Any ideas would be great.
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George,
I haven't seen his description but I'm glad to hear he's on the right
track. Do you recall a link to his information?
Thanks,
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George wrote:
Hi Jack,
This is the way Lonnie described his version of mesh a few months back.
George
Jack Unger wrote:
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Unless you expect to handle only very low levels of traffic, avoid
mesh nodes with only one radio. Cho
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/22/canada_uni_wifi_ban/
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can be applied to various transport technologies from fiber to
wireless; though I do provide an example using wireless P2P links.
Applying mesh theory to wireless P2MP or ad-hoc networks would require
special coverage.
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Scriv,
Wouldn't think of leavin' - it's good to be back in touch again.
jack
John Scrivner wrote:
WOW! Boggs is here! And Victoria! and Jack Unger! What happened? I went
to Argentina and you guys all came to WISPA to hang out? I guess I need
to run off to the other side of
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Jeromie,
You raise some good points... and here are some more differenc
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Our next
ooper wrote:
Will plenum rated cable stand up to the heat/moisture of a dryer vent
pipe? Im trying to get a run of cable top to bottom on an 8 story
building and the easiest access is through a common dryer vent that
feeds laundry facilities on all 8 floors.
Thanks,
Chris Cooper
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t is going on with unlicensed WIMAX?
Is there any products released yet or about to be released?
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Does anyone have one 2.4 GHz to 900 MHz up/down converter that they are
willing to part with? I need one to expand the coverage of a 2.4 GHz
spectrum analyzer down to 900 MHz (receive only).
Thanks in advance,
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o do and that
this is not going to fix anything unless we have access to a larger
amount of quality spectrum. So please go now and make this happen,
right now, in the next 10 minutes.
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works without first learning about how wireless technology
really works.
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George wrote:
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I am not a fan of muni wireless.
George
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George
Jack Unger wrote:
Unfortunately, this may be one of the first of many such muni problems
that I've been forcasting for years. Muni wireless can be done
correctly and WISPs (IMHO) should always try (when allowed) to play a
positive role in proper net
to make up for the fact that you do
not have control over the CPE when it comes to proper RF planning you are
doomed to failure. Just my 2 cents.
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try to make up for the fact that you
do
not have control over the CPE when it comes to proper RF planning you are
doomed to failure. Just my 2 cents.
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I am not a fan of muni wireless.
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hroughput-capable mesh vendors.
jack
Matt Liotta wrote:
In recent post I explained that here in Atlanta you can only use a
single 2.4 channel because of the noise floor. How is a multi-band mesh
node going to work?
Maybe there is a reason the big muni projects keep selecting Tropos.
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Jack Unger wrote:
A multi-band mesh node does the backhaul on 5 GHz (sometimes with more
than one 5 GHz radio). This reduces (but certainly doesn't eliminate)
the 2.4 GHz self-interference and other-network-interference level.
You can't use 5 Ghz to go through tre
o increase capacity. This is simply not true based on the
limited number of useable channels. Sad thing is there will be a lot of
taxpayer money wasted to prove this point.
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enough density that there
aren't any trees to begin with. Residential areas generally have lots of
trees and no reason for fiber runs.
900Mhz won't get you much throughput; certainly not enough to offer an
alternative to DSL.
-Matt
Jack Unger wrote:
Then the 5 GHz backhaul ne
Matt Liotta wrote:
Jack Unger wrote:
1. The attenuation between 2.4 GHz nodes is not enough to prevent each
node from hearing multiple other nodes as noise (thus more packet
retransmissions and more reduced throughtput). This requires
understanding link budgets, signal-to-noise ratios, and
t. Of these, six
are ISPs; none of the six appear to be WISPs.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/=members
I would expect that at least a few WISPs would support this effort to
keep the Internet accessible equally by everyone.
Thank you for listening,
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bursts or similar) because
of the weird bursts of RF noise. But that'd have to be one helluva burst
of noise to do what it's doing - affecting every channel across ten
miles at once.
I can go into more detail on any part of the network if you like, though
I think all the likely-relevant detail
ization coordination to minimize interference with each other.
Call me if you would like to talk some more about these points.
jack
Jack Unger wrote:
Lots of possible causes (self-interference, interference from other
networks, too high an oversubscription/traffic level, etc.) but I'
tyme oooppps... time.
j
Jack Unger wrote:
David,
Let me add more details than in my previous post -
The SYMPTOMS of the problem is RF noise and high latency however the
SOURCE of the problem could be either on the wireled side of your
e is 6-700 feet.
I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices.
Any thoughts?
Brian
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s (8 extra
DB for direct beam, like Sky Pilot).
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uth is, the technology already exists. Wether its been
manufacturered on to a board and implemented in a package designed for
outdoor deployment is another story.
I agree; outdoor configuration is necessary. I'll gather info on this at
the show.
jack
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I have to question the "judgement ability" (or the lack of it) of anyone
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Gino,
Is Towerstream
ave recieved
fines or anything of the sort for such behavior but it happens. Do I
encourage this? no, but as Steve Stroh once told me, The FCC generally
turns a blind eye until someone complains.
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1. The wireless network is reliable, and
2. The remote FM audio stream can be converted to a half-duplex stream
of Ethernet packets.
Does anyone know of someone who has done this successfully and, if so,
what equipment was used on both the audio and RF networks?
Thanks in advance,
the US are delivered via fixed broadband wireless. That means you
guys! Woo Hoo!
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I've been waiting for
the final version of Lonnie's war boards to come out.
I just today got the approved set of prints back and will start this
week on my tower project.
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Paul Hendry wrote:
Because I can't find any. Got a good source?
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Paul,
work MP# player + shoutcast would do
it and so could a network
stereo extender.
Jeromie
Jack Unger wrote:
I've been asked if an FM broadcast station can broadcast from a
"remote" (non-studio) location by putting the audio over an existing
license-free wireless network to conne
ed to look for?
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hrough the other to
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replies.
RadioMobile plot of link attached.
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> Scott,
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Oops, my apologies... this email should have gone direct and not to the
list. I'lll tri too bee morf careflull...
Jack Unger wrote:
Patrick,
I'd appreciate all the info you can send me. One of my clients is
considering B28s.
Thanks,
jack
Patrick Leary wrote:
a nice little handheld
Spectrum Analyzer for the price.
http://test1.contenttest.net/Spektrumanalysator_en.shtml#(look
bottom left)
With the extra ram for plotting, it is about $1000 US.
Is it as good piece of hardware for the price?
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Lol.
Yes, you're right, but I believe they RECOMMEND putting two radios at the site...
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put to end-users is (IMHO) a half-fast way to
design a reliable network.
jack
Rick Smith wrote:
Lol.
Yes, you're right, but I believe they RECOMMEND putting two radios at the site...
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urchase another if needed and especially if it
will help meet the buying discount threshold :)
- Cliff
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Cliff,
I don't know of anyone who has used one of these yet so my hat's off to
you - thanks for
of my path is a set of 4 power lines (no transformer). Has anyone had
any experience with this?
Here is my path:
DragonWave master - - - - -1/4 mile / power lines - - - - - 3 miles
DragonWave slave
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enough, I'll submit them to the list for others to recycle during their
5 minutes.
Sorry for writing a novel,
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" 115.2 Kbps continuous throughput... "
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
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Anyone ever see these? Comments.
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cceed (again, like me) :)
If you are, or if you know of such an individual, I'd appreciate it if
you would let me know off-list, on-list, or via the telephone.
Thanks in advance from your humble wireless servant,
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s:
1. Thank you all for your great recommendations.
2. I have enough good candidates to meet the need right now.
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Jack Unger wrote:
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fundame
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not for public access, but rather to create
internal
efficiencies. This one is very cool in terms of all the applications the
network is supporting. It is for the city of Cheyenne, WY. Citywide.
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would be negligible.
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Jack Unger wrote:
John,
Should WISPA consider publishing on our website a list of
certification labs? It seems that our industry needs someone to step
up and take on a leadership role and WISPA seems (to me anyway) to be
the perfect organization to perform this role
of certification labs. We also need to push manufacturers to
certify. Without some pressure from us the certification will just
look like more cost with little to gain to manufacturers. Pressure
from customers would make this more of a requirement than what it
seems to be now. If we all insist on cer
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Patrick,
From my perspective
Matt,
My response to your questions are inline, below.
jack
Matt Liotta wrote:
Jack Unger wrote:
You ask - "Why would we need to push manufacturers when a WISP could
just NOT buy a non-certified product"? Because half of the WISPs out
there don't even realize that c
crime".
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_%281984%29
Up with Big Brother!!!
George Rogato wrote:
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Why would Qwest want ISP's to have to retain th
g for help with problem muni
wireless networks. Has anyone on the list been contacted? Seems like
local WISPs may be best suited to help, but also likely the least
willing to help. I know I am having hard time even getting folks to pay
attention to us in regard to the Atlanta RFP.
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Try Radio Shack
or
http://www.palomar-engineers.com/Ferrite_Beads/ferrite_beads.html
jack
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Anyone has a good and fast source ?
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Only FCC Commissioner Jonathan A
. MASSIVE
Pandora's Box that will keep lawyers busy. Build legal expenses into
your 3650 business models!
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yan Spott wrote:
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ryan
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Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
FCC License # PG-12-25133
Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Tra
make your own.
We do have a cert list at wispa, contact Jack Unger if your a paid wispa
member.
George
D. Ryan Spott wrote:
I will pay $500 over the price of an unlicensed Microtik if I can get one
with the cute little FCC sticker on it.
Did you hear that kids? $500 over the MSRP! I h
ly and a peripheral
wireless
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Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
FCC License # PG-12-25133
Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
True Vendor-N
m.
Do this, I would like to read the next chapter, if they can get
certified though the PC method, I would take a look at their product.
Ryan
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Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
FCC License # PG-12-25133
Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Sinc
ot select something outside of
FCC permission?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: Not Babb
plan to serve, on any WISPA committees while in
office? If yes then what committees?
I will answer my own post with answers shortly. I encourage all board
candidates to answer these questions so people can decide who they
want to represent them in the next year.
John Scrivner
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Jack Unger
e the ability to
set them for non fcc areas. All the need is a MODE that puts the
device into an FCC compatible format.
laters,
marlon
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:00 AM
S
agree with you on this one Jack.
I've got plenty of certified products here that give me the ability
to set them for non fcc areas. All the need is a MODE that puts the
device into an FCC compatible format.
laters,
marlon
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL
mber it. :-p
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
One
hills Wireless
Jack Unger wrote:
One or two people have asked this question also. I asked them to test
and see if their equipment actually did transmit outside the U.S.
band. So far, I've received no confirmation that outside-the-band
transmissions were actually taking place. If you have
er, if the hardware can't do it, why
does the software by the same manufacturer of this FCC certified device have
the option of setting non-FCC?
I've read every message up to this one and don't recall anything that would
change what I said. That's not to say it wasn't
of setting non-FCC?
I've read every message up to this one and don't recall anything that would
change what I said. That's not to say it wasn't said, I just don't remember
it. :-p
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Origin
rrect on the 5150-5250 sub-band. The article that was posted
implied that it was intentional, but I don't remember any quote that
stated the ISP confessed to intentional illegal use. I seem to remember
they are using it outdoors with significantly higher EIRP.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills
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