RE: [WISPA] Network Valuation Considerations

I think in most cases I've seen they are referring to a multiple of yearly revenue not monthly. So your 12x monthly is equal to 1x yearly. Determining a valuation of a company is rarely performed with only one factor taken into account. Simply saying an operation is worth x times yearly revenue

RE: [WISPA] Industry failings

This only adds more fuel to the argument that simply placing a multiple on a company isn't where the "smart money" is. Revenue is largely irrelevant. Profits are King. Revenue doesn't put kids through school or buy that new car...bottom line profit does. The concept of fixed wireless has long

RE: [WISPA] Industry failings

Organic growth typically refers to internally funded growth without outside investment. I would imagine that vast majority of wISPs are experiencing "organic growth". Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tues

RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

You're asking for a pretty tall order unless there is a new frequency band and/or product newly available I'm unaware of. 28 miles reliably (relative term) can probably only be obtained with 6GHz, but 6GHz requires a minimum 6' antenna per FCC rules. You might be able to get an exception to the a

RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link

om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Need recommendations for a licensed backhaul link You're asking for a pretty tall order unless there is a new frequency

RE: [WISPA] One method to calculate a fair Multiple for Evaluation

True, but a sure fire way to have a motivated seller is first to have a motivated buyer. We've owned property that simply wasn't for sale...we were proven wrong. At the right price anything is for sale! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [WISPA] One method to calculate a fair Multiple for Evaluation

easily duplicated. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] One method to calculate a fair Multiple for Evaluation Brad Belton wrote: &g

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

While I'm a fan of MikroTik, the test setup you show is not a viable solution in a real world deployment. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Coppini (AIR Networks) Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA Genera

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Agreed, 18GHz should fit the bill nicely for 100Mbps in the 5-10 miles range. 80GHz will do 100Mbps - 1000Mbps up to about 3-4miles. I hear 65GHz will do 100Mbps - 1000Mbps beyond 5miles. Of course it all depends on your acceptable uptime requirement. Best, Brad -Original Message- Fro

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Not only that, but is the GigE radio even available yet? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

20mpg? Big deal, I get pretty dang close to that (17-18mpg city) with my foot the in floorboard of my Excursion. This is my second Excursion...it is fast approaching 150k miles and running strong as new. Too bad Ford killed it. Of course it has the diesel with a few minor modifications... Best

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Great review, Bob. Gotta love it! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options OK...Lets have a revie

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Wow Tom. That comment is really out of character and your emotions must have gotten the best of you. Doing what you suggest with your "Equalizer" is going to get you in a boat load of trouble one day. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable. Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready! I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohr

RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works well. I've attached a snapshot. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject:

RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

How many feet do you have? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5 I've got a roll of it I'll give you REAL cheap (it's been

RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

at 5 performance then it is best to terminate > on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in > the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone > else confirm or deny? > Scriv > > > Brad Belton wrote: > > >Yep, standard 2

RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

ock. If I find the mfg/part number I'll post it. BTW: I owe you a phone call. -B- Brad Belton wrote: >I have been told the same regarding terminating pairs on a 110 block vs. 66 >block. 110 blocks were made with CAT5 in mind whereas 66 blocks were around >probably long befor

RE: [WISPA] salary

That's an easy one; never. Continue upgrading and if necessary push older gear further out on the network. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List'

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Happy Holidays from Redline Communications

Wholly agree that there are many other religions than Christianity and fortunately here in the great 'ol USA we have many freedoms including freedom of religion. However, without dispute the reason for the season is Christmas. The world stops during these times for no other reason than Christmas.

RE: [WISPA] Council rejects wireless proposal

Wow...impressive! A city counsel that didn't fall for the snake oil salesman... Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Council rejects wireles

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Hello Marlon, VL won't be a good choice as a committed rate business grade product as it will modulate down in a noisy environment. Without any RX threshold mechanism the VL radio begins to slow and drop packets under heavy business class loads in unfriendly RF environments. Even the references

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Yep, the cable is pre-terminated in some odd non-code compliant pin configuration. Oh, and pre-terminated due to the fact that the RJ45 connector doesn't fit through the weather seal! Just about a millimeter too small! When are you guys going to start using the standard 568A or 568B pin color co

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

amp; Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hello Marlon,

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Wow back at ya there, Mike! Never said the product was less in quality in any form. Simply stating the gear doesn't perform well under load in unfriendly RF environments. Alvarion Techs themselves acknowledge the radios back off modulation speeds in the face of noise. Do you know something the

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Agreed, Trango is far from "immune" from interference, but they do give you a few more tools in your bag to combat it. (1) RX Threshold (2) Dual Polarity (3) Dual Band Alvarion VL offers none of these. If they did they would hands down be the best PtMP LE gear available today IMO. However,

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Wow back at ya there, Mike! Never said the product was less in quality in any form. Simply stating

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

packets dropping to the tune of 5-25%...not a good thing. Love to continue with this discussion, but I have a few more last minute Christmas errands to run! Merry Christmas! Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:45 PM To

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

t learning another color code can be daunting. But it is only eight conductors. When done properly it tests the same as any other straight cable. Happy Holidays! Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Yep, the cab

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

My thoughts exactly. If the VL had a mechanism to "tune out" noise and a few other tools (dual pol - dual band) that would enable the user avoid noise then it is possible there simply would not be a better PtMP LE product available today. Without those critical elements the VL is just not able

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

I don't think Marlon is asserting the VL is simply another "wifi" radio (even though it does use a wifi Atheros chip with CSAM), but more so that the VL offers no method for a user to avoid or overcome noise. Simply lowering modulation, slowing down and retransmitting over and over until the packe

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

I don't think Marlon is asserting the VL is simply another "wifi" radio (even though it does use a wifi Atheros chip with CSAM), but more so that the VL offers no method for a user to avoid or overcome noise. Simply lowering modulation, slowing down and retransmitting over and over until the packe

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Sorry for the double post...compoooter issues today I guess! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

Hello Patrick, With all due respect I don't think anyone here doubts the Alvarion VL is not simply a plain vanilla CSMA product. However, unfortunately the end result is the same when deployed in a RF hostile environment. All the items you list below while impressive are of little use in RF host

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

This is a bit misleading and doesn't answer Marlon's question. Entering a "0" value in the VL "contention window algorithm" setting will indeed turn off the VL contention mechanism, but it will do little for the client behind the VL radio trying to pass data. Glossy advertisement buzz words l

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] once again, several of the key... OK, so when we set the value to 0, how does the ap d

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Give the VL dual polarity via software control and you might have something worth taking note about. Throw in dual band ability and now you're on the right track. As it sits now Alvarion is requiring you to visit every site you have a VL radio and rotate it 90* in the event you need to do so. So

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

call such an algorithm? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:36 PM To: 'W

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Give the VL dual polarity via software control and you might have something worth taking note about. Throw in d

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Give the VL dual polarity via software control and you might have something worth taking note about. Throw in dual

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Hello Tom, "Alvarion's strength is it empowers an operator to engineer a more durable link, based on antenna quality and flexibility." Antenna quality I'll give you. Alvarion uses MTi antennas which by most all accounts builds a quality product. Flexibility? Not a chance. No Dual Polarity +

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

to MIR. In what cases is CIR really needed? And what areas of your business or network also prevent the CIR Full QOS guarantee from being realized? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[E

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

short of a licensed channel can accomplish that? Rich - Original Message - From: Brad Belton To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived If we are in an environment where ANY particular

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Correct. Any medium used to deliver broadband can be broken. However, frankly due to the fewer points of failure we typically see less downtime on unlicensed wireless links than we do conventional LEC T1 circuits. Like many things it all comes down to the geographic area. Would you expect a h

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

nd cannot help but wonder why you continue to send these posts over and over and over to this list. I do not need to be told every day that VL is bad in the "world according to Brad Belton". We have all heard you say it 100 times I think. (Maybe several time that if we look at your pos

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

d I get insights into equipment that I haven't personally had direct experience. But the constant bashing that some product will guarantee business class services in interference and another won't is tiresome, and just turns people off from the good content that people appreciate. Rich -

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived -regardinginterference - Part 1

lol...gotta love it! I'd argue it doesn't have to be only $300 to sell. I'd pay two or three times that for such a product. But honestly that isn't that much to ask as many products are already so close...Alvarion VL being one of the closest, but still no cigar. I like what you said about de

RE: [WISPA] US Wireless Online Sells 50.1 Percent

Nope on both accounts. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 6:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] US Wireless Online Sells 50.1 Percent Are they the company that bought Allen M.

RE: [WISPA] US Wireless Online Sells 50.1 Percent

D] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] US Wireless Online Sells 50.1 Percent Nope on both accounts. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato

RE: [WISPA] US Wireless Online Sells 50.1 Percent

Yes, Mobilepro bought ShreveNet along with a payphone company and a variety of other small companies. Bottom of this webpage http://www.nationwide.net lists some of the companies they have acquired. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

RE: [WISPA] US Wireless Online Sells 50.1 Percent

MAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:51 PM To: 'WISPA Gen

RE: [WISPA] Brad B, I got your answer on the pinout for BreezeACCESS VL

Hello Patrick, Thanks for the explanation, however I'm not sure how simply reversing the pin-outs will improve cross talk. The Alvarion VL Manual doesn't specify the function of each Pin/Wire color. I assume Green & Orange pairs are still used for Data and the Blue & Brown pairs are used for po

RE: [WISPA] Brad B, I got your answer on the pinout for BreezeACCESS VL

Ahh ok, neither do I or the people I've spoken with about this. In another post I illustrated the Alvarion VL pin out is simply inverted. Don't see how that could make any difference in cross talk rejection. So, can we expect Alvarion will at some point begin to adhere to industry wiring codes?

RE: [WISPA] Optimally taking advantage of GB Ethernet

Hello Tom, First let me saydamn Cowboys... I'm not sure I follow exactly what you are saying, but we have pushed better than 800Mbps HDX and more than 700Mbps FDX aggregate between GigE MT routers. Checking the router Interfaces show a 1500MTU setting. Is that what you are talking about? B

RE: [WISPA] Scrivner's story

Nice job. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Scrivner's story *A WISP with Vision *

RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

I'll agree with Mark on this. There are many that are exploiting city counsel's across the country to only line their own pockets. I have read about one muni-wifi failure after another...point me to a real success story. As a percentage my guess is the failures far, far outweigh the successes.

RE: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly Brad, Here is a link you might want to read up on. http://muniwireless.com/municipal/1556 Regards, Dawn DiPietro Brad Belton wrote: >I'll agree with Mark on this. There are many that are exploiting city >counsel&#x

RE: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management

...read my mind. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management Have you thought about selling the customer a pipe tha

RE: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? Was: Advanced Bandwidth Management

Holy cow! Stepped away from the 'puter for a bit and see that everyone's beating up on poor 'ol Matt for making a perfectly correct statement! No surprise as to some of the people commenting here that largely promote "best effort" gear, but others that have commented should know better. Rick, yo

wireless@wispa.org

Appears to be a manual thing... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honors without permission-- WELCOMEMarty&Roads

RE: [WISPA] high bandwidth service offerings

Simple, you price it for what your market will bear. 15Mbps handed off via a few feet of CAT5 inside a CoLo center is obviously less costly than 15Mbps several miles from the central business district. Per MB prices can range from several hundred (or more) dollars a MB to less than a few bucks a

RE: [WISPA] TV white spaces

Somebody turn the flip'n moderation back on! Patrick, let's be clear; you're motivation is driven only by pushing more Alvarion boxes off the shelf. Don't try to play the white knight here under the guise of looking out for everyone. You're a company man simply after what puts food on your ta

RE: [WISPA] Disagree with me and I won't buy your product

Agreed. Crazy. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:51 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Disagree with me and I won't buy your product I've been following the increasingly

RE: [WISPA] Disagree with me and I won't buy your product

Crazy as an astronaut with a BB gun in a diaper on a road trip on a mission to kill someone. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA]

OT...RE: [WISPA] Disagree with me and I won't buy your product

--Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Disagree with me and I won't buy your product Crazy as an astronaut with a BB gun in a diaper on

RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ?????

No kidding. So...in one breath you're saying WISPA isn't playing the FCC Cop, and in another you make a completely unfounded comment like this? I must have missed where Travis said he was deploying 5.4GHz APs and thumbing his nose at the FCC. Geesh, what an outlandish and overreaching commen

RE: [WISPA] McKinney and longview TExas Service

The McKinney, TX address doesn't come up as a good address using Yahoo or Google maps. Can you confirm the address, provide coordinates or possibly identify the closest major intersection? What type of service are they looking for? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [WISPA] Clearwire stock dropping

Correct and that I believe is what Matt's point is. Too early to kick CLWR to the curb for at least two reasons: (1) short term market downturn (2) additional 4M shares issued Both of these items can and often will soften a stock value. All that said I think $20 - $24 a share is ridiculous

RE: [WISPA] Clearwire stock dropping

ease its value? And who says a profit needs to be made for a company to survive long term, when they are kept alive by the stock market? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WISPA] Clearwire stock dropping

's value irrelevent? If we have lots of extra money sitting around to invest, shouldn't we be investing it in ourselves for a higher return and less risk? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton&

RE: [WISPA] outside connection

In the event we need to extend a CAT5 cable we use the 3M UY connectors. Keep the twist of each wire as close as possible and then tape, Coax-Seal and more tape. We've never had a problem with this method...knock on wood. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [WISPA] anyone see this?

lol...exactly. It is fun (sometimes) when confronted by the "IT guy" that claims they have zero tolerance for downtime. We say ok, you need to place your operation inside a telco hotel or you'll need to bring in power from two separate grids, build out fully redundant HVAC, fire suppression,

RE: [WISPA] Spring has sprung!

Oh dear, please keep the off topic comments off list and under your tinfoil hat. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spring has sprung!

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Simple Queues

Hello Don, If you are running current firmware (v2.9.3x or greater) under the Simple Queue Advanced tab try changing the Queue Type to "Ethernet-default". We have seen more accurate bandwidth limiting using the Ethernet-default setting. YMMV, but worth a try. Best, Brad -Original Messa

RE: [WISPA] New Alvarion CPE- Excellent

Hello Tom, Got any pictures? Good to hear they improved the mounting design. The old design was too small for many of the pipes we use. If the new design will accommodate 3 1/2" - 4" pipes then that is a nice improvement. Wow, they changed the CAT5 weather seal and now a terminated CAT5 cable

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

Agreed. Just getting caught up on some of my email readings and strongly believe Jack and John are off the mark here. 6GHz, 11GHz, 18GHz, 23GHz, 24GHz, 60GHz and 80-90GHz should all be important to us as a group. Any frequency that can be used by fixed wireless operators should be important to

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

I don't think you would select 11GHz to go 100'. That's the whole point...let's hope FCC doesn't screw up 11GHz by allowing it's use for short haul applications. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesda

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

uld be most appreciated to get real answers. If I'm "off the mark" as you believed, that's OK with me as long as it leads to an understanding of what the real issues are and builds our credibility with the FCC, the manufacturers, and the public at large. Real understanding b

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

Or possibly called BGP... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] McCaw losing money? Yea there is, its call DNS Ryan On Wed, 2007-03

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

Use up every drop. THEN, IF there's a problem, figure out how to deal with it. marlon ----- Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comme

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

g petitions of our own which will become the policy for our industry in the future as opposed to rapid fire commenting on other people's work all the time. Scriv Brad Belton wrote: >Agreed. Just getting caught up on some of my email readings and strongly >believe Jack and John are

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

vailability of > frequencies or the sale of "vertical real estate" on their tower > properties. > > Have a good day, > > jack > > > > Brad Belton wrote: > >> Hello Jack, >> >> Good to see you're back on track with, IMO, a proper response

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

how we should comment as WISPA. I am not trying to stop you from helping, quite the contrary. You obviously feel strongly about this issue so please send us what you find so we can make an informed decision on how best to proceed. Scriv Brad Belton wrote: >"... I am sure we could se

RE: [WISPA] When to get license

In order for the license to be enforced it has to be in use. There are obvious exceptions; building the link, link is down for maintenance etc. For the most part if the link isn't up for a consecutive period of time (and demonstrated as such) then it could be passed on to someone else. Seems t

RE: [WISPA] MuniFi: Build it and they stilldon't come?

Surely you don't see this as any kind of surprise? Like I've been saying all along, the Cellular guys will dominate the Mobile User market. Muni-Networks are, IMO, largely a "get rich quick scheme" for the few that are talented enough to sway overeager city counsels into writing big checks for a

RE: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router

Hello Sam, Curious if both DS3 cards have the lockup problem? You do still have two of them, right? If so, it is unlikely you have two bad DS3 cards. Especially because if they are the ones you bought from me I know they are good! We never had any trouble with them interfacing our AT&T DS3s.

RE: [WISPA] Slow Internet across MT Router

Wow, then it has to be a MikroTik issue. We ran them under v2.8.x for better than a year (or two?) can't remember that far back these days it seems! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 14,

RE: [WISPA] WISP Peering

This is exactly what we have done. We brought two DS3's out to a rural area and have broken off parts of that bandwidth to other ISPs. In fact as I type we have failed over part of one ISP's network over a geographically diverse third backhaul we have back into town. I believe we extended an o

RE: [WISPA] WISP Peering

You make it sound like that can happen in a matter of minutes or even seconds. Not likely the case. All the while your clients are getting hosed due to the negligence of another. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy

RE: [WISPA] WISP Peering

Sometimes putting up your own tower isn't an option for a variety of reasons. However, I agree the idea of "hanging" a client of ours off of somebody else's system doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies either for obvious reasons. Sometimes it's best to just refer the potential client to the ISP

RE: [WISPA] WISP Peering

All, I really don't think Travis is trying to insult anyone, but simply stating the facts. Everyone here that has scaled to any level understands the complexities of a network and the business are compounded as it grows. Nothing against Marlon, but his argument of comparing multiple upstream p

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

Very cool video Stephen! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops Zack, you flatter us! S

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

BTW, how is the 80GHz system coming along? Any information you can share yet? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nift

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC

Correct. The RB44g had issues with earlier MT OS versions. I haven't tested the RB44g yet again, but I think they have resolved the issue. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=14316&highlight=rb44g&sid=479f896a 017421b1fc3b34a37f5135e6 The RB44 is a solid performer. We've ever had any is

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC

Hello Tom, Interesting...we've never seen this problem before with countless RB44s deployed. I suspect it isn't solely a RB44 issue, but probably a hardware combination of some sort. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom De

RE: [WISPA] MikroTik Hardware

The issue you are seeing with minor packet loss may be due to the RB44G cards. I know they initially had issues, but I haven't personally had the time to test the RB44G again since my post on the MT forum back in March. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14316&hilit= If you need GigE

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

The picture of the device in the PDF sure looks more like a four port/device product than an eight port/device product. It only shows four (1-4) LED indicator lights and it appears the top four ports are labeled as "Data" and the corresponding bottom four ports are labeled as "POE". This leads me

Re: [WISPA] POE Switch

The Tycon Power Midspan injectors look promising, but like you said they need to add redundant power supply inputs and switches/jumpers to reverse voltage polarity in order to support more products. Sure would be nice if they added the current indicator too so you know if the radio up top is plugg

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