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there any plan for a DVD of featured articles in all indic languages and articles by WP:IND (english wiki) ? Releasing DVD will help to increase quality of content in the wiki. Shiju/Santhosh, How viable is to release a DVD in 60 days in all languages ? On 12 June 2011 17:35, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Sure! Let's have a small core Fund Raising team that discusses the options for fund raisingand we post updates to all others once we agree on something. Would like to know: 1. Is there a budget already? 2. Will this be fully or partially funded by anyone. 3. Are we raising funds for the Conference expenses or will we be raising funds for the Foundation. I have no views/preferences...just like to know so that when we approach possible sponsors we communicate correctly. The Starting Point should be: For The Conf Organising Committee to outline the schedule/programme and expected scale. I assume it is a 3 day Event Once we have that as a base document all other teams can get to work around that pale blue print. The Fund Raising Team will analyse all the fund raising opportunities around the programme and work from there. Harriet On 6/11/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Harriet, Thanks for the very positive note from you. Looking forward to meeting you sometime. Thanks for the sage advice regarding funding. Looks like you have mentally become an organiser. We invite you to join the Fund-raising committee as it appears to be of keen interest to you. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Outofindia outofin...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in to support the Conference in Mumbai and hold the yet to be developed bidding processes for next year...there's no time to lose...Espcecially since we have dates from Jimmy Wales. Also FUND RAISING for the event should not be restricted to a particular group/city but all incoming funds should be directed to one person who heads the finance committee who has a Conference Accountthat is transparent. Fund raising, promoting the event and passing the word around should be everyone's effort. Warm regards Harriet from Mangalore! -- Harriet Vidyasagar www.outofindia.net www.womenofindia.net INDIA: 91-99011 66276 USA: 1-301-649-2240 ___ Wikimedia-IN-PUN mailing list wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-pun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Naveen Francis ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Hurtigruta - another strange video project from Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation
A station is public property and hence nobody should be able to stop you from photographing it. That is our assumption. Just like that we assume that all Indian/State Government websites are in public domain since ours is a democractic nation. But in reality that is not true. Government is imposing restrictions on various things through copyright law. Refer to the earlier mails/clarifications sent by Gautham. See the below site which lists some restrictions regarding photographing Indian Railway assets. http://www.irfca.org/~shankie/irphotography/irphotography.htm From there: THE OFFICIAL VERSION: India, it would appear, suffers from a persecution complex. Several places are considered restricted in India. These include bridges, railroad yards, railway premises, sheds, workshops, stations and tunnels. These are supposed to be of military importance. Officials are very skittish about the whole thing, and many of them tend to go overboard in trying to enforce these restrictions. Its against the law to take a photograph of a train at the station, yet, you can walk a few metres away, just outside the station limits, and shoot freely from there. Or from the overbridge just before the station. Or from the lineside in open country. Which is why we railfans call these 'idiot restrictions'. But thats another story. Hence officially, if you are planning on doing some really serious and extensive railroad photography in India, it is absolutely essential for you to apply for and acquire a permit. You will need to write to: The Joint Director of Public Relations, Railway Board, Rail Bhavan, New Delhi-110001, India. As far as I know, most of the railway related restrictions are imposed by Indian railways, not by Central Government. But I couldn't find an official document related to this. Now Railway police/authorities are trying to impose this official/unofficial policy/law through various means. Shiju On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Shiju, what problem can railways have? A station is public property and hence nobody should be able to stop you from photographing it. It isn't covered under the Official Secrets Act, is it? Besides, if there was a problem, then a HUGE bunch of photographs from the Commons shouldn't exist. If it were illegal, how come so many films are shot in stations and trains? If anybody wants, I can get a sample clip of a road, which can be applied to rail as well. --Regards, On 17 June 2011 17:48, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: hi, I think since what we want to do is videotape a railway route, the driver's bogey is more suited to this. I would want to film during day time only under good visibility conditions, where possible. I think we could give the CC-BY-SA license to the Indian Railways. I do not think there'll be too many people to worry about unlike Google Street View. Another interesting project could be trying to film rivers from source to where it meets the sea. It'll also be a way to map a few things. Great points! Never thought this could be such an interesting discussion. Flipcams are great too! Pradeep On 17/06/2011, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I understand. But the question is that of access to the driver/guard bogey. We can either be there or not be there at all. Another issue is that we can use the video during daytime only. It's an interesting logistical exercise along with having a free video tape of all of that length of railway line. Quite apart from the permission of the Railway authorities, please be aware that we, all of us, have a responsibility not to inadvertently record anyone without their express permission. This may not be expressed explicitly in legal terms in India, hence may not cross the line being drawn by the Creative Commons partners, but is nevertheless an important distinction to be recognised whilst undertaking anything as incredibly scaled up as this. It could be done, in practical terms, by editing all the footage and blurring all faces, mostly automatically. For those who think perhaps this is a sort of googly, please do some reading on Google Street View, and the judgments of the European Court, aside from individual countries such as UK and Germany, just for perspective. I am totally in favour of this project being done, by the way. If enough people can be found across the country who have time and access to Flips, I doubt it would be very difficult to carry out, provided the Railways is willing (and it is not illegal) to allow people in the Guard Bogies. I have seen Flip night recordings, by the way, and do not think this is a major impediment either. With care (for individuals/faces), I think it might even be possible to do on
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Hurtigruta - another strange video project from Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation
Commons deal these issues in a different way I guess. Let active Commons users comment on this. Fortunately foreign nationals have permission to capture images. :) See page 13 of the below official document. Especially clause 1.3. :) http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/uploads/directorate/prd/PR/PR-MANUAL.pdf Shiju On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Shiju, Does that make any of these two of my photographs on the commons illegal? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BETL-BMIC-Hosur-_Road-Junction.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Garden-City-Skyway-Bridge-KRPuram.jpg Also, does the government differentiate between Photography and Videography? --Regards, Srikanth. On 17 June 2011 21:12, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: A station is public property and hence nobody should be able to stop you from photographing it. That is our assumption. Just like that we assume that all Indian/State Government websites are in public domain since ours is a democractic nation. But in reality that is not true. Government is imposing restrictions on various things through copyright law. Refer to the earlier mails/clarifications sent by Gautham. See the below site which lists some restrictions regarding photographing Indian Railway assets. http://www.irfca.org/~shankie/irphotography/irphotography.htm From there: THE OFFICIAL VERSION: India, it would appear, suffers from a persecution complex. Several places are considered restricted in India. These include bridges, railroad yards, railway premises, sheds, workshops, stations and tunnels. These are supposed to be of military importance. Officials are very skittish about the whole thing, and many of them tend to go overboard in trying to enforce these restrictions. Its against the law to take a photograph of a train at the station, yet, you can walk a few metres away, just outside the station limits, and shoot freely from there. Or from the overbridge just before the station. Or from the lineside in open country. Which is why we railfans call these 'idiot restrictions'. But thats another story. Hence officially, if you are planning on doing some really serious and extensive railroad photography in India, it is absolutely essential for you to apply for and acquire a permit. You will need to write to: The Joint Director of Public Relations, Railway Board, Rail Bhavan, New Delhi-110001, India. As far as I know, most of the railway related restrictions are imposed by Indian railways, not by Central Government. But I couldn't find an official document related to this. Now Railway police/authorities are trying to impose this official/unofficial policy/law through various means. Shiju On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Shiju, what problem can railways have? A station is public property and hence nobody should be able to stop you from photographing it. It isn't covered under the Official Secrets Act, is it? Besides, if there was a problem, then a HUGE bunch of photographs from the Commons shouldn't exist. If it were illegal, how come so many films are shot in stations and trains? If anybody wants, I can get a sample clip of a road, which can be applied to rail as well. --Regards, On 17 June 2011 17:48, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.comwrote: hi, I think since what we want to do is videotape a railway route, the driver's bogey is more suited to this. I would want to film during day time only under good visibility conditions, where possible. I think we could give the CC-BY-SA license to the Indian Railways. I do not think there'll be too many people to worry about unlike Google Street View. Another interesting project could be trying to film rivers from source to where it meets the sea. It'll also be a way to map a few things. Great points! Never thought this could be such an interesting discussion. Flipcams are great too! Pradeep On 17/06/2011, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I understand. But the question is that of access to the driver/guard bogey. We can either be there or not be there at all. Another issue is that we can use the video during daytime only. It's an interesting logistical exercise along with having a free video tape of all of that length of railway line. Quite apart from the permission of the Railway authorities, please be aware that we, all of us, have a responsibility not to inadvertently record anyone without their express permission. This may not be expressed explicitly in legal terms in India, hence may not cross the line being drawn by the Creative Commons partners, but is nevertheless an important distinction to be recognised whilst undertaking anything as incredibly scaled
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Administrative maps of India and states.
For SVG translation, use this tool: http://toolserver.org/~jarry/svgtranslate/ My suggestion would be, let the respective language community do the translation. Transliteration may not work work all the time. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have done a plain google transliteration for India and Kerala maps to hi,kn,sa which is created by Rajesh Odayanchal( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rajeshodayanchal) using a tool http://svg-edit.googlecode.com/svn/branches/2.5.1/editor/svg-editor.html This maps were created as a part of Malayalam mapping project. If it needs some correction; can you please help ? Thanks, Naveen Francis On 15 June 2011 16:30, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 15 June 2011 03:38, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: In this light, the copyright disclaimer on the Census webpage seems completely invalid. Vickram - good catch but even the lack of a copyright notice does not, per se, mean there is no copyright. Copyright is presumed to be granted the moment it has been created. Of course, and I am completely in agreement with the sentiments of the commons group, who evidently do not want to see Wikipedia get caught up in a series of fruitless litigations across the world. I was drawing the attention of the list to the fact that the government people, who claim copyright for everything the government publishes, despite the fact that some of it is commons, are also ether slipshod in the manner in which they claim the copyright, or being forthright about the fact that some of it, possibly the data itself, is not intended to be copyrighted. Now, the disclaimer wording brought to our attention by Abhilash also mentions that not everything in the site is copyright, one must look at individual listings within in order to see if copyright is claimed therein. Naveen would do well to check that the information he wants to scrape in order to create his maps is specifically copyrighted, as otherwise it is clearly free-to-use, and the copyright disclaimer is very specific about this freedom. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Naveen Francis ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Announcement: Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD released
Dear All, We completed one week of Malayalam Wikisource offline releasehttp://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/creating-malayalam-wikisource-cd/. Here is some statistics that we have: (Thanks to Jyothis for compiling this) Hits to the ISO image : *46,922* (this is just number of hits. This does not mean that all 46,922 hits lead to complete/successful downloads. We assume at least 70-80% of those hits would be complete downloads. - 3,15,274 hits for mlwiki.in- the site hosting iso image and online version of Offline(Yes! :) ) on *June 12.* - 4,30,959 on *June 13*th - 2,30,985 on *June **14*th - 1,04,280 on *June **15*th Yesterday we have started a torrent link also for the ISO image ( http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957). So downloads are happening in that way also now. Here are the links by which you can access Malayalam wikisource offline release. - iso Image http://www.mlwiki.in/cdimage/mlwikisource.iso - Torrent link http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6477957 - Online browsing http://www.mlwiki.in/wikisrccd/index.html Remember, last year the download count of Malayalam wikipedia offline version 1.0 one week after the release was around 5000. We found that the interest in Malayalam Wikisource offline is more than that of Malayalam Wikipedia offline. Shiju Alex On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Jyothis E jyothi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear fellow Wikimedians, With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD project Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0 at the 4th annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala. --cut-- Congratulations! I am happy at the level of engagement in Malayalam community, which contributes to these kind of firsts in off-line access year after year. Best wishes Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Google's Indic Wikipedia translation project closing down
In fact it affected the community growth also. Allowing this type paid editing is one of the bad things happened in Indic wikis recently. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 21 June 2011 23:46, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: So they thought they had enough training for the machines with Wikipedia translation feeding a good chunk of data to the machine in these 5 languages. No wonder they say five new experimental alpha languages! Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] About description of of Wikipedia
I do not think any one can get copyright for the common words of a language. But not sure. Gautham, your help required. :) On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in that case Khola is more approprite than Magana (Used in the context of *Buy 1 Get 1 Free!)* * * *But, my question is about the copyright! * * * *Gyanamandala * is a generic Odia Word like Sambada, Samaja, Pavithra, etc. Can it be used or not thought there is a book in the name *Gyanamandala?* On 22 June 2011 21:33, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:25, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are amid of an ongoing description of changing the current description of Odia Wikipedia. The present description is as below- ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ (Odia Wikipedia) ଗୋଟିଏ ଖୋଲା ଭାଷାକୋଷ (Eka khola bhasakosa meaning An Open Encyclopedia) Before we would go to encyclopedia, I would like to correct about Open. It must be free encyclopedia[Free is a word play in English, meaning both free in beer and speach] but free as in freedom must be used instead of open. Regards Srikanth.L http://srik.me ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- * ସୁଭପାSubhashishPanigrahi ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ___ Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] About description of of Wikipedia
Gyanamandala is an IPR of Binod Kanungo Gyanamandala foundation. Is this is possible? Can some one take patent/trademark for some words of a language? Here is my take on this name issue : The name of our encyclopedia is *Wikipedia*. It is wikipedia in all languages. In odia it is ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ. Hope there is no issue regarding that in Odia wiki community. Now the Odia community is having differences regarding the translation of the word *Encyclopedia* that is used in the phrase The Free Encyclopedia. Let us see how this word is translated in other Indian languages: - Hindi - ज्ञानकोष - *Gnanakosh* - Marathi - ज्ञानकोश - *Gnanakos* - Gujarati - વિશ્વજ્ઞાનકોષ - *Vijanakosh * - Bengali - বিশ্বকোষ - (Jayantha/Tanvir please transliterate, I guess it is *Vijnjanakosh)* - Kannada - ವಿಶ್ವಕೋಶ - *Vishwakosa* - Telugu - విజ్ఞాన సర్వస్వము - *Vijnjaana sarvasvamu * - Tamil - கலைக்களஞ்சியம் - *KalaikkaLanchiyam* - Malayalam - സർവ്വവിജ്ഞാനകോശം - *Sarvavijanakosam* (as usual Tamil is different :) ) In general, across all Indian languages the words *Viswakosh*/*Gnjakosh*/* Vijanakosh* are used to represnt the word Encyclopedia. But there will be one word which might be used more frequently than other words. For example, in Malayalam the word Gnanakosam and Viswakosam are hardly used to denote encyclopedia. We use Vijanakosam. Like this each language has some preference over the words. After all this diversity is the beauty of Indian languages. So my suggestion is, use the same word that is used more frequency by Odia speaking people. But my appeal On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a reply from one user regarding this. Sambidhan:As I said earlier Gyanamandala is an IPR of Binod Kanungo Gyanamandala foundation. IPR includes trademark, copyright design patent. Gyanamandala is a registered trademark of the foundation, even the government of orissa refrains from using gyanamandal to describe an encyclopedia. Secondly what is also important is on which context are you using the word if you are using the word for a similar product then there are chances that 2nd party can be sued. Thirdly as far as I know it is always best to stay away from controversy. Things like this will drag the whole wikipedia foundation into a controversy which is best avoided and which the foundation tries to avoid as well. Especially when there are better alternate available. Fourthly the generic word for describing an encyclopedia in odia is gyanakosha or biswakosha. Finally majority of the people as you can see have accepted gyanakosha as the word for describing encyclopedia and wikipedia is a democratic organisation which goes by what the majority of the mass wants. And I asked how could I refer our discussion in WP. On 22 June 2011 21:59, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: Meaning? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 22 June 2011 21:58, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: And how could I redirect this to the consensus page saying that this word Gyanamandala could be used to describe the phrase? On 22 June 2011 21:56, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: You should be just fine, IMHO. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ On 22 June 2011 21:54, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Gautam, Gyanamandala is a GENERIC NAME, and there is a book in the same name and the word Gyanamandala means Gyana (Knowledge)+ Mandala (Combination/Base), used in places like Nakhyatra Mandala / Tara Mandala (set of stars in the sky). So, please let me know if the use of this word to describe this phrase An open Encyclopedia is fine? On 22 June 2011 21:49, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: If I understand correctly, there is a book called Gyanamandala and you want to use this same name for Wikipedia in Oriya? Is this word defined in the dictionary? That asked, I highly doubt copyright protection exists for a word - trademark perhaps but not copyright. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://social.prathambooks.org/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ସୁଭପାSubhashishPanigrahi ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ___ Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Updating the logo of Indian Language Wikipedias
Logo of Hindi wikipedia (http://hi.wikipedia.org) is also updated. Shiju Alex On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Indic language wikipedians, The logos of some of the Indic language wikipedias are updated recently. Following are those wikipedias: - Marathi - http://mr.wikipedia.org/ - Kannada - http://sa.wikipedia.org/ - Sanskrit - http://kn.wikipedia.org/ - Odia (Oriya) - http://or.wikipedia.org/ Among this, the Odia wikipedia logo is updated yesterday and is done by a new wikipedian. Thanks to Subhashish who started editing in Odia wikipedia recently. He had done a wonderful job. The logos for the following language wikipedias still need to be updated. - Assamese - http://as.wikipedia.org - Bhojpuri - http://bh.wikipedia.org - Bishnupriya Manipuri - http://bpy.wikipedia.org/ - Divehi - http://dv.wikipedia.org - Gujarati - http://gu.wikipedia.org - Hindi - http://hi.wikipedia.org - Kashmiri - http://ks.wikipedia.org/ - Nepali - http://ne.wikipedia.org - Pali - http://pi.wikipedia.org - Punjabi - http://pa.wikipedia.org - Sindhi - http://sd.wikipedia.org - Tamil - http://ta.wikipedia.org Hope the logos will be updated soon by the respective language community. Kindly create a new logo, upload it to commons, and log a bug in bugzilla. In case you require any assistance please contact me. Shiju Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Updating the logo of Indian Language Wikipedias To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Dear Indic language wikipedians, As many of you know the default skin of wikipedias (including that of all Indic language wikipedias) is moved to the new Vector skin some time back. Please see the below mail that I sent to this list regrading this on *2010 July 1*. As some of you know, along with this update, the logo of wikipedia is also updated. The current logo is available herehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0. But even though almost 6 months had passed after this major update, only Bengali http://bn.wikipedia.org, Malayalam http://ml.wikipedia.org, Urdu http://ur.wikipedia.org, and Telugu http://te.wikipedia.org wiki communities had took initiatives to update the logo. The logo update is still pending for the following Indian language wikis. - Assamese - http://as.wikipedia.org - Bhojpuri - http://bh.wikipedia.org - Bishnupriya Manipuri - http://bpy.wikipedia.org/ - Divehi - http://dv.wikipedia.org - Gujarati - http://gu.wikipedia.org - Hindi - http://hi.wikipedia.org - Kannada - http://kn.wikipedia.org/ - Kashmiri - http://ks.wikipedia.org/ - Marathi - http://mr.wikipedia.org - Nepali - http://ne.wikipedia.org - Oriya - http://or.wikipedia.org - Pali - http://pi.wikipedia.org - Punjabi - http://pa.wikipedia.org - Sanskrit - http://sa.wikipedia.org - Sindhi - http://sd.wikipedia.org - Tamil - http://ta.wikipedia.org Carry Bass (User:Bastiquehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bastique) has took initiative to create the new logo for some of the Indian language wikis. But for languages like Kannada, Oriya, and so on even that is pending. Even if the new logo is created a bug needs to be filed by the respective wiki community to change the logo. So for most of the Indian wikis both these tasks are pending now. I request the respective language communities to take initiatives to create the new logo and file a bug for this update. The guidelines for creating the new logo is listed at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation Please write to me if any of the language communities require any type of support regarding this. Regards Shiju Alex -- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 06:43:08 +0200 From: shijualexonl...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Updating the default skin of Indian Language Wikipedias Hi All, As some of you already know, *Usability Teamhttp://usability.wikimedia.org * is driving the task of updating the default skin of all WikiMedia Foundation wikis to a skin called *Vector*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vector. English Wikipedia and some other big wikis have already moved to *Vector skin* some time back. Apart from the UI, the logo of Wikipedia is also updated http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/wikipedia-in-3d/. Yesterday (2010 June 30) at 10:30 PM IST, some other wikis (that have carried out the formalities required for the UI change) are also moved to the new UI. Among this, 3 Indian Language Wikipedias are also there. Following are those Indian Language wikipedias: - Malayalam - http
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikiml-l] Kerala Govt - Encyclopedia - ‘Kerala Vijnanakosam’
Sarvavijnanakosam is NOT a new project. Sarvavijnanakosam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarvavijnanakosamis the encyclopedia project of *Kerala State Institute of Institute of Encyclopaedic Publications*http://www.sarva.gov.inand it is published from late 1970's. The license of this encyclopedia is changed to a free license in 2008 and Malayalam Wikipedia reuses content from this expert written encyclopedia. Kerala Vijanakosam is a new project of *Kerala State Institute of Institute of Encyclopaedic Publications* http://www.sarva.gov.in/ and its aim is to provide encyopedic information about all the topics related to Kerala. We can term it as a sub set of Sarvavijanakosam. It is good to have such projects since at a later stage when the license is made free we can reuse the content.:) The web edition of this project is not in wiki format. We are yet to see how content evolves for this new project. Any way it is nice to have such projects from various organizations, since all of them will finally get integrated to malayalam Wiki projects :) On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:24 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: After Kanaja from Karnataka , Here comes the new Kerala Government attempting to make its own online encyclopedia. http://keralaitnews.com/e-governance/110-e-governance-/2755-kerala-vijnanakosam-and-sarvavijnanakosam-logs-onto-cyber-space I heard that this project is budgeted for 1 crore Indian Rupees. Wonder if these project people know about Malayalam Wikipedia and it is also powered by Unicode. Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Please change it - Indian Maps on Wikipedia
since its still just another English Wikipedia POV dispute and thats Even though the topic of this mail is not limited to enwiki, the above statement is true. But unlike other Indian language wikiproject wikipedians, English wikipedians from India still doesn't have a common forum (apart from the wiki project India page in en wiki which is not used by many users) to discuss various topics related to them. I feel it is a good idea to start another mailing list exclusively for discussing topics related to en wikipedians from India. It will help to bring togther all people from India who are interested in en wiki projects. Shiju On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 14:10, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: My only intention was to ask the community on how to handle such mails or request. -TC Point such people to appropriate places like discussion pages , notice board (oops, it cant handle more NOW,but yes ideally). IMO bringing content disputes to mailing list, chapter is slightly Off Topic ish / doesnt serve purpose, simply because they are not governing any content. Its totally different thing if a Wikipedian asks for opinion / comes out of a media post, even then list isnt the ideal place,it only calls for more trolling since people arent obliged to stick to values which when broken can get a block on wiki.[Refer Socio Cultural relevance of Sanskrit Wikipedia blah blah some months back]. [[On a seperate note, we havent framed a block policy for the list, but I presume day is not far when we may be in need of it]] The audience of the list is so spread over that it might be spammy even to discuss a largely relevant issue like this, since its still just another English Wikipedia POV dispute and thats it where as list is for Discussion of Wikimedia Projects in India. My 2 paisa. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation
Dear All, The Call for Participation for WikiConference India 2011 is open now. Details are available here: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation * Few guidelines that you need to keep in mind before submitting the proposal are available on this page. The guidelines are only meant as a pointer to help speakers and is not expected to be exhaustive. You can submit talks within all aspects of Wikimedia even if the topic is not specifically included on that page. ''' Be Bold.''' Few wikimedians had provided their wish list regarding WikiConference India 2011 here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/Programs You can use that also as reference while submitting the proposal. *Important: *Please forward this mail to all the relevant mailing lists, in case I missed any list. Regards Shiju Alex For WikiConference India 2011, Program Commitee ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcome to the India Team! : Shiju Nitika
Dear All Thank you very much for welcoming me to the new role. First of all I am extremely sorry for responding to this mail very late. For the past few days I was traveling and my access to internet was intermittent. I'm really excited with this new assignment. As you all know over the past few years Indic wiki communities had done (either individually or through collaboration with multiple wiki communities) many great things. I was lucky enough to be part of some of these assignments. Due to the efforts of various Indic wiki community members, most of the big language wikis are active now. With more than 40 Indic language wikis I know the task is not going to be easy. But I am sure with the support from the respective language speakers we can together do many great things. I look forward to work closely with all of you and requesting your support for the same. Warm Regards, Shiju Alex On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote: Congrats Shiju and Nitika! I look forward to a good acceleration of wiki growth in India with your participation. Regards, Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture -- *From:* Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcome to the India Team! : Shiju Nitika This is great news. A warm welcome and best wishes to Shiju and Nitika in their new roles. Regards Arun On Jul 29, 2011 1:42 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to Shiju and Nitika. It has been great working along with Shiju, closely for years now and I don't have to tell that how much he deserves this. I wondered how he gets time to really work with ABB with all his wiki activities ;) and I am sure that this position would help him concentrate on one thing he is really passionate about. Welcome on-board, Nitika ! Looking forward to work with you too. Best wishes again to both Shiju and Nitika ! Regards Tinu Cherian On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Hisham Mundol hmun...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Folks, I'm really pleased to send out this email welcoming the first 2 new members of the India Programs team. Just before I introduce them, I thought I'd share with you the background of their selection. *Context* As you might be aware, the Foundation had decided to undertake a catalyst operation in India to promote the growth of the community and projects here. The team is expected to be a small, nimble 5 person group. We had put out 2 job postings - for Indic Initiatives and for Participation. (Please refer: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-May/003007.html ) We posted them on linkedin and on the Indian FOSS community list as well as announcing them on various Facebook pages and Twitter feeds. The response was wonderful. 110 applications for Indic Initiatives and nearly 175 applications for Participation. These were short-listed to 10 (3 for Indic Language and 7 for Participation.) These were a mix of existing previous Wikipedians, Wikipedia newbies and open source advocates. In June, the shortlisted 10 were interviewed and further down-selected to 4. These 4 were then further interviewed by a group of other staff members from the Foundation. I am pleased to inform the community of the final selected 2. *Shiju Alex - Indic Initiatives* Most of you already know Shiju. For those who don't, Shiju is a long-time Wikipedian [User: shijualex] and is active on Malayalam Wikipedia, English wikiprojects and Wikimedia Commons, as well as Wikisource and offline. He has been passionately involved with the establishing and building of Indic language Wikipedias. He's participated in a series of outreach activities and is also (jointly) undertaking a grant from the Foundation for outreach across India. He's a regular member of the Bangalore community. Shiju is from Palakkad, Kerala and is married with a 2 year old baby. He currently works as a Senior Technical Writer with ABB in Bangalore. Even those of you who know him might not know the following 2 things that I was lucky to discover during the selection process. Shiju is an MSc in Physics with a specialisation in Astronomy and Astrophysics - and he retains a deep interest in anything astronomical. Feel free to quiz him vigorously on this! He also enjoys trekking and misses his time in Pune where he could be up close the gorgeous Sahyadri Hills. Shiju is going to lead our work on promoting Indic language projects across India. The challenges are enormous - from technical constraints to low
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation
Yes, that is a good suggestion. I am fine with renaming the page. I kept the name *Call for Particpation* following the footsteps of wikimania :) Shiju On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: Looks like Call for Participation in the title is misleading to many. It is supposed to be call for papers (for speakers) and not call for attendees registration. Most of us know this properly, but considering lot of students will be checking it out, it is possible to mislead them as mentioned in the other mail by the student. Looks like we have to give some more clarity on the web page. Regards -Sudhanwa On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:26 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Pranjali, The registration for the conference is yet to begin, there will be an announcement on the same shortly. We appreciate your patience in this matter. If you wish to help in any way please email details on how you can help to pradeep.mohandas (at) live.com. Kind Regards, Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:31:40 +0530 From: pgsa...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation hello sir, i am a bit confuse about it ... i am a SYBSc IT student from mumbai i want to attened this conference will you please guide me any in which way i can help this cause? -pranjali sanap On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Please submit your proposals here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation Kindly ensure that your proposal is on a topic related to Wikimedia. We have received quite a few proposals which are off-topic. But we are expecting lot of submissions from experienced wikimedians soon. Please note that the last date of submission is August 30. Shiju On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, The Call for Participation for WikiConference India 2011 is open now. Details are available here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation Few guidelines that you need to keep in mind before submitting the proposal are available on this page. The guidelines are only meant as a pointer to help speakers and is not expected to be exhaustive. You can submit talks within all aspects of Wikimedia even if the topic is not specifically included on that page. ''' Be Bold.''' Few wikimedians had provided their wish list regarding WikiConference India 2011 here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/ProgramsYou can use that also as reference while submitting the proposal. Important: Please forward this mail to all the relevant mailing lists, in case I missed any list. Regards Shiju Alex For WikiConference India 2011, Program Commitee ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Visually challenged people and Indic language wikipedias - Video
Dear Wikimedians I would like share an unusual story (unusual - especially for Indic language wiki communities) that Malayalam wiki community had faced few months back. In the month of February 2011, I had received an SOS call from a school teacher (Satyasheelan) who is teaching at the Government School for the Blind in the Kasargod districhttp://www.webelmediatronics.in/brlads/directory_Kerala.htmt of Kerala. Satyasheelan was seeking Malayalam wikipedian's support to fix few issues that he and his students faced with few Malayalam alphabets when they read Malayalam wikipedia using a speech synthesizing software called eSpeak http://espeak.sourceforge.net/. His phone call was surprise to us since Malayalam wikimedians were not aware that visually challenged people are using Malayalam wikipedia. (We were aware about the existence of a software by Santhosh (named Dhawni http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/) to read unicode Malayalam (and other Indic languages also) which is in its early stages of development). So Satyasheelan's call was surprising. After his phone call few Malayalam wikipedians (Junaid, Thachan Makan, and I) contacted Jonathan Duddington http://sourceforge.net/users/jonsd, the primary developer (?) of eSpeak, and we worked with him to fix the issues for Malayalam that Satyasheelan had pointed out. Jonathan fixed the issues pretty fast and later Satyasheelan informed us that now they are able to use Malayalam wikipedia without any issues. Later while we were planning for the 4th Malayalam wiki meetuphttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF_%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%82%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%82/4(2011 July 11) at Kannur, we decided to invite Satyasheelan to conduct a session, since Malayalam wikimedians liked to hear the experience of students of Blind school (using Malayalam wikipedia). But when Satyasheelan came for the meetup we were surprised and taken aback when we learnt that Satyasheelan is also a visually challenged person. Few of the his colleagues (who are also visually challenged) also attended the meetup. Satyasheelan was accompanied by his son, Nalin. The meetup was attended by more than 80 Malayalam wikipedians. Few photos are available herehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Malayalam_Wikimeetup_4_-_Kannur_11Jun2011. We are happy that Bishaka, Hisham, and Tory were kind enough to join us for this meetup. There were various programs conducted as part of this meetup (the report of the meetup is available at various locations (in Malayalam)). Definitely the highlight of the meetup was the demonstration by Satyasheelaman. So this mail is about that. Malayalam wikimedian Ajay Kuyiloor took extra efforts to record Satyasheelan's session. We are sharing an edited version of this session assuming that this information will help other Indic language wiki communities. The video of Satyasheelan's session is available here: * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1T3HeBTvU* The duration of the video is around 9 minutes. We specially thank Ajay Kuyiloor, Girish Mohan, and Jithin who worked on this video. We admit the low quality of video since we were not prepared for such a session. Inconvenience due to this is deeply regretted. Malayalam community is welcoming your comments regarding this story so that the discussion regarding this will benefit rest of the Indic wiki communities also. We are actually humbled by the fact that work we do in wikipedia is reaching out to people from all wakes of life. *NOTE:* Satyasheelan specially thanked Malayalam wikimedians for creating a special navigational templatehttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%85%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B7%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%9A%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95_%28%E0%B4%B8%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82%29for reaching out easily to wikipedia articles. I still remember in 2008 when Malayalam wikipedia user:Sadhik Khalid http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%89%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%8D:Sadik_Khalidcreated this template, some of us had doubted the need of such a template. Our doubt was, why such a template is required when users can reach out to articles easily using serach box. Now to our surprise we understood this template is very much useful for the visually challenged people (whom we never thought about before). Video of Satyasheelan's session is available here:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1T3HeBTvU* Thanks Shiju Alex ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource
Can't we use the existing Wikisources (available in different languages including English) for the same? Or, Gautham, are you proposing something else? Shiju On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: So here's a question - given that there is much content that is out of copyright in India but not necessarily in other parts of the world, is there any sense in looking to create an Indian Wikisource for content that is out of copyright here? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource
Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in this? Something that the Chapter might consider? So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects, including commons and meta, have India related content. I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US now? On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Shiju and Sreejith: Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin and also in US. If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India. Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in this? Something that the Chapter might consider? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource
Specifically a WikiSource server of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of copyright in India only. As far as I know, *the content that is that is out of copyright in India now* can be uploaded to the existing wikisources. Can you cite some examples for which this is not possible? On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 26 August 2011 12:52, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects, including commons and meta, have India related content. I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US now? Not for India related content, Shiju. Specifically a WikiSource server of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of copyright in India only. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource
The best example is Gandhi Many of his works, and translations of them, are not public domain in the United States. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Mohandas_K._Gandhi In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language wikisources, few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English wikisource are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue? I think this issue is applicable to more countries, not only India. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically a WikiSource server of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of copyright in India only. As far as I know, the content that is that is out of copyright in India now can be uploaded to the existing wikisources. Can you cite some examples for which this is not possible? The best example is Gandhi Many of his works, and translations of them, are not public domain in the United States. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Mohandas_K._Gandhi -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource
By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of the country. This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the list, and may be some other projects also. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 26 August 2011 14:21, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language wikisources, few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English wikisource are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue? I think this issue is applicable to more countries, not only India. By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of the country. - Gautam ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation
Dear All, We have only 4 more days for the Program submission. Last date is August 30. Please submit your program proposals before the due date at * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation * Shiju Alex On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, The Call for Participation for WikiConference India 2011 is open now. Details are available here: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation * Few guidelines that you need to keep in mind before submitting the proposal are available on this page. The guidelines are only meant as a pointer to help speakers and is not expected to be exhaustive. You can submit talks within all aspects of Wikimedia even if the topic is not specifically included on that page. ''' Be Bold.''' Few wikimedians had provided their wish list regarding WikiConference India 2011 here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/Programs You can use that also as reference while submitting the proposal. *Important: *Please forward this mail to all the relevant mailing lists, in case I missed any list. Regards Shiju Alex For WikiConference India 2011, Program Commitee ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 3rd Bangalore Odia Wiki Meetup- Odia Wikipedia reaches 1500 articles
Good work Subhasish and other Odia wiki community members.. *Wikipedia for Odia Literature:* An event which is created to uplift the presence of Odia language and literature in Wikipedia, chronological documentations and media files collection. Next step would be requesting for Odia wikisource. Hope you will be able to rope in more new users from the Odisha state through various outreach programs. Shiju On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Good morning from Odia Wiki Community. Yesterday we had a small meetup to celebrate the *1500 articles Celebration *attended by 6 old and 1 new Wikipedians. Agenda: *Current status:* The substantial growth and the initiatives taken to improve the status of Odia Wikipedia was discussed. Odia Wikipedia was dormant for almost 8 years which just started reviving itself in the beginning of this year and made a leap of almost 1000 well written articles in this short span with the bandwidth of a small community with less active members. Bangalore was the stepping stone for the revival of Odia Wikipediahttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%86:%E0%AC%AE%E0%AD%87%E0%AC%B3%E0%AC%A3/%E0%AC%AC%E0%AD%87%E0%AC%99%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%97%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B3%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B0%E0%AD%81/%E0%AC%AC%E0%AD%87%E0%AC%99%E0%AD%8D%E0%AC%97%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B3%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B0%E0%AD%81%E0%AD%A7and in the 3rd Bangalore Wikipedia Meetuphttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%A1%E0%AC%BC%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%86:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore3we have celebrated 1500 articles. * Projects:* Discussion regarding 2 ongoing projects. *Odia loves Wikipediahttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Odia_loves_Wikipedia :* An event in Commons to bring out media files uploaded by Odia Wikians. This event has reached 351 media files. *Wikipedia for Odia Literature:* An event which is created to uplift the presence of Odia language and literature in Wikipedia, chronological documentations and media files collection. This is running in both in the Wikipedia as well as Commons. Under this event Odia Wikipedia has attained 131 articles in Odia Wikipedia http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odia_sahitya and 37 images in Commons.http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Odia_literature *Further plans:* The next target was set up with attaining 500 more articles to beat Gurumukhi Wikipedia which presently has 2003 articles as both of these Wikipedias took birth in the same time. We also have discussed to discourage creation of stubs without taking care of them for further expansion, creation and used of templates, categories, good citaions. Plans for more outreach programs by collaborating the Odia literature departments of several known colleges and universities was also talked of. Wikipedians debated how Wikipedia could be a fair and reliable source and at times how much beneficial it'd be when most of today's generation are moving out of books and internet has become a repository of unending knowledge and its regional context when an ancient language like Odia is considered, whether or not it is needed to work for Wikipedia, or find any better alternative. Thank you all for reading. Expecting your valuable feedback and comments * ସୁଭପାSubhashishPanigrahi ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ___ Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation
Dear All, Today (*2011 August 30*) is the last day to submit program proposals for WikiConference India 2011. Details regarding this is available at: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation * Please make sure you submit your program proposals (in case you are not submitted it already) if you wish to speak/present a topic in WikiConference India 2011. Thanks Shiju Alex (For Program Committee, WikiConference India 2011) *NOTE:* Program submissions not related to Wikipedia or Wikimedia movement will be rejected. Also we will not accept program proposals after end of day today. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, We have only 4 more days for the Program submission. Last date is August 30. Please submit your program proposals before the due date at * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation * Shiju Alex On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, The Call for Participation for WikiConference India 2011 is open now. Details are available here: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation * Few guidelines that you need to keep in mind before submitting the proposal are available on this page. The guidelines are only meant as a pointer to help speakers and is not expected to be exhaustive. You can submit talks within all aspects of Wikimedia even if the topic is not specifically included on that page. ''' Be Bold.''' Few wikimedians had provided their wish list regarding WikiConference India 2011 here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/ProgramsYou can use that also as reference while submitting the proposal. *Important: *Please forward this mail to all the relevant mailing lists, in case I missed any list. Regards Shiju Alex For WikiConference India 2011, Program Commitee ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation
Can you temme how to edit... I dont find any links to edit my submissions. We will be able to help you only if you provide details of the submission. For example, *title of the submission*. Shiju On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for your response, Can you temme how to edit... I dont find any links to edit my submissions. Thanks, Adethya On 30 August 2011 15:11, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:08, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, can we edit our submission ? I made a submission and now I want to add some more points to it ? Is it possible? Thanks in advance, Adethya Sure, Anything before 23:59:59 tonight IST -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hindi Wiki crossed 1 lakh Article milestone
Good news and congrats. So Hindi became the first Indic language wikipedia crossing the 1 lakh article mile stone Shiju On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Surya Prakash suryasalem2...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations for the contributors readers Hindi community. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg 2011/8/30 mayur mayur...@gmail.com Dear all, With about 50,000 registered user, 250 active users , 14 million edits and a depth of 34http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:StatisticsHindi Wikipedia crossed 1 lakhs articleshttp://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:Statisticsmilestone today. Regards (User:Mayur) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Report on First Wiki Academy organised by Wikimedia Chapter
This is great. Hope more wiki workshops will follow. Shiju On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 13 September 2011 15:28, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: This is amazing - congratulations to you and Gautam. I had almost nothing to do, really. All credit to Arjuna, Ansuman and OmShivaprakash. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] or.wiktionary.org
Good work Odia Wiki community. Hope Odia Wikisource will also up very soon Shiju On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Gerard, Santhosh and team, my heartfelt thanks to all the language committee members for your kind support and I promise the Odia Community will keep up the effort to improve the two projects and finish the rest translations and get started with the other projects. Thanks again. rgds Subha On 28 September 2011 06:26, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, I am really pleased to inform you that the Oriya Wiktionary is the first project ever to be officially re-enabled for editing. The Oriya community is working really hard to make their projects a success. They are noticing that the usability is improving as a consequence of the obligatory localisation that they have to do. Once they are done, the language committee will assess if a Wikiquote can be created as well. The exception that was made to open up the Oriya Wiktionary was given because there is a Wikimeet in the near future and we do want to give their community more of a reason to be happy with their hard work. Thanks, GerardM ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- * ସୁ ଭା ସି ସ ପା ଣି ଗା ହି ** S u b h a s i s a P a n i g a h i ** ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ ___ Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages: Shiju Alex
Dear Indic wikimedians, Thank you very much for the welcome messages and for making me feel at home. Over the past few years I have interacted with many of you for the various Indic Wiki related activities and we have done many successful projects. Thank you very much for all those wonderful projects. Now when we are moving to a different phase of growth of Wikimedia in India, I request more support from your side. To get started we shall together develop a plan for Indic language wikis and design few pilot projects to gain learnings to drive growth. I propose to develop this plan collaboratively and openly - in true wiki style. This will include focused Indic language meetups, virtual meetings, desk research and constantly synthesizing the findings from all of these into learnings. These learnings will then flow into pilots that we will implement and review and learn from. For this purpose, I will be using the following page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_Languages. It is very preliminary right now - but will keep updating it. The page will give you a flavor of the kind of process and methodology I plan to use - and also give you a hint of the end output. However, I stress that is nothing more than a stub right now. So please provide your suggestions. I will be in touch soon and regularly on the next steps and I will keep you constantly posted on progress - both positive and whenever we face setbacks. The task is huge. The potential is even more massive. I will need a lot of your help. I invite and welcome and urge all of you to contribute to this process - during physical meetups, in virtual meetings, one-on-one conversations or meetings, on the talk page to the Indic Languages page and in any and every manner that you can imagine. As part of the India Programs of WMF, my official ID is sh...@wikimedia.org. You can reach me anytime regarding any WMF's Indic wiki related topic. Thanks Shiju On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: cross-posting to reach pan-India; apologies if you have got it from other mailing lists. Dear All As I had mentioned in a previous posting (and as was so touchingly welcomed by so many of of you), Shiju Alex is joining us to lead our Indic Languages initiatives. In this mail ( http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-July/003845.html), I had indicated that he would join around September-October. I'm really pleased to inform you that he has now joined India Programs (on September 24th.) Indic Languages is an important priority for us - and Shiju intends to start work on this urgently. He'll be in touch shortly on this matter. Welcome aboard, Shiju! Warmest Regards, hisham ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
