Many WISPs have been too busy trashing the Muni-WiFi concept to look at
the opportunities. Who can blame AT&T for taking advantage when most
WISPs turned up their noses. It is not too late for WISPs to get a
foothold in the Muni-WiFi arena if they try. Turning up their noses at
the idea will no
bad thing for a WISP and in fact can be a good
opportunity if they become part of the effort early on and stave off the
competitive approach many communities have opted to take..
Scriv
Matt Liotta wrote:
John Scrivner wrote:
I have not been contacted and really have never heard what you are
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Matt Liotta wrote:
All,
I have been hearing reports about problems at the various muni
wireless network deployments. More recently, I have heard a number of
local hams have been contacted by recruiters looking for help with
problem muni wireless networks. Has anyone on the l
I am sure it has been asked before but...
I need a good source for shielded Cat 5 (with a drain wire). Can you
tell me who to call and what the price is per 1000'? I think we paid
some ridiculous amount for it recently. What's the best you have seen
and who has it?
Thanks guys,
Scriv
George
The Military only for now. We will be able to under certain conditions
if the NTIA would ever release the reference standard for developing
testing of DFS and TPC for 5.4 to 5.7 GHz equipment certification. Many
hardware manufacturers have equipment ready once a testing standard is
released.
S
I still think we need to keep this discussion going for a bit. I have a
question for you guys. Which do you think is better for all concerned.
Do you think we should portray a false sense of security and anonymity?
Do you think we should tell our customers, "Hey do whatever you want
online, nob
Sam Tetherow wrote:
Given what the article cites I don't see it being a severe burden on a
small ISP. All that I see mentioned in the article is the ability to
track what IP belongs to what customer over a period of time. If you
can't track that on your network, how do you manage to trouble
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Harold,
One more question for you on your APs. I see they support WPA, WPA2 TKIP
and AES as well as WDS. Can you tell me if your radios will support WPA
and WPA2 over WDS? Many radios support one or the other (WPA / WDS) but
not both at the same time. I will be needing both at once for my hotsp
.
Thank you,
John Scrivner
PS. Is Deliberant thinking of joining WISPA? If you need help with your
decision feel free to hit me offlist.
Harold Bledsoe wrote:
The one thing I would note about many of the "roll your own" systems is
that typically they consist of a certified module
or
used?
jack
John Scrivner wrote:
The rules state that any radio / antenna combination has to either be
a certified system or that a substitute antenna used would have to
meet the same specs as one used for certification in a system. Many
think that this means "anything goes&
The rules state that any radio / antenna combination has to either be a
certified system or that a substitute antenna used would have to meet
the same specs as one used for certification in a system. Many think
that this means "anything goes". The truth is that there are almost
certainly a good
Thank you Matt. I am glad you took this one. I would have said the exact
same things you did if I was that good with words. I absolutely agree
with everything you said here.
:-)
Scriv
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
Calm down kids!!
First of all to JohnnyO - you need to spend a lot more time pr
The answer is base station licenses for those who need / want spectrum
with interference protection and higher power. With this model you
could apply for a base station license (in other words 1 tower location
worth of spectrum in one geographic area), pay an annual fee and have
exclusive use
Try flipping polarities of one of the systems if possible. If they use
point to point yagis, as I have seen often, then setting the water
company to a different polarity to you should be a simple fix. How wide
(in megahertz) is the bandwidth of their system? How wide is yours? I
know Waverider
look forward to the work we will all do together to make this industry
better. WISPA has a stronger foundation now with you and Alvarion being
part of the effort and we appreciate your support very much.
Your friend,
John Scrivner
Patrick Leary wrote:
Thanks John, Rick, Matt, Marlon, et al
I never read the whole language of the bill. Does anyone have a link to
it? If that language exists then let me be the first to beat up on him
over this. Why is it we see press releases from politicians but rarely a
link to the language of their proposed legislation?
Scriv
Marlon K. Schafer (
We are proud to announce that Alvarion has joined WISPA as our newest
vendor member. Alvarion has been key in the development of the
operations of many WISPs over the years. Alvarion is considered by many
to be the premier solution for WISP operations and we welcome them to
WISPA as a vendor me
Let me be clear. I would rather the government stay out of broadband
altogether. I honestly mean that. I think it is a shame that our
government gets involved in as many things involving broadband as they
do. The trouble is that they will not stay out of our business. So the
next thing we have
cynical in my old age.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
Nice job on the website Matt Larsen. You rock man! Especially when you
are playing bass guitar!
:-)
Scriv
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internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per
year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing
more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar
businesses going out of business. Am I missing something?
Travis
Microserv
John Scrivner wrote
This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has
been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I
have been saying.
Scriv
*DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL
AREAS *
Friday, August 4, 2006
[WASHINGTON, DC]
Peter,
Thank you for passing along this success story for Optivon. They
recently joined WISPA as a vendor member. I am glad to see that their
belief in partnering with WISPs to use WISP platforms for delivery of
VOIP is baring fruit. Thanks again Peter.
John Scrivner
Peter R. wrote
I am assuming 2.4 GHz WiFi access? If that is the case then use two 90
degree sectors overlooking the same coverage area. I would try to place
some vertical or horizontal displacement between the antennas if at all
possible to eliminate any noise introduction between APs. (This
displacement is
http://www.panduit.com/
Find your nearest dealer or become a dealer. They train you for free.
Less than $500 worth of tools and you can terminate fiber forever with
low-cost easy to use parts. Why pay someone to come and put ends on your
fiber when you can do it yourself? I figured it out whic
From what I read all they did was grant the WCAI the right to write a
longer statement than is normally allowed. This is not an award of any
significance that I can see..
Scriv
Peter R. wrote:
AMENDMENT OF PARTS 1, 21, 73, 74 AND 101 OF THE COMMISSION'S RULES TO
FACILITATE THE PROVISION OF F
Dori,
Please send a copy of MVN's Wireless Subscriber Agreement to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] That address is only paid WISPA Principle Members. I
want to make it clear to all of you that I am sharing this only as a
reference of what I am doing. I do not warranty the use of this document
in any way. I
I have seen some degradation of the content of the WISPA list server of
late. A little humor and off topic chatter is ok but we probably need to
improve our signal to noise ratio just a little bit guys please. Let's
all step up the level of professionalism required to keep the list a
vital part
I would like to take this opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor
Member to our organization. Optivon has
paid their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of
the WISP industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure
I speak for us all in welcoming them to
I will plan on bringing my drums down I reckon. What about you Larsen?
You bringing your bass guitar? Any guitar players out there who know how
to rock-n-roll? When is this shindig? Is there a webpage for it? Let's rock!
:-)
Scriv
Mac Dearman wrote:
Very Good!!
We are gonna have a blowout.
For some reason Alex is having trouble posting to the WISPA General List
so here is what he was trying to send:
Alex wrote,
I aon't write for this list any longer, but thought I'd drop in some
thoughts that may be useful to you. Perhaps useful to those of you who
are just getting into being
Someone had suggested that a Nortel router could be used to provide
failover between two broadband connections. Can you please help me? We
bought one of these boxes and now my sysadmin tells me we have no
ability to use this box because Nortel will not give us access to the
configuration softwa
Can you tell us how this network is structured? How many Tropos units
per backhaul radio are used? What platform is used for backhaul? Is it
5, 2.4 or 900 for backhaul? How is the performance of this network?
Anything else you can share is appreciated.
Scriv
Anthony Will wrote:
Im in MN wher
I just wanted to send out my personal thanks to Butch Evans for taking
the positive step of asking how to advertise on the WISPA lists and then
actually following through and paying as he did. We have seen many
attempts by distributors, vendors, etc. to use WISPA resources to their
advantage in
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Directors.***
WISP-Training.com will be doing a 4-day
training session covering Mikrotik's RouterOS software. This
training
session will be held in St.
Louis, MO on
Jul 31-Aug 3. Find out more
at http://www.wisp-r
*** This is a paid
advertisement which has been approved by the WISPA Board of
Directors.***
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training session covering Mikrotik's RouterOS software. This
training
session will be held in St.
Louis, MO on
Jul 31-Aug 3. Find out more
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I guess I will answer my own post again. Am I the only guy who called
these Senators after
I guess I will answer my own post again. Am I the only guy who called
these Senators after we all put together the list of every member of the
US Senate Commerce Committee and their phone numbers? You can lead a
horse to water...
Scriv
John Scrivner wrote:
Sorry to answer my own post but I
channels for unlicensed broadband use
then you better act now or forever hate trees. :-)
Scriv
John Scrivner wrote:
Please read this note from our friend Frannie from Free Press. She
needs our help right away! We need to call these Senators.
Scriv
Hi John and Marlon,
We have a crucial vote this
If you work with your Muni (many of us do) then it can be your life
blood in some cases. We do not use local tax dollars but we do use water
towers, we connect the police departments to cop cars and fire
departments to each other. Stuff like this IS the promise of Muni BB and
it is a great wa
Check this out. We net'd an increase in dialup over the last week of
plus 2 dialup customers. That's right folks. In this day and age in the
summer time no less. We added more dialup than we turned off. I can't
believe it but I am not going to turn them away for sure. Dialup still
pays a bunch
Please read this note from our friend Frannie from Free Press. She needs
our help right away! We need to call these Senators.
Scriv
Hi John and Marlon,
We have a crucial vote this week in the Senate Commerce Committee. The
Committee will vote on the telecom bill (S.2686) - it's not a good bill
Can you give more details on the versions that require a license key?
What will they cost? What features will they have specifically? What is
FIPS 197? Could this FIPS 197 service allow for service to medical
facilities also? I would like to be able to approach the hospitals,
doctor's offices,
It is not a question of how many customers will want this MTU
adjustment feature. Setting MTU size should be elementary for your
firmware guys. It is an option in any open embedded OS I have seen for
wireless management. I have seen MTU size options on $100 APs. MTU size
is something that is c
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Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9
It is not a clock issue. All the messages that were sent with old dates
were already delivered previously. These are duplicate messages.
Scriv
David E. Smith wrote:
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
I ogt them too...
I peeked at the headers (sorry, that's my schtick) and while the Date:
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ck Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
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Can you or someone explain what double VLAN is? I have never heard of
such a thing. How can it be used to help us?
Thanks,
Scriv
Yo may want to look at Alvarion. Alvarion does support VLAN. new
Firmware4 supports double VLAN also.
Alvarion used to have one model that was designed to have a se
There is a Principle Member's list which is made up of WISP operators
who have paid for Principle Membership. That list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] We
only have a couple of Associate members so have not made up a list just
for paid Associate members yet. We are considering other list resources
for dif
The plan for any reasonable mesh design calls for mounting mesh nodes on
street light poles with utility company pole attachment agreements and
right of way access from municipalities. OTARD has nothing to do with that.
Scriv
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Ever wonder what kind of ra
We give refunds. It is the best advertising you can do for yourself. We
get customers from word of mouth and from people who come back to us
after trying some other ISP who they thought might be cheaper and/or
better only to find they were treated badly. We even have folks come
back to us for d
I will pass along these final thoughts I have on the issues I had with
Hyperlink. First of all I do not unduly burden my vendors and I pay for
problems that I bring on myself. I also pay for support from vendors
that I feel is beyond normal pre-sales support. The situation I had with
them for t
y the real picture gets disclosed.
I wish WISPs really did have 8% of the market.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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We were banned from doing business with them because we requested a
return once. Not kidding.
Scriv
Rudolph Worrell wrote:
Can someone give me their honest opinion about doing business with
www.hyperlinktech.com. They seem to have a great deal of antennas and cable
but I am not sure they ar
minds
me...where is that 5.4 GHz band!)
:-)
Scriv
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: R
for once it is nice to see us represented in some
statistically important degree. I am not really that concerned about the
exact number of customers. It is just nice to see us making the report
in some meaningful way.
Scriv
David E. Smith wrote:
John Scrivner wrote:
Check this out from the
Check this out from the Pew report. It appears that fixed wireless is
much bigger than what even I thought. According to this report 8% of
all broadband connections in the US are delivered via fixed broadband
wireless. That means you guys! Woo Hoo!
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Patrick Leary wrote:
I favor substantial use rules and also agree in rejecting squatters rights.
A method of issuing licenses I like is the following:
1. licenses are broken up into regional and local.
Why not license by base station? Then a provider cannot ignore
under-ser
spectrum policy would reflect at least the spirit of
the policy as outlined above. Do we want to continue to allow policy to
happen around us or do we want to start building policy that is forward
thinking enough to empower us all?
John Scrivner
PS. If you are reading this and you have not pa
WISPA works to make sure that when government decides they will be
taking a role in our industry that they do so without harming us. You
cannot lobby anonymously. You CAN stand and be counted or hide and cower
under a rock in obscurity. If you are one of the rock dwellers I am sure
you are not
rm WISP's it is also
possible that it could happen by chance.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
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your gun.
Good bye,
John Scrivner
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industry and I applaud those of
you who agree to help.
Kindest regards,
John Scrivner
George Rogato wrote:
To All WISPA Members
The WISPA Board of Directors, during the March Board of Directors
meeting, created the WISPA Promotional Marketing Committee to promote
it's WISPA Members, WISP
es will
not do the job.. The unlicensed 900 MHz technology we are using is an
absolute necessity in making rural broadband options available today in
all of the United States.
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bless you and your efforts,
John Scrivner
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>Dear Mr. Scrivner,
>
>My name is David Maddox and I am an AmeriCorps member volunte
Does anyone out there serve rural Carbondale, Illinois? If you do then I
have a potential client for you. Let me know.
Thanks,
Scriv
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I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some
screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the
hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I
would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble
visualizing e
making the call to get the same data.
Scriv
John Scrivner wrote:
I just called them. They are asking $732.00 each for these units. They
are not an integrated antenna and radio as I first thought. They have
an external N connector on them.
The guy I spoke with said that the FCC certs are pending
I am planning to attend.
Scriv
Peter R. wrote:
Is anyone attending ISPCON in Baltimore next month?
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Marlon has been asking us for a while to give him feedback on Universal
Service. We have not helped him as much as we should have. He asked for
input from the WISPA membership originally. I am asking everyone,
members or not, if you can help. Marlon has been asked by a member of
the House Comme
Jeff, I read Patrick's post before yours. I am also glad to see you
here. WISPA has been working hard to gain access to spectrum and better
regulatory issues for our industry. We have seen some real successes. We
still have a long way to go but the WISP industry has been making great
gains towa
Hello Patrick, welcome back.
For some of you folks who are new to this list or wireless, Patrick has
been a big friend to the fixed broadband wireless industry for many
years. Patrick formerly held the position of "Chief Evangelist" for
Alvarion before accepting his promotion to Vice President
Can someone in the Chicago area please serve this guy? If you get him a
wireless connection please let me know and I will have a press release
prepared and sent out.
Thanks,
Scriv
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I just called them. They are asking $732.00 each for these units. They
are not an integrated antenna and radio as I first thought. They have an
external N connector on them.
The guy I spoke with said that the FCC certs are pending approval and
that the unit is being tested for approval now. I
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Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
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but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Saying we're "niche"
and
not "mainstream" and there is some division is a real strech. Brad
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Steve said:
>You've finally come around to this view John, and you'll discover that
you have a lot of company in > that view - which isn't (widely)
represented on this list or necessarily within WISPA.
I did not "finally come around" Steve. For the record, I wanted VL at
the time I bought
I decided to do some reading on the term "carrier-grade" and have found
the following to be what is considered a definition in relation to our
industry. One random source on the web refers to this as, "A term that
implies a system that is designed to have increased availability and
timeliness
I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I guess maybe you could
call them and ask for the URL to their FCC certs? If you see this then
passing those along here would sure be nice.
Thanks,
Scriv
Jason Wallace wrote:
John Scrivner:
" Sadly the best Wifi solutions available do not
port. We need more paid
members if we are to have more influence and credibility in making
policy that helps our industry.
Best of luck,
John Scrivner
I want to keep interferance to a minimum, as well as control costs.
My environment includes lots of desert, and single story buildin
I do not have the link to the proceeding but t is known as 04-186 and a
quick Google should get you to it. It is on the FCC.gov website
someplace. Anyone have a link to it? The power limits are spelled out
there I believe. The public process on 04-186 is complete now. We will
have what we have
many tasks. They’re also upgradeable to run on our
cellular
telemetry system."
Apologies to all,
Dawn DiPietro
John Scrivner wrote:
We have a problem. It appears the press release we read earlier was
wrong. Attached is the exact language of the bill. It is asking for
ALL t
eption of"
608 to 614 MHz. This is a COMPLETELY different meaning than what is
portrayed in your press release and has caused a great deal of
misinformation about this bill. PLEASE correct this so others do not
make the same mistake.
With regrets,
John Scrivner
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I need a copy of this bill right away.
Scriv
Frannie Wellings wrote:
> Hey John,
>
> The Inslee bill is a
Try different radios and/or system OS. You could run Mikrotik or Star OS
on the board for little money. If it is not a motherboard issue then I
think there is something that the OS or radios do not like specific to
that location.
Scriv
rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
All,
we have a 50' tower that h
Well engineered links with proper installation, lightning protection,
battery backup and good gear will be just as reliable (if not more) as
any land line system in my opinion. The rub is that many wireless links
are poorly engineered, bad gear and not installed well. Garbage
in...garbage out.
I cannot believe I have never read about this before. Is it an April
Fool's joke? According to the sources I have seen this was released a
couple of years back. Can anyone confirm or deny the validity of this
information? Does anyone have a link that leads to a description of
exactly what can a
less.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Please read below
to the current House Spectrum Bill
and submit a competing proposal that has a chance to do some good.
Respectfully,
John Scrivner
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Please read below and see my remarks on this feeble attempt to help
Americans.
New spectrum legislation crafted
By Dan O'Shea
Apr 5, 2006 12:02 PM
Five members of the U.S. House of Representatives have announced new
legislation that allow broadband wireless carriers and other companies
to us
Here is a copy of a report from Reuters regarding the latest results on
FCC Form 477 totals. As you can see we are not even mentioned. I guess
those of you who decided we should not fill out the form got what you
wantedobscurity and no credit.
Broadband lines jump 32 pct in new US FCC rep
them say they are the best out there at any
price.
Scriv
John Scrivner wrote:
We have good luck with Linksys. If the customer is a larger business
client or someone who needs higher reliability and better features we
often load up Mikrotik on a Routerboard or WRAP board.
Scriv
Bo Hamilton
We have good luck with Linksys. If the customer is a larger business
client or someone who needs higher reliability and better features we
often load up Mikrotik on a Routerboard or WRAP board.
Scriv
Bo Hamilton wrote:
Wondering what routers are all of you using at client installs? What
are
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: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: [isp-wireless] USF fund reform
The unfortunate dialog below is a perfect demonstration of why Matt
was correct in saying this document should
go into WISPA membership only list discussion areas now and the
topic is closed for public discussion. Topic closed.
Deepest regrets,
John Scrivner
John Scrivner wrote:
The unfortunate dialog below is a perfect demonstration of why Matt
was correct in saying this document should have never been
The unfortunate dialog below is a perfect demonstration of why Matt was
correct in saying this document should have never been circulated
outside of WISPA until it was in its final form.
What led to the Senate Commerce Committee position paper idea?
Who is asking for this paper?
What are the
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